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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. Ah's

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Speaker 1: everybody doing on a Tuesday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Thanks for making us a part of your afternoon.

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Speaker 1: You're in Western New York. Hopefully you're finally enjoying some

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Speaker 1: of the warmer weather that is more appropriate for what

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Speaker 1: we like to call June in most instances. Ota practices

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Speaker 1: in full swing started yesterday. Media access today and we'll

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Speaker 1: have full coverage for you on what has gone on

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Speaker 1: on the field today, as well as the fact that

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Speaker 1: we hear from all three coordinators today. Two of them.

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Speaker 1: We have already heard from defensive coordinator Bobby Babbage as

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Speaker 1: well as offensive coordinator Joe Brady. We anticipate after practice

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Speaker 1: we will be hearing from new Special Teams coach Chris

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Speaker 1: Taber and hopefully we can bring that to you live

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Speaker 1: here on the show this afternoon. When he sits behind

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Speaker 1: the microphone, smoky sky Steve Canada is burning, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: we're seeing the after effects of it, hazy, hazy sunshine

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Speaker 2: And didn't they did this happened last year too?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it did. Like there was a point when we

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Speaker 1: were out there at practice you could smell a faint

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bizarre. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And it's too remote for them to, I guess, bring

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Speaker 1: choppers in or trucks in to try to put the

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Speaker 1: fires out. They just let it go.

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Speaker 2: Stink's yeah, it stinks for that, but it's all right.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's eighty degrees. I don't really care what's

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Speaker 2: going on. Here's just me. I wore it. I got

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Speaker 2: a Hawaiian.

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Speaker 1: Shoes, got his Hawaiian Bills shirt onto.

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Speaker 2: Bill shirt on today and uh okay, so I forgot

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Speaker 2: wear the Hawaiian bill shirt. And it's picture day.

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Speaker 1: It's staff head shot. Daff Steve goes with the Hawaiian

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Speaker 1: Bill's shirt.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, he just put the accelerator to

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Speaker 1: the floor and said, we're doing it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: So Steve's head shot.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't have found another Bills on his worst h

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Speaker 1: But for at least the next year, that's right. Is

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Speaker 1: gonna have palm trees and sunsets on it along.

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Speaker 2: With the bill lanyard on my credential. It's gonna have

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Speaker 2: a Hawaiian shirt on it. Yeah, that's right. I did it.

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Speaker 1: It's a shame they couldn't let you go full bucket

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Speaker 1: hat with that too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or sunglasses something but uh or maybe just the

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Speaker 1: Oh that would have been good.

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Speaker 2: Been good.

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Speaker 1: Go with the lifeguard look twhirling a whistle around your finger.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I wore the because it was I knew

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Speaker 2: it was gonna be nice today. I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 2: then I was like, god, here, it's like, oh, it's

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Speaker 2: headshot day. Well here we go.

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Speaker 1: More comments on steve shirt today in the office than

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Speaker 1: if he wore a tuxedo. I'm convinced. Yeah, probably.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't a person we passed in the hall today

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Speaker 2: It's great though. I like it. I'm you know, obviously

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Speaker 2: it's bills themed Hawaiian. I don't know, it's palm.

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Speaker 1: Tree, palm trees, Hawaiian flowers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, flowers. So it's nice. It's very comfortable too. It's

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Speaker 1: All of those Hawaiian shirts provide a very roomy fi.

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Speaker 2: This is a little bit of a different kind of material,

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Speaker 2: those kind of synthetic. It's not like just playing cotton

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Speaker 1: Mean, belongs on a hangar. Yeah, yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: It's great though. It's just turned into my favorite shirt.

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Speaker 2: Don't wear it again though, yes, now when you wear

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Speaker 1: Pull it out of the rotation again. As we said,

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Speaker 1: OTA practices today, Josh Allen, as expected, not in attendance

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Speaker 2: Not really that. I mean they're they're in the infancy

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's face it, Joe Brady's got a

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Speaker 2: whole new raft of receivers. Well not all of them knew,

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Speaker 2: not like it was last year, but they've shown some

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Speaker 2: success of spreading the football around. And now he's got

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Speaker 2: to get to know some new guys on the roster

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a blank canvas and you know theoretically,

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Speaker 1: He did say of Joshua Palmer that he is very

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Speaker 1: smart and basically said he called his transition to the

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Speaker 1: Bills offense seamless.

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Speaker 2: That's a big word.

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Speaker 1: I know he's a veteran player, but this is his

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Speaker 1: four years there. First time in a new well maybe

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Speaker 1: been coaching changes in LA as we know, but first

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Speaker 1: Brady called his transition seamless. You know what that translates

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Uh, you know that at least at

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Speaker 2: this point he's earned a great deal of trust, well

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and said he's he's shown already he can play

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Speaker 2: So if if the coaches are liking it, that means

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Speaker 2: he's going to get a chance to get thrown too

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people fans are wondering about

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Speaker 1: and coach Brady said kincaid has lived here this offseason

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Speaker 1: think is music to the ears of fans after hearing

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Speaker 1: both Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean at the end of

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Speaker 1: indication that they felt he needed to get bigger and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's out there running routes and you know,

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Speaker 2: more physicality involved with it. But he's running smooth looks.

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Speaker 2: He looks like himself to me, and we don't get

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Speaker 2: the preseason games on Dalton kincaid. Yeah, people want to

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Speaker 2: was really hampered by injuries last year. Is one thing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tounees in a collar bone. Yeah, so yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, since you started on receivers. I'm just kind

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Speaker 1: of making my way through the comments that Brady made

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Speaker 1: concerning Elijah Moore, Coach Brady said, he has made it

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Speaker 1: clear that it is important to him to understand our offense.

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Speaker 1: He's lined up both inside and outside. And there's another

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Speaker 1: tried to immerse himself because you know, he was a

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Speaker 1: late signing, you know, for all intents and purposes. Sure

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Speaker 2: You got to think about it. How far behind can

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Speaker 2: you know, for him, it probably feels like light years,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably the more interesting comment was about Leaviska Chanault,

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Speaker 1: And Coach Brady put this on himself, It's up to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll say this, the one guy that has

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Speaker 2: None of this is real, but Chanel he looks like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks like a I mean we saw him

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Speaker 2: in the passing game. I'm I'm I've been impressed with him.

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Speaker 1: And then finally, Coleman Brady was asked about and his

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Speaker 1: comment on Keon was the physicality to his game is there,

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Speaker 1: which is something to be said for that since we're

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Speaker 1: Babbage had some interesting things to say about Michael Hoyd.

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Speaker 2: it's I think the level has arisen significantly in that

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Speaker 2: in that department.

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Speaker 1: The reason I'm encouraged by the way Trey looks is because,

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Speaker 1: let's just say, hypothetically, you know that Hairston is his

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Speaker 1: play is a little uneven through training camp in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the coaching staff doesn't feel comfortable with awarding

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Speaker 1: him the starting job at outside corner opposite Benford. With

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Speaker 1: the way White, with the way Trey looks right now,

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Speaker 1: I feel a whole lot more comfortable about him holding

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Speaker 1: the fort until they feel Harston is ready. Then I

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Speaker 1: would have sight unseen. With Trey, knowing his injury history,

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Speaker 1: I'm very encouraged. The way he's moving out there, I

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Speaker 1: guess is the best way to play it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a bunch of scenarios you could go

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Speaker 2: down that, you know, rabbit hole. We don't know how

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Speaker 2: it's going to turn out, but it get Don't let him.

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Speaker 2: Don't throw him out there opening play of the season,

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Speaker 2: you know, against the Baltimore Ravens on opening night. But

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Speaker 2: give him a couple of series in that game, and

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Speaker 2: then a couple of series the next week, and then

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Speaker 2: by you know, the first week of the first month

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Speaker 2: of the season, all the sudd and he's playing a

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Speaker 2: lot and all of a sudden Week five or week

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Speaker 2: four even or whatever, he's he lines up, he's looking

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Speaker 2: the receiver in the eye on opening snap, let's go

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Speaker 2: and he never leaves. That's easy to see. He he's athletic, man. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's athletic and I so it's all what happens between

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Speaker 2: his ears and you know, above his neck. Harston, you're

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Speaker 2: talking to harsh.

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Speaker 1: There was some punting today, and as we know, there

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Speaker 1: will be a punter competition. I know Steve is about

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Speaker 1: to go to sleep right now, but uh, special teams,

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Speaker 1: what are.

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Speaker 2: You talking about?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would I would say based on the punting today.

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Speaker 1: You know, Robin's Robin's had some nice kicks. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see where the competition goes. But that's gonna be something

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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. It's him and Jake Kamarda

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Speaker 1: obviously with two punters on the roster, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: where it goes. But that's gonna be a competition that's

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Speaker 1: gonna probably push deep into training camp, probably the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see if one guy can separate himself from

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Speaker 1: the other.

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Speaker 2: Bill had the fewer percentage of drives ended by punt

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Speaker 2: or turnover than any team in the league.

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Speaker 1: Third lowest in the league, thirty nine percent. I think

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Speaker 1: it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, you need a punter but make sure

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Speaker 2: he can hold for the field goal kicker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go around the NFL presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 1: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and free

487
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Speaker 1: agent wide receiver Gabe Davis reportedly has a free agent

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Speaker 1: visit scheduled with the Pittsburgh Steelers that's supposed to come

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. As we know, the Steelers traded and acquired

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf earlier this offseason, but then shipped out George

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Speaker 1: Pickens to Dallas, so they're looking for some reinforcements at

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Speaker 1: the receiver position. For the quarterback to be determined now,

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph. And they're waiting on one Aaron Rodgers to

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Speaker 1: see if he will in fact arrive or call it

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Speaker 1: a career.

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Speaker 2: He talked about a guy dropping off the radar. Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers might have moved to Mars.

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Speaker 1: Jamee Davis might have two Yeah, still looking for work,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We're in June now.

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Speaker 2: We kind of suspected his beat. Yeah, I mean when

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Speaker 2: he supplied Jacksonville moved on as fast as they did, that's.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sure, But when they signed him last year for

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Speaker 1: thirteen a year, I was like, oh, that is not

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Speaker 1: the value.

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Speaker 2: I had right.

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com did a piece on the twelve non

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl Trophy franchises in the NFL, engaged which of

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Speaker 1: the dozen is most likely to win the Lombardi Trophy

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Speaker 1: this season. Buffalo first on the list. Here is a

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Speaker 1: part of what they wrote in their assessment. Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: is at least as talented as the recent championship quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: He's in his private age twenty nine, ported by a

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Speaker 1: top tier O line, promising skill position weapons, and a

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Speaker 1: creative play caller and Joe Brady. Whether the defense can

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Speaker 1: hold up its end to the bargain is another question.

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Speaker 1: Bills added reinforcements to the defensive line secondary blah blah, blah,

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Speaker 1: blah blah. The challenge will be getting the rookies up

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Speaker 1: to speed as quickly as possible. With Michael Hoyt and

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Speaker 1: Larry Ogunjobi facing six games suspensions and Joey Bosa encountering

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Speaker 1: more health issues, Buffalo's defensive depth could be thin early

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Speaker 1: in the season. Thankfully, the regular season schedule appears manageable

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Speaker 1: even with some tough games, and Buffalo is king of

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Speaker 1: the AFC East Hill until proven otherwise. With a pretty

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Speaker 1: loaded roster. The twenty five Bills have a real opportunity

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Speaker 1: to fulfill their Superbowl dreams.

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Speaker 7: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Steve was getting all hopelessly optimistic out at the practice

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Speaker 1: field today. He's looking at me, going, man, we are loaded.

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Speaker 1: We don't have any open holes here.

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Speaker 7: This is great.

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Speaker 1: We gotta stay healthy. But man, look at this grub

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Speaker 1: all amped up.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to pump the brakes too. I remember

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Speaker 2: back in the day, with all those Hall of Famers

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Speaker 2: back in the nineties, it was always, you know, you

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Speaker 2: go in the league, say, you know, we need to

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Speaker 2: we got to get the number one seed. We got

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Speaker 2: to get the number one seed. And it was never

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Speaker 2: about let's get the playoffs. That's kind of what I'm

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Speaker 2: feeling with this crew. Get the one seed. They've never

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Speaker 2: had it. Get the one seed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one less game you gotta play, and you get

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Speaker 1: to buy and you don't have to worry about injuries

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Speaker 1: and all that suff.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, get the one seed. It's but then

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Speaker 2: I was looking at you and I said that, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, it's June, what.

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Speaker 7: Are you doing.

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Speaker 2: It's just shut up and sit down, just let me

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Speaker 2: just watch practice. But yeah, I mean that the expectations

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Speaker 2: have got to be and I say this too, Expectations

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Speaker 2: is all that, whatever, whatever, whatever, you just feel good

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Speaker 2: about this group. You just feel good. Whatever happens, who

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Speaker 2: knows what's going to happen, but you feel really good

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Speaker 2: about what they're doing and how they're doing it. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's the underlying undercurrent of all of this.

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Speaker 2: They've just made so many moves that made so much

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Speaker 2: sense and seem to be the guys they were able

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Speaker 2: to fill holes with and kept just feel a little

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Speaker 2: bit better than we thought we were going to be

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Speaker 2: able to do. Even right the draft picks seem we're

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Speaker 2: a little more optimistic about the draft picks than we

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Speaker 2: were before the draft. So it's just you know, we're

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Speaker 2: sitting there whe and I'm just like, wow, let's go.

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Speaker 1: You know, but we're not gonna be ahead.

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Speaker 2: We're made a little ahead of ourselves. But still you

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Speaker 2: just can't wait this. It's another year.

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Speaker 1: They're not hoping they're gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: You know they're gonna yes, and it's just another year

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Speaker 2: where man, I don't know all Bill's mafias like that,

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Speaker 2: you just can't wait to watch these guys play you

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Speaker 2: cannot wait to watch them play.

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Speaker 1: The other non Super Bowl winning teams listed right behind

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Speaker 1: the Bills in this NFL dot Com piece were Detroit, Minnesota, Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: and Houston. Got a topic of discussion for you today

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Speaker 1: concerning your Bills squad, and it's this which Bills free

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Speaker 1: agent signing do you think excels the most this season

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Speaker 1: for Buffalo? Aight oh three oh five point fifty one

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Speaker 1: eight of eight, five fifty two, five fifty offense, defense,

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Speaker 1: special teams. We don't care which Bill's free agent signing

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Speaker 1: do you think excels the most in his first season

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Speaker 1: with the Bills? Aight oh three oh five fifty open

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Speaker 1: lines for you there one eight of eight, five fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty. Come up. Second hour of the show. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have Jeffrey chahdah. He's gonna be joining us and

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Speaker 1: uh he's the NFL Media senior writer and reporter and

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Speaker 1: he's got some thoughts on some Bills players. We'll catch

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Speaker 1: up with him in hour number two. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: it's your phone Calls next here on one Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Colida Health's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to one Bill's Live Chris Brown, Steve Tasker Tuesday

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Speaker 1: edition here with OTAs or wrapping up on the practice field,

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Speaker 1: and we hope to have special teams coordinator Chris Taber

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Speaker 1: coming your way as you get a chance to hear

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Speaker 1: from him for the first time this offseason. But we

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Speaker 1: want to get to the phones at eight O three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty one eight eight eighty five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty, where we are asking you which Bill's free

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Speaker 1: agent signing do you think excels the most for Buffalo

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Speaker 1: this fall? Eight O three oh five fifty The number

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Speaker 1: to get on board one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. Leading us off today is Ryan out

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Speaker 1: in California. I A what do you got for us? Ryan?

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Speaker 7: How's it going?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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Speaker 8: A big fan of the show. Thanks, love what you

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Speaker 8: guys do. Be out in Cali. It's hard to get

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Speaker 8: coverage of the Bills. See you guys do such a

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Speaker 8: great job. Thank you for all the work. Be huge fan,

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Speaker 8: love everything. To answer your question, I really believe that

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Speaker 8: Josh Palmer is going to make a big impact. I

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Speaker 8: think he's gonna I just think he has that positive

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Speaker 8: attitude you hear Maddy talk about him, everything you read

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Speaker 8: about him. He's just a positive impact guy in in

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Speaker 8: almost every relationship that he touches. So if he can

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Speaker 8: bring that and somehow raise the raise the tide to

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Speaker 8: make key On even a little better, I think that'll

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Speaker 8: be huge. So in my opinion, I would go with

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Speaker 8: the Josh Palmer and go Bills.

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Speaker 1: All right, very good, thanks Ryan.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, the guy played really well as a

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Speaker 2: third guy on an offense and put up some really

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Speaker 2: good numbers.

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Speaker 1: It was behind Keenan Allen Mike Williams early in his career,

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Speaker 1: so he was kind of the third wheel in that

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Speaker 1: passing rotation pecking order out in LA as a young player.

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Speaker 1: And then Mike Williams left and Keenan Allen left, and

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Speaker 1: I think people were expecting him to take that next jump.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they drafted a first round receiver in

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Speaker 1: Quentin Johnston, and you know they added last year the

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Speaker 1: kid from Georgia, so they retooled the roster at the

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Speaker 1: receiver position. But I think I think people were expecting

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Speaker 1: Palmer to take a next leap. Lad McConkie was the

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Speaker 1: other guy was thinking of take the next leap in

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Speaker 1: his production and it didn't materialize even though he had

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Speaker 1: the most experience with Justin Herberts. So people are like,

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Speaker 1: what's going on there? I think he he may have

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Speaker 1: needed to change of scenery, just like Keenan Allen and

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Speaker 1: Michael uh and Mike Williams. So hopefully that's the case.

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Speaker 1: And you know, by the sounds of Coach Brady today,

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Speaker 1: he has assimilated quite well to this system. As Coach

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Speaker 1: Brady was talking like he knows all the spots already.

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Speaker 2: Right, I think he's got a chance to play a ton.

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Speaker 2: I was telling Brownie Swith, I really like this group

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Speaker 2: of wideouts in this room. They're very versatile, a lot

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Speaker 2: of playmakers, a lot of you know, run after catch

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Speaker 2: guys and abilities in the room, along with some bodies

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Speaker 2: like Keon being a big dude. I'm yeah, it's complete

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Speaker 2: one point eighty from where we were a year ago.

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Speaker 2: With the things that they proved. This off's proved about

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Speaker 2: what it needed to be good last year. You raised

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Speaker 2: the level of the talent out there, which I think

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Speaker 2: they have and the experience, especially for a guy like

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Speaker 2: Keon Man, I the sky's the limit. I'm really excited

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Speaker 2: about his crew.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Butcher on the east Side. What's up?

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Speaker 9: But my brothers from another mother is a pleasure to

659
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Speaker 9: talk to you. I love them ASG.

660
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Speaker 10: I love WG.

661
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Speaker 9: I to the fans who listen and watch Push from

662
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Speaker 9: the east Side, definitely love you. I'm gonna jump right

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Speaker 9: into something. And since you guys just finished speaking on

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Speaker 9: the receiving room, like Steve Just and YouTube Brownie, my

665
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Speaker 9: thing is and I spoke to you guys before regarding

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Speaker 9: offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, loving your craft and actually looking

667
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Speaker 9: at trying to be the best fower's designing, play strategy, etc.

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Speaker 9: Just like you guys said, we have so much talent.

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Speaker 9: Now I just want my coordinators. I'm not saying they're

670
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Speaker 9: not doing it, but just to throw a little extra reason,

671
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Speaker 9: I say that they're young, we're old. A lot of

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Speaker 9: times that you guys know, the young guys sometime they

673
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Speaker 9: look at old guys like we're just old talking. But see,

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna use I'm gonna use Joe Brady first. If

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Speaker 9: Joe Brady is just going to the film room and

676
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Speaker 9: look at a bill washer's scheme, look at a gruten scheme,

677
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Speaker 9: and just take some designs and plays and like you say,

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Speaker 9: added to what he already doing and with that talent,

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Speaker 9: like we say we have, he could be a little

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Speaker 9: bit better. Now I'm gonna look, I'm gonna look. I'ma

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Speaker 9: look at Bobby. Bobby can go look at Bill Belichick's

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Speaker 9: repertoire and at the same time, while he could go

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Speaker 9: look at uh uh uh my guy, my guy ut

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Speaker 9: for the forty six defense, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 9: Chicago with Philadelphia Buddy Ryan, and just look at how

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Speaker 9: he put pressure. Not saying he has to run that defense,

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Speaker 9: but look at some of the schemes and look at

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Speaker 9: the talent with with with Brandon Beanis gave you and

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Speaker 9: take some of those designs and add it to what

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Speaker 9: you're doing and then implement that. See, this is what

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Speaker 9: makes Chip Kelly better than a lot of these other guys.

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Speaker 9: Chip Kelly, even though he's not young and he's not old,

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Speaker 9: he respects the old regime. That he goes back and

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Speaker 9: look at tape from the older guys that added into

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Speaker 9: what he's doing. And this is why I like it. Now,

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Speaker 9: let let you go in this night. Two impact players

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Speaker 9: that I'm gonna say, if I can thank so much

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Speaker 9: for taking my call, is that you guys might disagree,

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Speaker 9: but I'm going to say it, and you guys watch

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Speaker 9: the game, and Brownie you call the game. Dorian Williams

701
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Speaker 9: is going to be the starter, and he's going to

702
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Speaker 9: take over this defense and he's going to go to

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Speaker 9: the Pro Bowl. I'm saying that now. I'm going to

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Speaker 9: say offensively, my MVP, Josh Allen has a taste of

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Speaker 9: being an MVP. He's gonna work smarter, not harder, and

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Speaker 9: at the same time he's going to perfect what he's

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Speaker 9: doing because he's just coming to his own where he's

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Speaker 9: going to maintain that title as being the MVP of

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Speaker 9: the league. Like John like like like Tom Brady was,

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Speaker 9: I love you guys, and thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks, but all right, but yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: we were that's fine that you know, you want to

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Speaker 1: go with those guys. We were asking about free agent

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Speaker 1: signings from this offseason. But that's fine. Like, look, I've

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Speaker 1: said it before, Dorian Williams. I think he had nine

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Speaker 1: starts last year while Milana was out injured. It only

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Speaker 1: started nine games. At the end of the season, he

718
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Speaker 1: was still the team's leading tackler with nine starts. Right,

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Speaker 1: like the guy when he's on the field is enormously productive,

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Speaker 1: So you know, I don't think that's an outlandish statement

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Speaker 1: to make. Maybe he does push Milana a bit, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: because he knows the system backwards and forwards, because this

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Speaker 1: is what year three for him now. So I mean

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Speaker 1: that's when the rubber meets the road for a lot

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Speaker 1: of these players where they really take a leap with

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Speaker 1: the coaching and the development that they get here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, you're right, and I think some

728
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Speaker 2: people are a little bit wary of depending on Matt

729
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Speaker 2: Malan or be injury eighteen weeks because of his injuries

730
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Speaker 2: is starting to make people maybe shrug their shoulders a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the likelihood that he's gonna be there

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Speaker 2: every week. Dorian Williams is standing the right. They're ready

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Speaker 2: to go in when he goes in. I don't I

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Speaker 2: don't think they miss a beat. I mean, he's really good,

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Speaker 2: and he's an he's athletic, and he's fast. So Milano,

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Speaker 2: as we all know, though, is that guy that seems

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Speaker 2: to be in the middle of enormous plays and he

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Speaker 2: does it consistently. You don't want to lose that. But right, yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm all about Dorian Wims. We like him. Brownie has

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Speaker 2: always thought he was a really good player, and we've

741
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Speaker 2: had high hopes for him. But it's a hard spot

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Speaker 2: to get on the field. They're play two guys, and

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Speaker 2: the two guys they play when they're playing really well,

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Speaker 2: you don't want anybody else out there. So it's hard

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Speaker 2: spot for Dorian Williams to get in there. But there's

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Speaker 2: no doubt most of us have the confidence that he's

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Speaker 2: gonna have to see the field at some point, even

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Speaker 2: if it's just because of an injury.

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Speaker 1: So Tom on the west side, next, what's up?

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Speaker 10: Tom?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I gotta agree with Ryan from California, Steve

752
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Speaker 7: and Butch that it's gonna be the wide receiver room

753
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Speaker 7: because Palmer and Ryan should know this because he's from California.

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Speaker 7: He probably doesn't see the Bills a lot, but he

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Speaker 7: saw the Chargers a lot, so he knows what Palmer

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Speaker 7: can do. Okay, now you got more. You brought more in.

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Speaker 7: I think he's gonna be a close number two. And

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Speaker 7: I think, well, this guy Chanel is going to be

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Speaker 7: a surprise, but I think you're gonna mostly see him

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Speaker 7: on special teams now because of that I got a

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Speaker 7: ladder role and I got to go to defense, and

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna say it's gonna be hype because even though

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Speaker 7: I want to say Bosa, I'm afraid he's injury prone.

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Speaker 7: And I always complain about the Bills bringing in guys

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Speaker 7: that are injury prone and we don't get a full

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Speaker 7: season out of them, and we're not gonna get a

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Speaker 7: full season out of Height. But I think one Tyke

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Speaker 7: comes back from the suspension, we're gonna get that rest

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Speaker 7: of the season out of them.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, guys, Okay, yeah, Yeah, that's a good pick

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Speaker 1: on the defensive side. And Hoyt, I mean we heard

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Speaker 1: Babbage talking about it today like they had had their

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Speaker 1: eye on him for multiple off seasons and we're just

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Speaker 1: hoping he wouldn't get signed to an extension out there

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Speaker 1: in LA and that proved to be the case and

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Speaker 1: they were able to nab him in free agency. And

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Speaker 1: you know, as for the offensive side, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing that struck me because Brandon Bean in

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Speaker 1: a press conference after the signing of Joshua Palmer, he said,

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Speaker 1: if you watch his tape, because some people are asking

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Speaker 1: the same thing. I was just talking about a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes ago, after Mike Williams left and after Keenan

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Speaker 1: Allen left, why did Palmer's production not take off?

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Speaker 2: Well, he was.

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Speaker 1: Running a lot of the downfield, low percentage completion routes.

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Speaker 1: And I respect Bean because he looks at the film

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Speaker 1: differently than most people. He doesn't look at a statuet

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Speaker 1: and say, josh Allen, fifty six percent completion percentage in college,

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Speaker 1: He's never going to get better than that at the

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Speaker 1: pro level, where it's even harder. He watched the film

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Speaker 1: and said, the guy's trying to make some unbelievable plays

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Speaker 1: with a roster that didn't have enough talent to support him,

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Speaker 1: and that was part and parcel why his numbers were that.

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Speaker 1: What he said about Palmer was he's running a lot

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Speaker 1: of deep, low percentage completion routes, and there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of times where he's running open and nobody's throwing.

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Speaker 2: Them the ball, right, because he's the third option here.

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Speaker 1: Being clearly believes he will be seen more utilized, more

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Speaker 1: thrown to more, and thus more productive.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I'm with Tom. I mean, you look at

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Speaker 2: yet Joshua Palmer, Elijah Moore, Khalil Shakir Laviiskus Chanel and

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Speaker 2: Keon Coleman's five pretty good guys. It really is.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even say Curtis Samuel.

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Speaker 2: And Curtis Samuel is in there. Who is an really

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Speaker 2: elite playmaker. They got speed, they got some size, they've

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Speaker 2: got production. They go as deep. If the team's going

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Speaker 2: to play man to man when he got that group

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Speaker 2: on the field, they've got to go pretty deep to

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Speaker 2: man up and feel good about being covered up at

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Speaker 2: the bottom of that rotation. It's really exciting to think

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Speaker 2: about and hot. I think the biggest question about him

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Speaker 2: is where they going to play.

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Speaker 1: It house in a lot of places.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be a movable chess piece.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, forty six monster, forty six monster,

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Speaker 2: let's go you know, you know, high school and they

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Speaker 2: just put just you know, got a monster back and

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Speaker 2: he goes plays around wherever he wants.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to take a break here, but more

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Speaker 1: of your phone calls when we come back. Yeah, Ianna

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Speaker 1: Cell will lead us off along with others holding an

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Speaker 1: ego three oh five fifty here on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 5: Stay with us.

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Speaker 1: All right back here. I want to Bill's Live Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you Question of the day for you

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Speaker 1: to discuss which bills free agent signing do you think

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Speaker 1: excels the most this fall?

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Speaker 2: I know we got callers is what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Voice of the Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I'm optimistic about Elijah Moore. I'm not. I haven't decided

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Speaker 1: why yet, but I feel like he's going to be

833
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: a bigger element of the offense than we're anticipating. A

834
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: little late to the party. Does a lot of the

835
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Speaker 1: same things that Khalil Shakir does. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it is. I just it's like a gut feeling. I

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Speaker 1: have no value or evidence to suggest that that's going

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Speaker 1: to happen, But just knowing what his skill set is,

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Speaker 1: knowing how productive he's been with two lousy organizations, I've

840
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Speaker 1: surmised that's the thing. He could be pretty productive.

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Speaker 2: You look at the two guys we've been talking about,

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Speaker 2: Josh Palmer and Elijah Moore. They did it with less.

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Speaker 2: You know, Palmer was with Chargers Chargers and Justin Herbert

844
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Speaker 2: good quarterback, but he was third, like he's way down

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Speaker 2: the list, right, Yeah, And Elijah Moore did it with

846
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: you know, he was making chicken salad with his quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I would have picked Michael Hoyt, But knowing he's missing

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Speaker 1: six games, Yeah, you think that's going to impact how

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Speaker 1: much impact he'll have. I still think he's going to

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Speaker 1: be a good addition, but it's compromised a bit.

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Speaker 2: I just that's a tough call. If you're talking about

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Speaker 2: the wide receivers between those two guys, now channel could

853
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Speaker 2: be a difference maker two, all three of those guys,

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Speaker 2: I think, as much as we all loved Mac Hollins,

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Speaker 2: all three of these guys have a better pedigree than

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Speaker 2: he does. Well as a receiver. I'm talking about I

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Speaker 2: would say as a receivery coming in. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones, and as promised, we

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Speaker 1: lead off with Gary on a cell. What's up? Gary?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, they all doing good, doing good.

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Speaker 11: I got two players. One's personal, you know one. I

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Speaker 11: think Michael is going to be the best. I know

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Speaker 11: he's in the missing games, but I still think the

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Speaker 11: way the Germ was going to use him, yeah, is

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Speaker 11: the reason to make it exciting. But the one that's

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00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 11: kind of close to my heart is h Trey White.

867
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 11: I live like ninety miles where he's from, so you know,

868
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 11: he anybody that plays for LSU then goes to Buffalo.

869
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 11: I watched quite a bit him and Kyle, I know,

870
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 11: watching the whole career. So yeah, I'm really rooty for

871
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 11: trade to get healthy. You know, played, you know up

872
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 11: to closely, you played when he was with us before.

873
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 11: I'm excited about that. I kind of felt they were

874
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 11: going to sign him.

875
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 4: I really did.

876
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he said it. It was it was touching

877
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: to hear him say talk about it. And when we

878
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: had him here on the show in his media think

879
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: he said, if he told his age, he said, if

880
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: you didn't cut Buffalo on the phone, don't even talk,

881
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: I don't even care, you know, Like, he didn't want

882
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: to play unless it was back here. It was just

883
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: it was cool having him come back, and it was

884
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: great having him here the first time, right, he was

885
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: part of the family. He was playing goalie for goodness sake,

886
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: remember I mean the hockey goalie, his goalie academy. Come on,

887
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: it was awesome. So it's it's nice to have you know. Yeah,

888
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what for better black of a

889
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 2: better way to analogize. It's like having your college kid

890
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: back for the summer, you know, yeah, you know what

891
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: I mean a little bit, your kids back into town.

892
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: And as we told you at the top of the show,

893
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: he's he's moving really well, like better than I anticipated.

894
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: Off the two major injuries, you know, that are a

895
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: part of his career, because now he's more than a

896
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: year removed from the last one, and that's when guys

897
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: can kind of get back closer to where they were,

898
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: and hopefully that's the trajectory for him and there are

899
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: no more setbacks. That's the hope, because you certainly know

900
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: the guy has put the work in to get back

901
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: to where he was and if he can show even

902
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: a shred of that, that, to me, that's a victory

903
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: for the Bills in him. Quite frankly, let's get back

904
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: to the phones into Bob and Corfu. What do you

905
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: got for his job?

906
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: Hey?

907
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: Do it?

908
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 7: Guy?

909
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 10: That's cow Yeah? Remember me?

910
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 8: Okay?

911
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 10: Anyway, yeah, you know I agree. Uh, this this team

912
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 10: has so many people want to come back here, are

913
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 10: begging to come back here, have said I'm not going

914
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 10: anywhere but Buffalo, right, That's what Seawan and Brandon have

915
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 10: started here, and it's just such a pleasure and a

916
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 10: blessing to watch, right, But uh, I think Bosa is

917
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 10: going to make a huge difference. Truthfully, I think last year,

918
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 10: just a little bit more on defense, we could have

919
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 10: won those few games we lost. But the biggest thing

920
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 10: that this team needs actually this town, is a little

921
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 10: bit of luck.

922
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: Right.

923
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 10: Even if you go back to the nineties the Super Bowls, right,

924
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 10: I was at the third one, Like I told you,

925
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 10: you know, nine turnovers ain't gonna make a difference a

926
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 10: little bit of luck. But since we've had Josh. You

927
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 10: think about it, man, two times a little bit of

928
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 10: luck went our way instead of the other way. You know,

929
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 10: we could be going to two super Bowls already. So

930
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 10: my big thing is luck. I think Bose is gonna

931
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 10: make a big difference. And when we get our other

932
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 10: two guys back, I really think our defense is gonna shine. Guys,

933
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 10: I told you we're gonna be playing game eleven. Our

934
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 10: eleventh game this year is gonna be at Hallmark. Josh

935
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 10: is gonna win it. We're gonna go to the super

936
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 10: Bowl Market Town. What a Hallmark. That's gonna be too. Right,

937
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 10: ten years later, when you look at this season and

938
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 10: he wins the last game ever in that stadium to

939
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 10: go to the super Bowl and then we go win it. Amen.

940
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 10: So like a good, very intelligent man once said, I'm

941
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 10: gonna quote him, do good be good, God bless gold Bills.

942
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 2: Thanks Bob, Yeah good, not do good, be good?

943
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: He said he's working on it.

944
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: Uh.

945
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: If you do go back, Steve, and I know we're

946
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: up against the break here. If you do go back

947
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: and look at the defeats that the Bills have sustained

948
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you'd be very hard pressed to say

949
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: in any one of those games that the Bills put

950
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure and duress on the opposing quarterback.

951
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: It seems as if quarterbacks have had their way with

952
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo's defense because there is not any atmosphere of consistent

953
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: pressure in which to hurry the decision making of said quarterback.

954
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: And I think it has made life for the Buffalo

955
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: defense more difficult than it needs to be. So if

956
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: Bosa can provide that in any capacity, particularly once we

957
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: reach the postseason, that will pay big, big dividends because

958
00:49:59,160 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: it's been.

959
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: Sorely that's right, let's face it. That's the frustrating part

960
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: about this last handful of years with Josh and McDermott

961
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 2: and Bean and all these guys. The one unlucky bounce

962
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: or one unlucky play, or one call or one thing

963
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: happening that would have made the difference. It's nice to

964
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 2: be in that spot, but it's also nice to have

965
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: it bounce your way once in a while.

966
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: Break time for us here. Our number two is going

967
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: to begin with NFL Media Senior writer and reporter Jeffrey Shadeah.

968
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: He's going to join us and discuss some young players

969
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: who could propel their teams even further in twenty twenty five.

970
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: He's got some bills on that list. We'll talk about

971
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: who next here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

972
00:50:43,320 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. This One Bill's Live presented by

973
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: Calllida Health. All right now, number two on a Tuesday.

974
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Thanks for joining us

975
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live. We're also going to be

976
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: joined now by NFL Media Senior writer and reporter Jeffrey

977
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: Judea as he's had a boatload of content that he's

978
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: just churning out on NFL dot Com, and a lot

979
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: of it includes Buffalo Bills players so we wanted to

980
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: get Jeffrey on to kind of work our way through

981
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. And one of the pieces, Jeffrey,

982
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: you mentioned Dalton Kincaid as a young NFL player whose

983
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: development is going to be critical to kind of propel

984
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: the Bills here in twenty twenty five, hopefully over the

985
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: hump to kind of get to the promised land. That's

986
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: the hump they're trying to get over. We know other

987
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: teams have maybe smaller and less loftier goals. And there

988
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: is a history here too, Jeffrey, of players in year

989
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: three really taking off. You know, Spencer Brown's an example,

990
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: Tarren Johnson that there's a long list of players here

991
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: who have really hit those marks in year three. Tell

992
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: us why you feel Dalton Kincaid is ripe for that.

993
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 12: Well, one, he's a really good player, and after his

994
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 12: first year I was excited to see what happened with

995
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 12: him in the year two. And as you guys know,

996
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 12: injuries played a key role in that with the collar

997
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 12: bone and the knee injury that affected him well into

998
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 12: the playoffs. But you know, to go for where he

999
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 12: was as a ricky when he had seventy three catches

1000
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 12: down to forty four catches. I think he's ready for

1001
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 12: a bounce back, and I love the opportunity he has

1002
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 12: within this offense, playing with a quarterback who is as

1003
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 12: improvisational as Josh Allen is, with so many other weapons.

1004
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 12: You know, a guy who can move, a big tight

1005
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 12: end who can move around and play in different spots.

1006
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 12: I felt as if he had caught that pass an

1007
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 12: ancy Championship game, they had a pretty good chance of

1008
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 12: winning that game. It didn't happen for him, So there's

1009
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 12: motivation there. But I think ultimately, as you said, third year,

1010
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 12: he's coming back from injury, he has talent. I think

1011
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 12: big things lie ahead for Dalton Kincaid.

1012
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts about the tight end role in

1013
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: an offense like this when we had never really seen

1014
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 2: it here in Buffalo where I'm finger quoting this everybody

1015
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: eats thing right where we didn't know any of these guys.

1016
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir was an unknown commodity. Keon was a rookie,

1017
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: you know, and you know mac Hollins was just a

1018
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: guy for like eight years of his career, right, So

1019
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: we didn't know how effective this could be. Now, obviously

1020
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: the philosophy has been proven to be good, especially when

1021
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 2: he got Josh throwing it. What are your thoughts about

1022
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: the tight end role in that and what would that

1023
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: look like if you know what kind of numbers are

1024
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: we talking about, what's it going to look like to

1025
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: the naked eye. If a guy like Kinkaid does have

1026
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: a breakout year.

1027
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 12: Oh, I could easily see him being a thousand yard

1028
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 12: receiver and getting back to the reception number he had

1029
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 12: as a rookie in.

1030
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 4: The seventies, maybe the eighties.

1031
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 12: You know, I live in Kansas City and I've seen

1032
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 12: I'm not trying to say he's going to be the

1033
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 12: next Travis Kelcey, but I've seen how Travis Kelsey has

1034
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 12: operated with a quarterback who works in the same fashion

1035
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 12: as Josh Allen does, which is he can spread the

1036
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 12: field deep, he can get out of the pocket and

1037
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 12: make plays. When you have a guy who can operate

1038
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 12: in the middle field like that like Kelsey does, it's

1039
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 12: hell on the defense. And so yeah, those guys who

1040
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 12: just mentioned that, the Khalil Shakurs, you know, I think

1041
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 12: Josh Palmer could have a big year in this offense.

1042
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 12: I think Kean Coleman can show up big in his

1043
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 12: second year. All these guys benefit from a quarterback who

1044
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 12: can move around the running backs as well. And so

1045
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 12: for me, that's why I like his potential within his

1046
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 12: offense because he's athletic, you know, kN Ka can move around.

1047
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 12: You can put him in different spots, you get him

1048
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 12: isolated online backers, in safeties. It's an advantage for him

1049
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 12: and Josh Allen will find you.

1050
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: And so for me.

1051
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 12: If you've got all those advantages going in your favor

1052
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 12: and you're motivated, you know.

1053
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 4: Again, I think that bodes well for Dalton Kincaid.

1054
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: Another young player on this roster was part of a

1055
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: youth movement on the defensive side of the ball, Max Harriston,

1056
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: their top pick, who we were just watching on the

1057
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: practice field today, and I got to tell you, Jeffrey

1058
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: might have the smoothest hip flip I've seen in a

1059
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: long time. He is really a fluid mover out there,

1060
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: and we all know he's you know, fast as a hiccup.

1061
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: But I think people in an ideal world, no, he's

1062
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: got to nail down that starting outside job opposite Benford

1063
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: if this team is going to realize the ultimate prize

1064
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: as well. And I know you kind of covered that.

1065
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: On a list of you know rookies that got to

1066
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: show up in year one, He's on that list.

1067
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 4: Oh, no doubt, no doubt.

1068
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 12: I know he was one of the later picks in

1069
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 12: the first round, but just again, the opportunity to make

1070
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 12: an impact is huge for him. You know, going back

1071
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 12: to the AFC Championship game, I thought of Christian Benford

1072
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 12: had not gone out with concussion, the Bills probably win

1073
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 12: that game because you don't see Zavi your Worthy going crazy,

1074
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 12: you don't see some of those big plays down the field.

1075
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 12: But to have a number two guy who has that

1076
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 12: speed which they've missed in this secondary, which has that

1077
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 12: big playability, that lockdown ability. If you have two guys

1078
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 12: in your secondary like that, it makes like a lot

1079
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 12: easier for everybody. And so yeah, I think, yeah, I know,

1080
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 12: Tradevius White and Dan Jacksher in the mix there in

1081
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 12: that competition, but this is the guy who needs to

1082
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 12: make it happen. And I still feel like when Tradevius

1083
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 12: White went down a couple of years ago, that was

1084
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 12: a huge underrated blow to this team's hopes of winning

1085
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 12: a championship. So if Harstick can be that guy, it's

1086
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 12: a win for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Can you equate that? I mean, I know that. You know,

1088
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 2: whenever you have a top pick and everybody does and

1089
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: they got that guy. Some of them are very high

1090
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: at the top of the draft. Sometimes Pete teams trade

1091
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 2: out of the first round. But the first guy you

1092
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 2: get to pick in the draft always has expectations attached

1093
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 2: to him. Other than guys like Maxwell Harris Harrison, give

1094
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: us an idea around the league if some guys you

1095
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: think for the team, they the teams really need this

1096
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 2: guy to be good. Certainly, the Bills are deep and

1097
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: they're talented. Harrison can really help them, but they're gonna

1098
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: be good with or without any one player they have

1099
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: outside the MVP. Give us an idea of some other

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00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: teams who really need a guy to come through.

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00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 12: Well, I look at the team that the Bills beat

1102
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 12: in the playoffs, the Denver Broncos and RJ. Harvey, for example.

1103
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 12: They're running back in the second round. It could be

1104
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 12: huge for them. They lost Yvonte Williams and need a

1105
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 12: run game to help out Bo Nicks in that offense

1106
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 12: and that great defense. So he's certainly gonna have some

1107
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 12: high expectations. Trey Harris a wide receiver went in the

1108
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 12: second round to the Chargers. Is in that boat as well.

1109
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 12: They needed to help with receiver, didn't get it a

1110
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 12: lot in free agency. Just went out and got Mike

1111
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 12: Williams and didn't use a first round pick on a receiver.

1112
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 4: So he's going to be essential to what they do.

1113
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 13: You know.

1114
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Speaker 12: I think those are two players that come to mind now.

1115
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 12: Travis Hunter, I think is in that bowl a little

1116
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 12: bit as well, because Jacksonville may feel as if his

1117
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 12: impact on both sides of the football can help them

1118
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 12: rise up in a weak AFC South. So those are

1119
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 12: names that come to mind immediately for me. There's a

1120
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 12: lot of opportunity out there for rookies to make a difference.

1121
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 12: And I'll even throw Matthew Golden in for the Packers,

1122
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 12: who was their first pick in twenty some years. That's

1123
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 12: a lot of pressure on a guy, but again they

1124
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 12: need help.

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Speaker 1: For Jordan Love, I know that one of your colleagues,

1126
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: Eric Attholme, had the Bills at the top of his

1127
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: list among non Lombardi Trophy holding teams as the most

1128
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: likely to finally hoist that thing. You had the Bills

1129
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: on a list of contenders to de throne the Eagles

1130
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: as Super Bowl champs number two on your list, behind

1131
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, which is a different list entirely, So hopefully

1132
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: I made that clear to our listeners. You still have

1133
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs as top contenders. Is that largely because they've

1134
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: been there and know what it takes to get there.

1135
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm just curious what's your delineation between the Chiefs and

1136
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: the Bills at this point as these two rosters stand

1137
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: currently constituted.

1138
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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's the only reason that the Chiefs have been

1139
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 12: there before and they've got the rings. But again, as

1140
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 12: a Kansas City resident, I can tell you that's a

1141
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 12: lot of people in this town who who fear the

1142
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 12: Bills more than any other team out there in the league,

1143
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 12: probably because they know how close they've been.

1144
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: They know what Josh Allen can do.

1145
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 12: He's really, for my money, the only quarterback in the

1146
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 12: league who's on the same level as Patrick Mahomes in

1147
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 12: terms of throwing the football and running in and doing

1148
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 12: the things. And Mark Jackson is great, but I think

1149
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 12: he is. I think Patrick and Josher are tied one

1150
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 12: A one B in terms of overall talent, and so

1151
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 12: when you have those factors, I think people feel like

1152
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 12: the Bills are super close and probably should have won

1153
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 12: a couple of these games. To be honest with you,

1154
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 12: you know, I think that's the sense you get in.

1155
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 12: I know people in Kansas City can't stand the Bengals,

1156
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 12: but they have a lot of respect for the Bills

1157
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 12: and a lot of fear of the Bills. And if

1158
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 12: not for a couple of things in the last couple

1159
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 12: of years, that thirteen second game back in twenty one,

1160
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,959
Speaker 12: it could be the Bill sitting here talking about having

1161
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 12: been the champions of the AFC for the last couple

1162
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 12: of years. So yeah, I think that they're really tight,

1163
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 12: and I do kind of feel as if the Bills

1164
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 12: probably have a better chance of winning this year just

1165
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 12: because the Chiefs have come down and run.

1166
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: We always have the story coming out as well, when

1167
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: as the teams get into like week fourteen to fifteen

1168
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: in the regular season, that there's always or they're always

1169
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: I mean four new teams in the playoff kind of pool,

1170
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: there's always four teams that fallout. Four teams are give us.

1171
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: Do you have any fast rising teams or maybe unexpected

1172
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: drops in teams. I mean, certainly there's a couple of

1173
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: likely candidates out there. But you know, we're we're hoping

1174
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: the Bills aren't one of those teams that fall out

1175
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: of the playoff scene, right So, you know, what are

1176
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: some of the teams you think maybe are have run

1177
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: their course and are going to drop back to the

1178
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: cap pack and maybe some unexpected teams get into the mix.

1179
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 12: Well, the Steelers have got to be high on a

1180
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 12: list like that, just because they don't have a quarterback

1181
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 12: right now. The quarterback they're courting, you don't know what

1182
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 12: kind of problems he's going to create for them. If

1183
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 12: he's going to be able to play at a high level,

1184
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 12: he's going to be a headache. And so that they've

1185
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 12: been able to ride the Mike Tomlin never have a

1186
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 12: losing season, trained for a long time, but I think

1187
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 12: this is the end of that run. I think it's

1188
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 12: gonna be hard for them to compete in the AFC.

1189
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 12: The Houston Texans a our team. I think it's take

1190
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 12: a step back just because new offensive coordinator, new offensive line.

1191
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 12: That's never an easy transition. And you saw some of

1192
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 12: the problems they went through last year protecting CJ. Stroud,

1193
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 12: So that was one that was hard to watch as

1194
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 12: far as he was coming up.

1195
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 4: I'm big on the Bears.

1196
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 12: I think that with Ben Johnson coming in there from Detroit,

1197
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 12: run that offense and maybe help Caleb Williams out. The

1198
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 12: moves they made in the offseason rebuilding their offensive line

1199
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 12: going out and getting Colson Loveland and Luther Burden in

1200
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 12: the draft, that makes a big difference for them. You know,

1201
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 12: it's not crazy to think Atlanta, by the way, could

1202
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 12: be in that mix too, because they're playing in a

1203
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 12: division and that's not that strong in the NFC South.

1204
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 12: Michael Pennick stepping in for Kirk Cousins that Kirk Cousins

1205
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 12: had not been turnover crazy at the end of last season,

1206
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 12: they probably would have won that division easily. So I

1207
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 12: think if Pennis can take advantage of the weapons around

1208
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 12: him and not throw interceptions, they're probably a playoff team.

1209
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: Last one I've got for you, Jeffrey, concerns. You know,

1210
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: teams that have gone through coordinator changes. We saw the

1211
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: Bills experience this, you know, losing Brian Dable to a

1212
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: head coaching job in parting ways with Leslie Fraser, and

1213
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: there was some bumps in the road there. They were

1214
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: still able to be a playoff football team, but it

1215
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: was difficult. The transition was not easy. In the next year,

1216
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: the Eagles crawled into the playoffs after losing both of

1217
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: their coordinators to head coaching jobs. Now the Lions are

1218
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: undergoing it this year. What do you feel, you know,

1219
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: the future holds for them in this particular season and

1220
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: from what I understand is not an easy schedule and

1221
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: playing in a better division than they were when they

1222
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: first emerged as a playoff team.

1223
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 12: That division is a killer division because every team has

1224
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 12: got a right to think they can win it and

1225
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 12: make a deep playoff run. Every team's got a really

1226
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 12: good quarterback or a quarterback they hope can be really good.

1227
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 12: But you're right, Detroit, losing Ben Johnson and losing Aaron

1228
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 12: Glennell's are huge losses. The thing I will say about

1229
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 12: Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes the general manager, that I

1230
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 12: think has proven to be pretty accurate, is that when

1231
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 12: they started building that team and I saw them in

1232
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 12: year one, what was most impressive about them was the

1233
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 12: coaches that they picked. And not just the guys that

1234
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 12: I just mentioned, but some of the guys like Mark

1235
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 12: Brunell coaching the quarterbacks, and you know, some of the

1236
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 12: guys who were coaching. Douce Staley was on that staff,

1237
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 12: and Antoine Randall l was coaching receivers. A lot of

1238
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 12: guys who were ex players who had great respect around

1239
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 12: the league, and people forget that Ben Johnson was not

1240
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 12: the offensive coordinator when he started there. They got rid

1241
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 12: of Stately and they promoted him, and so I feel

1242
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 12: like Dan Campbell's got a pretty good eye for coaching

1243
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 12: talent and they've got a pretty good culture there in

1244
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 12: terms of the talent they have and the expectation of

1245
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 12: how they play.

1246
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 4: They may not be.

1247
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 12: A fifteen win team this season because of those losses,

1248
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 12: which are substantial, but I do think there's still a

1249
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 12: playoff team and probably the best of me in the

1250
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 12: NFC North, because of how Dan Campbell coaches and.

1251
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 4: The way he emboldens the people around him.

1252
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 12: So I don't think it's gonna be a train wreck

1253
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,919
Speaker 12: like what you saw in Philadelphia, but it's certainly gonna

1254
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 12: be harder for them to just dominate and be the

1255
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 12: top team in the NFC.

1256
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: Again, Jeffrey, good stuff, Thanks for spending some time with us.

1257
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: Really appreciate you.

1258
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 4: No problem, guys, Thank you all.

1259
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: Right, that's NFL Media senior writer and reporter Jeffrey Chidia

1260
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: helping us out with some of the content he's been

1261
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: churning out on NFL dot Com. So much for an

1262
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: offseason for him, but hopefully it gets a little bit

1263
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: of a break before training camps fire up, and just

1264
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: over a month and a half here at this point,

1265
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: it's yeah, I said it last week. We're gonna blink

1266
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: and you and I are gonna be staring at each

1267
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: other at Saint John Fisher.

1268
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: University out there in the.

1269
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: Ism, sitting there going how did we get here?

1270
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1271
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: I thought I thought the weather just turned, you know

1272
01:04:58,760 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1273
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 2: Perhaps it will happen by then.

1274
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: Well right, yeah.

1275
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that it is. Yeah, the league's year round. You

1276
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 2: and I are testament to that. We're here every day

1277
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: talking about it, and we've got something. It seems you

1278
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: and I don't have a problem coming up with stuff

1279
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: to talk about. Yeah, when the league and the and

1280
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 2: the bills and the divisions and everything.

1281
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask him that question because we've seen

1282
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: teams handle it with different ranges of success. Losing both

1283
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: of your top coordinators and this is what and it

1284
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: happens time and time and time again, and it will

1285
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: continue to happen because the very successful teams are often

1286
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: mined for their coaching talent, and you know, they're plucked

1287
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: away from those teams and promoted to head coaching roles.

1288
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: We saw it here with Brian Dabele. They parted ways

1289
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: with Leslie Frasier, you know, who ended up landing in Seattle.

1290
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: But then, you know, after the Eagles had a really

1291
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,959
Speaker 1: strong playoff run, go all the way to the Super

1292
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: Bowl and lose, they lose their two coordinators, you know,

1293
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon and Shane Steichen, get head coaching jobs in

1294
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: Indianapolis and Arizona, and the next year they struggle mightily,

1295
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: barely make the playoffs and get knocked out in the

1296
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: first round. They then subsequently recover Jettison the two coordinators

1297
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: they use to replace him, get Vic Fangio and who

1298
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: is there oc I'm not even gonna remember now, and

1299
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: go all the way to the Super Bowl, right, So

1300
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: the Lions are doing that now. No Ben Johnson, no

1301
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn. Both guys promoted to head coaches elsewhere, and

1302
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: they got to pick up the pieces and play in

1303
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: a division that's tougher than it was two years ago.

1304
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 2: It really changes a lot now. It changes a lot

1305
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: for a player to come in and get everything installed

1306
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: by a different guy. You know, the guy on the

1307
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 2: sidelines is different. Everything, there's a lot different. It does

1308
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: change some things, and that is putting a lot of

1309
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: pressure on Dan Campbell now. Certainly, like you know, Jeffrey said,

1310
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 2: Campbell seems to have an eye for that. He can

1311
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 2: pick horses. So we'll see what these coordinators that they

1312
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 2: brought in can do. But the lines are still going

1313
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: to be very good. Well, just like the Bills were.

1314
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: The Bills barely took a step back.

1315
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: They were still a playoff team.

1316
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 2: They had that. They had that six and six run

1317
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: in the first twelve games of twenty twenty three. Made

1318
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: the coordinator switch.

1319
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been and McDermott was calling plays, had his

1320
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: hands full.

1321
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: It's been the lights it's been the lights out ever since. Yeah,

1322
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,479
Speaker 2: that seemed you know, we were think about it, how

1323
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: close they were at all of that. I mean, they were,

1324
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: they were winning games, they got it, they got hot

1325
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: at the right time of the playoffs, they were going

1326
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: back and all of that stuff happens and that you

1327
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 2: look back on it now, what a transition period that

1328
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: was they were like, man, we got you know, it

1329
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: did not seem as solidified and as cont you know,

1330
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 2: with continuity like it does now. Now it seems like, man,

1331
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: you can carve this in stone.

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01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: Well because your coordinators are the same on offense and

1333
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: defense for the first time in four years.

1334
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 2: And your head coach isn't you know, trying to wear

1335
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: two hats. Your quarterbacks coming back. You got your off

1336
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: everything is you know, even your roster doesn't see and

1337
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 2: this roster as much turnovers there is in the wide

1338
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 2: receiver room. You feel better about it than you did

1339
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: last year when we went to the NFC Championship game

1340
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 2: and we're like one fourth down spot away from getting

1341
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 2: there to the Super Bowl.

1342
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: The one coordinator who is new is Chris Tabor, special

1343
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 1: teams coordinator for the Bills, the first coordinator for Buffalo

1344
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: with special teams coaching experience at the NFL level since

1345
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen on this staff. He addressed the media after

1346
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: practice today. Let's hear what his comments were right now.

1347
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,759
Speaker 14: Coach Taber, First of all, how have things been getting

1348
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 14: used to being in Buffalo coordinator of a new team.

1349
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: I love it.

1350
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 13: It's been great. People have been unbelievable here. The culture

1351
01:08:55,360 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 13: within our building is second to none. The players have

1352
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 13: been really responsive to what we're trying to teach in

1353
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 13: those things, So it's been a lot of fun. Focus Ben,

1354
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 13: is it letting them get to know you and you get.

1355
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 4: To know them?

1356
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 13: What is your focus Ben here at Otus? I think

1357
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 13: it's a two way street. I think it's both of us.

1358
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 13: You know, we're trying to implement some scheme along with

1359
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 13: fundamentals of how we build things. But at the same time,

1360
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 13: I'm trying to learn them what makes them tick, and

1361
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 13: I think they're also learning my teaching style. So it's

1362
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 13: a work in progress, but it's it's been fun.

1363
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 2: When it comes to the.

1364
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 14: New rules on kickoff, how are you in a different

1365
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 14: vantage point last season be able to take that in

1366
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 14: and kind of set up how you wanted to play

1367
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 14: out here.

1368
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, having a year off, really I was able to

1369
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 13: step back and just kind of reflect and kind of

1370
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 13: watch how the game was being played in that area,

1371
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 13: in the kickoff and kickoff return area, and then being

1372
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 13: able to now really study it even more or you know,

1373
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 13: you go away with some of your ideas when you're

1374
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 13: when you're sitting out, but it's different than when you

1375
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,799
Speaker 13: get on the field that maybe you thought that angle

1376
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 13: a person could block someone there, but when you get

1377
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 13: out on the field that angle he can't do that.

1378
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 13: So it's it's still a learning. I'm still learning, but

1379
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:17,799
Speaker 13: I like where we're trending.

1380
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 14: What were some of your general takeaways of how you

1381
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 14: saw it play out in the NFL last year.

1382
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 13: Well, I think you know it's a play now where

1383
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 13: not you know it's going to be not as many touchbacks.

1384
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 13: I think you know they're anticipating you might go from

1385
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 13: twenty seven returns up to seventy five now. So I

1386
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 13: think it's what the league wants. The league wants every

1387
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 13: play to be watchable, and I think that's it's going

1388
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 13: to apply more pressure to the kickoff return teams and

1389
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 13: kickoff teams, and so I think that that's exciting in

1390
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 13: our area because obviously if they score on us, we

1391
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 13: have a kickoff return time and it's you know, an

1392
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 13: opportunity to flip the momentum back. So it's a it's

1393
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 13: it's uh, it's gonna be fun.

1394
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 4: Personal would you like at this game?

1395
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 13: What he's a good player, really catches the ball. Well,

1396
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 13: I think he's a smooth catcher. He has good speed

1397
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 13: and quickness.

1398
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

1399
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 13: We have a lot of guys here that I think

1400
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 13: do a really nice job of catching the football. In fact,

1401
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 13: this is I've I've said it multiple times. I've never

1402
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 13: had more punt catchers and kick catchers ever in my

1403
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 13: career than this place right here. So it's it's really

1404
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 13: nice not only to work with him, but the other guys.

1405
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 13: Also guys. I was with him in Carolina and he

1406
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 13: was a he was a kick return guy for us,

1407
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 13: and uh he's been developing as a punt return player.

1408
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 6: Also, christ help unique was to have a year off,

1409
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 6: I mean the rob and I went back and back

1410
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:48,839
Speaker 6: to the nineties.

1411
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 13: You know what it was. It was a blessing, uh,

1412
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 13: blessing in disguise. I you know, in this business, you're

1413
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 13: always moving around. I had the opportunity my daughter was

1414
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 13: a senior in high school, so I got to watch

1415
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 13: or play every senior soccer high school game. UH got

1416
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 13: to go take her to college. I actually went to

1417
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 13: a couple of college games. I I tailgated for the

1418
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 13: first time in my entire life. It was it was

1419
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 13: a neat experience. Uh, and and I'm very thankful, uh

1420
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,799
Speaker 13: for the opportunity that I got to do all that stuff.

1421
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 6: It's always a feel that he might not come back.

1422
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, but you know, uh, you know, I put my

1423
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 13: faith in the in the Good Lord, and uh to

1424
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 13: this day, he's never he's never led me astray. So UH,

1425
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 13: if you stick to that, you're in pretty good shape.

1426
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: Who called they, They called you.

1427
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 13: I was contacted, yes, through through the process, and and

1428
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 13: I'm glad, you know, uh, I had the opportunity to

1429
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 13: visit with coach, and I'm I'm I'm thankful for the

1430
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 13: opportunity and and really glad to be here.

1431
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 11: Did people going to camp within two hundreds.

1432
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: How it's happened?

1433
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 13: A few times? I think, uh, you know, you just

1434
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 13: got to put him in situations, uh, hopefully that are

1435
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 13: uncomfortable to kind of see what's in there. At the

1436
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 13: same time, put them in situations where they can show

1437
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 13: their skill set so they have, you know, a legit

1438
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 13: opportunity to.

1439
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: Win the job.

1440
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 13: That stuff will play out as we go, But I've

1441
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 13: been real pleased with both those.

1442
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: Guys right now.

1443
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 14: What's stuck out to you about Robins and Kamarta.

1444
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 13: Well, both you know, both guys have experience. Both have

1445
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 13: kicked in this league, so you're not worried about can

1446
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 13: they do it in a game and it will be

1447
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 13: too big form. Both have a little different styles to them,

1448
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 13: and I like that. It's just gonna be a matter of,

1449
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 13: you know, how this thing all plays out, and I

1450
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 13: think we still have a little bit of time. We'll

1451
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 13: see where it goes, all right.

1452
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: So that's Special Teams coordinator Chris Tabor, who addressed a

1453
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: bunch of things, the return game and what he thinks

1454
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: it will look like this year, the punter competition, you know,

1455
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: and how he got the job, and what benefits there

1456
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: were in being out of it for a year and

1457
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: really just looking at it from a ten thousand foot

1458
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: view from what coach me Dermott had told us. He

1459
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 1: was like studying and researching what the rest of the

1460
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: league was doing in year one of the whole kickoffs.

1461
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: So he's got volumes of material on which to play

1462
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: off of now to institute his own approach to that play.

1463
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, with this team, it's it's a different type of

1464
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,480
Speaker 2: era that they're in in special teams right now. Particularly

1465
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 2: you have four core guy, four core special teams. It's punt,

1466
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: punt return, kickoff, kickoff return, fueld goal fuel, goal defense

1467
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 2: is you know, they are their own, but they're pretty specialized, right.

1468
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 2: Everybody on there is just the offensive lineman and the kicker,

1469
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 2: and it's a long snapper. But punt, punt return and

1470
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 2: kickoff kickoff return is really where your bread is buttered

1471
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 2: on special teams, and it's really evolving constantly these days,

1472
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: so you got to stay on top of the rules

1473
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 2: changes and the nuances well trying to exploit It's it's

1474
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: a real job. I think that's I think it's placed

1475
01:14:55,439 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 2: a lot of emphasis on that spot and also, as

1476
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: we've seen, it kind of takes a lot of the

1477
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: pizazz out of the play, so you have to do

1478
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: a lot of work just to like tread water. It

1479
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 2: seems like right for a player, Like for me looking

1480
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 2: at as a player in that old mentality, it's like, man,

1481
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna work really hard for like no return, I mean,

1482
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: no benefit. It's really a weird time in special teams,

1483
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 2: and you've got to have a guy who's got a

1484
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 2: little bit of experience to help you navigate it and

1485
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: make sure you don't get caught.

1486
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: But like he said, he's expecting there to be far

1487
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: more live plays this year on kick return because given

1488
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: a team a drive start at their own thirty five

1489
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be too punitive for teams to stomach,

1490
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: especially if they don't have a lights out defense.

1491
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1492
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean, so they're gonna have to put the ball

1493
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: in play and go tackle some return man.

1494
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna be right at midfield after one first down.

1495
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: You know, take you like seven plays to get the midfield.

1496
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1497
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 2: It's it's gonna change the different it's gonna make it

1498
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 2: have a different complexion in these drives and these drive starts,

1499
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 2: and it's I think the rat the ripple effects we

1500
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 2: have yet to experience and find out about.

1501
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: Break time for us here still taking your phone calls

1502
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: on which Bill's free agent signing you believe will excel

1503
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: the most in the twenty twenty five season for Buffalo.

1504
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: We'll also crack open the tweets sheets see what you

1505
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: have to say there next year. On One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Which Bill's

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Speaker 1: free agent signing do you think excels the most this season?

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Speaker 1: We're still taking your phone calls at eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty one, eight eight, five fifty two, five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Some of the popular names have been Joshua Palmer, Michael Hoyt,

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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa was mentioned, Elijah Moore. Elijah Moore. So still

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Speaker 1: taking any and all of your suggestions, but we're going

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Speaker 1: to pivot over to the tweet sheet here. Crack that open,

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Speaker 1: and it's brought to you, as always by Corgan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Where

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Speaker 1: Andrew says, I would say Derek Forrest, the guy has

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01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: five years experience already, hasn't had the biggest game yet

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Speaker 1: of his career, but I believe he's in the right

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01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: system now and we should see him excel a lot

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Speaker 1: more than when he was in Washington. He was a

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Speaker 1: starter early in his career and then after some other

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Speaker 1: additions to the roster at the safety position, became a

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01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 1: reserve player for them. So he's here now and trying

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Speaker 1: to compete at the safety position. And as we've seen

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Speaker 1: Steve more and more, we're seeing these hybrid sub packages

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Speaker 1: with three safety looks in the dime, you know, four

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01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: corner looks in the dime sometimes but mostly three safety

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01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: looks the last couple year, so that could afford him

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Speaker 1: an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not as familiar as Andrew obviously is

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01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: a guy who wrote this tweet. But whether he's in

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01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 2: the right system or not in the right system, that

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Speaker 2: says a lot about what you may know about Derek

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Speaker 2: Forrest system, all the systems aside. I mean, the safety

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Speaker 2: position is one where you got to run and cover

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01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 2: and you got to see it. If he's having trouble

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Speaker 2: getting on the field in Washington, we'll see how that

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Speaker 2: translates into getting on the field here in Buffalo. If

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01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 2: the system was part of it, maybe he does take

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Speaker 2: a fast track and get on.

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Speaker 1: Joshua on the tweets sheet says Trey White. Good to

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Speaker 1: have him back home where he belongs. He knows the system,

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01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: excels in it, and he can help train up and

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Speaker 1: develop Hearston to be the Lockdown's own corner. We know

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01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: he will be. Yeah, you know, people maybe not had

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01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: not considered Trey White, but yeah, he's a free agent signing.

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01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: Could he excel perhaps, And like we were saying earlier, Steve,

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Speaker 1: if for whatever reason they don't feel Harston is ready

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01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 1: to start opposite Christian Benford and nail down that job.

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01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: You could do a you'd have a whole lot worse

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01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: fallback play than trudevious White.

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01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean it's nothing's going to be too big

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01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 2: for him, and he's not gonna Yeah, he's the perfect

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01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 2: guy to have on your roster in something with shape

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01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: or form particular. If he's in shape and ready to go.

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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see if he comes in and

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01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 2: plays at a high level like he hasn't in two years,

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Speaker 2: you know, because of his injuries, and he starts to

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01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 2: feel better and get back to his old self. Now,

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01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 2: certainly he's long in the tooth now, you know, he's

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01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: no spring chicken. But all of a sudden, Maxwell Harriston

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01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: isn't really as critical, right, Yeah, I don't know's it's

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01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 2: fun to think about, but I think Trey White is

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01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 2: a guy who's gonna kind of be an insurance policy.

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Speaker 2: But I think for him, in his mind, he's got

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01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 2: to be thinking, listen, I'm gonna take my spot right back.

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Speaker 2: I kind of hope he does, right, You kind of

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01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 2: hope he does because it's a high bar.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, you don't just show up and walk out there

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Speaker 2: and do it. You got to you gotta earn it.

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Speaker 2: And if he's good enough to earn it, man give

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Speaker 2: it to him.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, let's get back to the phones. At eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty, we go to Dino up

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Speaker 1: in Hamilton. What's up Dino?

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Speaker 3: Oh you guys, thank you for taking my call. I

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Speaker 3: guess I'm pretty pretty happy with the fact that we

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Speaker 3: signed Palmer. Uh A lot of questions. I know you

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Speaker 3: guys have justified.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the scheme isn't right, but I think the leisure

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01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 3: moorees is even a nicer addition. Quietly, I think he's

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Speaker 3: a team player. He's been healthy for a lot longer

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Speaker 3: than Palmer has. But offensively, I'm not really worried. I

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01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 3: think Shakier's got the dumb back and offensive were fine.

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Speaker 3: I think our biggest edition that I feel comforable with

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01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 3: is when this Michael Hoya comes into play. He reminds

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Speaker 3: me a lot of Bryce Pop. Brence Pop was a

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Speaker 3: lanky player, he was all over the defensive side to side.

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited to see this kid. Like I said,

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Speaker 3: you reminds me la of Bruce Bob. Also, Uh, not assigning,

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01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,919
Speaker 3: but the fact that we renegotiated, uh, finals contract.

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Speaker 1: Who's who's whose contract? Do you know you cut out?

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Speaker 2: You're breaking who's contract?

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Speaker 3: So they want that big contract?

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Speaker 2: Who do they resign?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you were breaking up there. We didn't hear

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Speaker 1: who you were talking about with the big contract.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Michael Hoyott. Michael Hoyott. But I think but we

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Speaker 3: we when re signed Matt Milano last year. I think

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Speaker 3: this is going to keep that kid healthy. I don't

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01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 3: know if you know, money keeps him healthy, but he's

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01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 3: gonna want a big payday after this, and he might

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Speaker 3: stay healthy all year. And with Matt Mllanald being healthy

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01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 3: all year, Michael Hoyle come in, it would be a

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Speaker 3: great addition to that defense. I think he's gonna put

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Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on quarterbacks and he'll be all

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Speaker 3: over the field.

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Speaker 1: All right, lit chess peace.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this too. If he's like Bryce Pop, don't

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Speaker 2: forget Bryce Pop was a defensive player of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I mean that. Now Bryce was playing opposite Bruce.

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Speaker 2: Also got the line up opposite Bruce a lot of

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01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 2: one on ones Pop and yeah bright, but Bryce Pop Man,

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Speaker 2: he exploded here. He had like a seventeen SAX season

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01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: or something like that. He was, he was on it.

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Speaker 2: He really played well here. So yeah, I mean, if

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Speaker 2: that happens, hey, man, sign us up right, get a

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Speaker 2: defensive player of the year in free Agentcy Markan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they went back to back on that because I

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Speaker 1: can't remember the order, but Bruce was defensive Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year in ninety five I think, and then Bryce

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Speaker 1: Pop was ninety six, or maybe it was the other

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Speaker 1: way around.

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Speaker 2: I think it was reversed that. I think Pop was

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Speaker 2: in ninety five his first year as a Bill, and

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Speaker 2: then Bruce was the next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Justin in Depew. What's up Justin?

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Speaker 15: Hey, guys, how you doing good. I wasn't a huge

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Speaker 15: fan of their free agent the higher free agency signings

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Speaker 15: they had as far as my anywise, but I was

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Speaker 15: very happy with that we got Ty Johnson back at

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Speaker 15: the number we got him back because I thought he

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01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 15: would price himself out of Buffalo. But just looking at

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Speaker 15: his contract here, two years, five million with only one

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01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 15: point four to nine million guaranteed, I think that's that's

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Speaker 15: a steal for someone of his quality as a running back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look fully, I think we all fully expect

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01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: him to remain the dedicated third down back for this

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01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: club going forward, after all the production he gave them

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01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: last year and even the backs as a whole, I

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01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 1: mean they had eight receiving touchdowns among the three of them.

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01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean they were a part of the passing game

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01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: in a big way, particularly down in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: Well, you think about how this works last year, and

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01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 2: you got Ty Johnson, you got you know, Jimbo, and

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01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 2: you got Ray Davis. Jimbo had like sixteen touchdowns running

1649
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,759
Speaker 2: rushing the ball too, so that whatever receiving touchdowns was

1650
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 2: was gravy. But think about you know, you go over

1651
01:23:58,200 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 2: the course of the year and you see how this

1652
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 2: kind of comes together. You go back, like in the

1653
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 2: Seattle game, Keon Coleman explodes, then you go a lot

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01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 2: and then in the Detroit game. In Detroit, the Bills

1655
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 2: walk in there, the Lions are twelve and one, and

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01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: the Bills go in and Ty Johnson crushes them one

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01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen yards in a touchdown. And then you

1658
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 2: go later on Jim Cook James Cook bus loose and

1659
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: gets scores three touchdowns and I can't remember the game.

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Speaker 1: He has three touchdowns against Miami in Week two.

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Speaker 2: Right, So you get all these different guys who and

1662
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir has his games. All these guys just come

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01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 2: out of nowhere. And because of the structure of the

1664
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 2: offense and the fact that everybody's playing and everybody gets

1665
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 2: his chance, and you know, Josh spreads the ball around

1666
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 2: and they pick matchups and you get this, we said

1667
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 2: this earlier. You get Palmer Moore, Shakiir, Chanault, Coleman, Curtis

1668
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 2: Samuel get you go deeper in quality matchups than any

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01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 2: defense can match up with you. They just can't match

1670
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: up that deep if you get those guys on the field, especially,

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01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 2: and that's not even to say anything about TDI Johnson

1672
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 2: and James Cook being on the field or Kincaid or whatever.

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01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 2: Nobody goes that deep man to man. So if they're

1674
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: gonna man up on you, Josh gonna pick your He's

1675
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 2: gonna crush you with a good player that you got

1676
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 2: no answer for because he's playing against your fourth corner.

1677
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 2: And yeah, Ty Johnson did exactly that last year. Yeah,

1678
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 2: he's a bargain on.

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01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 1: A mess up on a linebacker, a lot and a

1680
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: safety and.

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Speaker 2: He was You go back and watch that Detroit game,

1682
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: was on TV last night.

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01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was watching some of it.

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01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: He killed them, Yeah, killed them. I mean that was good.

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01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 1: It was good game planning too, because if I remember, right,

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01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: coming out of that game the following Monday, when we

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01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 1: talked to Joe Brady, he had kind of seen that

1688
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, with all the injuries they had sustained on defense,

1689
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 1: had been reluctant to come out of base so people

1690
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't run it down their throat, and so he took

1691
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: advantage of those in the passing game. And Ty Johnson

1692
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: was the focal point of that.

1693
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was and Josh was Josh was sensational.

1694
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 1: And then again break time for us here, one final

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01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 1: segment to go. We'll get some final thoughts on the

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01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: tweet sheet coming your way next here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 5: Stay with us.

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Speaker 1: All right back here on One Bill's Lives. Some final

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01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 1: thoughts on the tweet sheet, where Nick says he thinks

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01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: the free agent signing that will excel the most for

1701
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: the Bills is Palmer because he's on a more equal

1702
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: footing with this core of weapons as opposed to being

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01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: behind Mike Williams and Keenan Allen. That's an interesting perspective

1704
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: because there is no real true pecking order here, he

1705
01:26:55,560 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: thinks Palmer will be more productive. I understand that. I

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01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: get where you're coming from.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to say how it's going to shake out,

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01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's the logic. Says that it doesn't always

1710
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 2: work that way when you're dealing with human beings and

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01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 2: a lot of moving parts. But yeah, it looks like

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01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 2: it could be that, and I see the logic of it.

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01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: Joseph says. I think both Palmer and More will be big,

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01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 1: but the best value will be Forrest. I think he

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01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: has the skills and experience to take a starting spot

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01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: by midyear and will stick around for some time. Some

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01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: underground movement here for Derek Forrest. It's interesting, Will says

1718
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: Hoyt after his suspension. I think he's going to return

1719
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: with some fire and tear it up. I think he'll

1720
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: be a beast late in the season. Yes, please, Ryan,

1721
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: says Joshua Palmer. I think the Bills brass has big

1722
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: expectations and plans for him. He's young and has shown

1723
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 1: glimpses when healthy being a very productive player, especially when

1724
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 1: given the opportunity. Joey says Joshua Palmer also thinks he's

1725
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: just scratching the surface. He said he's torn between him

1726
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: and Michael Hoyt, who will cause problems once he is

1727
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: cleared to play. And then Jack says Elijah Moore, I

1728
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 1: wanted the Bills to draft him. When he was traded,

1729
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: I wanted the Bills in on that. I love his

1730
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: skill set, smooth, fast enough, good at many levels, nice hands,

1731
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: with consistent and competent quarterback play. More could be dynamic

1732
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 1: and put up career numbers fingers crossed. Well, when you

1733
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: think about the fact that that guy has played his

1734
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: entire career with the New York Jets and the Cleveland Browns,

1735
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 1: you understand why people like Jack or bullish on what

1736
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore could do here with an all world quarterback.

1737
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: What we and here's it all boils down to this,

1738
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 2: and we're about out of time, But it boils down

1739
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 2: to this and all this roster talk. It's given what

1740
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 2: we didn't know last year and what was proven to

1741
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 2: be unneeded last year meeting like a big wide receiver action,

1742
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: all that dah da da da, what was proven by

1743
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 2: that last year, and given what they have added this year,

1744
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: the floor of this team seems to be really high, right.

1745
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 2: We have a lot of confidence in the entire top

1746
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 2: to bottom and every fast really high floor for this

1747
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 2: crew and also high end if they can reach all

1748
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 2: that potential. I mean, yes, very high. So yeah, we're

1749
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 2: not getting There's some expectations that this team on the

1750
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: national level, they're thinking, yeah, they're gonna be there again,

1751
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 2: but because of the way it's ended for them in

1752
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 2: the last five years, everybody's like, yeah, Okay, they're gonna

1753
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 2: have a chance again, but we'll see. I think it's

1754
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: better than that this year.

1755
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 1: I want to believe it is as well. And I

1756
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: think I am leaning Elijah Moore here because anybody who

1757
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 1: can get sixty one catches in that Browns offense last

1758
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,560
Speaker 1: year with four different quarterbacks still in the football, you

1759
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: can only imagine what he would do here. It's an

1760
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 1: interesting thing to think about. Thanks for all the contributions

1761
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: to the show today, phone calls and tweets alike. That's

1762
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: it for us here today, but we'll be back here,

1763
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 1: same bad time, same bad channel. Steve and I will

1764
01:29:53,840 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: see you at one sh