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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Move the Sticks DJ here as we bring

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Speaker 3: you a best of episode today. We have had a

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Speaker 3: chance throughout the calendar year to talk to some of

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Speaker 3: the top college coaches in the country and wanted to

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Speaker 3: give you a little flavor of each of those conversations

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Speaker 3: in case you missed it. So the guys, you're going

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Speaker 3: to be hearing from our Boise State head coach Spencer Danielson,

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Speaker 3: playoff team, Indiana head coach Kurt Signetty. What a year

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Speaker 3: for the Hoosiers as they were in the playoffs, Miami

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Speaker 3: head coach Mario Christobal, big year there for the Hurricanes

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Speaker 3: and the acc And just recently had a chance to

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Speaker 3: visit with the new head coach of my alma mater

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Speaker 3: at Appalachian State, that is Dwa Loggins, which is a

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Speaker 3: fascinating conversation about the landscape of college football and where

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Speaker 3: it's headed. So hope you guys enjoy this one. Let's

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Speaker 3: start first of all with our conversation with Boise State

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Speaker 3: head coach Spencer Danielson. Bucky and Rhet had a chance

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Speaker 3: to visit with him in November, and I think you'll

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Speaker 4: Oh you're talking about learning and growing.

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Speaker 5: You go from being the interim head coach to being

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Speaker 5: the head coach. How much of a whirlwind has it

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Speaker 5: been for you to deal with that promotion while putting

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Speaker 5: your own stamp on the team and continuing what has

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Speaker 5: been a really good tradition at Boise State.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's I mean, guys, it's the grace

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Speaker 6: of God. And I got a lot of really good

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Speaker 6: mentors that I consistently picked their brain on when I

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Speaker 6: got the interim head coaching job. You know, Coach Peterson's

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Speaker 6: a huge mentor of mine and multiple others others that

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm I'm not that smart, I'm not that cool,

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Speaker 6: and I tell people that like, this is not this

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Speaker 6: is that I've done. I'm a product of having a

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Speaker 6: lot of really good people around me. And so even

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Speaker 6: when I got the interim job, to even weekly I'm

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Speaker 6: talk with head coaches because I tell our players like,

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Speaker 6: I'm relentless to make sure I grow every single day

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Speaker 6: to be the best version of myself because that's what

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Speaker 6: growing for myself to help lead these young men in

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Speaker 6: all facets and developing in life.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's something that.

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Speaker 6: I'm very open about with our team is you know,

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Speaker 6: we build champions here first.

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Speaker 7: I believe that. Then a byproduct of that is winning championships.

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Speaker 6: But I feel cold to make sure and these young

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Speaker 6: and fathers and even some of our best players. Seeing

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Speaker 6: how they lead, seeing who they are in the community,

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Speaker 6: who they are as men of character. That's what really

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Speaker 6: brings me so much fulfillment on a daily basis.

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Speaker 7: And I'm just so blessed to be around man coach.

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Speaker 8: That's such a powerful message, and it's one of development, right,

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Speaker 8: It's one of development and growth.

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Speaker 2: But there's so much in.

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Speaker 8: College football these days that speaks to the opposite, right,

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Speaker 8: that speaks to got to have it right now, whether

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Speaker 8: that's from the team side, whether that's from the fans.

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Speaker 2: Side or the player side.

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Speaker 8: How do you kind of bring all of that together

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely great, Quo us and you know, we talk

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Speaker 7: It's just it's different here.

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Speaker 6: And I've been here for this is year number eight

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Speaker 6: this is years ago eve when I'm an assistant, like when,

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Speaker 6: what's what's it about Boise State?

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Speaker 7: Is it the blue field?

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Speaker 6: And You're like, well, you know, that's a part of it,

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Speaker 7: Like and I tell our staff, like, we don't.

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Speaker 7: We're not going to do that.

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Speaker 6: Like, we want to be about transformation here, about building champions,

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Speaker 6: not about just the transactions of well, coaches come here

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Speaker 7: Just the reality of college football, askat.

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Speaker 6: But we want to be different here, and I want

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Speaker 6: I mean what Anshenty did last season, That's what an

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Speaker 6: Ahmed Haasain did well. They could have gone anywhere. They

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Speaker 6: They want to be developed not only for the NFL,

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Speaker 6: we are now because they know the best place for

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Speaker 5: Coach you mentioned you talked about the running back and

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Speaker 6: I mean, guys, we could be here all day talk

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Speaker 6: He's touched my life, not only my life, just this team.

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Speaker 7: Because before I even.

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Speaker 6: Talk about the football side of Ashon Genty, I want

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Speaker 6: He was committed to this place. And since the second

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Speaker 6: and we had a walk through, you know, later in

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Speaker 6: I could tell that he's a little frustrated, and he's like, coach,

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Speaker 6: I need you to set a player's only meeting because

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Speaker 6: bunch of our players called me after he said coach,

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Speaker 6: we needed that. Like, Ashton said some things straight, like

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Speaker 6: he's about the team. It's not coach. How many carrieres

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Speaker 6: can I get? You know, what's what's out there in

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Speaker 6: the media about me. It's team, team, team.

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Speaker 7: That's how he practiced, that's how he works.

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Speaker 6: I had the you know, monster blessing of being able

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's just a testament to who he is

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Speaker 6: because he just he's a man of high character, loves

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Speaker 6: but to continue to push our team to get to

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Speaker 6: you to learn and grow as well. I mean, he's

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Speaker 6: he's a ten out of ten human being. I meet

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Speaker 2: That's super cool.

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Speaker 8: And then you know, you come up kind of through

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Speaker 8: the defensive side of the ball, right to your position

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Speaker 8: now as the head coach, so you kind of had

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Speaker 8: a unique view of what Ashton was able to do.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 8: Was there a moment because I go back to when

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Speaker 8: I remember we didn't know anything about this kid right

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Speaker 8: like twenty carries in a scrimmage and had like two

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I have a great question. I will never forget.

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Speaker 6: I'm the defensive coordinator. Ash is an early en rollie.

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Speaker 6: He's seventeen years old. I mean he's only twenty right now.

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Speaker 6: He's seventeen years old, and I mean, let's not get

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Speaker 6: a twisted Ashton was big and strong as a seventeen

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Speaker 7: So when he walked in, it was like, okay, here

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Speaker 6: Get your mind right, defense, and we are in our

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Speaker 6: it's fourth and one in a scrimmage and it's our

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Speaker 6: That's like they shouldn't be able to run the ball anywhere, right,

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Speaker 6: And this is what I relate to players, like, you

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Speaker 6: don't know how to attack him, Like do you do

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Speaker 6: If you line him up at empty he just he

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Speaker 6: continually puts not only defensive coordinators, but all the eleven

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Speaker 8: You know, to to do this in your first year

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Speaker 8: as the full time head coach is certainly special, but

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Speaker 8: there's so much that goes into it. And we love

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Speaker 8: roster construction here on Move the Sticks Coach. We talk

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Speaker 8: about it all the time from the NFL level, but

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Speaker 8: it's so it's almost mirrred now on the college level,

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Speaker 8: and I'm sure you can attest to that. I feel

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Speaker 8: like there's a couple of different ways you can look

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Speaker 8: it's you know, whether it's you know, incoming high school,

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Speaker 8: you know seniors, you have guys that you build connections with, right,

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Speaker 8: you have guys that you think have great potential, or

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Speaker 8: especially with the transfer portal, you have guys that have

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Speaker 8: shown great production. How do you kind of waigh those

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I mean management obviously, roster's going to one

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Speaker 6: oh five, and there's a lot of different moving parts

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Speaker 6: with it, not only in talent acquisition, but job number

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Speaker 6: one for me is keeping our players. And with the

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Speaker 6: Because not only are we going to need their support

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Speaker 11: Eliminate the noise, eliminate the clutter, have great focus, positive energy,

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Speaker 11: Right, Well, we had to go heavy portal just to

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Speaker 5: turn this around it fairly quickly. I know you'd have

439
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Speaker 5: some other jobs, you have success at James Madison, those things. Well,

440
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Speaker 5: why were you so confident that your playing your process

441
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Speaker 5: will work at Indiana in the Big Ten?

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Speaker 11: Well, I had a lot of confidence in myself because

443
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Speaker 11: of how much Wind won, and I had some turnaround

444
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Speaker 11: jobs that we turned around real quickly. And it was

445
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Speaker 11: year fourteen and year forty two as a coach, and

446
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Speaker 11: you know, grew up coach's son and been around some

447
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Speaker 11: great people and learned a lot from Coach Saban obviously,

448
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Speaker 11: so I felt like.

449
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Speaker 10: I knew it I was doing.

450
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Speaker 11: And then you know, I got I went out on

451
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Speaker 11: a limb here early on with some statements publicly, and

452
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Speaker 11: it was more so because of what I felt the

453
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Speaker 11: first down job here sort of a hopelessness and despair

454
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Speaker 11: around the program. People had sort of given up on it,

455
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Speaker 11: and people outside the program sort of looked down on us.

456
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Speaker 11: And it was like two worlds clashing clashing. You know,

457
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Speaker 11: my world, which is used to winning all the time,

458
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Speaker 11: and their world. I wasn't going to lower my expectations,

459
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Speaker 11: so I had to create some excitement and set an

460
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Speaker 11: expectation level. I really felt good about what we got

461
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Speaker 11: done those first three weeks with those twenty two transfers.

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Speaker 11: That's signing date December twenty first, whenever it was, and

463
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Speaker 11: I knew.

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Speaker 10: The schedule and what did we have to sell?

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Speaker 11: Okay, here's what we had to sell, Like if you're

466
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Speaker 11: a quarterback or last four quarterback's been player of a

467
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Speaker 11: year of the league in offense, you know, and the

468
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Speaker 11: previous two were one year G five transfers, just like

469
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Speaker 11: we have now with Curtis work. You know, we had

470
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Speaker 11: two thousand yards receives in the same season two the

471
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Speaker 11: last three years defensively weren't a top five. Every year

472
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Speaker 11: gets to run TFLs and sacks. And we had won.

473
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Speaker 11: This staff had won, and most of the staff had

474
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Speaker 11: come with me. And then the schedule, I mean, the

475
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Speaker 11: schedule was what it was, and I'd go down that

476
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Speaker 11: schedule with each one of these guys because, look, they

477
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Speaker 11: want to come in here to play and contribute, they

478
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Speaker 11: want to start right, but they want to win too,

479
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Speaker 11: And so this division of what could happen. And quite frankly,

480
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Speaker 11: I've had big one year turnarounds there every job I took,

481
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Speaker 11: you know, because I got this magic wand in my

482
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Speaker 11: back pocket.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I thought I thought.

484
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Speaker 11: That confidence I needed to portray that in this particular

485
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Speaker 11: situation at this place a little more outwardly than in

486
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Speaker 11: the other places.

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Speaker 5: Quicky coach, because you talked about the transfer portal and

488
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Speaker 5: mixing high school players in those things, and you talked

489
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Speaker 5: about it being a year leader existence. When it comes

490
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Speaker 5: to team building, how QUI can you get a team

491
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Speaker 5: up to speed in terms of there's so many individual agendas?

492
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Speaker 5: How do you get your players to put that to

493
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Speaker 5: decide to really focus on the team first and everything else?

494
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Speaker 4: That played well.

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Speaker 11: I think what really helped us in this particular situation

496
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Speaker 11: is we brought thirteen guys from JMU, thirteen guys from

497
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Speaker 11: a championship culture that were really tight with one another,

498
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Speaker 11: knew how the program was one run. I'm sorry and

499
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Speaker 11: had a little bit of a chip on their shoulder.

500
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Speaker 11: And the other guys we brought in had high character too,

501
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Speaker 11: and the ones who stayed were the right kind of guys.

502
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Speaker 11: So that culture really started in January with the off

503
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Speaker 11: season program the JM. You guys facilitated it. But bottom

504
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Speaker 11: line is this, you still have to get the results

505
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Speaker 11: on the field. Yeah, Like you win the first one,

506
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Speaker 11: that builds some belief and confidence. You win the second

507
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Speaker 11: you go out to UCLA and win. Now, all of

508
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Speaker 11: a sudden, you see a lot of things starting to

509
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Speaker 11: come together. And this team's just built on every success.

510
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Speaker 11: And you know, we played fairly consistently. It's not perfect

511
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Speaker 11: every game. We've got some improvements to make corrections, but

512
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Speaker 11: we've been fairly steady.

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Speaker 10: But winning helps everything.

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Speaker 3: Love those conversations, those first two interviews. Hope you guys

515
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Speaker 3: enjoyed them. We've got a couple more coming your way

516
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Speaker 3: right after this. All right, Next up, speaking of Alma Matersnbill,

517
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Speaker 3: our producer. He's a Miami Hurricane. That is not the

518
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Speaker 3: reason why we wanted this next head coach on. It

519
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Speaker 3: was because of the success he's had throughout his career

520
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Speaker 3: as a position coach as someone who's known as one

521
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Speaker 3: of the best offensive line coaches for a long period

522
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Speaker 3: of time, then distinguished himself as a head coach throughout

523
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Speaker 3: a couple stops, including a very successful stint at Oregon,

524
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Speaker 3: before returning to his alma mater, Miami to take over

525
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Speaker 3: a Hurricane program that he led to a ten and

526
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Speaker 3: two record this year, including six and two in the ACC.

527
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Speaker 3: You'll see them play against Iowa State and the Pop

528
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Speaker 3: Charts Bowl that's going to be on Saturday. Bucky myself,

529
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Speaker 3: we both had a chance to sit down and chat

530
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Speaker 3: with Mario Christobal back in October.

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Speaker 5: You know, Coach, you played in the Miami doing the

532
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Speaker 5: Heyday and bringing it back. Your guys come to Miami

533
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Speaker 5: to play in these kinds of games, right, They come

534
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Speaker 5: to play in big games. How do you sell that

535
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Speaker 5: when you're recruiting players about Look, you come to Miami

536
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Speaker 5: to play in the biggest games, to be on the

537
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Speaker 5: biggest and brightest stages.

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Speaker 1: I think the first thing we had to do was

539
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Speaker 1: just get right to work and start putting together a

540
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Speaker 1: roster and a coaching staff and infrastructure that screams Miami.

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Speaker 1: And when I say that, I'm talking about the standard

542
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Speaker 1: that we all know Miami was and should always be.

543
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Speaker 1: So I think we've done a lot of work and

544
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Speaker 1: we've made a lot of progress, and that kind of

545
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Speaker 1: sells itself. But we have a lot of alumni in

546
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Speaker 1: the building, a lot of guys that actually bled it

547
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Speaker 1: orange and green all day every day, and so it's

548
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Speaker 1: more of just telling the story than actually selling because

549
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Speaker 1: of is strong and you know how that is.

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Speaker 4: Man.

551
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Speaker 1: You can tell you when someone's bs and when someone's

552
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Speaker 1: being honest and genuine, and.

553
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Speaker 4: You can feel it and see it.

554
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Speaker 1: When our people talk about the University of Miami and

555
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Speaker 1: then you guys have been down there a few times,

556
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Speaker 1: it kind of starts a little bit too, right.

557
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not bad. It's not a bad environment down there.

558
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Speaker 3: Coach, you talk about the roster building, I want to

559
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Speaker 3: get to that, because, yeah, I want to talk about

560
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Speaker 3: the offense line.

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Speaker 2: Specifically, which has been your baby.

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Speaker 3: It's been your calling card everywhere you've been at your

563
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Speaker 3: background and you've always had good offensive lines. How much

564
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Speaker 3: of it is the acquiring of the players versus then

565
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Speaker 3: developing the players once you get them on campus.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's a great question, man, It's it's both

567
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Speaker 1: you know, and and our offensive line coach, coach Alex

568
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Speaker 1: Mirrabald does not get enough credit. That guy is the

569
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Speaker 1: elite of the elite. We actually went to high school together,

570
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Speaker 1: played on the same offensive line to watch tape and say, man,

571
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Speaker 1: if we ever get our chance to be coaches, we're

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Speaker 1: going to build o line.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: It is the fact, I mean the bigs, you know,

575
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Speaker 1: the bigs take longer develop. So if you have to,

576
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Speaker 1: if you have to restart a program, rebuild a program,

577
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Speaker 1: you better go in all in on the bigs early,

578
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Speaker 1: right away and get more hits than not because typically

579
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Speaker 1: are gonna take two and three years to develop. You

580
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Speaker 1: might hit on one or two Pina schools, you know,

581
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Speaker 1: just my noise. You might hit on those guys, but

582
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Speaker 1: the other ones are going to take some time because

583
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Speaker 1: we haven't really done much of the portal in terms

584
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Speaker 1: of the old line one or two you know, here

585
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Speaker 1: and there. But yeah, we're all in on the trenches

586
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Speaker 1: on both sides because then that becomes an iron sharpened,

587
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Speaker 1: iron type of arena out there every single day.

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Speaker 4: And and you know what, when Miami was.

589
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Speaker 1: Really good despite all the fame and fortune that goes

590
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Speaker 1: to the wide receivers and skill guys.

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Speaker 4: We always had great trenches.

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Speaker 1: Man, the guys up front were always just elite and

593
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Speaker 1: made it, you know, impossible for other teams to beat us.

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Speaker 5: You know, coach, I'm so curious about like the approach

595
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Speaker 5: in this area. You hear some coaches complain about like

596
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Speaker 5: nil and the transfer portal and the transient nature football,

597
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Speaker 5: But you've always struck me.

598
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Speaker 4: As an old school coach.

599
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Speaker 5: How does old school work with new school players?

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Speaker 1: It just works, you know. I think it's if old

601
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Speaker 1: school and I think of old school, I think I

602
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: like the right stuff. I think I'm a high school

603
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Speaker 1: coach who is the best mentor and teacher I ever had.

604
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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy looks and acts like Sunsey Crease

605
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Speaker 1: from and the principles and values of that man are

606
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Speaker 1: identical to Jimmy Johnson and Nick Saban, guys that I

607
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: worked for and played for.

608
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Speaker 4: And so I don't think that ever changes.

609
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Speaker 1: And I don't think any one of us would want

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Speaker 1: our own son to go to a program that caters

611
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Speaker 1: to you know, having a you know, guys doing things

612
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Speaker 1: and having a disregard for doing things the right way.

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Speaker 1: So old school is hard, intense and passionate coaching, but

614
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Speaker 1: it's about the right things. It's not just to make

615
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Speaker 1: noise and whatnot. So I think it works awesome. I

616
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Speaker 1: think it's still the best approach. And so that you're

617
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Speaker 1: don't find yourself in a hostage situation, a hostage crisis.

618
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: You recruit your tail off to make sure that if

619
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Speaker 1: a guy's kind of going sideways on it, that you

620
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: invest a lot in have another one ready to come in.

621
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Speaker 1: That's better, right, so that you are never compromising the culture.

622
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Speaker 1: And so the whole organization sees that, hey, no matter

623
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Speaker 1: the talent level, no matter what the situation is, we're

624
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Speaker 1: going to do things a certain way as it relates

625
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Speaker 1: to the entire team.

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Speaker 4: And that is really.

627
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Speaker 1: As spoken and has held strong in our organization.

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Speaker 2: Coach.

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Speaker 3: When you look at the teams and you mentioned Nick

630
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Speaker 3: Saban and being a part of that organization, there the

631
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Speaker 3: teams that have had this long sustained success that have

632
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Speaker 3: been you know, college football playoff contenders every single year.

633
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Speaker 3: I go back to conversation I had with Stacy Sterles

634
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Speaker 3: at Georgia when he I asked him before they played

635
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Speaker 3: TCU in the championship game. I said, coach, I was

636
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Speaker 3: practiced this week. He said O Tuesday was a bloodbath.

637
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Speaker 3: He said, it was ones versus ones, and that's that's

638
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Speaker 3: how they do it. And you've you've experienced that and

639
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: built it the same way. How much good on good

640
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Speaker 3: can you afford to do?

641
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Speaker 4: Guys?

642
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Speaker 3: You don't want to lose guys. You want guys to

643
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: go down. But man, you talk about iron Sharpen's iron.

644
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: When you get those heavyweights going against each other in practice.

645
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Speaker 4: It's every day.

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Speaker 1: You have to do it every day, and you might

647
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Speaker 1: have to limit a guy here and there. But if

648
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Speaker 1: you don't build a callus football team, you're no good

649
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Speaker 1: in November. I'm just you know, if you start catering

650
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Speaker 1: and if you start getting the mentality, oh let's just

651
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: get them to the game, what are you actually getting

652
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Speaker 1: to the game someone that maybe couldn't fight through the

653
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Speaker 1: bumps and bruises that come with football. Now, if a

654
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Speaker 1: guy's truly injured, you have to I mean, you do

655
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Speaker 1: the right thing. But the pains and the riggers and

656
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: the demands of football, the things that come with it,

657
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Speaker 1: you've got to it's your responsibility. If you want guys

658
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Speaker 1: to play in the NFL, they've got to understand and realize, brother,

659
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: when you're at that next level. I mean, you see

660
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: guys playing with torn biceps, right, I mean the nature

661
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: of the shoulder, the knee, some of the things that

662
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: come with it. So it's our due an obligation to

663
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Speaker 1: protect them but also push some of the things that

664
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Speaker 1: are again healthy. You don't get risk. I know that

665
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: answers a question, but no, good on good you got

666
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: to do it, man. Yeah, the amount of juice that

667
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: it brings to practice, the way guys get better.

668
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: You just you know, you say, hey, man, don't don't

669
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: die for a ball. Man.

670
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's a little bit out of hand, and

671
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: sometimes like the w W it's like, you know, macho man,

672
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: and then studying. I don't think you could have it

673
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: any other way. And I think all the guys that

674
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned they always had enough.

675
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Speaker 5: You know, Coach, you've been fortunate to be around really

676
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 5: good quarterbacks, like franchise quarterback up in Oregon and justin

677
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 5: Herbert you have a really good winning cam ward before

678
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: we talk about them specifically, for you, when you're recruiting,

679
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 5: what are some of the traits that you look for

680
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 5: in an elite or a franchise quarterback at your level.

681
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 4: He's got to have the mindset of an elite linebacker.

682
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: He's got to be a real tough, smart, diligent alpha.

683
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 4: Is what we're looking for. I mean that the best

684
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: you know cam Ward is is he's one of a kind.

685
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: He really isn't You watch his ability and some of

686
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: the things that he does as talent level is it's

687
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: just unique.

688
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 4: But people don't get to see this guy behind the scenes.

689
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: And when they do, when they get a chance to

690
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: actually feel it and see it, they're going to see

691
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: that this guy is truly one.

692
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: Of a kind with all the intangibles as well.

693
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: This guy man, he demands it of himself, but there's

694
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: no flinch and no hesitation when he's got a demand

695
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: it from his teammates. And it started early the moment

696
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: he got to campus. He didn't wait long, but he

697
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: proved it with his performance in practice.

698
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: So we look for that.

699
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: Obviously all the other stuff everybody else looks for, But

700
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: the guy's got to be a dog man. I mean,

701
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't think you could treat that guy like a

702
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 1: China doll, like Bill Bellich, you know, Coach Belichick, excuse

703
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: me speak about all the time you don't. There's no

704
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: what do they call that called the golden what he

705
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: called it a China doll. He didn't have any.

706
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: There's no golden spoon there either.

707
00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 4: Exactly.

708
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: Coach, when when we were trying to get guys, we're

709
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: talking to players go to the draft.

710
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 4: No sacred cous he said, no.

711
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: No sacred cous there sacred counts there we go.

712
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 4: Thank you.

713
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: That's it, Yeah, it came. It came to you.

714
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: The one of the last things I want to hit

715
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: you on coaches when you when you look at teams

716
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: and how they're built, and you think about the you know,

717
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: the guys that love football, and we talk about that

718
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: in the draft every year we're looking at guys. We're

719
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: trying to do our homework and going back to our

720
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: scouting days when you're going on visits and you're talking

721
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: with everybody in the building, and it's a challenge for

722
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: us at the NFL level to find out how these

723
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: guys are wired and how much they are passionate about it.

724
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: How the heck are you guys able to figure that

725
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: out with a high school kid.

726
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: It's in the words of my O line coach, here

727
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: are key who actually visiting this week and we flew

728
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: them in complete maniac. You said, all recruiting the most

729
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: imperfect science in the world. And I think as coaches

730
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: when we're on the road, we fail to seek out

731
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: trusted resources, coaches, people in the community that have been

732
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: around some of these players and savement knee high and

733
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: can tell you everything about them. Because this is when

734
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: the streets talk certain parts of history. They can give

735
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: you the four one one on just about everybody, and

736
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: you better listen to them because they really do know.

737
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: And then that grants the opportunity to expand your you know,

738
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: your research and some of the recon you do on guys.

739
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: But whether that part of it, I mean, it's you've

740
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: got to dig deep and it has become like the

741
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: biggest hit or misfactor as it relates to the guys

742
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: that you signed, as it relates to recruiting, you've got

743
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: to find the guy that's knocking out the park on

744
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: intangibles because it's getting harder and more competitive.

745
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 4: There's money involved. Now there's there's it's not.

746
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: Even third parties, it's third, fourth, and fifth parties that

747
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: evolved and so you better have someone that either has

748
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: a great you know circle of people and support system

749
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: and that is really locked in and wired the right way.

750
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: Right great here from Coach Crystoball, you can tell just

751
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: a very smart, very planned, very organized, very disciplined man

752
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: at the helm there for Miami. This next one is

753
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: a fun one for me because it's the man who's

754
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 3: going to take over my alma mater at Appalachian State.

755
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: Dal Loggins comes with a long career in the NFL

756
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 3: on the coaching side before making the transition to college,

757
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 3: both at Arkansas, his alma mater, as well as a

758
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: very successful two year run as the officeive coordinator at

759
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: South Carolina where they really got things rolling this past

760
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: year that led to the opportunity for him to be

761
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: named the new head coach at app State. Bucky and

762
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: I had a chance to visit with him very recently. Coach,

763
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: how are we doing doing great?

764
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 9: Wonderful to be sitting this office right now, and so

765
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 9: much respect for the people that have come before me

766
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 9: like you that every day I walk down the all

767
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 9: and I see your face on the wall. So unbelievable opportunity.

768
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 9: I'm so excited to be on with you guys.

769
00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 10: Today.

770
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 3: We're going to get We're gonna get through the whole

771
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: background and what's got you to this point. But I

772
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: do have to ask you what was the what was

773
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: the biggest surprise for you so far since you've been there.

774
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 10: Oh my gosh.

775
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 9: So I had an opportunity to meet with all the players,

776
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 9: the previous staff, a bunch of donors, a bunch of supporters,

777
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 9: But just the biggest surprise is how much pride that

778
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 9: the people have in this place and whether the community,

779
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 9: the region that it is a place that is loved.

780
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 9: There's a very high standard here and the expectation is

781
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 9: to win. And you just you walk by and it's

782
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 9: all these pictures of rings and conference championships and all

783
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 9: these great alumni. It's been You just feel it's really

784
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 9: hard to be in a place that they don't understand

785
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 9: what winning looks like. It's just it's hard to create

786
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 9: it and you can sell a vision. But intrigue me

787
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 9: about this place is they know how to win, and

788
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 9: winning is really important around here, and they do it

789
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 9: the right way.

790
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 5: You know, coaching and thinking about that, doing it the

791
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 5: right way, and really a different frontier that you're stepping

792
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 5: into college landscape, Like you hear everyone talk about how

793
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 5: crazy it is with the portal and the different timelines

794
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 5: and those things. So how challenging has it been to

795
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 5: manage all of the portal stuff while also trying to

796
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 5: assemble the staff and put together all of the other

797
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 5: things that you have to do as a new head coach.

798
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is a challenge. And I don't know if

799
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 9: the calendar is the way it should be, but it

800
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 9: is what it is. So right now, this is what

801
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 9: we're worried about our own players, keeping them retain the

802
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 9: ones we want to retain. You're dealing with in ile,

803
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 9: which is NFL free AC with no salary cap. You're

804
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 9: trying to assess what's in the portal doesn't make you better.

805
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 9: But here's where you can make mistakes. If you don't

806
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 9: research a kid, if you don't talk to the trainer

807
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 9: of the place he's coming from, you don't talk to

808
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 9: the strength coach, if you don't talk to the high

809
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 9: school coach, you're not being thorough. So you got to

810
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 9: be thorough and go through the process of evaluation to

811
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 9: make sure you're doing all those things right. And because

812
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 9: you're so limited and everything, it's speed dating on top

813
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 9: of trying to figure out is there people on the

814
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 9: staff you want to keep or trying to get people

815
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 9: at other programs that you want to come be part

816
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 9: of your staff. Some people are still playing, some people

817
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 9: in a college football playoff. So it's it's a challenging

818
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 9: time as a college coach, but it's why we sign

819
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 9: up for these opportunities to figure it out, and it's

820
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 9: get the calendar is what it is. You'd love to

821
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 9: make some edits to it, but you make the most

822
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 9: of the situation. And there is definitely a lot going on.

823
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: After a decade plus in the NFL, you go back

824
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: to Arkansas, get a couple of years coaching there, then

825
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: a very successful stint as oc there at South Carolina.

826
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: How beneficial was having that little buffer college experience before

827
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: you step into this role as a head coach at

828
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: the collegiate level versus maybe just coming straight from the

829
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 3: NFL and jumping right into that gig.

830
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 9: You know, it was beneficial. There was also between the

831
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 9: Jets when they let the head coach go for about

832
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 9: a four month, the cup of coffee with coach Franklin

833
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 9: Penn State, Okay, And so when we we had an

834
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 9: unbelievable general manager at the new York Jets. I learned

835
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 9: a ton from Joe Douglas obviously about the evaluation process,

836
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 9: and he is a bright evaluator. He is a very

837
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 9: talented person, a stud of a human being. Learned a

838
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 9: ton from him, so it was fortunate to be around him.

839
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 9: And then, you know, we're trying to make the transition

840
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 9: into the NFL, and you go to places and you see,

841
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 9: you know, the structure between the ownership, the general manager,

842
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 9: the head coach, and you know, got really intrigued with

843
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 9: college football. And so coach frankl had an opportunity and

844
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 9: I wasn't sure. I didn't want to take the job.

845
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 9: It's kind of like, hey, I'm still getting paid by

846
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 9: the Jets. A couple of NFL opportunities, but I never

847
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 9: coached in college. I had an interest in the pageantry,

848
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 9: the tradition, the history of college football. So I went

849
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 9: to with coach Franklin for about four months. Learned about

850
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 9: this guy's created a consistency at a program for a

851
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 9: long period of time, and he's really bright and he's

852
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 9: a forward thinker. And I watched how he grinded recruiting,

853
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:06,959
Speaker 9: and this guy's Freddy Krueger recruiting it's talked about every day.

854
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 9: And I mean I remember walking to the staff meetings

855
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 9: every morning at seven fifteen and he's asking He's going

856
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 9: around the Hey, who what who'd you talk to last night?

857
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 9: Who'd you talk to? This is who I talked to?

858
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 9: And when the head coach recruits the way he recruits,

859
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 9: it's no secret why they've built longevity over a long

860
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 9: period of time. And then Sam Pittman calls me. He's

861
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 9: the head coach of Arksas and I'm an alum and

862
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 9: played there and I've never met him in my life

863
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 9: and he's telling me, hey, come come to Arkansas and

864
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 9: helped me out. And I said, Coach, I don't want

865
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 9: to if if it doesn't work out, I don't if

866
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 9: I if I stayed for a year, I don't want

867
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 9: to be mad at me. He's like, you're doing your

868
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 9: university of favor if you come back. So I was

869
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 9: a guys, if y'all need me, I'm gonna I'll come

870
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 9: for one year, that's all I'm promising. And so I

871
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 9: go to Arkansas and Coach Franklin was great through the process.

872
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 9: He's like, hey, look, if you want to do this,

873
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 9: you need to go prove you and recruit the SEC.

874
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 10: We know you can coach.

875
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 9: You've been a coordinator in the NFL Ford Difmert team,

876
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 9: blah blah blah blah. You got to go reprove you

877
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 9: recruit in the SEC. So we go to Arkansas as

878
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 9: a tight end coach, and for about nine weeks, I

879
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 9: think I was the twenty four to seven, like number

880
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 9: one recruiter of the year, whatever that means over there,

881
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 9: and I'm I had a chip on my shoulder because

882
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 9: there are people that, hey, in this guy recruit, He's

883
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 9: only coach in the NFL, And I just watched Freddy

884
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 9: Krueger for four months recruit and I'm like, hey, we

885
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 9: can just outwork people and signed players like we're willing

886
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 9: to do more than the next guy. So go there,

887
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 9: and it was signed a great class and I liked it.

888
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 9: So I stayed a second year at Arkansas and I

889
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 9: enjoyed the players, I enjoyed the atmosphere college football. And

890
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 9: then the opportunity came to South Carolina and it was

891
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 9: a coordinator job, and it took me a little bit

892
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 9: of time to make a decision. I was talking to

893
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 9: two or three different SEC schools. By the coordinator job,

894
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 9: but there was something about South Carolina and Spencer Ratler.

895
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 9: They didn't really intrigue me because of Spence. So I

896
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 9: go there and Spence has a good year every thing,

897
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 9: with third in the conference in passing, and we developed this.

898
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 9: I remember I was telling him recruit this today. Probably

899
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 9: about this time two years ago. This big six two

900
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 9: two hundred and fifteen pound guy walks in my office

901
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 9: and I'm like, hey, what's up. And he's like, hey, Paul,

902
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 9: I mean maybe I was just transfer. He just balls

903
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 9: that and found me. It's an unbelievable country kid. I said,

904
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 9: give me till the night. I said, because I think

905
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 9: I might see something in you that you don't see yourself.

906
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 9: And he gives us till May and I'll watch him.

907
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 9: He's the hardest worker on the team. He's out there

908
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 9: NonStop competing, bought into everything we asked him. And he'd

909
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 9: only had one hundred and seven yards for his career.

910
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 9: And his name is exaber L again and he won

911
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 9: the first round. But he's this extremely talented kid that

912
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 9: bought into everything we asked him to do. And a

913
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 9: great story about X were. Uh, We're sitting down draft

914
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 9: day and it's the NFL draft first round, and he's

915
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 9: he's projected the ever late first, early second. And on

916
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 9: draft day he's out on the I'm watching looking at

917
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 9: my window and I'm watching him and Leonor Sellers run

918
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 9: routes on draft Day, and I just it was who

919
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 9: the kid is? He earned everything he got and just

920
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 9: had a great time at the South Carolina And the

921
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 9: second year, we have a quarterback that no one knows

922
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 9: and everyone's picking us to win four games. And when

923
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 9: I got there South Carolina, they weren't recruiting him. He

924
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 9: was committed to Syracuse. And I watched his tape and

925
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 9: Daniel appreciate this about the recruiting process and evaluation process.

926
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 9: He'd won everywhere. He'd been great soccer players, scored like

927
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 9: twenty nine goals in high school, which great. Yeah, great feet,

928
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 9: which obviously there's a comparison to quarterback play. I think

929
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 9: boxers people at the boxers because they always have a base.

930
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 9: Soccer players great feet move in the pocket. And he

931
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 9: had a pedigree of winning, and he'd overcome hard, he'd

932
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 9: tore a cl overcame hard things, and he was just

933
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 9: this rall raw kid. And I'm likealk In I'm like, hey,

934
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 9: why have we not offered this kind of like, well,

935
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 9: do you like him?

936
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 10: I'm like yeah.

937
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 9: So we go on and we got about ten days

938
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 9: to sign him. He's committed to Syracuse. And this kid,

939
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 9: he's not asked about nil, he's not asking about recruiting trips.

940
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 9: He's asked about protections, can you change protections? What's the

941
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 9: passing game look like? How are you going to develop me?

942
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 9: What's your year round process for developing quarterbacks? And we

943
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 9: get him and no one knows about him. Struggles for

944
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 9: about three games this year.

945
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 10: It was choppy. The first three or four game of

946
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 10: season he played.

947
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 9: Batting its old dominion. But then the last six weeks

948
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 9: of season he gets as hot as any quarterback and

949
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 9: in the in the conference, in the country. I think

950
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 9: he's the best quarterback in the country right now. And

951
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 9: just an unbelievable time getting coach little more sellers. I mean,

952
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 9: I'm unbelievable. I tell in the interview process, so I

953
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 9: don't know if I've told DJ this or not, but

954
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 9: they're like, hey, what would hold you off from taking

955
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 9: this job? It's a have state, like all the wins

956
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 9: and tradition and the brand like there's one thing. I

957
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 9: got to call the North Sellers and tell them I'm leaving, oh,

958
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 9: and that that was hard. And it's like you talked about,

959
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 9: the only thing that you struggle with me have an unbelievable,

960
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 9: unbelievable opportunity to sit in a chair like this and

961
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 9: represent the people that have come before me at this place.

962
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 9: But to make that phone call, but what I would

963
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 9: it's a blessing to have him in our lives and

964
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 9: text with him twenty minutes ago about the two minute

965
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 9: drill practice yesterday, because obviously I can't be there and

966
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 9: I'm here working and recruiting, but just so so fortunate

967
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 9: to have the people in my life that I've had,

968
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 9: the mentors I've had, and so blessed to be right

969
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 9: here right now.

970
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.

971
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: I hope you guys enjoyed this best of a chance

972
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: to hear some of the comments from some of the

973
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: top coaches and some of our interesting guys in college football.

974
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 3: Speaking of football, want to encourage you to check out

975
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: the Saturday triple header as the Chargers take on the

976
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: Patriots at one pm Eastern the Broncos they will take

977
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: on the Bengals at four thirty PM Eastern followed and

978
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: finished up with the Cardinals taking on the Rams. That

979
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 3: is an eight to fifty team PM Eastern, all on

980
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: NFL Network this Saturday. Well, I hope you guys all

981
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: had a wonderful Christmas, a happy holiday, and hope you

982
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: are enjoying this little break, a little time off to

983
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: enjoy family as we march towards the new year and

984
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: some tremendous football on the horizon. We appreciate you, we're

985
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: thankful for you, and we'll see you next time.

986
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: Right here on, Move the sticks.