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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Neukleman. This is a production of

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Speaker 1: the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where

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Speaker 1: we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f h

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Speaker 1: F Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear

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Speaker 1: that's designed to be as rugged as the place as

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Speaker 1: we explore.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good, I love Yeah, my wife gets mad. I'd

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Speaker 2: say a probably rather turkey out and breathe. There.

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Speaker 3: Nobody that's married and turkey hunts. They've all heard that.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty good. Bear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds good. Beard, Welcome to the Bear Grease Render.

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Speaker 4: It's Turkey Week.

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Speaker 1: It's it you guys may not have known it, but

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Speaker 1: it's Turkey week at Meat Eater. That's what I heard,

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Speaker 1: which means all turkey, all day, all week.

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Speaker 4: Non stop turkey action.

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Speaker 1: Non stop. Tune in for non stop turkey action. Sound

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Speaker 1: like a nineteen The turkeys don't stand a chance. We

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Speaker 1: are going to talk about turkeys today and it's time.

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Speaker 3: Holy cow.

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Speaker 1: Down here or depending on where you're at, we could

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Speaker 1: be up here for some people, but down here for

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Speaker 1: a lot of the country. In Arkansas, Man the Red

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Speaker 1: buds or budding. Did you notice that on the way

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Speaker 1: here came?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: Whenever I started on the interstate south, it was just

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Speaker 2: like green. Yeah yeah, it's not as green back home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Well it's uh, there are red buds out there.

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Speaker 1: What's happening? And it's a mess.

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Speaker 3: It's the same scenario when you get this south here,

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Speaker 3: back towards Riley, of towards Mountainburg. From there on south,

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Speaker 3: it's even twice as green as it is up this way.

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Speaker 1: I've heard somebody say that for every I believe it

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Speaker 1: was every ten miles south you drive, spring comes a

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Speaker 1: day earlier.

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Speaker 3: That's probably about right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's I don't know if that

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Speaker 1: distance is right, but I know you drive fifty miles

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Speaker 1: south of here and it is spring is way, and

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Speaker 1: you get you know, it just keeps amplifying whether you go.

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Speaker 1: But it's time, man. Uh, the when the red buds

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Speaker 1: start to pop, Turkey start to gobble. Have you heard

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Speaker 1: of turkey gobble yet this year?

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Speaker 5: Mo?

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Speaker 3: No, but I haven't been out to listen.

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Speaker 1: It hadn't been out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well we we have with us today. I've got most Shepherd,

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Speaker 1: longtime bear Grease favorite Turkey.

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Speaker 4: He's real greasy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's greasy. I've got Josh Lambridge, filmmaker Bear John Newcomb,

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Speaker 1: and Cameron Tidwell. Yes, sir from Missouri, Yes, sir, very

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Speaker 1: southern Missouri. You're almost Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: I'm almost Arkansas. Yep, yep. Grew up in pe Ridge, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: peer Ridge, Arkansas.

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Speaker 3: And then he left the state.

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Speaker 2: Then I left and found I left for the turkeys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And my wife's from Missouri, the fact that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, just as a little introduction, Moe and Cam are

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Speaker 1: arch rivals at the annual Black Bear Bonanza al Hoodolph.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy when he doesn't show up.

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Speaker 1: They know, for multiple years y'all competed against each other,

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Speaker 1: and there's there's always this big pool of people that

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Speaker 1: are doing a natural Voice alhu which we have with

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Speaker 1: the Natural Voice Alhoot competition at the Black Bear Bonanza,

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Speaker 1: and the it's a blind judging panel, and they're probably

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Speaker 1: gonna have to move me off the panel because I

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Speaker 1: did so much. I know who's calling. But there'll be

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Speaker 1: new people up there every year, and it's always the same.

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Speaker 1: It's been the same three.

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Speaker 3: Except when I wasn't there last year and the year

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Speaker 3: before Moe and Brian were not in it, and then

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Speaker 3: it was like taking candy from a baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I won.

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Speaker 1: The second time, Yeah, so you've won that content.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have beat Mo and Brian once. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: then the second time they were not there.

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Speaker 3: I think I think read you beat me though that

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Speaker 3: year before that is because after it all, I was

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Speaker 3: talking claim he said, I kind of recognized your al

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Speaker 1: I was penalizing you.

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Speaker 3: No, no, that's not true.

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Speaker 1: But Mo, you've come in second place like multiple.

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Speaker 3: Times, yeah, three times, three times.

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Speaker 2: That it's pretty consistent of won twice.

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Speaker 1: And then what's Brian's last name? Cobb Cobb, brianbb and.

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Speaker 2: He's won, He's won two times. I've won twice and

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Speaker 2: coming and three times.

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Speaker 4: And Moe's always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

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Speaker 3: But you got to be pretty good to place the

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Speaker 3: same time every year.

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Speaker 4: True.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, uh no, bears getting a pretty good ol

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Speaker 1: hoot getting there, getting there. Maybe one day you'll be

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Speaker 4: But if you just cruise down the road in your truck,

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Speaker 1: About I'll tell you the most like developmental time in

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Speaker 1: my owl hooting journey was whenever a bunch of owls

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Speaker 1: flew up to me and they just started like hooting

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Speaker 1: I mean, they like knew I was there, but I

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Speaker 1: was just like replicating them. Yeah, I would say my

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Speaker 1: ole hoot like got a lot better. Progressed quite a

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Speaker 1: bit just from listening to real owls, oh one percent.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're easy to call in. We've had an

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Speaker 1: owl that's actually been coming to our house.

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Speaker 5: Mo.

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Speaker 3: That's that.

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Speaker 1: I just stepped out of the porch the other night

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Speaker 1: and heard him about three hundred yards away, and I

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Speaker 1: owled and came back in the house, and you know,

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes later, he's in one of these trees like

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Speaker 2: I called it an owl listen for turkeys. Really yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: I actually have it on video on my phone. But

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Speaker 2: he started hooting turkey's goblin and I could hear him

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Speaker 2: getting closer, and he, I mean he flew, he just

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Speaker 2: landed right above me this morning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where the turkey's answering him?

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Speaker 2: Uh, they were answered me, and then they'd flown down

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Speaker 2: and by the time he was amped up, they'd stopped goblin.

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Speaker 1: How many did you hear this morning too? Too? Did

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Speaker 1: they gobble pretty good?

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Speaker 2: They gobbled really well this morning. Actually it's crisp and uh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they gobbled good today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So what's the earliest you've ever turkey hunted? Mo

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Speaker 1: legally legally.

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Speaker 3: Serious? Think?

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Speaker 1: No, have you ever hunted Mississippi?

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Speaker 3: I've never hunted Mississippi, but I've hunted, Uh, I've hunted

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Speaker 3: in Oklahoma's every year ago the season opened the it

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Speaker 3: was a twenty something of March, and then the earliest

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Speaker 3: I've ever hunted darkest all I used to open all

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Speaker 3: the time on April the first. So that's the earliest

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Speaker 3: dates I've ever turkey hunted is Yeah, is April the first?

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Speaker 3: And other than youth hunts, now I have I'll member

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Speaker 3: back that up years ago when I and I still

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Speaker 3: take youth hunts out. But uh, there's been a time

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Speaker 3: or two where the youth hunt was a full week

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Speaker 3: ahead of our season. We don't in April the first,

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Speaker 3: So the youth hunt was, you know, the twenty March

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Speaker 3: twenty sixth, twenty fifth, twenty sixth something other of march.

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Speaker 3: So I have I have taken youth youth kids out

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Speaker 1: Have you ever hunted Florida?

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Speaker 2: Never hunted Florida, But I have killed turkey Mississippi hunted

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Speaker 2: there one time. It's the only place I've ever hunted

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Speaker 2: where I the gobbler. Never heard of Gobble, called him

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Speaker 2: up cold, no seen him, put the stock on him.

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Speaker 3: Killed, Yeah, bush com Oni, sure did.

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Speaker 1: Sure, there's man, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any shame in bushwhacking one.

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Speaker 2: If it if it's just what it takes, that is well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you'd have killed one. There was

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Speaker 2: a flock of him and they wouldn't do nothing. So

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Speaker 2: I just there was literally so like it was a

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Speaker 2: would like flood it for waterfowl hunting. So it was

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Speaker 2: huge levees and there was one tree out and that

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Speaker 2: standing underneath that tree. So I just ran and got

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Speaker 2: he was right here, and he took off run and

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Speaker 2: I shot him about thirty five yards, got him, got him.

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Speaker 3: Got him.

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Speaker 1: Well, Josh, you've you've you've never had it out of state,

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Speaker 1: not out of state. No, yeah, hey, I gotta show

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Speaker 1: y'all this. I gotta show y'all this. Uh hey, mo,

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Speaker 4: Of that who whoo?

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Speaker 3: Who is that? Looks like mister Clay Newton.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, this is the Phelps Prime cuts.

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Speaker 3: Uh Diephram probably gonna tell me next that was named

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Speaker 3: after you or something that.

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Speaker 1: I'm choking up over here that my name's on that call.

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Speaker 1: Me and Jason Phelps we really worked on he sent me.

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Speaker 1: I told him what I wanted in a call. I

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Speaker 1: basically wanted the best of both worlds, which which was,

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Speaker 1: to me, a call that I could purr on real

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Speaker 1: light perr and KICKI run, but also had like some

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Speaker 1: real raspy yelps. And I'm not the best caller in

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Speaker 1: the world. I mean, I'm really the best caller here.

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Speaker 3: But ford's your sharkout throwing around that way chair.

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Speaker 1: I don't glam to be the best turkey collar in

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Speaker 1: the world. But uh, but I I like to call

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Speaker 1: turkeys and I used to. I probably used to be

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Speaker 1: am today. But uh but I wanted I wanted one

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Speaker 1: that I could really let me. Let's see see how

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Speaker 1: this translates to podcasting.

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Speaker 5: Ah h yeah, let's hear some soft pearse.

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Speaker 2: Now that's a soft as I got there, you go.

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Speaker 1: I like it, though, And I like that it's a brown,

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Speaker 1: a brown call. I don't. I don't like a call

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Speaker 1: that's uh colored like a turkey's head.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, all these really bright calls, and and you know,

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Speaker 1: we make some of them, uh and I I told,

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Speaker 1: I told Jason that we need to make them.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: They're harder to see if you lose them on the ground.

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Speaker 1: But like that coffee down on the.

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Speaker 4: Ground and you're searching for it, that's Jill's.

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Speaker 1: Gary Nucomb taught me when I was a kid not

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Speaker 1: to use a blue mouth turkey call, because you know,

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Speaker 1: you're carrying around your mouth. I mean sometimes, I mean, you,

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Speaker 1: God forbid somebody do this. But it happens where you

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Speaker 1: Look, they would just leave the pelot in there.

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Speaker 4: If they weren't lead.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't incapacitated or anything. He just has pelots in him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people get killed an older man.

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Speaker 6: An older man had shot him, saw something white or

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But these new heavy loads, boy, it seems it's Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know, are people that carry a fan on public land?

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's very It's risky. It's pretty risky. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: What do you think about fan in Turkeys? Just like

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I've done

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Speaker 2: Normally just don't have to. I don't like carrying them,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in the same boat as Cam. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I read As far as myself, I hardly, I hardly

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Speaker 1: You're on thick woods, you're not a lot of field edges, and.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I don't hunt hardly, unless, like I said,

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Speaker 3: I sometimes I take you on some private name where

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Speaker 3: I have permission to hunt. But I hardly every hunted myself. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like I've got a mother in law that she'll be

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Speaker 3: to go this year, but I've took her in years past,

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Speaker 4: S awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's there's there's an ethical question about

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Speaker 4: What are they?

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Speaker 1: What do they call they do? They'll call it reaping,

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Speaker 2: It's what you crawl up on them. You know, he's

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Speaker 3: When he's sitting out there in the middle of a

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of people that really get worked

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Speaker 3: People?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's illegal in a couple of states.

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Speaker 2: It is, Yeah, and more states are making it illegal,

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Speaker 2: especially on public land, because it is dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Is it effective, dude, Yeah, it's effective.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's highly effective. That's part of the that's part

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Speaker 1: that's not turkey hunting. Yes, anytime people start talking about

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like mojo decoys on duck hunting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: don't think that's true, but the average turkey gun being

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Speaker 2: Fifty Well with TSS and three and a half inch

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Speaker 2: twelve gauges or ten gauges even you can shoot a

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Speaker 2: that's where I wouldn't want to do that myself.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: I like to call the turkey in, you know, that's

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Speaker 3: I like to see their eyeballs.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: But does it not depend on how bad a turkey

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not going to judge you.

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Speaker 1: Well, see, that's just the thing. I mean, it's it's like,

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Speaker 1: I think the range of turkey. I mean, the reason

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Speaker 3: Two reason safety and limit your range on how far

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like, is it even spring turkey hunting

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Speaker 2: But I mean at the same time, everyone's heard the

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Speaker 2: You know, let's say the vast majority aren't fanning or

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Speaker 2: people loved a turkey hunt. That's why they're part of

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Speaker 1: I wonder if that's really true, though, I belik you

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Speaker 1: percent of people. I mean, it's awfully convenient because that's

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Speaker 1: a good fishing statement to mister Kanp, well.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not. That's don't take it them. You know what

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Speaker 3: You know I do. I agree with him, but I

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Speaker 3: Mister nukeombe.

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Speaker 4: Using an idle addle.

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Speaker 3: But what I was going to say was, I think

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Speaker 3: it's more in my opinion, a seventy five twenty five percent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: No that I know that was your even like YouTube,

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Speaker 2: You know you figured it out yourself. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's what you guys do. You know, you

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Speaker 3: To make people to learn, people learn, you know, can

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Speaker 2: I mean it it definitely speeds up the process in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah it is. It really is a different

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Speaker 1: long as we're meeting our management goals, it's it's hard

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Speaker 1: have done it. I'm usually just hunting in woods where

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't be above it. Bo, what are

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Speaker 1: your turkey plans for this year? Are you going out

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start my season out with the Arkansas Youth Hunt.

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Speaker 3: I've got a ten year old boy I'm gonna take out.

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Speaker 3: It's never been turkey hunting before. I'm gonna take him.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'll probably just get taken one of

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Speaker 3: on the sixteenth and hunt the sixteenth, seventeenth, and maybe

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00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 3: the eighteenth if I don't have any luck the first

443
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 3: couple of days, I'm gonna stay a third morning and hunt,

444
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna come back for Easter here at home.

445
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 3: They are Easter thing at home, and then I'm gonna

446
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 3: hunt a couple of days opening our season here. So

447
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 3: that's my plans right now. So nice, good on public land.

448
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 6: So yeah, I am going to Kentucky to hunt some

449
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 6: turkeys with a with a couple of guests we had

450
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 6: on here for the renders from the Tobacco Wars. They

451
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 6: were generous enough to invite me to go hunting. And

452
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 6: then on the twenty sixth, I'm gonna be hunting a

453
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 6: Missouri turkey with mister Cameron todwell Man.

454
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: Josh is getting all the invites now ever since ever

455
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: since I mean Horizon with my mustache, people coming in

456
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: and they meet uh, they meet Brent and Josh, and

457
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: Brent and Josh get all the invites and everything.

458
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 3: Play don't get invited for nothing.

459
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 4: No, he just has to go to Alaska the hunt goats.

460
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, so you're going with Cam going to camp,

461
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 4: going to camp. Fine.

462
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Last year Demi who got second now contest I

463
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: had with her and her husband and called in a

464
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 2: turkey for her. That was fun last year. I like,

465
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: you know, that's one of the good things in Missouri.

466
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

467
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the good things about that event

468
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 2: is meeting people. I like to see the same people

469
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: every time.

470
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: Like, well, you know, could well I'm kind of changing

471
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: the subject just a little bit. What would be what

472
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: do you think let's go around the let's go around

473
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: the room here. What is the epicenter of American turkey

474
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: hunting in terms of a state, Like if you just

475
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: had to say this is not not the best, not

476
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: the place you'd go to kill a turkey, but the

477
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: cultural epicenter, Like if you just had to pick one state,

478
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: where would it Where? Where would it be?

479
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 3: Mo On everything I've read or watched or heard over

480
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: the years, Uh, I would probably say Missouri.

481
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: Missouri, they have Uh and.

482
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 3: I've never hunted, but I'm just saying if I took

483
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: my mother to be no turkey's left, that's right, he'd

484
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 3: kill them all.

485
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: Missouri.

486
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say Missouri because I've heard of good hunts,

487
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: great hunts in Missouri when I was a little kid,

488
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: for even and I started turkey hunt.

489
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think they had They have some of

490
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: the biggest harvests in the country. Yeah, Bear, what do

491
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: you think, Well, I've only ever hunted in Arkansas, but

492
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: from what I've heard and what you said on the podcast,

493
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: you've probably indoctrinated me. But I think Mississippi. Mississippi. Now,

494
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: why why would you think such a crazy thing? Well,

495
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: all the turkey hunters I know from Mississippi seemed to

496
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: be pretty are really good. Yeah, it's like a seems

497
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: to be like a religion. Yep, yep. And that's my

498
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: only that's my only real exposure to any other state.

499
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean, other than I guess Missouri. Didn't have a

500
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: father that took you all over the country as a kid.

501
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 4: You just made him Arkansas public. That's it.

502
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: That's what my dad did too. No, my dad took

503
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: me to Missouri when I was a senior in high

504
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: school in Mississippi, I killed a turkey. Well, I wasn't

505
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: in Mississippi. I hunted Mississippi. Uh but what about what

506
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: about you cam?

507
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: Where is so? I think there's two different ways to

508
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: think about it. Missouri is one of them. You know,

509
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: that's where a lot of reintroduction happened came from. Missouri

510
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: started out there. It started out there, you know. But

511
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: you hear a lot of people talk about Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia,

512
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I've never hunted Alabama. I've hunted Mississippi.

513
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: But down there, you know, along that line, it's a

514
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: lot of good turkey hunters and people that love it

515
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: get it, you know what I mean? Ye yep, down there, yep, yep.

516
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 6: Josh, Well, just in the you know, having been the

517
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 6: producer part of the Bear Grease podcast and interviewing people

518
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 6: in Mississippi, everybody talks about turkey hunt.

519
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 4: I mean it's like they deer hunt.

520
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 6: They you know that, you know, we got got they

521
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 6: got a bear program down there, but everybody talks about

522
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 6: turkey hunting. And so I feel like, of all the

523
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 6: people I've talked to, that's where the that's where it

524
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 6: seems to be ingrained in outdoors Min's turkey hunters.

525
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well and that and you're right, Bar, That's what

526
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: I've always said, is that I feel like Mississippi is

527
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: the cultural epicenter. That doesn't mean that that's true. I

528
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: just I think if you looked at the number of

529
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: people that have written turkey books and write about it

530
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: and just the way it's kind of handled down there,

531
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: I feel like it's uh. I feel like I feel

532
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: like Mississippi has a run. But I think it'd be

533
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: between Missouri. Are you in Mississippi? And that doesn't mean

534
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: that there's not as good as turkey hunters or people

535
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: love them just as much in Alabama and Georgia and

536
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: even in Arkansas. But those two I would say those

537
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: two places Mississippi.

538
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 3: If I picked the second state, I would have said

539
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: Mississippi because, like I said, before I ever started turkey

540
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: hunting and got interested in hunting, all you could do

541
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: is just read books about stuff, and in Missouri and

542
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: then a lot of stuff from Mississippi. You'd read about

543
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: hunters from Mississippi, and then and then it just seemed

544
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: like those two states were, like you said, there, that

545
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: seemed like the you hear more. I did when I

546
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: was growing up, way back in the Stone Age.

547
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the place to seene Moe was once calling up

548
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: a turkey and a groundsloth walked up on him. Had

549
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: to shoo it off.

550
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: I shoot it off. I didn't want to shoot it,

551
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: you know, because there was only two three up left.

552
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: Uh. Well, Mo, what was the best hunt you had

553
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: last year?

554
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: I gotta think for a minute. Probably the funnest time

555
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 3: I had, because it was tough last year, But probably

556
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: the funnest time I had didn't involve killing a turkey.

557
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

558
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: I took a friend of mine that had never turkey

559
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 3: hunted before, and we got out and it was the

560
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: second day we'd went. It was opening the season, and

561
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: we'd heard birds the first day but never got any

562
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: within shotgun range, Javis. And second day, we make a

563
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: long story short, we got on a bird. He answered us,

564
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: and it was you know, it wasn't early of mornings

565
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: on up in the day, And so we walked towards

566
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: him a wayst and I called again. He answered again,

567
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: and so I got us to spot and I said,

568
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: let's set up here. And there was an old like

569
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: an old fence or something O there. I think it

570
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,239
Speaker 3: was like an old web wire fence or something other,

571
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: but it was just pieces and parts of it. And

572
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: I looked at that and I seen where I said.

573
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: I thought, well, I'm in the range of that, and

574
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: I put my friend about ten yards in front of me.

575
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: I said, let's just sit right here, and I backed

576
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: up there and started calling. It didn't take this few minutes.

577
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: I seen the gobler come and he come in. He

578
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: strutted right up to that fence, and I was waiting

579
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: for my friend to shoot it. I couldn't see what

580
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: he was doing other than he had, you know, the

581
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: gun up on his knees. He didn't shoot anything. Finally,

582
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: the turkey quit strutting. He just kind of ducked under

583
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: that fence and stepped out on those side and puffed

584
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 3: up again right there and just you know, struted out

585
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: and everything. I thought, okay, it's time to shoot. It's

586
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: time to shoot, you know. That put that turkey about

587
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: probably thirty five yards of him, and and he kept

588
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: sitting there, and it turned and started strutting kind of

589
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: I think, to our right, and so it was moving

590
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: and past him, and I thought, well, if it gets

591
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: far enough away from him if for some reason he

592
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: didn't shoot it, I think I'm gonna go ahead and

593
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: take the turkey. Well, it stopped in and kind of

594
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: run its head up like they did, and looked around,

595
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 3: and then it just dropped its head and took off,

596
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: walking straight away like that. And after the hunt was over,

597
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: I got up and he's down there to where he's sitting,

598
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: and I said, hey, what happened? He said it was

599
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: close enough, wasn't it. He didn't think it was close enough.

600
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: And but that was a that was a really fun hunt.

601
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: Because we're we're good friends now and stuff. We worked

602
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: together for a few years and and it was a

603
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: fun hunt. And and he's hooked on turkey hunting now,

604
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: so that he's.

605
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: Going, were you did you? How did you handle that?

606
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: Did you kind of chuckle about or did were you

607
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: kind of upset about it? I mean, I know you

608
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: weren't mad at him. I just laughed at him, so yeah,

609
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: we would have bothered me, man, it be all mad.

610
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: It didn't bother me at all.

611
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: Watched it walk off.

612
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just watched it walk off and everything, and

613
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: I said, hey, we'll get another and and then we

614
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: got we went Then the next morning, the last day

615
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: of our hunt that was hunting together and UH got

616
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: two birds of goblin and they were coming right to us.

617
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: This comes back to what we've talked about. The first show.

618
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: I hadn't heard no other calls. I hadn't heard no

619
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: hens or anything that I could tell was and these

620
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: turkeys were just out of our sight, kind of a

621
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: cross a draw, and they were just you know, gobble, gobble, gobble,

622
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: gobble at each other or gobbled us. That about that

623
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: time I heard one of them pert real loud and

624
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: then boom, boom boom, like three shots, and two guys

625
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: were running towards them. Had snuck up in on them there.

626
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if they hadn't heard us or what

627
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: they're doing, but anyway, they shot at them on the run,

628
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: didn't kill kill the turkey's eight turkeys running flew off

629
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: and that hunt was over. So but but that that

630
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: second day, I'll tell you on that that was probably

631
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: my favorite favorite hunt of the of the year. Was

632
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: out there. I called in several young birds last year

633
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: that I passed up. I was just had my mindset

634
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: because our turkey numbers are low, that I was only

635
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: gonna take one of it as a big mature. I

636
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: could tell it was a four or five year old gobbler.

637
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: And I never called any in like that down here

638
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: that I could get a shot at.

639
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: But man talking about a turkey going under the fence.

640
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: This actually happened two years ago. But I was hunting

641
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: with Lake Pickle and Jordan blissed Done in Mississippi, and

642
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: we we heard birds at daylight and we went after him,

643
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: and we made three different On the third set up

644
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: that morning, these birds were kind of just hung up

645
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: in this this little pocket and really wouldn't move much.

646
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: And we started on one side and set up and

647
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: called and they'd answer us, but never comes. So we

648
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: made a big circle around him and basically got to

649
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: the edge of the property and we called, and you know,

650
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: one of them cut us off, and he called it

651
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: and he gobbled again, and we knew they were coming.

652
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: So we sat down and I'm twenty yards from a

653
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: fence line and a pasture that's not ours, So we're

654
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: on our land, but you're.

655
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: Twenty eight twenty yards from and we're twenty.

656
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Yards and we're looking into this kind of open field

657
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: that we can't hurt.

658
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: Turkeys live on property lines yeah.

659
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

660
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: And so as I remember it, Jordan was back behind

661
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: us and he was doing most of the calling, and

662
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: me and Lak a kind of set up, you know,

663
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: right in range of the turkeys. But I was supposed

664
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: to be the shooter on this deal. And uh, sure enough,

665
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: the turkey goes quiet after he cut us off like twice,

666
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: and we know, we feel like he's coming. And sure

667
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: enough I see him coming up the fence line on

668
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: the other side of the fence, and so I'm just

669
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: like fixated on that. Here's this turkey and I can't

670
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: shoot it, you know. And he he comes to just

671
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: like perfect gun rangement on the other side of the fence,

672
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna shoot him, like period.

673
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: And uh.

674
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: And and I think that Lake clucked or Lake scratched

675
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: the leaves he reached down, and I was fixated on

676
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: the turkey looking and I just hear Lake behind me,

677
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: and I hear leaves scratching, and I go, he's looking

678
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: at us. Quit moving. I thought Lake was like just

679
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: like moving around, and Lake was knew exactly what he

680
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: was doing. He had his hand on the turkey, couldn't

681
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: see him and was scratching the lead. I thought he

682
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: was just like moving around, you know, and I'm like, like, credit, credit,

683
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: well that scratch and turn that turkey and he dips

684
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: under that fence and comes up on the other side.

685
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: And somehow I my eyes were playing tricks with me

686
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: still on which side of the fence he was is

687
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: imagine a five strand Barbara fence in this turkey just

688
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: like within three feet of it, And I was like,

689
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: pretty sure I saw him go under it, but they

690
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: just kind of just kind of glided under it like water.

691
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: And so the turkey's just like right on top of

692
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: us in Lake, and I go, is he on our

693
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: side of the fence? And Lake's like, shoot, and I go,

694
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: that's not what I asked you, Lake, I asked you,

695
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: is the turkey you know? That's what I'm thinking. Yeah,

696
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: And I'm like, is he on our side of the fence?

697
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: And he goes, he's on our side of the fence, shoot,

698
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, And the turkey's just he's just right there,

699
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, just right on the fence line, but on

700
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: our side. And uh, anyway, Yeah, that that fence about

701
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: got me about got me.

702
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 4: Are you hunting with a twenty gauge turkey?

703
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: Hunt with the twin guy.

704
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, mo out with the twelve hunt with a twelve,

705
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: twelve hunting with a twenty last year, but usually with

706
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: a twelve. Okay, what was your favorite hunt from last year?

707
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: Opening day? Last year? I out with my best friend,

708
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 2: my cousin Tanner every year, and uh, we've went into

709
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: the same public piece three years in a row and

710
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 2: killed four turkeys out of it. So, I mean, it's

711
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: pretty good, but it's hard to get to. You got

712
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: to float upstream and you can't get a big boat

713
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: in there. And my brother and her other friend went

714
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: further down and their story gets very interesting. My brother

715
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: got bit by a snake, but they killed two turkeys. Wow,

716
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: everything's fine. But anyway back to me and Tanner. The

717
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: first turkeys that we set up on, you know, they

718
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: were on the private but they typically worked back into

719
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 2: this bottom. Because we've been there, we know the area.

720
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: Boom right at daylight. That's like, crap, somebody's shut on

721
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: the private land killed the turkey. First time I've ever

722
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: heard private turkey land turkey hunters there. It's like, well,

723
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: all right, so move down the creek bottom to the

724
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: next knob. Turkey's goblin boom. Another Turkey gets killed, all right,

725
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: start working further down the creek bottom and I call

726
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: and Tanner said, Turkey answered you. I said, no, it didn't.

727
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: He said, call again, He'll hit you again. Called sure enough,

728
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: across the branch. Turkey gobbled up on a knob. So

729
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: we start making our way. We cross the strike creek branch.

730
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 2: I get to this flat's the prettiest like river bottom ever,

731
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: lot of little trees. Call Turkey gobbles again, like okay,

732
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: and we've killed a turkey on this exact spot before.

733
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: It's a old cut road through here, and it's real

734
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: thick on this side, and then it opens back up. Well,

735
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: we get as close as we think we can get

736
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: to him, and Tanner's supposed to shoot first, so he

737
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: gets about sixty yards from me and gets so up.

738
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: I back up, and the whole time we're walking in

739
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: the leaves at Turkey just he's hearing us in the

740
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: leaves and he thinks that, you know, we're a group

741
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 2: of hens. I get sat down on this little sweet

742
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 2: gum tree. Tanner's up there. I can hear the turkey gobble,

743
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: and he's working his way back down into the bottom

744
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: from that knob. Well, I'm watching Tanner and I'm calling.

745
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: He's just sitting there and I see him start bearing

746
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: down on his gun, so I'm like, this turkey is

747
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: about to get smoked. Then I see him about a

748
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: couple of minutes later, he eases off the gun and

749
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: he looks at me and he does this very slightly.

750
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: Like the.

751
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: Have hunted together a ton a lot. I think he

752
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: wants me to call. I think the turkey is drifting off,

753
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: so I just right to my right, and I'm a

754
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: right handed guy. I thought that is not what he

755
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: wanted me to do. He's telling me, you shoot the turkey,

756
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: So no, because it's too thick. But I can hear

757
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: the turkey drumming, but sometimes it's hard to gauge where

758
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: they're at exactly. So anyway, I start really looking, and

759
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: all of a sudden I could see him and he's

760
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: slipping through here, coming right to me. Hm, whole way

761
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: just drumming. He comes around there and he gets to

762
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: about where you are from me, and he's about ten

763
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: yards from me looking here. He goes, ah, right in

764
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 2: my face and my gun sitting like this, and I'm

765
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: just like.

766
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: Oh, you didn't have your gun picked up no, and

767
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: I can't move.

768
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: And this is where experience helps. If I'd have been younger,

769
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: i'd have just tried to swing. But I knew if

770
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: I just wait, because he's strutting a lot, eventually that

771
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: thing will turn and when he turns away from me,

772
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: I can make a big move. So he gets, I

773
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: mean like five yards from me, and he puts, And

774
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: when he puts, Tanner calls at the turkey. The turkey

775
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: calms right back down, and he starts strutting and then

776
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: he turns completely away from me. And as soon as

777
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: he turns away from me, I swing, and I have

778
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: a red dot on my gun and the butt of

779
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: the gun was on the center of my chest, but

780
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: I got that red dot on his head, pulled the

781
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: trigger and he was done at like fifteen yards. That

782
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: was my best tant last year. Yeah, And last year

783
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: was Yeah, last year was a good year. It was

784
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: a little slow compared to normal, but it was good

785
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: that That is a good story. Yeah, it was a

786
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: good one.

787
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: That is a good story.

788
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: Bear.

789
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: We know your best story from last year, as you

790
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: told on the podcast. Yeah, yeah, Bushwhack Turkey was I

791
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: was hunting public land. I'd found some turkeys on public land.

792
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: You know, I scattered before I foundin Wait a minute,

793
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: you can't. You're gonna tell the story. Yeah, you better

794
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: not tell this one because you're gonna you're gonna tell

795
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: it for the actual podcast. Oh really yeah?

796
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

797
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I'll tell a different one that happened last year.

798
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: Okay.

799
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: I walked about two and a half miles into a

800
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: spot that I knew was a big bluff and you

801
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: could hear, like you can see way off there was

802
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, a big mountain off to the left, and

803
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: there was a big mountain right in front, and then

804
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: I was on kind of like the corner of another mountain.

805
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: So it made it was like a river was flowing

806
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: and then you know, creek met into it, mountains on

807
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: all sides of it. So it created this like really

808
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: big bowl that you could hear really good done into.

809
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: But it was just like way back there. And so

810
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: I hiked in there at like eleven o'clock at night

811
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: because we had had to do something in town, and

812
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: so I drove out there at night, hiked back in

813
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock, stayed the night, and then I woke up

814
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: that morning and out hooted off this big bluff where

815
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: you could see real far, you know, expecting to hear

816
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: a turkey down there in the bottom. And I heard

817
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: a gobble back behind me about maybe two hundred and

818
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: fifty yards and so, and I had the self bow.

819
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention that I had a self bow,

820
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: and I was hunting with a decoy. So I had

821
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: like a backpack with you know, Dave Smith decoy in it.

822
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: And so I go back over to where I heard

823
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: that gobble and I get about one hundred yards from

824
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: where I thought I heard it. I set out the

825
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: decoy and I called, and two gobblers just light up,

826
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: like just right there. And so, I mean, I was

827
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: thinking it's perfect. I got buried back in a cedar

828
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: tree and I kind of broke some limbs and had

829
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: the hind decoy out ten yards from me, and those

830
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: gobblers were just like goblin. And I only called once,

831
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: and you could just tell they were just out there

832
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: strutting and they were just like getting upset, but I couldn't.

833
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: They just wouldn't break, and after a little while they

834
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: quit goblin, and so I just kind of sat there

835
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: and was gonna wait them out. I actually think I

836
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: texted you. I think you were on the Meat Eater tour.

837
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: You're on the Live tour. Oh yeah, And I texted you.

838
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: It was like, I've got some birds out here that

839
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm waiting out. And I waited for probably a good

840
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: half hour and they didn't come, and so I gave

841
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: just like a couple of real soft calls and scratched

842
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: the leaves and I never heard them again. Okay, so

843
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: the gobblers were gone. And I waited there for about

844
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: a full hour never saw them. So I start walking

845
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: back kind of towards my truck because it was just

846
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: a one day hunt, and I get to this saddle

847
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: that was just covered in turkey tracks and I'd seen

848
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: deer going through there and I've seen bear tracks in there,

849
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: so it's just like a good spot for critters to be.

850
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: And uh, I called a little bit just to see

851
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: if I could hear anything. And I set out the

852
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: decoy and sat next to a tree and waited there

853
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: for a while, and eventually I was like, well, i'll

854
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: take an It was late morning, and I was like,

855
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: I'll take a nap, and then I walked to the

856
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: truck because you know, it's a long way, and so

857
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: I fell asleep, and I don't know how long I

858
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: was asleep, but I woke up because I was hearing

859
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: something that I thought was like a woodpecker hitting my

860
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: tree that I was on, And that's what I thought

861
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: whenever I was like half asleep, I was like, I

862
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: heard the recollection of this story, and uh so I

863
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: kind of like wake up. And as I started to

864
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: like kind of come to like you know, the transition

865
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: from like sleeping and thinking you hear something to like reality,

866
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: I realized, that's a turkey like right next to me.

867
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: What was he doing?

868
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 3: It was a hen?

869
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: And so I like rolled over and there was a

870
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: hen like three yards from me, just clucking, walking looking

871
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: and clucking. And I had that decoy out there, and

872
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: uh anyway, she just kind of walked on by and

873
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: I went back.

874
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 3: To the truck.

875
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: Never heard the goblins and never heard the gobblers. Never

876
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: heard the gobblers, but I took a nap into hen.

877
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say that the hen

878
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: was pecking on your o sage self, bow, I bet

879
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: I know where where he was at. You recognize that

880
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: spot why he described this and this and this and

881
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: bear tracks and that sad though, ye.

882
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: Your spot burned by most shepherd spot burned. That's really

883
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 3: good turkey spot in the camera.

884
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: What's your Do you have like a favorite story that

885
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: you would tell that that like just to have to

886
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: tell one.

887
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: I have a lot of I mean I have turkey hunted.

888
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: It's always involved my cousin Tanner, so I grew up

889
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: turkey hunting. My uncle is like Panner's dad is like

890
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 2: the best turkey hunter right now. Like whenever you think

891
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: of someone who's killed a lot of turkeys and know

892
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: what they're doing, woodsman, think of my own said, Well,

893
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: Brian owns a dairy farm in Missouri, and that's where

894
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: I cut my teeth and learn to turkey hunt first.

895
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 2: And a dairy farm is not the public land that

896
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: you guys start talking about. I mean it was good

897
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: turkey hunting and I haven't hunted there in years, you know,

898
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: kind of leave it for the kids. And like my

899
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: wife and Tanner's wife, well, me and Tanner we were

900
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: driving around the dairy farm one time and there's a

901
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: big sycamore tree off the corner of this road and

902
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: it's right before dark and we've seen some turkeys in

903
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 2: that tree, and we said, we're gonna kill these turkeys,

904
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: and I wanted to kill a turkey with my bow.

905
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: Never killed a turkey with my bow. Don't recommend bow

906
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: hunting for turkeys, but I wanted to. I was like,

907
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: I think it was a freshman in college. So anyway,

908
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: we get back to the house. We're like, we're gonna

909
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: set up down here. Brian's like, are you sure those

910
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: are turkeys? She said, yeah, that was turkeys, so okay,

911
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: so he calls it a covert night mission. You go

912
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: way after dark and we set up a blind for

913
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: my bow. Okay, got the blind all set up. We're like, man,

914
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 2: those turkeys are gonna fly down in this bottom and there,

915
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: so they're gonna get it. Well. The next morning, as

916
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: it started to get daylight, there were turkey buzzards. They

917
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: were not turkeys, but happenstance down the creek there was

918
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: two turkeys goblin. So we started calling lo and behold

919
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: here these two toms come. I draw back and I

920
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 2: shot its head off with my bow. That was cool.

921
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 2: So anyway, we're like high five and everything's awesome.

922
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 4: You know.

923
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: We go back to the house and in Missouri you

924
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: used to have to stop hunting at one so Brian

925
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: was like, hey, you guys, there's a lot of time left.

926
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: You and ten or go try to shoot another one.

927
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 2: So we just hung my turkey up in the tree

928
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 2: by the house. We go and we go get set

929
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: up over on the other end of the farm, and

930
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: we fall asleep for like hours. We wake up because

931
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 2: a turkey gobble. I heard a turkey gobblins. Wake up, Tanner,

932
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: there's a turkey. There is no turkey.

933
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: Now, y'all back in the blind.

934
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: A different different spot, no, a different part of the farm. Gotcha, well,

935
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: lo and behold a turkey starts gobbling his absolute brain off.

936
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: I'm every breath. I've never heard a turkey gobble this much.

937
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: Just Andy Brown would say, and oh what to goblin

938
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: he'd done. And I'm telling you, Tanner, you know with

939
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: he we grew up. You know, it's like, wait, we call,

940
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: he knows where we're at. The turkey's gonna come up here.

941
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: And it was like twelve forty five and I told Tanna,

942
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 2: I said, Tanner, let's go kill that turkey. And he's

943
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: finally he was like, okay, we'll go kill him. So

944
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: we start off towards this turkey and we start going

945
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: down this little path and I'm when I say he's

946
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 2: gobbling every I mean legitimately, so we know right where

947
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: he's at. So we keep slipping and so Tanners in

948
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: front of me and he goes I see him, and

949
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you start hearing this, like, what

950
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: in the.

951
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: World is it?

952
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: This bald eagle is dive bombing this tom And that's

953
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: what that turkey's gobblin that the whole time. Just Tanner

954
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: slipped up there and rolled that dude. We got a

955
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: picture of both of us with them two turkeys. Really, yep, yep,

956
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: his turk I'll never forget. The turkey's head was purple

957
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 2: from from being frustrated. I guess it's full on purple.

958
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: It was not red, white and.

959
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: Blue with bald eagle dive was.

960
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: I thought you were about to say you got a

961
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: picture with both of them talking about the bald eagle

962
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: and no, no, I actually thought the turkey that he

963
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: shot the head off was going to like come back

964
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: to life, said riding the tree.

965
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 2: Nope, nope, that trust me, he was not going anywhere.

966
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: Wow, I've never I've never heard of a bald eagle.

967
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: Do you think he was? I mean he was trying

968
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: to catch that.

969
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: Back same year, Brian Fat my uncle Brian. He found

970
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: a dead gobbler with big towns in it. Huh a

971
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: bald eagle. Yep, thanks a lot, America.

972
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, hmm hmm. Mo, what's your what's your what's your

973
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: best best story? And you've told us several on the podcast,

974
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: but like if you just had to tell one, because

975
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: I've only got I've got one turkey story that I

976
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: tell and I've told it so many times I'm not

977
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: gonna tell it today. But my lightning bird story, sneaking

978
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: up on the bird and of pouring rain and just

979
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of you know, Bear was with me the night before.

980
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: It's like everything was just perfect. Well, what's the best

981
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: what's the best turkey story that you are? Your favorite?

982
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 5: Well?

983
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: I got to think through about two hundred of them,

984
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: so yeah, yeah, yeah, but I guess I guess one

985
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 3: of them would involve another story of not killing a turkey,

986
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: if that makes sense. It was on a youth hunt.

987
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: I took a kid, a young man on the youth hunt,

988
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: and we went into a spot we actually went into

989
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 3: a walk in area where you had to walk in,

990
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: and asked him if he could do it. Yeah, I

991
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 3: can do it. I'm fine, you know. So we went

992
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 3: into the walk in area, got in there daylight, heard

993
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: a couple of birds, but they didn't respond much. So

994
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 3: we walked and we walked and we called and we walked.

995
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 3: I think we stopped and eat some snacks and stuff.

996
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 3: And it was getting on up late morning, probably ten

997
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 3: or eleven o'clock, and I said, let's go around into

998
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: this big hollow around here, and there's a couple of

999
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: short ridges runs off. I said, a lot of times

1000
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 3: they'll be in there during the middle of the day.

1001
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 3: And sure enough, we got around there and I called

1002
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 3: and I heard a turkey. Then I heard another one,

1003
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 3: then I heard another one, and they were all in

1004
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: the same area. And I said, well, let's get right

1005
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: here on this little point. I said, you sit right

1006
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: here in front of me. And I didn't want him

1007
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 3: out of my he was he was, he was. I mean,

1008
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: you know, he had these hunter's head and all that,

1009
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 3: but I still want him right there close to me.

1010
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: So he was probably five foot in front of me

1011
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 3: against the tree, and I was right behind him in

1012
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 3: another tree. And I started working those birds, and then

1013
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: they congregated together like they do sometimes kind of together,

1014
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: but they were still separate on a couple of little ridges,

1015
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: and I'll forget. They just hushed up for a while,

1016
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 3: and I remember him kind of looking over his shoulders

1017
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: saying that. He said, where'd they go? And I said,

1018
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 3: they're still down there. I bet, I said, this way,

1019
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: we're gonna be patient. I don't remember how long it took,

1020
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: but finally one of them got fired up again, and

1021
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, I heard, like, you know,

1022
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: it's like three of them in a row, just ma'am.

1023
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: And they were sound like they were together then. So

1024
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: I was thinking, well, they made us be big Jake's,

1025
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: you know. I thought, well, still a Jake's, you know,

1026
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 3: legal for a kid here in Arkansas. And so I

1027
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 3: kept working them, and then I seen him come up

1028
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 3: on the ridge. Blow him down there, blow us. And

1029
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 3: it was three big old longbeards, I mean, dandy turkeys,

1030
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: and they just started working away. They'd kind of do

1031
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: like they do, they'd kind of pop at each other,

1032
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: you know, pop through. I know, everybody's turkey and see him,

1033
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 3: they'll popp at each other and they'll go back to strutting,

1034
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: and oh yeah. And it took a long time. Finally

1035
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: they got up there and I was watching him. He

1036
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: got his gun up on his knees and stuff, and

1037
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: they got closed. They was probably thirty thirty five yards

1038
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 3: of us, and they was right in front of him.

1039
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 3: I thought, he's got to have his gun right on

1040
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: one of them. And I waited till they kind of

1041
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 3: separated a little bit, and I thought, well, he's surely

1042
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 3: going to kill one of them, you know. And I

1043
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 3: just what I call I don't call it a putt

1044
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 3: or purd or whatever. I've done like three fast purse

1045
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: to make them raise their heads up. And I'd done

1046
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 3: that and they raised their heads up, and I was

1047
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 3: watching him this whole time, and I was ready for

1048
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 3: him to just go like that and shoot. Well, his

1049
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 3: gun was right there like this, and when I went

1050
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: pur purp like that, they raised their heads and I

1051
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: think they all three gobbled in unison, you know, and

1052
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 3: boom he shot. He did anybody's head down. He shot

1053
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: plum over the top of the turkeys, and they took

1054
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: off a flying run and took out of there. And

1055
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: I sat there for a little bit and I he's

1056
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: down their team, I said, I said, I guess you

1057
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: didn't get one of them, did you? He said no.

1058
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 3: I said, I don't know how I missed. I said,

1059
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: which one was you aiming at? And he said there

1060
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 3: a little bit, he said, I think the one in

1061
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 3: the middle. I said, where was you aiming at? He said,

1062
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: I think I never did look down.

1063
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: My sight.

1064
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: And you said, I think you're right.

1065
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we laughed about it. But it was a

1066
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: good lesson for him. And then I took him on

1067
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 3: hunts after that and he killed turkeys and stuff, so

1068
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: that was kind of a lesson for him too.

1069
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: So you talked about that them turkeys goblin like that

1070
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: with me and Tanner went to Nebraska one time and

1071
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: got permission from this farmer. He said, there was turkeys

1072
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: in this creek bottom right before dark. And you know

1073
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 2: we talked about earlier. Al hooton, Man, I am just

1074
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 2: hooting my brains off at the top of this regie.

1075
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: Nothing turns out bart Alis don't live in Nebraska. I

1076
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: would have thought that a turkey would gobble at that,

1077
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: but man, I was hooting my brains out. They would

1078
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: not answer me. Al hooting, how'd you get him to

1079
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: how'd you get him to gobble? That coyote? Howled at him.

1080
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 3: It was just it was just that's why they wouldn't gobble.

1081
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad Mo's not a judge. Yeah yeah,

1082
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: but man, that I've never heard, so, I mean, it

1083
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: was just right on top of each other. Yeah, and

1084
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: they've kind of gobbled weird out there. Yeah then Rio Mary, Yeah,

1085
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: all right.

1086
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: I want I want y'all to give me your your

1087
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: your best tip. So there's a lot of a lot

1088
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: of podcasts that you go and you'd get hunting tips.

1089
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: And I listened to some of those, and I like

1090
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: hunting tips. So we don't usually do a lot of

1091
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: like how to stuff on here. But uh, Cam, what

1092
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: would you what would you if you were just giving

1093
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,959
Speaker 1: a turkey hunter just a nugget of wisdom? What would

1094
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: you say to him and don't give me this generic

1095
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: stuff like just be patient and.

1096
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: Well I'll tell you this. Okay, I got two things. Okay.

1097
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 2: Number one is boot leather equals beards. Okay, I gotta walk,

1098
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: you gotta go. If you don't go, you're not gonna

1099
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: get him. This only way you learn is to hunt

1100
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 2: a lot of turkeys.

1101
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 3: Yep.

1102
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: Number two is pattern your gun. If you don't pattern

1103
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: your shotgun, I mean, my buddy Dusty, his dad, he

1104
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: missed like four turkeys in a row, So what is

1105
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: wrong with you? We shot his gun and it was like,

1106
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 2: oh yeah, you can't hit anything. What was it doing

1107
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: his choke to He was shooting like a modified choke

1108
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 2: and it was just too open. And at forty yards

1109
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: he just you know, wouldn't didn't have enough shot out there.

1110
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

1111
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: But that's my two tips.

1112
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 4: What distance do you pattern your gun at?

1113
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: Thirty five yards is where I pattern my gun. I

1114
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: feel like that gives me the best uh room for it.

1115
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I like a pretty more medium

1116
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 2: medium distance. Yeah, I like a pretty uniform, you know pattern.

1117
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: I shoot a red dot a lot of times, so

1118
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: it's pretty easy to side it in, and I like,

1119
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, some people like shoot at

1120
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: the neck. I like to put that dot right on

1121
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: the white cap that turkey's head. And so it's like

1122
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: I'm splitting the difference where some of the pattern goes highest,

1123
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: some of the pattern goes low, but the dead center

1124
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: it goes right where that turkey's head is. M m yep, Okay,

1125
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that.

1126
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 3: That's what I do is thirty five yards? Yep. Anybody

1127
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 3: that I haven't helped pattern their shotgun, I want them

1128
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: to shoot a thirty five yards yep yep.

1129
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: What's your tip?

1130
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 5: Mo?

1131
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: Uh?

1132
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 3: My main tip would probably be go when you can

1133
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 3: and don't do not go because of the weather. Do

1134
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 3: not not go because of the weather, because every time

1135
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: you're out there, that may be the time you get

1136
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,959
Speaker 3: your turkey. You know, whether it's raining, whether the wind's blowing,

1137
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 3: no matter what's going on. You can get frustrated when

1138
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: you hunt in different kinds of weather. But believe me,

1139
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 3: if I had not hunting because of weather conditions, there'd

1140
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: be a lot less turkey beards at my house.

1141
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1142
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: And keeps people out of the woods.

1143
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean a lot of times people don't go

1144
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 3: when it's so that's a good point there too. And

1145
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: then the other thing I agree with Cam on that

1146
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: is is don't be afraid, especially if you're hunting public land.

1147
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 3: You know, when you're limited private land, and like I said,

1148
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: I don't hardly ever hunt it. I'll take kids on

1149
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 3: it sometimes and stuff, but when you're on public land,

1150
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: just make plans to wear them boots soles out and

1151
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 3: just keep traveling, keep going and yep. And one other

1152
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 3: tip I will say is whether you're on private land

1153
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 3: or whatever, when you go into place. So many people

1154
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 3: I've hunted with or take with me. We'll go into

1155
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 3: a place, hunt our way all the way into place,

1156
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 3: end up place into place, and then I say, well,

1157
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 3: we you know, we ain't heard anything. Well let's go

1158
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 3: back to the truck. Let's go back to where we're at.

1159
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: I said, well, let's go back, But I said, let's

1160
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: hunt the same way we came in here.

1161
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: Yep.

1162
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: I don't have many turkeys I've killed come right at

1163
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: the exact same area I went in on.

1164
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: And a turkey maybe maybe heard you hur came in there.

1165
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: Later, had hens with him, wasn't interested at the time. Yep.

1166
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: That's good tip.

1167
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: And and in my opinion, that's what a lot of

1168
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: people make mistakes. They go into place hooting or doing

1169
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 3: some calling or anything. They just haul butt out of

1170
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: there and go right back to where and go and

1171
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 3: then go somewhere else. Like I said, I've killed a

1172
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: bunch of turkeys on my trips out.

1173
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: Great tip. That's a great tip. I'll tell you what

1174
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: my I have two tips.

1175
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 5: Uh.

1176
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: The first all of me is uh, is go with

1177
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: Loe or cam or bear.

1178
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: No, it is uh.

1179
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: It's partially the bootleader of the thing. But half a

1180
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: turkey hunt is just finding the turkey that you can

1181
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: call in. Yes, So you know, you might be hearing

1182
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: a turkey gobbles head off and he won't work, he

1183
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: won't work, he won't come, he shuts up, he goes

1184
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: the other way, and you know, you might mess around

1185
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: with that turkey for forever. And depends upon how much

1186
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: land you've got to hunt, if you're on public and

1187
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: or whatever. Half the time it's it's it's no one

1188
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: when to just keep moving because you might find one

1189
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: that's real hard to work. But over two ridges from there,

1190
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: you call and there's one eighty yards away that's just

1191
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: begging to come in. So you know, just finding because

1192
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: there's some turkeys that you're just not gonna kill that day.

1193
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: You know, you're just you're just probably not gonna kill

1194
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: him that day, And no one when that turkey is

1195
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: that turkey is a hard one, you might come back

1196
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: the next day and kill him. Just find my second tip.

1197
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: And this this is more of a I mean, I

1198
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: think for like a new hunter that's just trying to

1199
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: understand turkey hunting is that it's all about positioning and location.

1200
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: And so if you hear a turkey gobble and he'll

1201
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: enter you, but he won't come, what you got to

1202
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: do is reposition yourself in another location and call at

1203
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: him there and see if he'll come. And you know

1204
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: a lot of times you might reposition two or three

1205
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: times and finally you get in a spot and a

1206
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: little time has gone by, and I mean, he just

1207
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: comes right in, but it's after you've messed with him.

1208
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's like if you were just explaining

1209
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: turkey hunting to someone, you would say, the turkey's gobling

1210
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: and making noise, and you know where he's at, but

1211
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: he won't come. Well, go to point B and try

1212
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: to call him there. Go to point C, and I mean,

1213
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: you know, that's obviously with a turkey that's being vocal

1214
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 1: but probably got hens or sometimes they don't have hens

1215
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: in there. Sometimes I'm surprised that the lone gobblers that

1216
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: either are hunted or for whatever reason just don't storm

1217
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: men like they're supposed to. But finally you get the

1218
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 1: right set up and bam, well.

1219
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: They're not supposed to storm in in the natural world,

1220
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 3: the hens come to them, right, That's what happened most time.

1221
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 3: But they they're in competition for those hens, so they

1222
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 3: may set that. I think that's why they sit there

1223
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 3: in a spot like a place they like the strut

1224
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 3: on a little flat or a glade or a saddle

1225
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 3: or wherever. They'll get in that spot after they fly down,

1226
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 3: and they'll sit there and gobble. How many times have

1227
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 3: you've done that? And they'll gob and God will never

1228
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: come in, and then eventually they come in. I think

1229
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 3: that's why they're sitting there. They're waiting for that hen

1230
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 3: that they heard it fly down to come to them.

1231
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: Another thing, if you hear turkey's goblin in one spot

1232
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: a lot and they shut up, and you're sitting there

1233
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: and you're trying to play the patient game, and you're

1234
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 2: just sitting there. Most guys, after a while, see I

1235
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: want to go know where that turkey was, And you'll

1236
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: walk up there and then you'll hear and the way

1237
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: he goes, now fly off, that didn't go anywhere? What's it?

1238
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 4: You know?

1239
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: You've I've heard tons of people say, like, what's the

1240
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 2: turkey got to do? Survive? Period? I mean, they're just chilling.

1241
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: They're doing their thing, you know. And like you said,

1242
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: you can reposition a lot of turkey hunting and killing

1243
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: a turkey is once that turkey gets interested enough, he

1244
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: becomes very vulnerable. And it don't matter what the way

1245
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: he said that, he becomes very vulgar. Yeah, it don't matter.

1246
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 2: In my opinion, every turkey has his day. It don't

1247
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: matter how hunted they are. If you can eventually he's

1248
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 2: gonna say, yeah, I'll go see what she looks like.

1249
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, don't. That's just my opinion.

1250
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: Moe might think something different, but that's what I kind.

1251
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 3: Of agree on that. And another thing is when when

1252
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 3: a turkey gets like you say, and when he sits

1253
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 3: there and says there and he shuts up a lot

1254
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 3: of times, I'll be patient. I'll wait, But then if

1255
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 3: he don't never open back up again. Say this is

1256
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 3: eight o'clock in the morning. Say you know it got

1257
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 3: daylight at six thirty or seven at eight o'clock. I've

1258
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: not hurt him anymore except right after daylight when he

1259
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 3: flew down. If I don't get him to respond to

1260
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 3: him a lot of times, what I'll do I'll get

1261
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 3: up from that spot, and I'll leave. I'll go around

1262
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 3: the mountain somewhere else if I've got the opportunity to

1263
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 3: see if i can get a good OBL fired up.

1264
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 3: I usually wait anywhere from two to three hours. Then

1265
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 3: I'll go back to that exact spot where I was

1266
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 3: sitting before, and I'll sit down and I'll just make

1267
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 3: a few soft calls. And I've killed a bunch of

1268
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 3: big toms. You do that still wouldn't gobble, And the

1269
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 3: next thing you hear is that'd be right on you.

1270
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: So he was hearing your call early but had hens.

1271
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 3: Or which you just didn't want to move yep. And

1272
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 3: then like where he was, like where he was staying.

1273
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. The big especially, I think them

1274
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 3: four and five year old toms have got places that

1275
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 3: they don't want to do nothing but destruct there. Yeah,

1276
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 3: and I've killed them that that is gobbled when I've

1277
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 3: made those soft calls. Yep.

1278
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: Soft calling kills a lot of turkeys. Yeah yeah, but

1279
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: that yeah, soft calling kills turkeys.

1280
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: And like I said, I've killed a lot of midday gobblers, midday,

1281
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 3: mid afternoon that I messed with that morning and they

1282
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 3: would never respond. They gobbled, but they would never come

1283
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 3: towards you or anything and go back to them places

1284
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 3: later in the day, whether it's at nine o'clock eleven

1285
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 3: o'clock to an afternoon whatever, You've got time to do it.

1286
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 3: But that's why when I go turkey hunting, turkeys don't

1287
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 3: have no timeframe. They got all day and the next

1288
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 3: day or the next day. We're on a timeframe. I've

1289
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 3: got to go back to work tomorrow, so I got

1290
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 3: to get this turkey called in today. Yeah, So I

1291
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 3: think of that, and I also think of he's talking

1292
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: about tips. So I'm going to spit this one out there.

1293
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 3: When I first hear a turkey gobble, and if he's

1294
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 3: close enough, I'm going to set up before I ever

1295
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 3: sit down. I look all around. I think, if I

1296
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 3: was a turkey, where would I want to come into

1297
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 3: and strut where this hen can see me? And that's

1298
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 3: where I set up facing and about halftime they come

1299
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 3: around behind you or something other. Bit. But it pays

1300
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 3: awful lot to think that way. I think, think what

1301
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 3: you think that turkey might want to do, because they

1302
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 3: don't like really thick stuff, and they'll they'll make you

1303
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 3: drive you crazy. They'll come through the briers and stuff.

1304
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 3: You can't even walk through something. Yeah, the majority of

1305
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 3: the tire, man, I think of that.

1306
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: So last year I learned a lot on one gobbler

1307
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: and it was because the woods were open and I

1308
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: kind of got lucky and saw it. And here's what happened.

1309
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: I'd hunted all day. It was in Tennessee. It was

1310
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: opening toy at Tennessee, and ITED been on birds that

1311
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: morning but never could get him in. And that afternoon,

1312
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: at four thirty in the afternoon, I was on the

1313
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: point of this ridge and called. At four thirty in

1314
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: the afternoon, one gobbled and you know, within two undred

1315
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: fifty yards, and I was like, that's encouraging. I thought,

1316
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,439
Speaker 1: maybe you just shot gobbled at the hen and maybe

1317
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: wasn't that interested in coming. Set there for probably a

1318
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: minute and kind of figured to where I'd said if

1319
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 1: he answered again, but wasn't. Still wasn't that worried about

1320
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: didn't any of them? I call and you know, he's

1321
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: one hundred yards closer, and I say, man, I better

1322
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: sit down. So I sit down on the point of

1323
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: this ridge and it's just the most probably the prettiest

1324
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: spot I've ever killed a turkey because the ridge this

1325
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 1: point fell off in this big bottom and you could

1326
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: just see for a long ways and some big open woods,

1327
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: and uh, I called again. So he's got with three

1328
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: times now, and I'm set up and directly I see him,

1329
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: and he's about one hundred yards, but I can see

1330
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: him through the woods and he completely shuts up at

1331
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: one hundred yards, but I can see him. If I

1332
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: hadn't been able to see him, it's possible in the afternoon,

1333
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: I would have got Yeah, I just I would have

1334
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: lost interest it just thought it wasn't going to happen.

1335
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: He absolutely quit gobblin. He got with three times, but

1336
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: I saw him, and he stayed out there and shrutted

1337
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: at one hundred yards for I'm gonna say twenty minutes

1338
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: and never said a word. And I even got to

1339
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: where I would I had a decoy set out there

1340
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: and just right in front, like five feet in front

1341
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: of me. You know, I really wasn't planning on using it,

1342
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: but I just kind of stuck on the ground, and uh,

1343
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: he strutted, strutted, strudded, strutted. I'd call, he wouldn't answer

1344
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: and find and he was strutting around where he was

1345
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: going to get out of sight of me and kind

1346
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: of get in behind me. And basically after about twenty

1347
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: minutes of strutting, when he when when I felt like

1348
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: he was about to get away from me, I just

1349
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: felt like he came in from behind me, or if

1350
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: he just circled around, he was going to get away

1351
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: from me. I started calling real aggressive and uh, and

1352
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: he broke and just came in on a string after

1353
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of being completely silent and uh. But anyway,

1354
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: I think if I hadn't seen that turkey, I probably

1355
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't have killed it because I would have thought.

1356
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 3: He wasn't interesting and he's gone on I tried.

1357
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: To move in, I would have been like, oh, man,

1358
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: he's down there two hundred yards if we just get

1359
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: sixty yards closer, and I would have bumped him, because

1360
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: that's when you've heard it, yep, because he was just

1361
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: right there.

1362
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1363
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: But uh, but he struted t trut is threaded, and

1364
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: then I got real aggressive with him, this kind of

1365
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: a last ditch effort, and man, he just broke strut

1366
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: and just came right to me. And I killed him

1367
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: on that first st at four thirty.

1368
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was an afternoon. My whole life. I had

1369
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: to stop hunting at one in Missouri, you know, yep,

1370
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 2: traveling to turkey hunt, I've killed turkeys in like eight states,

1371
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 2: I think, the afternoons where you can hunt all day.

1372
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: I've killed more turkeys out of state in the afternoon

1373
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 2: than I have the morning. Really, yes, because they they've

1374
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: done their dance, you know, the girls have left, and

1375
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just find more alone turkeys in

1376
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 2: the afternoon. Probably not as vocal, no, but whenever they

1377
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 2: are vocal, you can kill man.

1378
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And probably eighty percent of the turkey hunters d

1379
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,440
Speaker 1: out of the woods in the afternoon.

1380
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: Hundred percent. Yeah, it's funny. The one turkey I killed

1381
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 2: in Mississippi the first day, Tanner and I hunted all

1382
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: day on this public plan. We got back to the

1383
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 2: hotel we were staying at, and earlier that morning we

1384
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 2: had met these two guys from Arkansas who said, yeah,

1385
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: we hunt here every year. And we got back to

1386
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 2: the hotel and one guy was and that he was

1387
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: out there.

1388
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: Setting the hotel six hotails. Not advisable, No, no, don't.

1389
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 2: You don't want to get some sort of disease. But anyway,

1390
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: we got back to the room and he was standing

1391
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: outside his door and he said, where you boys been

1392
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: And Tanner said. Tanner said, well, we hunted. He said

1393
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: you hunted all day. Said yeah, that's the only way

1394
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: you can. I don't know, that's the only way I've

1395
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: dumb enough to get them. You just got to keep going,

1396
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: keep going, You're more likely to get them, you know.

1397
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they were like, man, we do.

1398
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 2: At the ten o'clock he said, you hunted all day.

1399
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you don't realize what you uh, what

1400
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: you've got until you don't have it. I figure Missouri

1401
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: turkey hunters going out of state being able to hunt

1402
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: all day.

1403
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: Or like this is this is awesome, man, Yeah, one

1404
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 2: hundred yeah.

1405
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: Man, I like a turkey hunt when you are that's

1406
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: all you're doing. I enjoyed. I enjoy a local turkey

1407
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: hunt where you're just going out for a couple of hours,

1408
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: which I know you've done a lot of mode just

1409
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: just just going out close to the house a couple hours.

1410
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you how much time, but it's still like fun,

1411
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 3: go when you can go.

1412
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 1: But it's also I love it when you are somewhere

1413
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: and you're there for three or four days and you're

1414
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: there to turkey hunt, and you can hunt all day

1415
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: and yeah, if you can just not need that validation

1416
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: of a gobble every ten minutes, you can kill them

1417
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: in the afternoon.

1418
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 2: Well, in Mississippi, we didn't hear any gobbles nothing. I mean,

1419
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: it was just I think the day I killed the turkey,

1420
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 2: we walked eleven miles. Yeah, wow, I mean just but hey,

1421
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: we killed them.

1422
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 3: I give you another tip on public land.

1423
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 1: No, we don't want to give them too many tips.

1424
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: Let's start. Let's start killing our turkeys.

1425
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 3: That most of them don't hunt that hard. But like

1426
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 3: you're hunting on public lands and where and say you

1427
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 3: go in, go into the spot of the morning, you're

1428
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: driving down the roads and of course there's side roads

1429
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 3: and gated roads on public land everywhere. You know you

1430
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 3: see vehicles park people hunting. You know it's got there

1431
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 3: earlier or whatever. And something I've done my whole life

1432
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: is if I go in and place three or four

1433
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 3: days and I see a vehicle there, the same vehicle

1434
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 3: three four days, I will go back sometime another later

1435
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 3: in the season or whatever for these people were hunting.

1436
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 3: If there's no vehicle there, I'm gonna go in there

1437
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 3: because they didn't kill all the turkeys in there. They're

1438
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: hunting in there every day for a reason, because there's

1439
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 3: a turkey they let them do. You're scouting for you,

1440
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 3: some don't go in on somebody. Yeah, you know, but

1441
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 3: I've killed a lot of turkeys that way by seeing

1442
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 3: where other vehicles were parked and then not even ever

1443
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 3: scattered in there and going there. And I've killed a

1444
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 3: lot of turkeys doing that, and especially going in there

1445
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: midday afternoon hunting like cams talking about it and then

1446
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 3: places and I've even done that where I went to

1447
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 3: another spot and come back in this vehicle, be gone

1448
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 3: at ten or eleven o'clock in the morning, I was

1449
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 3: gonna go somewhere. Well, if they didn't kill a turkey

1450
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: in here, or if there's more than one turkey in here,

1451
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 3: I'm gona see what's going on going on, and I'll

1452
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 3: go in that place and hunt. And then I'm scouting

1453
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 3: it while i'm hunting too, so I know it better,

1454
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 3: especially when you're traveling somewhere on public land that you've

1455
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 3: never been before. Yeah, I've done that a lot over

1456
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 3: the years.

1457
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. When you're out of state going and it's

1458
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 2: like you know, you don't have permission anywhere, you're just

1459
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 2: hunting the public. Like he said, seeing where the cars

1460
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: are tells you a lot of information. Number One, you

1461
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: could say, like he said, there's turkeys here. You'd also say,

1462
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: let's go to another place find some. I don't know

1463
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: how many times just I mean you name the place Kansas.

1464
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 2: I shot a lot of turkeys in Kansas. You'll see

1465
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: cars parked at these walking hunt areas. You'll drive and

1466
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 2: drive for hours. Before you used to be able to

1467
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: hunt wherever. Now you had to draw a specific zone

1468
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: in Kansas. I mean not being afraid to just take

1469
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,759
Speaker 2: off and go in any direction wherever.

1470
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 3: Yep.

1471
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 2: So many times killed turkeys doing that, just getting away

1472
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 2: from the people, yep, yep.

1473
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: Well, Mo, you just confirmed what Gary Nucomb always taught me.

1474
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: And if you were following Gary Newcomb's truck and you're

1475
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: trying to do that, you would have been guar hold

1476
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 1: because Gary neukemb would park. He would go out of

1477
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: his way, never park anywhere near where he was hunting.

1478
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: I mean like paranoia, like never park anywhere near where

1479
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: you're hunting. Park somewhere way off, or have like a

1480
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: secret trail that you can pull off the road like

1481
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 1: you know you brush. Yeah, well, hey this has been awesome. Yeah,

1482
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: so this is a Turkey Week at Meat Eater, A

1483
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff for sale for.

1484
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 4: Sure, tree Line Turkey Vest.

1485
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta show him that Turkey best bear, go

1486
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: get that Turkey Best. It's hanging over there, First Light.

1487
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: It has a new Turkey vest and uh, these Phelps calls,

1488
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be lots of turkey stuff for sale, but uh,

1489
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: this is this is my new turkey vest. Cumbers there, yep,

1490
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: tree Lined Turkey Vest.

1491
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 3: Man.

1492
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's it's kind of a slim down version

1493
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: of these big you know, back back in the day

1494
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: Turkey Best were huge and just were like big bulky things.

1495
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: This is like trim down. But it's also got a

1496
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: back where you can carry uh some water snacks or jacket.

1497
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like you know, you got a

1498
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: pretty good size back, put some TP in there. Yep,

1499
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: that's right. But you could also stuff a bird right

1500
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: right there in the back, or stuff a d coy.

1501
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: You wouldn't carry around very many of them. But anyway,

1502
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 1: that's First Light's new tree Line Turkey Vest Inspector. It's

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01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: got the little adjustable seat on it, and h I

1504
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 1: love that thing. Soe man, it's gonna be a good season.

1505
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, guys. Karen, thanks a ton coming up, man,

1506
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: Thanks for inviting me.

1507
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: Do you think of alhu would translate on the podcast?

1509
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 4: I think it's worth a try about turkey calls.

1510
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna have a little We're gonna have

1511
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: a little little calling contest here. I don't know how

1512
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: we're going to decide who's the best.

1513
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 4: All that side.

1514
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 3: Let Josh be the judge, okay, and.

1515
01:15:58,920 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 4: Fade is in my hand.

1516
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 2: What do you want, like, uh, like a scenario the

1517
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: Grand Nationals?

1518
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll start with camp.

1519
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,560
Speaker 2: Oh you want me to do it? Okay? What what

1520
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 2: scenario you want me to do?

1521
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1522
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 2: Waking up on the limb.

1523
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:16,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do that. Let's do that.

1524
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 1: Okay, wake welcome hand on the limb the limb. Okay,

1525
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: do you understand scenario?

1526
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 4: Right?

1527
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 5: And not?

1528
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not a super experienced tree color, so

1529
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm not super familiar with that.

1530
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 2: That's just like a tree yep.

1531
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: And then he flies down like what it would sound

1532
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: like if a hen was roostered over you and the

1533
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: sun started to come up.

1534
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 3: And she's waking up. The world knows pass the old

1535
01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 3: big Tom over there where she.

1536
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: Saw few ELPs and then some big place. Tell me

1537
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: you're the artist. This is your canvas. Brother. Mmmm mmmmmm okay, great, great,

1538
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: Uh I need uh, I need something here, guys, hold

1539
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: on your second on a gray Beard.

1540
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 2: You're gonna get a wing.

1541
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, gray Beard, nukes getting gray light.

1542
01:17:55,200 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 4: Oh the multimedia realism. Okay, all right, well you're up.

1543
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 3: You want my hat?

1544
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't need he doesn't need it.

1545
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 3: If you got to beat your head and you make

1546
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 3: him think you're turkey flying that.

1547
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:47,480
Speaker 4: Beautiful.

1548
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 1: That was good, well, gentle beautiful.

1549
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give that win. Drummer, Wait, have a drum

1550
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 4: roll here?

1551
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 2: Oh I thought we were gonna do.

1552
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: I can't remember multiple snaps I saw.

1553
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1554
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 6: Scenario okay, this is like a hot tom coming in

1555
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 6: a hot time, a hend houlding.

1556
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:09,839
Speaker 4: What's a good scenario?

1557
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 2: Good fall, gobbler flock, fall, gobbler flock, get into a fight,

1558
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 2: they break up, and they recon congregate. This is grand

1559
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 2: national stuff.

1560
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 3: Have you ever had in the fall play? Yeah?

1561
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: Okay, hmmm, wow, so was that supposed to be uh.

1562
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,719
Speaker 3: Gobbler, that's that's a group of goblins.

1563
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 2: That's a group of gobblers. Yes, they get into a

1564
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: fight that was good, and they kind of in the fall.

1565
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: You'll hear them do that key key run. That's like

1566
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 2: a lost turkey.

1567
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 3: And you'll hear you'll also hear that when they're breaking

1568
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 3: up in the spring, if they're picking order figure out.

1569
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes they will that.

1570
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Yeah, I've heard that.

1571
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah a lot.

1572
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: All that. I'm not sure I'm going to be much

1573
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: of a competition here. I mean, all that I've done

1574
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: is key key running them when you broke them up

1575
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: back when we had a fall season. I never killed one,

1576
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: but boy, I sure.

1577
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 4: Let me hear you that's good. Yeah you want in

1578
01:20:59,120 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 4: on this one.

1579
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: I can't do a Kiki run with this call.

1580
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 4: Let me hear the best you got.

1581
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: Let me hear you try that Clay New Coombe signature series.

1582
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: You got the Clay newkemb signature series. I got the package.

1583
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 1: We can't open shows. The winner gets this.

1584
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 3: Oh I'll be not. I'm gonna show that my wife

1585
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 3: when I get home.

1586
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 4: Okay, let me hear it, Let me hear you Kiki no,

1587
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna.

1588
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna. I'm gonna. Yeah. Oh so you just want

1589
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 3: the Kiki run just gobbler things.

1590
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 4: You can do that too. I'm enjoying this.

1591
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: I like kind of a core. Can you gobble it?

1592
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 3: Ah?

1593
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: Oh dang? What did you do?

1594
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 4: What?

1595
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 3: Put it in front of your mouth?

1596
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1597
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: What kind of calls up?

1598
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 2: This is my all time favorite call. Well. I don't

1599
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 2: know if you can. I talk about it on this podcast.

1600
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 2: It's a rolling thunder Kevin Taylor collection. Nice. So what

1601
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: would you do?

1602
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: You put it up?

1603
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: I put it on my well and I kind.

1604
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 4: Of blowing in or sucking in, be blown out or

1605
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 4: sucking in?

1606
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: Now what are you doing?

1607
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 3: Like he's just puffing air crossing there. Yeah, I can't

1608
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 3: do it, but I'm gonna.

1609
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 4: Can't do it.

1610
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 3: I gotta nephew, can do it?

1611
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm sorry, I can't do it.

1612
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 2: I mean, And then a lot of guys though like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1613
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 2: do that, But I think it sounds better the other way.

1614
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: That sounds good.

1615
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: Can you gobble with one mo?

1616
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 3: Not very good?

1617
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: Can you gobble one not?

1618
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 4: With one of these?

1619
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah?

1620
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 3: You really want to sound like a jake when you're

1621
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 3: gobbling one hundred percent. Yeah, weaker bird, weaker birds. So

1622
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try if I get that this, I ain't

1623
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,560
Speaker 3: never tried this. Call what he was doing or with

1624
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 3: the Gobbler scenario.

1625
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: Fight. Oh that sounds good. So it's hard to pick

1626
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: a winner.

1627
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 4: I bet Josh, it is hard to pick a winner.

1628
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 4: Everybody's a Winneray for real?

1629
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: Would you would you try these out? If I gave

1630
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: you pack up? Yeah, I got I got one for you. Well,

1631
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: i'll give mo I want you to have that you can, Uh,

1632
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: you tell me what you send.

1633
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 3: I'll send you a picture of got my hand on

1634
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 3: the pack I'll give you. I'll send you, I'll send

1635
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 3: you bring with one. I'm in my but I'm not

1636
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 3: gonna use that clay nuke and one. They don't look

1637
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 3: very good.

1638
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: Uh, Well, did you have a winner or no? I

1639
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: don't want to steal the winner, but it feels like

1640
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: it's kind of tough.

1641
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 6: I felt no offense. Second place, but that was pretty good.

1642
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 6: Cameron had a good one there.

1643
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 3: All right, he was really good.

1644
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: Where's our applause?

1645
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 4: On?

1646
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: There? It's the lower right hand button, didn't it? No? No,

1647
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on the hunh good job, Camp, Congratulations, congratulations.

1648
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 4: The crowd just has gone wild the Bear Grease Grand.

1649
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: National Champion voting.

1650
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 3: If I was voting on him, get me, I'd vote

1651
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 3: him as a winner, and mainly because he was really

1652
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 3: good on that Gobbler pecking order stuff. I mean, he's

1653
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:19,799
Speaker 3: done it perfect.

1654
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, thanks guys, good luck this season. Keep

1655
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: the wild places wild, because that's where the Bears do