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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, to show that takes

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment,

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Speaker 1: and culture.

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Speaker 2: Start with headline news and then journey to.

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Speaker 1: Deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented

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Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host ourselves whiley that dude.

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Speaker 2: Y'all know how we start off every show. What's up

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Speaker 2: with that? Dude?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm throwing out the chicken breast. Y'all know what

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Speaker 1: that means. You start throwing out them chicken breast. I

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Speaker 1: got Vegas at the end of the month, y'all. Right, Now,

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't be nowhere near a swimming pool with my

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Speaker 1: shirt off. I should be nowhere near anybody with them

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Speaker 1: young muscles.

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Speaker 2: And one thing about Vegas, actually two things.

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Speaker 1: One, there's gonna be a lot of cats from a

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Speaker 1: lot of places with a lot of muscles. Dog, you

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Speaker 1: even got to go to a weightlifting competition? Nope, you

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Speaker 1: ain't gotta go nowhere where you can see people bodybuilding, Nope,

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Speaker 1: just go to Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where these suckers come from, but they

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Speaker 2: all got muscles. Like at the pool.

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Speaker 1: It's like a thing like they living somewhere Omaha, wherever

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Speaker 1: the hell these cats we're coming from with these next

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Speaker 1: level muscles, and they'd be like ooh, and they show

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Speaker 1: up and then they just be like strutting.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, and.

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Speaker 1: Then here I am even when I play balls, like no,

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Speaker 1: I play ball, but I don't look like that, do I?

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Speaker 1: So it's crazy, man, because who wants to be the

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Speaker 1: old guy? And you look old because there's just a

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Speaker 1: few things that change when you're that guy. One, the

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Speaker 1: conversations if they even start, ain't nobody randomly.

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Speaker 2: No, girls just gonna even look at you twice.

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Speaker 1: And that doesn't feel good because you used to get

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Speaker 1: looked at, used to get hounded. I used to get man,

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Speaker 1: look stop harassing me, girl, And now it's like us,

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Speaker 2: I'm like damn.

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Speaker 1: Two, it makes you self conscious because then you start

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Speaker 2: Three. You always under the water. You ever been there?

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Speaker 1: You just shoulder shoulders under the water. Everything dog your

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Speaker 1: ass up. You know damn well, that belly need to

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Speaker 1: be on top of that water.

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Speaker 2: What else?

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Speaker 1: He's just you can't cut the line the same people

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Speaker 1: just looking at that. Man, get your fat, but back

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Speaker 1: it just feel different. So I probably made up half

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Speaker 1: that stuff. But the thing is, I'm I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: motivate myself. I'm probably gonna go on my Beyonce Lemonade

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Speaker 1: diet too. That's my fast track, like if I really

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Speaker 1: Can't lie my discipline, my it's not even my discipline.

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Speaker 1: I'm still disciplined. I can't lie. I don't have the

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Speaker 2: And then I see Shannon Sharp somewhere and I'm like, go, dang,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing, Wiley? Get yourself together? Oh man,

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Speaker 2: he older than you. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: He over here getting new hips, got all them new muscles.

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Speaker 1: I need to take what he takeing.

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 1: Eugenics to something? I need to hook Dug Flutie need

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Speaker 1: to hook me up, Frank Thomas. Something I need? I

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Speaker 1: Everybody on that ozimpic right now and all those things,

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Speaker 1: and you look, I don't think that's right if you're

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Speaker 1: not pre diabetic or whatever you need it for that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's right as just a cosmetic thing

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Speaker 1: like be ami metrics. I think B and MI is

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Speaker 1: so fake. It's like if you're over two forty obese.

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well, dude, give me some ozimpic.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go find out what I am though, because

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Speaker 2: I was sexy, and damn it.

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Speaker 1: I was like five pounds away from like going to

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Speaker 1: Vegas by myself, like he Anna, Marie, chill, me, let me,

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Speaker 1: just stare in my abs longer because you ain't got

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Speaker 1: a cheat, none of that. I love when you go

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Speaker 1: Because I went out to dinner the other night and

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Speaker 1: so I'm hurting my own white sweatshirt, black pants, and

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Speaker 1: black and white shoes. Oh Domino, motherfucker. They were looking

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, so it feels good to do that.

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Speaker 1: But then I don't give I don't talk, I don't

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Speaker 2: Trust me. Let me stop. Don't let the lion out

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Speaker 1: You mean looking like old schools, We're streaking better, stop

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Speaker 1: playing because I used to get it in. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: hot as hell, No, hell was colder than it was.

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Speaker 2: It was so man, princess and superheroes everywhere, like you

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Speaker 1: I saw him ache Man, yep, Batman, Yep. I needed

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Speaker 1: to see ice man. Is that one?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: I needed some of that ice. All the princesses were there,

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Speaker 1: and Arabella and all them. Is that the names? I

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Speaker 1: go have fun, kids, Let's go and we just have

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Speaker 1: a ball. So I was just sweating on my kids

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Speaker 1: the whole morning. All Right, y'all, let's get into the

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Speaker 1: show right now where Diazio. Wooh, I wonder how much

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Speaker 1: they've officially cut ties with Sean Comb's Diddy.

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Speaker 2: Take that. Take that, Take that. That's what Dazio said.

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Speaker 1: And this comes after did he sued the beverage company

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Speaker 1: Diddy was dumped by the world's largest spirits maker. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's why, after he accused it of racist handling of

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Speaker 1: Comb said Diazo leaders acknowledged that his race played a

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Speaker 1: Why one, it feels a little simple and lazy, But

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Speaker 1: it could be realer than real that Diddy would claim

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Speaker 1: racism when he has an issue in business with Diagio.

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Speaker 1: It just seems like, oh low hanging from it seems

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Speaker 1: like you see that happening a lot, right, that's the

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Speaker 1: Come on, Diddy, show me that those are lyrics. We

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Speaker 1: need to see you got that on record? WHOA, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a problem, Dagio. But Dagio is also being

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Speaker 1: They're but not there only like Diddy is a world

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Speaker 1: wide icon, global icon. Like people low Diddy everywhere, So

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you sell Diddy everywhere?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to push too much against Diazgio because

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Speaker 1: spirit maker. So whatever they're doing is working. But that

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Speaker 1: Ditty's point, all right, So Diazgio declared that they will

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Speaker 1: calling for the lawsuit to be dismissed. Gimmo the chicken

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Speaker 1: So Puff Daddy sued the company in May in New

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Speaker 1: York Supreme Court, stating that they neglected his spirits.

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Speaker 2: And undermined them by marketing ms urban brands.

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Speaker 1: I said that already we are satting that mister Combs

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Speaker 1: has chosen to recast a business dispute as anything other

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Speaker 1: hi Rod Coming. Mister Combs's bad faith actions have clearly

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Speaker 1: move to dismiss his baseless complaint in our business relationship.

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Speaker 1: Mister Combs has repeatedly undermined our partnerships and threatened to

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Speaker 1: Did he put us in court and we threw our punch,

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Speaker 1: denying at and saying it's false. Now we're gonna throw

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Speaker 1: another punch. It seems like from Dazio like dog, we

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean we're racist. Is that what they're trying

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Speaker 1: to hide behind. That's what they're trying to claim. Where

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Speaker 1: did he like y'all racist because y'all trying to market

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Speaker 1: me in that way? Did y'all see that miscommunication? That

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Speaker 1: to sit here, as HD hypothetical detective, that's a hard

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Speaker 1: one to see where it was now without knowing the details,

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Speaker 1: Like we could make some assumptions here, but it seems

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Speaker 1: like Diddy was sitting in there like, yo, y'all keep

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Speaker 1: limit to me, y'all not putting the same money behind

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Speaker 1: us as you are.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say what they doing over there.

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Speaker 1: Cossa amigos, cosa amigos getting two billion and we getting

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Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty seven million, what's that about?

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Speaker 2: And they're like, well, you know.

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Speaker 1: It's a different brand, it's different association, it's a different

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Speaker 1: luxury items. You know, people look at it in a

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Speaker 1: different respect. It says something different, Diddy than what your says.

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Speaker 1: And Diddy like what and that Let's be real. Sorak

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Speaker 1: is a club vodka. It feels like if you had

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Speaker 1: to say sirak, you got one sentence.

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Speaker 2: You're like, that's why I'm a drinker. I go to club.

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Speaker 1: You're probably drinking at home too. But Soak's strong on

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Speaker 1: I said, why it's so strong, Like you know, like

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Speaker 1: Patron is strong tequila and you grew up on it

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Speaker 1: and then you were like, oh, I want smoother tequila.

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Speaker 2: Like Sarak is not a smooth vodka.

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Speaker 1: It's like, ah, god dang, but that's good at club

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Speaker 1: He intends to seek billions in dollars in damages, trying

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Speaker 2: So I think his case is legit, y'all think it's

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Speaker 2: He gonna win that case now if.

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Speaker 1: He's just showing that big dog versus big dog, but

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Speaker 1: Y'all saw that sleeve of tattoos on those kids in

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Speaker 2: Damn it, dude's tatted up.

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Speaker 1: And obviously that came with a mixed up, stirred up

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the motives the influences behind getting tattoos,

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Speaker 2: So they playing basketball, so damn it.

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Speaker 1: They watching these pro basketball players and they looking at them,

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Speaker 2: Well, it ain't all NBA issued young kids, but.

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Speaker 1: They see it, so you know they're gonna be influenced

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about how some hope that that was temporary.

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Speaker 1: And some people were like, yo, let the kids be,

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Speaker 1: Let the kids be. They could be real. What's wrong

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Speaker 2: You can't get it now?

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Speaker 1: Who That sound ignorant to me? But we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: give you some contexts. In Florida, where the video was filmed,

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Speaker 1: So we don't know if it's temporary or permanent. At

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Speaker 1: I am a firm believer that we should not make

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Speaker 1: permanent decisions that includes piercons. I don't want my kids

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Speaker 2: My mama said, you ain't getting none of them pierce

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Speaker 1: So the day I left to go to Columbia, came

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Speaker 1: all right, But in the house, no tattoos, none of that.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 1: If you're talking about a kid switching their gender and identity,

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Speaker 1: Support that. Don't get mad, don't get upset. Don't call

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Speaker 2: You tattooers out there, just be of age.

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Speaker 1: And then do you you are your own human being,

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Speaker 1: Like just really gets into representation. It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: y'all don't want to go? Y'all wouldn't go. That's why

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Speaker 2: I'm going right.

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Speaker 1: I like to be the pioneer of my own thoughts,

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Speaker 2: That is not a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of times when we get into this

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Speaker 2: It feels better when you see somebody else.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why it feels better, because frankly, that

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Speaker 2: Why he ain't gonna get a sack for me?

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Speaker 1: You know what, I better find a way to feel

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Speaker 2: Mike, if I could be like Mike, all of that

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Speaker 2: Who the hell think that?

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Speaker 1: You don't need to be looking like somebody else, doing

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Speaker 1: To get there, you gotta go narrow. You gotta be

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Speaker 2: So let me do the thing that's gonna get me there,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this story right here where

433
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 1: Fat Joe defends his use of the in word. Hmmm,

434
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting right here, all right, Fat Joe,

435
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna defend something I don't use.

436
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 2: Look forward to this, all right.

437
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: So Fat Joe is tired of people coming for him

438
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: for using the in word, and recently got some backup

439
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: from taylip Quality as he defended his usage of the

440
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: word man already.

441
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 2: I don't like this, but let's go through it.

442
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: I hate when like you gotta use another person like

443
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 1: this is almost saying you got black friends kind of thing.

444
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use Tai lib kwali to kind of even

445
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: if he didn't use him, he can't. He inserted himself,

446
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, into this in word conversation. Nah

447
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: nah nah, you use the N word, you speak on it,

448
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: you by yourself.

449
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: I know he has, but let's talk to it.

450
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 1: The pair of New York MC's got together for an

451
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: episode on tay Leib's People's Party podcast. That's why they

452
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: were together, and they addressed the topic of the N word,

453
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: and Tyli kicked it off, softened the blow, h laid

454
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: the mattress down.

455
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 2: As they say, for those of us that grew up.

456
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: In New York City Latino people who grew up in

457
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 1: black neighborhoods, they say the INN word just like black

458
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 1: people do. And then Fat Joe chimed in in explaining

459
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: it to people at this point is like mind boggling

460
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: to me, because it's like, it's been like, what's up,

461
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: Fat Joe? You my in word since I'm two years old.

462
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: You taking the offense? Then what do I.

463
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 2: Look like a slave owner to you? He stupid? Or

464
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: I look like the cop who killed George Floyd.

465
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: I gotta think about you because you obviously know that

466
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: you just said I'm the most important piece of hip hop.

467
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: You obviously know I'm with black people all day. I

468
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: fight for black people. I fight for Latinos every day

469
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: in my life.

470
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 2: He continued. He ain't done, He's getting this off his chest.

471
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: Go Fat Joe.

472
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't try to let people make me second guess

473
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: what I do, because that's not what hip hop was

474
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: founded on. The origin of the word is fouled anyway.

475
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how we made it cool. If I'm

476
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: driving right down the block and somebody's doing something to

477
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: be the blackest doing something to the blackest lady in

478
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: the world, I'm jumping out.

479
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: I'm dying.

480
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: So it's offensive to me when people say, Yo, why

481
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: do you even say that? Like, don't you know? So

482
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: this isn't the first time he talked about it. He

483
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: was on the Breakfast Club before and he talked about

484
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: the controversy as well, being Porto Rican and using in

485
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: the word freely.

486
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: Okay, let me stop down right here. I gotta give

487
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: him credit.

488
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: It hit me in the head too when I got

489
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: to New York, cause you know me from La seventeen

490
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: eighteen years I get to New York, and I used

491
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: the N word all the way to like ten years ago,

492
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: whatever it may be.

493
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 2: But so at this time I'm using it in a

494
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: word too.

495
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: But I noticed that when I got to New York,

496
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: it wasn't as limited to the people where it was

497
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: in La.

498
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: In La, it was just black people.

499
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: You will never hear anybody else other than a black

500
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: purpose and say the N word. To the point I

501
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: knew two white people that I grew up with on

502
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: the block. They never used the N word in LA

503
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: two white people. They grew up around black people. So

504
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: that does this credit what Fat Joe was saying. Except

505
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: when I went to New York, everybody everybody, and I

506
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: was ready to throw blows at Firstly I came with

507
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: the LA mindset, like what And then I looked. I

508
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that Dominican do darker than me? So

509
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, all right, they off, you know.

510
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: Then it was like all the Latinos and I was like, ah,

511
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: even super light ones like you know sometimes you can

512
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: see a little tino.

513
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, okay, okay, okay. They were using it.

514
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: Then it really caught me when the white dudes and

515
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: girls from the neighborhood were using it.

516
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: And then I had a choice. There's a choice when

517
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: making I'm like, am I about to fight all in

518
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: New York? Or just let it be.

519
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: This is just their culture, This is the subculture of

520
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: New York. So I remember that moment because it hit me.

521
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: And I know some prominent people from New York that

522
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: used the N word that I don't think y'all would like.

523
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: If y'all knew all of them, so let me just

524
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: protect the guilty, all right. So Fat Joe, it's like

525
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm Spanish. I knew I was Latino, but the whole

526
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: time I thought I was black. Anyway, Now you're going

527
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: too far. Calm down. So my mom lived there forty

528
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: years before I was born in this project, and I'm

529
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: born blonde hair, green eyes, the shit crazy. She brings

530
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: me there and the first thing they do is look

531
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: at this little N word Joey. He ain't lying. He

532
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: got green eyes. The man and I'm walking to. The guys

533
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: from the building are like, yo, look at this little

534
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: inn word Joe, little fat Joe. That's all I knew

535
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 1: my whole life before even elementary.

536
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: Man.

537
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: I love Fat Joe one, so you know, I like

538
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: what he's doing in this space as well. I was

539
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: just about I love Fat Joe the rapper. He was dope,

540
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: but this space as well. His talk game is funny.

541
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: It's great, but all you know is not all you do,

542
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,239
Speaker 1: and I don't like that.

543
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: It's his premise.

544
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: It's almost like I hear where he's coming from, and

545
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: I get where he's coming from, and I'm not mad

546
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: or what he's coming from. But then when he articulates it,

547
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: the premise and foundation is faulty.

548
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: So this is all I knew growing up. So that's

549
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: all I'm gonna do now. That ain't one. That is weak. Two.

550
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: That is not how you roll. That's not how you

551
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: live your life. I don't know everything about Fat Joe,

552
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: but let me make some lazy assumptions. Maybe Fat Joe

553
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: grew up around a lot of crime. Is he committing

554
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: crimes right now? Maybe Fat Joe grew up around a

555
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: lot of people who were doing drugs.

556
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: It's Fat Joe doing drugs right now.

557
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: Maybe Fat Joe grew up around a lot of people

558
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: who didn't want.

559
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: To do much with their life. Is Fat Joe doing

560
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 2: something with his life? All you know?

561
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: You can't use the whole This is all I saw

562
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: growing up, and that's what I do now. That's all

563
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: I do now, because that's all I saw growing up.

564
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: You're using it for the N word, but you ain't

565
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: using it too many other places in your life, I assume,

566
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: and I hope so because I know so. So that's

567
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: not a good enough excuse. It's not a great enough excuse.

568
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: But everything else you said kind of adds up to it.

569
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: But my issue is I think he has an issue

570
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: with it. He said, he knows the word is bad,

571
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: but we've converted it to good. And he still said

572
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: he also has a problem with the word. It's offensive

573
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: to me, quote unquote. Then that's where I start. If

574
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: it's offensive to you, why are you using it? I

575
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: came to my epiphan I came to my moment just

576
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: because I was like, I realized I couldn't justify it.

577
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: I realized I have been mesmerized by my childhood like you,

578
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: fad Joe, I had been seduced by the word.

579
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: I have been desensitized by the word.

580
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: Then I came to realization that every time I try

581
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: to defend it, I sound dumber and dumber and fat. Joe,

582
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: You're not dumb. But then if you read through everything

583
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: you're saying and then really apply it to reality and

584
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: to your life, it doesn't add up. That's when I

585
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: stopped doing it because I'm too logical. I'm like, one

586
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: thing I ain't gonna do is sound dumb. I mean,

587
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: i'd be right, but I ain't gonna sound wrong. You

588
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: know the difference. So nobody has given me a good

589
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: explanation yet, Oh no, we gonna converted it.

590
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 2: We don't took the negative out of it. No, you ain't, No,

591
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: you ain't.

592
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: You think you have until somebody else says it, And

593
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: then why you so mad that they saying it? If

594
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: the negative is gone from it? Oo oo no no, no, no,

595
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: it's not the well the negative's gone. But it depends

596
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: on who says it. Why it's a word. What I mean,

597
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: like people darken than me saying it that are not

598
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: even black like me, people lighter than as white as

599
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: white that are not white, or saying it and you're

600
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: okay with it, and you're not okay with it, Like

601
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: so if a white person says it, if I'm just

602
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: repeating it, if I'm just saying it in quotation, if

603
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm just reading lyrics, you got a problem. When Tarantino

604
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: laughing at all this, like I do what I want

605
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: to do. That's the point, man, It just doesn't add up,

606
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: y'all know it. Stop trying to defend it. Hey, just

607
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: I'd rather you say, look, this is one of the

608
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: ignorant things I do. Like everybody got their vices, Marcell's.

609
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: You like to hydrate, I like to say the N

610
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: word and can't justify it makes no sense. It's not

611
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: self hate, but it's a negative word that ain't making

612
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: me feel the best. And that's why I use like

613
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: I think the word doesn't give off the vibration for

614
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: what it's representing, because we know that this is a

615
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: word that it was used against black people, and now

616
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: black people are saying, no, we're using it for us

617
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: in a positive way.

618
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: But I'm just.

619
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: Gonna tell you as a black person, and let me

620
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: just put myself in the outsider's position. Ain't nobody looking

621
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: at it like that. You may think you are, you

622
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: may think it's cool, and then everybody it's one of

623
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: those they laughing at you using the word, not actually

624
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: respecting you for using it. So we'll see, we'll see

625
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: what this goes. What y'all think about Fat Joe and

626
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: his continuous use of the N word, And is his

627
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: reasoning more so than just his use, because frankly, the

628
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: word it's not even it's a negative word. But I

629
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: won't let it disturb me, you know what I mean.

630
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: It's one of those like, all right, you just told

631
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: on yourself.

632
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 2: You know.

633
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: It's almost like when I see somebody smoking cigarettes, I

634
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: just judge your ass I just do. And sometimes you

635
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: know I have smoked a cigarette before judge me. Yeah,

636
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: people got to get that right. Here's my last point

637
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: on this. Judge and ye shall be judged. You know,

638
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: don't judge and you probably won't be judged. That's a

639
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: psychological game, y'all. Judge and ye shall be judged means

640
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: is once you enter the game of judgment in this world,

641
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 1: oh you're gonna fill other people's judgment.

642
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: I had to explain this to.

643
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: My wife before because a lot of people hide from

644
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: it and think it's such a like practical thing in

645
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: terms of don't judge other people because that's mean, that's rude.

646
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: No, that's not what it means.

647
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: It means if you judge somebody, be prepared for them

648
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: to play defense and go on offense. They gonna play

649
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: against you. Now, your friends gonna now judge you because

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Speaker 1: not just a practical physical reality.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So that Joe, I'm listening to your brother and I'm

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Speaker 1: judging you, and you can judge me too, because.

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Speaker 2: Ye judge, ye shall be judge. All right, y'all got

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