1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 2: Welcome to Disgraceland, the after Party. 5 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we 6 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: like to call the after Party. This is the show 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: after the show, the party after the party, the bridge 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: the other, the backyard, to dig into the dirt, our 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, and 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we are 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: discussing Lady Gaga and Elvis Presley related crimes and conspiracies, 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: highlighting some special Disgraceland community members, giving away some merch 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: because it's always a season of giving here in Disgraceland, 15 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: and we get into your emails, comments, dms, and as 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: always a whole lot of rosie. This is the podcast 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, that independent thinkers who 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: know that the best history is the history that gets buried. 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Disgrace Lands, where I tell the stories they didn't want told, 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: disc goes let's get into it. Happy New Year. We 22 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: are back. We are shooting out of this canon called 23 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, and I am so excited to be 24 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: with you guys, happy that you're here with me as well. 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: Now listen, I don't know about y'all, but my algorithm 26 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: served up a small handful of twenty twenty six music 27 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: prediction articles over the past few weeks, over the holidays 28 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Now, I never read 29 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: these articles because no one really knows what's going to happen, 30 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: and just because you know the future of music, it's 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: way less interesting to me than the history of music. 32 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: Now. 33 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: One thing I think I know, however, is that at 34 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: the end of nineteen seventy six, nobody that I'm aware 35 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: of anyways, was predicting the death of Elvis Presley in 36 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, which, let's be honest, given the king's 37 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: physical shape, that wouldn't have been an unserious prognostication. But 38 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: with Elvis's passing came the conspiracies about his death and 39 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: the conspiracy claims that he was still alive. And after 40 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: all these years, this morning I wake up, I open 41 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: my laptop. I'm trying to research music predictions from the 42 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: past that went wrong, and somehow I end up on 43 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: this total other path of research where I come across 44 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: this event from music history, this spark, this single event 45 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: that ignited all of these wild theories about Elvis Presley 46 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: still being alive. You remember these theories, these sensational claims 47 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: that screamed from tabloid newspaper covers in supermarket checkout lines 48 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: for decades. Elvis spotted working at Burger King, Elvis seen 49 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: in New Mexico. Elvis is alive and pretending to be 50 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: an Elvis impersonator. That last one from the Weekly World 51 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: News is my favorite. These headlines, though, these conspiracies all right, 52 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: as I'm going through them this morning, and I'm thinking 53 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: about my childhood and trying to make sense of all this. 54 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: As I'm standing in the in the in the checkout 55 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: line with my mom, you know, and we're getting our 56 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: box of fruity pebbles and and our and our sunny Delight, 57 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: and you know, she's she's probably got a cart in Winston's. 58 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: She's she's getting for a little bit cheaper at the 59 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: grocery store than she would at the I don't know, 60 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: the corner store. And you know, I'm just staring at 61 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: the magazines on the rack there, and you know, the 62 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: whole Elvis thing is just fascinating to me. I mean, 63 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: if you were if you were alive in the eighties 64 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: kid and in line at a grocery store, it seemed 65 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: that every damn magazine cover was just plastered with these headlines. 66 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: And I don't know what the hell to make of it. 67 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: I didn't believe it, that's for sure, but you know, 68 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: reconsidering them now as an adult. These headlines, these conspiracies, 69 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: I should say, they remind me of the conspiracies that 70 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: I'm currently researching this week, These conspiracies surrounding Lady Gaga. 71 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga is just too damn famous and too compelling, 72 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: too interesting for the public to not fabricate wild stories 73 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: that supposedly explain her success. Lady Gaga is part of 74 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: the Illuminati, Lady Gaga stole her musical identity from Lena Morgana, 75 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: and now Lena Morgana's dead. Lady Gaga has a penis. 76 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: All of these are real conspiracy theories, even that last one. 77 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: I swear to God and wait to hear what she 78 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: had to do to disprove it. So there's a correlation, 79 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: I think, between the conspiracy theories around Lady Gaga and Elvis. Okay, 80 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: but back to Elvis. Now, I believe for years, as 81 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure that a lot of you have, that the 82 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: reason that these conspiracies about Elvis still being alive, the 83 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: reason that they sprung up, is because, like Lady Gaga, 84 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: Elvis was just too damn famous, too big, and when 85 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: he died, he was too beloved for the public to 86 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: fully let go of him. And I think I think 87 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: there's some truth to that assumption of mind, to that 88 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: hypothesis that that's why these Elvis is Alive theories continued 89 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: to thrive. But I didn't know until today that there 90 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: was another reason, an event, an actual event that took 91 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: place the year after Elvis passed that kicked off this 92 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: crazy thinking that allowed the conspiracies to first take root 93 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: and spread like these wicked weeds throughout our culture. And 94 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: that event is the bizarre story of Orion, who was 95 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: Orion Well in nineteen seventy eight, the year after Elvis 96 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: Presley died. Orion was a Sun Records musical artist who 97 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: looked and sounded a lot like Elvis. Presley, and I 98 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 1: mean a lot. Sun Records was, of course, the label 99 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: that first recorded Elvis Presley, the record company that made 100 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: Elvis Presley famous, the record company that put Elvis's hometown 101 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: of Memphis, Tennessee, on the map. And here it was 102 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: Sun Records in nineteen seventy eight, again just a year 103 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: after Elvis died, and Son was promoting one of its 104 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: new artists, an artist who looked and sounded an awful 105 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: lot like the King, the only difference being that this artist, Orion, 106 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: wore a mask, and that this masked man who looked 107 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: and sounded like Elvis, refused to answer the question of 108 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: whether or not he was Elvis, answering only the quote 109 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: he was Orion. Now, despite how much Orion looked, even 110 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: with the mask, and sounded like Elvis Presley, it was 111 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: obvious to anyone of sound mind that this was not 112 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: Elvis Presley, and that Elvis, by nineteen seventy eight, was 113 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: dead and in the ground. But the name Orion, the 114 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: name Orionrion had a special significance in nineteen seventy eight. 115 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: The name Orion in nineteen seventy eight wasn't just the 116 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: name of what looked to be like the first Elvis 117 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: impersonator of note. Orion was also the name of a 118 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: character in a recently published work of fiction about a 119 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: rock star trapped by his own fame who kills himself 120 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: to escape. Now, all of this may seem strange, but 121 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: in the case of Orion, the truth, as I say, 122 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: is stranger than fiction. Because the man who was Orion, 123 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: who many claimed to be Elvis, that dude, was murdered, 124 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: and by the time that happened in nineteen ninety eight, 125 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: it was too late. Part of the public had already 126 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: taken the bait and firmly believed that Elvis Presley was 127 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: as O'Rion established back in nineteen seventy eight, alive Elvis 128 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: spotted at Butte, Montana gas station. Elvis's tomb is empty, 129 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: Elvis dead at sixty three. That last headline Elvis dead 130 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: at sixty three that came in nineteen ninety eight. Elvis 131 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: Presley would have been sixty three years old in nineteen 132 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: ninety eight, nineteen ninety eight, the same year Orian died, and, 133 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: to put a finer point on it, the same year 134 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: that Orion was murdered. More on this incredible story. The 135 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: story of Orion, the artists who launched the many Elvis's 136 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: Alive conspiracy theories, including the music that Orion made, the 137 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: life that Orion lived, why folks firmly believed Orion was Elvis, 138 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: how he ended up on Sun Records, and the true 139 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: crime that resulted in this musician in o'rion's death. All 140 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: that coming up in the exclusive section of this bonus episode. 141 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: So go to disgrace landpod dot com to sign up 142 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: to become a member. You can hear this exclusive content 143 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: and more and unlock ad for you listening as well. 144 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: All Right, this week in Disgraceland, we did something different. 145 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: We previewed the coming season of new episodes that are 146 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: on their way to you in the next few months. 147 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: Stories on Johnny Thunders or the New York Dolls, the 148 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: Runaways me as a pot of the gets and a 149 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: bunch more. If you want to hear all about the 150 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: approach that we're taking to these subjects and the crimes 151 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: and the transgressions that we're going to detail, make sure 152 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: you listen to the latest episode of Disgraceland now coming 153 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: up in the rewind slot right after this bonus episode, 154 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: We're diving back into the story of Chet Baker in 155 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: Chet's Mysterious Death and Life of True Crime, a story 156 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: that happens in and around Chet Baker's incredible output as 157 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: one of the greatest, I'll say it, one of the 158 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: greatest voices in jazz music history. I know people don't 159 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: agree with me on that, but you know whatever, we're 160 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: just going to have to disagree now. I chose this 161 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: story to rewind this week because of its similarities with 162 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: our new Disgrace Land episode next week on Johnny Thunders. 163 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: Johnny Thunders and Chet Baker both were intense junkies, Both 164 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: were avatars of musician excess, Both were, as Johnny Thunders 165 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: famously said, born to lose, and both of their deaths 166 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: are shrouded in mystery. In the case of Chet Baker, 167 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure anyone really knows how he died, which 168 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: after all these years is pretty incredible. And when you're 169 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: listening to the Johnny Thunders episode the new one, be 170 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: thinking about those first generation punk bands, many of whom 171 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: loved Chet Baker. By the way, now, of course Johnny's 172 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: band New York Dolls, there's the sex Pistols, the Ramones, 173 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: the Stooges, even Velvet Underground, and let me know which 174 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: of these bands, which of these first generation punk bands 175 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: you think had the biggest influence on the future of 176 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: rock and roll, on what rock and roll became afterward 177 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: in the a's and the nineties and the two thousands, 178 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: and what rock and roll is now? Whose legacy of 179 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: those first generation punk bands, whose legacy is most important? 180 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: Was it the New York Dolls, Was it the Stooges, 181 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: the Ramones? Was it somebody else that I'm not mentioning here. 182 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: I want to know let me know six one seven 183 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: nine oh six six sixty three eight, voicemail and text. 184 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm also taking questions on how you think Johnny Thunders died, 185 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: how you think Chet Baker died, And as always, we're 186 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: going to feature your answers in next week's after Party 187 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Bonus episode. Okay, coming up right after this short break, 188 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: we hear from you with your text, your voicemails, all 189 00:11:38,880 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: that stuff coming up in just a bit. Apple podcast 190 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: listener lazy r Squared, if you're listening, get in touch 191 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: with me all right, text me six one seven nine 192 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight. I saw your review 193 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts. I thought it was very well said, 194 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: it spoke to me and I want to get you 195 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: some free merch. Same goes for Matt Bell on Spotify, 196 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: who's been digging into the archive and wrote the following 197 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: about our Ariana Grande episode. Matt Bell wrote, this one 198 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: was really powerful, my god, well written and well executed. Guys. 199 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: I'll be thinking about this story today. Matt Bell on Spotify. 200 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: Same goes for you. Hit me up via text okay 201 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight 202 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: and I'll get you some merch. Lazy Er Squared going 203 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: to get you some merch as well. We hear at 204 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: Double Elvis appreciate the reviews on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, 205 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: and not just because I'm an egomaniac narcissist who loves 206 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: hearing about how frickin' awesome I think I am. I'm 207 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: kidding though I am. Certainly no, I'm not, but mainly 208 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: because the real reason is the activity that writing and 209 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: posting a review creates. It helps the podcast app algorithms 210 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: better ranked Disgraceland, and that turns more people onto the show. 211 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: It helps with discovery. It's super important. So yeah, the 212 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: reviews are helpful. In addition to stroking our egos. Also, 213 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: I've got a storage space that I need to downsize, 214 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: and that means I got to get rid of some 215 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: of this Disgraceland merch that I have in boxes. I 216 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: don't know a lot of it. I got some T shirts, 217 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: I got some pins, I got some books, and I'm 218 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: not sure what merch you'll get if you leave a 219 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: review for us. That's right, I'm talking to all of 220 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: you now, not just talking to Matt Bell. I'm not 221 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: just talking to lazy er Square and talking to all 222 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: of you guys. Leave a review, even if you've left 223 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: one in the past, leave a new one, and it'll 224 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: pop up at the top of the review feed. That's 225 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: going to rank Disgrace Land higher. It's going to turn 226 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: more people onto the show. I'm going to see it, 227 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: And if I read it here next week or in 228 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: the coming weeks, that means you're going to get some 229 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: free merch. Now, I can't promise you what that merch 230 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: will be, but I can promise you that it will 231 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: be cool. So leave a review for Disgrace on Apple 232 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: Podcasts or Spotify. Listen to the after party next week. 233 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: If I read your review, get in touch with me 234 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: by sending me a text to six one seven nine 235 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: oh six six sixty three eight, and I will send 236 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: you some merch. It's that simple, all right. Speaking of 237 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: your texts, the three to oho three writes in Jake 238 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: literal loll when you said you mix up Bette Midler 239 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: and Barber streisand I can see it. Yeah, I can't 240 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: remember what I was saying this in relation to three 241 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: oh three? Was it in relation to Lady Gaga? I 242 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: can't remember, because she kind of reminds me of a 243 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: modern day version of both of both those incredible artists 244 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: in her own way. I mean, Lady Gaga is so versatile. 245 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: I know some of you hear that, They're like, what 246 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: what the hell are you talking about? But I don't know. 247 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: I see it. I'm reading an incredible book, right, I 248 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier that I'm researching Lady Gaga. I'm reading It's 249 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: the book is so good, so good, a great book 250 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: called poker Face, The Rise and Rise of Lady Gaga 251 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: by Marie Callahan, who I think is just fantastic. And 252 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of you may already know this 253 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: about Lady Gaga, but she's got this fascinating backstory. Much 254 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: of which she's mythologized herself. And there's a lot of 255 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: sketchy details in there, what's true, what's not, what does 256 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: she make up, etc. But one thing that is for 257 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: certain is that Lady Gaga was down in the Lower 258 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: East Side of New York in the mid aughts two 259 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: thousand and six ish seven ish two thousand and five 260 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: sixty seven, in that era, the same era that I 261 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: was down there playing a bunch of shows, had a 262 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: bunch of friends who were living down there, and a 263 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: bunch of friends from Boston who were also traveling down 264 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: there and playing shows. And I know that era and 265 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: location of New York very well because, like I said, 266 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: it was there in the way that Marie Callahan, the 267 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: author here of Poker Face, the way she depicts that 268 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: time and place is as good, if not better than 269 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,239 Speaker 1: Meet Me in the Bathroom, which which is a fantastic 270 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: book about that era by Lizzie Goodman, another fantastic author. 271 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: Like I said, this book it's I don't want to 272 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: say it's better, but it depicts the era in a 273 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: different way, a completely compelling way, and specifically, I don't 274 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: know what it was like for you guys, but I 275 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: remember waking up in like two thousand and six, two 276 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, and and just looking around and going, 277 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: wait a minute, dance music is cool with indye kids. 278 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: How did this happen? Because I've always thought the dance 279 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: music was cool, but it was something that was completely 280 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: derided by the underground scene, the underground hardcore punk indie scene, 281 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: et cetera. And then all of a sudden, you know, 282 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: we had in the early two thousands, you have in 283 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: New York, you have the whole electroclash thing. But then 284 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, by the mid two thousands, the mid adds 285 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: i should say, it kind of transitions into this this 286 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: dance thing that is no longer ironic, and it was 287 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: a weird thing that I've never really been able to 288 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: fully articulate in my head. And Marie Callahan articulates that 289 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: transition within the context of Lady Gaga's come up story 290 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: down there in the Lower East Side at that exact moment. 291 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: It's fascinating. I'm about, I don't know, cord maybe a 292 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: third of the way through the book, and I can't 293 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: can't wait to get back to it later this afternoon. Again. 294 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: That's poker Faced, The Rise and Rise of Lady Gaga. 295 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: I'll have our Lady Gaga episode for you guys in 296 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Can't wait for you to hear 297 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: that six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. 298 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: You want to get at me with anything voicemail or 299 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: text of five to one four text and hey, Jake, 300 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: it's Davis from the five to one four. Hope all 301 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: is well and all the best to you and the 302 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: team at Disgrace, and I'm looking forward to what's coming 303 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: our way in twenty twenty six. I've been thinking it 304 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: would be cool to hear an episode about Black Flag, 305 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: the really important piece of American punk and hardcore history 306 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: and played a huge role in establishing the DIY touring 307 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: circuit in the country. Yes, they have, and I really 308 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: want to do an episode on Black Flag. I also 309 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: want to do an episode on Henry Rowins himself, and 310 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: you know he's not They're not. Neither are on the 311 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: schedule right now. However, I was looking at the schedule 312 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: for the middle and later part of the year this 313 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 1: morning actually, and I saw a couple of artists on there. 314 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if I want to 315 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, so maybe Davis, maybe 316 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: Black Flag will be slotted in instead Davis. If you 317 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: or anyone else wants a more formal role in the 318 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: deciding of what episodes we cover, become a Patreon member, 319 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: and we were developing away for us to all beyond 320 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: the after party, get together a couple of times a 321 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: year to meet up and to roll up our sleeves 322 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: and talk about which episodes we want to talk about. 323 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: And this is going to give a handful of you, 324 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: or however many of us who sign up a direct 325 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: access in the choosing of our programming and which episodes 326 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: we cover. All right. Eighth five Sherry F text in Hey, 327 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: what actor's death hit me the hardest? Is Matthew Perry. 328 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: As a baby of gen X friends raised me. I 329 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: literally have the same tattoo as Rachel, and out of 330 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: everyone's character, Chandler was the most relatable. It was more 331 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: than just a show. And reading Matthew's book, you could 332 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: feel his pain. It took a piece of my adolescence 333 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: and young adulthood when he passed, and I still get 334 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: emotional watching him and you can see his pain and 335 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: growth season to season. That's for Sherry F. In the 336 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: Central Coast of California. Sherry, I'm not sure if you're 337 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: responding to an older after party episode or if you're 338 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: responding to something that Zeth might have asked in this 339 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: week's Hollywood Land, which I haven't listened to the whole 340 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: thing yet. I'll listen to the beginning. I know it's 341 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: on River Phoenix. The wrap party episode is on the 342 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: River Phoenix episode of Hollywood Land. Both are in that 343 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: feed this week. I suspect maybe Zeth pose that question, 344 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: but I wanted to. I wanted to read your text, Sherry, 345 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: because I'm not sure if you're aware or not that 346 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: we have an episode on Matthew Perry. I'm quite proud 347 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: of it. It's one of those you know, I heard 348 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: this thing the other day. I was I was at 349 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: Mass actually on Sunday, and I heard part of the 350 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: homily was that, you know, a lot of people think 351 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: that they need to use their work to do well, 352 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: and of course that's that's true, but there's also another 353 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: piece of our work, and and that sometimes we can 354 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: we can hear, we can hear bigger truths, we can 355 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: hear directly from from the Big Man through our work, 356 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: and this Matthew Perry episode that we did was an 357 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: example of that was an example of of me learning 358 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: a lot, not only learning a lot but about Matthew 359 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: Perry and about addiction, but also learning a lot about 360 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: myself and some past grief. And I don't get heavy with, 361 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, any of the me stuff, not in that 362 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: episode talking about me very much at all, but it 363 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: really kind of unlocked unlock some things about myself that 364 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of and about this horrible, horrible disease. 365 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: I think Matthew Perry was a pretty incredible guy. Beyond 366 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: his talent, I think what he did for people who 367 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: suffer from this disease is pretty impressive. And I think 368 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: the way that he died was pretty disgraceful. And I 369 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: invite you, Sherry, to check out that episode if you 370 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: haven't already, and to anyone who hasn't listened to that episode, 371 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: go ahead and listen. I believe it's still in the 372 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: Disgrace Land Feed, not in the Hollywood Land feeds. In 373 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: the Disgrace Sland feed, just search up Matthew Perry and 374 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: matt will have the episode notes for you in the 375 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: show notes section of this here bonus episode. Speaking of 376 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: Hollywood Land one thing I have to mention is Zeth, 377 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: who's doing the real bang up job over there. This happens. 378 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: You know, he got on the mic to record the 379 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: rap party, and you know, we know we sit at 380 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: these desks and we have multiple microphones set up for 381 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: multiple things that we're doing, and Zeth recorded that entire 382 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: episode with the wrong mic. So it might sound a 383 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: little a little diy, it might sound a little a 384 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: little mid Aughts Lower East Side for you guys, But 385 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: it's not about the sound. It's about what the man 386 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: is saying. So if you're hearing that and you're wondering 387 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: what the hell's going on, it's just you know, Zeth 388 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: was using one of his distortion pedals for this episode, 389 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: and you know it sounds sounds pretty badass. So so 390 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: that's what's happening there. But again, it's about what the 391 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: man was saying. Here's a little taste, Matt, why don't 392 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: you give the disco as a little taste of what's 393 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: going on in Hollywood Land in the in the Wrap 394 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: party this week? 395 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 3: In the introduction to this week's full episode on River Phoenix. 396 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: Hopefully you've heard that already. I'm talking, of course about 397 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: the short intros I record for each of our fully 398 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 3: scripted sound design episodes that come out on Mondays that 399 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 3: are narrated not by me but by Jake Brennan. I basically, 400 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: in this intro quickly made the case for River Phoenix 401 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: being a one of one, not only an incredible actor, 402 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 3: but also that rare representation of popular culture in the 403 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 3: very moment that culture is shifting into something different. For River, 404 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 3: it was the transition from the nineteen eighties into the 405 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: nineties and his screen presence, his taste in the movies 406 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: and roles he took on. It was that era. He 407 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: wasn't Corey Feldman or Fred Savage or Alyssa Milano or 408 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: Drew Barrymore. Absolutely no shade thrown at any of those actors, 409 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: by the way, but River found a different gear, and 410 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: I think they would all probably agree with that if 411 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: they were being honest. Probably the actor who comes closest, 412 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: probably Ethan Hawke. I guess now that I'm thinking more 413 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 3: about that, But I stand by what I said about River, 414 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: and I also stand by what I said about how 415 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: when he died on Halloween Night in nineteen ninety three, 416 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: and then his death was followed very quickly by the 417 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 3: death of Kurt Cobaine that something in the culture was 418 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 3: forever changed. It was the end of an era, so 419 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: to speak, a very short era that had barely lasted 420 00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: a decade. 421 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: All right, that is hollywood Land. Make sure you are 422 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: subscribed to the hollywood Land feed on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 423 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, wherever you get your podcasts. You're not 424 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: only going to get archive episodes of hollywood Land with 425 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: me behind the mic, You're also going to get our 426 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: commentary on those episodes. You're going to get every week 427 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: Zeth's Rap Party, and our new addition to hollywood Land, 428 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: this screening Room, which is going to tie everything together 429 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: for you. Okay, you're going to get a full week 430 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: of fantastic movie history and movie analysis from none other 431 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: than doctor Zeth Lundy. Subscribe to hollywood Land. I'll be 432 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: back in a flash with exciting news for one particular 433 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: member of the disco community. You're not going to want 434 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: to miss this, all right. We are halfway through this 435 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: bonus episode. I gotta say it's it's flying by. I'm 436 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: drinking some incredible coffee. Great. I love that. I love 437 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: when the espresso machine is just working perfectly. It's got 438 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: the right amount of pressure. The Americano comes out like hmm, 439 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: it's just like it's it's it's a little extra and 440 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: I can't I don't know what I did different, same 441 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: beans I've been using for the last week. But this 442 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: cup of coffee just magnificent. Anyhow, not what I'm here 443 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: to talk about. What I'm here to talk about is 444 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: that last week, if you listened to the after Party, 445 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: you heard me discussing this Disgraceland listener named Mark. Now, 446 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: Mark wrote in texted actually six one seven nine, I 447 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: was six six sixty three eight. Mark knows the number. 448 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: Mark texted and shared a playlist that he's been curating 449 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: that is a collection of all the songs mentioned in 450 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: our episodes of Disgraceland, going all the way back to 451 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: episode one. This is incredible. This is so much work. 452 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: This playlist is amazing. I shouldn't say it's all the songs. 453 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: Excuse me. He hasn't finished this yet, Okay, but again, 454 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: Mark is pulling every tune that we mentioned that he 455 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: can find on Apple Music, every tune that we mentioned 456 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: in our episodes, and putting them into what is so 457 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: far our a ten hour playlist Now. I just checked 458 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: the playlist again a moment ago on Apple Music and 459 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: it's already been updated today. All right, here's just a handful. 460 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: Let's talk a handful of songs that are on this playlist. 461 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: And again, it's not just songs by the artists. It's 462 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: not just the number one songs that I mentioned, although 463 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: they're all in there. Okay, let's just see it. Gloria 464 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: by Them, Waterfalls by TLC, Let's talk about sex by 465 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Salt and Peppa Cocksucker Blues by The Rolling Stones, Shape 466 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: of You by Ed Shearing, The Race by tak Night, 467 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: Fever by Begs You and I by Rick James, I'm 468 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: Too Sexy by Wright said. We've had territorial pissings by Nirvana, 469 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: The Sign by Ace of Bass. I mean, this goes 470 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: on and on and on. Grateful Dead Post, Malone xxx, 471 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: ten Tasion Drake, Amy, Weinhouse, the Beatles. Just an incredible 472 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: playlist that is encompassing the world that we have built 473 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: here in Disgraceland. I'm going to share this playlist in 474 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: the Patreon chat for our all Access members to grab, 475 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: and I'll share it on Instagram perhaps x as well 476 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: later this week. Now, Mark, he writes, is a courier 477 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: who drives twenty five hundred miles a week and boasts 478 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: an oil change every two weeks. So dude has some 479 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: time to listen to some disgraceland and he's putting it 480 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: to good use. Mark. I'm super grateful Man. Mark writes that, Hey, 481 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely gonna keep going with the playlist. It's such 482 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: a cool cross section of popular music. Like it's a 483 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: guy from High Fidel that he was alive today. This 484 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: would be the record collection he's snorting sorting. Excuse me, Wait, 485 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: the guy from High Fidelity died. He didn't die, But 486 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: I know what you mean. Anyhow, Yeah, I love that. 487 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: I could hear. I could see those dudes in High 488 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: Fidelity listening to this playlist in a Champion Records. They're 489 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: a record store or is it Top five Records? I 490 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: can't remember. I think it's a Champion, isn't it. I 491 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: don't know. Someone let me know. Six month seven nine 492 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight Maybe Mark, you can know. 493 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 3: Mark. 494 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: You got sounds like you get a lot to do. Anyhow, Again, 495 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: I'm putting Mark's playlist in the Patreon chat or I'm 496 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna make it a post. I'm not sure what which, 497 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: but you'll be able to get it there in Patreon 498 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: and uh Mark. We're gonna gift you a year long 499 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: subscription to Patreons so you can listen ad free and 500 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 1: you can engage with your fellow Disgrace and All Access 501 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: members in the community chat hear what they have to 502 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: say about your playlist. We're so grateful that you did. 503 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: This is incredible and I want the rest of the 504 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: community to have access to it. And for that, I 505 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: hope you were giving you the subscription. I hope you 506 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 1: enjoy it. Speaking of All Access membership and members, I 507 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: would like to shout out new Disgraceland All Access member 508 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: Jessica Brown, who is supporting us as a Sound in 509 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: Fury member at our ten dollars tier and as such, 510 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: Jessica will be receiving our new monthly video podcast. This 511 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: film should be played loud in a couple of weeks. 512 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: The next movie soundtrack and score that we are covering 513 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: is Train Spotting. Jessica will be first in line to 514 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: receive that. Jessica, thank you for your support. We appreciate you. 515 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: Everyone else, be like Jessica, sign up for our sound 516 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: and Fury Tier. I'm Patreon, so you too can watch 517 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: and listen and watch. Though you can watch it, this 518 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: film should be played loud. You also get to help 519 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: me determine which subjects we're going to cover next in Disgraceland. 520 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: As I mentioned before, you get ad free listening and 521 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: all other exclusive disgrace Land content, mini episodes, and of 522 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: course the exclusive section of this after party which is 523 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: coming up right now disgracelandpod dot com. To become an 524 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: all access member disgrace Sland cop that exclusive ad free 525 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: community content like who the hell was Orion? And why 526 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: did Elvis's former record label release Orion's records? And how 527 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: did o'rian die? And why is it that I'm hearing 528 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: this Orion insanity now and I haven't heard it before? 529 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: Because this right here, Disgraceland is where all the music 530 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: history in Sanity lives and breeze, and we're going to 531 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: get into it right now. All right, guys, welcome back. 532 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: As you know, we've got over two hundred and fifty 533 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: episodes in the Disgraceland archive I mentioned. I mentioned the 534 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: Matthew Perry episode, which I encourage you to check out. 535 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: I also mentioned the Ramones mentioned the Stooges. We don't 536 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: have a Stooges episode. We have an Iggy Pop episode. 537 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: Matt's gonna have info show info for all these archive 538 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: episodpisodes in the show notes, so you can easily navigate 539 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: your way through the archive to listen to any of 540 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: our past episodes. All right, let's recap, shall we. Number one, 541 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: This week we are previewing the next season of Subjects 542 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: in Disgraceland. Number two. Our rewind episode this week is 543 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: on Cheff Baker. Number three. Next week a new episode 544 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: coming your way on Johnny Thunders of the New York Dolls. 545 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: Number four. ZEV gives you those Hollywood and crime vibes 546 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: in Hollywood Land, so make sure you're subscribed. Number five. 547 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: This film should be played loud. Our new video podcast 548 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: with our new episode on Goodfellas, is available for you 549 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: right now. We got a new one coming up on 550 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: train Spotting in a couple of weeks. You got to 551 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: be a Patreon member to cop thats. Go to disgracelandpod 552 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: dot com to become part of the disgrace Land community. 553 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: Number six six one seven nine oh six six six 554 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: three eight. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark 555 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: corners of music history, O Ryan. So keep calling, texting 556 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: with your answers to this week's question of the week, 557 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: or with whatever else you want to talk about. Don't forget, 558 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: dis Goes. This isn't just content. It's a community, a 559 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: community of the obsessed. No one cares about music, books, 560 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: records and the crime and grime that ties them all 561 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: together like you do. And well that's a disgrace, all right. 562 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: The King Elvis Presley died for real, he really did. 563 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: He died on August sixteenth, nineteen seventy seven. And here's 564 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: what America was listening to on that day. Number one 565 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: Best of My Love The Emotions, last week one weeks 566 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: on Chart twelve, peak position one, number two Jet Airliner 567 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: Steve Miller Band, last week two look weeks on Chart twelve, 568 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: peak positions eight, number three, Looking for a Love Bobby 569 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: Womack and Valentinos number last week number three weeks on Trust, 570 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: peak position nine, five weeks on number four. What You're 571 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: Gonna Do Poblo Cruise number last week number five weeks 572 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: on Chart eleven, peak position five, number five You and 573 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: Me Pallas Cooper, last week nine weeks on Charge. So 574 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: quit talking and start mixing cult it