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Speaker 2: Joe with normal takes the wed Day.

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Speaker 3: I'm married out in ham. I'm Carol Markowitz. How are you,

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Speaker 3: Mary Catherine?

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 4: I'm making it, man, We got it. We got through

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Speaker 4: the holidays. I flew down to the Sugar Bowl to

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Speaker 1: But everybody was very nice.

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Speaker 4: Even as I walked back on Bourbon Street among the

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Speaker 4: revelers who.

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Speaker 1: Were all Ole Miss fans.

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Speaker 4: Everything went fine, aside from the actual result of the game.

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Speaker 3: Any New Year's resolutions.

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Speaker 4: Not in particular, just to kind of get myself back

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Speaker 1: I made it to the gym today. What about you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean other than like, you know, see the

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Speaker 2: going to focus more on developing friendships this year. I've

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Speaker 2: been in Florida four years, and like, I know a

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Speaker 2: Like I have to. I have to just do better

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Right, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: Also four years in Florida.

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Speaker 2: I told the Internet that it was January second. It

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Speaker 2: turns out it was January third. So in general I

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Speaker 2: just need to get more organized. But yeah, four years Floridian.

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Speaker 2: Very happy about that and couldn't be glad, you know,

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Speaker 2: couldn't be better than when mum Donnie became mayor of

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Speaker 1: Actually that four years happened fast. Well.

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Speaker 4: Another person had some New Year's resolutions that he executed

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Speaker 4: on on January third, that Donald Do you know that

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Speaker 4: President Donald Trump engaging in his foreign policy doctrine, which

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Speaker 4: is sort of you can just do things you could

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Speaker 4: He did those things in Venezuela on January third, and

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Speaker 4: the dark of night with one hundred and fifty aircraft

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Speaker 4: executing a precision apprehension illegitimate President Nicholas Maduro YEP from

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Speaker 4: Caracas along with his wife, who have both been indicted

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Speaker 4: in New York for several years now, carried them out

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Speaker 1: But Maduro is in a cell in New York right now.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, you know it's funny because if you

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Speaker 2: had asked me on January twod should the US go

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Speaker 2: death not. But now that we've done it successfully, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: that's good. My concern would have been losing American lives.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been international law, it wouldn't have been

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if we should do this.

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Speaker 1: Well, so I'm with you. I like a little I

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Speaker 4: Say this part first, watching General Raisin Kane explain this

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Speaker 4: operation after it is already done and everyone's back, yep.

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Speaker 4: I think it's been dominant to note it took a

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Speaker 4: episode of Stranger Things, so they were, They were in

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Speaker 4: Watching our military so insanely competent and its leaders be

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, so good, almost like nothing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 4: Someone said today of Venezuela and named Delta Force, Donald

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Speaker 4: that part just is inspiring to me. And I think

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Speaker 1: What happens next.

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Speaker 4: However, I do think Secretary of State Marco Rubio has

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Speaker 1: Nine took over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so since his twenties, he's been like, what would

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Speaker 1: And so that makes me feel better about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, speaking of competence, like, does anybody appear more

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Speaker 3: I just think he is on buyer.

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Speaker 2: Really, the memes about him taking on more jobs, like oh,

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Speaker 2: Like I would trust him to do all of that,

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Speaker 2: and he's just fantastic. It's so funny how starved we

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Speaker 2: it surprising that that grown up is Donald Trump?

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Speaker 3: Yes, but he is.

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Speaker 2: He's the grown up in the room who is like

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Speaker 3: I'm so impressed. I am just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Everybody who's listened to me and has watched me and

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Speaker 2: and yet here he is just exceeding all expectations on

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Speaker 4: Well, I think what he's engaged in doing, which I

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Speaker 4: in such dramatic ways after the Knistan pull out and

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Speaker 4: that right. I think people are believing him, and one

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Speaker 4: to the idea that this is our hemisphere. We're taking

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Speaker 4: care of business. Thissus Maduro is from the beginning illegitimate. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Taves was illegitimate. He just takes over and starts nationalizing businesses.

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Speaker 4: They of course took Venezuela, which is an incredibly resource

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I've been there years.

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Speaker 2: I've been there as a child. It was, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, there was a time period where Russian

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Speaker 2: more than once. It was gorgeous and somewhere that, you know.

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Speaker 2: I hope tourism comes back. I hope they come back.

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Speaker 2: I hope the whole place recovers. The glee from Venezuelans

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Speaker 2: is just so beautiful to watch. I've loved every minute.

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Speaker 2: I think we have some clips we're going to play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Because it's not just the glee from them, it

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Speaker 4: is also, to my mind, one of the most thorough

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Speaker 4: social media punishments for libs that I have seen, because

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Speaker 4: Venezuelans keep taking to social media to say, guys, you're

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Speaker 4: getting this wrong, right, let me explain why. So we

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Speaker 5: This is a video for all those liberals and leftists,

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Speaker 5: mostly American that I've seen in the media complaining about

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Speaker 5: what's going on in Venezuela, complaining about this military attacks

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Speaker 5: against military buildings, against government buildings that we're attacked today

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Speaker 5: in the early morning. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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Speaker 5: We have had twenty seven years of dictatorship in our

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Speaker 5: that has killed us, and that made us go away

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Speaker 5: have to do that? Like you do you even put

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Speaker 5: yourself in the situation of what does that mean?

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Speaker 4: All right? And then we have another one. This is

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Speaker 4: the nature of many of them. My feet is just

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Speaker 4: full of them. And it's a delight because this is

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Speaker 6: Are you an American or other First world or with

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Speaker 6: democracy privilege, who's all of a sudden, very very concern

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Speaker 6: about the United States taking the oil of Venezuela. Well,

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Speaker 6: let me tell you something, fear not, because Iran and

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Speaker 6: Cuba have been receiving free Venezuelan oil for decades in

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Speaker 6: exchange of protecting the dictator that has been exiling, killing us,

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Speaker 6: and disappearing us for twenty six years. So please, you

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Speaker 6: should be more concerned about the dictator that is killing us,

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Speaker 6: exiling us, and disappearing us than the United States taking

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Speaker 6: our oil. We are not concerned about that, So why

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Speaker 6: are you concerned about that? Be concerned about the imperial

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I saw another influencer say, yeah, you know, the United

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Speaker 2: States is there for oil? What do you think Russia

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Speaker 2: and Iran are there for their rapa recipes?

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Speaker 4: Yes, there has been a lot of quality commentary mm

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Speaker 4: hmm on this, and yes, what do you think those

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Speaker 4: forces were there for? They were there to coalesce close

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Speaker 4: to America, to put to give a foothold to.

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Speaker 1: All of our worst enemies in that area.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Venezuela, of course has a close relationship

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Speaker 4: with Russia. Russia put out a very strongly worded statement

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Speaker 1: When it came down to it. Yeah, l was whisked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the legal part of it, Law Professor Glenn Reynolds,

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Speaker 2: he's instapundon. He's one of the people I turned to

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Speaker 2: to break down stuff like this, he writes, brought to

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Speaker 2: the United States and put on trial Noriega. He's talking

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Speaker 2: about Manuel Noriega, and that's kind of the precedent for this.

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Speaker 2: And his lawyers made the same arguments that Maduro supporters

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Speaker 2: on the left are making now, violations of the UN Charter,

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Speaker 2: illegal rendition, head of state, community, et cetera. None of

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Speaker 2: these convince the courts, and for reasons that are likely

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Speaker 2: to obtain here. Of course, one wild card may be

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Speaker 2: the Trump rule, which is that anything Trump does is

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Speaker 2: judicially suspect. Basically, all the best people know Trump is

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Speaker 2: no good. That's stupid, but it would be wrong to

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Speaker 3: So that's really where we are.

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Speaker 2: Whether the courts will find that this was an illegal

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Speaker 2: action because Donald Trump was involved. But the Southern District

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Speaker 1: The time, and they're proud of it. They're like, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: As it stands now, Jim Garretty writes about out who's

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Speaker 1: Meet the new boss, the vice president of the old boss.

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Speaker 4: In the early morning hours of Saturday, in the US

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Speaker 3: Everyone wants to eat, so.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, they'd like to eat something other than zoo animals,

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Speaker 3: Be right back with more on normally.

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Speaker 2: We are back on normally where Also while we were off,

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Speaker 2: But the big news today is that Minnesota Governor Tim

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so funny, because I was told that the

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Speaker 4: Like many Minnesota's, I was glad to turn the page

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Speaker 4: For the last several years, an organized group of criminals

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but yes, it's a He really kicked over quickly

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I know.

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Speaker 4: And it's not at all obvious that everyone in this

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing to me, is this, all of

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Speaker 3: It's just such bs.

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Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, and I said this on the

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Speaker 3: But when I see a fraud scandal break in Brooklyn,

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Speaker 2: And if it is, all of us are like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Nobody says that.

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Speaker 2: Nobody at all argues that fighting crime on behalf of

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Speaker 3: Like again, any it could happen anywhere, and.

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Speaker 2: That actually should be the message that it's not limited

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, let's let's get on all of that please,

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Speaker 4: And I do they always say in all of these waste,

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Speaker 4: wait for it, childcare yep, while it's being given away

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Speaker 2: That's right, and I really hope that Republicans don't let

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Speaker 3: This is just it's such a.

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Speaker 2: I will say the Republican Study Committee members, Representatives Radfinstead,

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Speaker 2: all of these scandals are showing us that there's so

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Speaker 2: much money where people are just you know that there's

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Speaker 2: already a universal basic income for so many people in

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Speaker 2: It's wrong, it's unfair, it hurts us all. We need

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Speaker 2: to stop it, and like this is where Republicans can

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Speaker 2: really shine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it increasingly makes a bunch of honest people go,

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Speaker 4: why am I being?

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Speaker 3: Why am I working?

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Speaker 4: Why am I trying to open a childcare center and

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Speaker 4: getting told by the state that I have to meet

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Speaker 4: all these regulations when none of these other people have.

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Speaker 2: Right, Why are we putting on makeup and doing this

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Speaker 2: podcas so when we could just open a childcare center,

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Speaker 2: Like that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: I'd be great at a no childcare childcare center, say

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Speaker 4: fantastic at that for millions of dollars. One last thing,

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Speaker 4: which is that it looks like Minnesota Senator Amy Klobachar

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Speaker 4: you have Mike Lindell, the my pillow guy who has announced,

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Speaker 4: to take on at Amy clobchart And by the way,

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Speaker 4: one more thing, as I said, no one in power

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Speaker 4: as a Democrat didn't know what was going on here. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Clobachar is gonna sound all tough like she's, oh.

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Speaker 1: I'm the one to get to the bottom of this.

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Speaker 1: And she might even be convincing because she is a

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Speaker 1: tough lady. But she wasn't being tough on it before.

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Speaker 3: Now, why not, right, she hoped nobody would find out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be right back with one more segment of

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Speaker 4: All right, we're back on normally with a little bit

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Speaker 4: of now it can be told. It turned out that

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Speaker 4: in academia and in San Francisco, the Libs are learning

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Speaker 4: they were wrong and we were right a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I welcome these realizations. The first one

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Speaker 4: comes from Harvard President Alan Garber, who said in an

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Speaker 4: interview that the university went wrong by allowing faculty activism

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Speaker 4: in the classroom, arguing professor's political views have chilled free

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Speaker 4: speech and debate on campus. Part of the quote is

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Speaker 4: how many students would actually be willing to go toe

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Speaker 4: to toe against a professor who's expressed a firm view

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Speaker 4: about a controversial issue. I think he's obviously right about this,

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Speaker 4: but it's not just the expressing right. The expressing is

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Speaker 4: not the problem. It's that you only hired people who

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Speaker 4: believe one thing, and part of what they believe is

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Speaker 4: that everyone must believe what they believe. So that doesn't

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Speaker 4: really allow for a lot of back and forth.

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Speaker 2: It really doesn't. And look, the kids who are different

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Speaker 2: from their professors know to cater to them. I wrote

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Speaker 2: a paper in college that I found a few years

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Speaker 2: ago about how the family is an outdated got an a,

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Speaker 4: So I found I found a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: squishy gun control paper when I was back at my parents'

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Speaker 4: house and.

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Speaker 1: Was like, whoa.

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Speaker 4: Somebody, somebody definitely signaled to me that I was not

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Speaker 4: going to get an error if I didn't say this.

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Speaker 4: But yes, and I think it requires kids being braver now,

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Speaker 4: adults in college. But it requires them being braver now

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Speaker 4: because the punishments are worse than when I was in school.

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Speaker 4: And even when I was in school, you were ripping

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Speaker 4: something to stick up for what you believed. So I

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Speaker 4: appreciate him acknowledging be told, yeah, we'll see what happens. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 4: in San Francisco, Jonathan Carl of ABC traveled to interview

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Speaker 4: the San Francisco Mayor Daniel Lourie about the challenges that

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Speaker 4: San Francisco faces and this is what he's realized.

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Speaker 1: We have a clip of him.

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Speaker 7: What went wrong in this city? I mean, San Francisco

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Speaker 7: had become the symbol of in some ways progressive or

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Speaker 7: liberal failure.

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Speaker 2: For what happened here.

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Speaker 7: We lost our way as a city. We all know

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Speaker 7: that we had, you know, career politicians that were focused

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Speaker 7: on what was next for them instead of what was

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Speaker 7: best for San Franciscans. And what I've tried to do

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Speaker 7: is focus on getting results for the people of San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: And what specifically was.

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Speaker 5: It was it a approach of not enforcing the laws.

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Speaker 7: I think we got away from the basics of government

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Speaker 7: now today, if you come to San Francisco to commit

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Speaker 7: a crime, we're going to catch you and we're going

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Speaker 7: to prosecute you. If you come to San Francisco to

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Speaker 7: deal drugs or to do drugs, we're going to prosecute you,

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Speaker 7: and we're not going to tolerate it for as long

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Speaker 7: as I'm mayor, and I think we sort of had

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Speaker 7: a lais a fair attitude. We said, Okay, it's somebody's

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Speaker 7: right to do drugs. Our progressive value sort of overtook

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Speaker 7: a common.

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Speaker 4: Sense, sure did bars on the ground. Man, we will

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Speaker 4: be prosecuting crimes.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, they at laissez faire, they're only

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Speaker 4: laissez fair toward criminals.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem.

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Speaker 4: Normal people who live in San Francisco have to follow

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Speaker 4: the rules, and the rules are onerous and terrible and

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Speaker 4: make you want to leave San Francisco, which is what

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Speaker 4: a bunch of companies have done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael Malice was in New York the last few

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Speaker 2: days and he posted to his ex about how everything

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Speaker 2: in like the local stores and the Dwayne Reads and

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Speaker 2: the CVS's, is locked up and you have to go

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Speaker 2: find an employee for everything and how is that a

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Speaker 2: business model? And of course it's not. And all of

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Speaker 2: these companies are going to leave these places that make

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Speaker 2: it so impossible. I was also in Singapore over the break.

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Speaker 2: It was my second time there, and I get it.

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Speaker 2: We shouldn't have the death penalty for like spitting on

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Speaker 2: the ground, Okay, but what if what if we just

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Speaker 2: enforced the laws that we have with the punishments that

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Speaker 2: we have for those laws, Like, how would that go?

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Speaker 1: It's so crazy. It just might work.

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Speaker 3: But let's see what San Francisco does here, and.

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Speaker 4: We'll see what happens with Mom Donnie, who's currently weighing

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Speaker 4: in on the Venezuela raid because we really need him

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Speaker 4: on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll see.

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Speaker 2: We didn't even get to talk about Mom Donnie, but

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Speaker 2: that's okay because there'll be lots of opportunities to.

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Speaker 3: Talk about Zora, Mom Donnie in the future. Thanks for

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Speaker 3: joining us on Normally.

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Speaker 2: Normally airs Tuesdays and Thursdays, and you could subscribe anywhere

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Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. Get in touch with us at

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