Speaker 1: Welcome in friendos to leaning off on Fantasy pros. I
Speaker 1: am Chris Welsh and joining me today is all of
Speaker 1: the energy. It is going to hit you like a
Speaker 1: ton of bricks. He is mister energy. Mister Michael Govier
Speaker 1: is in the house, sitting in the co host seat
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 2: What's up, Michael Welsh?
Speaker 3: How you doing? My friend?
Speaker 4: We cut it closer this morning, but it's morning for you.
Speaker 4: We've hitting noon on the East Coast, and I'm feeling good.
Speaker 3: I'm ready to rock. I want to talk baseball with you.
Speaker 4: And I don't think there's anything else I'd rather be
Speaker 4: doing right now. Maybe taking a nap, but I can
Speaker 4: always do that later because you're come first.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the chat, I said top of the morning
Speaker 1: to everybody, or as we would say on the West coast,
Speaker 1: good afternoon, because it's nine am here you guys over
Speaker 1: on your East coast, you're having lunch and you're doing
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. I don't want to touch
Speaker 1: any food you guys are having all of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And as Kobe I was mentioning cutting a little short,
Speaker 1: it was about twenty seconds before.
Speaker 2: But I believe you just moved. I believe you just
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Speaker 3: Know you?
Speaker 4: Usually those of you that know me, if you've never
Speaker 4: seen me before, honey, how you doing. But those that
Speaker 4: have seen my show, the plots of podcast or seen
Speaker 4: me elsewhere, Ah, he's got top notched background. So I
Speaker 4: always make sure I got the green screen rolling with
Speaker 4: quality lighting because that's just what I do. But I
Speaker 4: am doing my very first show ever from the great
Speaker 4: country known as Canada.
Speaker 3: It's right, I am in Canada right now.
Speaker 2: Wow, you're from the Canada right now.
Speaker 1: Also, big news if you guys don't follow Michael on Twitter,
Speaker 1: MJ Govier Michael, it was just announced yesterday that is
Speaker 1: joining FTN. So he's got his own podcast, a Plaza podcast,
Speaker 1: but also going to be over with FTN. So congratulations,
Speaker 1: my friend. I think you're going to be doing a
Speaker 1: bunch of football content. So the baseball people will boo
Speaker 1: and hiss at you here.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, you'll probably have some baseball content
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 3: No, baseball is very much a part of it. It is.
Speaker 4: That's like I'm doing college football stuff as well, but
Speaker 4: baseball was the main thing to our main man's lad Settler.
Speaker 4: He really wants to grow the baseball product there and
Speaker 4: we're all about baseball there, so that will definitely be
Speaker 4: a focus there.
Speaker 1: You go, Well, Michael and I are going to go
Speaker 1: through all the motions with you, as we've had a
Speaker 1: star studded lineup the entire week of everybody from Mike
Speaker 1: Kurlin to Nick Pollock to the debut of the Wonky Penguin.
Speaker 2: I hope you guys have been injoying it.
Speaker 1: But let's get into baseball and we've got all the
Speaker 1: things under the sun. And number one, the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Angels hit seven solo home runs last night, two by Otani,
Speaker 1: and they lost eight to seven. Magnificent. That's a piece
Speaker 1: of artwork right there, Mike. I have a couple notes here.
Speaker 1: These are both from Kodify and I found these fascinating.
Speaker 1: Sho Heo Tani became the first Angel ever to hit
Speaker 1: multiple home runs in three differ differ games that the
Speaker 1: team lost in one season. Codify then doubled down the
Speaker 1: most multi homer games that resulted in losses in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two. Shoho Tani is the leader with three. As
Speaker 1: I just mentioned there, were thirty six other batters that
Speaker 1: had one. I don't know if you've looked at the show.
Speaker 1: Have you looked at the show sheet yet?
Speaker 3: I certainly have. Yes.
Speaker 2: All right, then you know because.
Speaker 1: Number two on that list Kyle Schwarber. So Kyle Schwarber
Speaker 1: had two that multi homers that resulted in losses. Thirty
Speaker 1: six other show HEO Tani three. That is a spectacle
Speaker 1: that I think is hard to defeat and also brings
Speaker 1: up a question to me, Michael, we have spent so
Speaker 1: much time on this show throughout the season, me and
Speaker 1: PS and PA talking about Shoho Tani and the MVP odds.
Speaker 2: Do you think things like.
Speaker 1: These are going to swing the pendulum back? You know,
Speaker 1: we had Judge and then we had Tani come in
Speaker 1: like a fury take over the lead. I'm actually gonna go, look,
Speaker 1: I haven't see what the odds are, but do you
Speaker 1: think I'm not sure where you stand on the MVP
Speaker 1: race in the al in general if it is Aaron
Speaker 1: Judges Shohio Tani. But is this the type of stuff
Speaker 1: that you think that is gonna make him fall off
Speaker 1: of this lead?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Boy?
Speaker 4: I thought Judge would tank second half. In fact, at Fantrax.
Speaker 4: We did these quick hitter fun clickbaity posts, So, hey,
Speaker 4: who is the guy who's gonna fall apart as an
Speaker 4: outfielder or who's the hitter?
Speaker 3: You're fading in the second half?
Speaker 4: And I chose Aaron Judge as a hitter to fade
Speaker 4: just because he was so good that I couldn't believe
Speaker 4: he could continue that pace. Sometimes that's all it is
Speaker 4: to me. I just think when a player does something
Speaker 4: so poorly, they're not gonna be as bad as they
Speaker 4: looked either. You know, I never believe it'll go for
Speaker 4: that long. But Judge continue to kick it in the
Speaker 4: second half. But what Otani has done is so legendary.
Speaker 4: And I've been sticking with Otani to win the MVP
Speaker 4: no matter what, because he is two in one.
Speaker 3: He is both sides of the Oriel.
Speaker 4: Cookie, you know, and you get the fun, You get
Speaker 4: all of it with Otan.
Speaker 5: It's so incredible that even my words of me getting
Speaker 5: louder and getting more passionate about it still will not
Speaker 5: tell you or allow me to express how incredible it
Speaker 5: is what Otani does as a pitcher who's dominant and
Speaker 5: a hitter who's dominant.
Speaker 4: It's amazing. I'm staying with Otani all the way. I
Speaker 4: don't care what the yards are. He's gonna win the
Speaker 4: MVP unless unless Judge hits a really high home run
Speaker 4: mark that we haven't seen in a minute, and that
Speaker 4: might be the only thing that changes it. But otherwise
Speaker 4: it's Otani's game.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, pretty much what he's doing.
Speaker 3: Bye bye, Yeah, well that's true. Yeah, he is.
Speaker 2: Exactly what he's doing.
Speaker 1: So I looked at the odds, we're back into just
Speaker 1: fun land here on DraftKings.
Speaker 2: Is just what I happen to pull up. Aaron Judge
Speaker 2: is the.
Speaker 1: Current favorite at minus one seventy five and Otani is
Speaker 1: now plus three point fifty. So this is swam the
Speaker 1: last week and a half where you're getting three and
Speaker 1: a half to one back on your odds on Atani
Speaker 1: because the struggles are real. The offensive output is kind
Speaker 1: of tapered back a little bit. Pitching has been okay,
Speaker 1: but you haven't seen the dominant performances.
Speaker 2: And it also what I think it's.
Speaker 1: Very interesting is it shows the market where Otani is
Speaker 1: the leader when he is doing unhuman like things. When
Speaker 1: he has four straight games of ten strikeouts, he immediately
Speaker 1: jumps back. But as soon as that goes away, as
Speaker 1: soon as he becomes human again and he struggles on
Speaker 1: any point, it immediately is going back to Judge. Now
Speaker 1: where the vote ends up.
Speaker 2: Going is going to be really interesting.
Speaker 1: But for the first time, I do kind of wonder
Speaker 1: if Judge hits sixty and Otani keeps kind of struggling
Speaker 1: with this Angels team that's falling apart, would voters really
Speaker 1: turn it over at this point just out of like
Speaker 1: I mentioned this very early on, because we just can't
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: We just can't keep giving it to this guy for
Speaker 2: the next.
Speaker 1: Five or ten years. The odds have jumped. If you're
Speaker 1: still an Atani believer, three and a half is a
Speaker 1: pretty good number that you guys can still get on
Speaker 1: if you would like two and you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit curious. I'm gonna text Joe, I'm gonna we'll
Speaker 1: get to check it next week if he's turned anything
Speaker 1: about that. A couple other headline pieces, Edwin Diez gets
Speaker 1: a six out save versus the Mets as they beat
Speaker 1: their I'm sorry as they beat with the Mets. They
Speaker 1: beat the Brave six to four, and we had that
Speaker 1: note there yesterday about he could have the highest k
Speaker 1: per nine in all of baseball, which is a Bonker's number.
Speaker 1: This and we've got a question or a thing that's
Speaker 1: gonna come up here in just a tiny bit, Justin
Speaker 1: Verlander pitched six innings, giving up zero runs, two hits,
Speaker 1: one walk, five strikeouts. He reached the one and thirty
Speaker 1: innings mark, which triggered a twenty five million dollar player
Speaker 1: option for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: Go Via.
Speaker 2: You know, I was.
Speaker 1: Looking at a lot of just the pitcher numbers, and
Speaker 1: as I've done my redraft ranks here, one of the
Speaker 1: things that stood out to me is I feel like
Speaker 1: I want to be weird about Verlander, Like I don't
Speaker 1: want to put him like crazy high.
Speaker 2: But when you look at the fifteen win total of
Speaker 2: the sub to.
Speaker 1: Era on the season, how high is verse as far
Speaker 1: as ranks go, rest the season sps like you get
Speaker 1: Jacob de gromdback Sandyo. I mean him and Sanio Contray
Speaker 1: the only two guys with the sub to era right now.
Speaker 1: You know Verlander, he's older, He's on a great team,
Speaker 1: is it? It is obviously trustworthy, But where does he
Speaker 1: sit on the pantheon of other SPS right now.
Speaker 4: Coming out of the All Star Gate. There in the
Speaker 4: second half, I did some show. I can't remember what
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 3: I'm so busy, I have so many shows.
Speaker 4: To do, guys, sir, I can't remember where I was.
Speaker 4: But there was talk about, hey, Verlander, is this fluke?
Speaker 3: Was this real? Are you fading him? The second half?
Speaker 4: And I was buying him all the way back to
Speaker 4: the preseason. I didn't get enough shares because his stock
Speaker 4: started to really rise too quickly, and I was like, ah,
Speaker 4: I was getting a little too high. But when he
Speaker 4: was around EIGHTYP one hundred earlier in the draft season,
Speaker 4: I was all for it because as a Tigers fan,
Speaker 4: I've seen this guy in his mechanics and his delivery,
Speaker 4: and they're so effortless. They're so smooth that even though yes,
Speaker 4: he's thirty nine, he's coming off to you. I wasn't
Speaker 4: worried about it, Chris, I really wasn't, because this guy
Speaker 4: takes care of himself too, and due to those natural mechanics.
Speaker 4: I just felt that the way things are now, you
Speaker 4: could pitch in your forties and it's happened in the past.
Speaker 4: Nolan Ryan was a fluke, obviously, but I'm buying Verlander.
Speaker 3: All day long. I'm not fading him, and I think he's.
Speaker 4: I think he's right there, Top twelve starting pitcher rest
Speaker 4: of season. The Astros are competing big time World Series aspirations.
Speaker 3: They need him.
Speaker 4: He wants those opportunities. He's always been a clutch pitcher.
Speaker 4: I loved when he would destroy the Yankees back in
Speaker 4: the day when he was a Tiger in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Those were some of my favorite moments ever.
Speaker 2: Used to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's amazing, So I'm all about it. Top twelve easy, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And the better way to have asked that question is
Speaker 1: really like where does he sit? That would have pay
Speaker 1: on a better way for me to phrase it, because
Speaker 1: it's like, obviously we're in and everything like that.
Speaker 2: It's just like when I was doing my ranks.
Speaker 1: You've got your top two tiers, which I think are
Speaker 1: quite to like roughly your top ten overall sps.
Speaker 2: But like the grouping I have him in is out.
Speaker 2: You know what, Let's do this real quick. Let' see
Speaker 2: if you can do it really quick.
Speaker 1: Al Contra, de gram Otanizer and Verlander, those are five.
Speaker 1: I have those five in a grouping. How would you
Speaker 1: rank those. I actually just gave everybody that's that is
Speaker 1: my current setup before I released my Redraft rank update.
Speaker 1: But al Contra, de Gram, Otani Verlander that is my
Speaker 1: five of that grouping.
Speaker 2: How would you how would you rank those.
Speaker 4: Contra? I think I'm going al contra one. Okay, he's
Speaker 4: my guy, He's to be more my guy. Now I'll
Speaker 4: start saying everyone's my guy. By the end of the show,
Speaker 4: it'll be kind of ridiculous, will be nobody left.
Speaker 3: But it's a contra.
Speaker 4: Schurzer Otani de Gram and then yeah, yeah, I think, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: And Verlander fifteen wins currently over on the betting odds
Speaker 1: here too, he is the lead over McClanahan and it's
Speaker 1: minus one thirty four Cy Young plus two hund two
Speaker 1: to one with Shane McClanahan. The more that I look
Speaker 1: at it, you have a sub, I don't think anything
Speaker 1: else matters, Caper nine anything. If you have close to
Speaker 1: twenty wins and you've got a sub to Era, you're
Speaker 1: just gonna take it home. And that's where he's at.
Speaker 1: So you know, Joe is gonna be absolutely unreal. Thank god,
Speaker 1: he's not here to have to listen.
Speaker 2: To that a fun thing. In the NL.
Speaker 1: The gap is quite a bit larger, al Contra minus
Speaker 1: two thirty with Burns at plus.
Speaker 2: Seven fifty, so seven and a half. So that has been.
Speaker 1: All but locked up. As far as the UH, the
Speaker 1: betting market goes, Wow.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, are that against Burns? Burns fallen that much
Speaker 4: this year? I mean, I know he hasn't been as
Speaker 4: dominant as he was.
Speaker 3: Recently, but he's still really good, isn't he.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, but but I don't. That's not
Speaker 2: a marker of him not being good.
Speaker 1: It's just a it's just a dictation that al Contra
Speaker 1: is so much better than everybody else in.
Speaker 2: The NL that it's not remotely close.
Speaker 1: As far as the top ten pitchers on ERA, you've
Speaker 1: got four coming from the NL, and number two is
Speaker 1: al Contra with a one eight eight ERA. Corvin Burns
Speaker 1: has got a two four nine. Burns doesn't have the
Speaker 1: wins al Contra does. He doesn't have close to the innings.
Speaker 1: What he does have is the strikeouts. So you have
Speaker 1: a two and a half ERA with the strikeouts, but
Speaker 1: al Contras in the double he's got double Digi's on
Speaker 1: the wins and he's got a Supreme Era four to
Speaker 1: two war I think, which is highest of any pitcher currently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: Is double digit's gone double digit's and Corvin Burns a three,
Speaker 1: so he's almost got a one and a half higher
Speaker 1: war than him. So that's why the market is just
Speaker 1: so done and over and it's al contra big time
Speaker 1: injury front, Kyle Tucker was scratched from Thursday's lineup speaking
Speaker 1: the Astros with an illness, but he should be returning
Speaker 1: this weekend. Actually, i' gonna get this one out of
Speaker 1: the way. Cole calhountin day al fine. Clayton Kershaw left
Speaker 1: Thursday's start the fifth inning with back tightness. He's gonna
Speaker 1: undergo test on Friday, LBA. The trade deadlines for Fantasy
Speaker 1: might just they'll be looming. Can you trust Clayton Kershaw
Speaker 1: for the rest of this year? Would you be in
Speaker 1: any way okay to buy? And if you owned, would
Speaker 1: you be getting out as.
Speaker 2: Quick as possible?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Out. Don't want him, don't have him, I don't. I
Speaker 4: don't have a single share. I don't roster him in
Speaker 4: any league. I can't trust him. He's been he's been alright,
Speaker 4: you know, he does what he does still, but the injury,
Speaker 4: especially when you hear the back, Chris, you know that's
Speaker 4: bad news. We know the back history with that man
Speaker 4: in LA, so I'm not wanting to do anything with him,
Speaker 4: especially down the stretch.
Speaker 3: I try to sell.
Speaker 4: If somebody's like, hey, I believe in him, go make
Speaker 4: a move, even if it's half priced.
Speaker 3: Get out of it now.
Speaker 4: If you're in a head to head situation where you
Speaker 4: need a lock in a roster to make a playoff push,
Speaker 4: I don't think you could trust Kershaw right now.
Speaker 3: He won't be there for you.
Speaker 4: And you're gonna need pictures that you can rely on
Speaker 4: post trade deadline because it'll be no more moves for
Speaker 4: you to make. You'll only be able to rely on
Speaker 4: the waiver wire. Depending how big or small your league is,
Speaker 4: it could be, you know, difficult to find someone that's
Speaker 4: gonna be useful.
Speaker 2: What's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Really interesting is if this team a decides to go
Speaker 1: to a six man rotation.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna be really curious about.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go back to stretching them out and b
Speaker 1: if Kershawn's out, what is the full move that they
Speaker 1: do because you have Dustin May who's getting close. Dustin May,
Speaker 1: I think, is going to have to rehab starts more.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna go full games. I
Speaker 1: think they would limit his innings the rest of this year.
Speaker 2: Coming off of TJ.
Speaker 1: You've got Walker Buehler that is in the wings here
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then you've got Bobby Miller. Bobby
Speaker 1: Miller top prospect they ended up not trading, who has
Speaker 1: been phenomenal this year. I do think in the short
Speaker 1: term Bobby Miller could be an option as I'm looking
Speaker 1: through this, because Dustin May is probably still a week
Speaker 1: and a half before he comes back, and Bueller's a
Speaker 1: little bit more. But when you get those guys back healthy,
Speaker 1: I think this team moves to a six man rotation.
Speaker 1: Bueller on the back end and Dustin May plays a
Speaker 1: bullpen roll. And what you can do is they could
Speaker 1: piggyback and they could limit Kershaw's innings, or.
Speaker 2: They could just hold him back a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I still have some trust in Kershaw, but it's
Speaker 1: not in that I'm gonna get full, big, deep games
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna get a bunch of starts the rest
Speaker 1: of the way through. I think it's gonna be relatively
Speaker 1: short termed. I think the Dodgers are gonna start manipulating
Speaker 1: on the back half of the year to make sure
Speaker 1: everything's okay because they have so much depth. Like I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you literally have what team wouldn't kill to get Walker, Bueller,
Speaker 1: Dustin May, and Bobby Miller into a rotation. And these
Speaker 1: are like at this point would be six, seven and
Speaker 1: eight for them.
Speaker 4: So can we trust Bueler laugh? Are you confident that
Speaker 4: he's gonna be ready to roll?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, But see that's the thing is I think with
Speaker 1: all of these guys, they're gonna eat It's gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna eat each other up. Like Buehler, you don't want
Speaker 1: to go and have one hundred you know, uh any
Speaker 1: any pitch games. You don't want to one hundred pitch games.
Speaker 1: You don't want to have Dustin May go deep. You're
Speaker 1: probably not gonna want to have Kurshaw go deep. So
Speaker 1: I think you could have guys piggybacking on each other
Speaker 1: six men rotation to lower them. They're just gonna monopolize
Speaker 1: each other, which is the So could you maximize it
Speaker 1: if you were in a league that had like maybe
Speaker 1: minimal starts per week or minimal innings per week. I
Speaker 1: actually think that Kershaw could still have some value in
Speaker 1: that if you're if you're in that limit when he's
Speaker 1: out there. But the problem is is I just don't
Speaker 1: know how trustworthy it's going to be. And uh, he's
Speaker 1: not a trade four. I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: completely trade off of just for like seventy cents on
Speaker 1: the dollar, but I would look to move off of him.
Speaker 1: But you're gonna probably have to wait till he returns
Speaker 1: and that that pass. That's that's the trick here. He
Speaker 1: might allow for bus grade.
Speaker 2: Deadlines are done.
Speaker 3: Yeah for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a trivia question, and I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: it out to everybody and then we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Keep moving here.
Speaker 1: So talking about this era, run two players currently in
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball qualified pictures have an under two ERA.
Speaker 1: One of those is as old as me, thirty nine
Speaker 1: years old.
Speaker 2: Here's your trivia question.
Speaker 1: Who are the only pitchers in the al NL modern
Speaker 1: era since nineteen to post an ELRA under two that
Speaker 1: qualifies for the league lead at the age thirty nine
Speaker 1: or older. That's weird how they say that at age
Speaker 1: thirty nine or older. I will give you guys the
Speaker 1: answer here in a little bit go via. You can't
Speaker 1: answer because he has the sheet. But again the question
Speaker 1: is just since two thousand, thirty nine years or older,
Speaker 1: who has had.
Speaker 2: A sub to era. There are two pitchers.
Speaker 1: That qualify on that. Justin Ferlander is doing it currently.
Speaker 1: He will not qualify for this answer. Love to know
Speaker 1: what you guys think, and I will give you all
Speaker 1: of those. This day in Baseball, nineteen twenty nine, radio
Speaker 1: station Katie Ka An announcer Harold Arlind provided the first
Speaker 1: broadcast of a Major League game ever. First broadcast nineteen
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Do you ever get like where I see him?
Speaker 1: Like your brain just fries? You're like, oh, they were
Speaker 1: broadcasting games in nineteen twenty one, Like I can't even
Speaker 1: fathom the broad Okay, oh right.
Speaker 4: Well I bet I want to help you out here
Speaker 4: because you said nineteen twenty nine, twice twenty one.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I thought, all right. I want to
Speaker 3: be clear, Yeah I do.
Speaker 2: In nineteen twenty one, I apologize either way.
Speaker 1: In the nineteen twenties, the thought of anybody like sitting
Speaker 1: in there like.
Speaker 3: And there gets to the back like the.
Speaker 2: Thought of like the old timey radio with baseball. Can't
Speaker 2: like one hundred years, that's so cool.
Speaker 4: Katie Ka was always something that stood in my mind
Speaker 4: because it was the first radio station that went live period.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it was the station at the time, and
Speaker 4: baseball was on it and people were sitting in like
Speaker 4: no air conditioning, there was no minimal amenities.
Speaker 3: It was dusty. Oh man, wow.
Speaker 2: It's right around prohibition too, was probably no, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was even Yeah, we got bootlegging, we got
Speaker 4: a shy lah boof and Tom Hardy and his boys
Speaker 4: a running liquor across Virginia lines back in the day.
Speaker 1: Philly and Murphy over on across the Pond with the
Speaker 1: peaky blinders.
Speaker 2: Oh peaky freakin' we do know.
Speaker 1: It just didn't get into the twenties, like thinking of
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, like that they would all wear
Speaker 1: like suits. It would be something that you would be
Speaker 1: like really important, like we're we're on like a live
Speaker 1: broadcast for a big corporation talking fantasy and wearing T
Speaker 1: shirts and hoodies, and like they would go through a
Speaker 1: baseball game and they're wearing suits and cumber buns and
Speaker 1: they're just like.
Speaker 2: Well, welcome to the game. Welcome to the game.
Speaker 3: Let's hair shay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did have one person get one of the
Speaker 1: answers correct, and let's see dad.
Speaker 2: That was Wonkee Wonky came in. Roger Clemens is one
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: He had a one in seven era in two thousand
Speaker 1: and five at the age of forty two. But I
Speaker 1: don't see anybody. Some good guesses in here. You have
Speaker 1: sashel Page which was in there. No, this is since
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety. Like I'm sorry, nineteen hundred, nineteen hundred. I've
Speaker 1: been this last couple of days. I've been such a
Speaker 1: mushmouth of uh just jumbling words.
Speaker 2: But nineteen hundred.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I love you. But you said nineteen ninety
Speaker 4: the first time.
Speaker 1: I'll give people a little bit more here nineteen hundred,
Speaker 1: so it's I won't give you quite the answer. Yeah
Speaker 1: you got a little bit longer, but I mean the truth.
Speaker 1: You know, you're going a little bit deeper. So obviously
Speaker 1: I screwed that up.
Speaker 2: But we had all right, Dicky guesses Kershaw.
Speaker 1: So nineteen hundreds was the full one, and we'll come
Speaker 1: back to it.
Speaker 2: Let's go through some stat heroes.
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw, he went six, struck out five, giving up
Speaker 1: only I'm sorry, Justin Verlander kershawsk in my brain. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, dude, yesterday I called may Or Nate. I
Speaker 1: did this on our secret show. I jumbled every single
Speaker 1: word to another degree. Just I'm gonna slow it down,
Speaker 1: Justin Verlander. Six innings, five strikeouts. Jose Kintana we really
Speaker 1: liked yesterday as a play, went six, gave up one
Speaker 1: and run struck out seven. We had Nick Pollock on
Speaker 1: yesterday and he did tweet out that he was a
Speaker 1: little worried about where that change up was going and
Speaker 1: all over the place. Maybe something that the Cardinals can
Speaker 1: continuously work through, but that was someone I really liked.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Springs six innings, six strikeouts, and I believe he
Speaker 1: was one of the top k props on the market.
Speaker 1: I think it was four and a half and he
Speaker 1: got to six. Sonny Gray struck out five and five
Speaker 1: innings and Chris Bovic six with six strikeouts, tour and runs,
Speaker 1: four hits, go Ba. What was your favorite move of
Speaker 1: the trade deadline for pitchers?
Speaker 2: Did you love Kitana? Did you love Molly?
Speaker 1: I mean, there were a lot of really good moves
Speaker 1: as far as fantasy value, Kitana was one of those
Speaker 1: really sneaky ones in my mind, and I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a really good cheap play. Of all of them,
Speaker 1: he's one of them that's actually like out there and available,
Speaker 1: I think for some people in leagues. But what was
Speaker 1: your favorite impactful fantasy pitcher move from the deadline?
Speaker 4: You know, when Katana was moved from the Pirates to
Speaker 4: the Cardinals, I thought, eh, well that's underwhelming because I
Speaker 4: wasn't buying Kinana this year. I've had a lot of
Speaker 4: people DM me, hit me up, Hey Katana, shuld pick
Speaker 4: him up, sh.
Speaker 3: I roll this, And I just was like, what, No,
Speaker 3: this isn't real. I don't like what I I know.
Speaker 4: When he was a Pirate, I didn't believe it. But
Speaker 4: now he's a Cardinal. The Cardinals, they get a lot
Speaker 4: out of their pitching, especially they're starting pitching most of
Speaker 4: the time Jordan Hicks has had injuries. There's always exceptions,
Speaker 4: but gosh, that's not my favorite deal. But maybe it
Speaker 4: is going to be the most under the radar.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's a smooth move.
Speaker 4: Because when I was on the trade deadline show that
Speaker 4: you were on the other day with Joe Urco for
Speaker 4: Sports Ethos.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of talk about, boy, the Cardinals
Speaker 3: really are not doing much here.
Speaker 4: It seemed like it was, and that was right before
Speaker 4: the Jordan Montgomery trade, just to be clear, to give
Speaker 4: you a chronological view of what was happening. But I think,
Speaker 4: by uh, I think the best pitcher trade are the
Speaker 4: most enjoyable, one most introtriguing. One that I find interesting
Speaker 4: is probably Riise el Iglesias to Atlanta, because I did
Speaker 4: not see that one coming, because particularly to Atlanta, because
Speaker 4: Aja Mentor for the most part, has been really really
Speaker 4: good this year. I know Kelly Jansen has been up
Speaker 4: and down. He said the heart thing was there too.
Speaker 4: It's always going to be there, and they've got a
Speaker 4: lot of arms of that pen that they could rely on.
Speaker 4: But if Ryce Elle is not closing, will he be happy?
Speaker 4: Because you know, Mike Kurlin pointed this out to me
Speaker 4: after the deadline. Rizella had been verbal in the past
Speaker 4: about the fact that he didn't like not being the
Speaker 4: closer and if he's not in the headspace where it's
Speaker 4: good for him, that's gonna be a waste of time
Speaker 4: for the Braves.
Speaker 3: So I find that to be the most.
Speaker 4: Interesting, intriguing one that want I'll be watching the most.
Speaker 1: King Tana had ten swing and misses that in that
Speaker 1: one of the two double head kept getting screwed up.
Speaker 1: I was looking at the matchups forgot they had the
Speaker 1: double header yesterday in our infamous battle of home run calls.
Speaker 1: Bull crap we had yesterday. But King Tana had ten
Speaker 1: swing and misses, a beautiful forty three percent whiff rate
Speaker 1: on the curveball yesterday twenty.
Speaker 2: Four on the fastball.
Speaker 1: He had an uptick of almost a mild pro hour
Speaker 1: on the fastball and the sinker, and he registered only
Speaker 1: one of his pitches over a thirty csw but it
Speaker 1: was a curveball, which he threw thirty one percent of
Speaker 1: the time, so really hitting his points. Great defense offense
Speaker 1: behind him. King Tana is just a.
Speaker 2: Great second half guy. That's cheaper than any of the
Speaker 2: other big names like Malley and stuff. They're not out there.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give the answer before I get too far ahead,
Speaker 1: since I had screwed up. Oh and I see someone
Speaker 1: got it right here, Sables Goggles got it Cy Young,
Speaker 1: That is correct the two modern era. I did say
Speaker 1: that when I originally set up, but then I screwed
Speaker 1: up and said nineteen ninety. But the modern era of
Speaker 1: pitchers with an under two era that are thirty nine
Speaker 1: years or older.
Speaker 2: Cy Young had.
Speaker 1: A one nine to nine era in nineteen oh seven
Speaker 1: at forty and a one two six at nineteen oh
Speaker 1: eight at forty one years old. So Cy Young, Roger
Speaker 1: Clemens your answers to that trivia question. So good job
Speaker 1: to everybody was able to get that is very, very
Speaker 1: deep appreciable.
Speaker 3: Went to Michigan, by the way, just that's why I
Speaker 3: was doing this, So.
Speaker 2: Okay, I forgot you're a Michigan guy.
Speaker 1: On the Hitters, the big positive Hitter Front show you
Speaker 1: Tani we talked about he had two bombs going three
Speaker 1: for five. Ryan McMahon had a homer with five RBI,
Speaker 1: Seth Brown two for two of the homer. Tyler Naquin
Speaker 1: Now with the Mets, he had two homers two RBIs. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're getting a lot out of their new acquisitions and
Speaker 1: Vogolbach and Naquin I was very critical of like everything
Speaker 1: that they were willing to do and trying to do.
Speaker 1: And then it was kind of a whimper of Vogelbach
Speaker 1: and Taylor Naquin. But they're getting a lot out of
Speaker 1: these guys right now.
Speaker 3: You will be mistaken.
Speaker 4: My friend Tyler Naquin is gonna be that move that
Speaker 4: is not that big, but it's gonna be so clutch.
Speaker 4: I see him already as a series MVP. Seriously, he's
Speaker 4: gonna be the NLCS MVP. He'll come out and do
Speaker 4: what he does because he's so streaky and when he
Speaker 4: gets rolling, he can match the ball and he might
Speaker 4: usurp a job there flat out. I know eduard O
Speaker 4: Escobar is gonna have his role reduced a bit here.
Speaker 4: There's opportunity for Niquin to just be a starter. I
Speaker 4: actually held on to him in a twelve team league
Speaker 4: despite the trade, even though I was bummed when I
Speaker 4: initially saw the deal, I thought about it and I said,
Speaker 4: you know what, I like this offense. I like Naquin.
Speaker 4: I'm not bailing here, so I'm hanging in there, and
Speaker 4: I think you guys would be wise to do the
Speaker 4: same good stuff.
Speaker 1: On the couple other big positive Ramon Lariano didn't get
Speaker 1: traded at a homer four RBIs, Brandon Lao had a
Speaker 1: bomb with three RBIs Hoskins homer Salvi Homer, Maldonado Homer.
Speaker 2: Some stat zeros. Kyle Wright gave up.
Speaker 1: Four homers unfortunately six earned runs in his last start.
Speaker 1: Joe Musgrove big extension, not break out a big output
Speaker 1: four and two thirds, six earned runs, six strikeouts. Jason
Speaker 1: junk got lit up a spinel lit up five earned runs.
Speaker 1: Paul Blackburn, I know Mike Mayer wherever he is right now,
Speaker 1: is excited four and runs in five, and Poli sack
Speaker 1: as well. On the hitter front, Sea Suzuki in the
Speaker 1: doubleheader had four strikeouts, going one for seven. Trent Grisham,
Speaker 1: Matt Chapman, Hapscope Yelich, and Tim Anderson all with three strikeouts.
Speaker 1: Tim Anderson with an zero for five performance. No bueno, Hey, friends,
Speaker 1: how about some home run calls and an updated home
Speaker 1: run leader board. Bam right there, that is what I
Speaker 1: was talking about yesterday. We have got a race going.
Speaker 1: Would you look at that? Dee Blum and High Cobby
Speaker 1: with thirty seven bombs tied at the top Night King
Speaker 1: of the North thirty six. Mike Mayer is right on
Speaker 1: their tails. You've got a whole bunch of other guys
Speaker 1: in here that are chomping just biting at the ankles
Speaker 1: trying to get up on the board.
Speaker 2: But yesterday was the slow day.
Speaker 1: I think we only had one person on the front
Speaker 1: here board actually get a Homer Trey Turner. I was incorrect,
Speaker 1: but you know, what the hell did I even have yesterday?
Speaker 1: After all that stupid cardinal drama. Can't do doubleheader d
Speaker 1: So I went with Matt Olsen. He didn't hit anything,
Speaker 1: even though Goldie did hit one. But what does that
Speaker 1: matter because our dear friend Nick Pollock nailed it with
Speaker 1: Mooki Betts, so we got that on the board. So
Speaker 1: good luck today with your home run calls. Let's do
Speaker 1: a few little bets here go via and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw some out. Tell me if you like any of them.
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Speaker 1: If you guys, go and go betty pros dot com.
Speaker 1: Check out the mlbprop cheat sheet, which I think even
Speaker 1: if you don't use it, it is such a cool tool
Speaker 1: because it's going to identify their projectional differences that you
Speaker 1: can then go and study.
Speaker 2: I've been saying that for a long time.
Speaker 1: But they're top two bets of the day for total
Speaker 1: bases mookie bets. They've got at one and a half
Speaker 1: on DraftKings. It's a little bit, not a ton of juice.
Speaker 1: It's almost even money minus one fifteen. They got to
Speaker 1: projected over three mookie bets total bases. Who's our home
Speaker 1: run called yesterday? And I Anderson on strikeouts, but it's
Speaker 1: because it's low. It's only three and a half versus
Speaker 1: the Mets, and it's minus one ten on DraftKings.
Speaker 2: He's projected at five. My two that I dig. But
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I am ice cold. I could
Speaker 2: not be cold.
Speaker 1: I am Bobby Drake, I am the Iceman. Just go
Speaker 1: against me. You should for the last two weeks. I
Speaker 1: could not be colder. Horrible decision. Just bet against me,
Speaker 1: and maybe you're gonna play out. I don't know when
Speaker 1: it'll change. Maybe it's today, it was not yesterday. Outside
Speaker 1: of the goldie home run call Tyler Malley, I like
Speaker 1: on strikeouts he has at five and a half. They
Speaker 1: project him just a tiny bit over, but it's big
Speaker 1: plus money at one twenty with his new team with
Speaker 1: Minnesota going up against Toronto, which can get strikeout happy.
Speaker 2: And then I like the Schwarbs.
Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber total bases is also plus money today. These
Speaker 1: are both on the sugar House going up against Josiah Gray.
Speaker 1: He's leading off projected three total bases one and a half.
Speaker 1: Those are my two favorite Schwarber and Malley. You saw
Speaker 1: the other two from betting pros. What do you think,
Speaker 1: Michael or any of these you dig?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I like the Ian Anderson call because I think he's
Speaker 4: gonna be much better in the second half. We saw
Speaker 4: a nice performance recently. I think he had nine k's
Speaker 4: in that outing where he's like.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, look at that.
Speaker 4: He mixed more of his he changed out pitch, mixed
Speaker 4: a bit, and I was like, Okay, this is good
Speaker 4: because I've been hoping that Ian Anderson would stay true
Speaker 4: to himself from last year. He was now a dominant
Speaker 4: strikeout picture. Last year, I think it was a hair
Speaker 4: under ninek's per nine.
Speaker 3: But I like that prop. I'm all about that. Let's
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: Do that one, Donnie.
Speaker 1: I can promise you next week, the Princess Tiara will return.
Speaker 2: I don't have Joe's crown.
Speaker 1: My Princess Tiari is here, not in the mood to
Speaker 1: do it today, but I will bring it back next week.
Speaker 2: I promise Wonky as well.
Speaker 1: And at the end, I'm going to tell you we
Speaker 1: got the schedule up for next week of all of
Speaker 1: our great guests. We're going to get into more of
Speaker 1: a regular schedule for everybody. But the Princess Tiara will return, Donnie.
Speaker 1: So don't you worry, my friend. Thank God, Thank God.
Speaker 1: Right quick DFS stuff. Just letting you guys know some
Speaker 1: interesting numbers. Frama Valdez nine to nine on DK, Eric
Speaker 1: Lawer eight thousand, and Tyler Miley eight point seven. If
Speaker 1: you're looking for some pictures on Fandel Framber's ten to four,
Speaker 1: Eric Lawer's nine to seven, and some the only implied
Speaker 1: run totals over today. You got three teams Philly, Houston,
Speaker 1: and Milwaukee if you want to take advantage.
Speaker 2: Are you a big DFS guy? I never remember, goviare you?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: Actually, I'll be doing like daily picks for Baseball Props
Speaker 4: on FTN, so that's gonna be something I'll be doing
Speaker 4: on the RAG, which I haven't been posting publicly, but
Speaker 4: I do dabble a bit. But I was DFS heavy
Speaker 4: last year, learned a lot of harsh lessons. I even
Speaker 4: bade like a two hundred dollar subscription for some website.
Speaker 4: I was so in im like all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: pay this and I'm gonna be the DFS master. And
Speaker 4: there was one night I remember very much, in particular
Speaker 4: Alex Kiroloff and Alejandro Kirk. This was last year when
Speaker 4: they were still playing in Danied in the Blue Jays,
Speaker 4: and they each had double dong nights and I started
Speaker 4: both of them, and I was.
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, this is my big moment. I
Speaker 3: played in like a bigger tame alive. I know I
Speaker 3: was playing in a bigger GPP too.
Speaker 4: I could have won like a thirty thousand dollars prize
Speaker 4: and I still didn't even place.
Speaker 3: It was very sad, and that's how I remember my
Speaker 3: DF experience.
Speaker 4: Baseball is brutal DFS, big, big NFL DFS, gouy, but
Speaker 4: baseball it's a lot more challenging.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's a rough go home run calls
Speaker 1: for the night. Oh would you look at this mayor?
Speaker 1: Me and him are on the same one. I want
Speaker 1: to point out to the crowd that I put my
Speaker 1: home run call before him.
Speaker 2: I'm going with Kyle Schwarber today, who I talked about,
Speaker 2: got a couple.
Speaker 1: Of bombs as far as history goes more at bats
Speaker 1: at the leadoff spot. Gimme, gimme Kyle Schwarber, and Mike
Speaker 1: Maher is doing the same thing.
Speaker 2: Not that I was going to catch him.
Speaker 1: I though, did pick up two homers this week. The
Speaker 1: wonkiest of Penguins is going with Jordan Alvarez. Michael Gobi,
Speaker 1: Do you have a home run call today? We did
Speaker 1: have two of the four guests this week I think
Speaker 1: have had and hit home run calls. So would you
Speaker 1: like to make it an over five hundred for the
Speaker 1: guest spot this week?
Speaker 4: I absolutelyely would love to make a home run call here.
Speaker 3: And that's vlyball de bla Phil. This one is god.
Speaker 4: See there's my home run call. I'm hilarious. But how
Speaker 4: about I know, I don't know how I do it.
Speaker 4: It's incredible. I'm going with Patrick Wisdom today against the
Speaker 4: returning Edward Crabera coming off the il first start.
Speaker 3: Is he healthy? Will he be good?
Speaker 4: Max Meyer only lasted ten pitches, so we'll see. But
Speaker 4: I think at Wrigley, I don't know how much the
Speaker 4: wind is blown. I would like to know that, but
Speaker 4: that's my call. Patty Wisdom. He crushes the baseball and
Speaker 4: he's gonna go yambo today.
Speaker 2: I think I had some personal issues that he was
Speaker 2: gone as well.
Speaker 1: Michael Govie on Twitter Mjgovier Any last things to plug?
Speaker 1: Like I said, you're gonna be over at FTN coming
Speaker 1: here now, so probably just follow the Twitter. You can
Speaker 1: check out the Plazo podcast. Anything else to plug?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we got a free discord. It's fun too.
Speaker 4: You guys have home run calls. That's a great idea.
Speaker 4: I wish I had thought of that myself, but we
Speaker 4: still have a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: We do have a channel dedicated exclusively to the movie Heat,
Speaker 3: also a movie. It was just so stupid. We haven't
Speaker 3: own channel exclusively for people who love Russell Crow.
Speaker 4: So there's also baseball stuff mixed into the Discord's free
Speaker 4: check it out. It's all pinned at the top of
Speaker 4: the plaza podcast Twitter, two l's, two z's that's how
Speaker 4: you know how to find it. And Yes, FTN network,
Speaker 4: I'm going strong. There'll be some football stuff tonight too.
Speaker 4: Me and Blatt Seddler doing a live football thing tonight
Speaker 4: at eleven thirty pm. If you're interested in the football
Speaker 4: side of things, Beat the Gut tonight at eleven thirty.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: Fun stuff friends. I'm gonna go reset. My brain for
Speaker 1: the week unbelievable. I mean, like we started pretty strong
Speaker 1: and then my brain just shut.
Speaker 2: Down at the back half of the week.
Speaker 1: But we are gonna reset and we got a strong
Speaker 1: one coming up next week. We've got Wonky back. I
Speaker 1: think Kelly is gonna be on pretty much all Wednesdays.
Speaker 1: Bubba is gonna be my Tuesday guy. We got a
Speaker 1: couple new faces in there. Chris Clegg I think is
Speaker 1: our Friday guy. He'll be coming on. Schefter who I've
Speaker 1: actually never even chatted with, will be on Monday, and
Speaker 1: David Mendelssohn. Mindy is gonna be on with me on Thursday,
Speaker 1: not the regular schedule, but we're gonna get into a
Speaker 1: regular schedule next week with a bunch of great guests,
Speaker 1: so hopefully you guys are gonna come and hang out.
Speaker 2: Thank you for putting up with me all week.
Speaker 1: I think this is week one in the books without
Speaker 1: Joe Pi Zapia, but hopefully I did you right. Outside
Speaker 1: of my completely shutting down friends, have a fantastic weekend.
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week to do it all over again.
Speaker 2: It's leading off. That's Govie. I'm Welsh Peace friends.
Speaker 3: Bye bye,