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Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Did the Patriots have practice on one day?

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Speaker 1: I was just wondering, how did you guys do yesterday?

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Speaker 1: You got some drinking and good. We're gonna run sprints now.

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Speaker 1: For the first twenty practice, I was in a three

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Speaker 1: point contest in the guarden. Cedric Maxwell called me downtown

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Speaker 1: Freddy Brown that day, wife Cable, Oh, I've got everything.

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Speaker 1: I didn't cut the court, I added, best detective pairing.

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Speaker 1: You're definitely Olivia and State player. That's an SUV. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about the original another crime with an suv. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're giving it away by watching all the c Yes

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Speaker 1: show well the Chicagos or NBC. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: the Chicagos are an NBC. I corrected on that said

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Speaker 1: for us, but I waits at home after I've done,

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Speaker 1: I just put my hand out. My dog cleans my

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Speaker 1: fat bastard. You can't even wash your own hand immediately.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you're hearing it. You're hearing it, you

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Speaker 1: know when it's working. It was so hard to stop

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Speaker 1: for a defense. I've just talked to myself. No one's

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Speaker 1: even listening. This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It's Thursday here at Gilette Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Back to our regularly scheduled programming at our regularly scheduled

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Speaker 1: time regularly, but we're gonna be back off at next

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Speaker 1: week for the for the live show. Yeah, next week

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Speaker 1: is a big week. We got the mandatory mini camps.

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Speaker 1: So on Tuesday and Thursday we'll just day one of

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Speaker 1: the College World Series out. You guys are gonna do

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Speaker 1: the show. We'll have live shows from from practice high

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Speaker 1: above practice and video. So we'll announce the times as

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Speaker 1: soon as we find out when it is. But Tuesday

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Speaker 1: watching it. We'll be telling you what happened yesterday, where

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Speaker 1: happened today. Although Paul today had I think the quintessential

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Speaker 1: Mini Campus just OTAs that they have to go to.

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Speaker 1: a minire we go mini camp are is a training camp,

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Speaker 1: mini camp that they have to go. It's all but

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Speaker 1: it's all I know, But it's all a step in

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Speaker 1: the process. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, kind of the

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Speaker 1: we're really install I don't know how it is on

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Speaker 1: you miss OTAs, you fall behind. Yeah, because they don't

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Speaker 1: say they were the best team ever if they had one,

425
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Speaker 1: if they're if they're seven on the all time greatest

426
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Speaker 1: teams list, that's pretty impressive, right, that's pretty impressive. That

427
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 1: didn't win it, right that game? Yep, you guys are lucky.

428
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 1: Well you weren't involved in that. They didn't go to

429
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Speaker 1: you for that. I do not believe that's what I

430
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: was expecting to see. I'm not involved in I don't

431
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 1: remember this this particular clip, but that's the kind of

432
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: stuff that we were. Andy and I were involved in

433
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots. And I heard on the Twitter great Vine that, um,

434
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 1: you're going to be on a podcast with with Big Head.

435
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we just finished it. Yeah with FITZI and Bighead.

436
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: Any good? Uh? It was fine. Any disagreements. No, not really,

437
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 1: what are they What drum are they banging these days?

438
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: And what do you think we started talking about the

439
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: coaches Marcus s Yeah, who is going to So you're

440
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 1: all in agreement for the most part. Wow, well that's

441
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: not good, Paul. Wow, that's a great throw right there.

442
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: I know you're looking for offense, but they're just gotten

443
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: down and run at the plate and a good play

444
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: by the textbook and they almost get a double play

445
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: out of it. She threw it down to second the

446
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: girl was safe. Yeah, Um, what else are we talking about?

447
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: Oh no, we're in that void right now. I just

448
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: wish there was more. There have been more to kind

449
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: of take it on Tuesday, because I feel like last

450
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: week we got so much on Monday. We came into

451
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: Tuesday show, we had a lot to first kind of

452
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Speaker 1: glimpse of everybody Monday, I mean, not Tuesday. This week,

453
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: that practice was so low key it was hard to

454
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Speaker 1: really come out of it with anything. I had one

455
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: more thought on the conditioning aspect from Adrian Phillips press conference.

456
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: He said that he thought the conditioning was really essential

457
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: because when it comes down to those final moments in

458
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: the game, they wanted to be able to finish. And

459
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: it made me think and I was like, so, do

460
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Speaker 1: we think it was a lack of conditioning, Like were

461
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: they exhausted by the end of the game of playing

462
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 1: catch up every like over half the season, or was

463
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: it the lack of depth sometimes with so many people.

464
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Speaker 1: I think it's all of the above. I think it

465
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Speaker 1: was talent, lack of depth, same thing, and they were

466
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: just exhausted from Yeah, and I didn't we hear rumors

467
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: that there was some COVID going around that wasn't reported.

468
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 1: Maybe it got a little of the COVID. I mean,

469
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Speaker 1: it's amazing. I think it's a good thing. I just

470
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: lose a game. It's just unbelievable. I like that you

471
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Speaker 1: brought that up because that stuck out to me. And

472
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: the thing that I thought was, maybe you're doing too

473
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Speaker 1: much of this because the last three years you pooped

474
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Speaker 1: out at the end. And I hear more about teams

475
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 1: that are running less, that are making sure that they

476
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: monitor It's just something. Yeah. But see, I don't think

477
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Speaker 1: they're conditioning changed how they conditioned. I just think that

478
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Speaker 1: they weren't as good. That's what I mean. I think

479
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: the bottom line is you're right, yeah, but I think

480
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Speaker 1: one of the things about the timing of the runs,

481
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Speaker 1: like are they looking at that trying to find different ways?

482
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Speaker 1: Because I agree with with Mike if you listen around

483
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: the league, and we saw it firsthand when we were

484
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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia last year Nick Sirianni all the Eagles, they

485
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: talked about they practiced a little bit less in an

486
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: effort to keep them off their feet, off their feet.

487
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't a very good team, found a way to

488
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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Yea Eagles, Yeah, the Eagles. Um, I

489
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: remember that. People were questioning him right like is this

490
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: gonna work? Right? And I'm not telling you it worked

491
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: because they went like nine and eight, made the playoffs

492
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: and it's not like they had a great year, but

493
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: it's not a great team. First year coach, with the

494
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: first year quarterback in Jalen Hurts. They found a way

495
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Speaker 1: to win enough games and be better in the second

496
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Speaker 1: half of the season than they were in the first. So,

497
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: you know, just anecdotally, you can look and say, well,

498
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: maybe some of the ways they trained were more effective.

499
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: And Mike is right. You hear this around the league

500
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: a lot. We're doing some things a little bit differently.

501
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: We're doing less of this, that and the other thing.

502
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: We're relying more on the players to sort of arrive

503
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: in shape and whatnot. And Bill talks about that a lot,

504
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: like he's pretty I think he mentioned specifically about the rookies.

505
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: He felt pretty good about the overall condition of the

506
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: rookies when they got for their rookie minicamp. And I

507
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: just wonder if maybe the Patriots are looking for different ways,

508
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: because Mike is right, look at the way that they

509
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: finished the seasons, not necessarily falling apart in the second

510
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: half of games, but the second half of the season. Right,

511
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: this is now a couple of years in a row.

512
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: They haven't played their best football at the end. I mean,

513
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: arguably their worst football this year this year. But like

514
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, like okay, so right, what about all those

515
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: years that they did get better at the end, you know,

516
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: I know, And that's and that's why I well, it's

517
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: talent in an opponent, Yeah, you know, like I think

518
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: it's it's easy to sit there and say, well, they

519
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: ran out of gas, they didn't play well at the end. Well,

520
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: they also played Buffalo twice and in Indianapolis and in Miami,

521
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: and they played some more difficult opponents at the end too.

522
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: It was just the Patriots offense was like too slow.

523
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: They got off so slow, and by that point the

524
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: defense is forced to get kind of what we're talking

525
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: about earlier. They have to get all these stops and

526
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: they're burned out. They needed the games to unfold in

527
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: their favor, and when they did, it was great, and

528
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: when it didn't they had trouble changing it um. But

529
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: one more piece I wanted to bring up to was,

530
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Speaker 1: you know, Jude On saying last year that they squat

531
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: here more than anywhere else. So I don't know, I mean,

532
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: I always I want to believe that teams that that

533
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: work hard are going to be successful. I don't. You

534
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: don't want to say, oh, they're doing too much. But

535
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Speaker 1: it's just something about let me go back to that,

536
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: he said they squat more. Yeah, last year. It was

537
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: something he could in other places, and he came from

538
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: the Ravens, right. You know, you would think if there's

539
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: a team that's in the weight room doing the heavy stuff,

540
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: it's the Ravens, right right. It is interesting because you

541
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: hear I do hear a lot of newcomers come in

542
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: and talk specifically about the differences here. You know that

543
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: the work is a little bit different here. You remember

544
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: Patricia try to have them run in Detroit and they

545
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: were like, wow, what are you doing? You know? So hey,

546
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: I do think that they might do a little bit

547
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: differently and maybe even more than other places. I remember

548
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: back in the day, Johnny Parker was the strength and

549
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: conditioning coach and he swore by squats. He was like,

550
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 1: you gotta do squats, squats of the thing, you know.

551
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: And then he was Parcel's guy. And then you wonder if, like,

552
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: how much of a holdover is it from john the

553
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: Johnny Parker days? And then Mike wait wait White? Yeah,

554
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: yeah he was then the next guy. He's still with Dallas.

555
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: He's a Walpole guy. Oh really, Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah.

556
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: I think it was Westwood. Oh, Westwood, Yeah, okay, And

557
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: it was one of those ws look at you, hey,

558
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: high school, high School, River I'm not, don't hold me

559
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: to that one, but I think it was west Yeah,

560
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: he's a local guy though, Yeah, I think. Um, the

561
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: reason I knew that is Jackie McMullen. You know Jackie,

562
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: Jackie mack I do. She was from Westwood and she knew.

563
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: She used to call him Mikey, okay, Mikey like they were.

564
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: They were kind of friends. And then you know he

565
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: became a coach of the Patriots and couldn't talk to

566
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: him anymore, right, couldn't give her all those secrets to

567
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning. Yeah, he was a guy that scary looking.

568
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you didn't want to like he was

569
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: an intimidates had like a child. He doesn't talk, he growls. Yeah,

570
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: they certainly have a type. Yeah, kids, But Moses is

571
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a little bit outside the box. But

572
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I just I wonder if

573
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: are you clinging to what you used to do? Well?

574
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if I was the head coach, I would

575
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: insist that my head of conditioning look at all the

576
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 1: trends and especially what they're doing in college, because that's

577
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: where they do the R and D. You know, like

578
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: a lot of these schools research. You know, they look

579
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: at new innovation and techniques, and I'd insist that they,

580
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: you know, stay abreast of all the new stuff. There's

581
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: so many new things. Like when I was at another Dame,

582
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: they were like coming out with like different heart rate

583
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: monitors that they can wear during practice where they can

584
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: track certain things. And I was like, that is incredible. Yeah,

585
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of like you always hear like

586
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: people talk about like the old athletes and like, oh,

587
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, they wouldn't be as good today because they're

588
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: faster and well, they would have the same training that

589
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: these guys. They wouldn't just be doing curls. I did

590
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: my six sets of curls. I'm good to go, right,

591
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: They would do what the modern athletes do. Do you

592
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: think that maybe, you know the fact that I smoked

593
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: two packs a day, you know, hurt me athletically, I

594
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: can in nineteen fifty eight. Yeah, like you just didn't.

595
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: They didn't know, right, and they would have access to

596
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: all of the advantages that you have. Yeah, but I

597
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: mean to Tomorrow's point, even being at holy Cross just

598
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: as you know, I was part of that strength program

599
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: with the with the hockey team. But you know, you

600
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: just see how much it's changed what they do. I mean,

601
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: the use of like rubber bands now like everywhere rubber

602
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: bands and um, you know, I think some of the

603
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: stuff stays the same with squats, I mean in the

604
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: in the cleans and that that kind of it's not

605
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: like sports anywhere, doing all the squads and you know

606
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 1: you're getting a good pomp up when you're um. But

607
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: it's just it's remarkable even and I always look like

608
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: Mike Boyle be you, I mean, he's kind of like

609
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: infamous and especially in hockey but in sports in general.

610
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: And you know just how much it's changed, even for

611
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: the cutting edge guys, how much more knowledge they have

612
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: now of um, you know, single legs stuff versus double

613
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: Just how much that training has evolved over over the time.

614
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure that they're on the cutting edge of it,

615
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: but you know, I just I do wonder if you're

616
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Speaker 1: if you're still kind of doing things the way you

617
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: did it, or is this you want I mean, I

618
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: want to believe. I want to believe that that the

619
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: hard work pays off and that if you're running in

620
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: squatting in June, it will pay off down the line.

621
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, I also just want them to finish and

622
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: look and look like they're playing their their best and

623
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: strongest football at the end. So maybe they were a

624
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: little related, maybe not at all. Yeah, it might be

625
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: some of that, but like I said, over the last

626
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: twenty years, you know, they conditioned, they did pretty well,

627
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: pretty successful program, pretty well at the back half of

628
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: the So it's gotta be yea, mostly they just weren't

629
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: well the hill too, right, I mean the hill is

630
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: like a feature here that that that was like specifically

631
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: installed for that purpose. And when we were at Philadelphia,

632
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: they ain't no hills at their practice facility. That's a

633
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: straight you know kind of I think. So it's it's

634
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: it's certainly ingrained and um you know. But but again

635
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: another point of it is that when they were run

636
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: at the start of practice, they were on the flat

637
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: the field. I've never seen that since I've been here,

638
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: that they were running just doing sprints on the practice

639
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: fields and not down below up the hill where we

640
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: couldn't really see him. Yeah, remember before Serriani obviously at Philadelphia.

641
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly came into the league and he did all

642
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: this stuff at Oregon, and so he tried to bring

643
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: that into the NFL, like the sleep and and all

644
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: that stuff. I do remember that. Yeah, but he didn't

645
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: last He didn't last long, and I'm assuming his program

646
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: didn't either. At least ten hours of sleep every night. Yeah, Okay,

647
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: I think you're the bottom line is you're right, Like

648
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: if you have the players, you're going to succeed. Right.

649
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: It's not like we did too many squads. So it's

650
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: not like the team. Yeah, it's not like the team

651
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: with the best players just said, we're so good, we

652
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: don't need to we don't need to condition. You know,

653
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: just eat cheeseburgers every day, be like Parillo and just

654
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: be fat and not be able to run. But you're

655
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: so good you'll be okay. Like, no one would do that, right,

656
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, everybody conditions to some extent. Yeah, and then

657
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 1: it comes down to talent yep. And and friend's right.

658
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: When they when they had the better players, they generally

659
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: came out on top. Yep. You know football began in November,

660
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: and that's when they played their best football and had

661
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: a little bit to do with who they were. Yeah,

662
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, let's get back to that. Yeah, well, who

663
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: said we couldn't talk football? Yeah, conditioning. Mac Jones is

664
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: in condition right perfect. Yeah, although he's a better athlete

665
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: than you think too. That's what they telerated. That's what

666
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: they tell about. You could scoose what some guy tells you.

667
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: Some guy, some anonymous AFC scouts wisely didn't put his

668
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: name to that on the move, Yeah, throwing on the move.

669
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna bring back Texas as uh your wing tea.

670
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm curious how mac uh you know, he talked a

671
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: little bit last week. It is a has it availability

672
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: trying to get used to everything, the environment around here

673
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: and stuff. And I mean, I think Paul pointed out

674
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: right before that that Buffalo, that first Buffalo game. Um,

675
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: it's like, man, he looks cold right now. And I

676
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: just wonder if if if you're really able to get

677
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: used to it, Like I don't know, I like Brady

678
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: never really had it. I guess San Francisco, Michigan maybe

679
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, but he just always seemed comfortable in it.

680
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: It's like he did play in bad weather a little

681
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: bit being well, but I mean, Michigan's not a picnic

682
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: in November, you know. It's it's there's something you can

683
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: like get used to and get better like you can.

684
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: How many being in the Big ten games do you

685
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: see that there's not something coming down from the sky.

686
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: But here's the thing about Brady, It's not like I

687
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: don't care what the weather is. He did to a

688
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: point where if you go to his locker, he had

689
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: his gloves and cleats labeled like for what the weather

690
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: was like based on temperature. Yeah, he would wear different gloves,

691
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: different cleats, so he was very aware of what the

692
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: conditions were and he prepared for those conditions. But I

693
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: agree with Mike. I think it's more of a mentality. Yeah,

694
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: and I think I remember saying that that night and

695
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: it was only half tongue in cheek. He looked cold

696
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, but he did look cold, even like

697
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's stats for like when the temperature was like

698
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: under what was it thirty? Yeah, we're very interesting as well,

699
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: considering he went to school in the Midwest and played

700
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: in the cold as well. And then yeah, no, it

701
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: isn't the cold again, so it's like that's why. And

702
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: then through for four thousand yards in a playoff game,

703
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: you know, when it was like ten degrees up, he

704
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: just got another friend like, yeah, as friend says, I mean,

705
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: I just want them to punt. Yeah, no, I know,

706
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: I know, I just but it is I think it's

707
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: some kind of a thing. I think it's something you

708
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: have to get accustomed to. And with Mac, I go

709
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: back to when he spoke on the Tuesday, the first day,

710
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: the Monday the twenty third, the first Ota and Tamarrow.

711
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: You brought this up on the show about how we

712
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: talked about throwing in the off season in as many

713
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: different weather conditions as he could. That tells me that

714
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: it was on his mind, right, Yeah, right, That's why

715
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: it's as much about mentality as anything else it is.

716
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's a it is a a lot of

717
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: overcoming it mentally. Yeah, and there's there's different ways to

718
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: do it. Like Brady overcame it by recognizing it, acknowledging it,

719
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: and preparing for it. Other people just I'm just going

720
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: to ignore. Yeah, I'm just gonna like pretend it's not cold.

721
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean make an argument that passing wise, just from

722
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: a pure passing perspective, his best performance his first year

723
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: was in the snow, and you know he through if

724
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: it three hundred and fifty four yards and throw it

725
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: fifty some odd times, Like I don't know if he

726
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: was thinking about all the different equipment that he needed then.

727
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if he had gotten the different gloves

728
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: if it was thirty two as opposed to twenty eight

729
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: like he did in his career. Yeah, I did just

730
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: think it's it's kind of a mentality and Matt you know,

731
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: just because he didn't do great in bad weather last

732
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: year doesn't mean he never will. Yeah. And I also

733
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: think for a guy like Brady, where you're precise, you

734
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: know the routes, you know what you're looking at. If

735
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: it's a slippery game like a snowy game, I think

736
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: the offense actually has an advantage, yeah, because they know

737
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: where they're going. Sure, defense has to react, so if

738
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: you're on time where you throw, the guy's always going

739
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: to be open at first. I remember that game in

740
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: Chicago that year. Um, it was like bad snow and

741
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: they just went up twenty ten with with branch sounds right,

742
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: sideline sounds right right before the half. See that one.

743
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: You get a little freak da game too. That's exactly

744
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: the game I'm talking about. It was down there at

745
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: the end of the half like they looked like they

746
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: were just going to run it out like a little

747
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: like fifteen yard pass, there's no one there banged. Yeah,

748
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: it's like a seventy yard touchdown. Yeah. But they lit

749
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: it up that day offensively in the snow, you know,

750
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: probably partly for what you were talking about. For Yeah,

751
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: I act did pretty good. Um, you know, in the

752
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: in the rain light rain against the Bucks. I mean,

753
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: he had a pretty good, you know, completion wise game

754
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: against them. But it's something he's going to have to

755
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: deal with. I just I just wonder if can you

756
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: get too much in your own head about that, Like

757
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: is it you know, if you think it's an issue,

758
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: does it then become an is because you're thinking about it?

759
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: It's a you know, it's a mental thing as much

760
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: as it is physical. This makes me want to have

761
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: a college football playoffs in like Minnesota and genuine we'll

762
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: find out who the real football players are. And if

763
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: you think, if you look at all the national championships,

764
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: they've been predominantly in warm places or in a dome.

765
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: So it'd be interesting to see a school like Alabama

766
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: come up and play in the Midwest. Yeah. Well they

767
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: have those those destinations. It's not for the players, it's

768
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: for the fans. Yeah. They want people to come and

769
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: spend money and spend a few days that you do

770
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: the same thing in the Super Bowl. Yeah, it's oh yeah,

771
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: I mean I want to see who in Minnesota. I

772
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: will see who the better mine is too, but it's

773
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: in the door. But I like, I want to see

774
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 1: who the better team is. It's not who the team

775
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: that handles the You've always been like that, you want

776
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: to start. I don't like. I don't I'm not a

777
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: huge dome guy. I don't love domes. But I'd rather

778
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: have a game in a dome than a game in

779
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: a blizzard. And I know ninety nine percent of the

780
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: people listening probably disagree with me. They love the snow

781
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: and the mud. It's what you find out who's got hot. Yeah,

782
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: I just want to know who the better team. Yeah,

783
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: the asterisk. You know, like the Monday night game in

784
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: Buffalo last year, right, it like it was the Patriots,

785
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: Like the Patriots were better because you know, they scored

786
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: a couple more points in a day where you couldn't

787
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: throw the ball. Yeah. I would be more impressed with

788
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: that win. If they follow it up and beating them,

789
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: then less severe. Well yeah, but you know when you

790
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: follow it up and they run up and down the

791
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: field twice in the next two games, you know that

792
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: the only reason why you won that, That's what I'm saying,

793
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: was the condition, That's what I'm saying. And if that

794
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: was happening to be like the championship, like that would

795
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: suck to me. Yeah, yeah, you know what, you know

796
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, remember the game probably about seven

797
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: years ago. It was the Giants and the Packers and

798
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: Coughlin was the coach. Oh and oh my god, I

799
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: felt so bad. I thought that that was eleven. I

800
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: think it was eleven, the NFC Championship, right, Yeah, I

801
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: thought it. Can we get frost bite? I really it

802
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: might have been the first one. It might have been seven. Yeah,

803
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: it might have been over seven. Yeah, when he had

804
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: all the little splotches on his face, I thought he

805
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: was Yeah, I thought he was in trouble that because

806
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: you've you've played in cold, right, Like, It's not that

807
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't care what anyone says. No one likes it.

808
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: It sucks, especially your fingers. That's the first thing I

809
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: think I think about is I've never played in that

810
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: kind of fingers. That's different getting like, you know, smacked

811
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: on a helmet. My last every game was in a

812
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: in a snowstorm on Thanksgiving, but not you know, it

813
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: was probably like thirty degrees not you know, minus five, right, Yeah,

814
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. Usually when you get going too though,

815
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: you warm up, like at least hockey wise, like games

816
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: that were like, oh, it's gonna be really cold holderness

817
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: outdoor rink in New Hampshire. Oh it's coldest day of

818
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: they Once you get going, you know, you don't even

819
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: realize it's that. I was cold on that Thanksgiving because

820
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: we blew them out and we didn't get to play

821
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: in the second half. We were just sitting around watching

822
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: all the young kids play. All right, eight five five

823
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: past five hund It is the A Sticket hotline. Web

824
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: radio at pages dot com is the email address. Let's

825
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: hear what people are thinking. We'll go to Christian in LA.

826
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: What's up Christian? Hey, good thing you guys get to

827
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: hear from you guys and watching my subject matter going

828
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: on today. But yeah, let's get the football. Football football.

829
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: Sure have you guys actually seen um Tyclon Thornton run

830
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: any routes as far as his fluidity and uh stopping,

831
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: stopping go. And then also, I'm really interested in this

832
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: um this running back Pierre Strong. I think his name

833
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: is just stroke myself. Yea, I really think he could

834
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: be a really suitable replacement for James Wikes considering his

835
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: big strength as I'm reading, is catching the ball the

836
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: backfield when he's got four something for three speed. That's

837
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: his big strength. Pierre Strong's big strength is his speed.

838
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: Um for thought. More into what I'm reading on on

839
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: the board on these college website here and also on ESPN.

840
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: He's a hands guy. Yeah, his his colleague with hand

841
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: ok okay, yeah, I mean, well, Paul, go ahead, I'm good,

842
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm good. I read it on on the website practice field.

843
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: He hasn't practiced. He hasn't really done anything practice yet.

844
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: I think he's probably dealing with an injury. Seems like

845
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: it because he hasn't really been very involved. Yes on

846
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: Thornton uh tall skinny, I mean it doesn't it doesn't

847
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: look like little quick areas stuff. I mean, I'm sure

848
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: he can run a little slant across the middle and

849
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: catch it. But I think you know underneath little whip

850
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: routes that kind of stuff. Edelman. Though I haven't seen

851
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: the change of direction. I haven't seen lateral quickness. I

852
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: have seen straight line speed though. Yeah, I mean as

853
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: advertised and sense of humor. I told you I found

854
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: him delightful on Tuesday, just delightful, like the question of

855
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: the day. But do we have any idea what kind

856
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: of offense we're going to be running. I mean, are

857
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: we gonna try to stick somewhat to the system and

858
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: just have someone those doing the plays? Are we gonna

859
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: just you know this news. I'm really confused as to

860
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Is great new pieces we've seen

861
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: to have if we're not going to be running a

862
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: variation of our usual offense. I mean, I I think

863
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: you're it's still gonna be game plan what you know,

864
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: go try to get the right matchups. Um, but like

865
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: who knows. I think you're still going to see a

866
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: lot of combination routes where you're looking to get you know,

867
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: matchups and picks and you know that kind of stuff

868
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: that they've always relied on a lot of timing, you know,

869
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: a lot of quick quick throws. I don't think you're

870
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: going to see like an overhaul of the offense. I

871
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: think it's going to be the same system right with tweaks.

872
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for Mac Jones that that Mac Jones does better.

873
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: And it's like hardly what would you say the Patriots

874
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: offense hasn't done? Like what don't they do? Like they're

875
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: a multiple offense, they do a little of everything. I mean,

876
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: it's hard to say, like, if you're gonna say, how

877
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: is the offense going to change? I feel like it

878
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: would be dumbed down and simplified that that's the only

879
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: way to go. I mean we talked earlier, you know,

880
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: when they brought in Randy Moss and that having Moss

881
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: gave you that option that you know, like to be

882
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: successful down the field. There. To me, there isn't a

883
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: player that they've brought in over the last two years that, oh,

884
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: because of him, we can now do things that we

885
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: haven't been doing. You know, I think maybe you could

886
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: do them bet what you've been doing better. But like,

887
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: there's no one that's changing the offense on this No,

888
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: I would just say the only changes the full back

889
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: position that don't have one right now. Yeah, it seems

890
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: like the league is moving more towards a lot of

891
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: them pre snap movement and you know, uh sort of

892
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: speed speed based um routes and concept. We haven't really

893
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: done that a ton of Yeah, we do a lot

894
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: of pre snap movement. But I think what you're saying

895
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: is they have mobile quarterbacks. Is that what you're saying,

896
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: And that's not going to be there. We don't have that.

897
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm talking about like the casey where

898
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of sort of like you know, the

899
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: two guys move at the same time in the back,

900
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of speed based movement concepts. Yes, we

901
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: have done concept of the movement, but that's primarily been

902
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: for Tom to check the speedle doing but man or

903
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: his own Okay, talking about you know, so you're saying

904
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: that maybe you know, because they have Thornton and Pierre Strong,

905
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: who are you know, sub four three guys or four

906
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: three guys, we might see more speed based things. I

907
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I you know, I'm still the offense evolved

908
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: to to to the talent that we have instead of

909
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: like it's been before, where the talent has to sort

910
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: of fit into the offense. And that's been a problem

911
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: for us, especially with receivers, because we have had guys

912
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: with some with with actual physical talent, but it's been

913
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: that that thing, right, they haven't been able to fit

914
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: and get the offense. Can we still do you think

915
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 1: we can involve to a place where we're like looking

916
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: at out of talent and going let's just do in

917
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: every position with these guys, will I know? But okay,

918
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: but look look at the Patriots offense over the last

919
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: twenty years, even including Cam Newton because he was out

920
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: of his prime and he was less of a mobile

921
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 1: guy than he was. You know, there's nothing. You still

922
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: have Mac Jones as the quarterback. The offense runs through

923
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: the quarterback. You know, the skills of your quarterback dictate

924
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: your offense. And so we're still looking at the similar

925
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: offense that they've been running for the last twenty years. Now,

926
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: can Pierre Strong oh faster than James White? Maybe? I

927
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't expect Pierre Strong or Taekwon Thornton to

928
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: be major parts of what they're doing this year. Now,

929
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: what you want is them to show development, show some promise,

930
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: and then next year, when you know probably you're going

931
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: to be without like Agalore and maybe even Jacobe Myers,

932
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: you have Thornton to replace, you know those guys and

933
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: move up the depth chart and you're probably without James

934
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: White and you'll have Strong to replace. As Christian said,

935
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: you know that pass catching kind of a role and

936
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: you have that kind of speed. But I just don't

937
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: know how how do you identify pre snap movement as

938
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: not being speed based. It's just you know this, like, yeah,

939
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: a million of them, and you know Kendrick Bourne was

940
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: was effective in that role last year. You want to

941
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: go back to what Fred talked about. They injected as

942
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: fast and wide receiver as you've seen in the league

943
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: in the last twenty five years. And Randy must they

944
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: still did the same concepts. It was still Welker underneath,

945
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: but we're going to take shots downfield to an elite

946
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: speed guy. Like, yeah, I don't think you have to

947
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: overhaul the offense because you have some speedy guys. Now,

948
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: what you hope is those speedy guys give you big

949
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: playability that you didn't have like Randy Mosky. Do you

950
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: guys think I never heard you stay this last season?

951
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: Several times we had covered the base on it that

952
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: we're at a place now with maybe a new coordinator

953
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: where where we will start using some of the younger

954
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: guys sooner who's the new coordinator? Yeah, that that argument

955
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: to me is on defense. Like, I just don't think

956
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: that they have like I don't think they've made I

957
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: don't think Thornton and Strong are going to be in

958
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: position to be major contributors. Do you probably? Well? I

959
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: think again, I go back to this thing, I hope

960
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: not because I hope, you know, Damian Harris and Stevenson

961
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: and James White are you know, leading the way. But

962
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, if like if if pr strongestn't practicing already beginning. Yeah,

963
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: but I don't you know what I don't want it's

964
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: like more of that. It was, I hear you, Christian,

965
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: But it was about execution. It's not like you know,

966
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: what they you know, uh did last year was different

967
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: than what they tried to do twenty years ago. They

968
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: just weren't as good at it. Yeah, you know, it's

969
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: what I'm hoping for more than Thornton and strong Is.

970
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that uh, you know, the four offensive guys

971
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: that they brought in last year, take those two, you know,

972
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: that second year free agent jump and that Parker, Yeah,

973
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: and then and then Parker. You know, I'm hoping that

974
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: you get more out of those guys. Yeah. And I

975
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: think you're right about the guys that were here last

976
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: year that could be little bit better, right, And I

977
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: think Mac Jones is a big part of that. Ye,

978
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: you need Mac Jones to be better, of course, right,

979
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: it starts with him. I think that's a big part

980
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 1: of it too, Just the continuity listen to agal Or talk.

981
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 1: Just his degree of comfort knowing what to do, having

982
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: experience doing it, not having to translate anything when he

983
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: hears it. You know, I think that's definitely worth something.

984
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: But I do think Paul has a has a valid

985
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: point that we've talked all offseason about getting faster. How

986
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: many pieces on offense have you really added that are

987
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: faster that are going to play? Hard to say right

988
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty two. Maybe next year with Strong

989
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: and Thornton, but they may not be faster, but maybe

990
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: these guys can play. But I think no one where

991
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: to be right right. That's and that's a Mac thing too.

992
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: That's a you know, again, every every time I catch

993
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: one of the games from last year when they're running

994
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: on the NFL network, I've got him enjoy just getting

995
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: another look at some of them. But you know, just

996
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: some of the mental mistakes, the pre snap stuff, you know,

997
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: not getting not getting it off before the play clock,

998
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: knowing the situation. I think he'll be better at all

999
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: those things. And you know, when you're not going backwards,

1000
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: it gives you more op timunical forwards. Horrific call they

1001
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: just made on replay in that softball game. They called

1002
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: her out. He ran straight to the bag and the

1003
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: ball went right over her head. Like this was not

1004
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: interference in any way. I didn't think it was either,

1005
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: Like she didn't know that the ball was going to

1006
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: hit and she she wasn't out of the baseline. She

1007
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: was right on the baseline, ran right through the bag

1008
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: and the ball went over her head. Yeah. I don't

1009
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: know how. I mean, I can't hear what they're saying

1010
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: in commentary, but college softball show, yep, I'm here for

1011
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: I had a friend who was a pitcher for softball,

1012
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: and with that wind up and stuff, they actually measured

1013
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: his arm and because he started pitching when he's about

1014
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: six or seven, and it was about an into just bizarre. Wow,

1015
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: oh LinkedIn's arm. Huh. Actually they say that when it

1016
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: comes to uh wear and tear on the shoulder, the

1017
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: underhand pitch is more natural than over that that's why

1018
00:49:54,160 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: you could pitch every day. Yeah. Yeah, Anyway, My big

1019
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: thing is, you guys been talking about two thousand and

1020
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: seven and previous incarnations of the of the team, and

1021
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, with the evolution of the game, how

1022
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: do you think that two thousand and seven team would

1023
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: have done like last year or the year before with

1024
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: the other high powered offensive teams in there, and especially

1025
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: because I feel felt that our two thousand and seven

1026
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: defense was a little suspect. It was about slowly, it

1027
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: was all speed issues that that could be, that could be.

1028
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: But I think that offense you put against anybody modern day, yeah,

1029
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean they have every cool as long as the

1030
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: offensive lines playing well. Yeah. See, that's kind of what

1031
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: I want to get at, because I think I think,

1032
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people were worried about Bill

1033
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: being able to move forward and keep up with the

1034
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: pace of the game and the innovation and change, and

1035
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: I think Bill was already there. I think Bill realized

1036
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: that you if you can get your offense going, you

1037
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: can win a lot of games. Yeah. Who doesn't know that. Yeah,

1038
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that's still safe defense wins oh,

1039
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: in the in the NFL, I mean, I mean a

1040
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: lot of people might say that, but look at the league. Look,

1041
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: it's people who spout cliches like you got to run

1042
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: the ball to set up the pass. You know, they've

1043
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: they've changed the rules to favor the offense, and coaches

1044
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: recognize that you know, oh, I agree entirely. So, you know,

1045
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: I just again, every once in a while, you get

1046
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: a call or in that just kind of decries, you know,

1047
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: says bills outdated or something, and it's just I don't know.

1048
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: I think that even at seventy years old, he still

1049
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: has a really good draft for the game. You can

1050
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: see it, you know where he's trying to coach, where

1051
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: he takes stuff over and it makes the difference. And

1052
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people, I think have started to count

1053
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: him out just because they look at it. I can't draft,

1054
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: you can't do this, you can't do that. And I

1055
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: think that if you give them another year or two

1056
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: with this team, especially with the nucleus they got, they

1057
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: could actually have a pretty good offense and you know,

1058
00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: a complimentary defense with you Bill, Bill, Yeah, yeah, I'm

1059
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: going to set up an exercise that you guys can

1060
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: do later in the show. I want you to give

1061
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: me what you think the nucleus of the team is.

1062
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: You don't need to do it off the top of

1063
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: your head, give it some thought. Maybe after we eat,

1064
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: will come back from a break. I'd like you to

1065
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: come up with what you think the nucleus of the

1066
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: team is. Well, Matt, it starts with Mac. I said,

1067
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: you didn't have to do it now off to not

1068
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: allowed to talk about it yet. You can, but I

1069
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: don't think you'll be I don't think you'll be coming

1070
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: up with a ton of names. And I think it's

1071
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: a great you know, I think it sums it up

1072
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 1: that they haven't you had enough success with the young guys.

1073
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: They they've well, we'll hope, but this is right here

1074
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: that you gotta find. Yeah, they we need these guys

1075
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: to emerge. And now they're going to get a chance. Yeah,

1076
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get especially on defense, those guys

1077
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: will finally get a chance. But I mean, it's it's

1078
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that question sums a lot of

1079
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: it up. They don't have the young pieces you know

1080
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: you can count on. You got to find them this year.

1081
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: You wanted to find some last year. I think you

1082
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: did with Mac. That's a huge piece of it. I mean,

1083
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: arguably one of the biggest um bar Moore. But after that,

1084
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, and it's part of the reason why I

1085
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: was kind of bummed about Jase Jackson. It's just, you know,

1086
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: as much as I didn't think that he was while this,

1087
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, great shutdown corner that we have to have

1088
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: to have when you can't retain players that you develop,

1089
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: and it's just like I know that they have continuity,

1090
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: but I think that there's something to be said for,

1091
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: you know, drafting, developing, retaining, and that's something that guys

1092
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: come in and they see that they and they see

1093
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: how the process works. Not all right, we drafted that guy,

1094
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: he was here for four years, or he was here

1095
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: three years, then we traded him before his fourth year,

1096
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: or he was here four years, we got cold, we

1097
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: got rid of him. Or take it a step further.

1098
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: We drafted this guy, we developed him, we gave him

1099
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: a contract, then we traded him because we didn't like

1100
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: the contract after a while. Like to Mike's point, I

1101
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: think sometimes that I listen, I think that's a little

1102
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: overrated because I think players are generally worried about themselves.

1103
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: But I do think that sometimes the message that sends

1104
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: can be frustrating. But I mean, just off the top

1105
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: of your head, when you look at like the nucleus,

1106
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: how many guys that oh to run home just as

1107
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: they said, there's no offense. They're tagging this UCLA pitcher

1108
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: and it should be five nothing too. But literally, the

1109
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: nucleus is easy to say, Well, you know, I've been

1110
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: on this and I know I'm a broken record. They're

1111
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: not that young. The team itself is not that young.

1112
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't think that they've done a great job of

1113
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: sort of churning over the roster to like to Mike's point,

1114
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: and I think you make a really good one with

1115
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: jac Jackson, Like these are the kinds. This is what

1116
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful for, is that Bill is going to get

1117
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: back to what he did. And I'm hopeful for a

1118
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: guy like Thornton if he pans out replaces Agalore in

1119
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: Myers and you have a player that can be in

1120
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: the mix there and Pierre Strong can be That's what

1121
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: they used to do. They used to have a guy

1122
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: on the roster already to fill a big role the

1123
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: next year. And I'm sort of I'm hopeful that that's

1124
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: what they're getting too. But I think if you look

1125
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: at the start, the projected starter is off the top

1126
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: your head. On defense, would you say up front like

1127
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: Lawrence guy gotcha? Yeah, I would say that they are

1128
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: bar more and more Yeah, Okay, Dietrich Wise, Jude On,

1129
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: maybe Perkins Bentley ucha uh yeah, I don't know about

1130
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: the line, so I don't either. Maybe McMillan, let's say

1131
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: McMillan is Maybe it's McMillan and mac wilson. So I

1132
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: think just just like to prove my point just in that,

1133
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: and I don't want to do it for the whole

1134
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: entire roster, but just for that like front seven nucleus

1135
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 1: guys Barmore and if one of those like young guys

1136
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: pans out like a Perkins or an Ucha. Mac Wilson's

1137
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: not part of your nucleus, Jawan, Bentley's not part of

1138
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: your nucleus. Davin gotcha, Lawrence, Guy, they're not part of

1139
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: your nucleus. Dietrich Wise, that's not your nucleus. Well no, no,

1140
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: but I think that between Barmore, gotcha and Guy, that's

1141
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: your tackle rotation, right, you know what I'm talking about,

1142
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: So what's part of your future? Right? No, that's not

1143
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: that's Baroy and he's young. Yeah, yeah, but I think

1144
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: everything for this team right now is young players emerging,

1145
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: and that's you know, dovetails back into the conversation about

1146
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: high Tower and old guys in and we could revisit that,

1147
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: say in November when Ouch is suddenly like has nine sacks, right, Like, okay,

1148
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: there's a nucleus guy. Yeah, well Perkins is setting the

1149
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: edge on the other side of Matthew Judean And you say,

1150
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: this is a nucleus guys, second year, third round pick,

1151
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: this is the way it's supposed to be. Yeah, But

1152
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: then you're like, all right, another year uche and then

1153
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: then he'll then go to then go to the secondary.

1154
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: You pick out your nucleus guys. It's it's you know,

1155
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: it's at some point I think you gotta find and

1156
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: then that's what you could really like Touchstone with the

1157
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: early Dynasty teams were just Bruce Key, but Guinness, all

1158
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: these guys who have been around for so long you

1159
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: had such trust in them and are just feel of late.

1160
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: It's kind of a lot of mercenaries and a lot

1161
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: of kind of spare parts put together. They got to

1162
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: find that nucleus though. I think it's it's just I mean,

1163
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: that's that's that's everything right now. A Rashad's in Baltimore,

1164
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: Harashod Sorry, sorry, um, I was I was listening to

1165
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: They Are um and watching this softball game, but I

1166
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: had a thing about I hear people, you know, calling

1167
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: about the offense. I just feel like I don't I

1168
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: just feel like I don't hear enough of people calling

1169
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: about the defense. And yeah, of course, I mean you

1170
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,479
Speaker 1: I hear y'all talk about you know, the no punt.

1171
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: You know, they did a lot of punt And that's

1172
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: my that's the thing that I'll be griping on. You know.

1173
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: I know the offense is gonna take you know, jumps,

1174
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: they even might take little steps back, but I think

1175
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: the defense is the main thing that people need to

1176
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: be talking about because it's it's a big issue and

1177
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: not just for this year like the foot I mean

1178
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: maybe for the next years on because the people that

1179
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: we got in right now, I mean, are they gonna

1180
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: be above rope plays? Like? Are they gonna be starters? Right? Well,

1181
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: like I said this this year, I'm more concerned with

1182
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: the defense than I am. And I'm with you guys too.

1183
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: I just don't want to see Mac and the offense

1184
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: make some strides and wow, like has you know, really

1185
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: show some strides gut getting better, but the defense can't

1186
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: stop anybody and are given up like oh, you know,

1187
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: like it's maddening that that's my nightmare for this season.

1188
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: Of Well, like Parcel said, each side of the ball

1189
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: gives the other side hope, you know, And when you're

1190
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: in that situation where your defense doesn't give you hope, yeah,

1191
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: it's tough. Yeah it's tough, you know. And I'm not

1192
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: saying that's going to happen this year. What about one

1193
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: of your offense doesn't give this same thing. That's what

1194
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: I was thinking. I'm like some games the defense was

1195
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: really doing their job, but the offense was literally on

1196
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: the field for two seconds by the end of the game.

1197
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: The defense, I think that was the bigger part of

1198
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: the problem late last year, was that the defense would

1199
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: would be put out there constantly in the first half

1200
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: of those games, and you know, the turnovers were killing them,

1201
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: the three and outs were killing them. I agree with

1202
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: some arrow but I and that's true last year. But

1203
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: I think this year the offense will be better. Yeah,

1204
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: I do too. Going to improve over last year? I

1205
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: think so too. How much, you know, how much is

1206
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 1: enough to offset some of the questions on defense, that's

1207
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: the question. But I think you're looking at Russia with

1208
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: the same group, and if if I had the same

1209
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: group but better, I think nucleus that's what I think

1210
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: nucleus for the team is I mean, I gotta say Mac,

1211
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: but if I had to go a secondary person, Kyle

1212
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: Dugger is the only one that potentially is part of

1213
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: your nucleus in the secondary, I mean Jalen Mills, Terrence Mitchell,

1214
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, Devin mccordy, Peppers one year contract but for

1215
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: this year. No, But your nucleus is what you're expecting

1216
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: to be like for five years. Okay, Like we have

1217
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: these good young players that are going to develop together

1218
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: and be good. Like they don't have a lot of those. Yeah,

1219
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: Barmore is definitely one. Mac Jones is one. I don't

1220
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: think they have a ton of them. Yeah, well, I

1221
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: mean Stevenson could be Stevenson running backs, you don't Yeah right.

1222
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: We can always throw Kevin Harrison's to that because I

1223
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 1: think Kevin Harris is going to be Okay, Okay, he's

1224
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: my little uh, He's my dark horse that I have

1225
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: a crush on. I think you liked Romandrea last year too,

1226
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: though he could I did, he could be, I did

1227
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: could one two punch Yeah all right, thanks for Sean.

1228
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,000
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Speaker 1: someone please get deuced a lozenge or a nice cup

1469
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: of tea? Struggling, it's a little bit better, And yes,

1470
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 1: all allergies, I think. So it just settled in my

1471
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: throat and it's sure you don't have the COVID. Yeah,

1472
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: I tested him. I don't have it. But it's just annoying.

1473
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, the paulling yesterday in the air

1474
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: was like super duper thick. But but speaking of rings,

1475
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: I saw Paul's rings for the first time. He let me,

1476
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: very fancy you brought your rings to work. I had

1477
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: them with me um for an event, just in yeah,

1478
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: because sometimes you never know if that's going to be

1479
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: something that can't go over well. Right, So I had

1480
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: him with me one day last week and I showed

1481
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: him to have to put one on. That's pretty cool. Nice.

1482
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't want people to think that I generally just

1483
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: like that's how I just wear it. Yeah, maybe someday

1484
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 1: I'll get one of those. Maybe we were talking about

1485
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: the Celtics and Tony writes in Jalen Brown was the

1486
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: issue in the Miami series and in many games, a

1487
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: turnover machine who dribbles into traffic and if he isn't stripped,

1488
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: dribbles it off his knee or just loses the ballad shots.

1489
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: Brown thinks he's Tatum and he's not. He's a good

1490
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: player and every team needs them. But he thinks he's

1491
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: a great player. That's exactly what my uninformed impression of

1492
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: him was was like he's a superstar. It seems like

1493
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: he tries to take it. I don't think he's considered

1494
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: a superstar right because I didn't. I didn't see that,

1495
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 1: but I saw he's a better player than that. Some

1496
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: Asian just made it out to me. But too many

1497
01:15:56,040 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: turnovers in the playoffs, no question, that's accurate. Yeah. Alex

1498
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: writes in from Pentucket, your show yesterday about food and

1499
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: subs was great. This is the stuff we live for

1500
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: in the offseason. I have a bone to pick with fred.

1501
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: I was in shocked to hear him say that a

1502
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: wobber is the best fast food Burger ever made. A

1503
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 1: man who eats steak medium rare to rare thinks that

1504
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: Burger King makes the best anything is baffling. I think

1505
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 1: there needs to be a live taste test of Burger's

1506
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 1: for Fred to reevaluate that declaration. For sandwich franchises, I

1507
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: like Jersey Mike's, but I wish they would toast their bread.

1508
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,480
Speaker 1: A sandwich on a toasted roll is just great. McDonald's

1509
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: is by far the superior fast food, but when Deese

1510
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: has made some serious ground on them, Burger King is

1511
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: my version of Subway for Paul, only eating on survival

1512
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: awful food. In terms of the Patriots, do you believe

1513
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 1: that someone like Stevenson can leap frog Harris as a

1514
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: third down back? Or is he mostly or is he

1515
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: mostly a third down bat? I think he means other

1516
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 1: than a third down back? Is he talking about strong now,

1517
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: Stevenson Harris? I don't know. It's kind of think it's

1518
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 1: one on one A. I know I watched him come

1519
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: in and move the change on a lot of third downs.

1520
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: But do you believe he could do more? I think

1521
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I do, because I mean, when

1522
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: I talked to uh God, I forget who it was.

1523
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: I went it to some Oklahoma guy at the combine

1524
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 1: and just you know, asked him if he talked to

1525
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: Ramandre at all about the process one of the offensive line,

1526
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: and he said something like, oh, yeah, he's a third

1527
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: he's a third down back, but he does so much more.

1528
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: And so I don't know what he was talking about.

1529
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: But I do think Stevenson catches them. I think he is.

1530
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 1: I think he's more skilled in every area than Damien Harris. Yeah.

1531
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: I think he's faster, I think he's stronger, and I

1532
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: think he catches the ball better. Yeah. I think. Now

1533
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: that's no knock on Damian Harris. I think they both

1534
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 1: good backs. Yeah, I think that the skill set for

1535
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: Stevenson is better. Just my opinion. Harris was at the

1536
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: Red Sox game last night and the Harris ever not

1537
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: go to a game. He had him in the they

1538
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 1: had him in the booth, and he so wanted for

1539
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: them to say, Damian, why didn't you take a shot at,

1540
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: you know, calling us the play by play? He really

1541
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: wanted to do that, and he started doing it and

1542
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: then there was an out and they're like, Okay, well

1543
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: thanks for coming that's it, but you can tell he

1544
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 1: wants to get into broadcasting someday. I would like to

1545
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: see a race between Stevenson and Harris. I think that

1546
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: I might know. I think you're right on everything, but

1547
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: I might go Harris just in a straight away, long

1548
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: speed kind of thing. But I think it's close, and

1549
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: I think Stevenson's got more masks, so it might pack

1550
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: a little more punch, even though we might not have

1551
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: the top end gear. I think I think Stevenson hits

1552
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: the whole. I think he hit Johnny Muster. Uh, you

1553
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: might be right in a forty you know, Harris might be.

1554
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: I think overall, I like Stevenson. I think I like Stevenson.

1555
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: Chris with a TIA, I don't mean that as a

1556
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: shot at Harris. I like Harris too. Yeah. I think

1557
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: that's why I said. I don't think they have any

1558
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: problems in the backfield. They have good backs. Chris with

1559
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: a I A N writes in I went down a

1560
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: YouTube rabbit hole the other day, figured i'd look up.

1561
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: Came Rac Groan highlights put the Kid in Canton. The

1562
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: four minute highlight reel sold me, I know, I know

1563
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: the worst thing you can do, kid, look fast, though,

1564
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: in particular at the one fourteen mark on a goal

1565
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: line play wheels. Here's hoping this translates to an NFL

1566
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: field this fall. And by the way, Love Love a

1567
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: summer episode dedicated to Star Wars. I'm caught up on

1568
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 1: the new releases looking forward to it. Shut up, Paul,

1569
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with that. He'll just take

1570
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 1: the day off that day. Yeah, No, I'll be here.

1571
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: I just won't really contribute. I'll probably make fun of

1572
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: you guys. But that's that's good. That's a good contribution, though.

1573
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: But who talks about more nonsense than me? I'm I'm

1574
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: the king of the non sequitors. Third episode, All we

1575
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 1: won ellent excellent? Um, what was the first part of

1576
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,799
Speaker 1: that question? I would love to be surprised by Camera mcgron,

1577
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: but if he right now, my expectation at best is

1578
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: that he is a special teams player. I can't be

1579
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: surprised by him. I have no idea what he is.

1580
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: What what are the odds of me this year at

1581
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: some point calling him Pat mcgron one thousand percent? Yeah,

1582
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: I think yeah. And it's also not a bet that

1583
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: Mike and I have any ability to win when you

1584
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: can just say it. There's got to be cut off,

1585
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: and then he's got to forget about it, right, and

1586
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: then we'll remind him. Andre from New Jersey got a

1587
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: little beef with Fred and Paul and maybe Deuce. How

1588
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: on earth you guys have no pencil in wins this

1589
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: season with the Jets in the division. Regardless of what

1590
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: they did in the draft and free agency, they are

1591
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: still the Jets. I believe I penciled in the home

1592
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,560
Speaker 1: game against the Jets with the Bears and Lions in

1593
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: the schedule. Are you kidding me? Guys? And I penciled

1594
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: in the Lions game? You know better? There is four

1595
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: wins right there. There is no way the Patriots losing

1596
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 1: to those teams. Let's have some fun, Let's have some fun.

1597
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: Who is this? Uh? This is Andre from New Jersey. Andre.

1598
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: I bet you they will not go four oh in

1599
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: those those four games? Yeah? What can we bet? How

1600
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: can we try to make it parlay? How can we

1601
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 1: make it fun? What can we do something? Uh? Andre

1602
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: has to buy us lunch. If Paul's right and nothing happens,

1603
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: I mean, is there any way we could do play?

1604
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: That's probably not a good bet though for us to me,

1605
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: because we're obviously not rooting for them to lose to

1606
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: the Jet. He says also fellas, what do you think

1607
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 1: this team is going to regress from last season? Is

1608
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: it the loss of Josh j Junior Jackson or the

1609
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: unproven linebackers. I got them winning at least eleven to

1610
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: twelve games. Okay, I have another bet. Now that's optimistic.

1611
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's my high end, but I wouldn't feel

1612
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 1: confident of that's to me, that's really really optimistic. Twelve wins.

1613
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: The rest of the conference all got it was like

1614
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: the Celtics playoff run. Every other team got hurt. Uh.

1615
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 1: Also a couple of questions. Have you guys seen the

1616
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: new season of Stranger Things yet? Absolutely phenomenal, best one yet.

1617
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: I think I have to watch that. Yeah. How many

1618
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 1: seasons to that? Is there? Yeah? This is the fourth.

1619
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: I think I got through the third episode last night.

1620
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: I think it's good. I think the the middle two

1621
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: kind of felt vaguely similar to the first one. This

1622
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: this one feels very, very different, and I like that.

1623
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's just you know, different, haven't started similar,

1624
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: but but different. Everybody's kind of spread out, it's hill

1625
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 1: making fun of the ages at this point though, Oh yeah,

1626
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: you don't know who's what, like like like my sister Nancy,

1627
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: she's working a job, but like she's gonna go to college.

1628
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: It's all over the map, all over the map. Um,

1629
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Andrea says, I'm planning on getting

1630
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: the NFL Red Zone or NFL Game Pass for the

1631
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: first time. Which one is better and worth the money?

1632
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: You want to watch all of two very different things.

1633
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: I love the red zone, but if you're interested in

1634
01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: watching entire games, yeah, after the fact, then the game

1635
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: passes the thing. But I like the red zone. I

1636
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: used to sometimes I'm game passed. They have the full

1637
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: the full grid of all the games at once. That

1638
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 1: was kind of fun to put on sometimes. But for

1639
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: me personally, if I have a Patriots games and red zone,

1640
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: I'm good. I agree, as I often do. Rozsie from

1641
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: LA has a question. I'm not sure I know the answer,

1642
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: to be honest, He says, what are all the things

1643
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 1: Patriots coordinators like McDaniel's, Bill O'Brien, et cetera, were in

1644
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: charge of. I presume these included teaching and installing the offense,

1645
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,799
Speaker 1: game planning, game tactics, play calling, getting the correct personnel

1646
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: on the field, et cetera. How do you think Bill

1647
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: will divide these duties up between himself, Patricia and Judge,

1648
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: like like we're like, for example, I think at the

1649
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: end of McDaniel's tenure, he was in charge of the offense. Yeah.

1650
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: I think Belichick was in charge of the game plan. Yeah,

1651
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: and I think that will remain the case. Yeah. Yeah, Well,

1652
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean maybe Josh had some input, Oh absolutely, but absolutely,

1653
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 1: But I think Bill puts together the game plan on

1654
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: offense and defense. I just think it boils down to

1655
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: who's calling the place because otherwise it's a coordinator, Like

1656
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: you coordinate everybody, You bring everything in. You're the one

1657
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: who's making sure all the information from the position coaches

1658
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: is coming in. You've got the game plan, you put it.

1659
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: So that's just kind of organizational stuff. Yeah, and that's

1660
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: where the position coaches come in. Like remember the famous

1661
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: thing with Malcolm Butler in fourteen, right it was Brian Flores. Yeah, Malcolm, Malcolm,

1662
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 1: Malcolm go. Because that's part of it that like, this

1663
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: is what the defensive coaches do. Yeah, Okay, we're in

1664
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 1: this call. That means we need this personnel and everybody's

1665
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: got to know that. Yeah, right, That's that's why, Like,

1666
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: as much as the offensive coordinator stuff is is you know,

1667
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 1: definitely valid to discuss. I think it just comes down

1668
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: to who calls the place, who's in the heat of

1669
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: the moment having to make those snap decisions. Of course,

1670
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick chiming in on, you know, generally what

1671
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: he likes, but that that's what matters. I don't think

1672
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: the day to day, you know, organizational Friday meeting, who's

1673
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, gathering all the information. I don't think that

1674
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 1: they'll figure that stuff out. But I think the I

1675
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: think the writer, I think the point of the email

1676
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: is how much was consolidated in one person in the

1677
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: past and how much now has to be divvied up

1678
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: among more people. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I honestly

1679
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: don't know the answer. But I mean, Josh, you know,

1680
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: was the quarterbacks coach and the offensive coordinator, so I mean,

1681
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 1: you know it's he was doing both. Um. Yeah, I

1682
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I think they've got enough to figure it out.

1683
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 1: I think he's just gonna boil down to what I

1684
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: think to Fred's point, though, I don't think there's gonna

1685
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: be just one guy doing what Josh did now, like

1686
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 1: I think, on paper, it looks like that will be

1687
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: Joe Judge. He's gonna be working with quarterbacks and was

1688
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: definitely involved with Mac Jones and the OTAs. But I

1689
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: think part of that will be on Patricia, and part

1690
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: of that will be on Nick Kayley, and I think

1691
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 1: part of that will be on Bill. I think there'll

1692
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: be more you know of your word collaborative than than

1693
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 1: was the case with McDaniels. But Bill, I think will

1694
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: be heavily involved as he always has been with game plans,

1695
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: and other guys will be there to weigh in. Neil

1696
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: and new Brunswick picking up on the High Tower conversation

1697
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: from yesterday. I'd be neutral on signing or not signing him,

1698
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: but I do selfishly hope he doesn't play for another team.

1699
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 1: In his prime, he was an amazing player, never flashy,

1700
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: but just consistent. He plays in Super Bowl forty nine

1701
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 1: stopping Lynch at the goal line and the strip sack

1702
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 1: of Matt Ryan a Super Bowl fifty one. Both were

1703
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: huge plays that were a big help to bringing two

1704
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: rings to the Patriots. I'm curious where you'd think he

1705
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: ranks at Patriots history, for example, compared to this year's

1706
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 1: Patriots Hall of Fame nominees, I don't think he takes

1707
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: a backseat to any of those guys. High Tower. I mean,

1708
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: I think of him similar to Edelman in that there

1709
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of production, and a lot of the

1710
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 1: biggest production came in the playoffs, so you certainly have

1711
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: to consider it. But okay, Vrabel versus High Tower to thee,

1712
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't really think it's all that close now, Vrabel,

1713
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: I mean High Tower versus Wilfork. Wilfork, Okay, Like I

1714
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: think High Tower was a really good player who wasn't

1715
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 1: always available, and as Mike said, he was great in

1716
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: big spots, which is huge, But I don't think that

1717
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: as on a game to game basis, he was at

1718
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 1: the level of those other guys. And like when you

1719
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: said Vrabel, I think about Vrabel and oh five, like

1720
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: switching positions and filling holes in you know, you saw

1721
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen when they didn't have Dante High Tower.

1722
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the team did fall off a cliff. But

1723
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: you know, I think availability, the length of your career,

1724
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 1: those are things to consider when you're stacking them up

1725
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: to those guys like will High Tower get into the

1726
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 1: Patriots Hall of Fame? Yes, oh yeah, yes, yeah, for sure, Yeah,

1727
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: yeah he does. He belongs in the team Hall of Fame. Again,

1728
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 1: I'm not going to start rattling off names of guys

1729
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: that are already in, right, but who do you who

1730
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: do you take from the from the second a second

1731
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 1: three the site, like you know High Tower, Edelman? No,

1732
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 1: he's not in order, Well, he's more the first. Well,

1733
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: he's kind of in the middle. I don't know who

1734
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,879
Speaker 1: else from from the second three Super Bowls? I mean Gilmore,

1735
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Gronk for sure, I mean Edelman, Gronk, High Tower, Brady

1736
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: of course. After that, though, I think it sports to

1737
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: get a little Yeah, he's gonna go in. This is

1738
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: the problem, right, all right, this is the problem. Yeah,

1739
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: we've got he's got it. Not that he wasn't like

1740
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 1: and people say, oh you don't like record it. No,

1741
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 1: he was a great Patriot. Now I would put a

1742
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: high Tower before mccordy, Yeah I would. I would too, Yes,

1743
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 1: I would too. But it's I mean, it's an interesting

1744
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: comparison because I feel like mccordy consistent longevity over the

1745
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: course of regular season games. Rock Rocks solid, but when

1746
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: you look at high towers peaks, they're a little bit

1747
01:28:56,160 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 1: more memorable later, and he's going in. He's definitely going in.

1748
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: I can guarantee it's in arguable he's going in. There's

1749
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: no sense even talking about like it's twenty forty five

1750
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 1: and who's Brandon King waves to the fans that the plot.

1751
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: I think all of those guys are, no doubt Hall

1752
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 1: of famers, mccordy, High Tower, Welker, Edelman, Slater. Where you're

1753
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: going to start to get conversations is you know, when

1754
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: you go to the next tier down a little bit,

1755
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, like a Patrick Chung or uh, Dietrich Wise, Uh,

1756
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, guys like that, like there's there's more of

1757
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 1: a conversation to be had there. James White, that's a

1758
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: good one. You know, talk about big plays in big games, right,

1759
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 1: But you know, I would make an argument that James

1760
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 1: White was probably better than Kevin Falk. But I don't know,

1761
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 1: like I don't know that Kevin Falk should be in there, right, Interesting, Yeah, tough, Yeah,

1762
01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: we don't have an easy job, Mike. I don't know

1763
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 1: if you can talk, you know, every responsibility you couldn't.

1764
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: So here's but you know, here's another way to look

1765
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: at it, and it's tough, but takeaway playoffs and just

1766
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: look at their regular season careers. Nobody would Yeah, would

1767
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: Kevin Falk be in? Would any of these guys? A

1768
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 1: lot of them? Right, we're so you know, well, I

1769
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: think Kevin Falk would have a stronger case as just

1770
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 1: regular season than some of the other guys. But like

1771
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman had like some really good seasons in the

1772
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 1: regular season. Now he's bolstered greatly by the volume of

1773
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: catches in the postseason. Right, But I mean Edelman was good.

1774
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: But team Team Hall of Fame, Team Hall of Fame,

1775
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 1: it's not even a question. I mean, what do what

1776
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 1: do we do about? Are my apps? Brian in New Hampshire.

1777
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: I know it's OTAs but an offseason question. Here we

1778
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: talk a lot about the best Super Bowl teams, but

1779
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: I'd be curious to hear you will all rank the

1780
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 1: best Patriots team that made the Super Bowl in lost.

1781
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure O seven is number one one, but what

1782
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 1: about the others. I was not around or old enough

1783
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 1: to see the eighty five or ninety six teams firsthand,

1784
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 1: so I'm curious about those two In particular, I would

1785
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 1: put ninety six up there behind oh seven. Maybe you

1786
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: could say the what's the year that they lost the Eagles? Seventeen?

1787
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 1: I think seventeen ninety six really really good teams that

1788
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: didn't win. I mean I'd go ninety six probably over

1789
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 1: seventy two. But I'm bias. You don't like eleven eleven

1790
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: was terrible. I don't think seven team was was much better.

1791
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 1: Probably offensively they were better, but defensively they were both

1792
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 1: just dreadful seasons. Defensively, Um, how do you stack up

1793
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: eighty five? Eighty five would be the worst? Yeah, I

1794
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 1: mean they did get it was a magical playoff run,

1795
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 1: but they just didn't have the same ability that the

1796
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: other teams. Yeah, I mean, I'm by no means to

1797
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: my an expert. I just feel like the best players

1798
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 1: in the eighty five team were sort of passed their prime.

1799
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: You know, the hand is the Nelson's, the Stanley Morgan's,

1800
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: the Grogan's. Yeah, like what about they were they were

1801
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: kind of you know what I mean that they just

1802
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: came to quarterback? Was Tony East right? That game over?

1803
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 1: What about um Patriots teams that lost in the AFC

1804
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 1: Championship so like the ranking those teams, like oh six,

1805
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 1: oh six was a good team. They you know, thirteen

1806
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: fifteen with the one that wants to uh was it twelve?

1807
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 1: They lost a ball to Atimo They got smoked. Yeah, yeah,

1808
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: I didn't think the two teams that lost in Denver

1809
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: were all that good. I think fifteen was better than thirteen.

1810
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 1: Thirteen was fifteen was definitely better than thirteen. The thirteen

1811
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 1: game wasn't really competitive. Yeah, in Denver, they they had

1812
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 1: nothing there by the end of the season. Um that

1813
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: the O six team, I mean, that's they kind of

1814
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: squeezed everything they could out of that team. I think

1815
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: they had won that game, they would have Super Bowl.

1816
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: The thirteen game in Denver was one of those Patriot

1817
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 1: games where they got absolutely man had for sixteen minutes.

1818
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 1: Still Pots lost by ten. Yeah, but it was never

1819
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 1: like you never really thought they had a chance to

1820
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 1: win that game. But the Patriots just don't get blown out.

1821
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 1: That's I used to say that writing on the blog.

1822
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, even when they get absolutely dominated, they don't

1823
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: get blown out. Yeah, and they and I think that

1824
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: was largely true for a long time until now. That's

1825
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 1: what the next point was going to be Anthony, Connecticut.

1826
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 1: First of all, I am not here for all this

1827
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 1: subway slander. I think I think you guys are wrong.

1828
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 1: It may not be the best sandwich out there, but

1829
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: it gets the job done. It gets the job done.

1830
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 1: As for the Patriots, how realistic is it that James

1831
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 1: White will be an actual contributor to this season? Love

1832
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 1: the player and what he did, but can't ignore the

1833
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,640
Speaker 1: current situation. Plenty of younger depth on the team and

1834
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 1: he's coming off an injury. Is there a chance he

1835
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: calls it a career this summer? Lastly, there is a

1836
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 1: chance of that. But I just would fight back just

1837
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 1: slightly on what is the younger talent that we know of?

1838
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 1: Like are we just saying that this is what Peter

1839
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: Strong is like sight unseen, Like he's younger talent on

1840
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: the roster? Right? Yeah? Like, don't these guys have to

1841
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 1: do something before you know they established themselves? As I

1842
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: think that there's larger point. I don't want to get

1843
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 1: bogged down in semantics like I can do sometimes. James White,

1844
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 1: I think, is a candidate to say, you know what,

1845
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm not bouncing back the way I thought It's not working.

1846
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: I think there's a I don't know what percentage you

1847
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: want to put on that fifty fifty. Yeah, yeah, maybe

1848
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: maybe pup and he they ease him back in and

1849
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: then mid season he kind of comes back and maybe

1850
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 1: gives them a boost that. I do wonder if he

1851
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 1: might with him. I feel like if he needs, if

1852
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: he needs that time Mike. I wonder if he just says,

1853
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: you know what, it's just not worth it, forget about it. Yeah,

1854
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 1: but I'm not willing to sit here and say, you know,

1855
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: with all the talent Ty Montgomery and now, he still

1856
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 1: don't hair strong like, I don't think they have anybody

1857
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: anywhere near the caliber of James White. If he's right. Yeah,

1858
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 1: Now I think the email has got it. I think

1859
01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: there's a chance in the summer we might be hearing

1860
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 1: from James White. Yeah, I agree, But I also I

1861
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 1: think too some of them Mack's best passes last year

1862
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: where to James White. Now, the two in particular, remember

1863
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 1: early you know up the sidelines, nice nice touch they had,

1864
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 1: some they started to have. He would have helped a

1865
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: little bit down the stretch. So we'll see. But yeah,

1866
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not cementing him into anything. Just yet. Lastly,

1867
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 1: has there been any talk about getting some PU apparel

1868
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 1: or coffee mugs? That's easy. Coffee mugs. We should get

1869
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 1: coffee mugs so we can have them in front of us.

1870
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: I could drink my diapepsia. We can get Doc Mcloude

1871
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 1: to do a little illustration that we could put on

1872
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: a T shirt. So we should get some T shirts done.

1873
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: Huh pu uh. Jack says, what about the tight ends?

1874
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 1: He says, isn't it time for Devin Asiassi to be

1875
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 1: a regular contributor. It's a good question. I mean, he's

1876
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: they took him for a reason better at this point,

1877
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: it seems like they just took him because they needed

1878
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 1: a tight end and better chance he's a regular contributor

1879
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 1: or not on the roster, not on the roster, Fred,

1880
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:03,799
Speaker 1: what's that better chance for this season? Devin a regular

1881
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 1: contributor on offense, were not on the roster, not on

1882
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 1: the roster? Yeah, I agree, I mean, I think I

1883
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: agree with you both third tight end, third tight end.

1884
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 1: And it's hard to see him. I mean, I remember

1885
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 1: the last spring he had I thought a couple I

1886
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 1: thought there was some signs. Yes, last last summer, remember

1887
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 1: you got off to the slow start because he was

1888
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: COVID at the start of training camp. Remember he missed

1889
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 1: the first like week or so. But then once he

1890
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 1: started practicing, I was like, he was showing up a

1891
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, he made he was looking I thought

1892
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: he looked quicker. Um, and then all of a sudden

1893
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: regular season started and he was never really to be

1894
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 1: heard from. He's gonna need a hunter Henry or Jonas

1895
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: Smith injury, I think, to get a shot, and I

1896
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 1: think that's what it would take for him to be

1897
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 1: a contributor. Yeah, uh, let's see. Jordan Appalachian, New York,

1898
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: thanks for picking my question to read. Fred. A while back,

1899
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,679
Speaker 1: you were all discussing the popularity of lacrosse in Upper

1900
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 1: State New York, and the real answer is why it's

1901
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 1: so popular is because the Iroquois invented the sport and

1902
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 1: obviously played it in upstate New York. I'm not sure

1903
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 1: as to why it has remained popular well Canada really,

1904
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, people loved it. They loved it back in

1905
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 1: the seventeen hundreds when they started playing up state years

1906
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: close to Canada, so it makes sense it's just stuck around.

1907
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 1: Um then why not made anyway, I've got two questions. Uh,

1908
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 1: if I was to make a day trip to Foxborough

1909
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: for training camp with a pregnant wife in a four

1910
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 1: year old, would it be fun for them? No? And

1911
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be fun for you, your pregnant wife love

1912
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I don't have a lot of experience being pregnant,

1913
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 1: but like sitting out in the sun, you know, I

1914
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: mean I think I'm four year old. If they're into it,

1915
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 1: would have a great time. Yeah, I would encourage anybody

1916
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 1: generally to go to train outstanding. Four might be a

1917
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: little bit too young. I had kids, you know, brought

1918
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 1: them a little bit older than that. They had great time,

1919
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: and they've got all kinds of activities. Kids don't generally

1920
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: want to sit for two hours and watch yeah, football practice, Right,

1921
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 1: it's an unbelievable take is you know you would make

1922
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: fun of me for being jaded all the time? Fred,

1923
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 1: You've never heard me make fun of that. Like you

1924
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 1: are literally feed away from the best players in the

1925
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: world and you get a chance to watch it for free,

1926
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: Like it's a great summertime. Take. Yes, it is. But

1927
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 1: like Paul said, four years old, four years old, he

1928
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 1: is young. He'll he'll be all excited about the stuff

1929
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 1: you did before practice. But you get like an eight

1930
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: year old and then you can get up by the

1931
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 1: ropes and maybe get some autographs afterwards, some interaction that

1932
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 1: you know, generally the players congre you know, they gravitate

1933
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 1: toward the kids. Yeah, that's where I think you're talking

1934
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 1: like priceless kind of experience. Yeah, pregnant wife though, pregnant

1935
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 1: wife four year old. Yeah, I don't think that's where

1936
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,560
Speaker 1: you want to be. Maybe a few months pregnant, but

1937
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 1: like if you're getting later on, oh imagine trying to

1938
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 1: drag my pregnant wife there, she would not be out.

1939
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: I remember I got tickets to Game one the two

1940
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 1: thousand and four World Series, you know, against the Cardinals,

1941
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: when when the Red Sox finally won and I and

1942
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of tickets I got. I ended

1943
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: up getting five tickets, and the idea was for my

1944
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 1: wife to come. And she was pregnant at the time.

1945
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 1: She's like, no chance am I going into that crowd, right,

1946
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: And she wasn't you know, it wasn't imminent. It was October. Yeah,

1947
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 1: she was like probably five months pregnant, five and a

1948
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 1: half months pregnant. Maybe at the time she's like, no chance, Yeah,

1949
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,759
Speaker 1: am I doing that? And she didn't. Yeh uh. Second

1950
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: question is if the Patriots had three surprise transactions during

1951
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,639
Speaker 1: training camp, what would they be As far as one,

1952
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:46,679
Speaker 1: who would be the surprise signing? Surprise signing? I don't

1953
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 1: know if that's a surprise, but I don't have a

1954
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 1: sign We talked about line if Damien Harris, yeah, is

1955
01:39:56,400 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 1: there another surprise? Well, then the surprise trade. Those those

1956
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,719
Speaker 1: guys I think would be surprised. The last year would

1957
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: be we always say this, who would be the surprise cut? Yeah,

1958
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 1: I would say the same all those like I don't

1959
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 1: But are they surprised if you already know about I

1960
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 1: know that's the problem, right, Well, that's why, like it's

1961
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 1: easy to say Nikkio, Harry or Trey Flowers. I don't

1962
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: really think that anything would be surprising with those guys.

1963
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 1: There's not a lot. There's not a lot of guys embedded.

1964
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: Like I was gonna say, Malcolm Butler, you know, tried

1965
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 1: to come back, maybe just doesn't have it anymore. That's

1966
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 1: a good one, dude, somebody who's a good I was

1967
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 1: just gonna pencil him back in and yeah, he just did.

1968
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: He didn't have it anymore like somebody like that. Yeah,

1969
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 1: I'll put Ty Montgomery on the surprise cut. That's a

1970
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 1: good one too. Mac Jones, I'd be surprised. I know.

1971
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 1: That would take me a back. Yeah, I would be surprised.

1972
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean that would take me aback. Uh. Eldred's in

1973
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 1: North Carolina. What's up, Eldred? Good? Yeah, I've been listening.

1974
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 1: I just got a couple of questions. I'm concerned on

1975
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 1: both side of the ball too, both sides, you know.

1976
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 1: But my question is to Fred yes and Paul, because

1977
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 1: I hear y'all the most. You're not worried about the offense.

1978
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I didn't say I wasn't worried about

1979
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: the offense. I said, I'm not worried about the offensive line.

1980
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 1: You know, we're about offense the first met Again, I'm

1981
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 1: not opfully worried with the offensive line. I think they

1982
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: have I think they have questions that receiver in quarterback.

1983
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm less worried about the offense. I mean there's still

1984
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how Matt Jones is going to be

1985
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 1: this year, you know. And that's that's the that's the

1986
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 1: lynch pin. But I'm less worried about the offense than

1987
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:39,599
Speaker 1: I am the defense too. I think you can make

1988
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 1: that argument. I think I'll worry about the offense at

1989
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 1: least on the defense. You got them coordinated offense, do

1990
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 1: you good? And you got who's the defensive coordinator on

1991
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 1: this team? I don't. I don't know if you have

1992
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: that answer on defense either. Well, if that at least

1993
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 1: they've been working lonely with that side, you know, you know, yeah,

1994
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 1: they a little bit more, that's true. Yeah, Yeah, that's

1995
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 1: why I'm worrying. Matt and and who gonna you know,

1996
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: had the receivers come out on the back or you know,

1997
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,719
Speaker 1: if you're getting the buying who who know what played

1998
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 1: to call? What? Dude? You know that's what's worried me.

1999
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: That's me. Yeah, I worry about both. But I think

2000
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 1: you can make an argument for Fred and Mike that

2001
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 1: I'm a little little little less worried about the offense

2002
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 1: than the defense. I think this is a great year

2003
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: to show what Gerd Mayo, Steve Belichick really have. I mean,

2004
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,839
Speaker 1: these are you know, new players, These aren't the carryover

2005
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 1: guys that they know. Yeah, credit, and I think they're

2006
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 1: so short on talent, right right, Well, there's only so

2007
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 1: much you can do. I mean, I connected into you know,

2008
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 1: the drafts the last couple of years too. Can they

2009
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: develop these young players? Can they bring in? I mean,

2010
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 1: they've looked pretty good early in the season when you

2011
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 1: had High Tower and Van Noyan Collins and the guys

2012
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: who have been here, you know for a long time.

2013
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: But can you even get back to that level with

2014
01:42:57,960 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: some of these new faces, guys like Ray Kua mcm

2015
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: and guys who are you know, coming into this Patriot

2016
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: system and all they know is Stee Belichick to Raw Mayo,

2017
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 1: like you know, I do think. I mean, how are

2018
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 1: you gonna know? The proof will be in the pudding

2019
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 1: if these guys are able to come in and wow,

2020
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,719
Speaker 1: josh Ucha's really blossom here, I get it. With Ronnie Perkins,

2021
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 1: those things happen, then credit to those guys. But but

2022
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 1: that's what's got to happen, all right, Thanks, Aldred, appreciate

2023
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 1: the call. So sticking with the softball game, Fred Boss

2024
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 1: move just now like they had former Texas All American pitches,

2025
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 1: She's I'm one of the legends. Got kat Osterman? Do

2026
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:30,680
Speaker 1: you remember that name from you watch some of this

2027
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 1: softball stuff. I know, I don't remember. So Cat Osterman

2028
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 1: was like April Finch. She probably Jenny she probably still

2029
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:40,720
Speaker 1: plays on the national Team's Cat Osterman. But she's you know,

2030
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,639
Speaker 1: a huge Texas um pitcher um, one of the greatest ever.

2031
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 1: So she's there and they just did a you know,

2032
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: ESPN just did an interview with her. And as she's

2033
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: doing the interview, she's signing autograss Little Girls coming out there.

2034
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 1: That's a boss move. Yeah, Like, I'm doesn't even any

2035
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 1: of the later I got, I got you, Holly, but

2036
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 1: oh here yeah yeah um John and Boston says. The

2037
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: new season of The Boys premiers tomorrow. I will watch that.

2038
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 1: Are we going to get a recap of that show

2039
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 1: as well as obi Wan? Yeah, I'll watch that. Which

2040
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 1: the Boys Amazon, It's good show. What is superheroes? It's

2041
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 1: but no, but it's dark. They're there. They're superheroes that

2042
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 1: are jerks. Yeah, okay, I guess that's a good way

2043
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 1: to put it. You were like you, you were like

2044
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:26,560
Speaker 1: you love the Boys. Yeah, you got me into it.

2045
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 1: I watched the two seasons. I mean, Homelander, that guy's

2046
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:32,600
Speaker 1: a psycho. It's good superheroes owned by a company, and

2047
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 1: everything's just fake. All their actual heroing is you know

2048
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 1: TV production. It's good. It's good, good drama, little nice

2049
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: twist and turns and stuff. I'm invested. I just think

2050
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 1: the writing is good, it's clever. Yeah, what's that fresh platform? Amazon? Amazon?

2051
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime? Yeah, yeah, that's worth it. I have a

2052
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 1: couple of seasons. I'm like you, friend, I have it all.

2053
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:56,480
Speaker 1: You'll need it this year, I added courts. Yeah, I'm

2054
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 1: gonna be curious to see, um if I watch any

2055
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 1: of the games on Amazon. Which, speaking of which, where's

2056
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 1: the game that three play on the Thursday night that

2057
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 1: will be an Amazon? Because not the Thanksgiving not the

2058
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving one next week? Is that in Buffalo or here?

2059
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 1: I think it's here. It's here, Yeah it is, because yeah,

2060
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 1: it's here, So no issue there. I was wondering, how

2061
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: do how do we get that here in the in

2062
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 1: the studio right right? Yeah? Yeah? If that's a road game,

2063
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 1: how we're gonna have to make arrangements to get that stream? No,

2064
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,640
Speaker 1: but I thought that, um, it has to be on

2065
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 1: broadcast TV on the in the local market. Just slowly, Yeah,

2066
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 1: I think so, I think so, Okay, Yeah, just like

2067
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: an ESPN. It's on channel five here right when it's on.

2068
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 1: But that's a little different. It might be because you're

2069
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: not they're not paying exclusive rights to your Amazon is

2070
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 1: paying exclusive right to be streaming. You might be right.

2071
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: Bruins games this year weren't right. Yeah, you might be right, Paul.

2072
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 1: If if, even if you're in New England, you might

2073
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 1: be out of luck if you don't have Amazon Prime.

2074
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:05,600
Speaker 1: So we didn't see it. We can't really talk about it.

2075
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 1: That would that'll be interesting if that's the case, let's see,

2076
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 1: Anthony writes in he says Paul is right. The only

2077
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 1: time subway can feasibly be consumed is if you were

2078
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 1: forced to go to an event with the promise of

2079
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,679
Speaker 1: food being offered, and the only food offered is subway,

2080
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 1: and no other circumstance should that slot be consumed. Hope

2081
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 1: you aren't in the Eat Fresh studio. This coming from

2082
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 1: a person to wait a two cheeseburger meal from McDonald's

2083
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 1: for lunch tomorrow, was correct. That Firehouse is the best

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Speaker 1: hot sub chain is tomorrow from the Midwest. Well, she

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Speaker 1: did work at Notre Dame. She's been around. Yeah, from Virginia.

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Speaker 1: I have only seen Blimpie in Michigan, and she's right

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Speaker 1: there as well, very solid, cold subs, quick game. You

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Speaker 1: have to make the decision today on these promising youngsters.

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Speaker 1: Cut one, trade one, extend more. Oh I like it,

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Speaker 1: so cut one, trade one, extend one. Stevenson, Mac and

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Speaker 1: Barmoll Uh cut one, cut trade one on one, extend

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Speaker 1: cut steven That's why it's hard. Yeah, but that's like

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Speaker 1: I would extend Mac. I would trade Barmore because I

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Speaker 1: think I could get a lot for him. Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 1: I'd have to cut Stevenson, you know, if if I

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Speaker 1: have to do it that way, I would extend Barmore

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Speaker 1: and trade Mac. But you think you get more from

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Speaker 1: Mactan Barmore. No, I think Barmore was a better player.

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Speaker 1: I want to keep the better player. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: it's I'm just going by. Quarterbacks are tougher to get,

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Speaker 1: though it is hard to get a great quote. I

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Speaker 1: agree with you. A great quarterback is tougher to get.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the struggle with it is that

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Speaker 1: I think you easily could get another quarterback. Can you

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Speaker 1: get a great one that's different? Is he great? No?

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Speaker 1: Not in my opinion. Mike writes in he says a

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Speaker 1: video was released today. It's actually he wrote this in yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So a video was released yesterday showing the QB girl,

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Speaker 1: Tom House working with Mac. From the small clip, you

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Speaker 1: can already tell the impact he made to Mac. What

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Speaker 1: advantages do young quarterbacks get from working with the likes

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Speaker 1: of Tom House? What could you tell? I did watch that?

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Speaker 1: What could you tell that he got from it? What

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Speaker 1: could I tell? The email? He just said from the

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Speaker 1: quick the quick snippet, you could already tell the improved like, well, what, well,

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Speaker 1: it's just what Max said. Did you watch it? No?

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Speaker 1: So I watched it, and you know, it was more

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Speaker 1: where the shoulders are lined up, and so he had

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Speaker 1: Mac throw a few balls and then he said, okay,

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Speaker 1: try this, and he had him just think about, you know,

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01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 1: the the alignment of his shoulders and you know, where

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Speaker 1: the direction of his whole body was going. He goes,

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Speaker 1: so that feels better, right, and Mac goes yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he goes, no, you know, maybe he needs to get

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Speaker 1: his shoulders and lined at. I know, well that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Like I did the profile of Mac last year, like

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Speaker 1: he's been working with a QB coach since he was

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Speaker 1: in high school. So you know, no disrespect to Tom House.

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Speaker 1: But now it's all little tweaks here and there. But

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Speaker 1: is anybody gonna like be that guru that transforms you?

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Speaker 1: And I mean it's just it's doesn't need a transformation now,

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Speaker 1: he just needs he just needs a little more venocity,

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Speaker 1: a little bit more velocity, you know, like little things

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Speaker 1: like that, just to make him a little bit better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I and I think too with Mac, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: I talk a lot about I think people really discount

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Speaker 1: players improving. Like I think generally people like, that's what

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Speaker 1: you were, that's what you're gonna be. I think for

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Speaker 1: a player like Mac, experience seeing it so much of

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Speaker 1: it is mental for the quarterback position. But I think Mac,

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Speaker 1: especially the more experience he got last year and this

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Speaker 1: offseason and all those things with just seeing different looks

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Speaker 1: all that, just the experience I think is really what's

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Speaker 1: going to help him the most. All Right, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: wrap up a little early today, Yeah, Like let everyone

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Speaker 1: go early. So I want to thank everyone for listening.

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