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Speaker 1: So for people that don't know there was this insane

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Speaker 1: When have you ever been problematic? I ask this genuinely. Hmmm, truly,

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Speaker 2: going to be just one second?

431
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: Excuse me? What was it? Six seconds? First of all.

432
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: Now it wasn't you that I was doing about too.

433
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 1: But now I'm pissed you tried to cut me off

434
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: through Microsoft Teams meeting.

435
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: First of all, well that's this is my I don't

436
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: think so, honey. Oh what oh no, no, not you.

437
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 2: It's just just the platform, Microsoft Teams. I don't understand. No,

438
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 2: we need to save it.

439
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: It is. Actually I came in with this in the pocket.

440
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: I'm happy that you did. I didn't have anything today.

441
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: Life's been so good, everything's been great. You look great

442
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: in this cardion. By the way, thank you. This is

443
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things. It's from Corridor. I love Corridor. Yeah,

444
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: I really like them. They're really good. Oh look but

445
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: I've buttoned it incorrectly. That's okay, you know that that

446
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: horrible feeling. No, it looks even. It's good. It's even.

447
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,959
Speaker 2: You know what Qurridor is good at everything, knits, sweaters.

448
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: Sweaters, flannels. Gay and straight can wear, yes can. In fact,

449
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 1: sometimes you go in there and I can only describe

450
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: the atmosphere from people that work there as gay or

451
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: super friendly, great guys, And you leave being like all right,

452
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: all right, yeah I do leave Qurridor thinking God, I mean,

453
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: if we could all just come together at corridor. Yeah,

454
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: you know who's a straight guy that I Actually it's

455
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: worked on me. You know what I'm gonna say, Remind

456
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: me Dylan Efron from The Traders. Oh, we love Dylan.

457
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: I love the vibe. I love the vibe. It's just

458
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: a sweet boy. You see that one picture that floating

459
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: around online about him with his booty in the air. Oh, yes, sure,

460
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: we should literally put it up on the back wall

461
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: and just like have that be the thing for lost co.

462
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: Can you look up Dylan Efron booty. Yeah, and then

463
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: the airwife you're google search history later, Dylan Efron asks

464
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: in air he's in like the water or something. You

465
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: gotta look at it.

466
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen this picture. It's very Tate mc cray coded,

467
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: very Tate m cray coded. I'm excited to truly finally

468
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: see what she looks like Tate Tate, because you know,

469
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: on Iconic four hundred we were singing her braces. But

470
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 2: my bit back then was she's just moving around so much.

471
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: Still want to see your beautiful face. You want to

472
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: see a beautiful face. And of course this is all

473
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: in jest. We love Tate and she's a beautiful girl,

474
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 2: and she does have a history of sitting still and

475
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: being still.

476
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: We're about to we're about to have a conversation with her. Yes,

477
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: sing a little song for us, Sam McCray hands, This

478
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: is a bop. It's a great song. How you doing

479
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: over there with that gay search? What do you think?

480
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: All right? Now put it up here. Now, I know

481
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: it has to be a certain frame rate or something.

482
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna look at this. Whatever it is. Frame rate.

483
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: You can't get it up here. You can't get it

484
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: up it's on the drive. Then bring your computer over here.

485
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: We'll just show it to the camera. Show it to

486
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: the camera. Okay, So this is the picture. This is

487
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: a sort of famous picture of Dylan Efron. Now I'm

488
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: going to zoom in George. All right, so this is

489
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: what we're giving. This is good stuff. And now why

490
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: would that man do that if he wasn't trying to tease?

491
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: And I'm okay with it and bait a little well,

492
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, he's he looks like a skilled, skilled boy.

493
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: This is back arch culture. I mean, this is a

494
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: great picture. This is an amazing photo.

495
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: There's such a confidence in that pose, yeah, that it

496
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: makes you wonder and I And it's not like a

497
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: This is not a panic situation.

498
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: It's just like embrace it. The eyes are locked on

499
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: the camera to the national The eyes are national geographic eys.

500
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: You can only describe this as Tate McCray coated, of course,

501
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: it's actually real culture number ninety. You can only describe

502
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: as Tate McCray coated. Yeah, okay, thank you, Doug. We'll

503
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: return the laptop. I'm not ready to give it up.

504
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 1: Oh give it great. By the way, there was that

505
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: one scene of he comes over to take it. I

506
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: say no, No. There was that one scene of Dylan

507
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: Efron and Tom Sanderval walking up when they were in

508
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: like when they were a couple. Yeah. Spoiler alert for traders.

509
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: There's a duo challenge and Tom Sandaval and Dylan in

510
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: front are a duo in the challenge.

511
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: And they're like a married couple. They're both dressed up

512
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: and got you. It worked on me, unfortunately, the redemption

513
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: of Tom Sanderval. No, there's no redemption. There's no light

514
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: in that man's nose. The redemption is not working on me.

515
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm still oh please about Tom, But I will say

516
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: when I watched him and Dylan e Fron walk down

517
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: the aisle together.

518
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: I had thoughts, well, that was just the idea of

519
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: two men walking down the all of.

520
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: The am I that horny?

521
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: No, I've been okay, I'm about to get vulnerable.

522
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: That's what I've been wanting from it. It's not this

523
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: is the vulnerability the judges have been looking for, But

524
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: this is maybe what you're getting out does Sometimes I

525
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: can just kind of get there by just thinking about

526
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: the idea of two men kissing. I will say this

527
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yes, I would rather watch men make

528
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: out than do anything else. Well, all this other stuff

529
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: that they're doing on each other, then go to war.

530
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: Can I say I agree with you. I'd so much

531
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: rather watch men kiss than go to war.

532
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 2: Whoever did that mural in Berlin of whatever was it,

533
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: like Henry Kissinger and No Gorbachev making out or whatever?

534
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: That Berlin mural is just done that. They should have

535
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: just done that. Can I say something about these warmongers?

536
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: They would love get sex like it's so fun and

537
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: once you get over the hill of like the pain

538
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: or whatever, like you're gonna love the way you look.

539
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: I guarante, I guarantee you this is my thing not

540
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: to talk about the gender binary too much, but I think,

541
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: of course never we were talking. I was asking about

542
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts last night during the Super Bowl, and one

543
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: of our friends there was saying how he has like

544
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: an all female team basically love that manager, publicist whatever,

545
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: all women, and like he was asked about that and

546
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, I was raised by a strong mother,

547
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: and women are just better at their jobs and they're

548
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: just better people. And I was like, see, this is

549
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: the thing, and I thought, oh, sure, like because an

550
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: all male team would be like just all so much energy,

551
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: so much like pent up something where I'm like, I

552
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: mean not to say gay guys don't have their problems,

553
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: but you are. There is a nice release of the valve. Well,

554
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: they're constantly releasing valves. Yeah, not even necessarily on the weekends.

555
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: Sometimes it happens Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. My gay guys

556
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: or straight guys, can I say I released.

557
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: The valve on Friday day? That's great. My new thing

558
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: is I love a daytime, weekday hookup. And I understand

559
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: a lot of that's they're nine to fives. But for

560
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: those who have an alternative schedule talking to all my

561
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: gay podcasters out there. Daytime hookup is actually so good

562
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: because you have a lot of energy. Yeah, you haven't

563
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: eaten a lot yet that day, right or at all?

564
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: And I just like cooking up when I can see

565
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: the daylight, when you can go to a show. After

566
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: hooked up the other day, me and the guy when

567
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: got a sandwich? What? I just pitched it. What sandwich?

568
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: Did you get? Such a good sandwich? Actually, this part

569
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: I can be specific about. It was an insane It

570
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: was like a spicy pesto chicken sandwich that you could

571
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: never eat before you bottom during the day, but post

572
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: bottoming during the day. Roll up your sleeves. We're eating

573
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: spicy chicken. We're eating and fisting you. I didn't like

574
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: that language at all to the elbow. But were we

575
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: talking about that that came out? No, we were talking

576
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: about Oh, we were talking about someone we found someone

577
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: loves someone, we found out likes to be have this

578
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: sexual activity. It's on their menu, which is fisting. Yeah,

579
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: And I kind of just said but madd really dropped

580
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: into a character and he was like and he just

581
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: really he like mined it. I think we went we

582
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: were like a glove because they were talking about how

583
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: fisting begins right where.

584
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: It's like, you can't have to go with with fingers

585
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: like this. It's gotta be like Italian hands, like when

586
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: you hold a pen, right, this is how you hold

587
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: a pen.

588
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: No, I hold a pen weird, you see me? Right?

589
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: I have smudges all over this part of my hand

590
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: when I write thoughts on this. I'm a writer who

591
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: writes like a lefty. That's why.

592
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of great writers hold their pen in

593
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: a fucked up way, like yourself, Sylvia Plath, Sylvia Plath,

594
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: isn't it so curious anytime there's like a great artist

595
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: who like holds their pen like this, I'm like, Oh,

596
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: that's why I.

597
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: Loved the way you said. Isn't it so curious? Like

598
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: it's just the way you tossed that, Isn't it so curious?

599
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: Any good documentaries lately? You know what I just watched?

600
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: He Yeah, we haven't really talked about Peacock. Thank you, Peacock.

601
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: The only people saying the truth, Yes, people with journalistic integrity.

602
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: These days, it's only Peacock out there saying the truth.

603
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: It's only Peacock out there saying that this is a

604
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: coup this is the coup. They're not saying that. People

605
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: really aren't saying. People aren't saying it. Like did you

606
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: see that crazy as interview that Christine Nome did. By

607
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: the way, Christineome, I believe, I forget what's coming about.

608
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: But she's she's she's she's security, she's Homeland Security.

609
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: She's the one who shot her dog because it was

610
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: annoying and then gotten glammed before the ice raids in

611
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: New York. Yeah, so she was I think with Dana

612
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: Bash on CMN being like, we can't trust the government,

613
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: And Dana Bash was like, you are the government.

614
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: Can't trust the government, Like, what are they going to

615
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: say now that they can't say the problem? The fault

616
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: is entirely with the.

617
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: That's them saying we are just here to dismantle right

618
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: right right right?

619
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: What I mean? Okay? Cool? But it's like, but then, like,

620
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: where does that authority come from? Anyway? You know what

621
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: I love about all this? It's making eggs cheaper. You're

622
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: not to live about all these executive orders like totally

623
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: changing the.

624
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: Price of milk and thank god, the ten trans athletes

625
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: in the United States can no longer compete.

626
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: What are we talking about and you know progressive media

627
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: is falling apart too.

628
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: You were telling me about this drama between the young Turks. Oh,

629
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: the young Turks is in shambles. Well it's oh god,

630
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: it's crazy.

631
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: Like just to watch them make like a right word swing,

632
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: to watch a on like Jillian Michaels' podcast, it's crazy.

633
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: Jillian Michaels is out is out here with the right

634
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: wing podcast. This is my impression of Jillian Michaels on

635
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: her podcast. Yeah, yeah, biggest loser Jillian Michaels. Yes, she

636
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: opposite direction us Bob Harper. Bob Harper went to the

637
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: Truth and the Light, which is Peacock the Traders. Jillian

638
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: went swinging right podcast? What was? How did we get

639
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: on this? I don't know how we've gotten on a

640
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: single thing we've talked about today. It's been one of

641
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: the documentaries. Oh we didn't talk about Didty. We haven't

642
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: talked about Ditty on this podcast, and do we have to?

643
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: Maybe not? Maybe we don't. What's the papists? But the thing, Okay,

644
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: this is what I think we can say about Ditty.

645
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: When you really look back at like making the band,

646
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: and you really look back at all of the media

647
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: that we have of him pretty much everything. It's kind

648
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: of shocking that no question was asked about the way

649
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: he treated anyone in his orbit, because it was an

650
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: exclusively abusive and totalitarian but his version of he's an

651
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 1: abusive narcissist, which might feel like it's a redundant thing,

652
00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: but it's like he was always very good at the image.

653
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: And of course, if you watch any isolated episode of

654
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: making the band, you're like, fuck, that's a monster. But

655
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: then like after this club shooting that Jalo was that,

656
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: it's like that's so that's another crazy thing. After that

657
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: club shooting, and after he was acquitted because he had

658
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: fucking Johnny Cochran on the horn, like, yeah, he really

659
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: like cleaned up the He like took years off, cleaned

660
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: up the pr changed his name to Diddy from puff Daddy.

661
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: Like he was always really good at like shifting the perception.

662
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: And you know, and even when even last year when

663
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: like you know, Cassie filed the complaint in the and

664
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: the civil suit, like he was denied tony, deny, and

665
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: then the video came out of him in the towel

666
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: like chasing after her and beating the shit out of

667
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: her when that video came out, he goes on live

668
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: or he just releases some front facing video being like that,

669
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: take full response, takes full responsibility.

670
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: I've listened to a lot of podcasts about narcissists in

671
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: the past couple of years and just trying to understand

672
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: this behavior, and it's anything they can do in a

673
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: moment to get to shirk responsibility or to to just

674
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: like another tactic is I'm going to say out loud

675
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: the thing that's wrong about myself so that I can

676
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: claim it as a victim narrative and no one can

677
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: say it about me. Right Like these people when they're

678
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: put into a corner. It's not always the Trump thing

679
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: of like you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong. There's other

680
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: also another narcissistic tactic, which is I'm going to make

681
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: myself seem like such a pathetic victim and like say

682
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: all this stuff about myself so that actually everyone else

683
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: is rendered speechless because I've already said it. They have

684
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: no intent on actually changing, but they need everyone to

685
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: know that they're aware, because wouldn't it be crazy if

686
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: they weren't. That's like another tactic that you see.

687
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: I I was going to connect a Dot to housewives,

688
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: but it see, oh yeah, it's giving that right.

689
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: I think that it's insane to compare her to Diddy. No,

690
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean no, but I do think like I actually

691
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: I have felt pretty triggered because you see all these

692
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: like narcissists getting away with everything. It's like, I'm sorry,

693
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: but you watch the super Bowl the other night. Trump

694
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: comes out to all of this applause and all of

695
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: this fanfare while the world gets expeditiously worse by the second.

696
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: And then you watch like all the commercials and it's

697
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: like Casey afflecks back in a super Bowl commercial and

698
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: like Tom Cruise is still Tom Cruise, Like he's not

699
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: the figurehead of a cult, you know what I mean.

700
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: It's like it's very frustrating. And then I turned to

701
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: the room and I was like, this is kind of crazy, right,

702
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: and someone was like, straight, white men are back, They're back.

703
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: And then there was that bud Light commercial. The over

704
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: correction there is wild, right, It's a lot. It's like, Okay,

705
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: we really are making a big pivot back to like

706
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: not just a conservative mindset, but like a truly like

707
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: fuck off to anyone that's tried to make us feel

708
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: badly for being who we are, a straight white men.

709
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: It's like that wasn't even what happened. All we wanted

710
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: was like for there to be some accountability about the

711
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: pain that's been caused by a straight white man only

712
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: ideology for this long. Like they're just upset that people

713
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: have a voice now, and so it's like that was

714
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: one thing, but then it was like when media included

715
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: people and tried to make everyone feel included in like

716
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: a you know, consumerist way, that's when they really had

717
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: had enough. Sure, yeah, like you can't be in our

718
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: bud Light commercials? Yeah not bud Light. Right, Well they're back.

719
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 1: So they're back. So what happens now to last coach?

720
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't tell.

721
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: I think Jillian Michaels is third co host vibes, Yeah

722
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: we do and tear. We absolutely slay the house down

723
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: Boots with Megan Carelly.

724
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: The Red Scare Girls were on Megan Kelly. Oh great.

725
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: They were having martinis and talking about the election. What

726
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: kind of martinis? I wonder, I don't know. I think

727
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: they were having martini's. I think that was the part

728
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: of it by that I pulled. I was like, are

729
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: they fucking drinking martinis and talking about the end of

730
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: the world. Anyways, what part of you was afraid right now? Oh?

731
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: A huge part? Yeah, yeah, I mean right now in

732
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: even talking about all this and talking about it right

733
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: now essentially, I just mean like when you get on

734
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: the mic and talk about this types of stuff, I don't.

735
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: Think like, no one's gonna like come knocking on our

736
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: door because it's like they're not worried about.

737
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: Us, you know what I mean.

738
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: They were never worried about us, And We've never been

739
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: like warriors in that sense.

740
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: I've never been a warrior. I'm a gay guy that

741
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: likes to like have text during the day totally. But

742
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: when are they going to come for us with that?

743
00:39:59,520 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: I know?

744
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: But that's the like gay guys who have sex during

745
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: the day literally don't threaten anything about like it doesn't

746
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: concern them at all, So like there's no need. But

747
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 2: they're gonna want to come for that, but like there's

748
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: no need to, you know what I mean. I think

749
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: it's because they haven't done it yet. I'm telling you

750
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: the other day, like I had such incredible sex during

751
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: the day with a gay guy and I was like,

752
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: this is the key This is like the key yea

753
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: for people to just understand, like, while you're out here

754
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 2: wreaking havoc from a government's perspective, you could be getting

755
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 2: it from behind on the floor during the day. That's

756
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: how you know it's real. I'm just saying, hardwood, okay, carpeted.

757
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: Took the took the comforter off the bed, through it

758
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: on the ground and pointed to the floor. You did that, No,

759
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: he did that. I said, this is exactly right, Kennel Vibe.

760
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: I even said, I know that's right out loud. Can

761
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: you if after every position changed during gay sex? I

762
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: know that's right. Me on the floor, I know that's right.

763
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: Me getting into the butt.

764
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: I know that's right, me opening the door to trade

765
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: coming in. We don't have a minute to spare.

766
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: Don't bring her into this. Sometimes this podcast is just

767
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: for me and you in a way where I'm like,

768
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: how are people listening to it? And then so many

769
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: people do, because there's gonna be people that exactly know

770
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: the reference when you say we don't have a minute

771
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: to spare, and the people know that reference in part

772
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 1: because of you. I'm not giving any I'm just saying,

773
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: like you introduced me to brook ash I spotlight the

774
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: right people. Oh and I am a faithful brick Ashley

775
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: watcher every episode, every episode I have been. I have

776
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: had a harder time sitting through the live reactions to

777
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: all the Housewives episodes that she's had because they tend

778
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: to be long. There's a long time, and you got

779
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: a lot you have to get with a lot of people.

780
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: And I think she's a very talented editor. I think

781
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: she's very good at just cutting together a nice forty

782
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: minute recap. You know, speaking of Housewives recaps, I have

783
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: a very bad feeling about your girl, Stacy Rush at

784
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: the Potomac reunion. Explain, did you see the preview for it?

785
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: I saw the preview that they played at the finale,

786
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: but no, it is alleged that she paid TJ also

787
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: Es Yeah, to be her boyfriend. I've heard, and that

788
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: he finally is like, she hasn't paid me. I'm not

789
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: coming to the fucking reunion. It was all fake. How

790
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: are you going to deal with that? If it's true,

791
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: which it looks like. I think that's iconic. Stacy Rush

792
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: is a perfect housewife.

793
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: They've even said in the Vulture recaps that she is

794
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: an alpha. Oh no, I'm sorry, she's an apex predator

795
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: house in the making. The way she came, she went

796
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: after Karen Angisel by the end of the season, I

797
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 2: know that's right, But put the comforter on the floor

798
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: because I know that's I'm taking. I'm taking in the

799
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: butt from that from Stacy Rush. She is the most

800
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the thing. It's a it's a

801
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: lookism thing. It's like, she's so beautiful that I don't

802
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: care what she does.

803
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, so you you don't care if it comes

804
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: to light that she paid this actor?

805
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: Is that the worst thing anyone can do? By the way,

806
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: that's not a morally wrong thing. It's explicitly not real

807
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: your reality.

808
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: But is that not a new I love watching you

809
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: swim upstream. I'm not swimming upstream. I I think you'll

810
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: agree with me. Is that like new achievement unlocked? Like

811
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: we have not seen a housewife do that. That's an

812
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: iconic novel housewife behavior paying for some random insane man

813
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: because he is crazy. That's the other thing is his

814
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: behavior now that we know it's probably fake, his behavior

815
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: is like even wilder because like, did he think he

816
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: was gonna book as a result of this on camera activity.

817
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: You look wacko, sir, you're a wacko jacko and he

818
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: and is that not amazing for a house to do?

819
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: Sally? Yes, But he comes in on fifteen out of

820
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: time with aj her her friend. Yes. Yes, And then

821
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: he was like, she doesn't want a problem, and so

822
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: neither of us are a problem, and I have a problem.

823
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: And then he drags her away and she's like, you're

824
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: you're giving a lot of energy, You're alive. And he

825
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: was like, I just wanted some time with you. I

826
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: want a time with you. He is, he looks so

827
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: beautiful and I'm so happy to be here. It's like

828
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: so clear that it's safe when you look back. But

829
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: it's like she got more than she bargained for. You

830
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: got more than she bargained for. But that is a

831
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: new that's something. And I'm being genuine here. I'm not

832
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: I'm not like being gymnastic about this. It's like she

833
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: is so interesting. Can I tell you what I think

834
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: is gonna happen? Yes, I think Robin's coming back, and

835
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm not mad about it. I keep taking these ls.

836
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: Do you look at it as an L? Yes, she's

837
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: bad on TV. No, I don't think she is. I

838
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: actually liked Robin on Traders on Traders. Sure, I'm willing,

839
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: I'm I'm willing to burn this with Robin. Really, why

840
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: won't you burn it? Where was that from? Again? That's

841
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: set Lake City? Why won't you burn it? Lisa? Why

842
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: won't you burn it?

843
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: She comes over to the other couch, burn it, burnet,

844
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: burn it. No, I was ready to burn it with Gizzelle,

845
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: and then she got went ahead and showed her ass.

846
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: She made it too personally redeemable. I'm sorry, I would.

847
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: Say, Gizelle, it's a note. I'm interested in Robin Dixon. Listen.

848
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: I think it will be interesting to have her come

849
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: back in light of all the Karen stuff, especially if

850
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: Karen is going to jail. Do you think she's gonna

851
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: go to There's a high chance there's a Nazi. There's

852
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: not even a non zero chanceship. It's a definition. There

853
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: is a definition and the words of Madam Warrible. Definition

854
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: chance is my favorite thing. You said it twice a day,

855
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: at least in front of me. There is a definition chance.

856
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: If you work as you should, you be ma. That

857
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: is literally my message to Robin there's a definie chance

858
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: if you work as you should, you'll be making good. Yeah,

859
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: because I think Robin, this is the thing. You kind

860
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: of have to look back at the whole thing with

861
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: different eyes now that we found out that there's the

862
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: stuff is Karen is so deep and dark. But what

863
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: does that have to do with Robin. Robin was always

864
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: on Karen's ass, right, and Karen acts like and I

865
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: love Karen Hughes, We love Karen hu but she's acted

866
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 1: like bigger and better than all of it for such

867
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: a long time, right, and then all of a sudden

868
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: looming there's this like darkness, which you know she wasn't well,

869
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: she's she's always been so obsessed with the etiquette and

870
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: what's what's potomac and what's not potomac. Etiquette obsession is

871
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: so funny to me.

872
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: Well it's it does belie lie this thing that she

873
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: has nothing figured out in her life, that like Ray

874
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: never fucking paid his taxes or whatever, and like there

875
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: was a man another man with her in the car

876
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 2: that night.

877
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: Do we believe that that's true? I think that might

878
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: be true.

879
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 2: But this is all, this is all you know, we

880
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: need Wendy Williams more than ever.

881
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: So apparently she's she's done that interview where she where

882
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: people are like, she sounds normal. I think that's a

883
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: hard thing to say. It's hard to anyone in any

884
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: like because she also has a diagnosis. So it's like

885
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: people that struggle with you know, any sort of I

886
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: don't even know how it comes. Maybe a bit of

887
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: like situation. You're gonna have good days and bad days.

888
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: So I get the entire internet being like, see, look

889
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: she's fine. It's like, I don't know, she's got a

890
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: diagnosis from a doctor. We've also seen her be very

891
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: not fine. Right, So I think people should continue to

892
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: let the nationals weigh in on what Wendy should or

893
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: should not be doing.

894
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that. By the way, I'm a doctor.

895
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: Well I presented something. Now laugh Jordan Doug, are you

896
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: got y'all laughing? He laughed at me when I said

897
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 2: I was a doctor. I have four degrees.

898
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: I only have one degree. I know.

899
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: I had a census worker call me and she for

900
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: some reason the way she said, and you have one

901
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: bachelor's degree, yes, And I said, uh huh. For some reason,

902
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: it sounded like a dick and.

903
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: You have me. Look here. Oh it's easy to count

904
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: because it's just one bachelor's degree. It's easy. It's a

905
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: Bachelor of Arts in chemistry. That's interesting for n y u. Okay,

906
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: now that makes sense. So one bachelor's of Arts in chemistry,

907
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: it says here, just looking at your extra crict danger

908
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: box improv very good fun improv group. That's very good

909
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: fun improv group. Okay, okay, So yep, I guess I've

910
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 1: heard all I need to hear as the census hangs

911
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: up the phone. One idiot, useless, idiot, waste of money

912
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: bag gay guy that I call a fagot. Where are

913
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: we on the word fagot because I'm embracing it, as

914
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: you can see, I've used it several times.

915
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: Is it a thing where our friends over at Stradio

916
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: Lab have said reclaiming an insult is, which I don't

917
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: think fagot applies.

918
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: They'll say hanging Aboustralia Lab. They'll say anything. They just

919
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: want to clicks. No, you can never be lost college period.

920
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: Well, I predict a rise in that slur being used

921
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: just in a more general.

922
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: Certainly certainly well, straight white men being so back right.

923
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: I've read that's your bottom dollar that you're gonna hear

924
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: the word faggot. I hear it's happening in the Austin

925
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: comedy scene a lot. I keep on the ground, Yeah,

926
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: and tell him me to go to oil Can Harry's.

927
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: And you know, you can call someone a faggot if

928
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: you've if you've had an anal fisher. I wouldn't wish

929
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: that on anybody.

930
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: If you've experienced anal pain in such a crazy apocalyptic way,

931
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: like every gay man has, you can use that word.

932
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Remember yesterday what I went to the bathroom to pee,

933
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: came out of the bathroom and I was like, ah,

934
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: because I had like a sudden, insane pain in my butthole.

935
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: You remember that. Yeah, I am the transparent one on

936
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: this show. I'm transparent. Say something transparent. Oh my god,

937
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: I am. I shave. I shave.

938
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: I did a full pube shave for the first time

939
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: in months because a man asked you to no, because

940
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: I was like, it's I'm getting I gotta whack the weeds.

941
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: Imagine a man like rolling over and being like that

942
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: was great. Next time. I just for me. My preference

943
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: is that you shave everything. Kiss me so good. Babe, Oh,

944
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 1: do you like to be a little spoon or big spoon? Nice?

945
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: I like to be big. I say, feel good? Feel good?

946
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: You feel even better? Hairless spooning or how do we feel?

947
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: It's always good for five to ten minutes? And five

948
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: and ten seems like a liberal sort of allotment of time,

949
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: because you know what happens when you spook Okay, this

950
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: is arms arms go. No, this is unfortunately what happens

951
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: when spooning works too well. Oh, and I'm going to

952
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: reveal this and the person that this is about listens

953
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: to this podcast. I'm just gonna know. And no one

954
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: acknowledged this when it happened, but I am acknowledging it now.

955
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: So I hook up with someone while I'm on tour.

956
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: I know this person. Well yeah, so we've sort of

957
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: have like a like a friend slash sex relationship and

958
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: have sex great, wonderful, and then afterwards he's big spoon.

959
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: Uh huh. And it actually was good big spoon where

960
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: you actually could sleep like that really, but unfortunately it

961
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: was just good. We just like had good but bed

962
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: kem it was. We're gonna come on the podcast. I'm

963
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: so serious. It's but it's you're saying it's it was

964
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: good puzzle pieces. It was really good puzzle pieces we had.

965
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: And I was feeling like, oh, I actually could fall

966
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: asleep with this lovely no risk of any relationship here,

967
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: he's in a relationship, et cetera. So I go into

968
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 1: that dream state of like where you're like half asleep,

969
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: half whatever, and when you're being held like that, and

970
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: you have sense memory to a time when being held

971
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: like that you were in a relationship. I half asleep.

972
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: He shifted a little bit and I kind of went

973
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: back and I kissed him, and I said I love you,

974
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: and I felt this isn't a stupor, like was it

975
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 1: a stuper Yeah? And I literally I'm not in love

976
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: with this person. I don't. I do love this person.

977
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: I care for them sex, but I don't. The way

978
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: I understand is because I was somewhere else. I think

979
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: I honestly got triggered to a time when I was

980
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: in love with a man that held me. And and

981
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: so I go, love you, I love you. It's fully

982
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: three words, because love you is different than I love you.

983
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 1: I fully say I love you. I feel him go, look,

984
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: I feel it kind of like a shift and then

985
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: I lay down and now I'm like wide awake because

986
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh fuck, like I just like that woke

987
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: you up? Or the shift book. It was like the

988
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: shift and then I love you and then his like

989
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: little like moment. I could have gone right back to

990
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: bed because I was in half ram but I was like,

991
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: oh no, I just said I love you to the sky.

992
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: Oh that's so bad. And I just played dead and

993
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: then it was fine and we never talked about it

994
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: until now and I so you said, this is the

995
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: first time you bringing up after it, after the after

996
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: I almost said something right in the moment, but I thought,

997
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: like I almost because like you know, when twenty seconds

998
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: passed and then twenty five, and then I could have

999
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: just been like, hey, I said I love you. I

1000
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: don't mean it, I do, but like you know, and

1001
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: he would have been like, it's I think windows is

1002
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: always open. I mean it's out there and it's out

1003
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: there now the windows so okay. So and he listens,

1004
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: and you think, religiously he will okay, he will receive that.

1005
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: I will receive a DM. That's great, and I think

1006
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: it's great unless he doesn't remember, which that's also fine.

1007
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: But I guess now he's being reminded, I don't love

1008
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: any of you that I fuck once. Can I just say, like,

1009
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: that's not like I think. The earliest I've said it

1010
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: is after three.

1011
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: Three times, after three times, that was that, that was

1012
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: the soonest you had said I loved it, I love you.

1013
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but three times this person, Yes, I've had sex

1014
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: with like three or four times. So then you but

1015
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: it was a mistake. I've said I love you one

1016
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: time for real, which was a horrible mistake that I

1017
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: made after like after three times once and it was

1018
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: it was too soon. But you live. You learn, Yeah,

1019
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: you learn. Well, thanks for sharing that.

1020
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm the transparent one. I don't well,

1021
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: you know, you're the combative one. You're the combative one,

1022
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: is what you are, and so you wield.

1023
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: I am the heart of this podcast. Yeah, absolutely, you

1024
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: are the soul. I don't know about that. What are you?

1025
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm giving. I really don't know

1026
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: what I'm giving. I love this topic, I love this

1027
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: What do you mean you don't know what you're giving?

1028
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm back, you know what it is. I'm back in

1029
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 2: a moment of like it's just okay. One thing, onto

1030
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 2: the next, onto the next. I've done the four cross

1031
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: country flights in two weeks. I literally barely know where

1032
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: I am. This is dark echoes of like the hard

1033
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: moments of shooting.

1034
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: You actually feel that way a little bit.

1035
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'm like, I don't think I've ever been funny

1036
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: or I've ever been like it's like it's no, and

1037
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: I know you're rolling your eyes, and but this is

1038
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: the thing that just like anyone who like works professionally

1039
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: in comedy like feels. It's a universal feeling and so like,

1040
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 2: that's not I'm not like hard on myself.

1041
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: And you can draw the line to fatigue.

1042
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: Yes, but again, so uninteresting to talk about that on

1043
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: this podcast. And I really have tried not to talk

1044
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: about this. I don't think it's uninteresting at all, but

1045
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: I talk. There was a moment on the podcast where

1046
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: I was talking about it a lot, and people were like, oh,

1047
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: being tired, being tired.

1048
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: But that's different than like, my perception of myself is

1049
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: in the flux, and it affected because I am so busy,

1050
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: which you could draw a line to success and but

1051
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: but that is like it's getting fuzzy for you, and

1052
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't I don't connect it to success at all.

1053
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: But the reason why you're traveling so much is because That's.

1054
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, is because there's just things to be

1055
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: at for the next couple of months.

1056
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: Right, when will that end? April? April is when?

1057
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: Like April's when like the award stuff is done, and

1058
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: like I'm backing to regular schedule it us and now

1059
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: like that's so the Oscars isn't like the finish line

1060
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: for I think Oscars is the finish up. And then

1061
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: after Oscars, like there's more stuff you and I might

1062
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: have to talk about a trip. Oh right, yeah, but

1063
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: that's fun, that's fun. It just but right now my

1064
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: brain is only registering it. It's like another place to

1065
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 2: be at.

1066
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: We'll reframe that later totally, but I want to go

1067
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: to Berlin.

1068
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm still coasting on the Japan trip, Like I'm still

1069
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: like in such a positive thing, such a positive.

1070
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: Thing, and like I will hold on too that for

1071
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. Like a friend was asking

1072
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: me about it the other night, and I just like

1073
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: even just in recounting and I just got emotional again

1074
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: just talking about the Pokemon plane and talking about the

1075
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: food I ate and all these things and the wrestling,

1076
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: the new Japan Pro Wrestling, Oh my god. And then

1077
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with you to the Academy Awards. Do

1078
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: you think that we'll have like pretty good seats? I

1079
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: mean I hope so I tell also, what doesn't matter,

1080
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be. You took our best sie Jared

1081
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: to the Critics' Choice Awards and if you if you know,

1082
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, he was in the front.

1083
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: We were front and center, aligned with the microphone.

1084
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: It was unreal. Oh my god.

1085
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: We got to meet the whole substance team, the producers

1086
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: who tell them what they said they listened to the episode.

1087
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: I think maybe the pot I mean like publicists are

1088
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: out in full force, literally in the in the professional

1089
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: sense and in the last culture sense. Like I mean,

1090
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: it was very nice to connect with some of you,

1091
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: a lot, all of you really like. It's fun. Like

1092
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: we're all just talking about movies that we like. That's

1093
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: just that's just what it is.

1094
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: All we wanted was to me more on the podcast,

1095
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: but we don't think it can work. You don't think

1096
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: it can work. But we got to meet Coraly. That's

1097
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: so cool.

1098
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: Got to meet Margaret and Jack and.

1099
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: Margaret and Jack doesn't get bigger than.

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00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: That for me, ultimates and it was so fun. You

1101
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: know who was connecting with Jared? Who with Cynthia.

1102
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: I heard about this.

1103
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: Cynthia and Jared were connecting a lot because any time

1104
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 2: they would roll the nominees packages. These are two people

1105
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: who have the same media died apparently because they'd be like,

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00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: I love that show, or that was an amazing short,

1107
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: Oh that documentary wasn't like they like, these are just

1108
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: two people who've seen everything.

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00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: Jared told me that he was like, Sing Sing my

1110
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: favorite movie of the year, and that Cynthia went, sing

1111
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: Sing is my favorite movie of the year. It's absolutely

1112
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: my favorite movie of the year.

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00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: Really good in Cynthy, Lauren, Lauren mad Cynthia, he love

1114
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: that he'd love that John m g winning Best Director.

1115
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: So that was so great.

1116
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 2: Just to expl because people seem to have comments about this.

1117
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: The Orlando Bloom, who presented the award, pointing out that

1118
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: in the past, I think since Argo, so it looked

1119
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: that's like the past twelve years, every director who's won

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01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: the Critics Choice for Best Director has gone on to

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01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: win Best Director at the Oscars.

1122
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: And we say since Argo because Ben Affleck ben a

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01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: Cup was famously snubbed for the nomination for the Photographer

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Speaker 1: Best Director. Yes, so this is the first time, because

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Speaker 1: every single year since that director has won the Oscars,

1126
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: and now John is not nominated for the Oscar.

1127
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: John was snubbed for the Oscar snub. And so when

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Speaker 2: he took the stage and won, with that information sort

1129
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: of top of mind for everybody, he said, I'm gonna

1130
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 2: win that Oscar and it was clearly a joke. You

1131
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: handsome as hell, so handso End did not have his

1132
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: speech prepared, did not have his phone with him, Off

1133
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: the cuff, off the dome, gave the best speech of

1134
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: the night.

1135
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: I think off the cuff is the way to do it.

1136
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's real. It's like he just started with the

1137
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: word I've always loved telling stories, and it just went

1138
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: from there. And then he talked about being in his

1139
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: parents restaurant, comber Food to Comfort Prices, talking about like

1140
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: spending his days just like writing and drawing at the

1141
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: restaurant while he was just trying to like get through

1142
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 2: the day. And it just reminded me of like all

1143
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: the times that like I would I would just like

1144
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: make up stories like at Chinese school when I was

1145
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: just waiting for my parents to finish up, like it's

1146
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: just it just like dug up this thing in me

1147
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: where I was like, God, this is just what we

1148
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: This is just what everybody in that room wants to do.

1149
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: And he told the most radical story of the year

1150
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: to me in like this mythic fantasy setting.

1151
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of great interesting subversive stuff this

1152
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: year at the Oscars, but I feel like Wicked is

1153
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: this trojan horse of a thing where it's like about

1154
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: and whatever, like anti fascism, racism and like careerism and

1155
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: like all these things that like is such a huge

1156
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: accessible container for everybody that like it's pretty incredible. And

1157
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: I say, this is someone who like I have been.

1158
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: I've said I have just enough of an objective like

1159
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: POV and that's not objective, but like I'm obviously biased,

1160
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: but I just think, like I love that movie so much,

1161
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: even when I can easily forget that I'm involved, I'm

1162
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: just like, that's such a great fucking as he said

1163
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: anything to you guys about Wicked for good, like, yeah,

1164
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: they're still in the edit. Okay, so no trailer to

1165
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl unfortunately. Sorry, y'all.

1166
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 2: They just want to get it right. But they've been

1167
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 2: busy with the word stuff, so like it's the timeline

1168
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: is just the dance card has been full. When did

1169
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: the When did the Wicked teaser trailer come out?

1170
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: Was it? It was Super Bowl last year? I see,

1171
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: so people were expecting it this year. But it will

1172
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: be great. Do you think that Cynthia and Arianna will

1173
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: continue to do pink and green all the way through

1174
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: or do you think they'll shift to a darker vibe

1175
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: because it's a darker frien. I think they'll shift to

1176
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: a darker film. I think always going to start working

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01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: some blue in as we've seen or I'm not actually

1178
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: seen on the Red Carpets, but like she and they've

1179
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: already started to move away from pink and green. Like

1180
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,919
Speaker 1: but yes, one of Glenna's dresses and for good is blue,

1181
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: as we've seen from those photos. You've seen those photos.

1182
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have what scene is that from?

1183
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: It's another I think it's another munchkin Land scene where

1184
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 2: she's with Fierro, and I think people have like clocked

1185
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: those stills.

1186
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: And you have no knowledge of the new song that

1187
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: Cynthia wrote for Forno. I don't honest to God's truth.

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01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't. Why did you look away from me? I

1189
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: just for me as someone who studies body language, because

1190
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: I've been studying a lot of Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively

1191
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: body language. I noticed that when you said honest to God,

1192
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: I don't you looked all the way up here. I

1193
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: was looking too.

1194
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: I was looking at that camera, and I was addressing

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01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: the listener readers. Katie's publicist Colles finalists honest to God,

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01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 2: Honest to God? I don't, And I really like, what

1197
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 2: do you want me to say?

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01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: Sing the song? I don't know this song? Sing Cynthia's song.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't think where it's going

1200
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: to come in. I don't know. I really don't know.

1201
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: I can't wait for No Good Deed. Oh, I mean

1202
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: no good Deed. I can't wait for much of the

1203
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: Witch Hunters because that song goes off. Are you in that? No?

1204
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: So what can you say about Fanny's role? What can

1205
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: you tease for us what Fanny gets up to a

1206
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: wicked For Fanny.

1207
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 2: And Shenshin have seen their world view sort of payoff,

1208
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 2: which is we just want status, and that's all I'll say.

1209
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: Do you think that their fall will be precipitous? I

1210
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: think I think their fall will be maybe quite literal.

1211
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how this turns, to see

1212
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: how this turns out. You know they're saying Anora is

1213
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: gonna win Best Picture.

1214
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: Wait, and that's the favorite after DJAPG yep, And I'm

1215
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 2: I'm all for it, down for it, down for although

1216
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: I don't know there's a case to be made about.

1217
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm just speaking to reputable people about this, huh. And

1218
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: there's a case to be made at because voting opened

1219
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 2: up this week for Roscars. There's a case to be

1220
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: made about because the news has been so awful, something

1221
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 2: might motivate people to vote for, like the feel good

1222
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 2: but still politically relevant movie in Wicked.

1223
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's out of it.

1224
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: It's not out of it. I especially with the John

1225
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: Chewin a Critics Choice. I think that there's the John

1226
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: Chew win at Critics Choice. I think the SAG Awards

1227
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: are still coming up. I think that the predictions were

1228
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: that you guys would take Saga Ensemble. But now I

1229
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: don't you know what I thought was gonna happen. I

1230
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: thought maybe producer Skill was going to go to a

1231
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: complete unknown just because it's like a lot of Bob

1232
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: Dylan fans. Let's say, but I just don't think that

1233
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: movie's that great. And I think that Anora now feels

1234
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: like they were saying with ranked choice voting, it feels

1235
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: like nobody hates Anora, whereas like every other movie and

1236
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: even if they have a lot of love, there's like

1237
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: a lot of hatred. So like the way that you

1238
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: win Best Picture Oscar is if if you get ranked

1239
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: two or three on everyone's ballot, you're gonna war. Is

1240
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: that the Green Book effect? You think sort of, yeah,

1241
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: it's like a movie that people well because people have

1242
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: kind of hated Green Book, but by the end after

1243
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: voting it closed, you know, yeah, well it's like it

1244
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: kind of became the villain late, right, so it was

1245
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: maybe too late, whereas Amelia Press that film has become

1246
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: the villain quite early, and it's like sort of doomed.

1247
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: But Anora, if it's not people's number one, it's probably

1248
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: people's two, three, or four. And that's because everything else

1249
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: is super polarizing. It's it's rate a queen. Yeah, it's

1250
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: rate a Queen. It's rate of Queen rules this year.

1251
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: It's great a queen rules at the Oscars. I want

1252
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: to ask you about because you brought it up me Yes,

1253
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: Blake and Baldoni, Oh, because we did. We kind of

1254
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: touched on this with on the Sarah episode. I mean,

1255
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: four hundred million dollars on top of the two hundred

1256
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars. My bit that whole week was

1257
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: so sorry, I have to take those sex. My husband

1258
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: and I are being super for four hundred million dollars.

1259
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: I actually only have about fifteen minutes. My husband and

1260
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: I are being super four hundred million dollars. Could we

1261
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: actually do lunch at two? I have something from twelve

1262
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: to one. It's a long story. My husband bring suit

1263
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: four hundred million dollars. That's really see that's a great

1264
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: sort of nunciation elocution. I mean, were going really great.

1265
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: Tom's car got three times. I don't even know that

1266
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: it's been a lot. Can I ask them? Can I

1267
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: ask like a you can ask anything. I I am

1268
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: so deep on this. I'm so deep on this. It

1269
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: seems like.

1270
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: The prevailing story is that they're both bad.

1271
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: I think that that is coming to light, like there's

1272
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: certainly been bad behavior on both sides, sure, but I

1273
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: am tending to side with Blake in this situation for

1274
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: the most part because the Baldoni stuff is like like

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01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: he is like suing like his old publicist now for

1276
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: like releasing the text of the Times, and like there's

1277
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: just it seems like there's more stuff. There's more tracks

1278
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: being like covered up on the Baldoni side that there

1279
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: are a million lawsuits now flying around for so much money,

1280
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: so insane. The New York Times has involved, all these

1281
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: PR firms are involved, et cetera. It's truly a story

1282
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: of just rich how dark. Like the way Hollywood works,

1283
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: It's like it's because here's here's the real truth. You

1284
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: can be an asshole. It's not against the law. What's

1285
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: against the law is, you know, paying people in order

1286
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: to bury someone defamation, sexual harassment on set, Like this

1287
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: type of thing is like against the law. So he

1288
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: can prove a million ways to Sunday that she's a

1289
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: fucking asshole, but that's the law. But it's not against

1290
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: the law. And so basically he may have to pay

1291
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: based on stuff that like I'm sorry, but Megan Towey,

1292
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: it's Pulitzer prize winning journalists at the New York Times,

1293
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: like pretty much proved in that piece, and he can

1294
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: sue them or whatever, but like, you can't really dispute

1295
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:56,879
Speaker 1: the fact that he paid extremely expensive publicists to destroy

1296
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: her and that it worked. It worked. And I think

1297
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: what he is kind of violently retaliating against is this

1298
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: image that he's built up of himself as being this

1299
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: like feminist and like this advocate ragmon, which I think

1300
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: if that's true or bullshit or whatever, it kind of

1301
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, like in the eyes of the law, right

1302
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: because even if she was a total asshole and asserted

1303
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: her control over this movie and like you know, brought

1304
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: her quote unquote dragons in which, by the way, if

1305
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: you read the way that this woman texts, oh my god,

1306
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: it's it's wild. But she's talking about pebbles, talking about

1307
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: Blake Lively Blake like. But she can do all that stuff.

1308
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: She can assert control over the movie. She can swing

1309
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: her dick, she can bring in her famous friends, she

1310
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: can have her husband get involved in all this stuff. Like,

1311
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: it's not against you law exactly. The way that he

1312
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: acted probably was against the law. So okay, thank you,

1313
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: because I'm going kind of crazy being like, well, they're

1314
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: both awful, and I'm like, well, but one is. Well.

1315
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: The thing is like they I mean, I think at

1316
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: this point, especially because they keep digging in and they

1317
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: clearly want to go to trial, this is an ego

1318
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: thing and it's ugly all around. And I don't know

1319
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: necessarily where all of their careers go after this. I'm

1320
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: sure in some respect they'll kind of be fine. Yes,

1321
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: but you can say to you like he contacted his

1322
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: pr and said, you know, let's turn the narrative against

1323
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: her in such a crazy way that like we bury

1324
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: her and destroy her, and you can bring up all

1325
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: this stuff of her being a little bit of a

1326
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: jerk to these you know journalists like you know saying

1327
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: this kind of thing, like there's an old video of

1328
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 1: her talking about how she did blackface, et cetera. Like

1329
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: it's like you can unearth all of this stuff. You're

1330
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: not proving criminal, You're just not you're proving that she is.

1331
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: It's not an actress, it's not a big ego. It's

1332
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 1: not a criminal. No no. But but I guess what

1333
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like it's like a liolilitic and it's

1334
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: like I think while he may be winning the thing

1335
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: about public opinion about her, he'll probably still end up paying. Right, Well,

1336
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad it's made its way to lost culture. I loved.

1337
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: I will say the Chelsea Handler joke that I liked

1338
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: the most was like, I think we're all very but

1339
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: something she said like the yeah, we're good, We're good. Yeah.

1340
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: Because that's another thing is it's like when people are

1341
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: so hell bent on like they seem really sure that

1342
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: everyone cares. And I will say I really didn't until

1343
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: it was the only thing in entertainment news, and it's

1344
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: such a selve from all the rest of the dark

1345
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,560
Speaker 1: shit happening in the world that it's kind of just like,

1346
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: all right, let's see what's going on with this Blake

1347
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: and justin thing, and all of a sudden you're sucked in.

1348
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: But you're saying that window was closed very quick because

1349
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 2: now you don't care anymore.

1350
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: It's not even that I don't care, it's kind of

1351
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: the thing of like it's it's very well, let's see

1352
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: how this turns out, because if it goes to trial,

1353
01:11:58,320 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: of course I care.

1354
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 2: Right, how do you like bring that to bring it

1355
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: back to the fire, Like, how do you bring that

1356
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 2: level of like attention to like something that actually is.

1357
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: Well, how about the fact that they were filing these

1358
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: lawsuits while the fires were happening total just to show

1359
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: like that the focus is so on them and that

1360
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: the egos are so out of control that this is

1361
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: literally going down and those things are being fouled in

1362
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: the court of law like while everything was going down. Yeah,

1363
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: but it's so brutal, it's so sad that like that's

1364
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: the shit that takes up are totally but I mean,

1365
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: like it's kind of always been, like I know, I know.

1366
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say, is good. The fact that you

1367
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: can even make that distinction now and us on our

1368
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: platform can be like, isn't it wild how distracted we

1369
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 1: all are easily by by what is essentially bullshit, even

1370
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: if it's a big deal to them, and it's a

1371
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: big deal, you know, to some people in a real way.

1372
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: Like at least we can be able to say, like,

1373
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: we see how easily distracted the media is and like,

1374
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's all pretty silly, Like.

1375
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 2: I hate that I know that his production company is

1376
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 2: called Wayfarer now and that's just information that's in my brain.

1377
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: Ye's so close to Wayfair the furniture bran, Yeah, the

1378
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 1: furniture brand. Yeah, he should have thought it.

1379
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: Well, this this just made me think, my out, my

1380
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: loanout company has a bad name, and I'm like, I

1381
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 2: need to change it in case I ever get into

1382
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: legal shit.

1383
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: Dingo dingis dingham Dingo, dinkham Dingo Australian thing. What's yours? Oh? Your?

1384
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 2: You know, yours is great, basic inast basic instincts, so funny,

1385
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 2: so good. I like my loanout. You've got a great

1386
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: loanout dnkim Dingo. I was just like, I can't come

1387
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 2: up with anything. It's two Australian words.

1388
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 1: Put it in. I think dnkham Dingo's great.

1389
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: But if that if it was like dnkham Dingo's you know,

1390
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: like dnkham Dingo file to complaint against It's like that

1391
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 2: sounds so stupid.

1392
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: Do you want to start a production company with me? Yes?

1393
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: What should we call it? Like?

1394
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: Do we wanted to have like a serious sounding name

1395
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 2: or called twins are fighting again?

1396
01:13:55,680 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: Gemini? I'm meeting with Gemini. Entertained man.

1397
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: That apparently that's that's the Google AI name. Like we

1398
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: need to get on these names y'all because sometimes they

1399
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 2: snatch up the it's like it's like, you know, getting

1400
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 2: a handle, you get like you gotta get, you gotta

1401
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 2: snatch it up quick totally, which to be called corridor.

1402
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: Looking at your sweater. Yeah, this is a that's a

1403
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: good place to start. But what's something we both love?

1404
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 1: Mariah Kelly Gaga Mariah Kelly Gaga like it's a gay

1405
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: kids screen name and like two thousand and eight, Maria

1406
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: Kelly Wait, I've told you this is so revealing of my.

1407
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: Your your your sl screen names, Casey No, what is it?

1408
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: Ao l screen name?

1409
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: Your Ames screen name and Ames screen name was Kelly Clarkston,

1410
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: wasn't it?

1411
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? When I was little, it was M A R

1412
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: O T C K seven seven nine. And you're gonna

1413
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: scream when you find that way of for Trenise from

1414
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: season two of American Idol, number five Nember, No, she

1415
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: was number six, she was fifth place because it was Trenise.

1416
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 1: Then Kimberly Clark then number three. Stop Kimberly Locke was

1417
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: her name. I'm sorry, Kimberly, I think you've messed up

1418
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So it was Trenise.

1419
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: Then who was four Trenise? And who was fourth on

1420
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: season two of America? Oh god, no, I don't know why.

1421
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: It definitely Guy because I was like pissed because then

1422
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: it was first place was Ruben Stuttered, Second place was lock?

1423
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 1: Fourth place? I forget who that was? Yeah, but it wasn't. No,

1424
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 1: was fifth? I remember? Oh was it Josh Grayson?

1425
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 2: That's just similiar stupid? Remember remember Julia Dematto. I was

1426
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 2: waiting for Julia Demoto. Julia Donald rocked because she was

1427
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 2: like a single mom or something, and I was like,

1428
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 2: I want her to win.

1429
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: She she she was a single mom hairdresser from Long Yes,

1430
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: and she was very like the woman that I would

1431
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: go into say hi to my mom at work and

1432
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: she'd be like, oh, hey, you're so handsome. I've told

1433
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: you that my mom had really good relationships with everyone

1434
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 1: at her hair salon, including lex who first cut my

1435
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: hair into a crew cott and turned me around to

1436
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: the mirror and said, you look like a marine. And

1437
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: there was one nasty queen who my mom was in

1438
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: a feud with at work. And you're gonna die when

1439
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: I tell you who it was. Who the nail girl

1440
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: Bernadette well I don't like her. All right, Well it's

1441
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: time to wrap it up. This is I don't think so, honey,

1442
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: And this is where we take sixty seconds to talk

1443
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: about something in culture that has messed us up. And

1444
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm ready.

1445
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 2: This is Matt Rogers, I don't think so, honey. As

1446
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 2: time starts now.

1447
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. The nail girl Bernadette, who

1448
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,839
Speaker 1: years ago did not invite my mother to her wedding.

1449
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: They worked in the same salon, Exstasia in Lyndenhurst, New York.

1450
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 1: It was a community driven place where women came to

1451
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: get gorgeous. And so with these vibes over at the

1452
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: nail station, Bernadette is being a gatekeeper at her wedding.

1453
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: She invited everyone, including the girls who were essentially interns

1454
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 1: there who just swept up the hair, to her wedding

1455
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: in the late nineties, and not my mother. Can you

1456
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 1: imagine not inviting Katrina to a party? What the fuck

1457
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: do you have against my mother, Trina? Bernadette, let me

1458
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: tell you something. I better not catch you out here

1459
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: in whatever streets and you come up, Matthew, it's so

1460
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: excited to see you so successful. I'm Bernadette I used

1461
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: to work with your mother. I will end you five

1462
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: seconds wherever you're at. Let's go, Bernadette. You didn't invite

1463
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,839
Speaker 1: my mother to your your wedding. That was problem.

1464
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: That's one minute and fucking Bernadette. I'm sorry. We love that.

1465
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 2: We love every nail technician, but compared to Katrina, you're

1466
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: sitting down most of the day.

1467
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: No, she was nothing. Katrina is on her feet. People

1468
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: are not going to Extasia and Lindenhurst for the This

1469
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: is no disrespect to all the nail texts out there,

1470
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:23,799
Speaker 1: but this is a hair salon.

1471
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 2: So know your place and know your role. Show some

1472
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 2: respect to Katrina clarities.

1473
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: Just understand your legacies is not that you're I don't

1474
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: even know if you're still married, but either way, if

1475
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: you are, even if it's a successful marriage in terms

1476
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: of lost coach metrics, your legacy is that you fucked

1477
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: up in the late nineties and didn't invite Katrina to

1478
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: your wedding and I heard about it at home.

1479
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: The legacy is I'm forgetting your ass. As soon as

1480
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 2: this episode is done.

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01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 1: He will, I won't.

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01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 2: I wish you all the best in life, Bernadette. I

1483
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 2: will not filed you away in any drawer in my brain,

1484
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 2: that's gonna be Bowenyang only. I don't wish you well,

1485
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: and I'll remember you, I clearly do. I was a young, young,

1486
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 2: a gay kid, and you don't.

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01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: Cross our mothers here. First of all, your wedding is

1488
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: probably way boring because my mom absolutely tears it up

1489
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: to love shack, tears it up to all the wedding songs,

1490
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: never too much, never too much, never too much.

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01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 2: Love shack is yeah, that's up there to say nothing

1492
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 2: of shouts.

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01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: Zalea Banks had a point the other day when she

1494
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: tweeted she wants to see Sam Smith sing never too

1495
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 1: Much by Luther, and then her fans were started dragging

1496
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 1: her like fuck you Sam Smith, and she was like, no, no, no,

1497
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: you don't understand Sam Smith can like sings like.

1498
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 2: No Sam Smith can do called him white Luther, all right,

1499
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,480
Speaker 2: And that's our Azalea Banks mention of the episode.

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01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: And this is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey.

1501
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: You ready, yep? His time starts now, I don't think so, honey.

1502
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 2: Microsoft teams, is it a browser experience?

1503
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: Do I have to downe on the app?

1504
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 2: It's not clear based on the call to actions based

1505
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: on the button, and and when I get there, the

1506
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 2: view is paginated. I have to click an error to

1507
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 2: go see the other eight people on the meeting. And

1508
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 2: then if I mute a pop up, a persistent pop up,

1509
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 2: no matter how many times you x out of it,

1510
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 2: pops up and says you're muted.

1511
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: You're muted, bitch.

1512
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 2: I know I'll press space bar when I have to

1513
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 2: speak out of respect for the thirty other people on

1514
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 2: this call.

1515
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: What is the deal Microsoft Teams. I don't want to

1516
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 1: buy into the office suite anymore. Google Drive got your ass,

1517
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: and we're all using docs and sheets and pages. We're

1518
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: not doing the powerpoints in the year twenty twenty five.

1519
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why we're still tethered to teams. I

1520
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 1: don't know why Bill Gates is an interview magazine at

1521
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 1: this point. Why do we give it these people our time,

1522
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,719
Speaker 1: our effort, our energy. I have to spend five minutes

1523
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: after the meeting starts to figure out how the fuck

1524
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: to log on, and that's one minute. Everyone out there,

1525
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: Microsoft Team doesn't work for us. And I have all

1526
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: the sympathy in the world for the people who work

1527
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: at companies where they are forced to use Microsoft teams

1528
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: because of whatever contracts they have. But you must fight

1529
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: and use your power as employees to switch to Zoom.

1530
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: Just do it.

1531
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: It's the standard, not the industry standard, it's the world standard.

1532
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: The quality is so much worse on teams. What's the

1533
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: redeeming thing? I don't know. I ruined my day this morning.

1534
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't know a worse platform. I don't know platform. Now.

1535
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: We're not fans of team, We're not fans of teams.

1536
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: There's also so much business to get into it. It's

1537
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: business to get into it. I can't see a full

1538
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: list of the of like a full populated list of

1539
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: like people like I don't know. The grid view is

1540
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: like different. It's three by five in the first three rows,

1541
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 1: then it's two by seven and then second it's like,

1542
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: this is the kind of thing that's really gonna piss

1543
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 1: BO off. No. I need I need to see everyone

1544
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 1: needs to have the same hierarchy on a Zoom or

1545
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: on a video conference, like totally agree, do you really agree? No? Yes?

1546
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 1: And I want to say we loved everyone on no

1547
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 1: no when it was a great call, great call. We

1548
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 1: would have loved to see you all shine equally, all

1549
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: shine equally. Yeah, that's the thing.

1550
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 2: The grid just kept moving like the resizing, and people

1551
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: have bigger faces than others, and I was like, this

1552
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:22,480
Speaker 2: is intolerable.

1553
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you something. The Hollywood Squares it

1554
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: was not. No.

1555
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,560
Speaker 2: I just want I want pauland and Whoopi Goldberg and

1556
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: Center Square.

1557
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: I just want to know exactly where someone is sitting

1558
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: in the Hollywood Square. I want all my zoom calls

1559
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: and like online meetings to be like Hollywood Squares. Like

1560
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: I know that deb from Accounting is the top left square.

1561
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: I know that you and I would have torn up

1562
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: it's back. What yes, it's It's like it's like fully

1563
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: a show. The other day it was on. It was

1564
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: Margaret show was on it. We need to get booked.

1565
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore. I think Drew Barrymore a Center Square that's iconic.

1566
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: The cast was not chumps. I'll tell you that we

1567
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: want to do. In fact, someone sent me a picture

1568
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: of it and was like, why aren't you on this show?

1569
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: Which I usually think if.

1570
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 2: It was a little bit of a drag, right, but

1571
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: but I want the Hollywood Scores is so aspiration, it's iconic.

1572
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 1: So we're available for Hollywood Squares. I want to say

1573
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 1: one thing before we go okay, and I feel like

1574
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: it's sad that I even have to do this, but

1575
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,919
Speaker 1: I'm now begging. So Epic Universe is now finished, as completed,

1576
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: it's being handed over to park operations. I have not

1577
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: heard from anyone at NBC Universal or you know, the parks.

1578
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: I haven't heard from anyone from Orlando with an invitation.

1579
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: And I don't know what else I can say other

1580
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: than you want us there, trust us talking about this,

1581
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: Trust us like, please invite us please, and also everyone

1582
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,799
Speaker 1: on the ground bts. The information has also been lacking.

1583
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: I've not been getting the leaks that I wanted, Like

1584
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: if you are on the grounds in Epic Universe and

1585
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: you can give me leaks you need to be getting

1586
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 1: in my d ms. I'm very good about discreetly sharing information.

1587
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not feeling it. You can see we

1588
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: went black. We went we went dark. Look at that.

1589
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 1: We went dark. Our backdrop went out because of because

1590
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: of the severity of the situation. This is a very

1591
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: serious situation and we need we need to be reached out.

1592
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: So we need to be collaborated with on this or

1593
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to be upset. This sucks. See what's happening Microft,

1594
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: Microsoft teams? Oh no, it's damn smart TV. All right, well,

1595
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: we gotta go, We gotta go. All right, Epic Epic

1596
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 1: Universe reach out. I'm hearing that they're giving an engineer

1597
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,719
Speaker 1: walkthrough in March. How are you hearing that someone reached

1598
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: out to me and I said, you need to reach

1599
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: out to Matt Rogers. No, Matt, sit down? What Matt? No?

1600
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: I now you're making me feel bad for sharing information

1601
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: with you because it didn't come up and it this

1602
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: person messaged me yesterday, dot me read it, Yes, and

1603
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: they might get in trouble. But see, if you message me,

1604
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: I would have put this out on the low. Okay,

1605
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: all right, no, no, no, don't get them in trouble.

1606
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: But like, no, I'm just I just want to read

1607
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: what the scuttle butt is. Okay, tell us the scuttle

1608
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: But I can't care this.

1609
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 2: Oh here it is team members. Preview dates have dropped.

1610
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 2: That's all I've received what.

1611
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: We we In the words of Diana Ross reach out,

1612
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: no one will do a better job than us at

1613
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 1: drumming up excitement. People need to hear about this and

1614
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: they're only going to hear about it all laws Coult.

1615
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: We have a huge platform and we will use it well.

1616
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: Speaking of hearing, we end never episode with the song

1617
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: I just want you to have this is reading? Yes,

1618
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: what does it look like? Bye? Bye? Last Culture is

1619
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: just is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players

1620
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio podcasts. Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and

1621
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: Bowen Yang, Executive produced by Ada Hasnier, then

1622
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 2: Produced by Beck Ramos, edited and mixed by Doug Bammniko

1623
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 2: Board and our music is by Henry Komerski