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Speaker 1: pick them all we want, Like this guy is good

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Speaker 1: at Jalen Hurts. I saw Jalen Hurts dominated Oklahoma in

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Speaker 1: but the competition was a little different. Canny pick it Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm just not into weak arm guys. And

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, this guy can't hold a campable Mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: Like why don't even like Mac Jones? So I don't

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Speaker 1: like Matt should mac Jones even go in the first round?

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Speaker 1: And let's face it, if you put mac Jones and

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Speaker 1: all started rookie quarterbacks, it would have been really really ugly.

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Speaker 1: He went to a place with a great defense and

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Speaker 1: an unreal running game and I don't know, the greatest

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Speaker 1: head coach in the history of the league. And Malik

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Speaker 1: willis like likable guy. We all saw the video that

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Speaker 1: It's cool. I like, I want my quarterbacks. That's the baseline.

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Speaker 1: Like part of being a quarterback is being a high

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Speaker 1: I watched some play all miss, I watched some highlights.

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Speaker 1: Like he's just a very, very raw product. Again, I

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Speaker 1: would have no problem taking a raw product. Pick seventy

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Speaker 1: eight could not take this guy in the first round.

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Speaker 1: So if you're telling me all three of these guys

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Speaker 1: this is where we get bus right. Part of last

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Speaker 1: year was like Trevor Lawrence, no brainer, justin fields going

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Speaker 1: in every first round. Trey Lance is just his physical attributes,

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Speaker 1: how productive he was, even if it was one year

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Speaker 1: in college like Blake Willis wasn't even that productive and

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Speaker 1: he just needs a lot of work, which is fine.

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Speaker 1: That's part of drafting guys in the third and fourth round.

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Speaker 1: When you take a guy in the first round, anything

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Speaker 1: less than being like a decade long starter is a problem.

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Speaker 1: So I don't like this quarterback draft at all. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't even love Obviously, there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: pass rushers, but let's not act like there's no Joey

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Speaker 1: or Nick Bosa. There's no clil Mac. Like the chances

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Speaker 1: that Cabon Thibodeau is as good as Clowney is probably

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Speaker 1: slim the nun like Ultimately Clowney's an underachiever, but he's

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Speaker 1: he's had a pretty productive career. You know he's gonna

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Speaker 1: have a decade long career. Now Cavon might too, but

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Speaker 1: is he gonna be that as good as him? Aidan

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Speaker 1: Hudson said, like who is he? I don't know. So

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just you're gonna be very very critical

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Speaker 1: at the top of this draft because all these guys

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Speaker 1: are flawed. You know, even Kyle Hamilton's, like I said,

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Speaker 1: didn't run quite as fast. You'd like to take a

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Speaker 1: safety number three overall, um, you know, the last several years,

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Speaker 1: like Jamaar Chases, you know those tad guys, the Julio

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Speaker 1: they're just not in this draft. Now. There are really

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Speaker 1: good players in this draft, but it's it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really really fascinating over the next several weeks. A lot

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Speaker 1: of good guys, which is good now I think the

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Speaker 1: younger generation good people like this draft feels like there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of high character guys. How many like impact

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Speaker 1: all pros? Obviously the only time will tell. But going

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Speaker 1: into this draft, I don't know how many we view

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Speaker 1: in like the top ten or like can't miss all pros.

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Speaker 1: But what's fun about the draft? In a couple of

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Speaker 1: years we might all look I might look at an idiot.

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Speaker 1: If Desmond Ritter and Malik Willis are sweet and a

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Speaker 1: Hudson leads the league in sacks with a team would

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Speaker 1: be like middle coff. You don't even know what you're doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why I hosts a podcast. You know why. What's

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Speaker 1: why I'm a podcaster successful one. You know, businesses a moment. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's why my buddies are in the league.

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Speaker 1: They're thriving friends with Super Bowl rings. I just I

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Speaker 1: just want a lot of downloads. That's all I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for here. But this is just my opinions. It's just

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Speaker 1: my opinions. I watch a lot of college football, don't

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Speaker 1: have a bunch of life in the fall, watch a

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Speaker 1: lot of these guys play and got George Davis. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, the chances that Hutchinson and Cavon.

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Speaker 1: If I had to bet on a guy, here's here's

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Speaker 1: the take. If I had to bet on Hutchinson, cavan

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Speaker 1: or Jordan Davis next decade, I'll bet on Jordan Davis.

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Speaker 1: How about that. I'll take Jordan Davis. I'll take the

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Speaker 1: three and forty pound guy that can run a four eight,

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Speaker 1: that dominated in college his entire career at the highest

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Speaker 1: level against the best competition, and who's got a ceiling

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Speaker 1: as high as the sky. With that being said, talk

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Speaker 1: to you guys tomorrow. I hopefull you guys had a

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Speaker 1: good weekend, and uh it's a fun time of year.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of moving parts, the draft, free agency. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, if we're not gonna have games, at least

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