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Speaker 2: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 1: What is up straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 1: Straight Fire for Friday, January nineteenth, Big Big Football Weekend

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Speaker 1: is here, Divisional playoff weekend. Eight teams left, only seven

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Speaker 1: NFL games left on the slate. And to usher that

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Speaker 1: schedule in, we have Doug Kazarian, former ESPN gambling guy.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of started his own deal. He's had a

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Speaker 1: lot of success on the on the gambling contests, placed

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Speaker 1: I believe in top fifty in both contests. He posted

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Speaker 1: about it on his Instagram. Congrats to Doug. We break

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Speaker 1: down all the games and talk about, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: the life of a pro gambler. He's not technically a

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Speaker 1: pro gambler since he's taking money. It's an interesting discussion.

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Speaker 1: I think you like it. Of course, we are mostly

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Speaker 1: on the same sides for the games, especially the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City one. Before we get to that couple of items

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Speaker 1: little house cleaning to take care of here. I initially

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Speaker 1: was not going to respond, but Rob's like, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: need to respond. As some of you may have seen.

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Speaker 2: Cam Newton, you know, he waited.

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Speaker 1: Layane in the cut did not reply initially when I

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Speaker 1: put out I don't know, a month ago, did Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott had a better career than Cam? Not a not

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Speaker 1: just the facts, like look at the numbers, look at

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Speaker 1: the consistency of Dak, look at the passing struggles of Cam. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know he's a dual, right guy at any rate.

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Speaker 1: The Herd put the video out when I hosted I

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Speaker 1: don't know, a month month ago, maybe maybe more six weeks,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, And at the time people were an

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Speaker 1: op robert nothing from Cam Newton, which is fine. So

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Speaker 1: Cam waited. He called Dak a game manager. He called

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Speaker 1: TUA game manager Jared Goff and Brock Purdy, and two

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Speaker 1: MVP voting. I'm pretty sure Perdy and Dak. Maybe Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen sneaks in ahead. But essentially I pushed back on

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Speaker 1: Cam and I was like, dude, what are you talking about? Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you won an MVP, Yeah you went to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I mean you never had back to back winning seasons.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I listen, it was rooted in fact.

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Speaker 1: This is not like straight up opinion. I know everybody

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Speaker 1: Newton fan. He's a Cuban eyghlight reel. And then you

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Speaker 1: sometimes the numbers lie. I don't think they lie here.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see if Cam gets into the

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Speaker 1: so Dak struggled against the Packers, another playoff letdown pick

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Speaker 1: six early interception by Jerry Alexander. They lose and Cam

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Speaker 1: comes out, I got the receipts, Jay, don't try to

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Speaker 1: don't know where he got I don't know who's helping

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Speaker 1: him with research at any rate. The funniest part is, like,

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Speaker 1: this was totally different in terms of you know, who's

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Speaker 1: you got complex sports, no tag a couple something called

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Speaker 1: baller Alert which has like eight million followers. Bro, how

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do a post talk about me, talk

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Speaker 1: about Cam the pods blah blah blah, and not even

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a little disrespectful. Frankly, At any rate,

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Speaker 1: more good years left in the league. Okay, these three

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Speaker 1: one of the topics that I had sent to the

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Speaker 1: thing is Mahomes's cap hit is thirty seven mil this year.

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Speaker 1: Hurts Like, It's really fascinating to look at the team

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Speaker 1: build up, especially around the quarterback. And now, without further ado,

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Speaker 1: let's get to our NFL Divisional wild card guest Doug Kazarian.

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Speaker 2: You know a guy, Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 2: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports fans.

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Speaker 3: Want, but for everything he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: He knows a guy who does. Let's just say I

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Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into straight Fire, a first time

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Speaker 1: lives in Vegas. Just did well in the season long

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Speaker 1: Circa Millions contest. Doug Kazarian, Doug, how are you, mom?

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Speaker 2: It's good to connect. I know we talked about having

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Speaker 2: my end, but I'm doing well. I'm doing well situated

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Speaker 2: here in Vegas. It has been about wow, three and

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm really happy all that good stuff, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I can barely handle like a three day weekend

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Speaker 1: in Vegas. You're doing a decade. Wow, that's impressive. We've

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Speaker 1: had ESPN guys on fort and Ball's been on Preston

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Speaker 1: Johnson a bunch of times. But you bring like a

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Doug, if somebody says you're a professional gambler, Like,

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Speaker 1: how do you react to that?

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Speaker 2: So it's funny and my Buddy and I were talking

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Speaker 2: about this. Technically, I think you can only be a

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Speaker 2: or let's say ninety percent of your income comes from betting.

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Speaker 2: I think it's hard to say I do this, but

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Speaker 2: then I'm also like, I get a big paycheck from

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Speaker 2: somewhere else. Like the true professional betters I know, and

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Speaker 2: most of the ones are off the grid.

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Speaker 3: Their only source of income is betting.

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Speaker 2: Now, once legalization happened, you saw some qualified, legitimate pro betters,

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Speaker 2: hasn't been a baseball game in twelve years, and he

431
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Speaker 2: only bets college about that. You just can't do it all, right,

432
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Speaker 2: especially because the TV executive is now stage every game,

433
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Speaker 2: so it's a full day. I mean, every holiday is

434
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Speaker 2: now a betting holiday, so Christmas, Thanksgiving, everything is like

435
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Speaker 2: it's just these games are separated all throughout the day

436
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Speaker 2: and there's no break. So yes, it does become taxing

437
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Speaker 2: from a in game betting standpoint, gotcha there. And there's

438
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Speaker 2: also so many people in the space now right, There's

439
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Speaker 2: so many experts of every field that you have to

440
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Speaker 2: sort of combine talents, Like I have people I really

441
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Speaker 2: rely on for golf because I like golf action. I

442
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Speaker 2: can't hate acaps. So I have a guys that I

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Speaker 2: consult and I don't even say partner that they just

444
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Speaker 2: share information. I mean, if I hit one of their things,

445
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Speaker 2: I'll throw them, you know, throw them some money or whatever,

446
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Speaker 2: but I want I want their two hundred and one

447
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Speaker 2: or they're eighty to one or thirty to one, you know,

448
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Speaker 2: for the weekend. So I got a little rooting interest,

449
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Speaker 2: and they've already played it. So they tell me what

450
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Speaker 2: they play, and if I can get something similar, I'll

451
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Speaker 2: play it and obviously take them out to dinner or whatever,

452
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Speaker 2: thank them or give them a shout out on air

453
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Speaker 2: or whatever, and then I'll do the same for them.

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Speaker 2: Right if I have an MBA situation or something like

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Speaker 2: that that lines up that I want to.

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Speaker 3: Share with people.

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Speaker 2: So there's a I don't want to say honor amongst these,

458
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Speaker 2: but there's definitely like some shared information because you guys

459
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Speaker 2: are all in it together, but you're also competing against

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Speaker 2: one another in a lot of ways. So there's some

461
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Speaker 2: stuff you have to take care of yourself first, but

462
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Speaker 2: everyone can eat in a lot of ways amongst your

463
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Speaker 2: peers or amongst your circle. I think the inner circle

464
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Speaker 2: is the key, and that's what I've tried to share

465
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Speaker 2: on air throughout my last handful of years of ESPN,

466
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Speaker 2: and even now is my inner circle sort of works,

467
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Speaker 2: and I try to aggregate from that, and I appreciate

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Speaker 2: the efforts of everyone involved, and I try to return

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Speaker 2: as much as I can.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to NFL games this week. First

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Speaker 1: of all, did you bet any of the openers or

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Speaker 1: what was the first game you bet this weekend? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a total first half, any prop whatever?

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Speaker 2: Right, the only position I have right now I was

475
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Speaker 2: Ravens minus nine and minus nine and a half. It's

476
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Speaker 2: by far my favorite play for this four game slate.

477
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Speaker 2: I'm I think it's and I love seeing things after

478
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Speaker 2: the fact, but I love seeing that the publics on

479
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Speaker 2: the Texans and it. I just think people are overreacting

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Speaker 2: to two things. One is the last time of the

481
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Speaker 2: Ravens were the one seed when Lamar was the MVP.

482
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Speaker 2: First of all, he was twenty two that season, just

483
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Speaker 2: turned twenty three in early January, so like days before

484
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Speaker 2: they lost.

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Speaker 3: It was his second year in the NFL.

486
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Speaker 2: It's insane, right, this is a completely different guy and

487
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: this is a completely different team. And that game against

488
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 2: Tennessee was weird. They had two fourth down stops. Now

489
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: he had a couple of picks and there was a fumble.

490
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Speaker 2: I get it. But he's so much more polished now

491
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: than that year. On top of that, this is the

492
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Speaker 2: best set of weapons he's ever had from a receiving standpoint. Now,

493
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: I know Andrews is just coming back, but it was

494
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 2: like all about the running, rushing attack, his just cheat

495
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Speaker 2: code being how awesome he is, but he didn't have

496
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Speaker 2: this kind of like diversity from his receiving standpoints. And

497
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Speaker 2: I just think the team as a whole is better

498
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Speaker 2: than that year. They were dominant because it was a

499
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Speaker 2: shock to the system what he was doing and how

500
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Speaker 2: different it was than what opposing defenses were seeing. Now

501
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: a lot of people see mobile quarterbacks and things like that.

502
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: I just think that offense is special and they don't

503
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Speaker 2: get conservative with the lead. They step on their throat.

504
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: They'll press, Like even against the Niners, they kept scoring

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Speaker 2: on that Monday and night game. So that's the number

506
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Speaker 2: one thing. And the other thing is just everyone talks

507
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Speaker 2: about these stats and all the you know, teams don't

508
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Speaker 2: cover these spreads after a bye week, and they're if

509
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Speaker 2: you look at just the last five years, the teams

510
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Speaker 2: that had to buy or the one seeds that ended

511
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Speaker 2: up not covering it was like Mahomes had a hurt

512
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Speaker 2: ankle or he got substituted out for Chad Henny because

513
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Speaker 2: he had a concussion or something like that. Or the

514
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Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans, who were a farce of a one seed.

515
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Speaker 2: They weren't even like really big favorites, right. So, and

516
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: then there was one year where I think the Saints

517
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Speaker 2: didn't cover against the Eagles, and that was totally legit.

518
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Speaker 2: They only won by six, and that was a good

519
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Speaker 2: cover by the dog. But besides that, like the year

520
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Speaker 2: the Eagles were the one seed, but that was the

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Speaker 2: one seed because they've had Wentz and then Foles was

522
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Speaker 2: the quarterback. Like they ended up being home hunderdogs in

523
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Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game anyway, So a lot of the

524
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Speaker 2: times they otherwise we've seen teams just get trucked. Like

525
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Speaker 2: these teams that win the first week look pretty good.

526
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Speaker 2: But why did Houston win? They have a dynamic quarterback.

527
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Speaker 2: They were at home and they were playing a Cleveland

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Speaker 2: team that had a quarterback that was on a couch

529
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Speaker 2: a month ago, right, Like there wasn't really a true

530
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Speaker 2: playoff team, like they've got wins. The Browns did like

531
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Speaker 2: with their defense, and then they beat like the Jets

532
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Speaker 2: at home. No offense to your Jets, but like they

533
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Speaker 2: beat the Jets at home on a Thursday night, everyone's celebrating.

534
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Speaker 2: This wasn't like a U or not out of a

535
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: wild card team or whatever, like, like, they weren't that good.

536
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Speaker 2: And even Flacco give him all the credit in the world.

537
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Speaker 2: It played well and they got but.

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Speaker 3: He was still throwing interceptions and these. It was.

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Speaker 2: They just won games that they were much that they

540
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Speaker 2: figured out a way to win down the stretch. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Houston is good and Stroud's gonna be great.

542
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Speaker 2: I love where they're headed, but this is a different ass.

543
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Speaker 2: They're going on the road. Baltimore is a juggernaut. They're

544
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Speaker 2: probably the best team in the league. I like laying

545
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Speaker 2: the points, and you have a great kicker and Tucker.

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Speaker 2: If you need that two score lead, I think I

547
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Speaker 2: think they're gonna cover pretty pretty easily.

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Speaker 1: So why why if you bet this quickly? Why not

549
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Speaker 1: the same vibe on the Niners against Jordan love Well.

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Speaker 2: I think the Packers are much different team the second half, right,

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Speaker 2: So this Packers version, We've seen teams over the years

552
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Speaker 2: get hot. You know, the Giants who won the Super

553
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Speaker 2: Bowl and beat the eighteen and oh Patriots. Like we've

554
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Speaker 2: seen teams make runs. For example, we've only had the

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Speaker 2: one seed versus one seed in the Super Bowl four

556
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Speaker 2: times in the last eleven years, fourteen times in the

557
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Speaker 2: last like forty five years or something ridiculous. So we

558
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: do see upsets of these one seeds. And I like

559
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Speaker 2: the Niners a lot, and I do think they come

560
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Speaker 2: out of the NFC, but covering nine and a half,

561
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Speaker 2: like when perties had to play down the trailing, it's

562
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: not been that pretty. Like Week two, I had him

563
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Speaker 2: laying points against the Rams and it was tied late

564
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Speaker 2: third quarter. And now that's unfair to cherry pick a

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Speaker 2: Week two game that was probably like his worst game, frankly,

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Speaker 2: except for the Ravens game.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, he's been great and I think they cover.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if this Packers team is just

569
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Speaker 2: like that much better than they were the first half

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Speaker 2: of the year.

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Speaker 3: Love and all this stuff. He's looked great the back

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Speaker 3: half of the year.

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Speaker 2: I mean Aaron Jones, like, you know, he turned back

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Speaker 2: the clock last week. Now, I don't think they'll gash

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Speaker 2: San fran like they gashed Dallas. But this Packers team

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Speaker 2: I think is way more reliable or excuse me, their

577
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Speaker 2: ceiling I think is higher. I think they have more

578
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Speaker 2: weapons than this Houston team that obviously has out, but

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Speaker 2: they've lost tank down. I mean, they have some weapons,

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Speaker 2: but I think their defense could get really torched as well,

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Speaker 2: and I think the Packers defense could too. But I

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Speaker 2: just think the gap is strong as wider with the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: and he just in that it is.

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Speaker 3: In the NFC.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier that the public like the Texans A

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Speaker 2: It as a arbiter of my bet. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 2: fine with it. Like they win, you know about fifty

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Speaker 2: raised a good point about the number having stuff baked in,

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Speaker 2: yes and no. So odds makers hate anything that's like

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Speaker 2: a variable. So what they want is both teams at

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Speaker 2: And I think people need to realize this the betting

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Speaker 2: and black and then there's two greens, right, if you

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Speaker 2: bet red, you're getting paid fifty to fifty one to

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Speaker 2: one on that. But the house has the black and

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Speaker 2: then the two extra greens. That sliver that they have

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Speaker 2: is the edge. That's I know the math doesn't quite

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Speaker 2: match up, but that's like the equivalent of minus one

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Speaker 2: ten right there. You're laying odds and you're only gonna win,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're that's the edges that the books have.

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Speaker 2: So they want a they want a true point spread,

646
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Speaker 2: and they'll just collect over time. They'll let you bet

647
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: as much as you want over time, and so if

648
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: the public wins, they don't care because the public is

649
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: just gonna bet another spin of the roulette wheel where

650
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: they have the edge whatever color, plus the two greens.

651
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: So to your point about it's baked in, and think

652
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: it's baked in, but you may think it has a

653
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: bigger advantage than the market, right like the moving parts

654
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: in this case, the injuries to the buffalo or the

655
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: extra rest that Kansas City has, Like it's not like

656
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: you know that and the odds makers don't or the

657
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: betting market doesn't. But the betting market may not reflect

658
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: it as much as you prioritize it. Not that you

659
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: have a model, but your imaginary model of columns or whatever,

660
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: you're putting a higher weight on that than maybe the

661
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: market does. And that's where all these math model lers

662
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: you bet against one another, that's where they differ. They

663
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: prioritize like an O line injury or whatever. So just

664
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: in your head, you're prioritizing that. For me, I'm prioritizing Mahomes.

665
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: I don't think people realize how much of a difference

666
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: maker he is, Like we know he's the face of

667
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: the NFL and all that, But I mean I did

668
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: a story when Belichick, excuse me, when Brady left New

669
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: England that Brady and Belichick was the best head coach

670
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: quarterback combo in the history of sports betting. Now, Walsh

671
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: and Montana had a slightly better ATS cover percentage, but

672
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: the market was nowhere near as tight then in the

673
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: eighties and nineties as it was now. And I had

674
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: quotes for math modelers Light Preston, who said, look, I

675
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: adjusted my numbers as much as possible.

676
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: I still cannot.

677
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: Figure out how to properly adjust for Belichick. He was

678
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: doing things that we, as prognosticators and predictive modeling could

679
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: not figure out he was just that good. Now, that's

680
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: because he would make teams play left handed stuff like

681
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: previous stats were not really actionable moving forward for Belichick

682
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: because he would just think of different ways to beat

683
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: the next opponent. And I think Mahomes is kind of

684
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: like that. He's just a difference maker. When he's an underdog,

685
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: he's crazy against the spread. When he's favored by three

686
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: or less, he's ridiculous. So I just think now they

687
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: may cover, of course, but I think it's silly to

688
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: bet on Buffalo when these when these points spreads are involved, Like,

689
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: there's just got to be better things to do, even

690
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: on Sunday, whether it be a college basketball game or

691
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: an NBA game, Like I think it's still I think

692
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: I think you can take plus three with with Casey.

693
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that it gets back to three D because

694
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: it's flirted with three a little bit all weak and

695
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: maybe I'll just wait for end game or something like that.

696
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: I just don't think there's I just don't think you're

697
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: gonna win long term betting against Mahomes, laying points even

698
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: at home and things like that. To your pointed, the

699
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: rest edge and the injury edge is there, with Kansas City.

700
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now you mentioned trends. We don't do a

701
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 1: ton of them on here. Obviously you could throw them

702
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: out there. But I do know, I because I hear

703
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: from people. I mean, I don't like watch or listen

704
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: to some of these other guys, but it seems like

705
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: other gambling people are pushing trends like you are exclusively

706
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: betting trends. And I don't know, Doug, that just feels

707
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 1: really dangerous. I'm not trying to call anybody out. I

708
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: just know when people say, hey, did you see that

709
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: this guy is twelve and two against the spread? Blah blah,

710
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you know how tiny of a sample

711
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: size that is? Like? What? That's so irreltic? The whole

712
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: space coaches all this. I don't know, Doug. I don't

713
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: want to go off, but the whole.

714
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: Space is dangerous. The whole space is reckless.

715
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: I don't think networks in general fully understand like the

716
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: domino effect of something like when they put out a trend,

717
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: like I think in their vacuum, I think they're being fair,

718
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: and so much of the betting public is like one

719
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: dollar parlace trying to make like eight thousand on the

720
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: nine leg So I think there's a lot of like

721
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: the lottery ticket component, and I think that creates that

722
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: it's fun content and all that stuff. And I think

723
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: that's why the trends and all that. I think they're

724
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: approaching it and executives and things like that. I look,

725
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: I used to work at a network, right, Like, I

726
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: know that they know they don't think they're like screaming

727
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: at the TV with a nine hundred number and doing this.

728
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 3: They're not.

729
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: But and there are people out there and and this

730
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: is not indictment on the networks. It's just there are

731
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: people in anywhere that are just gonna like take information

732
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: like let's just say it's Fox or ESPN or whatever.

733
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, a person on TV said this, I'm

734
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: gonna tail them. But like it's a it's a it's

735
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: an area that if you're fifty seven percent, fifty eight

736
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: percent success rate, you're awesome, So you're gonna.

737
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: Be wrong forty two percent.

738
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that's a really hard thing for people

739
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 2: who have not met for a long time to wrap

740
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: their head around and to understand where's just how small

741
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: the margins are and you know, like you know you

742
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 2: can have a good run in a contest, but that's

743
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: not repeatable. So I just think the whole space is reckless,

744
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: right because we talked about pro betters aren't even in this.

745
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, I don't want to be

746
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: too extreme, but it's almost like it's a bunch of

747
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: flag football players talking about like breaking down NFL games

748
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: and not former nflers. Right, it's a bunch of people

749
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: who like football. You know that's the parallel here, right people.

750
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: Oh well, wait, hold on, some of the NF former

751
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: NFL players. You've been around a lot of ESPN. I'm

752
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: around a lot of Fox. Those are the last guys

753
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm asking for their thoughts on a game now, right, Right.

754
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: I do love Doug asking them, Hey, you know this coach, Well,

755
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: tell me how he matches up well against da da

756
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: Da Da da. And a couple of times I'm not

757
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: gonna name anybody, but it's like, listen, this quarterback cannot

758
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: pass against zone at all, and then you can go

759
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: find to the stats and back that up and they're

760
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna throw zone at him and it's gonna be a

761
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: shit show. And like, yeah, that's the kind of small edge.

762
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't say to like you know, Joe Bob

763
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: hey Man, who you got this weekend in Lions Bucks? Like,

764
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: there's no value there. I don't care if that guy

765
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: played fifteen years in the league.

766
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: You know.

767
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: I was trying to make the parallel that like, if

768
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: there are no pro betters in the bending vertical, then

769
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: that's like having no NFL players former NFL players in

770
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: the NFL vertical and you have a bunch like adul

771
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: league fag football player, right, Like that's really what it

772
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: is talking because right now you have like anchors and

773
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: stuff like that given out their picks for the weekend.

774
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: Who and they're not promising wins or they're not doing

775
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: anything destructive anything or intentionally intentionally. But it's really just

776
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 2: a very free flowing casual space. And that's fine because

777
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: that's clearly what the public is. I don't think the public.

778
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: And this is where I'm trying to go with my

779
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: pl you know, my new venture. And I could be

780
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: in the wrong, and probably I am, just given what

781
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: the masses are. But I'm trying to go like four

782
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: and two on an NFL Sunday or right three and one,

783
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: things like that, whereas others are trying to do all

784
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 2: these props and here's picks on every.

785
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: Game game game parlay none.

786
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: Right, And the masses may want that and I and

787
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 2: there may be no demand for what I'm doing.

788
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: That's fine, but that's not what I do.

789
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 2: I only do this and this is what I'm betting,

790
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: and this is what my inner circle does. And you know,

791
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm laying like the National Champions of getting I did

792
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: a video on our homepage. It said, I'm not betting it,

793
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't think that's going to really move.

794
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: The needle for your audience.

795
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: But now, eventually I got in a text that like, hey,

796
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: all the sharp groups are come on Michigan. It was

797
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: an hour before kickoff and things like that, so I

798
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: tweeted it. I shared that information as much as best

799
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: as I can. And you know, we're like trying to

800
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: do an app, and we're not trying to We have

801
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: an app. We're just fine tuning it right now. But

802
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: like that's like sort of the problem with this is

803
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: most people aren't like hammering games and doing stuff like

804
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: I'm betting a lot things like that.

805
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to do same game parlays. I don't

806
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: think I've ever.

807
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 2: Done one now I've done a couple of I've done

808
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: some prop parlays and things like that when I've traveled

809
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: because DraftKings and Fando aren't allowed in Nevada right now,

810
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: so that's where I live, and obviously I can't do

811
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 2: them on a daily basis. But it's just different sort

812
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: of appetites for the consumer. But I do think you're right,

813
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: Like there is like the trends I like to I

814
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: do trend stuff on my show and I break it down.

815
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 2: I said, Hey, I was like, does this trend make sense?

816
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: And like, you know, we you know, we call it

817
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: tailor bail, So like I'm basically bailing on it because

818
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: here's why it doesn't make sense. But I do think

819
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: there are some that are actionable. And that's what I

820
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: think is a fun segment to dissect, is does this

821
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: make sense? Like the Lions are awesome this year off

822
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: a loss going back to last season, I think they've

823
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: won covered like eight straight, and to me, like that

824
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: made sense.

825
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: Like they're a young team.

826
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: It's hard to win and keep that sustained success right,

827
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: Like there's a maturity that comes with playing and being

828
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 2: one of the better teams. It's just hard, Like human

829
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: nature to relax a little bit, but off a loss,

830
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: like they have the talent, like the prep going into

831
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: that week or whatever, like their focus is. They're all

832
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff I think is really good, like

833
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 2: in the NBA, like really good teams off a loss.

834
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: I like the bet on things along those times where

835
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: the sample size of an entire season stats is not

836
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: really represented.

837
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would largely agree with that. But for instance,

838
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: like last weekend, you know, listen, I didn't love a

839
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: ton of the side, so I got a little exotic.

840
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: I took an over, I took an under, and then

841
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: I had, like, listen, I thought the best bet of

842
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: the weekend, it's kind of lame, but money line parlay,

843
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: give me the Bills, give me the Chiefs, Like that's

844
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: a slam dunk. That was a non sweat at all

845
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form.

846
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: Right, funny, My best bet was just Kansas City money line.

847
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. So this weekend, Doug, Okay, if

848
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: you're looking for what looks to be even money a

849
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: money line parlay Ravens Niners Lions. Who screws that up?

850
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: So I really like the concept of this one because

851
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: the Lions are the last leg chronologically. So let's say

852
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: you take care of business on Saturday with the two nine,

853
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: nine and a half point favorites, you can play half

854
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: of that plus six and a half seven on Tampa

855
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: if if that loses, I would say Tampa based on

856
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: the points spreads and stuff like that.

857
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 3: But I don't.

858
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,959
Speaker 2: I wouldn't bet my life the Niners win this game.

859
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's a path in my head that

860
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: like because we saw a party like be rattled in

861
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: that Monday Night game, like the hype. You know what

862
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: it's like on any sort of big game, there's more

863
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: media attention to you to sit on interviews, whether it's

864
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 2: the sideline reporter or it's in this case, was Troy Aikman,

865
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: the color analyst for the Monday night broadcast. Like, there's

866
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: it's just more attention. He's reading the press clippings, he's

867
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: here in the MVP bus, He's been asked about it

868
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: in previous weeks. Leading to that, he was saying McCaffrey's

869
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: gonna be he knows the magnitude of that game, and

870
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: he spelt out and show that.

871
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: So Purty Yes struggled against the Ravens Elite defense. Packers

872
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: defense is complete horse maneure. Now. I know it was

873
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: okay last week, but I thought it was more about

874
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: the Dallas offense, McCarthy getting tight Dack with the bad

875
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: pass deep in his own end. I don't really have

876
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: a concern with Perty. My only fear is the Niners

877
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: secondary right, and I do. I just know Shanahan with familiarity,

878
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: usually dominates. I remember last year. I'll never forget. All

879
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: these sharps were like, oh, you got to take Seattle

880
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: party first playoff, start, got or take Seattle. It's like

881
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: seventeen sixteen Seattle at the half and I was like,

882
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm doubling down on the Niners. Fuck this, And it

883
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: was an EASYWT second half. They just rolled him in

884
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: the fourth, Like, Shanahan is just the best, for my money,

885
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: the best offensive coach in the league, and he's gonna

886
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: make ance meat of the Packers. I like the team

887
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: total for the Niners over well.

888
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 2: I guess my pushback is so Perty. I think what

889
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: was nervous? I think it was more than obviously the

890
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: Ravens defense was excellent, But I guess my point was

891
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: like he could crumble. I guess I'm just I'm thinking

892
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: of scenarios that like the reasons that could that part

893
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: money online, part they could go up in flames, is

894
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: could he like be just nervous like he was that

895
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: Monday night gig, because I think it was obviously you

896
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: give the Ravens credit, but I think some of it

897
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: was nerves. Right, he rolled right, it was a long play,

898
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: and then he forced one back over to the middle.

899
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: Sometimes you're just rattled and you know, wet down your

900
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: leg so to speak. So that could happen.

901
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: But also the Lions, Lions, Yeah, that's the.

902
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 3: I think this Tampa Bay team is really good.

903
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: So, like my favorite win total bet was Tampa Bay

904
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 2: over six and a half plus plus money coming into

905
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: the weekend because and I give credit to my my

906
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 2: partner who talked about this, he goes, look, dude, last

907
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: year they had the second highest win total coming into

908
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: the season.

909
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: Now, they had.

910
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: Brady, but the roster was legit, the defense is legit,

911
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: the weapons are legit, and so they lose Gronk and

912
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: they lose Brady. Now not Pete Brady, Brady's last NFL season,

913
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: but that was a mass unit with offensive line injuries.

914
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: They had all these issues blocked and so everyone comes

915
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: back and healthy, and they're over under for win total

916
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: is gonna drop like five wins. He's like no, Like

917
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: Mayfield was decent with the Rams. I think McVeigh sort

918
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: of hit the hard reset with him and he and

919
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 2: I like, look, I thought either of the quarterbacks would

920
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: be fine for the Bucks. I didn't think Mayfield would

921
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: play this well. But if you look at it, like

922
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: that defense, that defensive front is legit. The secondary has playmakers.

923
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: Those receivers are studs. He's developed aughten with the title,

924
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: and like they're I'm not saying they're winning the super Bowl,

925
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: but they're like a risk. They're not the Texans in

926
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: my ass. Now the Texants have a much better quarterback.

927
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: But Mayfield and this team and like that defense is

928
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: pretty solid, like Detroit, Detroit's best two and a half

929
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: quarters of every game is super Bowl worthy. The problem

930
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: is their quarter and change, like they just kind of

931
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: hit a wall sometimes. Like I understand we made such

932
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 2: a big to do about the Lions with the checking

933
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: in who's eligible and that whole game against the Cowboys

934
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: on that Saturday night, Let's not forget Detroit got the

935
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: ball down four and GoF through an interception right away,

936
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: and then they gave up a field goal to make

937
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: it a seven point margin, and then they got the

938
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: ball back and then drove them. But GoF will make mistakes.

939
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: He's more likely to make him in cold weather on

940
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: the road. I get it it's at home, but I

941
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: worry that Detroit's feeling themselves a little too much and

942
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: celebrating them too much. I like the dog with the points.

943
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: I'm not sure they'll win, okay, but if I had

944
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: to pick a team, that would ruin that partly. But

945
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: you if you bet in game and you hit those

946
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: first two legs, you have some wiggle room.

947
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not all binary.

948
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: You can play a thirty year bet before game plus

949
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: six and a half and then create a middle and

950
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: like do some stuff like that where you manage a

951
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: portfolio if you like those first two legs that much more.

952
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: So based on you kind of sort of thinking the

953
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: Packers could pull the upset or keep it close and

954
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: thinking the Bucks are going to be live plus six

955
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: and a half, do you think plus one thousand Green

956
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: Bay to win the NFC is smart? And then Tampa

957
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 1: plus ten forty because frankly, if the Packers win again,

958
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: it's in for it, and they got to go to Detroit.

959
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't what's the line there Detroit? Like minus two

960
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: and a half. I mean the Rebate spanked them the

961
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: last time, and then if Tampa was able to pull

962
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: it off and the Niners stumble, Tampa already beat the Packers.

963
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: This was like a month ago. So do you think

964
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: it's worth throwing a couple some pizza money on either

965
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: of those teams to shock the world of the NFC.

966
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: So it's a great idea because the what you what

967
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: you do last will shape so much of the next

968
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: week's point spread in money line. So right now they're

969
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: what like plus three seventy five is probably the best number?

970
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: Who the Packers money line on Sunday?

971
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: John Saturday?

972
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, plus the money line.

973
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: So you're asking if ten to one makes sense? So

974
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: it's basically and I'm not good at this, I need

975
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: to like literally write it down, but you're basically asking me,

976
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: is like, would they be better less than two to

977
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: one odds at Detroit? But they but they conceivably could

978
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 2: face Tampa, right, Like, that's what you're saying.

979
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: So I would say, who's.

980
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: The seventh seed? Uh? The Packers are, so Tampa could

981
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: host the NFC title, right.

982
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 2: Right, obviously that would be better than you know, in theory,

983
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: Tampa's obviously you'd rather play at Tampa than at Detroit Bay.

984
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, but.

985
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: Green Bay's better than you know obviously had already won

986
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: at Detroit on thanks getting I think ten to one's

987
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: probably a good bet then, and you can probably find

988
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: better than ten to one right at various places.

989
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I.

990
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: Don't think it's that terrible.

991
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 2: I think the Packers like sort of fit the mold,

992
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: like I heard someone this morning, because the Niners' futures

993
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: got lowered because Dallas lost, right, so that they were

994
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: plus two fifteen to win it all and now they're.

995
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: Of the NFC. Yeah, so the NFC they got.

996
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: But some would argue like the Packers sort of wildcard nature,

997
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: like the variants of them, Yeah, actually gives the Niners

998
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: a little bit more doubt. Like I think that's a

999
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: fair argument.

1000
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: You know, you're right, I could see Packers shocking them,

1001
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: but I can also see and I think it's more

1002
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: likely thirty eight seventeen forty nine ers like we're just

1003
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: forgetting green Bay got shredded by Bryce Friggin young within

1004
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: the last few weeks. Like I think Doug, the recency

1005
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: bias this weekend is going to get a lot of

1006
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: people who like the Dogs.

1007
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 3: That's just me. Of course, I could be right.

1008
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: That happens a lot this round. That's why I like

1009
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: the one Seeds a little bit. I'll also say this,

1010
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: I believe this is Green Bay's fourth road game in

1011
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: five weeks.

1012
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, yep, yep, yep. I definitely agree. And they

1013
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: had the early buy I think it was like week

1014
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: five or six, so that team, I know they got

1015
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: a lot of young dudes, but they are banged up, like.

1016
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: But they've been playing like a draining schedule, like you

1017
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: felt that in that Bears game week eighteen, right, like

1018
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: it was just like and then they're like going Before

1019
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: that when they lost at the Giants on that Monday night,

1020
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: there was mental mistakes, muffed punt, I think Love got stripped, and.

1021
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: You could argue that dan Quinn thought he had the

1022
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: Seattle job in the bag, and I know he would

1023
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: never admit this, and you can push back, but like

1024
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: my guess is the week of the game, Oh, we're

1025
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: touchdown favorites, so come on, we got these guys let

1026
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: me start building my staff late at night and reaching

1027
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: out to guys who might want to coach with me,

1028
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: and Seattle like, you know he's doing that. That's like

1029
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: what any normal human would do. So you're probably not

1030
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: as locked in on this game as as Kyle Shanahan,

1031
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: who said we started prepping it what the second quarter

1032
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: or something like that. I don't know.

1033
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: I also don't think the Cowboys are that good too.

1034
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: That's the other thing. I think they're overrated. I mean,

1035
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: I only the defense was that good. Bland was very

1036
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: opportunistic with the pick sixes, but like this was not

1037
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 2: like a wagon of the team. I mean, they stumbled

1038
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 2: into the division championship because the Eagles bought so much

1039
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: the second half of the season, and I think the

1040
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: offense can hum but some of these home roads splits

1041
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: and all this was inflated by some of their opponents.

1042
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: Like this team was terrible at Buffalo, played pretty well

1043
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: at Miami. But Miami's an overrated team too. They're a

1044
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: bunch of woosies as well, and they showed it last

1045
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: weekend against the Chiefs in cold weather. Like these teams

1046
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: did not belong in the conversation to begin with, like,

1047
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 2: did you, like maybe week thirteen, did you just look

1048
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: at the futures and be like, only like four or

1049
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 2: five teams could win this thing anyway?

1050
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: Well that the weird part is Dallas had been humming

1051
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: until that Seattle game. They got a little exposed, like

1052
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: Gino Smith is torching you. I know it's a Thursday night,

1053
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: but come on, I thought they were one of the

1054
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: five they could win. I lost some futures on Dallas.

1055
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean I've lost futures on several teams that have

1056
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: been bounced now.

1057
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: Right, it's fair. I thought Dallas was lot.

1058
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: I thought Dallas's best, like stars like things would definitely

1059
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 2: have to break their way.

1060
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: But I thought I could.

1061
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: I could have them coming out of the NFC for sure,

1062
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: Like I think their best is is really good. It's

1063
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: just they weren't consistent enough. And that's my concern with Detroit.

1064
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: Like Detroit's best can win it all. Like they're probably

1065
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: like the cusp of like who can win and who

1066
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 2: can right, like they could if things break right. Obviously,

1067
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 2: if like the Niners, loss would be the biggest gift

1068
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: ever for them.

1069
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: But like they they could win.

1070
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: But I just think at some point you need a

1071
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: team that can play four solid quarters, so I like

1072
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 2: in the AFC obviously the Ravens, and then I think

1073
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: it's either I mean Mahomes or Allan could obviously win

1074
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: it all just by themselves, but that team has been

1075
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: so shaky, like they you know, the operative phrases. They

1076
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: play with their food, like no one plays with their

1077
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: food more than the Bills and the Chiefs this year,

1078
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: and I feel like that's gonna hurt them at some

1079
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: point along the way.

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00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: Maybe both wrap up very random? Have you bet any?

1081
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: Are there any out there college football futures? I know

1082
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: they're like posted online, but in a casino. Yeah, because

1083
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to be in Vegas at least for a

1084
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: little bit during super Bowl Week, maybe just a few hours.

1085
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: But I definitely want to lay it with Ohio State.

1086
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: I have a gut feeling they are. Assuming Harball leaves

1087
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: right and then he's like fifteen twenty guys to the pros.

1088
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: I think Ohio State is probably the team for next year.

1089
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 3: Are you comfortable with Ryan Day?

1090
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: I am.

1091
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 3: I'm okay with him. I'm okay with him. I don't

1092
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: think he's good over I mean, I think he knows

1093
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: what he's doing.

1094
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: Obviously, But have you been any for next year or

1095
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: too early?

1096
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: No, I was thinking about loading up on Alabama under

1097
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: nine and a half actually, so Fandle threw that up. Yeah.

1098
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, look, they got Georgia at home. Their schedule

1099
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: is brutal, I mean really brutal. They're at Oklahoma the

1100
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: week before the Iron Bowl every year. It's like, you know,

1101
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: it's like a random cupcake. They're playing Oklahoma.

1102
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1103
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: Now in the early season, the non commerce they're also

1104
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: at Wisconsin, which they always play give themselves a challenge.

1105
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: Sometimes they have a neutral site game. Over the years,

1106
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: they've played like Louisville, Michigan.

1107
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: US most Beef Tech you know.

1108
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly, Citadel or whatever. Right, So there's some

1109
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: stuff in it. Just the middle pack of the SEC

1110
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: is better as well. I mean, you know, Missouri obviously

1111
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: the coach of the year. They're at LSU and at Tennessee.

1112
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: And if that quarterback with the balls is that good.

1113
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: So there's a lot to like with a lot of

1114
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: other teams. Although I like the Boar and everything, but

1115
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: they're losing so much in the portal. I think George

1116
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: is going to be an absolute animal next year. But

1117
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Speaker 2: I can't fault you for Ohio State, especially with the

1118
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 2: Big Ten sort of the middle of the Big Ten.

1119
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: Usually the previous few years it was pretty good, right,

1120
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 2: this year was terrible. I mean just the whole West

1121
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: was down, and just across the board. Iowa was a

1122
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: fun team to talk about in terms of betting content,

1123
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 2: but they didn't belong on the field with like real teams.

1124
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 2: So I couldn't fault you it that like Ohio State,

1125
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: should you know be in the playoff? Well, they'll be

1126
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: in the this year's this new version of the playoff

1127
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: for sure, but I can see that for sure.

1128
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Speaker 1: All right, Doug Kazarian, what's the website, Doug, and you

1129
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: know you do on podcast? I'm sure you know the

1130
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: YouTube hit them, will hit them with everything?

1131
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll hit you with everything.

1132
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: So onlyplayers dot Com is the venture so it has

1133
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Speaker 2: all of our stuff on the site. So it's just

1134
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Speaker 2: like a betting home base, like a betting page basically articles, videos,

1135
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Speaker 2: and our YouTube channel is embedded in there. But it's

1136
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Speaker 2: also on YouTube obviously. It's wager Watch is the name

1137
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Speaker 2: of the show at wager watch TV as the handle,

1138
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: and we're gonna have much more content coming up. Like

1139
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: I said, our app's gonna be reopen. We had it

1140
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: and then we took it down to do some edits

1141
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Speaker 2: and then we're gonna be relaunching it pretty soon.

1142
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Speaker 1: Nice congratsman, and we'll talk.

1143
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Speaker 2: About It's all free. That's the other thing that's it's free.

1144
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: So it's like a betting site with picks and all

1145
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: that stuff, but it's really just taking my cell phone

1146
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Speaker 2: and putting it on like TV and the digital platform.