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Speaker 5: The bye week is here, No Barry Church.
Speaker 4: And I really wanted to talk to Barry because Barry's
Speaker 4: all been about he said Justin Herbert was going to
Speaker 4: be a top five m VP guy and Kellen Moore's
Speaker 4: showed Mike McCarthy and win. So I don't get talked Jesse, Jesse,
Speaker 4: I don't get to talk to Barry this week. But
Speaker 4: you know how Barry is about these things. He's got
Speaker 4: these these these these I believe this and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: stand on it. And I didn't get a chance to
Speaker 4: talk to him because I was doing baseball. But It's okay.
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Speaker 4: I'm merely new Scrutch. So this media mash is Uh,
Speaker 4: this this mash of new media here as we do
Speaker 4: the players lounge just for this bye week that's coming
Speaker 4: up here. I'll just go around the table here since
Speaker 4: we haven't had a chance to just talk at all.
Speaker 4: Your impressions of the Monday night win against the Chargers.
Speaker 6: I think there's still a term from Dan Quinn gritty
Speaker 6: but not pretty. It was a gritty but not pretty win.
Speaker 6: This is more realistic than what this is, what the
Speaker 6: brand of football and how you win football games. Monday
Speaker 6: night was more realistic than what you saw even in
Speaker 6: the even like even in their blowout loss to the Niners,
Speaker 6: that's not realistic. Football doesn't happen like that, the blowout
Speaker 6: wins against the Giants and the Jets. Football didn't happen
Speaker 6: like that weekend and week out. I think this was
Speaker 6: more of a realistic understanding of how football is being played,
Speaker 6: and the team went out there, uh and got a
Speaker 6: gritty victory that they needed. You saw the reactions that
Speaker 6: they got. You saw Dak was like, thank you. Mike
Speaker 6: McCarthy was like, yeah, like you saw. You saw those guys,
Speaker 6: the desperation in that celebration of those guys getting that victory.
Speaker 6: They knew what it was if you lose two games
Speaker 6: in a row heading to the bye week, losing to
Speaker 6: that team so gritty but not pretty. We'll take it
Speaker 6: four and too heading into the bye week.
Speaker 1: I'll take it gritty. I love gritty. Let me see this,
Speaker 1: and you know I'm too old for this. Anyway. I
Speaker 1: enjoy a gritty game. This is a team that needs
Speaker 1: to win more gritty games. You know what, we're front runners.
Speaker 1: Let's just say, that's what they call us all over
Speaker 1: the country anytime we come from a tough team. You know,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we got these problems. All you
Speaker 1: got the injury here there. You know, we're like a
Speaker 1: little you know, manicure is not quite right the way
Speaker 1: you want it to be. Hey man, I see yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying over inside of the table.
Speaker 1: But anyway, anyway, no, no, but this is the kind
Speaker 1: of game that we needed to win. This is the
Speaker 1: kind of team we need to be. I really don't
Speaker 1: like the fluff. I don't like the blowouts necessarily, because
Speaker 1: there's always a moment theater where this game could have
Speaker 1: gone either way ends up being a blowout. I won
Speaker 1: the game. What we just had the other night to
Speaker 1: where everything was against us. It was and it wasn't
Speaker 1: pretty at all. I love gritty. This is the kind
Speaker 1: of team that needs to be gritty. I always compare
Speaker 1: what I want for this team to what we are.
Speaker 1: I always compares to the Ravens, the Titans. They'll go
Speaker 1: out and win some crazy game. You know how the
Speaker 1: hell they win that game. I don't know how they
Speaker 1: won the game. This is the kind of team I want.
Speaker 1: How they win the game? Man, they they had cohoners,
Speaker 1: That's how they won the game. That's the kind of
Speaker 1: team I want. Just what and that's what they want
Speaker 1: mother night.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's a good starting point. And I
Speaker 7: say starting point because yes, you're six weeks in now,
Speaker 7: but it gives you a good indication that this team
Speaker 7: isn't gonna peak out week five of the season, which
Speaker 7: you're starting to see some things fizzle out a little
Speaker 7: bit with other teams like the forty nine Ers, the Eagles,
Speaker 7: no more undefeated teams. I would rather have a starting
Speaker 7: point of where to work to get better than to say, oh,
Speaker 7: we're five weeks in, we're on top of the world.
Speaker 7: There's nothing left to work on. Everything's so good and
Speaker 7: then you start to see the fizzle out, especially with
Speaker 7: the back end of this schedule that the Cowboys have.
Speaker 7: So for me, I like where the team is at. However,
Speaker 7: there's a lot of room for improvement. Those pre snap penalties, wow,
Speaker 7: that IRGs and we can talk about that a little later.
Speaker 7: But I like where they're at. I like the determination.
Speaker 7: I like the resilience that they showed in this game.
Speaker 7: But more than anything, what I really like is you're
Speaker 7: starting to possibly see the offense get their footing, and
Speaker 7: I think that's they need a matchup with the defense.
Speaker 7: They need to level out there.
Speaker 1: So I remember, now he is the only gritty person here,
Speaker 1: you see, everyone else has.
Speaker 6: New He's like what I'm from, the from the jungle.
Speaker 1: Is what it is.
Speaker 4: I remember being in the locker room after forty nine
Speaker 4: or loss and Tyler Smith said we must respond to
Speaker 4: this and we will respond. So that stayed in my
Speaker 4: mind because I thought he was after after a getting punched.
Speaker 1: In his mouth.
Speaker 5: I thought Mike could talked with a lot of pride.
Speaker 5: CD was frustrated.
Speaker 4: I thought I was kind of came with the we
Speaker 4: have to respond and that, so I took his comments
Speaker 4: like that's the one I'm going to key on this week,
Speaker 4: and that was what I thought.
Speaker 5: They did. Respond, Okay, you got.
Speaker 4: Embarrassed on national television. You're right back on national television.
Speaker 4: What are you going to do? This is a good quarterback.
Speaker 4: Here is an offensive coordinator who knows what you do. Yes,
Speaker 4: there's a head coach who's supposed to be a guru defensively,
Speaker 4: and they responded defensively. And this was you know, by
Speaker 4: the way, this was the score they had the last
Speaker 4: time they went out there, and zerline ended up kicking
Speaker 4: the game winning field goal to win until twenty to
Speaker 4: seventeen wins. So this is as you two well know
Speaker 4: from play, it is not easy to win on the road.
Speaker 4: This is not college football. That's where sometimes I think
Speaker 4: cowboy fan gets into it, like it beat them by
Speaker 4: so so this is not college football.
Speaker 5: Get a win and go home.
Speaker 4: And it came down to the end as it's supposed
Speaker 4: to in most games in the National Football League. You
Speaker 4: look at the early lines are usually you know three.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not going to be easy, and it wasn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't, so they went out there they got to win.
Speaker 4: I don't think the charge is gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 4: I just think they're coaches. I don't think they I
Speaker 4: think Brandon Staley's bad. I go back into that game
Speaker 4: and he when he decided to go for the fourth
Speaker 4: down and Bland ended up breaking it up like take
Speaker 4: the point, kick the field goal. Yes, I'm like, this
Speaker 4: is this is gonna be a long game.
Speaker 1: How you know that wasn't a Kellen called because that's
Speaker 1: something Kellen would do.
Speaker 4: But this is what Brandon Staley was doing before Kellen
Speaker 4: got there, so this was already his m O.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go for it.
Speaker 4: But I'm just like, man, kick three points and if
Speaker 4: he does, maybe it's twenty twenty and you're out here
Speaker 4: kicking kicking the field goal to win the game.
Speaker 5: But this is just who he.
Speaker 4: Is, and I just think it's gonna get in fired.
Speaker 4: I said it on the players left. Would not be
Speaker 4: surprised if Kellen Moore is the interim coach at some
Speaker 4: point in time, because.
Speaker 5: He just I mean, you guys are watching the game,
Speaker 5: do you watching it? I'm looking at it. There's dumb
Speaker 5: and there's charger dumb. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: And at the end they're always driving down for the
Speaker 1: last you know, the last moments, well, I mean preserved
Speaker 1: to win them.
Speaker 6: They have the most losses by six points or less
Speaker 6: than any other team in the National Football League. And
Speaker 6: it was it was a combination of Brandon Stanley dumb
Speaker 6: and Kellen Moore dumb because you saw the opportunities where
Speaker 6: you know, Brandon Stanley he wants to go forward and
Speaker 6: fourth down he's he's been the leader of that analytics things.
Speaker 6: It says go forward it and then at the end
Speaker 6: of the game, which has always been my issue with
Speaker 6: Kellen Moore, think you it happened to us, it happened
Speaker 6: for us, and and not you know, it happens for us,
Speaker 6: and it wasn't us doing it to them. Kellen Moore
Speaker 6: went back to the same old bag. I need a
Speaker 6: first down? What do I do past I run to
Speaker 6: the sticks and turn around, And Stefan Gilmore said, not today,
Speaker 6: my friend?
Speaker 1: Like that is that?
Speaker 6: Like I remember, Kellen Moore is a disciple of Jason Garrett.
Speaker 6: I remember playing for Jason Garrett. I remember standing there
Speaker 6: on the side line sometimes and we line up and
Speaker 6: defensive backs will go here.
Speaker 5: Come the Harvey route.
Speaker 6: They're running to the sticks and I'm like, damn, we
Speaker 6: we are running the Harvey route, and sure enough you
Speaker 6: run right to the sticks and stop and people was
Speaker 6: eat it up alive. And so when you have those
Speaker 6: combinations of two coaches who who can't balance each other
Speaker 6: out right, like Kellen Moore can't out coach the stupidity
Speaker 6: of Brandon Staley, and Staley can't out coach the time
Speaker 6: the stupidity of Kellen Moore, you end up what you have.
Speaker 6: You have a team, on paper, is one of the
Speaker 6: most talented rosters in all of football, with the quarterback
Speaker 6: who people continue to overvalue and overrate because he is.
Speaker 1: One blame Herbert the way we've always been dumping on
Speaker 1: Dak in the same situation, same offensive coordinator, the same
Speaker 1: predictability in the big games that we lose. Why is
Speaker 1: it that the narrative is so different now that I
Speaker 1: don't understand because he's still considered top five and Dak
Speaker 1: is instead of falling.
Speaker 4: I've always said this when I was doing my radio
Speaker 4: show on NBC Sports Tradio, It's interesting on who we
Speaker 4: choose to forgive and who we choose to committ.
Speaker 5: Justin's been forgiven. It's this is that is that that
Speaker 5: it's always Dak's fault.
Speaker 4: One of the things that I found very interesting from
Speaker 4: the criticism Dac has gotten this year when I've heard
Speaker 4: he can't win a big game. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: going to Tampa Bay against Tom Brady's never lost to
Speaker 4: the Cowboys in his career. That's not a big game.
Speaker 4: And I learned this from John Madden, the late John Madden,
Speaker 4: when we were doing these uh we we they would
Speaker 4: fly NBC with flys all out to l A to
Speaker 4: go talk to to Alan John and I.
Speaker 5: Was in Romo.
Speaker 1: That's when the money was good. That's when, that's when,
Speaker 1: that's when, that's.
Speaker 6: When the money when the money was good.
Speaker 5: Right there, Man, network, you fly.
Speaker 1: You'll get a trip. You'll get a trip. You'll get
Speaker 1: a trip.
Speaker 6: Now they're like, uh, we're gonna send.
Speaker 5: One of y'all.
Speaker 6: At one o'clock on You got to bring your phone
Speaker 6: in the tropid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't even get a camera crew.
Speaker 6: Hey, you gotta We're gonna get your four K phone
Speaker 6: and get your tripad tropod you've been learning to do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, So that's what it is now.
Speaker 4: Nobody and so Tony's a quarterback and I asked you,
Speaker 4: I said, John Tony's got this reputation that he doesn't
Speaker 4: win big games. He's like, you know what, bothers me,
Speaker 4: bothers me so much about that? Show me the little
Speaker 4: game on the schedule. He said, they're sixteen of them.
Speaker 4: They're all big, And I would go back to this
Speaker 4: year's game against Arizona. A lot of Cowboy fans thought
Speaker 4: that was a little game. It wasn't a little game.
Speaker 4: It was no, no, and and what it could end
Speaker 4: up being in the stands along the way. There's no
Speaker 4: such thing as a little game. And they're all big.
Speaker 4: Even when they talk about, okay, well what did that
Speaker 4: do this game? Well, the defense he played against the
Speaker 4: thirty first in past.
Speaker 1: Defense, you still got go out there and pass on them.
Speaker 1: You still have to go out there and make plays
Speaker 1: and do your job. To me, that's the professionalism that
Speaker 1: this team needs to be credited for. I don't care what.
Speaker 1: We went out there and won the way we were
Speaker 1: supposed to go win. Everyone doesn't go out there and
Speaker 1: win the way they're supposed to win. Many times we
Speaker 1: go out there and we take ask Philly, ask San
Speaker 1: Francisco about those same things, about what we're supposed to do.
Speaker 5: Dax Sa hasn't touchdown passes dropped on him this year.
Speaker 4: Yes, I know he's sitting here with six touchdowns and
Speaker 4: four interceptions, but you know, the tight ends had dropped
Speaker 4: two at least two that I've seen. Gout should have
Speaker 4: had one Monday night. I thought so along the way,
Speaker 4: and look, every quarterback goes through this, you know you're
Speaker 4: gonna have. But that's a part of what's going on here.
Speaker 4: He's just undeserving of the venom that he gets. And
Speaker 4: when I hear the he's Kirk Cousins. Guys.
Speaker 5: Now, we didn't go on too far? Are even going
Speaker 5: too far?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 7: And I think too the way that Dak continues to
Speaker 7: have faith in his guys when there are drop passes.
Speaker 7: We talked to Lunda Wells today with earlier he had
Speaker 7: availability and the faith that Dak still has in his guys.
Speaker 7: Though you know, there's drop passes within the tight end room,
Speaker 7: not even just in the end zone, just in general.
Speaker 7: That's been a reoccurring theme, and he still make sure
Speaker 7: to go into the tight end meetings. He takes it
Speaker 7: upon himself to go and establish that chemistry, establish that connection,
Speaker 7: So that way, that's not an issue anymore. The amount
Speaker 7: of work that this man does outside of just being
Speaker 7: the quarterback that he doesn't have to do, He doesn't
Speaker 7: have to show up on Saturday morning to go do that.
Speaker 7: He takes it upon himself to do. I think, yeah, knew,
Speaker 7: you said it perfect. The venom is just so ridiculous.
Speaker 7: And I knew after that forty nine Ers game. I
Speaker 7: knew what the media headlines were going to be with
Speaker 7: the interceptions, and that doesn't tell the whole story of
Speaker 7: what Dak is doing. And especially going through a new
Speaker 7: establishment under this West Coast offense, There's gonna be hiccups,
Speaker 7: there's gonna be growing pains, and I think people forget
Speaker 7: You're only five weeks into the season at that point.
Speaker 5: But the criticism at the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 1: Game was warranted, Yes, yeah, with warranted.
Speaker 4: One of the things I did that week was I
Speaker 4: was talking. I was talking to several players and even
Speaker 4: asked one of the coach are can you put too
Speaker 4: much into one game?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: No, no, I don't.
Speaker 4: Under saands the measuring stick, Mike says everybody, And and
Speaker 4: the reason I'm asking it's.
Speaker 1: Like in the back of my mind.
Speaker 5: What if you don't win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like boxing. You don't you talk about your wine,
Speaker 1: You don't play well at all.
Speaker 4: You co up there look like Ero Spinz, you know,
Speaker 4: but crawfed.
Speaker 6: That's new he So yeah, getting one top them up
Speaker 6: a little bit, arrow five.
Speaker 5: And it happens. Stop styles make fights. I mean Ken
Speaker 5: Norton broke Alle's.
Speaker 4: Oh you remember back in the day, I Ali could
Speaker 4: not handle nort He just couldn't style Cooper.
Speaker 1: Cooper with the left hand, the left get it right.
Speaker 1: So so you know, these things happen.
Speaker 4: And that's why I'm like, you guys put so much
Speaker 4: into this because it's it's October.
Speaker 5: We got a long way to go, got a long
Speaker 5: way to go.
Speaker 4: And but the criticism, I thought, when you, when you,
Speaker 4: when you, when everybody talks about it, and Dak talked
Speaker 4: about it and you have three interceptions, that's not going
Speaker 4: to get it done. It's just not. And so now
Speaker 4: to the levels that some people took it too. It's
Speaker 4: for the former athletes, but that that has to be
Speaker 4: called out. Because you're making that kind of money, you're
Speaker 4: expected to perform.
Speaker 1: And he expects to perform. You can tell that he
Speaker 1: humbles himself.
Speaker 5: And he didn't and and oh, by the way, Michael
Speaker 5: Parsons didn't.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was a long life. There was a
Speaker 4: whole lot of folks that didn't get it done that day.
Speaker 4: But the quarterback is going to get it the three picks.
Speaker 4: And we could talk about, well the offense isn't here
Speaker 4: and there, and that's fine, but you got out classed
Speaker 4: in San Francisco. After saying you're ready for He's like,
Speaker 4: here we go take threw.
Speaker 1: Down the Gulflet the Cowboys threw down the guard right right.
Speaker 5: Take three.
Speaker 4: We can't get it done. And so you you opened
Speaker 4: yourself up for it. They opened themselves up for it.
Speaker 4: They took it, and then they responded against the Chargers.
Speaker 4: Now can you respond after the bye week, there's a
Speaker 4: pretty interesting opponent coming up here. Let's dive into the Rams,
Speaker 4: who won't by the way, are not the same sorry
Speaker 4: Rams people thought they were going to be to start
Speaker 4: the season.
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Speaker 4: All right, So the team's got to buy this week
Speaker 4: they go into the by four and two. When they
Speaker 4: come back, it will be a game against the Los
Speaker 4: Angeles Rams.
Speaker 5: Who are three and three right now.
Speaker 4: In their division. Obviously, the forty nine ers leading the
Speaker 4: NFC West at five and one. Seattle three and two.
Speaker 4: Rams are three and three right now. The Cowboys, oh,
Speaker 4: by the way, oh and two against West Arizona lost
Speaker 4: to them out there, lost to uh, San Francisco right
Speaker 4: out there. So here come the Rams a lot better
Speaker 4: than we thought. And I'm worried about this game. The
Speaker 4: reason I'm worried about it is Matt Stafford's got Cooper
Speaker 4: cup back and Pooka Nakula.
Speaker 1: You know who is this guy? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: They went out there like, who looks like Cooper cupp
Speaker 4: him him him? What was that movie with the two ladies, uh.
Speaker 5: Where one tried to be the other one? Chris?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 4: I can't remember that single white sing white or something
Speaker 4: like that that would where you know, that's what they did.
Speaker 5: So they found found he's from the Islands. But yeah,
Speaker 5: you looked like Cooper cup run like Cooper Cups is dark.
Speaker 6: So that's the black Kirk cousin Pook and the Coola
Speaker 6: is the black.
Speaker 1: Coat.
Speaker 4: I mean Rick Carlisle got when he first got hired here,
Speaker 4: but to go, baby, just.
Speaker 5: Like you know what, you know what they say about you.
Speaker 5: He's like, no, they're calling you Ivory Johnson.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but Rick, super smart guy, got it to me.
Speaker 5: Okay, but but we kind of had that rep. But
Speaker 5: this this.
Speaker 4: Passing game that the Rams are gonna bring in here, Uh,
Speaker 4: they're gonna test the Cowboys. They will test the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: And and Matthew Stafford, Dallas native, is his Uh, he's
Speaker 4: slinging the rock. And I give Sean McVay a lot
Speaker 4: of I thought this team is going to be bad.
Speaker 4: They're not bad. This is a team that if you
Speaker 4: are not on point, especially coming out of bye week time,
Speaker 4: this is a good football team.
Speaker 1: Jess.
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I think for me the focus is on
Speaker 7: the offensive line. What the Cowboys offensive line is able
Speaker 7: to do with another week of building that cohesion and
Speaker 7: that continuity together because that's been something that they haven't
Speaker 7: had the privilege to be able to do up until
Speaker 7: two weeks ago. And so to be able to stand
Speaker 7: against a firm D line and continue to build that,
Speaker 7: I think it can only help at this point. And
Speaker 7: you saw glimpses of it. It wasn't perfect during this
Speaker 7: last game, but to me, all eyes are on that
Speaker 7: O line and what they're able to continue to do.
Speaker 7: It's so important to build that continuity. And now you're
Speaker 7: five weeks in. Most teams have had the I guess,
Speaker 7: the ability to do that. The Cowboys are kind of
Speaker 7: playing ketchup in that department. So I want to see
Speaker 7: what the O line can do during this game.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. I'm looking forward to, not just
Speaker 1: the O line, but this is what you touched on coaching. Okay,
Speaker 1: San Francisco was on coaching this particular game. It was
Speaker 1: all about coaching. There are certain teams, such as the Rams,
Speaker 1: when you have a McVeigh who are able to draw
Speaker 1: up a game plan that can give your team a
Speaker 1: chance to win. I don't just mean you know everybody
Speaker 1: does that, but I mean they are specific in what
Speaker 1: they target they're going to target our defensive line to
Speaker 1: see if they can run the ball, keep the ball
Speaker 1: out of our offensive hands. That's what they're going to
Speaker 1: try and do, and they're going to do their best
Speaker 1: to stop us from running the ball. There are certain
Speaker 1: nuances that coaches can find out jesse As you know,
Speaker 1: that they can hang their head on that can give
Speaker 1: them a chance to stay in the ball game, to
Speaker 1: keep the crowd out of a ball game. We've seen
Speaker 1: it so many times here and this is the wild
Speaker 1: like last week of this past game, because it didn't
Speaker 1: matter what the game plan was after a while. This
Speaker 1: is about punching somebody in the mouth. It's about who's
Speaker 1: going to react to these unusually big plays that you
Speaker 1: might not be a to having against you. So how
Speaker 1: are we going to react from the fact that we
Speaker 1: may someone may be overly aggressive against us and it's
Speaker 1: working and we don't know what to do about it.
Speaker 1: This is the kind of games that we need to
Speaker 1: really go out and eliminate those causes. We need to
Speaker 1: be a better coach team and we need to have
Speaker 1: better responses to whatever we see on the field. So
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just about the reaction, not about what you
Speaker 1: go in with, but the reaction to what you see
Speaker 1: in this particular ballgame.
Speaker 6: One of the things that the Cowboys struggle with defensively
Speaker 6: a lot is the eye candy and the number two
Speaker 6: team of the National Football League with pre snap motion,
Speaker 6: the Los Angeles rams sixty five percent of the time
Speaker 6: they do pre snap motion. The sixty out of that
Speaker 6: sixty five percent they're doing motion as the ball is
Speaker 6: being snapped. That is one of the things that the
Speaker 6: Boys have to improve on. And when you have these
Speaker 6: missing pieces, when you don't have the latent evander ushers
Speaker 6: of the world, when you don't uh, when you don't
Speaker 6: have the digs of the world, and now guys are being.
Speaker 1: Moved around right.
Speaker 6: You know this defensively when when the number two God
Speaker 6: becomes the number one God, and the number three God
Speaker 6: becomes the number two God and number four God. So
Speaker 6: now you've got these rotation of guys and you're trying
Speaker 6: to have the proper communication.
Speaker 1: This is the type of offense that you.
Speaker 6: Go on you're going up against where you have to
Speaker 6: be a signment alignment sound.
Speaker 1: You have to know what the hell you're looking at.
Speaker 6: You have to know what it is before the snap,
Speaker 6: and you don't sure better know what it is after
Speaker 6: the snap, because they're gonna be passing guys off through
Speaker 6: zones and guys that be going one way and come
Speaker 6: back the other way. Sean McVay is one of those
Speaker 6: young innovative coaches who have bought into the system of
Speaker 6: we're gonna call an offense that's going to stretch your defense,
Speaker 6: and you know, now you're kind of playing Micah back
Speaker 6: and forth between defensive end and linebackers. This is a
Speaker 6: lot of movie pieces in UH in this defense. And
Speaker 6: so I want to I want them to really be
Speaker 6: able to focus on now this week. There is no
Speaker 6: work being done this week, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: The guys are gone.
Speaker 6: Rightfully so as they should be right getting their bye week.
Speaker 6: So when they get back to UH to working next week.
Speaker 6: This is one of the things that the Cowboys have
Speaker 6: to really lock in on because they're gonna try to
Speaker 6: confuse you and and they're gonna try to your.
Speaker 1: Point, Cup.
Speaker 6: They're going to try to make the matchups work in
Speaker 6: their favorite They're gonna try to get step Fan Gilmore
Speaker 6: having to run with somebody.
Speaker 1: Stepan gili He's.
Speaker 6: Not good, I said it's to come out of training camp.
Speaker 6: If he can keep everything in front of him, he's great.
Speaker 6: If he gotta get on his high if he gotta
Speaker 6: get on his horse and chase somebody, oh, he's in a.
Speaker 1: World of trouble.
Speaker 4: So just piggybacking on what you two have talked about
Speaker 4: in the coaching Sean McVay used to work for Shannahans,
Speaker 4: work right beside Kyle. He's gonna go ahead and get
Speaker 4: that forty nine to take dive into it. He'll get
Speaker 4: that Arizona tape and dive into that. Against Arizona last
Speaker 4: week they blew them out twenty sixty nine. They ran
Speaker 4: the ball twenty eight times for one hundred and seventy
Speaker 4: nine yards. So that's talking about the coach. You're gonna
Speaker 4: attack your where he thinks you're weak.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're definitely gonna get into that.
Speaker 1: So what gets me with the Cowboys though, and I
Speaker 1: talked about in the other podcast, when do you make
Speaker 1: your adjustments? It seems like once we have a problem,
Speaker 1: we don't adjust well in games that we lose. I
Speaker 1: thought that we would make a better adjustment with San
Speaker 1: Francisco sooner. You don't have to wait till halftime all
Speaker 1: the time. Sometimes you can make it after the first drive.
Speaker 1: I remember sitting there with any stoutings sometimes like hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we know exactly what they're doing with us. Jenny Stars
Speaker 1: over there yelling all right, from now on, we're not
Speaker 1: doing it like this on the flex. We're gonna make
Speaker 1: an adjustment. They don't make an adjustment, sometimes till the
Speaker 1: second half, sometimes not. That adjustment doesn't work for the
Speaker 1: entire game. I would like to see this team say, okay,
Speaker 1: we can be diverse. We don't have to be this team.
Speaker 1: Okay in the first quarter. We don't have to be
Speaker 1: that same first quar team. Second quarter, we're different now
Speaker 1: because we just made the adjustment. I just don't see that,
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm missing it because it is very new
Speaker 1: oced when it comes to adjustments. Whether they keep on
Speaker 1: doing the same damn thing in the second half they
Speaker 1: were doing the first half. Who's doing what.
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Speaker 1: I'm know, he scruggs.
Speaker 5: This is the players last. We mix things up a
Speaker 5: little bit here.
Speaker 4: We got two players Jesse Holly Everson Walls play.
Speaker 5: Jessin Barris joined us right.
Speaker 7: Now, and my title off.
Speaker 1: Okay your head to play your head.
Speaker 7: Beautiful singing.
Speaker 5: It is not Please don't do not encourage.
Speaker 1: That always always one. It's always one man, It's always
Speaker 1: it's always one. I want to bring the brother.
Speaker 5: I know, he's my dude, man, Jason. Yeah, dude, no, Lie,
Speaker 5: it is. It is a it was a bowl game.
Speaker 1: I want to say.
Speaker 4: It's the Cotton Bowl. Missouri played somebody. And I'm just
Speaker 4: standing there waiting and the dude starts asking me questions
Speaker 4: about my column and something I realized.
Speaker 1: He thinks I'm Jason Whitlow.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 5: Damn, I need to get on it.
Speaker 1: Die.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that said you the spin classes.
Speaker 1: Whatever it takes.
Speaker 5: Baby bought a trainer. It's not good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it has That was that was twenty something years Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: oh my gosh.
Speaker 6: All right between Jason, between the Jason Whitlock comment and
Speaker 6: the Nate Newton comment, you've been traumatized. We need to
Speaker 6: sit down. We need to we need to sit you down.
Speaker 6: I need to take it to my therapy session with
Speaker 6: my therapist.
Speaker 4: It's like in Houston during the baseball player, you take
Speaker 4: yourself down, blowing down there. You go take yourself right
Speaker 4: on down there, pick up some weights and start to
Speaker 4: do that. So yes, yes, Jess assistant coach talked today,
Speaker 4: you were there there give me some nuts.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I think some of the most interesting things
Speaker 7: that we heard was Aiden Dirty talked about Osa being
Speaker 7: the unsung hero, not just within the defense right now,
Speaker 7: but is a locker room leader within the team. He said,
Speaker 7: the way he goes about things, the way that he helps
Speaker 7: his teammates around him learn the nuances, especially with the
Speaker 7: younger group in the locker room, not just in his room,
Speaker 7: but expanding across really the entire team. He said, Osa
Speaker 7: is the unsung here. I thought that was a really
Speaker 7: good little nugget. Lunda Wells talked about the tight Ends room.
Speaker 7: He talked about those drop passes, so we're touching base
Speaker 7: on that earlier. He said, you know, they're not satisfied
Speaker 7: with where they are, and there's some growth to be made,
Speaker 7: but overall he likes where Jake Ferguson is as this
Speaker 7: locker room leader for the tight Ends room. He talked
Speaker 7: about Dak going into the meetings, saying that that's something
Speaker 7: new because last year the adult and Schultz that would
Speaker 7: go in and go into the other meetings, not necessarily
Speaker 7: Dak coming into the meeting. So that's something new that
Speaker 7: they're doing. Let's see what else we learned a lot today.
Speaker 7: Those really were like the biggest nuggets that we got
Speaker 7: out of it, other than we heard Let's see Scott
Speaker 7: Tolzien talked about Dak Prescott overall and kind of how
Speaker 7: he's been impressed to watch his growth over the last
Speaker 7: four years with how resilient he is with handling the
Speaker 7: media criticism. Specifically, he talked about that too. So there
Speaker 7: was a lot There was a lot of little nuggets today,
Speaker 7: but those are the main ones I picked up on.
Speaker 4: I wasn't there for it, but let me ask this
Speaker 4: was Trey Lance addressed or brought up to Scott.
Speaker 7: He was, and he asked how he was asked how
Speaker 7: Trey gets reps When you're in the middle of the season,
Speaker 7: coming in late, you don't have the off season to
Speaker 7: kind of build that rapport and get that extra work.
Speaker 7: And in the off season, he said, you take advantage
Speaker 7: of the reps. You get very similar to what Cooper
Speaker 7: Rush does. If it's a walk through rep or if
Speaker 7: it's a random practice rep where guy needs a water break,
Speaker 7: whatever the case is, you take advantage of those reps
Speaker 7: and you make them count. And so he said that
Speaker 7: Trey's done a very good job at adjusting, picking up
Speaker 7: things and being organized with how he's learning right now.
Speaker 5: Still interesting trade.
Speaker 4: And then just where this thing ends up going, you
Speaker 4: do need a backup quarterback. And and while Cooper Rush
Speaker 4: has done a good job, he's getting older. Trey Lance
Speaker 4: obviously a young player. And if you hit on this
Speaker 4: then you're looking good.
Speaker 5: If you don't. If you don't, but I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: be very interesting couping you.
Speaker 4: How does this thing work itself out come next training camp,
Speaker 4: because that, to me is when the payoff will be
Speaker 4: of can he work himself to the point to be
Speaker 4: a backup quarterback for this team?
Speaker 5: You know you're not by you got you got, You've got,
Speaker 5: You've got to look.
Speaker 6: May hold back, Come on a lot of I'm a
Speaker 6: lot of I'm a lot of things, Jersey, Because here's
Speaker 6: my thing. You didn't bring this guy here for a
Speaker 6: backup ro like you just don't bring that caliber of
Speaker 6: a play here to say. I like to think if
Speaker 6: he can make a backup role like we understand that right,
Speaker 6: like we understand the landscape of how when you look
Speaker 6: at a player of the number three overall pick, you're
Speaker 6: not trying to figure out you know what.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be a good backup for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 6: Your thought process is, can we keep the luck of
Speaker 6: the train moving? This Cowboys team has been very You
Speaker 6: can call it fortunate, you can call it blessed, you
Speaker 6: can call it lucky, you can call it whatever you
Speaker 6: want to call it. But in the last twenty years,
Speaker 6: to take an undrafted free agent and turn him into
Speaker 6: a franch Causse quarterback, to take a fourth round pick
Speaker 6: and turn him into a franchise quarterback, there has been
Speaker 6: an immense amount of blessings, luck, fortune, whatever you want
Speaker 6: to cast upon that title.
Speaker 1: This is a train moving piece.
Speaker 6: This is can we have we found the piece to
Speaker 6: keep the train moving? We're saying third round pick, there's
Speaker 6: a pedigree in that. Can we can we unearth the
Speaker 6: talent that a lot of people saw coming out off
Speaker 6: the quarter North d Quota.
Speaker 1: State, third over third, excuse me, third overall pick? Can
Speaker 1: we unearth that talent?
Speaker 6: Because let's be frank, and I'm not I have nothing
Speaker 6: against Dak Prescott, but you in year eight, at this
Speaker 6: point in time, either you got it or you don't.
Speaker 6: And with that looming sixty one million dollar tag number
Speaker 6: that comes with him next year, you have to make
Speaker 6: a decision. You're either going to extend him or you're
Speaker 6: gonna take that number and eat that number and say
Speaker 6: you're gonna play on the sixty one million dollars and
Speaker 6: then after that, we're either going to let Train Lance
Speaker 6: be the guy and we're gonna go forward with that,
Speaker 6: or we're gonna hitch our wagon to you the two
Speaker 6: or three more years and see if.
Speaker 1: This thing can't go.
Speaker 6: The train Lance wasn't brought here to be a backup.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, you just don't bring a
Speaker 6: guy of that caliber here to be a backup. You're
Speaker 6: trying to find out is this the next dude to
Speaker 6: keep your train of quarterbacks?
Speaker 1: Like I said before, have you wanted keep this thing
Speaker 1: moving going into the future.
Speaker 5: So let me come back to.
Speaker 4: You on this, Evason, because you played the league with
Speaker 4: this guy at the time, Steve Walsh didn't work out
Speaker 4: at Tampa. They ended up taking Vinnie Testaverdy Walt's trades
Speaker 4: for me backs up Joe Montana for a number of
Speaker 4: years ended up having a Hall of Fame type career.
Speaker 5: Do you envision him being that kind of player?
Speaker 4: Because when Walsh got Steve Young. He had a whole
Speaker 4: bunch of wards on and there was people that we
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 5: How do you see Lens.
Speaker 1: I don't see him as a Steve Young, Okay, I
Speaker 1: just don't. I see him as a person that could
Speaker 1: be a very good backup quarterback. That's just the way
Speaker 1: I see it. They didn't pay much for him, so
Speaker 1: I don't think they took much of a chance on him.
Speaker 1: I think he was something that kind of fell into
Speaker 1: the lap because the forty nine ers felt like they
Speaker 1: could do bad. Purdy and so Perdy made him disposable.
Speaker 1: That's what I see. I don't see him coming in
Speaker 1: here being I know you're not saying this being a
Speaker 1: threat to Dak necessarily, but like you said, just a
Speaker 1: it was low hanging fruit. You know, he was there
Speaker 1: for us and he could. He is very shiny. That's
Speaker 1: what I like about him. He's very shiny. That's what
Speaker 1: the cowboys like about him. I just don't see him
Speaker 1: coming in here to be that Steve Young. If he does, man,
Speaker 1: God bless us because we could use that. I mean,
Speaker 1: because if Dak doesn't make it within the next few
Speaker 1: years and he's still here, then yeah, they might look
Speaker 1: at him, but I'm pretty sure it's just my opinion
Speaker 1: that Dak is going to be that guy. He's going
Speaker 1: to sign another contract here. I believe that. I truly
Speaker 1: believe that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm right there. I think you didn't lose anything
Speaker 7: by getting a guy like Trey Lance on your team.
Speaker 7: You didn't lose anything, but you gain something. You gain
Speaker 7: a young guy that could potentially come in and take
Speaker 7: that backup quarterback role here in the next time couple
Speaker 7: of years. And I say potentially because they put a
Speaker 7: lot of value in Cooper Rush and what he's been
Speaker 7: able to do with the opportunity he's gotten. Cooper Rush
Speaker 7: is a backup quarterback that knows the scheme. He's been
Speaker 7: through the highs and lows with Kellen and now McCarthy's
Speaker 7: play calling. He knows the nuances. He he's enthralled in
Speaker 7: his work environment. Right, And so with Trey Lance, you
Speaker 7: have a guy that has potential. But is that enough
Speaker 7: to say anything yet?
Speaker 1: And that's my point, Jess.
Speaker 6: If you have a guy in Cooper Rush right like
Speaker 6: you're talking, we're talking about backup. So I don't want
Speaker 6: to hear he's getting older or anything. Like that, because
Speaker 6: we're not looking him for him to be the future
Speaker 6: of what we're doing. We're looking for him to the
Speaker 6: in the event that something happens to our starter, can
Speaker 6: he step in for a game two, three, five.
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1: That's more attractive than Cooper Rush when you talk about it.
Speaker 6: But for everything Jess just said, he's been here. He
Speaker 6: understands the system, he understands the environment, he understands the players,
Speaker 6: The coaches know him. You know exactly what you're getting
Speaker 6: with Cooper Rush. So in the event that something happens,
Speaker 6: you go, we're good. We got Cooper Rush. He knows us,
Speaker 6: we know him. I know where I can I know
Speaker 6: where I can take his talent. I know where he
Speaker 6: can't go. That's why I look at this and I go,
Speaker 6: if if if the backup quarterback is your thing, you
Speaker 6: have one.
Speaker 5: You have one in Cooper Rush. Trey Lance represents the
Speaker 5: bb D, the bigger better D.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's their whole Say, bb you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: As a man who I enjoy, I don't know what
Speaker 5: you're talking about.
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, you know I mean I leave that to you, youngster. Yeah, y'all, know,
Speaker 6: y'all know, y'all know. Sorry, wrong, sorry, wrong show, Sorry
Speaker 6: wrong plays last I'm sorry you were saying bb D.
Speaker 1: Bigger better deal, bigger better deal.
Speaker 4: That's that's what I represent and and this is the
Speaker 4: the nature of the owner Wildcatter Oil industry.
Speaker 5: Hey, let's go dig right there.
Speaker 4: Let's let's see if we get some some some of
Speaker 4: that Texas t to come out of that that Trey Lance.
Speaker 5: Well right there.
Speaker 4: If it does, great, If not, as you said, ever
Speaker 4: since you didn't pay much for it, you're okay. The
Speaker 4: Niners paint the bulk of it. So that's that's what
Speaker 4: it is here, all right. As we get closer to
Speaker 4: end of the show, give me your MVP and the
Speaker 4: player that's disappointed you so far six games in the year,
Speaker 4: I will start. The MVP is Michael Parsons. For me,
Speaker 4: he's not in the defensive Player of the Year conversation
Speaker 4: right now, the top three. I don't think he is.
Speaker 4: But for this football team, Micah Parsons is the MVP.
Speaker 4: When I look at disappointment, I'm looking at the receivers
Speaker 4: outside of C. D. Lamb, meaning Michael Gallup and Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 4: who I thought were gonna bring a lot more. And
Speaker 4: what I saw at training camp I haven't seen in
Speaker 4: the games. Cooks did look good against the Chargers, but
Speaker 4: I've needed to see more Gallup. I thought, hey, he's
Speaker 4: going to be back that we see more. I haven't
Speaker 4: seen that yet, so that has been a disappointment. Obviously
Speaker 4: they can turn around, but right now six games in,
Speaker 4: I thought I would see a lot more from Dak's
Speaker 4: number two and three wire receivers.
Speaker 5: Jesse, what you got man?
Speaker 10: I am.
Speaker 6: I modeled my life after consistency, and so I'm always
Speaker 6: looking for guys who can be the most consistent. Doesn't
Speaker 6: always have to be the very best. But I know
Speaker 6: what I get from you. Right like that that part,
Speaker 6: I know exactly what I'm going to get from you.
Speaker 1: Trust, Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 5: Trust requires three things.
Speaker 1: What's that time proof and consistency time?
Speaker 6: I like that, And so to to to put that
Speaker 6: time proof, of consistency time, TPC, I got I got
Speaker 6: BBD and TPC.
Speaker 4: That's from coach Kevin Ey' from coach Keviny's.
Speaker 1: You've been dying to say that I.
Speaker 5: Got you, I got.
Speaker 1: You, I got you, I got you, And so for.
Speaker 6: Me, I would say the m v P because of
Speaker 6: the consistency is take Lawrence. I think a lot of
Speaker 6: times we look for the sacks and we look for
Speaker 6: the splash plays, but when you look at just the
Speaker 6: consistent work, the pressures, the assignment alignment, like the grading out,
Speaker 6: like all those things, to me are are one that
Speaker 6: I look at and I go man. The Micah gets
Speaker 6: the credit for being the flashy splash player, but Tank
Speaker 6: to me, is the model of consistency on this defense disappointment,
Speaker 6: and I've been riding for this. I've been riding since
Speaker 6: the helicopter landed right over here in the field. Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy is the biggest disappointment to me right now,
Speaker 6: and it hurts my heart if you if you follow
Speaker 6: that with the boys show, Freaking Mike is my dude.
Speaker 6: I stood on the table for freaking Mike to get
Speaker 6: signed when we were looking for a new head coach.
Speaker 6: I wanted him to call plays from from the start
Speaker 6: like all of the above, and and finally the moment
Speaker 6: has come for him to step into that that that
Speaker 6: that that that place of this is my offense and
Speaker 6: I can really call it the way that I want
Speaker 6: to call it and and boy, we we've we've we've
Speaker 6: been left with a lot to desire. And in training
Speaker 6: camp you saw it was it was ball was high
Speaker 6: flying there and high flying there and this and this,
Speaker 6: and I watched training camp over here and that thing
Speaker 6: was slinking around the park.
Speaker 1: We get here and I'm just like, where did he go?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 1: What happened to this Texas Coast offense? Four and two
Speaker 1: not good enough?
Speaker 5: Jesse?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I didn't say that. I didn't say
Speaker 1: four and two went good enough early. I didn't say
Speaker 1: not good enough.
Speaker 6: His his ability to call the plays in the offense
Speaker 6: right now, to me, from my expectation was it's disappointing.
Speaker 1: And he said right now, he said again with me
Speaker 1: after seeing his last year's just disappointing season. And I
Speaker 1: attributed that to the injury to his knee and all
Speaker 1: of that. And I just know the athleticism that this
Speaker 1: guy possesses. I see him this year. I was looking
Speaker 1: forward to him challenging Ceedee Lamb as the number one receiver,
Speaker 1: knowing the CD's going to stay number one. But I
Speaker 1: love it when that number two guy challenges that number
Speaker 1: one number. And so I'd have to say Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: has really disappointed me to this.
Speaker 5: Point due Hill ain't walking through that dude.
Speaker 1: Man. I looked for him to really be more comfortable
Speaker 1: on that knee, and maybe he is, but I have
Speaker 1: not seen him be that guy that can take it deep.
Speaker 1: You know, we still need a guy that can go deep.
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup is that guy. CD could be that guy
Speaker 1: as well. We have receivers that can go deep, but
Speaker 1: he hasn't shown that he can get away from a
Speaker 1: defensive back, you know, to where he can open himself
Speaker 1: up for a target for his quarterback.
Speaker 5: Who's your MVP?
Speaker 1: MVP Michael Possum's that's easy. I mean I could say
Speaker 1: that year round and and I love that. But I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Delang. I just really love the way. I
Speaker 1: love his consistency I always have. There's no different this year.
Speaker 1: He's not breaking out doing a lot of things, but
Speaker 1: he's holding down his end and he's making some of
Speaker 1: those quiet plays that put us back on track defensively.
Speaker 5: Jess, save the best for that, all right?
Speaker 7: Oh this is I'm going to go seee Lamb is
Speaker 7: my MVP because this is a guy that really had
Speaker 7: to evolve his mindset to be a wide receiver one
Speaker 7: because he talked about it last year. He said it's
Speaker 7: a mindset change that you have to get into. And
Speaker 7: although he has not been productive, I don't put the
Speaker 7: blame on him for that. I don't necessarily think that
Speaker 7: he's not getting the ball because he doesn't want to
Speaker 7: get the ball. What wide receiver, starting wide receiver doesn't
Speaker 7: want to get the ball.
Speaker 6: I want the ball, and I was a Jazz, I
Speaker 6: was a job. I want the ball, Give me the ball.
Speaker 7: And that's my point is, I don't put it on
Speaker 7: him for not getting the ball right, and I think
Speaker 7: they're still trying to figure it out. But when he
Speaker 7: does get the ball, you're talking about a guy that
Speaker 7: is going to make the play happen. He's your clutch
Speaker 7: receiver for a reason. He's there, and he hasn't disappointed.
Speaker 7: He hasn't disappointed in being that starting receiver. And so
Speaker 7: I'm really excited to see, you know, only a second
Speaker 7: one hundred yard game of the season so far compared
Speaker 7: to Week one and then Monday night. But what else
Speaker 7: is he capable of doing now that he said I
Speaker 7: want the ball? Dak Prescott heard him. Dak gave him
Speaker 7: the ball. That's your starting point, and I'm excited to
Speaker 7: see that going forward. For me, Jesse, I'm gonna agree
Speaker 7: with you. It's not necessarily Mike McCarthy. It's the play
Speaker 7: calling that we've seen so far that's disappointed me the
Speaker 7: most so far this season. I say so far. And
Speaker 7: here's the thing. Yes, four and two is fantastic, but
Speaker 7: should you have lost to the Cardinals, No, forty nine
Speaker 7: ers probably, But.
Speaker 1: At the same.
Speaker 6: Call.
Speaker 7: At the same time, you haven't seen what Mike McCarthy's
Speaker 7: play calling is yet and why you've had opportunity to
Speaker 7: see it fully displayed, and why haven't you. You've seen
Speaker 7: a different version of it every single week to where
Speaker 7: you don't even know what the heck this Texas Coast
Speaker 7: offense really is yet. So for me, I want to
Speaker 7: see more of Mike McCarthy showing his hand to say, look,
Speaker 7: this is our identity.
Speaker 10: What is it?
Speaker 7: What's your identity? You're lacking it? Ceede Lamb couldn't even
Speaker 7: answer that for you. I want to see more of
Speaker 7: that going forward. And that's not to say it's a
Speaker 7: knock on anything. It's just the bar is here. I
Speaker 7: want to see it.
Speaker 1: That's a that's an agreement.
Speaker 5: That's enough to.
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