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Speaker 1: We gotta guess m C eight, what's up? You tell me? Man?
Speaker 1: Just chilling? And uh we we can't not just you know,
Speaker 1: acknowledge one of the biggest tragedies in sports history, especially
Speaker 1: for Los Angeles man, one of the greatest to ever
Speaker 1: do it. If anybody came close to Michael Jordan's, uh,
Speaker 1: it's Kobe Bryant. And sometimes even say some can go
Speaker 1: and say maybe he was a little better than Jordan's.
Speaker 1: A lot of people got their opinions. Yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say that, but he was a hell of a player.
Speaker 1: Well you know, um, Jordan was always surrounded by a
Speaker 1: hell of a cast, so it's kind of hard to compare,
Speaker 1: you know. And and and Kobe came right out of
Speaker 1: high school, straight out of high school, eighteen years old
Speaker 1: playing with big boys. He definitely did it. He definitely
Speaker 1: did it. So, I mean, you know, I just I
Speaker 1: just think it's sad we don't know when we're going.
Speaker 1: We don't know our time man and going to take
Speaker 1: his daughter too. That that that really you know, hit on.
Speaker 1: You know, it really pissed me off about that. Thing
Speaker 1: is you know how the news is always so quick
Speaker 1: to be the first ones to beat everyone else to
Speaker 1: the story, and the process of doing that, they threw
Speaker 1: Rick Fox under the bus. Oh yeah, we heard Rick Fox.
Speaker 1: We heard a couple of you know, a couple of
Speaker 1: tales out there. You know, they just wanted to be
Speaker 1: the first ones with the story, y'all believe, So you know,
Speaker 1: news team's gonna report whatever it is first hand so
Speaker 1: they can be the first jump on it. Did you
Speaker 1: hear Rick Fox telling us story that his phone started
Speaker 1: blowing up and everybody who loved him was like, what
Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine what if they were going through?
Speaker 1: I don't look I don't look at TV like y'all do.
Speaker 1: I only watch Western, so so I didn't know. Somebody
Speaker 1: showing me a little clip about one one h lady
Speaker 1: anchor and she was like the nigger. Oh yeah. I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, did she really say that ship? She
Speaker 1: really didn't say it? Yeah, And that just lets you
Speaker 1: know what people really at man, Yeah, exactly did you
Speaker 1: I heard it? You know a lot of people have
Speaker 1: disputes about it, saying that she mixed Lakers with the
Speaker 1: knicker Bockers. So that's how it came about to be names.
Speaker 1: You know, Look, that's her story. You can't mix that,
Speaker 1: you know what. I listened to it about eight times
Speaker 1: just to see if there was an explanation that would
Speaker 1: sit well with men. I couldn't find one. No, not
Speaker 1: at that's that's yeah. They'll tell us she makes nicker
Speaker 1: Nick's with the Lakers and came up with Nickers. All right,
Speaker 1: Can we all start off with a Kobe Bryant memory? Thought, like, James,
Speaker 1: I mean not just the sixty points, I mean when
Speaker 1: you watch him, I mean you got a lot of memories.
Speaker 1: I mean his dunks, you know, just you know him
Speaker 1: and shock the ship they did on on court, you know,
Speaker 1: and then you know, I didn't like the paul out
Speaker 1: between them two, and you know, you watch all that
Speaker 1: ship and then you're like typical us that fall out
Speaker 1: costing some rings, but it's typical. I think they could
Speaker 1: have got at least another two. At least they could
Speaker 1: have got three more. Hey, what's uh, what's the Kobe
Speaker 1: Bryant memory? Uh? My memories of Kobe is just being
Speaker 1: able to, you know, bring championships back to l A.
Speaker 1: Seeing the drop we had for a while. You know,
Speaker 1: we had some good players that came through, but we
Speaker 1: just couldn't get over that hump until we got Kobe
Speaker 1: and Shocked together. So that that was a big contribution
Speaker 1: to you know, the Lakers getting back on track with
Speaker 1: the championships. What we've known for Well, how much do
Speaker 1: you credit do you give to Phil Jackson? Because Kobe
Speaker 1: and Shaq got together in ninety six? They didn't win
Speaker 1: a ring until Phil Jackson came and they needed that.
Speaker 1: They needed that veteran leadership, you know what I'm saying, Uh,
Speaker 1: who else was it before them? Uh? The day all
Speaker 1: or whoever he was the coach was before him. They
Speaker 1: just need they just needed that veteran leadership, you know,
Speaker 1: with him being over at the Bulls and having that
Speaker 1: experience of how to run a team like that. We're
Speaker 1: having so many high profiles, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when he came in, he was able to tone
Speaker 1: it down a little bit, get everybody on one track, right,
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. He was able to
Speaker 1: balance the two amount, you know what I'm saying, got
Speaker 1: to be able to buy into the program, so to speak.
Speaker 1: So he got them all to buy in. But funny
Speaker 1: you said we had a drought. It was from eighty
Speaker 1: eight to two thousand. A city like without championship for
Speaker 1: twelve years is usually not considered a drought. But for
Speaker 1: l A, we're expecting him every year exactly. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know with the Lakers and then with football and
Speaker 1: all that, we're just known for winning the Dodgers all that,
Speaker 1: So to be without championships is hartful. You know, the
Speaker 1: Dodgers and the Lakers both ones indeed, and the Dodgers
Speaker 1: ain't won one since well, actually, let's say they did.
Speaker 1: They just got cheated at it two maybe exactly. We
Speaker 1: had to. We had the Billy Check videos going on
Speaker 1: in the baseball scam, so we had that going on.
Speaker 1: So it probably cost us a couple of championships on
Speaker 1: that level too. Yeah, let's they cheated us at the
Speaker 1: two of the championship I just want to do a
Speaker 1: quick fact check from last episode. I mentioned this brother
Speaker 1: that was skateboarding from Long Beas, but I couldn't get
Speaker 1: his name. Terry Kennedy from Long Beach tern Pro and
Speaker 1: uh actually had a reality show on BT called Being
Speaker 1: Terry Kennedy. He's one of the first black dudes. It's
Speaker 1: the black skateboard Yeah. I don't know if anyone predates him.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say he's the first black dude
Speaker 1: to go pro, but the first one that I've seen
Speaker 1: skateboard on the skateboarding yeah, do skateboards? That what you
Speaker 1: got to say? He's not what? Oh yeah, he's definitely
Speaker 1: not the first, but he's the first one that I
Speaker 1: was exposed to. Terry Kennedy got shot in two thousand
Speaker 1: five in the face. You know, grew up in the
Speaker 1: hood and Long Beach and who would have thought a
Speaker 1: brother like that from Long Beach returned pro skateboarding. Um,
Speaker 1: so that's that's the guy's name that I couldn't remember.
Speaker 1: Terry Kennedy. And James he was right on point last
Speaker 1: week about that Double Jeopardy. Even though O. J. Simpson
Speaker 1: got tried in criminal court was found not guilty, but
Speaker 1: they tried him in civil court and found him well,
Speaker 1: they don't use that terminology and civil they found him responsible,
Speaker 1: you know. But here's here's the fifth. This is what
Speaker 1: double jeopardy is. No person shall be subject for the
Speaker 1: same offense to be put twice in jeopardy of life
Speaker 1: for Limb. Now here's the trick thing to that offense
Speaker 1: to some is considered something criminal. On when he went
Speaker 1: to civil court, they weren't trying him for anything criminal.
Speaker 1: They were trying him for the wrongful death, which is
Speaker 1: a civil matter. But some people say that's just a
Speaker 1: tricky way to get around ship. But you can't. It's
Speaker 1: the same ship. It's the same thing, terminology, different, same thing. Man,
Speaker 1: If I got found not guilty for murder, how can
Speaker 1: your parents or anybody else say you killed my kids
Speaker 1: wrong for death and they won't assume me you can't
Speaker 1: do that. But they did even like that, you feel me.
Speaker 1: So that's the first one I went through that It's
Speaker 1: just it's just a loophole in the system. It only
Speaker 1: happened with rich people, man, And some people don't look
Speaker 1: at it this double jeopardy and say, well, double jeopardy
Speaker 1: could only be criminal like he can never he can
Speaker 1: never be tried for anything criminal together, Like he can
Speaker 1: go on TV and say I did kill her and
Speaker 1: they can't try umph criminal. But the civil thing is
Speaker 1: a little different. But a lot of people, a lot
Speaker 1: of even legal expert come if they if they found
Speaker 1: him not guilty, so how can you go They're going
Speaker 1: here and the civil and say, uh, we know you
Speaker 1: did it. What proof do they have he did it
Speaker 1: if you got found not guilty. To me, it's just
Speaker 1: a way for them to take your bread you have.
Speaker 1: Some people say it ain't about the money. Some people
Speaker 1: want to do that civil because it's a way for
Speaker 1: them to get that feeling of you being convicted guilty,
Speaker 1: even though they said in the criminal law he wasn't guilty.
Speaker 1: A lot of cases when his high profile celebrities, they
Speaker 1: usually turned around and do civil cases because and then
Speaker 1: they'll turn around and say, well, it's not about the money.
Speaker 1: To some it's a way of being able to get
Speaker 1: some kind of verdict to say this motherfucker has something
Speaker 1: to do. Period. I just need something because when a
Speaker 1: mother fuck go he's not guilty in front of the
Speaker 1: world and the cameras and all that the motherfucker's just
Speaker 1: sitting over there like fuck. So now I gotta be
Speaker 1: able to do something to feel like I gotta get that.
Speaker 1: I gotta get something that lets the world, because you know,
Speaker 1: half for the world is out there ready to tear
Speaker 1: it up because the motherfucker's found out guilty. So now
Speaker 1: let's go try him in civil case. Take his money.
Speaker 1: Say it ain't about his money. Say it's about just
Speaker 1: saying the fact that he had something to do with it.
Speaker 1: That's it. So to some of some kind of justification,
Speaker 1: like you said. But I think also they want to punish.
Speaker 1: The family wants him punished, and I gotta punish this
Speaker 1: motherfucker's some kind of way. So fuck it. If you
Speaker 1: got money, I'm gonna take your money. Just because the
Speaker 1: family believed that he did it. It's not enough to
Speaker 1: say we're want fifty million dollars. I believe that too.
Speaker 1: If you found that guilty of the criminal case, how
Speaker 1: can you turn it around? It soon be for buddy
Speaker 1: and the civil case and they go, okay, yeah, you
Speaker 1: had something to do with it. How I just was
Speaker 1: acquitted of murder. So you mean to tell me you
Speaker 1: can go around and go funck that, Yeah, I believe
Speaker 1: he has something to do it. And in any fucking
Speaker 1: high profile conviction, when motherfucker's feel they wrong nine times
Speaker 1: a teen, what the fucking jury gonna do. They're gonna
Speaker 1: award him that civil case because they don't happen as
Speaker 1: to rich people. You don't know nobody around the corner
Speaker 1: who killed your daughter in the accidental dry and he
Speaker 1: get acquitted. You don't see a motherfucker going, yeah, I
Speaker 1: take you the motherfucker civil court. I'm gonna take your
Speaker 1: low rider or your dope spot fucking I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: all that. But you know what, they should do it
Speaker 1: because you never know when someone might come up on
Speaker 1: the lottery or something. Because you have that judgment there,
Speaker 1: that's forever. That's what you have, that judgment there, that's forever.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, ten years later he
Speaker 1: came across fifty million. Boom that right off the top
Speaker 1: to whoever did do that. But you're right, no one's
Speaker 1: thinking like this, dude, Yeah all right, but you you
Speaker 1: was on point though on that double jeopardy. Most people believe,
Speaker 1: even though it's civil cord, that is still a violation
Speaker 1: of double jeopardy. All right, And the last thing I
Speaker 1: wanted to fact check was you. You asked an interesting
Speaker 1: question about does alcohol affect the sperm count and men
Speaker 1: when they're trying to get women pregnant. We were talking
Speaker 1: about marijuana, but then you said what about drinking? And
Speaker 1: I don't know it does actually Listen to this, five
Speaker 1: five or more drinks in a two hour period will
Speaker 1: have a direct and negative effect on your sperm count,
Speaker 1: and fourteen drinks within a one week period will lawyer
Speaker 1: testosterone and lawerr sperm. Well, let me tell you something
Speaker 1: when back in the days when I was drinking that
Speaker 1: that that Supercyco and gin. I think all my kids
Speaker 1: came around the same time. So because they had you strong,
Speaker 1: you was off that ship. Christian, I don't know what
Speaker 1: showed you when well that it's pretty unanimous and all
Speaker 1: the medical journals that you don't want to be impregnant
Speaker 1: aty woman on Hennessey that that much like I said,
Speaker 1: like he said in our era, that that might have
Speaker 1: not happened because a lot of kids was conceived off
Speaker 1: of some some some some some eight ball and some
Speaker 1: Christian brothers. I'm telling you all right, so let's get
Speaker 1: into it. Eight man, you're the guests, You're the man
Speaker 1: of the hour. James, you want to start it off,
Speaker 1: go ahead? I mean I got to say, go ahead.
Speaker 1: You against the rapper. There's no way around it. Listening
Speaker 1: to your first few albums when you was with Constant
Speaker 1: most wanted check this out. A lot of people say
Speaker 1: the history of gangster rapping l A goes back to
Speaker 1: n w A or Iced Tea, But I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: out on a limb and say, gangster rap started from
Speaker 1: a dude from your neighborhood. Gangster rap started with Toddy
Speaker 1: T and Nick mixed Map the Ken, then they they
Speaker 1: started gangster ed te Iced Tea came around eighty seven
Speaker 1: with Dog in the Wax You Don't Quit Um and rhymes.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah uh. Iced Tea was working with Unknown so
Speaker 1: he was like label type of ship. Tott T and
Speaker 1: them was straight T d K tapes in the garage.
Speaker 1: You know, we used to bottom motherfucker's for ten dollars
Speaker 1: and ship, so to us, that was our rendition the
Speaker 1: first gangster roup because you know Todd and Spade and
Speaker 1: Ken and then they talked about the dope sales in
Speaker 1: the hood. They talked about the raids. With the Battle Ram,
Speaker 1: they talked about the clucks and the strawberries and ship.
Speaker 1: They basically gave us the info as young Motherfucker's I
Speaker 1: was a young dude. I was probably like nine ten,
Speaker 1: So they gave us the info on was really going
Speaker 1: on in the neighborhood. You know what I'm saying for
Speaker 1: kids whose parents were still trying to keep them on
Speaker 1: the ground and ship, you know, like my mom did
Speaker 1: until I was about toy or thirteen. So yeah, was
Speaker 1: more considered a one hit wonder. You don't remember the
Speaker 1: Battle Ram song Ram that was gangster and that predates
Speaker 1: pretty much all of the mainstream gangster wrap that put
Speaker 1: l A and Compton on the map. Tom made it
Speaker 1: as far as to what Epic he his single, I mean,
Speaker 1: it went through the channels, It came from the mix
Speaker 1: tapes in the street. Then he made it to an
Speaker 1: independent label, Eve Gym, and then about a year later
Speaker 1: Epic put his single out, the Battle Round. So if
Speaker 1: there any other sort of rapper that was grapping that
Speaker 1: gangster stuff that inspired Toddy T, or was that just
Speaker 1: a Toddy T Hibben Spade mixed Master Spade. They was
Speaker 1: like a crew that that's what it was Hibben Spade
Speaker 1: and with Spade also from Track. Now Spade was from
Speaker 1: where Uh yeah, so Spade was. But they just hooked
Speaker 1: up and they, like I said, that was our first
Speaker 1: introduction to gangster rap. And then from THEE and ship
Speaker 1: all kinds of ship came along. Do you hear often
Speaker 1: that that Track News is considered pretty much the history
Speaker 1: of the foundation of the first gangster rap on wax
Speaker 1: on record. I don't really hear people say that. I mean,
Speaker 1: tyd t doesn't really get mentioned as often as I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Todd is satisfied for what he did, as
Speaker 1: far as Compton is conserved, as far as rapp is concerned,
Speaker 1: because he knew he was like one of the godfathers
Speaker 1: of comping gangster rap. Because Ice Tea gives credit to
Speaker 1: uh Philly Rappern and SCHOOLI D for inspiring him. And
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I don't think I ever.
Speaker 1: I think Ice Tea came from New York. I think
Speaker 1: so that would be his influence. It wouldn't be a
Speaker 1: h young, you know, dope selling, you know, gang banging
Speaker 1: nigga from Track New Park but was moved to l
Speaker 1: A when he was at least twelve, but he but
Speaker 1: to me he still had that New York influence and
Speaker 1: his influence of coming up on gangster rap because ship
Speaker 1: we listened to fucking school d d. He was gangster
Speaker 1: rap to us though, you know so. But as far
Speaker 1: as who we considered was our pioneer was Todd in Spade.
Speaker 1: Now we were said gainst rap way back then, gainst
Speaker 1: rep wouldn't like the rev we got today. No, this
Speaker 1: gainst rap rapping and gainst repp is two different things.
Speaker 1: And and what you heard them, dude, they were They
Speaker 1: weren't talking about pulling up on the blocks. Todd and
Speaker 1: them wasn't talking about drive bys and ship like that.
Speaker 1: They was basically just talking about what was going on
Speaker 1: in any Nega neighborhood. Who was selling dough. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were talking to hustle and you know, the cluckheads, and
Speaker 1: we're trying to get money. And Compton City they they
Speaker 1: never glory, They never spoke on being from trag new
Speaker 1: They never did that because to me, they were smart.
Speaker 1: They wanted to gather everybody crips bloods essays, we want
Speaker 1: everybody in the city of Compton to float with our ship.
Speaker 1: So we're not gonna say we're from trag New part
Speaker 1: even though motherfucker's know where we're from, but we're not
Speaker 1: gonna say that. That was something about what We didn't
Speaker 1: have to do that. Even me as a rapper coming up,
Speaker 1: I never had to say I was from trag New Park.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel we needed to do that. We we
Speaker 1: we we didn't feel we needed to glorify that ship
Speaker 1: because for niggas who was really in the neighborhood every
Speaker 1: day or on the block or was used to hanging
Speaker 1: over there, we didn't feel we needed that type of identity.
Speaker 1: We wanted to be fucking. We didn't look at ourselves
Speaker 1: as gangster rappers. Niggas was just rapping. We was just
Speaker 1: rappling about what we was doing. Every day. We was
Speaker 1: in an neighborhood, we was hanging out. Niggas was doing
Speaker 1: dry bys and selling dope, and we was fucking hood rats.
Speaker 1: And that's where we pretty much as everything. That's what
Speaker 1: and on the ground out there, and for and for us,
Speaker 1: we didn't want to We wanted that ship too. Niggas
Speaker 1: knew where we was from, but we wanted to capture
Speaker 1: every gangster. We wasn't after just man, we're just trying
Speaker 1: to make music for the crips. We wasn't on that.
Speaker 1: We want to fucking I want them niggas to like
Speaker 1: my ship, the blood niggas, the hood niggas in Texas
Speaker 1: and New York. And that's what we was looking for.
Speaker 1: So back in our days, we didn't feel we had
Speaker 1: to say, oh we was a crip or blood or
Speaker 1: whatever whatever. But that's where rap is nowadays. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of niggas want to signify where they from.
Speaker 1: You know, I get it, you know, because you want
Speaker 1: to say it's toned down or whatever. I think it's
Speaker 1: too late to to become like a straight gangster rapper
Speaker 1: because all these little figures cats coming out of here
Speaker 1: and they start making money now, they want to find
Speaker 1: their hood to identify exactly. You gotta be like from
Speaker 1: the ground up. You gotta be like in the field
Speaker 1: already exactly. See. You know what it's like you you
Speaker 1: all that game from the hood. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So these little cats coming in here now today, and
Speaker 1: this is what I'll be trying to get him to understand. Like, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to see his name. That's six
Speaker 1: nine little cats. You know what I'm saying, You got
Speaker 1: you got all these know I'm serious, you got all
Speaker 1: of these these cats coming to the hood. But then
Speaker 1: we let the men the hood, and then you find out, man,
Speaker 1: what but for the money. Yeah, a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of niggers feel like, you know, get pressured into
Speaker 1: that motherfucking position. And then a lot of dudes who
Speaker 1: want to be authentic, so to speak, they try to
Speaker 1: latch on to hurting dudes who might be affiliated or
Speaker 1: have some kind of you know, they only gotta they
Speaker 1: only they gotta work with the real. So some niggas
Speaker 1: feel like, hey, maybe if I start hanging or pay
Speaker 1: my way in or give niggas some ship, or buy
Speaker 1: a couple of niggas and chains and put them on
Speaker 1: the playroll, that gets me in. You know. That's that's
Speaker 1: what the that's what the motto is today. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a firm believer that it don't work. But
Speaker 1: you know, when you got a lot of brothers, that's
Speaker 1: that's hanging on the block. Ain't doing ship going back
Speaker 1: and forth to prison, And when the opportunity comes, it's
Speaker 1: always opportunity ship jumping on it. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, each and every last one of us
Speaker 1: that dealt like that and brung a cat in like
Speaker 1: that or somebody else. The short you always lose at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Letting people in your neighborhood, letting people be a part
Speaker 1: of what you know, your bloodsho and tears. I know
Speaker 1: what it was because for me and for niggas like
Speaker 1: I grew up with it, getting into the gang means
Speaker 1: you had to get your ass jumped in and put
Speaker 1: in work. That's how you got into the game. It
Speaker 1: wasn't about buying your way in or let me go
Speaker 1: over here and buy a couple of niggas and chains
Speaker 1: and watches and ship and take them on tour. And
Speaker 1: we started hanging out and now, fuck it, I'm from
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. Ship. It wasn't that that, That wasn't that
Speaker 1: wasn't the cold. You're talking about the eighties now and
Speaker 1: we ain't never seen a decade now. I wanted to
Speaker 1: say mention all the eighties rappers never mentioned the gang
Speaker 1: name on WAX. I don't think it was. I think
Speaker 1: DJ Quick is the first one that's ninety one when
Speaker 1: he came out with his first album and he said
Speaker 1: second like tree top swinging from the trees. But n
Speaker 1: w A iced t seeing comes the most one. No
Speaker 1: one said gang names in the eighties. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if DJ Quick changed the game in ninety one.
Speaker 1: And and I think that's ro started to say a
Speaker 1: couple of gangs stuff, you know, I right, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you wanna. I mean, we're not true because everybody
Speaker 1: around here knows about the banging on Wax records. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and a lot of them, a lot of them cats
Speaker 1: was claiming their neighborhood there. So that's my first rendition
Speaker 1: of niggas claiming sets on records because they were out
Speaker 1: just this is my hood, Okay, so let's let's change it.
Speaker 1: They that's independent, independent, also signed to major labels. So
Speaker 1: no major label rapper and no Quick set a gang
Speaker 1: name on Wax, right, And I think that changed the game.
Speaker 1: I don't think it changed the game. I just think
Speaker 1: it was, you know, something Quick wanted to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean as far as if you look at after that,
Speaker 1: I don't think as far as we was concerned, we
Speaker 1: still was on the same pattern. We still it didn't
Speaker 1: start speaking about trag New and I mean maybe after
Speaker 1: some dudes mighty start saying what street they was from
Speaker 1: or grew up on or stuff like that. But but
Speaker 1: you know that really just like I'm from tree Top
Speaker 1: or trag New or I'm from the motherfucking this block
Speaker 1: or that block. I think that started like down the
Speaker 1: line something, you know what I'm saying. After after quick
Speaker 1: and after a lot of dudes, Snoop was started mentioning
Speaker 1: twenty one three. But if you notice, Snoop didn't do
Speaker 1: a lot of that too in the beginning. But then,
Speaker 1: you know, like some dudes just it just it just
Speaker 1: started to transition. Fucking Oh did I hear him? Oh
Speaker 1: he said he was from so and so. Well, fuck it,
Speaker 1: now I'm from a fucking street. Or then next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, my nigga game came along and it was
Speaker 1: Cedar Block. And then next thing, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: y g and it was Tree Top and it was
Speaker 1: four hundred block. And then everybody's you know, fuck it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna represent my neighborhood. Fuck it. And I think
Speaker 1: Pop was shouting out the mob man, you you that Now,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I think the nineties kind of we
Speaker 1: saw it kind of slowly. It started slowly evolving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because motherfucker's want to let you know. Fuck it. You know,
Speaker 1: if it's like that ship, I'm gonna start letting people
Speaker 1: know where I'm from. Fucking and and and that was
Speaker 1: the crazy part. Like when you were uh quick, little
Speaker 1: beef man, you never crossed paths, and and you had
Speaker 1: pretty much a little bit of everybody taking sides. And
Speaker 1: now this is me from this day, from back then,
Speaker 1: and now that was the beef. You had bloods and
Speaker 1: crips going at him when you had this beef. And
Speaker 1: then you know, you got niggas got sucked up. Now
Speaker 1: now you're all good. Oh no, we're good as my
Speaker 1: fun exactly. I mean, I mean with the truth and
Speaker 1: all of this stuff. The kitchens in the east, those
Speaker 1: guys and you know, everybody trying to to make and
Speaker 1: half peace, but they can't get over the humph they
Speaker 1: killed the homie or they did this. You got a
Speaker 1: guy right here that's making money, DJ Quick, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, making money. They got this feud. They
Speaker 1: feud involved everybody, it did, but I mean everybody. But
Speaker 1: then at the end of the day, just say I
Speaker 1: lost my cousin behind this feud. But these dudes are
Speaker 1: right here today and they're cool. They're cool as hell,
Speaker 1: So it don't make no sense to even create this
Speaker 1: this this look at Tupac and Biggie. You know that
Speaker 1: beat was half as it was just full of ship,
Speaker 1: but look what it cost. And then at the end
Speaker 1: of the day they were hooking up and getting back together,
Speaker 1: but it didn't happen. But then here you got other
Speaker 1: people talking and and like like nothing ever happened. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I don't know what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say. I'm just trying to say they're worth
Speaker 1: the beefs ain't worth it. No, definitely at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, especially if if it comes down to
Speaker 1: Nigga's losing their lives and ship over. You know, I
Speaker 1: credited to just being young and immature and basically wanting
Speaker 1: to again, I won't to represent where you're from. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, uh us, I mean me as a young
Speaker 1: rapper and ship even out you know, in the streets
Speaker 1: going on tour, I still wanted to hang with the
Speaker 1: homies and be associated to the neighborhood even though we
Speaker 1: was making money. I'm saying in movie screens and ship,
Speaker 1: our our identity was still compting in the neighborhood, and
Speaker 1: we didn't want to forget that. But then, like you said,
Speaker 1: beefs come over territories and rivalries and ship like that.
Speaker 1: And then it spread to records and then innocent bystanders
Speaker 1: or niggas who ain't even got shipped to do it
Speaker 1: the by spit or the rap he wrote. Now niggas
Speaker 1: is losing their lives, are getting fucked up behind it,
Speaker 1: So I think you you know, and then you got
Speaker 1: some niggas who instigate the ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then he got homies, and I got homies who
Speaker 1: feel like we gotta represent And even when motherfucker's ain't around,
Speaker 1: that's how the beach still goes on because now you've
Speaker 1: got people on the outside to feel like, fuck it,
Speaker 1: we gotta partake too. So it comes with just trying
Speaker 1: to overtime and just being mature enough to grow the
Speaker 1: funk up. Really, And you know, some of us when
Speaker 1: we get into that age bracket to where we start,
Speaker 1: you know, getting a little gray hair and kids running around,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're still able to sit around here
Speaker 1: and be like, God, damn, I'm getting old and got
Speaker 1: a teenage daughter or daughter who got a kid now
Speaker 1: or blah blah blah. I guess we started getting them
Speaker 1: a little mature to where nigga don't want to have
Speaker 1: no motherfucking beach as a grown man. I want to
Speaker 1: be able to go where the funk I want to
Speaker 1: go and go hang with whoever and whatever neighborhood without
Speaker 1: it having a result into the situation of you know, ship.
Speaker 1: I used to be a crip and you used to
Speaker 1: be a blood and niggas used to shoot at me
Speaker 1: and we used to shoot back and somebody lost their life.
Speaker 1: I get it, but that's like warfare to me. The
Speaker 1: casualties of war. You give me, don't fall don't fault
Speaker 1: me for what I did when I was following the
Speaker 1: motherfucking street code and the rag and whate because now
Speaker 1: I'm a mature man and I know it ain't about
Speaker 1: that ship. So casualties of war, mom, nigga, if you
Speaker 1: feel me. We just saw the Florences and the East
Speaker 1: Coast Crips in their twenty year war. We're talking about
Speaker 1: probably one of the most bloody conflicts in the last
Speaker 1: two decades that Florence's were playing East and the East
Speaker 1: Coast is gang bag bang like a mother. So these
Speaker 1: guys came to the table in September two thousand nine
Speaker 1: teen and ended it. So if they can do it,
Speaker 1: But just that just goes back to what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Look how lone that was. And now they they're not type.
Speaker 1: But they didn't, you know, so crazy. I said it
Speaker 1: on this podcast like a few months before that, that
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring the East Coasts and the Florences together.
Speaker 1: And when I said it, I didn't know how what
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. I didn't know what was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything. And then like I talked it
Speaker 1: into existence, and then people sometimes happen. You know how
Speaker 1: many people hit me in the inbox saying are you crazy?
Speaker 1: The East Coast and the Florence will never truce? And
Speaker 1: then with three months later, boom they have to take
Speaker 1: Now they're still good, right now, They're still good right now.
Speaker 1: In fact, um myself and Skip Townsend brought the Inglewood Thirteens,
Speaker 1: the Queen Street Bloods and the Neighborhood Pirus and Inglewood
Speaker 1: to the table last Friday for the first time, and
Speaker 1: that was the first meeting for them to have a
Speaker 1: three way truce. So we got another meeting this week,
Speaker 1: the second meeting to kind of solidify that. So I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna start spreading. Man, like the eighties gang
Speaker 1: banging in early nineties, gang banging has been over and
Speaker 1: just treacherous day. Yeah, And like you said, we got
Speaker 1: to get over the casualties. But everybody ain't. If anybody
Speaker 1: ever get you ain't got a gang banging history. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you some catching and who would be like
Speaker 1: Funk that they don't want to let it go all
Speaker 1: you have to have somebody there to get him to
Speaker 1: let it exactly. You know what I'm saying. If black
Speaker 1: man are gonna kick it in one room like this
Speaker 1: years ago, I never saw this exactly. Oh no, I'm
Speaker 1: not going nowhere with this dude. I didn't like his
Speaker 1: music because he was talking about quick. Okay. If if
Speaker 1: this is a blood and crypt than everybody knows who
Speaker 1: they ride with exactly saw each other. It's a problem.
Speaker 1: And niggas was getting beat up cars shot up there
Speaker 1: exactly playing their song. You know what I'm saying, We're
Speaker 1: going up Chris Shaw playing his song I had a
Speaker 1: seventy seven call at the time, and I'm bumping DJ
Speaker 1: quick as soon as he was talking about the dice
Speaker 1: pop pop Pop swerved off Hits Central. I don't know
Speaker 1: where the funk it is, but it's somebody that didn't
Speaker 1: like that. So you've got people mad, you've got people
Speaker 1: understanding and needs meet all the time, and and at
Speaker 1: this point it's good. It's like we don't care anymore
Speaker 1: about that because majorities. There's more brothers that don't want
Speaker 1: to do it anymore than there are that one to
Speaker 1: keep pushing that, and in these meetings, the majority rules.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not a I'm talking about the streets right now,
Speaker 1: but the meetings are the dudes from the streets. They
Speaker 1: come into the table and then they're going back to
Speaker 1: the streets saying, look, we just had this meeting. Hopefully
Speaker 1: they are strong enough in the presence that they can
Speaker 1: articulate the dudes because like like he said, it's just
Speaker 1: motherfucker's who are like fuck that. You have to have
Speaker 1: that motherfucking person who was able to go to the
Speaker 1: because it's all it's it's usually some young dude or
Speaker 1: some dude from way back in the day who feel
Speaker 1: like funk, that brother was killed, cousin was killed, family
Speaker 1: was killed, and y'all trying to sit down with the
Speaker 1: hood that done it. I am not for it. And
Speaker 1: like you said, there are just some dudes they go,
Speaker 1: we can't do this ship no more. But you always
Speaker 1: got that one or two that cannot let go the
Speaker 1: casualty of war that I can't do it. So they
Speaker 1: have to be able to show him that it's a
Speaker 1: better way, in a better side than keeping the fucking
Speaker 1: animosity and the anger to still want to pop every
Speaker 1: time you see a nigger from that neighborhood. And that's
Speaker 1: what they're doing. And a lot of these brothers are
Speaker 1: This is risky work, these truces. These truces can't get
Speaker 1: you killed because you go back to the neighborhood and say,
Speaker 1: we just had a meeting and you bump into someone
Speaker 1: like you're talking about you don't know what he's feeling
Speaker 1: that day, you know, So it's pretty risk it's pretty dangerous.
Speaker 1: But you know, we're pushing, we're pushing, and uh, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, there's there's too many people
Speaker 1: that want to end the animosity. There's too many people
Speaker 1: from these neighborhoods, from these sets that come to these meetings. Man,
Speaker 1: every time we do a meeting, there's more people. The
Speaker 1: following week there's more people, ten more people come. Well
Speaker 1: that's because you got, oh the older cats trying to
Speaker 1: jump on the bandwagon, and because they tired. You know,
Speaker 1: we got kids, we got grandkids. I'm raising my two
Speaker 1: year old man son three years over. He's three. I
Speaker 1: hadn't boy what two years and and man, I'm enjoying
Speaker 1: that more than I did anything in my life. So
Speaker 1: when you get fifty five, you on your way. You
Speaker 1: can't be looking stupid out there on the block no more. So.
Speaker 1: You know, these guys coming home from prison after doing
Speaker 1: I don't know which way to go, and then all
Speaker 1: they see is a little homes and their nephews and
Speaker 1: all that. But while killing each other. It's time. But
Speaker 1: you just got a lot of cats. And then you
Speaker 1: have some older catch that's out there still pushing the line.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's just ridiculous. Well, I'd
Speaker 1: like to see um A lot of you do. His
Speaker 1: father's and the number one thing that comes up is
Speaker 1: like my son is twelve. My son'st the gang ages,
Speaker 1: the gang joining ages, and most people don't want this
Speaker 1: for their kids. So that's why they come into these meetings,
Speaker 1: and that's why they're saying, we're gonna end this truth.
Speaker 1: We're gonna end this rival because I want my son
Speaker 1: to be able to walk from point A to point
Speaker 1: B and not have to deal with the things that
Speaker 1: I had to deal with when I was coming up
Speaker 1: during that time. So a lot of these guys that
Speaker 1: have sons, that's a huge motivator. And how can you
Speaker 1: not how can you go against that? Because if you
Speaker 1: got a son and you still living in that situation,
Speaker 1: then nine times out of ten he gonna have to
Speaker 1: deal with what you dealt with as a young stir
Speaker 1: banging and whatever. So if you're trying to see a
Speaker 1: better life for your kids and you're still living in
Speaker 1: that situation, you know, because some dudes don't migrate out,
Speaker 1: fuck it. I stay right here in the neighborhood or
Speaker 1: in in l a still or whatever. So knowing how
Speaker 1: the streets was when we came up, and how easy
Speaker 1: it is for you to get motherfucking got it. It
Speaker 1: has to be a situation to where they come together because,
Speaker 1: like you said, yeah, I don't want to have my
Speaker 1: fourteen year old son walking to the store and the
Speaker 1: motherfucker pull up just because last night somebody went through
Speaker 1: their neighborhood and shot up. Now my innocent fourteen son
Speaker 1: is going to get shot because he's just walking to
Speaker 1: the store. So it's a lot of innocent by standardship.
Speaker 1: So if you want to kill that, you gotta be
Speaker 1: able to come to some kind of agreement, at least
Speaker 1: for the kids, you know what I'm saying. There's been
Speaker 1: a lot of talks. And Compton also a few six
Speaker 1: months ago. I think these two neighborhoods are close to you,
Speaker 1: the Swamps and the Campanella's, I believe, had a couple
Speaker 1: of meetings. I'm not sure what. I wasn't president at though,
Speaker 1: so I don't know what happened, but a lot of
Speaker 1: compon neighborhoods that were rivals. I'll come to the table
Speaker 1: at least having some discussions, preliminary talks. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: only it's the only way for you to try to
Speaker 1: survive the next generation and to leave something behind or
Speaker 1: to try to stay you know, foundation strong, incounting you
Speaker 1: get me. So you know, we just can't like, we
Speaker 1: just can't kill each other off until motherfucker's like dinosaurs
Speaker 1: and extinct, you know what I'm saying. That's what's happening.
Speaker 1: In the early history of UH when Swamp was just
Speaker 1: swamp boys and Campanella was just Campanella boys, they was
Speaker 1: all together in the in the seventies. It usually like that,
Speaker 1: and then something happened, somebody get killed, the funked up
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then there goes to split or there
Speaker 1: goes the community unity of whatever, and the next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, motherfucker's is worn. Well. Well, nowadays you got
Speaker 1: even in and everywhere, you got a homie killing the homie.
Speaker 1: It's so watered down now then whether it used to
Speaker 1: be in the eighties, it's so watered down. So you
Speaker 1: you you got homies killing the homies, you got you
Speaker 1: got cats from another hood. Y'all was tight down. We
Speaker 1: didn't now we're killing each other. And and and one
Speaker 1: thing about the Crypts and Compton, I can tell you
Speaker 1: they was all good, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: they knew it was its number of bloods and Compton,
Speaker 1: but all the Crypts, especially Santana's and I say this
Speaker 1: all the time. Them cats was right by us, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And them cats, if we don't,
Speaker 1: they're coming back. Baby games I had. I mean, those
Speaker 1: cats had each other, them had it. They were solid.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, those them to cash. I
Speaker 1: gotta go after these dudes. Banion was game banging. Was
Speaker 1: game banging and not killing the little kid. Back then,
Speaker 1: if if I saw you with your baby, we had
Speaker 1: what you call you get a pass. Now they're gonna
Speaker 1: you and your baby down in your arm. These cat
Speaker 1: we didn't have. We didn't have too many innocent kids
Speaker 1: getting killed and ship, I mean, niggas was worn like
Speaker 1: a motherfucker. But it was something about, like you said,
Speaker 1: at the level of of of respect for kids and
Speaker 1: fucking situations like Nick ain't going to see you in
Speaker 1: the car with your kid and just be like fuck it,
Speaker 1: We're still gonna dump on the nigga. It was some
Speaker 1: kind of some kind of respect or code of the
Speaker 1: streets we had with motherfucker's don't give a fuck kids
Speaker 1: and everything out we're shooting up now fucking exactly now. Um.
Speaker 1: A few episodes ago, we interviewed Alonso Williams, and I
Speaker 1: think that almost every artist went through the world crist
Speaker 1: Wrecking Crew at some point every artist that became relevant,
Speaker 1: you did you have your path went through Alonso at
Speaker 1: at some point our path went through Unknown and Alonzo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it did. Um. I told him when he was on
Speaker 1: the show that if you total up the value of
Speaker 1: all the artists that you've ever dealt with, the billions,
Speaker 1: he'd declide he'd be the black Clive Davis right now,
Speaker 1: real ship. Let me tell you something in our days,
Speaker 1: and I say this about every artist, we all got
Speaker 1: to go through it. You go through to getting fun stage,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna funk who you are. You're gonna have that
Speaker 1: nigger who the manager or whatever, and he's gonna fuck you.
Speaker 1: And not to discredit them niggas. But we didn't get
Speaker 1: ship just we was just happy. But the motherfucking we
Speaker 1: was just happy to get on. Now. Look, I deal
Speaker 1: with Mac. I mean Mac was cool to me. He
Speaker 1: was a cool person. Now being on as far as
Speaker 1: business and being on who banging. I mean, as far
Speaker 1: as our artist is concerned, you always gonna want the
Speaker 1: best of feel. You want to the ship for yourself
Speaker 1: as an artist and on the business side. You know,
Speaker 1: one of my things was never take ship personal if
Speaker 1: it's business, and in situations with me knowing how to
Speaker 1: run my business and my record ship, it's just something
Speaker 1: motherfucker's ain't gonna go for. And then sometimes when you're
Speaker 1: a young business owner and you first started starting in
Speaker 1: the business, you know, you don't really know you know
Speaker 1: how to just handle fucking business. I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's go through that though, start businesses and they
Speaker 1: failed because you guys were like teenagers. When when you
Speaker 1: was dealing with Alonzo, I'm guessing you I was a mocker,
Speaker 1: was about seventeen. It was about sixteen seventeen when I
Speaker 1: started dealing with Alonzo. We met Alonzo fucking around with
Speaker 1: some niggers that funked around across the street from Chill,
Speaker 1: and we wanted to form this group compence most wanted.
Speaker 1: So we did that and they took us. We went
Speaker 1: made a fucking little dim old tape or some ship,
Speaker 1: and they had a meet. They was trying to get
Speaker 1: on their singers and we just happened to be riding
Speaker 1: with the motherfucker's and they ended up at Alonso house.
Speaker 1: We had to tape on us. We played it for
Speaker 1: him Ship. A week later, Alonso was hitting us up,
Speaker 1: telling us to come back to the studio, but Alonzo
Speaker 1: then funk with us. Alonzo pushed us off to Unknown DJ,
Speaker 1: and that's how we got on. So who are some
Speaker 1: of the early artists that you met back in the
Speaker 1: day when you was with with Alonso that before they
Speaker 1: blew up and before they came up, you must have
Speaker 1: seen a little bit of everybody. We know Easy and
Speaker 1: Ren because Rin used to come across the street from
Speaker 1: Chill's house all the time, So we used to see
Speaker 1: Easy and n all the time. And then uh fucking
Speaker 1: with Unknown I mean in Alonzo, I mean Ship. It
Speaker 1: was all kind of motherfucking independent artists we've seen on
Speaker 1: the way up, you know what I'm saying. Uh Dub
Speaker 1: was on his way up, fucking like I said, Iced
Speaker 1: Tea was on his way up because he funked with Unknown,
Speaker 1: because Unknown had a little independent label called Techno Hop.
Speaker 1: So we used to see all kind of motherfucker's going
Speaker 1: around the little little motherfucking We used to go to
Speaker 1: the clubs and Ship and Water the Bush and the
Speaker 1: Paradise and all that. Ship. So we used to see
Speaker 1: a lot of motherfucking niggers on the come up. He
Speaker 1: is Wren the best lyricists from n w A. It's
Speaker 1: really the best lyricists from n w A. It all
Speaker 1: depends because go back and listen to all them songs.
Speaker 1: It was was the Ren to me, was the motherfucker
Speaker 1: who that was the MAGA union funk with when they
Speaker 1: came to the Cube was the clever motherfucker. Cube was
Speaker 1: the clever storytelling motherfucker. He could put the clever stories
Speaker 1: about the dope ship and what because Cube was an artist.
Speaker 1: Rin was the motherfucking killer battle rat nigger. He wrote
Speaker 1: just straight up fucking fear ship. So to me coming
Speaker 1: up in the n w A days, to me, yeah,
Speaker 1: he probably I probably was. He probably was considered hard
Speaker 1: this to me as far as lyricists concerned, because he
Speaker 1: was a fucking lyricist. I mean, Cube was clever, but
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't start bumping real Cube heavy until
Speaker 1: the motherfucking's Steady Mobbing album. Who was the real gangster?
Speaker 1: All them out of n w A easy, I mean
Speaker 1: easy if you asked me, we all know we're usually
Speaker 1: come from Compton, I mean, but the rest of them.
Speaker 1: I mean RN was in Compton all the time, but
Speaker 1: it was never a game bager though. I don't think
Speaker 1: RN ever, I mean, chill you would know more than
Speaker 1: I do. He ran around with Tramor and south Side
Speaker 1: or was he? I see this is this in first
Speaker 1: to me? Uh, what about Ice Cube? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: Cube wasn't from Compton. Now, I used to funk with
Speaker 1: my nigga j D, who used to live over there
Speaker 1: in the South. That was my nigga. I used to
Speaker 1: run with j D all the fucking time. Um, but
Speaker 1: Cube never really Cube really never claimed to be a banger.
Speaker 1: I mean people just took that assumption because of in
Speaker 1: way too Crippin to every movie he did. He did
Speaker 1: this in every movie. He made sure he threw up
Speaker 1: with c he he was he let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Cube was one of the Cube to me was the
Speaker 1: nigga who grew up in the hood, who hung around
Speaker 1: the bangers, and he was he was accepted. You don't
Speaker 1: have to claim one. He left or whatever, and to him,
Speaker 1: that's where he came. Like if I wasn't claiming Track
Speaker 1: knew and I still My cousin was from Tragnew and
Speaker 1: we lived over there, and niggas knew I was a
Speaker 1: rapper and all, and I get in fucking videos. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw up to see and everything because they're
Speaker 1: gonna accept it because to them it looks like I'm
Speaker 1: representing for us. You don't need to you're representing for us.
Speaker 1: So that's how we took it. But as as far
Speaker 1: as artists and banging and all that, Ship I never
Speaker 1: my personally, I never And I used to hang with
Speaker 1: Cube in the early days when it was street knowledge
Speaker 1: and all that. I never got the assumption that Cube
Speaker 1: was a banger. You know, niggas like us were still
Speaker 1: wearing bandanas in our pockets and ship like that we
Speaker 1: were banging. He definitely took gainst the rap and and
Speaker 1: use it to his his potential. He's a millionaire out
Speaker 1: of gains rap straight banging out of conting. But says,
Speaker 1: if you look at it, it's a lot of niggas
Speaker 1: right now, who's who's as we would call them in
Speaker 1: our in our banging days, it's a lot of perpetrating
Speaker 1: and is now who do ship that ain't whatever authentic
Speaker 1: and ain't making a gang of bread off? You know?
Speaker 1: Ship Now it's like Ship, Uh, Hollywood acting and imagery
Speaker 1: is everything. Now, you know, you don't have to be authentic.
Speaker 1: You can just look the fucking park. Yeah, there were
Speaker 1: like no real bangers in the movie Colors. That was like,
Speaker 1: I'm it's it's like in the sports world when you're
Speaker 1: coming up through high school and all that, and they
Speaker 1: call it. This motherfucker passing the eye test. I don't
Speaker 1: know what fucking skills he got, but this motherfucker six
Speaker 1: five two and something pounds. God damn, he passed the
Speaker 1: eye test. Signed him up. So a lot of niggas
Speaker 1: passed the eye test. You give me, I put on
Speaker 1: a couple of gold chains and some tattoos, with my
Speaker 1: shirt off and put a rag in my back pocket
Speaker 1: and be from any fuckingwhere. But nowadays you put me
Speaker 1: on YouTube and motherfucker's don't know, Ship, I'm passing the
Speaker 1: eye test to a lot of motherfucker's. Oh look at
Speaker 1: this nigga. Stick got the chains on and standing in
Speaker 1: front of the Ferrari nigger got the tats and the
Speaker 1: fucking rag in his back pocket. Everybody accepting that, did
Speaker 1: you hear what he's saying? That nigga said, I will
Speaker 1: smoke you with the drade. Cold nigga, nigga hardest and
Speaker 1: motherfucker please nigga, I'm for motherfucking Rhode Island, Connecticut. It
Speaker 1: don't fuck it, give me, it don't matter. You could
Speaker 1: pass the eye test, now fuck it true, man, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of a guy who seriously passed the eye motherfucker's
Speaker 1: passed the eye test. Man. I ain't gonna even say no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's on six Nine's talk about somebody who made hundreds
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars passed the eye tests. I don't
Speaker 1: he gonna be mad. He he's already pissed at us. Man,
Speaker 1: he's already. Yeah, you're mad at us, because, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about. He passed the eye test
Speaker 1: because he didn't bang with y'all. He didn't um, he
Speaker 1: didn't put in no work with y'all, but he passed
Speaker 1: that eye test. Well, when, well, that's something totally different.
Speaker 1: Explain that when when when let me let me let
Speaker 1: me explain ship. Sheil lived in the hood, just like
Speaker 1: he said, like like I already got a pass because there,
Speaker 1: but she went off to college. She'll had both his
Speaker 1: parents when she went off to college. Everybody doing anything.
Speaker 1: When I say she wasn't a bona fide a one
Speaker 1: hunted should win. That dude that's standing on the block
Speaker 1: with a pistol should when that dude that was in
Speaker 1: the car or in the back seat ready to hang out,
Speaker 1: that motherfucker he never put a red band down in
Speaker 1: his back pocket on his forehead and say let's go
Speaker 1: to to swap me. Sheild was never want to look
Speaker 1: for a compromsation from the other side. You ain't never
Speaker 1: had a problem with the other side, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So he didn't live like we lived. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When he came, he came with money,
Speaker 1: and he bring that money and then he he got
Speaker 1: with me, and he said, but when he got with you,
Speaker 1: he didn't have no money. When it was fern Hill
Speaker 1: records and so you don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Was the very early records. He was, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: put his business out there. He had money. When I
Speaker 1: got out of prison, he looked out for me. That's
Speaker 1: when me and SI hooked up. Now I'm going to
Speaker 1: Vegas with ship. Now I'm getting on that damn airplane
Speaker 1: with ship. So now we we met this meet this
Speaker 1: rich white guy giving up money and and down here
Speaker 1: I am. I'm when I went to prison. It was like, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't had nothing. I'm a young kid, I'm nineteen
Speaker 1: years old. I'm you know, fully active into this. Coming
Speaker 1: home two years old. He goes shop. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now, that's what should run to to our neighborhood.
Speaker 1: She'll didn't bring no gangster ship to the hood. Ship
Speaker 1: didn't come and go wild. She came to the hood
Speaker 1: and say I got a dream. I need you to
Speaker 1: help me build this dream. And that's what happened, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's that's that's the only
Speaker 1: thing that kept brought to that table, all that other ship.
Speaker 1: That's what everybody else wanted to think. She'll was never
Speaker 1: a game member. She can She don't have days where
Speaker 1: he could sit with the homing and drank a beer
Speaker 1: and talk about remember this time we was wo He
Speaker 1: don't have no days like that, so he could talk
Speaker 1: about being on the plane and flying here and flying there.
Speaker 1: But all that other ship, no, no gangster ship, and
Speaker 1: the death thrower showing the interest in you guys. But
Speaker 1: you guys already had like three albums out before Death
Speaker 1: Throwers was established. Three or four had uh what four?
Speaker 1: I think we was working on. No, we was working
Speaker 1: on Actually we was working on was it was it?
Speaker 1: Music to drive By? We were working on Music to
Speaker 1: drive By? When death Row formed because Shug put Unknown
Speaker 1: on the payroll as a producer. That's when they had
Speaker 1: to That's when they was with the GF ship too,
Speaker 1: because they got they had coats. I remember Ann came
Speaker 1: to the studio they had the black leather coats with
Speaker 1: the hooks on them with the turk coise patches on
Speaker 1: the back and said death Row. Um, that's when death
Speaker 1: Row first formed. Um. So we was already three albums in,
Speaker 1: you know, and m Unknown was dealing with Sugar as
Speaker 1: far as production because you know, he was trying to
Speaker 1: work on the compter on our Music to drive By record,
Speaker 1: but he was also supposed to be doing beats for
Speaker 1: Sugar and them for the Convicts when they were over there,
Speaker 1: because they were supposed to be the first group. I guess,
Speaker 1: and uh, I know On got into a little confrontation
Speaker 1: with Shug because he didn't turn beats in on time,
Speaker 1: so that didn't work out. Pretty good. So, but we
Speaker 1: I never had any issues with Shook. Everything was good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he was looking for an artist at that time.
Speaker 1: Did he ever consider you guys know because we were
Speaker 1: already signed to Sony, did that matter? I mean, we
Speaker 1: were signed to two epics Sony. You know, our contract
Speaker 1: was straight with them, So it wasn't a situation to
Speaker 1: where we were signed to an independent and you know,
Speaker 1: something to where you can walk up on some nigga
Speaker 1: from the neighborhood and be like, hey, you're gonna let
Speaker 1: see him dub about the contract or whatever. We We
Speaker 1: were straight. We were straight signed to Sony, So it
Speaker 1: wasn't you wasn't going to walk up to Dave Glues
Speaker 1: office and do no ship like that. How hard was
Speaker 1: it back then to get signed to a major label
Speaker 1: like that because it didn't seem too common like it
Speaker 1: wasn't in our days of wrapping, you know, it was
Speaker 1: the like like it is now, which is crazy because
Speaker 1: now it's the world of independent labels. When we first started,
Speaker 1: it was the world of independence. Techno hop uh Alonzo
Speaker 1: with Crew cut u l A Dream Team had a label.
Speaker 1: Egypt had Egyptian Empire. Uh Ruthless was started. Uh, it
Speaker 1: was nothing but independent labels. So um it was. It
Speaker 1: wasn't heard of for niggas to get major label deals.
Speaker 1: You know, major label deals was fucking run DMC. You
Speaker 1: get me h L L COO J with Deaf Jam
Speaker 1: I mean Beastie Boys, those were major labels. Because even
Speaker 1: niggas like Eric B and Rock Him and fucking E. P.
Speaker 1: M D and them cats, they were on independent record labels.
Speaker 1: I mean. So we just happened to Unknown, who used
Speaker 1: to wor his way through fucking Hollywood. For some reason,
Speaker 1: he had a hook up with Orpheus Records, which was
Speaker 1: independent but had major distribution through Capitol Records, so he
Speaker 1: knew the guy who basically worked who owned Orpheus Records.
Speaker 1: Orpheus Records was the home of Melbourne Moore. Okay, so
Speaker 1: her husband, Charles Huggins owned Orpheus Records. So somehow Unknown
Speaker 1: knew the dude who worked for Orpheus. We had a
Speaker 1: fucking what MAXI single out, This is Compton, give it up,
Speaker 1: I give up nothing. They took that ship up to Orpheus.
Speaker 1: They heard it and because the street buzz on nick
Speaker 1: gangster niggers in the streets was going because Easy was cracking,
Speaker 1: n w A was cracking, King T was cracking, Ice
Speaker 1: Tea was cracking. So they were one of the motherfucker's all,
Speaker 1: we gotta give us one of them. Real talk, we
Speaker 1: gotta get us one of them. So we got signed
Speaker 1: to Orpheus Records, which had a deal with Capital, and
Speaker 1: that's how we got our major label deal. Damn that
Speaker 1: just sounds were just in the right place at the
Speaker 1: right time. Gangster rap was was going off in l
Speaker 1: A Like after Easy and them hit with fucking boys
Speaker 1: in the hood, Fucking labels wanted them a fucking gangster rapper,
Speaker 1: and we just happened to be in the right place
Speaker 1: because we was already making tapes in the hood and
Speaker 1: the garage and ship like that, and we was able
Speaker 1: to put together some ship wearing fucking and then ship
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, it's pretty cool until you know a label.
Speaker 1: They like our ship. Some motherfucker's got on khaki suits
Speaker 1: and fucking band damas and ship. They looked like them
Speaker 1: in w A Fox sign them. Motherfucker's up man, Ship.
Speaker 1: I'm on the plane. Three months later they got my
Speaker 1: first They're on the plane in New York and walking
Speaker 1: around Manhattan and Ship like we was neighborhood niggas. We
Speaker 1: tore up the motherfucking room like it wasn't Ship nig
Speaker 1: We some neighborhood niggas throwing motherfucking chicken out them win
Speaker 1: doing Ship off the thirty fifth floor, and Ship we
Speaker 1: didn't know how to act. We were some niggas from Compton.
Speaker 1: We didn't give a fuck down out there on the road.
Speaker 1: How many I know, everybody got to ask what that there?
Speaker 1: How many niggas? I mean, it's always somebody to tell
Speaker 1: you something on the reel. In my fucking twenty years
Speaker 1: or thirty years of touring, we never had a fucking
Speaker 1: confrontation with nothing. Probably one in tuc signs Nigga. And
Speaker 1: when that's when nigga, we was banged out to the fullest,
Speaker 1: you know, and to sign was full of bloods. And
Speaker 1: when I say that was probably I mean everybody in
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. It was about a theater that held about
Speaker 1: three thousand people. Every motherfucking there had on head bandamas.
Speaker 1: I kid you not that y'all performing. Oh they loved
Speaker 1: us performing. But when it was trying to get up
Speaker 1: out of there, it was a couple of shots went off.
Speaker 1: We had to because ship, I mean, niggas, let us perform.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy ship. We performed through the show. Everything
Speaker 1: was gravy, but when it was trying to lead that
Speaker 1: motherfucker man. But other than that man, we didn't travel
Speaker 1: the country the overseas. That was our only incident. I've
Speaker 1: never gotten into it with mother. Usually I go to
Speaker 1: a nigga. Usually I go to a nigga town. I
Speaker 1: don't give a funk if it's crip or blood affiliated.
Speaker 1: I go to a nigga's neighborhood and hang with them.
Speaker 1: That's how we get motherfucking cool with niggas because we
Speaker 1: go because back then you had to do in stores
Speaker 1: and promo tours and go to record stores and signed
Speaker 1: fucking autographs. And so I'm trying. You're just happen to
Speaker 1: pull up somewhere with niggas banging, and then they want
Speaker 1: to be bloods. They want to be crips most of
Speaker 1: the time. Right, most of the time here nigga's come in,
Speaker 1: they actually for autographs. You go out in the back,
Speaker 1: smoke a joint with them. They like, this is our hood,
Speaker 1: you know, we're cool with it. And then from there
Speaker 1: it's just a respect thing. So we tried not to
Speaker 1: I don't know how you want to put it. We
Speaker 1: try not to go motherfucking places and agitate motherfucker's and
Speaker 1: we My thing is, look, we gotta come out here.
Speaker 1: We gotta make some more fucking money, and we gotta
Speaker 1: get the funk up out of here. We ain't nowhere
Speaker 1: near fucking Compton, So let's get through this, motherfucker. Nobody
Speaker 1: go to jail, nobody ends up in the fucking hospital,
Speaker 1: and we're on the plane the next morning. So let's
Speaker 1: go do the show. Nigga smoked. They we meet a
Speaker 1: couple of fans, and then niggas would tell you, nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm on your door at six o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: Let's get the funk up out of here. We don't
Speaker 1: you know, that's my thing. Don't like you don't know
Speaker 1: what the fun is going on? Now, we always had that.
Speaker 1: You know, we're from Compton. Compton is the greatest motherfucking
Speaker 1: get me, Compton is the greatest place. And then when
Speaker 1: you talk about banging, we don't give a fuck. We
Speaker 1: pull up in your motherfucking town. Get out, nigger, and
Speaker 1: it's only five of us, and we whoop every motherfucker
Speaker 1: in here. We won't give fun. That's our feeling. But
Speaker 1: my thing was, you know some professional ship. You get me.
Speaker 1: We got these motherfucking white executives out here, You got
Speaker 1: the road managers out here. Motherfucker's scared, man, So you
Speaker 1: can't get into situations that these other motherfucker's can't handle.
Speaker 1: And then you don't want to go home. And next thing,
Speaker 1: you know what, motherfucker dropping you from the label because
Speaker 1: every time you go somewhere, you're beating on motherfucker's, are
Speaker 1: getting in the shootouts and ship like that. Now that's
Speaker 1: giving us a bad name. Now we're all in the news.
Speaker 1: And then back then it's all about gangster wrap is
Speaker 1: bad and there's bitches, and it's all this type of ship.
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to. I didn't want to bring
Speaker 1: no motherfucking drama to that because we was already getting
Speaker 1: a hard time just trying to be who we were
Speaker 1: as artists. You get me. I'm not trying to be
Speaker 1: a motherfucker that think I'm battered than the niggas in
Speaker 1: Chicago or New York or Texas or wherever. But nigga,
Speaker 1: we were hard nigga were hard with the lord's tucker
Speaker 1: on your heads like she wasn't everybody else's. She wasn't
Speaker 1: on my head. But I had a nigger who one
Speaker 1: of them Centator niggas was talking about the Week Comes
Speaker 1: Strapped album and all that ship. I mean, we felt like,
Speaker 1: I don't know ship. We wasn't trying to say fucking
Speaker 1: every lady is a bitch or a whore or hood rap,
Speaker 1: but ship in my neighborhood, it's a couple of hood
Speaker 1: fucking ship like not you, You're not one. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that about you, miss or you lady. You know
Speaker 1: you sophisticated. I'm not meaning that, So don't take what
Speaker 1: I say on my fucking record is every fucking female
Speaker 1: on our planet Earth is a bit or horror. No,
Speaker 1: but god damnit this. Some girls in my neighborhood funked
Speaker 1: with me, funk with my nigga from the mob, funk
Speaker 1: with the bitch from south Side. She funk with all
Speaker 1: she then't got around. So to me, that's a hood rat.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you want me to call her
Speaker 1: other than that youven get me, So that's our term.
Speaker 1: Don't take it personal. You get me, So we had
Speaker 1: to deal with that. But it's just an expression of
Speaker 1: what I like. I said, that's what we grew up knowing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't going to get
Speaker 1: on record and be like our grandmama and know that
Speaker 1: girls are hardly or she's a fucking funk, that she's
Speaker 1: a hood rat. That's what we grew up on. That's
Speaker 1: what they taught us in the hood. So I mean
Speaker 1: a lot and a lot of motherfucker's got on us
Speaker 1: because what we represented we was gang banging. All these
Speaker 1: guys talking and the bad influence. And now kids across
Speaker 1: the country is gang banging and killing motherfucker's and blame
Speaker 1: it and on rap music. It's the dumbest ship I've
Speaker 1: ever fucking heard in my life. Motherfucker. I don't watch
Speaker 1: Superman in the morning and put on the cape and
Speaker 1: go to the top of the roof and be like, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: you get me. You gotta have fucking sense. And I
Speaker 1: feel if you raise your kid right, motherfucker, you know
Speaker 1: you can't. Gang banging is real ship. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, music has influence. Man, I never tell you
Speaker 1: somebody never heard a motherfucking's song in my life that
Speaker 1: makes me want to take something or do something stupid whatever.
Speaker 1: It's fucking You could be crying your heart out on
Speaker 1: the record and saying you went through that, ain't me.
Speaker 1: You get me. I got the sense to know that
Speaker 1: ain't me. Or I'm feeling this fucking musician or artists
Speaker 1: so bad, I feel your pain. Or you're talking about
Speaker 1: some heartache or a breakup. Okay, yeah, I might have
Speaker 1: went through some ship like that, but that don't mean,
Speaker 1: motherfucker I want to go motherfucking shoot up everybody around
Speaker 1: the corner. Because on the records you said something, Then,
Speaker 1: motherfucker that means fucking I can go watch Arnold Schwartz
Speaker 1: and Ager and watch him kill up every motherfucking America
Speaker 1: and go le me grab my motherfucking A K forty
Speaker 1: seven and just start killing motherfucker's and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get away with it. It happened like that in the movies.
Speaker 1: I mean, so sometimes on records you have to dig
Speaker 1: deep into it and just listen to the explanation or
Speaker 1: listen to what they're trying to do. They're trying to
Speaker 1: tell you what I went through. Necessarily, you don't have
Speaker 1: to go through that. But it might be a motherfucking
Speaker 1: this situation that might ben like minds or whatever. So
Speaker 1: just hear my story. That's it. Well, you still got
Speaker 1: reminded kids out here today and that believes in what
Speaker 1: you're saying, that believes in the pistol, believe that they
Speaker 1: have to identify themselves with the hood. A lot of
Speaker 1: them in my neighborhood. Everybody go through it. You have
Speaker 1: a you have a lot of kids just don't understand
Speaker 1: and getting leadership from a father. Pickre, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Some don't have a father Pigre. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But is that an excuse for you
Speaker 1: to go and terrorize. No, No, definitely not. I mean
Speaker 1: you have to be able to differentiate what's real and
Speaker 1: in fiction or what happens you get kids. I don't
Speaker 1: think you can blame the art, but I do believe
Speaker 1: the art has influence on all kind of negative things.
Speaker 1: The two dudes that had that forty four minute shootout
Speaker 1: with the L A. P. D. Back in that was
Speaker 1: they was watching Heat. They was loving the movie Heat.
Speaker 1: Dude when strapped and they went strapped and look what
Speaker 1: the funk happened at the end. Your movie script is done.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker you did me. You ain't coming out of this
Speaker 1: safe and flying off the cube, but with a hundred
Speaker 1: million in your backpack, you're fucking dead in the middle
Speaker 1: of the street. Real life is real life. I get it.
Speaker 1: Listen to my art whatever, and be influenced or be educated,
Speaker 1: But motherfucker, don't take some ship that is like I'm
Speaker 1: on a fucking record. You get me. You're watching the
Speaker 1: movie and it might say true life story, and most
Speaker 1: of the time when it's true life, it don't end
Speaker 1: up in the fucking fairy tale. So learn from this ship.
Speaker 1: And like you said, as a youth, motherfucker you just
Speaker 1: got as a kid. We gotta be able to direct
Speaker 1: our kids in a different fashion. And like I said,
Speaker 1: I was one of them lost kids too. In the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: My father wasn't sucking around. I had a single parent.
Speaker 1: My mom went to work at eleven o'clock at night
Speaker 1: to seven o'clock in the morning. We used to have
Speaker 1: a fucking ball at my career. And I was fucking fifteen,
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, So I was one of them lost
Speaker 1: kids too. Out in the street. You know, joining the
Speaker 1: gang because but then I still was one of my
Speaker 1: fucker's who was able to differentiate and know that I
Speaker 1: wanted something better. You get me. A lot of us
Speaker 1: don't make it out of that because some of us
Speaker 1: don't get the opportunity. Rap was my opportunity. Fuck it well,
Speaker 1: I think James right, there's a lot of weak money
Speaker 1: people out there that some people are just easier influencing
Speaker 1: other people. So definitely there's a lot of motherfucker's that's
Speaker 1: followers and want to be loan. We've got you got
Speaker 1: even even the police they're finding a way through rap
Speaker 1: music to convict you. They're finding a way in your
Speaker 1: video to convict you. Or you got guns and money,
Speaker 1: they're coming to take your ass to jail. That's the
Speaker 1: that's the dumb ship nowadays, that doing like our ship was.
Speaker 1: I don't know, we didn't do that ship back in
Speaker 1: our days. But like I said, now you've got access
Speaker 1: to the internet and social media, it's wide open. You
Speaker 1: get me. So now you got dudes who feel like,
Speaker 1: fucking I'm gonna post my guns and we're standing on
Speaker 1: this block and we over here and over here. It's
Speaker 1: just an easy way for the motherfucking police to be like,
Speaker 1: oh there they go, go get them. Now. I know
Speaker 1: a g I know a gang of niggas like that
Speaker 1: right now, youngsters, though you give me so how do
Speaker 1: you educate? You gotta tell them, motherfucker's that ain't the
Speaker 1: way to go. I don't give a funk what you're
Speaker 1: seeing or you thinking, or getting money or whatever. That
Speaker 1: ship is. Nine times out of ten, that ship gets
Speaker 1: you dead or locked the funk up. And if you
Speaker 1: have a vision of trying to be somebody one day,
Speaker 1: because motherfucker, I'm telling you, don't let it be prisoned
Speaker 1: that you'd be sitting in and then fifteen years later
Speaker 1: you go, oh yeah, man, I should have fucking you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Now is your opportunity because before
Speaker 1: some ship goes down and you sink into that pitfall,
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to to open up your brain
Speaker 1: to understand that, yeah we are. I struggle like a
Speaker 1: motherfucker as a kid coming up. My mama, my mama
Speaker 1: was one of them, you know, mama, single mama, you know,
Speaker 1: food stamps sometimes and that type of ship. It was
Speaker 1: hard growing up in Compton as a single parent with
Speaker 1: motherfucking man. But you you you, I had a mom
Speaker 1: who always stayed on a nigger. That's what happened for me.
Speaker 1: You get me. I don't give for how old I
Speaker 1: got till I was in the house. I got threatened
Speaker 1: with fucking beatens and whoopings and phone stone at your
Speaker 1: motherfucking head and all type of ships. So you you
Speaker 1: have to you have to have somebody in your motherfucking
Speaker 1: corner too. Also, we did an interview with you for
Speaker 1: that's posted on the Digital soapbas Network, and we learned
Speaker 1: that your your parents are married. Even though they divorced
Speaker 1: at the same point, you still had your father in
Speaker 1: your life. And half the brothers in Compton don't don't
Speaker 1: even know who their father. I even though my parents
Speaker 1: divorced and my father moved away, I still feared my
Speaker 1: fucking father. He could get on the phone and call
Speaker 1: me and I get terrified. So I still had that
Speaker 1: fear because he was in the house when us with
Speaker 1: us before they separated, and my mom's had to do
Speaker 1: everything on her own. But and he was in fucking
Speaker 1: Oklahoma somewhere. But he's still instilled in me some kind
Speaker 1: of fatherhood type of ship to where I felt threatened
Speaker 1: if I did something wrong, And even though I was
Speaker 1: out there trying to gang bang, you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: give a funk. But let him call and find out.
Speaker 1: Oh uh, Mom saw me on the corner with the
Speaker 1: rag in my back pocket and hanging with like five
Speaker 1: or six dudes, and ship, I get a call when
Speaker 1: I get home, and it'd be murder. I think I
Speaker 1: canna come out there and fuck you up. Did your
Speaker 1: mom ever want to send you to Oklahoma? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went fucking moms didn't play. But my father was
Speaker 1: one of them, you know, one of them dudes was
Speaker 1: you know, Army went to Vietnam type of ship, so
Speaker 1: he he was kind of he was kind of fucked up.
Speaker 1: So I think I was in Oklahoma for about three
Speaker 1: months and I was like, man, if you're give me
Speaker 1: the funk about of here, you don't get me the
Speaker 1: funk up out of here, man, this motherfucker. Man. I
Speaker 1: love my post to death, rest in peace. But I
Speaker 1: was like, Mom, if you don't send me a plane
Speaker 1: ticket tomorrow, are you? Was telling Mom, I'm gonna change.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be everything you wanted. Man, get me the
Speaker 1: funk up out of here. So, like I said, you
Speaker 1: just have to have somebody in your corner. And luckily
Speaker 1: for me, I had a strong moms, even though she
Speaker 1: was a single parent. You know, we was out there
Speaker 1: gang banging like a motherfucking me and chill the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: be like, Liz, I saw your son on the corner
Speaker 1: with them dudes, and whoop the whoop is he would
Speaker 1: my mom be like my son on gang bang? I
Speaker 1: think I'll be walking in the house with the hood
Speaker 1: hit up all on my sweatshirt and all kind of
Speaker 1: my son don't gang bang. It was just a way
Speaker 1: of life for us, man. I mean that's what you did.
Speaker 1: I wasn't on sports. Motherfucker. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: And I didn't start rapping until I was about seventeen eighteen.
Speaker 1: So from thirteen until then, all I knew was gang banging.
Speaker 1: That's it. I didn't know ship else. That's it. How's
Speaker 1: your music changed because you just put out an album
Speaker 1: when you go twenty years ago now or do you
Speaker 1: feel like you're still the same. We we try to,
Speaker 1: like I said, I try to evolve, you know, grow
Speaker 1: up as a as a father with with daughters and
Speaker 1: the fucking son and you know, being able to move
Speaker 1: out of Compton and be in a different situation. Uh,
Speaker 1: my music, you know, it stays on the same track because,
Speaker 1: let's face it, you cannot forget the fans who get
Speaker 1: you to a certain point. I mean, motherfucker's I grew
Speaker 1: up with is my fans. My age limit is my fans.
Speaker 1: They love my music. They still want me to do
Speaker 1: records like music to dry buying songs like that. And
Speaker 1: I try to explain to them today, man, the age
Speaker 1: I am. You want me to rap about drive by
Speaker 1: Ms Daisy and hitting the corner with an A K
Speaker 1: forty seven and ship like that? I said, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't rap about ship like that no more. But
Speaker 1: I can rap about what I feel is situations that
Speaker 1: still going on as far as with niggas who still
Speaker 1: stuck in the hood or you know, the poverty, or
Speaker 1: motherfucker's just trying to get ahead or just trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, represent the West Coast with my music into
Speaker 1: an influential way that it's still trying to stick on
Speaker 1: the lines of representing content. But it ain't so it
Speaker 1: ain't so fucking The Tale of the heartbroken, lost, innocent
Speaker 1: adolescent young gang banging niggers in the hood. You get
Speaker 1: me like there's no future with us. Everything is you know,
Speaker 1: yes to still struggle out there, but we can't take
Speaker 1: it on like you know, innocence lost in the hood
Speaker 1: with no fathers around, So we gotta walk around with
Speaker 1: with with with guns all day and protect the neighborhood
Speaker 1: and this funk everybody and it's nothing but the hood.
Speaker 1: And you gotta show to you because, like I said,
Speaker 1: I got a son, So I can't be rapping about
Speaker 1: a k and niggas up and hitting the block with
Speaker 1: with cavvy and my sock and ship like that and
Speaker 1: running from the police because I don't want him to
Speaker 1: get influenced by that. So you just try to make
Speaker 1: your music in a way that your old fans can
Speaker 1: respect it and then the new motherfucker's who are listening
Speaker 1: to music today can adapt to it into what is
Speaker 1: going on today. So you just said that it's not
Speaker 1: that influential, but at the same time, you don't want
Speaker 1: to influencing your son exactly, I can't. I mean, you
Speaker 1: have to show people that you can be you know,
Speaker 1: as a father. You you have to be able to
Speaker 1: balance it. You give mo what I'm saying because I
Speaker 1: want to remain true to my fans who got me
Speaker 1: to this point where I am. But like I said,
Speaker 1: I can't funk around and give them music to drive
Speaker 1: by you give me now. I can give you music
Speaker 1: on the line of where it's still a struggle and
Speaker 1: niggas are still stuck in the neighborhood. But I can't
Speaker 1: show you that I am still one of them dudes
Speaker 1: that it is influenced by like the Rag, the A
Speaker 1: K and all that ship because I grew up now
Speaker 1: you get me. Definitely. I think you could say you've
Speaker 1: evolved exactly. Music has to evolve with your men. You
Speaker 1: have to be able to balance it out. Like I said,
Speaker 1: you know for the motherfucker's who loved you when you
Speaker 1: first started into the new motherfucker's who are listening to
Speaker 1: your music and go, okay, well ship, who is this motherfucker?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And if what's going on nowadays,
Speaker 1: like we can't do that ship because you could lose
Speaker 1: your family. And yeah, like the way Hammer did when
Speaker 1: he wanted to go gangster man, motherfucker you put on
Speaker 1: pants and you better dance for us. That's what got him. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear no motherfucker you better not
Speaker 1: come out no khaki suit talking about riding in the
Speaker 1: sixth four and all that ship or see him in
Speaker 1: the speed though I know sitting in the pool. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you gett't to order, that's when you just gotta
Speaker 1: buy out. Fuck it. I mean, if you buy out
Speaker 1: with that good record, don't buy out trying to be
Speaker 1: somebody you ain't, just to ease the motherfucker' it's the transition.
Speaker 1: Like me, I'm not gonna color my hair like a
Speaker 1: rainbow and god what, that's what they're doing, So fuck it,
Speaker 1: I might as well do that ship too, because I
Speaker 1: gotta be on the funk that man. If If a
Speaker 1: motherfucker who don't like me from back then and don't
Speaker 1: like the pattern of what I'm doing, that's when it's
Speaker 1: just time to buy all gracefully, because you can't do
Speaker 1: what the other motherfucker's do. You don't want to be
Speaker 1: no follower funk that all right? Let me tell everybody
Speaker 1: where they can find us at James McDonald's on Facebook.
Speaker 1: And I know James McDonald's a common name, but he's
Speaker 1: the one with the Red Harley and the profile picture.
Speaker 1: And you could also hit James on Instagram at B
Speaker 1: I G G J thirty six thirty six and he
Speaker 1: still has those shirts. James, give them the number for
Speaker 1: them shirts one more time, because I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: tell people twice on the shows, I had seventy calls.
Speaker 1: I sent out forty three shirts in a week. In
Speaker 1: a week just by saying the first five callers get
Speaker 1: a free shirt. So I wind up taking all of
Speaker 1: those defective shirts and giving them away. But and I'm i'm, I'm,
Speaker 1: I'm sending the posts some of them sending on them,
Speaker 1: sending me fifty bucks. No, I don't want to free
Speaker 1: I'm supporting. But at the end of the day, my
Speaker 1: receipt yesterday was a hundred and thirty eight bucks at
Speaker 1: the post office. Shipping costs just sipping. Man. All right,
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is you don't you don't want
Speaker 1: to know. Okay, they already they already got your number.
Speaker 1: And then you can find me Alex Alonso at Alex
Speaker 1: Alonso one zero one on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. You
Speaker 1: could also find me on street Gangs dot Com and
Speaker 1: on the platform street TV or maybe one day, I'll
Speaker 1: interview eight on Street TV and where can they find
Speaker 1: you at and get your latest album? You can hit
Speaker 1: me up on Instagram at eight oh eight eight Compton
Speaker 1: and you can hit up hit me up in the
Speaker 1: link and at a at you the latest album We
Speaker 1: got to c MW album right now, Gangster Business. You
Speaker 1: can also get that in the link or go follow
Speaker 1: the link in it to take you to the website
Speaker 1: Blue Stamp h blue Stamp Official dot com. And also
Speaker 1: let me remind people that they could watch video portions
Speaker 1: of this show on the Digital Soapbox Network that's on YouTube.
Speaker 1: And we also have our own Gangster Chronicles merchandise on
Speaker 1: that page as well. And don't forget to download the
Speaker 1: Himalaya app and you can also listen to the podcast
Speaker 1: with the Himalaya app just downloaded, and you could subscribe
Speaker 1: to the Gangster Chronicles through there. And eight. Where is
Speaker 1: the most interesting city, whether it's in the United States
Speaker 1: or abroad, that you performed at and that you you
Speaker 1: will you'll love to go back and visit it again.
Speaker 1: M hm. Honestly, ship Japan. I don't know what city,
Speaker 1: but every time we go to Japan, motherfucker. The fans
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Understand them. We usually have an interpreter, but
Speaker 1: as far as the fans at the concerts, they know
Speaker 1: all the words to your fucking songs, but when you
Speaker 1: get to talk and you don't know what the funk.
Speaker 1: We were talking on a previous episode, James about how
Speaker 1: the Japanese people are fascinated with l a gang culture.
Speaker 1: They called the low Riders about all the games, the
Speaker 1: low Riders from over here. And I remember the late
Speaker 1: eighties they was coming. They was coming from China, Japan,
Speaker 1: and it was buying all the little riders the cats
Speaker 1: had every when you go to a little rider show.
Speaker 1: They was coming up and they was buying five at
Speaker 1: a time. And when motherfucker's got upon it, they were
Speaker 1: selling their cards for eight all the neighborhood and started
Speaker 1: selling their cars. New York Cats was coming out of
Speaker 1: here buying three, four or five at a time. Oh,
Speaker 1: you could easily sell your ship fort Do you think
Speaker 1: that your Japanese fan base as a result that your
Speaker 1: music coming out in the late eighties or nineties, or
Speaker 1: just the genre of your music itself. Do you think
Speaker 1: the eighties is will kind of give that stamp to
Speaker 1: the eighties. I just a lot of my ship I
Speaker 1: credited to the UH, to the movie Minister Society going worldwide,
Speaker 1: and just for our culture. They like, they love our culture.
Speaker 1: I mean, you seem like if you go overseas to Europe,
Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of diverse. They like a lot
Speaker 1: of East Coast whatever it is. You know, sometimes a
Speaker 1: few West Coast artists, but when it comes to Japan,
Speaker 1: they love l a culture as far as the Raiders
Speaker 1: ship and the Low Riders and listening to Easy and
Speaker 1: Comptence most wanted in that time. They and I think
Speaker 1: that's just the nature of them being able to listen
Speaker 1: to West Coast Musich music over the years, and you know,
Speaker 1: se our difference in the way we be in our
Speaker 1: culture and the gang lifestyle and the ruggle and all that,
Speaker 1: and I think it's more fascinating to them. So they
Speaker 1: really love the ship that we do. I wonder if
Speaker 1: it's all the soldiers, the American soldiers that live over
Speaker 1: there in Okinawa and don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: their motherfucker's they love West Coast music. They love West
Speaker 1: Coast music, and you know, so you gotta appreciate them.
Speaker 1: And every time I go over there, you know, sold
Speaker 1: out shows. You know, they don't know every words to
Speaker 1: your song. They might can't speak a liquid English, but
Speaker 1: they know them rap songs like it ain't ship. I
Speaker 1: think the Japanese culture, out of all the different Asian
Speaker 1: groups there are, there's Korean, Chinese, I think the Japanese
Speaker 1: are the most open minded. You see a lot of
Speaker 1: Japanese dating black people, the Japanese that moved to the
Speaker 1: United States, and it does kind of make sense that
Speaker 1: they would be big fans of hip hop. Definitely. Alright,
Speaker 1: so uh before we wrap it up, um, just give
Speaker 1: us uh the information again where all your fans can
Speaker 1: check out your music. They can check us out on
Speaker 1: my page is eight Compton on inch the gram you
Speaker 1: can check us out at you can need to check
Speaker 1: us out on my page on Chills page Chill or
Speaker 1: CMW the Boomdocks. We got a blue stamp Official which
Speaker 1: is the website. Uh, merchandise on that. We got merchandise,
Speaker 1: We got hats, we got CDs, we got everything cracking.
Speaker 1: So uh going near order up some ship. I mean
Speaker 1: the new records is out. I got a record getting
Speaker 1: ready to drop called Official. Chills, got a project getting
Speaker 1: ready to drop called foehead. Um. We're working on some
Speaker 1: other stuff. Like I said, we got a conference most
Speaker 1: wanted record we just dropped called Gangster Business. So we're
Speaker 1: just trying to move still keeping a gangsters. There's somebody
Speaker 1: that's trolling on every video that I put out on
Speaker 1: street TV about get M album. Is every video I
Speaker 1: think I've seen a couple of This guy hits my
Speaker 1: channel up at least like ten times per interview. That's true.
Speaker 1: That that's a true fan. Yeah, he's really pushing you
Speaker 1: whoever that that's that's a true fan. I eat it
Speaker 1: right there, definitely, all right, So he's still keeping it
Speaker 1: um Gangster Blue Stamp Official the website Blue Stamp. Blue
Speaker 1: Stamp Official is the website, and we're about to start
Speaker 1: this podcast. To man, it's coming. So yeah, we're about
Speaker 1: to do that. It's called staff Spot Radio. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna get that cracking um probably in the next month
Speaker 1: or two. We're just trying to put it together right now.
Speaker 1: So we we got a lot of things coming, man.
Speaker 1: We got more stuff coming in just music, man, we
Speaker 1: got a lot more to offer. What kind of what
Speaker 1: kind of content you gonna have on your part. Now
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about you know, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: hip hop pass and presents. We're gonna be talking about
Speaker 1: you know, hip hop news. We're gonna be talking about
Speaker 1: health and hip hop and and find and financial ship
Speaker 1: and and you know health. I gotta do that, be
Speaker 1: in the in the gym all the time, trying to
Speaker 1: put you down on the health and the good eating
Speaker 1: ship and spots where to eat at black owned businesses
Speaker 1: in the city that we funk with, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to just give people an insight on something different than
Speaker 1: just rap music. You know what I'm saying. Real quick,
Speaker 1: real quick, before we wrap it up. You mentioned earlier
Speaker 1: everyone that comes into the game is gonna get ripped
Speaker 1: off at some point in the beginning. How do we
Speaker 1: avoid that for the future artists that young late teens
Speaker 1: coming into the game, or is that just inevitable. Every
Speaker 1: artist that's new is gonna get ripped off. I mean
Speaker 1: in my days now now nowadays the game is wide open,
Speaker 1: so you can prevent some of those pitfalls because a
Speaker 1: lot of dudes can control all their own ship right now.
Speaker 1: But back in my days, in order for you to
Speaker 1: get on, you have to go through somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: so either dude signed you the production deals or management
Speaker 1: deals or whatever, and you never got the right accounting
Speaker 1: on royalties. You never got to You know. We were
Speaker 1: young naive cats, you know. And I could say that
Speaker 1: for myself. I was the young naive motherfucker. I was
Speaker 1: seventeen years old when I signed a major label deal,
Speaker 1: you know, And I supposed to you you couldn't have
Speaker 1: your parents permission. You have to have your parents permission
Speaker 1: to sign the deal. I didn't do that. I signed
Speaker 1: a fucking record deal. I didn't give a fuck, but
Speaker 1: I signed a production deal. What I known. You know,
Speaker 1: he knew that ship and we got fucked. Period. Now
Speaker 1: do you guys own all of Comfortence? Most wanted those
Speaker 1: four albums? Those are owned by Epic because we were,
Speaker 1: like I said, we were young naive kid. We didn't
Speaker 1: know ship about publishing and writers and all that motherfucker's
Speaker 1: was still in all that ship. We was just some
Speaker 1: young niggas from Campton who had dreams of riding in
Speaker 1: the fucking limo and putting a gold chain on our
Speaker 1: neck and doing a video. We didn't know the pitfalls
Speaker 1: and contracts and managers and publishing and splits and all that,
Speaker 1: and knowing that you get paid if you write your
Speaker 1: own motherfucking material because we was writing all on ship.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever wrote our own ship, but other motherfucker's was
Speaker 1: getting the publishing, So you'd have to buy your own
Speaker 1: music back from him if you wanted it. Yes, and
Speaker 1: that's the probably. It's not even an offering, definitely not.
Speaker 1: Why would they do that. We're making, motherfucker we get
Speaker 1: the motherfucking licensed this ship out and do all this
Speaker 1: other ship. So do you think that ownership of someone
Speaker 1: else's art should expire after a while, even though you
Speaker 1: know they did do I'm sure they did a lot
Speaker 1: of things for your career, but at some point should
Speaker 1: that ownership expiring and go back to the original artists?
Speaker 1: I feel, especially if you write and everything, you should
Speaker 1: have ownership of your ship. Like you didn't write this ship,
Speaker 1: you didn't produce the music. So why should just the
Speaker 1: motherfucker who basically is giving you a loan or an
Speaker 1: investment because they won't they returned, right, So why should
Speaker 1: they be able to declare eighty percent of your fucking,
Speaker 1: your fucking art or your work. Okay, you give me
Speaker 1: an investment, not pay you back. Now you want to
Speaker 1: control of the funds, and that's forever, right, like y'ad
Speaker 1: damn some of them is, you know, forever. Some motherfucker's
Speaker 1: may cut you a deal seven years or eight years
Speaker 1: or whatever. But still, like, why should you get to
Speaker 1: collect money off of the ship? I thought up in
Speaker 1: the wrote like that's crazy. Take your investment back or
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then let's go from there. But a
Speaker 1: lot of us ain't smart, like I said, a lot
Speaker 1: of us just had dreams of trying to make it
Speaker 1: and get out, you know, so we didn't have the
Speaker 1: knowledge to get managers or lawyers or motherfucker's in our corner.
Speaker 1: It was like steying on the dotted line. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: like a motherfucker's saying, here go your forty ounce and
Speaker 1: your gold chain. Nigger, here come to limol around the
Speaker 1: corner and they can take your ride around the corner.
Speaker 1: They you made it, and we was like fuck yeah.
Speaker 1: We didn't start learning about the business and publishing and
Speaker 1: ship till after, Like you said, we're still sitting at
Speaker 1: motherfucking home and got three fucking albums out and touring
Speaker 1: the fucking country and shipping, and we were getting off
Speaker 1: the plane, we're going back to mom's house, pulling up
Speaker 1: in the garage. Something the funk ain't right, especially when
Speaker 1: the nigga righting. I'm writing all my fucking own music.
Speaker 1: So why ain't we getting them hundred thousand dollar advances
Speaker 1: and them two hundred and fifty dollars. That's because another
Speaker 1: nigga was collecting it. Another motherfucker collecting the money and
Speaker 1: pocketing in and here go, Hey, take this three grand,
Speaker 1: take this four grand. But ship to a young hustler
Speaker 1: who on the block every fucking day, Nigga, folk grand, Nigga, Please,
Speaker 1: I'm not to swap me with khakis and white teas. Nigga,
Speaker 1: give me a couple of packs to flip. Nigga, rent
Speaker 1: me a cluck car ship for about sixty piece a night.
Speaker 1: Nig I'm on you was actually wearing house shoes on
Speaker 1: one of your videos. I was shopping at the swap
Speaker 1: me mall. Look at that ship costs a hundred two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for some ship. If we don't go get
Speaker 1: you some motherfucking you, don't go get you some cortels,
Speaker 1: a couple of pair of khakis, some a pack of
Speaker 1: white teas and maybe maybe, and now you was bawling
Speaker 1: if you was able to get you a hoodie too,
Speaker 1: But usually you got your motherfucking couple of packs of
Speaker 1: white tease, a couple of pair of khakis, get you
Speaker 1: some of them cortess and maybe a cap and nigga,
Speaker 1: you nigga that sid sneake skin belt nigging you in, Nigga,
Speaker 1: that's the most expensive. What about the silk shirt? We wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't affordable. Man, You gotta manage cause, nigga, you
Speaker 1: still you still gotta get you a sack now too.
Speaker 1: You gotta get you a little nickel bag or something.
Speaker 1: And then for us who was on the block, we
Speaker 1: got to get a fifty pack. Nigga. That wasn't. That wasn't. Man.
Speaker 1: When you're working with limited funds, there's certain ships you
Speaker 1: gotta do. So you have to follow that colde. Nigga.
Speaker 1: Can you stretch a double up into a triple up?
Speaker 1: If you cut it right, and you you're gonna be
Speaker 1: You're gonna be out all night. Yeah, because you're gonna be.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be sitting up in the car or somewhere
Speaker 1: on the nigger it's gonna be cold. It's motherfuck about
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning. But you know somebody coming through.
Speaker 1: Remember when you're coming, they're coming. I don't give a
Speaker 1: funk they coming. I don't give a damn. It might
Speaker 1: be six of us on the block, but fucking nigga,
Speaker 1: we're rushing the car. Whoever got the goods, he gonna
Speaker 1: choose and pick and nigger. That's it now. I remember
Speaker 1: in the late eighties, if you had an ounce, you
Speaker 1: might have paid five hundred four and the and the
Speaker 1: goal was who can cut who can cut more than
Speaker 1: a thousand out of it? Who can get eleven? Who
Speaker 1: can get twelve? And if you if you was a
Speaker 1: master with that razor blade, and that's that's daddy, that's
Speaker 1: rich right there. Richard was mastered with that razor blade.
Speaker 1: That montherfuck cut it down the motherfucking thirteen thousand pieces. Ever,
Speaker 1: we're coming down thousand pieces of a man. All nickels,
Speaker 1: they can fuck my nigga, want the full fucking extent
Speaker 1: of that motherfucking double up. I'm fucking cutting this motherfucking
Speaker 1: this ounce all the way. I'm gonna be here from
Speaker 1: motherfucker and four o'clock in the afternoon to tomorrow. You
Speaker 1: can probably get out of the ounce cutting all Nichols
Speaker 1: and if you're gonna sell them, fucking they're gonna come through.
Speaker 1: You just gonna be there all fucking night, all right,
Speaker 1: m C We're gonna be looking out for stash Spot Radio. Indeed, James,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna check it out. We appreciate you coming
Speaker 1: against Chronicle all day. Man, you know it's been a minute.
Speaker 1: You know, people have been asking me to come through.
Speaker 1: So Ship, I'm like, fun it, let's do it, man. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm we'll be moving man. I'm what it is. Man.
Speaker 1: I've been coaching football, man for the last fucking but
Speaker 1: ten years. So when you're working with kids and football
Speaker 1: and schedules and you're the head coach and you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta be at the park at five o'clock till
Speaker 1: nine o'clock at night, and then you gotta travel and
Speaker 1: then you got thirty kids on the team, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. But that was something that I started doing.
Speaker 1: So it was taking a lot of my time because
Speaker 1: I was like music. Ship was still there, but niggas
Speaker 1: was letting other niggas do what they do because music
Speaker 1: just started turning crazy for a minute, so I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something else for a minute. So having
Speaker 1: a son and him coming up and started playing football
Speaker 1: since he was five years old, that was something I
Speaker 1: got into. So that took a lot of my time.
Speaker 1: But I hooked up with my men Big Steal, and uh,
Speaker 1: we just started getting the cracking from there. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna do Stash spot Radio and he got me to
Speaker 1: come up here and do Gangster Chronicles and I did
Speaker 1: Still in the Spotlight. So I'm just trying to get
Speaker 1: out there and get it moving. Yeah, that's Still in
Speaker 1: the Spotlight is right now on the Digital Soapbox Network.
Speaker 1: So after you finished listening and watching this episode, go
Speaker 1: check out that episode of m C eight as well.
Speaker 1: And on that note, we're out