WEBVTT - "Straight Up Menace" The MC EIHT Episode 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.320 You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, REXI, 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:08.200 Rei Jr. And Alex Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.600 material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a hang 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.920 gun and um they believe this might be in retaliation 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:25.200 to our testimony. Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.479 Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening wherever you may 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:30.560 be listening from. You're listening to Alex Alonso from Street 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.080 Gangs dot Com a k a. Street TV and I'm 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.319 here with my co host James McDonald. Yes, and this 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.199 is episode forty three. 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And uh we we can't not just you know, 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:47.840 acknowledge one of the biggest tragedies in sports history, especially 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:51.560 for Los Angeles man, one of the greatest to ever 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:56.200 do it. If anybody came close to Michael Jordan's, uh, 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.880 it's Kobe Bryant. And sometimes even say some can go 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.040 and say maybe he was a little better than Jordan's. 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.560 A lot of people got their opinions. Yeah, I wouldn't 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.520 say that, but he was a hell of a player. 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.120 Well you know, um, Jordan was always surrounded by a 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.360 hell of a cast, so it's kind of hard to compare, 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.959 you know. And and and Kobe came right out of 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.080 high school, straight out of high school, eighteen years old 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.720 playing with big boys. He definitely did it. He definitely 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.000 did it. So, I mean, you know, I just I 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.640 just think it's sad we don't know when we're going. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.839 We don't know our time man and going to take 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.600 his daughter too. That that that really you know, hit on. 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:36.520 You know, it really pissed me off about that. Thing 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.240 is you know how the news is always so quick 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.519 to be the first ones to beat everyone else to 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.119 the story, and the process of doing that, they threw 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:47.000 Rick Fox under the bus. Oh yeah, we heard Rick Fox. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.120 We heard a couple of you know, a couple of 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.160 tales out there. You know, they just wanted to be 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.440 the first ones with the story, y'all believe, So you know, 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.880 news team's gonna report whatever it is first hand so 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:58.880 they can be the first jump on it. Did you 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.200 hear Rick Fox telling us story that his phone started 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.920 blowing up and everybody who loved him was like, what 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.880 I mean, can you imagine what if they were going through? 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:08.880 I don't look I don't look at TV like y'all do. 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:14.520 I only watch Western, so so I didn't know. Somebody 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:18.480 showing me a little clip about one one h lady 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:23.079 anchor and she was like the nigger. Oh yeah. I 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:26.000 was like, wow, did she really say that ship? She 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.400 really didn't say it? Yeah, And that just lets you 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:33.359 know what people really at man, Yeah, exactly did you 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.240 I heard it? You know a lot of people have 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:40.680 disputes about it, saying that she mixed Lakers with the 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:44.360 knicker Bockers. So that's how it came about to be names. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.480 You know, Look, that's her story. You can't mix that, 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.400 you know what. I listened to it about eight times 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.800 just to see if there was an explanation that would 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.160 sit well with men. I couldn't find one. No, not 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.280 at that's that's yeah. They'll tell us she makes nicker 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.480 Nick's with the Lakers and came up with Nickers. All right, 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:07.040 Can we all start off with a Kobe Bryant memory? Thought, like, James, 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:12.360 I mean not just the sixty points, I mean when 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.840 you watch him, I mean you got a lot of memories. 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.400 I mean his dunks, you know, just you know him 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.719 and shock the ship they did on on court, you know, 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.080 and then you know, I didn't like the paul out 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.920 between them two, and you know, you watch all that 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.400 ship and then you're like typical us that fall out 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.960 costing some rings, but it's typical. I think they could 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.360 have got at least another two. At least they could 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.000 have got three more. Hey, what's uh, what's the Kobe 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:43.679 Bryant memory? Uh? My memories of Kobe is just being 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.320 able to, you know, bring championships back to l A. 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.280 Seeing the drop we had for a while. You know, 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.320 we had some good players that came through, but we 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.840 just couldn't get over that hump until we got Kobe 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.440 and Shocked together. So that that was a big contribution 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.080 to you know, the Lakers getting back on track with 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.520 the championships. What we've known for Well, how much do 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.760 you credit do you give to Phil Jackson? Because Kobe 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.120 and Shaq got together in ninety six? They didn't win 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:14.520 a ring until Phil Jackson came and they needed that. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.919 They needed that veteran leadership, you know what I'm saying, Uh, 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.480 who else was it before them? Uh? The day all 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.560 or whoever he was the coach was before him. They 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.440 just need they just needed that veteran leadership, you know, 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.839 with him being over at the Bulls and having that 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.760 experience of how to run a team like that. We're 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.440 having so many high profiles, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.000 So when he came in, he was able to tone 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.640 it down a little bit, get everybody on one track, right, 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.560 That's what I was gonna say. He was able to 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.400 balance the two amount, you know what I'm saying, got 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.920 to be able to buy into the program, so to speak. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.480 So he got them all to buy in. But funny 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.040 you said we had a drought. It was from eighty 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:57.120 eight to two thousand. A city like without championship for 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.760 twelve years is usually not considered a drought. But for 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.039 l A, we're expecting him every year exactly. I mean, 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.640 you know with the Lakers and then with football and 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.480 all that, we're just known for winning the Dodgers all that, 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:13.680 So to be without championships is hartful. You know, the 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.719 Dodgers and the Lakers both ones indeed, and the Dodgers 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.240 ain't won one since well, actually, let's say they did. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:23.919 They just got cheated at it two maybe exactly. We 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.800 had to. We had the Billy Check videos going on 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.880 in the baseball scam, so we had that going on. 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.359 So it probably cost us a couple of championships on 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.840 that level too. Yeah, let's they cheated us at the 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.920 two of the championship I just want to do a 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.080 quick fact check from last episode. I mentioned this brother 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.880 that was skateboarding from Long Beas, but I couldn't get 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:48.520 his name. Terry Kennedy from Long Beach tern Pro and 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.559 uh actually had a reality show on BT called Being 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.840 Terry Kennedy. He's one of the first black dudes. It's 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.280 the black skateboard Yeah. I don't know if anyone predates him. 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.080 I don't want to say he's the first black dude 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.240 to go pro, but the first one that I've seen 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:08.760 skateboard on the skateboarding yeah, do skateboards? That what you 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.840 got to say? He's not what? Oh yeah, he's definitely 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:13.920 not the first, but he's the first one that I 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.960 was exposed to. Terry Kennedy got shot in two thousand 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:19.600 five in the face. You know, grew up in the 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.480 hood and Long Beach and who would have thought a 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.120 brother like that from Long Beach returned pro skateboarding. Um, 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.400 so that's that's the guy's name that I couldn't remember. 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:31.560 Terry Kennedy. And James he was right on point last 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:35.000 week about that Double Jeopardy. Even though O. J. Simpson 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.720 got tried in criminal court was found not guilty, but 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.280 they tried him in civil court and found him well, 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:44.480 they don't use that terminology and civil they found him responsible, 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.280 you know. But here's here's the fifth. This is what 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.000 double jeopardy is. No person shall be subject for the 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.120 same offense to be put twice in jeopardy of life 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.600 for Limb. Now here's the trick thing to that offense 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.320 to some is considered something criminal. On when he went 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.440 to civil court, they weren't trying him for anything criminal. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.760 They were trying him for the wrongful death, which is 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.880 a civil matter. But some people say that's just a 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.040 tricky way to get around ship. But you can't. It's 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.760 the same ship. It's the same thing, terminology, different, same thing. Man, 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.200 If I got found not guilty for murder, how can 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.800 your parents or anybody else say you killed my kids 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.720 wrong for death and they won't assume me you can't 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:30.000 do that. But they did even like that, you feel me. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.640 So that's the first one I went through that It's 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.680 just it's just a loophole in the system. It only 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.240 happened with rich people, man, And some people don't look 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.280 at it this double jeopardy and say, well, double jeopardy 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.400 could only be criminal like he can never he can 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.959 never be tried for anything criminal together, Like he can 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.160 go on TV and say I did kill her and 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:57.000 they can't try umph criminal. But the civil thing is 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.120 a little different. But a lot of people, a lot 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.720 of even legal expert come if they if they found 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.720 him not guilty, so how can you go They're going 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.480 here and the civil and say, uh, we know you 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.520 did it. What proof do they have he did it 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.200 if you got found not guilty. To me, it's just 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.439 a way for them to take your bread you have. 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.960 Some people say it ain't about the money. Some people 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.880 want to do that civil because it's a way for 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:31.560 them to get that feeling of you being convicted guilty, 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:36.720 even though they said in the criminal law he wasn't guilty. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.000 A lot of cases when his high profile celebrities, they 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.000 usually turned around and do civil cases because and then 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.040 they'll turn around and say, well, it's not about the money. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.120 To some it's a way of being able to get 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:54.079 some kind of verdict to say this motherfucker has something 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:59.679 to do. Period. I just need something because when a 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.040 mother fuck go he's not guilty in front of the 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.719 world and the cameras and all that the motherfucker's just 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.080 sitting over there like fuck. So now I gotta be 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:14.199 able to do something to feel like I gotta get that. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.680 I gotta get something that lets the world, because you know, 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:19.480 half for the world is out there ready to tear 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.280 it up because the motherfucker's found out guilty. So now 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.600 let's go try him in civil case. Take his money. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.520 Say it ain't about his money. Say it's about just 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.160 saying the fact that he had something to do with it. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.400 That's it. So to some of some kind of justification, 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.640 like you said. But I think also they want to punish. 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:39.880 The family wants him punished, and I gotta punish this 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.120 motherfucker's some kind of way. So fuck it. If you 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.360 got money, I'm gonna take your money. Just because the 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.560 family believed that he did it. It's not enough to 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.840 say we're want fifty million dollars. I believe that too. 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.360 If you found that guilty of the criminal case, how 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.800 can you turn it around? It soon be for buddy 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:00.040 and the civil case and they go, okay, yeah, you 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.680 had something to do with it. How I just was 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:06.480 acquitted of murder. So you mean to tell me you 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.000 can go around and go funck that, Yeah, I believe 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.760 he has something to do it. And in any fucking 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:16.920 high profile conviction, when motherfucker's feel they wrong nine times 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.320 a teen, what the fucking jury gonna do. They're gonna 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:23.440 award him that civil case because they don't happen as 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:30.319 to rich people. You don't know nobody around the corner 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.920 who killed your daughter in the accidental dry and he 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.520 get acquitted. You don't see a motherfucker going, yeah, I 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.280 take you the motherfucker civil court. I'm gonna take your 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.760 low rider or your dope spot fucking I'm gonna do 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.920 all that. But you know what, they should do it 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:46.680 because you never know when someone might come up on 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.040 the lottery or something. Because you have that judgment there, 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.160 that's forever. That's what you have, that judgment there, that's forever. 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:54.720 And then all of a sudden, ten years later he 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.320 came across fifty million. Boom that right off the top 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.319 to whoever did do that. But you're right, no one's 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:07.400 thinking like this, dude, Yeah all right, but you you 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.720 was on point though on that double jeopardy. Most people believe, 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.600 even though it's civil cord, that is still a violation 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.040 of double jeopardy. All right, And the last thing I 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.679 wanted to fact check was you. You asked an interesting 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:23.000 question about does alcohol affect the sperm count and men 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.319 when they're trying to get women pregnant. We were talking 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.240 about marijuana, but then you said what about drinking? And 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.520 I don't know it does actually Listen to this, five 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.840 five or more drinks in a two hour period will 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.800 have a direct and negative effect on your sperm count, 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.439 and fourteen drinks within a one week period will lawyer 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:45.000 testosterone and lawerr sperm. Well, let me tell you something 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:46.959 when back in the days when I was drinking that 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:51.160 that that Supercyco and gin. I think all my kids 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.600 came around the same time. So because they had you strong, 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.839 you was off that ship. Christian, I don't know what 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:04.760 showed you when well that it's pretty unanimous and all 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.920 the medical journals that you don't want to be impregnant 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:14.040 aty woman on Hennessey that that much like I said, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.800 like he said in our era, that that might have 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.480 not happened because a lot of kids was conceived off 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:23.760 of some some some some some eight ball and some 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.480 Christian brothers. I'm telling you all right, so let's get 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.600 into it. Eight man, you're the guests, You're the man 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.360 of the hour. James, you want to start it off, 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.520 go ahead? I mean I got to say, go ahead. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.560 You against the rapper. There's no way around it. Listening 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.480 to your first few albums when you was with Constant 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:45.040 most wanted check this out. A lot of people say 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.000 the history of gangster rapping l A goes back to 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.719 n w A or Iced Tea, But I'm gonna go 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.400 out on a limb and say, gangster rap started from 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.920 a dude from your neighborhood. Gangster rap started with Toddy 0:13:56.000 --> 0:14:02.000 T and Nick mixed Map the Ken, then they they 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:09.720 started gangster ed te Iced Tea came around eighty seven 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.400 with Dog in the Wax You Don't Quit Um and rhymes. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:20.480 Uh yeah uh. Iced Tea was working with Unknown so 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:25.000 he was like label type of ship. Tott T and 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.200 them was straight T d K tapes in the garage. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.040 You know, we used to bottom motherfucker's for ten dollars 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:35.920 and ship, so to us, that was our rendition the 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.880 first gangster roup because you know Todd and Spade and 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.960 Ken and then they talked about the dope sales in 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.600 the hood. They talked about the raids. With the Battle Ram, 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.080 they talked about the clucks and the strawberries and ship. 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.560 They basically gave us the info as young Motherfucker's I 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.480 was a young dude. I was probably like nine ten, 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.840 So they gave us the info on was really going 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:02.880 on in the neighborhood. You know what I'm saying for 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.200 kids whose parents were still trying to keep them on 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.600 the ground and ship, you know, like my mom did 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:11.520 until I was about toy or thirteen. So yeah, was 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.840 more considered a one hit wonder. You don't remember the 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:18.840 Battle Ram song Ram that was gangster and that predates 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.840 pretty much all of the mainstream gangster wrap that put 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.040 l A and Compton on the map. Tom made it 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.480 as far as to what Epic he his single, I mean, 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.000 it went through the channels, It came from the mix 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.160 tapes in the street. Then he made it to an 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:36.040 independent label, Eve Gym, and then about a year later 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.280 Epic put his single out, the Battle Round. So if 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.360 there any other sort of rapper that was grapping that 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.560 gangster stuff that inspired Toddy T, or was that just 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.960 a Toddy T Hibben Spade mixed Master Spade. They was 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.680 like a crew that that's what it was Hibben Spade 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.360 and with Spade also from Track. Now Spade was from 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:59.680 where Uh yeah, so Spade was. But they just hooked 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.200 up and they, like I said, that was our first 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:06.600 introduction to gangster rap. And then from THEE and ship 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.280 all kinds of ship came along. Do you hear often 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.720 that that Track News is considered pretty much the history 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.120 of the foundation of the first gangster rap on wax 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.360 on record. I don't really hear people say that. I mean, 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.040 tyd t doesn't really get mentioned as often as I mean, 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.560 I think Todd is satisfied for what he did, as 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.960 far as Compton is conserved, as far as rapp is concerned, 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.640 because he knew he was like one of the godfathers 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.920 of comping gangster rap. Because Ice Tea gives credit to 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:41.240 uh Philly Rappern and SCHOOLI D for inspiring him. And 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.040 you know, I don't think I don't think I ever. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.440 I think Ice Tea came from New York. I think 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.520 so that would be his influence. It wouldn't be a 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:56.040 h young, you know, dope selling, you know, gang banging 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.760 nigga from Track New Park but was moved to l 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.320 A when he was at least twelve, but he but 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.159 to me he still had that New York influence and 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:09.040 his influence of coming up on gangster rap because ship 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.240 we listened to fucking school d d. He was gangster 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.000 rap to us though, you know so. But as far 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.879 as who we considered was our pioneer was Todd in Spade. 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:23.000 Now we were said gainst rap way back then, gainst 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.560 rep wouldn't like the rev we got today. No, this 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:29.600 gainst rap rapping and gainst repp is two different things. 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.840 And and what you heard them, dude, they were They 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:39.800 weren't talking about pulling up on the blocks. Todd and 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:44.000 them wasn't talking about drive bys and ship like that. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.480 They was basically just talking about what was going on 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:52.520 in any Nega neighborhood. Who was selling dough. Yeah, they 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:56.000 were talking to hustle and you know, the cluckheads, and 0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:00.720 we're trying to get money. And Compton City they they 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:05.200 never glory, They never spoke on being from trag new 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.560 They never did that because to me, they were smart. 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:15.080 They wanted to gather everybody crips bloods essays, we want 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:19.200 everybody in the city of Compton to float with our ship. 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.880 So we're not gonna say we're from trag New part 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.159 even though motherfucker's know where we're from, but we're not 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.760 gonna say that. That was something about what We didn't 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:31.119 have to do that. Even me as a rapper coming up, 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.640 I never had to say I was from trag New Park. 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:37.840 I didn't feel we needed to do that. We we 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:41.520 we we didn't feel we needed to glorify that ship 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.640 because for niggas who was really in the neighborhood every 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.040 day or on the block or was used to hanging 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.320 over there, we didn't feel we needed that type of identity. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.240 We wanted to be fucking. We didn't look at ourselves 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:57.000 as gangster rappers. Niggas was just rapping. We was just 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.600 rappling about what we was doing. Every day. We was 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.600 in an neighborhood, we was hanging out. Niggas was doing 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.480 dry bys and selling dope, and we was fucking hood rats. 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:12.560 And that's where we pretty much as everything. That's what 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.919 and on the ground out there, and for and for us, 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.600 we didn't want to We wanted that ship too. Niggas 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.560 knew where we was from, but we wanted to capture 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.520 every gangster. We wasn't after just man, we're just trying 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.440 to make music for the crips. We wasn't on that. 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.159 We want to fucking I want them niggas to like 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.600 my ship, the blood niggas, the hood niggas in Texas 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.280 and New York. And that's what we was looking for. 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.840 So back in our days, we didn't feel we had 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.760 to say, oh we was a crip or blood or 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.960 whatever whatever. But that's where rap is nowadays. You know, 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.600 a lot of niggas want to signify where they from. 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.320 You know, I get it, you know, because you want 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.960 to say it's toned down or whatever. I think it's 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:02.240 too late to to become like a straight gangster rapper 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:04.960 because all these little figures cats coming out of here 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.240 and they start making money now, they want to find 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:13.600 their hood to identify exactly. You gotta be like from 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.040 the ground up. You gotta be like in the field 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.720 already exactly. See. You know what it's like you you 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.000 all that game from the hood. You know what I'm saying. 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.639 So these little cats coming in here now today, and 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.520 this is what I'll be trying to get him to understand. Like, uh, 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.000 I don't even want to see his name. That's six 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.760 nine little cats. You know what I'm saying, You got 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:36.640 you got all these know I'm serious, you got all 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.560 of these these cats coming to the hood. But then 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:44.360 we let the men the hood, and then you find out, man, 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.119 what but for the money. Yeah, a lot of a 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.520 lot of niggers feel like, you know, get pressured into 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:54.119 that motherfucking position. And then a lot of dudes who 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:58.200 want to be authentic, so to speak, they try to 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:02.879 latch on to hurting dudes who might be affiliated or 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.199 have some kind of you know, they only gotta they 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.639 only they gotta work with the real. So some niggas 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.160 feel like, hey, maybe if I start hanging or pay 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:13.760 my way in or give niggas some ship, or buy 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:15.960 a couple of niggas and chains and put them on 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.520 the playroll, that gets me in. You know. That's that's 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.640 what the that's what the motto is today. I'm I'm 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.720 a I'm a firm believer that it don't work. But 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:27.920 you know, when you got a lot of brothers, that's 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.680 that's hanging on the block. Ain't doing ship going back 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.720 and forth to prison, And when the opportunity comes, it's 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:37.199 always opportunity ship jumping on it. But at the end 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.119 of the day, each and every last one of us 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.840 that dealt like that and brung a cat in like 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:45.000 that or somebody else. The short you always lose at 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:46.960 the end of the day. You know what I'm saying, 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:51.240 Letting people in your neighborhood, letting people be a part 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.920 of what you know, your bloodsho and tears. I know 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:59.040 what it was because for me and for niggas like 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:02.320 I grew up with it, getting into the gang means 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:04.560 you had to get your ass jumped in and put 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:06.960 in work. That's how you got into the game. It 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.639 wasn't about buying your way in or let me go 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:12.600