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Speaker 1: We gotta guess m C eight, what's up? You tell me? Man?

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Speaker 1: Just chilling? And uh we we can't not just you know,

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Speaker 1: acknowledge one of the biggest tragedies in sports history, especially

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Speaker 1: for Los Angeles man, one of the greatest to ever

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Speaker 1: do it. If anybody came close to Michael Jordan's, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's Kobe Bryant. And sometimes even say some can go

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Speaker 1: and say maybe he was a little better than Jordan's.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people got their opinions. Yeah, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say that, but he was a hell of a player.

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Speaker 1: Well you know, um, Jordan was always surrounded by a

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Speaker 1: you know. And and and Kobe came right out of

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Speaker 1: high school, straight out of high school, eighteen years old

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Speaker 1: playing with big boys. He definitely did it. He definitely

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Speaker 1: did it. So, I mean, you know, I just I

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Speaker 1: just think it's sad we don't know when we're going.

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Speaker 1: We don't know our time man and going to take

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Speaker 1: his daughter too. That that that really you know, hit on.

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Speaker 1: You know, it really pissed me off about that. Thing

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Speaker 1: is you know how the news is always so quick

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Speaker 1: to be the first ones to beat everyone else to

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Speaker 1: the story, and the process of doing that, they threw

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Speaker 1: Rick Fox under the bus. Oh yeah, we heard Rick Fox.

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Speaker 1: We heard a couple of you know, a couple of

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Speaker 1: tales out there. You know, they just wanted to be

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Speaker 1: the first ones with the story, y'all believe, So you know,

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Speaker 1: hear Rick Fox telling us story that his phone started

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Speaker 1: blowing up and everybody who loved him was like, what

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Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine what if they were going through?

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Speaker 1: I don't look I don't look at TV like y'all do.

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Speaker 1: I only watch Western, so so I didn't know. Somebody

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Speaker 1: showing me a little clip about one one h lady

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Speaker 1: anchor and she was like the nigger. Oh yeah. I

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Speaker 1: was like, wow, did she really say that ship? She

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Speaker 1: really didn't say it? Yeah, And that just lets you

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Speaker 1: know what people really at man, Yeah, exactly did you

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Speaker 1: I heard it? You know a lot of people have

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Speaker 1: disputes about it, saying that she mixed Lakers with the

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Speaker 1: You know, Look, that's her story. You can't mix that,

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Speaker 1: you know what. I listened to it about eight times

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Speaker 1: at that's that's yeah. They'll tell us she makes nicker

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Speaker 1: Nick's with the Lakers and came up with Nickers. All right,

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Speaker 1: Can we all start off with a Kobe Bryant memory? Thought, like, James,

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Speaker 1: I mean not just the sixty points, I mean when

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Speaker 1: I mean his dunks, you know, just you know him

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Speaker 1: Seeing the drop we had for a while. You know,

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Speaker 1: the championships. What we've known for Well, how much do

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Speaker 1: you credit do you give to Phil Jackson? Because Kobe

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Speaker 1: and Shaq got together in ninety six? They didn't win

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Speaker 1: So when he came in, he was able to tone

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Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. He was able to

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Speaker 1: balance the two amount, you know what I'm saying, got

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Speaker 1: to be able to buy into the program, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: So he got them all to buy in. But funny

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Speaker 1: you said we had a drought. It was from eighty

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Speaker 1: eight to two thousand. A city like without championship for

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Speaker 1: They just got cheated at it two maybe exactly. We

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Speaker 1: So it probably cost us a couple of championships on

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Speaker 1: quick fact check from last episode. I mentioned this brother

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Speaker 1: Terry Kennedy. He's one of the first black dudes. It's

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Speaker 1: skateboard on the skateboarding yeah, do skateboards? That what you

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Speaker 1: got to say? He's not what? Oh yeah, he's definitely

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Speaker 1: was exposed to. Terry Kennedy got shot in two thousand

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Speaker 1: so that's that's the guy's name that I couldn't remember.

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Speaker 1: Terry Kennedy. And James he was right on point last

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Speaker 1: week about that Double Jeopardy. Even though O. J. Simpson

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Speaker 1: they tried him in civil court and found him well,

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Speaker 1: they don't use that terminology and civil they found him responsible,

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Speaker 1: you know. But here's here's the fifth. This is what

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Speaker 1: double jeopardy is. No person shall be subject for the

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Speaker 1: same offense to be put twice in jeopardy of life

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Speaker 1: for Limb. Now here's the trick thing to that offense

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Speaker 1: to some is considered something criminal. On when he went

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Speaker 1: to civil court, they weren't trying him for anything criminal.

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Speaker 1: a civil matter. But some people say that's just a

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Speaker 1: the same ship. It's the same thing, terminology, different, same thing. Man,

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Speaker 1: If I got found not guilty for murder, how can

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Speaker 1: So that's the first one I went through that It's

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Speaker 1: just it's just a loophole in the system. It only

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Speaker 1: at it this double jeopardy and say, well, double jeopardy

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Speaker 1: I gotta get something that lets the world, because you know,

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Speaker 1: let's go try him in civil case. Take his money.

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Speaker 1: Say it ain't about his money. Say it's about just

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Speaker 1: saying the fact that he had something to do with it.

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Speaker 1: That's it. So to some of some kind of justification,

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Speaker 1: like you said. But I think also they want to punish.

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Speaker 1: The family wants him punished, and I gotta punish this

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Speaker 1: family believed that he did it. It's not enough to

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Speaker 1: say we're want fifty million dollars. I believe that too.

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Speaker 1: and the civil case and they go, okay, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: acquitted of murder. So you mean to tell me you

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Speaker 1: name on Wax, right, And I think that changed the game.

426
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it changed the game. I just think

427
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: it was, you know, something Quick wanted to do. I mean,

428
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean as far as if you look at after that,

429
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't think as far as we was concerned, we

430
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: still was on the same pattern. We still it didn't

431
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: start speaking about trag New and I mean maybe after

432
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: some dudes mighty start saying what street they was from

433
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: or grew up on or stuff like that. But but

434
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: you know that really just like I'm from tree Top

435
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: or trag New or I'm from the motherfucking this block

436
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: or that block. I think that started like down the

437
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: line something, you know what I'm saying. After after quick

438
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: and after a lot of dudes, Snoop was started mentioning

439
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: twenty one three. But if you notice, Snoop didn't do

440
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: a lot of that too in the beginning. But then,

441
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: you know, like some dudes just it just it just

442
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 1: started to transition. Fucking Oh did I hear him? Oh

443
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: he said he was from so and so. Well, fuck it,

444
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: now I'm from a fucking street. Or then next thing,

445
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: you know, my nigga game came along and it was

446
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: Cedar Block. And then next thing, you know, you know,

447
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: y g and it was Tree Top and it was

448
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: four hundred block. And then everybody's you know, fuck it,

449
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna represent my neighborhood. Fuck it. And I think

450
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: Pop was shouting out the mob man, you you that Now,

451
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I think the nineties kind of we

452
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: saw it kind of slowly. It started slowly evolving. Yeah,

453
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: because motherfucker's want to let you know. Fuck it. You know,

454
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: if it's like that ship, I'm gonna start letting people

455
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: know where I'm from. Fucking and and and that was

456
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: the crazy part. Like when you were uh quick, little

457
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: beef man, you never crossed paths, and and you had

458
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: pretty much a little bit of everybody taking sides. And

459
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: now this is me from this day, from back then,

460
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: and now that was the beef. You had bloods and

461
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: crips going at him when you had this beef. And

462
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: then you know, you got niggas got sucked up. Now

463
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: now you're all good. Oh no, we're good as my

464
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: fun exactly. I mean, I mean with the truth and

465
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: all of this stuff. The kitchens in the east, those

466
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: guys and you know, everybody trying to to make and

467
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: half peace, but they can't get over the humph they

468
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: killed the homie or they did this. You got a

469
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: guy right here that's making money, DJ Quick, you know

470
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, making money. They got this feud. They

471
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: feud involved everybody, it did, but I mean everybody. But

472
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: then at the end of the day, just say I

473
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: lost my cousin behind this feud. But these dudes are

474
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: right here today and they're cool. They're cool as hell,

475
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: So it don't make no sense to even create this

476
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: this this look at Tupac and Biggie. You know that

477
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: beat was half as it was just full of ship,

478
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: but look what it cost. And then at the end

479
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: of the day they were hooking up and getting back together,

480
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: but it didn't happen. But then here you got other

481
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: people talking and and like like nothing ever happened. You

482
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I don't know what I'm

483
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: trying to say. I'm just trying to say they're worth

484
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: the beefs ain't worth it. No, definitely at the end

485
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: of the day, especially if if it comes down to

486
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: Nigga's losing their lives and ship over. You know, I

487
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: credited to just being young and immature and basically wanting

488
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: to again, I won't to represent where you're from. I mean,

489
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, uh us, I mean me as a young

490
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: rapper and ship even out you know, in the streets

491
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: going on tour, I still wanted to hang with the

492
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: homies and be associated to the neighborhood even though we

493
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: was making money. I'm saying in movie screens and ship,

494
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: our our identity was still compting in the neighborhood, and

495
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: we didn't want to forget that. But then, like you said,

496
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: beefs come over territories and rivalries and ship like that.

497
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: And then it spread to records and then innocent bystanders

498
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: or niggas who ain't even got shipped to do it

499
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: the by spit or the rap he wrote. Now niggas

500
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: is losing their lives, are getting fucked up behind it,

501
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: So I think you you know, and then you got

502
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: some niggas who instigate the ship, you know what I'm saying.

503
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: And then he got homies, and I got homies who

504
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: feel like we gotta represent And even when motherfucker's ain't around,

505
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: that's how the beach still goes on because now you've

506
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: got people on the outside to feel like, fuck it,

507
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: we gotta partake too. So it comes with just trying

508
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: to overtime and just being mature enough to grow the

509
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: funk up. Really, And you know, some of us when

510
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: we get into that age bracket to where we start,

511
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, getting a little gray hair and kids running around,

512
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: and you know, we're still able to sit around here

513
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: and be like, God, damn, I'm getting old and got

514
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: a teenage daughter or daughter who got a kid now

515
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: or blah blah blah. I guess we started getting them

516
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: a little mature to where nigga don't want to have

517
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: no motherfucking beach as a grown man. I want to

518
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: be able to go where the funk I want to

519
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: go and go hang with whoever and whatever neighborhood without

520
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: it having a result into the situation of you know, ship.

521
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: I used to be a crip and you used to

522
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: be a blood and niggas used to shoot at me

523
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: and we used to shoot back and somebody lost their life.

524
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: I get it, but that's like warfare to me. The

525
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: casualties of war. You give me, don't fall don't fault

526
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: me for what I did when I was following the

527
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: motherfucking street code and the rag and whate because now

528
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm a mature man and I know it ain't about

529
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: that ship. So casualties of war, mom, nigga, if you

530
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: feel me. We just saw the Florences and the East

531
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: Coast Crips in their twenty year war. We're talking about

532
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: probably one of the most bloody conflicts in the last

533
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: two decades that Florence's were playing East and the East

534
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: Coast is gang bag bang like a mother. So these

535
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: guys came to the table in September two thousand nine

536
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: teen and ended it. So if they can do it,

537
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: But just that just goes back to what I'm saying.

538
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: Look how lone that was. And now they they're not type.

539
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: But they didn't, you know, so crazy. I said it

540
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: on this podcast like a few months before that, that

541
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring the East Coasts and the Florences together.

542
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: And when I said it, I didn't know how what

543
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. I didn't know what was gonna happen.

544
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything. And then like I talked it

545
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: into existence, and then people sometimes happen. You know how

546
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: many people hit me in the inbox saying are you crazy?

547
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: The East Coast and the Florence will never truce? And

548
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: then with three months later, boom they have to take

549
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: Now they're still good, right now, They're still good right now.

550
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: In fact, um myself and Skip Townsend brought the Inglewood Thirteens,

551
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: the Queen Street Bloods and the Neighborhood Pirus and Inglewood

552
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: to the table last Friday for the first time, and

553
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: that was the first meeting for them to have a

554
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: three way truce. So we got another meeting this week,

555
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: the second meeting to kind of solidify that. So I

556
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: think it's gonna start spreading. Man, like the eighties gang

557
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: banging in early nineties, gang banging has been over and

558
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: just treacherous day. Yeah, And like you said, we got

559
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: to get over the casualties. But everybody ain't. If anybody

560
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: ever get you ain't got a gang banging history. I'm

561
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna tell you some catching and who would be like

562
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: Funk that they don't want to let it go all

563
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: you have to have somebody there to get him to

564
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: let it exactly. You know what I'm saying. If black

565
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: man are gonna kick it in one room like this

566
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: years ago, I never saw this exactly. Oh no, I'm

567
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: not going nowhere with this dude. I didn't like his

568
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 1: music because he was talking about quick. Okay. If if

569
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: this is a blood and crypt than everybody knows who

570
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: they ride with exactly saw each other. It's a problem.

571
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: And niggas was getting beat up cars shot up there

572
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: exactly playing their song. You know what I'm saying, We're

573
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: going up Chris Shaw playing his song I had a

574
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: seventy seven call at the time, and I'm bumping DJ

575
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: quick as soon as he was talking about the dice

576
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: pop pop Pop swerved off Hits Central. I don't know

577
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: where the funk it is, but it's somebody that didn't

578
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: like that. So you've got people mad, you've got people

579
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: understanding and needs meet all the time, and and at

580
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: this point it's good. It's like we don't care anymore

581
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: about that because majorities. There's more brothers that don't want

582
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: to do it anymore than there are that one to

583
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: keep pushing that, and in these meetings, the majority rules.

584
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: Now I'm not a I'm talking about the streets right now,

585
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: but the meetings are the dudes from the streets. They

586
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: come into the table and then they're going back to

587
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: the streets saying, look, we just had this meeting. Hopefully

588
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: they are strong enough in the presence that they can

589
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: articulate the dudes because like like he said, it's just

590
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: motherfucker's who are like fuck that. You have to have

591
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: that motherfucking person who was able to go to the

592
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: because it's all it's it's usually some young dude or

593
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: some dude from way back in the day who feel

594
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: like funk, that brother was killed, cousin was killed, family

595
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: was killed, and y'all trying to sit down with the

596
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: hood that done it. I am not for it. And

597
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: like you said, there are just some dudes they go,

598
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: we can't do this ship no more. But you always

599
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: got that one or two that cannot let go the

600
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: casualty of war that I can't do it. So they

601
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: have to be able to show him that it's a

602
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: better way, in a better side than keeping the fucking

603
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: animosity and the anger to still want to pop every

604
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: time you see a nigger from that neighborhood. And that's

605
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 1: what they're doing. And a lot of these brothers are

606
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: This is risky work, these truces. These truces can't get

607
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: you killed because you go back to the neighborhood and say,

608
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: we just had a meeting and you bump into someone

609
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: like you're talking about you don't know what he's feeling

610
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: that day, you know, So it's pretty risk it's pretty dangerous.

611
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: But you know, we're pushing, we're pushing, and uh, at

612
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: the end of the day, there's there's too many people

613
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: that want to end the animosity. There's too many people

614
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: from these neighborhoods, from these sets that come to these meetings. Man,

615
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: every time we do a meeting, there's more people. The

616
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: following week there's more people, ten more people come. Well

617
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: that's because you got, oh the older cats trying to

618
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: jump on the bandwagon, and because they tired. You know,

619
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: we got kids, we got grandkids. I'm raising my two

620
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: year old man son three years over. He's three. I

621
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: hadn't boy what two years and and man, I'm enjoying

622
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: that more than I did anything in my life. So

623
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: when you get fifty five, you on your way. You

624
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: can't be looking stupid out there on the block no more. So.

625
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: You know, these guys coming home from prison after doing

626
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't know which way to go, and then all

627
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: they see is a little homes and their nephews and

628
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: all that. But while killing each other. It's time. But

629
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: you just got a lot of cats. And then you

630
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: have some older catch that's out there still pushing the line.

631
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's just ridiculous. Well, I'd

632
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: like to see um A lot of you do. His

633
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: father's and the number one thing that comes up is

634
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: like my son is twelve. My son'st the gang ages,

635
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: the gang joining ages, and most people don't want this

636
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: for their kids. So that's why they come into these meetings,

637
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: and that's why they're saying, we're gonna end this truth.

638
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna end this rival because I want my son

639
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: to be able to walk from point A to point

640
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: B and not have to deal with the things that

641
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: I had to deal with when I was coming up

642
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: during that time. So a lot of these guys that

643
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: have sons, that's a huge motivator. And how can you

644
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: not how can you go against that? Because if you

645
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: got a son and you still living in that situation,

646
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: then nine times out of ten he gonna have to

647
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: deal with what you dealt with as a young stir

648
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: banging and whatever. So if you're trying to see a

649
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: better life for your kids and you're still living in

650
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: that situation, you know, because some dudes don't migrate out,

651
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: fuck it. I stay right here in the neighborhood or

652
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: in in l a still or whatever. So knowing how

653
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: the streets was when we came up, and how easy

654
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: it is for you to get motherfucking got it. It

655
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: has to be a situation to where they come together because,

656
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: like you said, yeah, I don't want to have my

657
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: fourteen year old son walking to the store and the

658
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: motherfucker pull up just because last night somebody went through

659
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: their neighborhood and shot up. Now my innocent fourteen son

660
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: is going to get shot because he's just walking to

661
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: the store. So it's a lot of innocent by standardship.

662
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: So if you want to kill that, you gotta be

663
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: able to come to some kind of agreement, at least

664
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: for the kids, you know what I'm saying. There's been

665
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: a lot of talks. And Compton also a few six

666
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: months ago. I think these two neighborhoods are close to you,

667
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: the Swamps and the Campanella's, I believe, had a couple

668
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: of meetings. I'm not sure what. I wasn't president at though,

669
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: so I don't know what happened, but a lot of

670
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: compon neighborhoods that were rivals. I'll come to the table

671
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: at least having some discussions, preliminary talks. I mean, it's

672
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: only it's the only way for you to try to

673
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: survive the next generation and to leave something behind or

674
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: to try to stay you know, foundation strong, incounting you

675
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: get me. So you know, we just can't like, we

676
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: just can't kill each other off until motherfucker's like dinosaurs

677
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: and extinct, you know what I'm saying. That's what's happening.

678
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: In the early history of UH when Swamp was just

679
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: swamp boys and Campanella was just Campanella boys, they was

680
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: all together in the in the seventies. It usually like that,

681
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: and then something happened, somebody get killed, the funked up

682
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then there goes to split or there

683
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: goes the community unity of whatever, and the next thing,

684
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: you know, motherfucker's is worn. Well. Well, nowadays you got

685
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: even in and everywhere, you got a homie killing the homie.

686
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: It's so watered down now then whether it used to

687
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: be in the eighties, it's so watered down. So you

688
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: you you got homies killing the homies, you got you

689
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: got cats from another hood. Y'all was tight down. We

690
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: didn't now we're killing each other. And and and one

691
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: thing about the Crypts and Compton, I can tell you

692
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: they was all good, you know what I'm saying, because

693
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: they knew it was its number of bloods and Compton,

694
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: but all the Crypts, especially Santana's and I say this

695
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: all the time. Them cats was right by us, you

696
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And them cats, if we don't,

697
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: they're coming back. Baby games I had. I mean, those

698
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: cats had each other, them had it. They were solid.

699
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, those them to cash. I

700
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: gotta go after these dudes. Banion was game banging. Was

701
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: game banging and not killing the little kid. Back then,

702
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: if if I saw you with your baby, we had

703
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 1: what you call you get a pass. Now they're gonna

704
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: you and your baby down in your arm. These cat

705
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: we didn't have. We didn't have too many innocent kids

706
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: getting killed and ship, I mean, niggas was worn like

707
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: a motherfucker. But it was something about, like you said,

708
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: at the level of of of respect for kids and

709
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: fucking situations like Nick ain't going to see you in

710
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: the car with your kid and just be like fuck it,

711
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: We're still gonna dump on the nigga. It was some

712
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: kind of some kind of respect or code of the

713
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: streets we had with motherfucker's don't give a fuck kids

714
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: and everything out we're shooting up now fucking exactly now. Um.

715
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: A few episodes ago, we interviewed Alonso Williams, and I

716
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: think that almost every artist went through the world crist

717
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: Wrecking Crew at some point every artist that became relevant,

718
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: you did you have your path went through Alonso at

719
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: at some point our path went through Unknown and Alonzo. Yeah,

720
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: it did. Um. I told him when he was on

721
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: the show that if you total up the value of

722
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: all the artists that you've ever dealt with, the billions,

723
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: he'd declide he'd be the black Clive Davis right now,

724
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: real ship. Let me tell you something in our days,

725
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: and I say this about every artist, we all got

726
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: to go through it. You go through to getting fun stage,

727
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna funk who you are. You're gonna have that

728
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: nigger who the manager or whatever, and he's gonna fuck you.

729
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: And not to discredit them niggas. But we didn't get

730
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: ship just we was just happy. But the motherfucking we

731
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: was just happy to get on. Now. Look, I deal

732
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: with Mac. I mean Mac was cool to me. He

733
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: was a cool person. Now being on as far as

734
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: business and being on who banging. I mean, as far

735
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: as our artist is concerned, you always gonna want the

736
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: best of feel. You want to the ship for yourself

737
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: as an artist and on the business side. You know,

738
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: one of my things was never take ship personal if

739
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: it's business, and in situations with me knowing how to

740
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: run my business and my record ship, it's just something

741
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: motherfucker's ain't gonna go for. And then sometimes when you're

742
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: a young business owner and you first started starting in

743
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: the business, you know, you don't really know you know

744
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: how to just handle fucking business. I mean a lot

745
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's go through that though, start businesses and they

746
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: failed because you guys were like teenagers. When when you

747
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: was dealing with Alonzo, I'm guessing you I was a mocker,

748
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: was about seventeen. It was about sixteen seventeen when I

749
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: started dealing with Alonzo. We met Alonzo fucking around with

750
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 1: some niggers that funked around across the street from Chill,

751
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: and we wanted to form this group compence most wanted.

752
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: So we did that and they took us. We went

753
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: made a fucking little dim old tape or some ship,

754
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: and they had a meet. They was trying to get

755
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: on their singers and we just happened to be riding

756
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: with the motherfucker's and they ended up at Alonso house.

757
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: We had to tape on us. We played it for

758
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: him Ship. A week later, Alonso was hitting us up,

759
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: telling us to come back to the studio, but Alonzo

760
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: then funk with us. Alonzo pushed us off to Unknown DJ,

761
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: and that's how we got on. So who are some

762
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: of the early artists that you met back in the

763
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: day when you was with with Alonso that before they

764
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: blew up and before they came up, you must have

765
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: seen a little bit of everybody. We know Easy and

766
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: Ren because Rin used to come across the street from

767
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: Chill's house all the time, So we used to see

768
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: Easy and n all the time. And then uh fucking

769
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: with Unknown I mean in Alonzo, I mean Ship. It

770
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: was all kind of motherfucking independent artists we've seen on

771
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: the way up, you know what I'm saying. Uh Dub

772
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: was on his way up, fucking like I said, Iced

773
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: Tea was on his way up because he funked with Unknown,

774
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: because Unknown had a little independent label called Techno Hop.

775
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: So we used to see all kind of motherfucker's going

776
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: around the little little motherfucking We used to go to

777
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: the clubs and Ship and Water the Bush and the

778
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: Paradise and all that. Ship. So we used to see

779
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: a lot of motherfucking niggers on the come up. He

780
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: is Wren the best lyricists from n w A. It's

781
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: really the best lyricists from n w A. It all

782
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: depends because go back and listen to all them songs.

783
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: It was was the Ren to me, was the motherfucker

784
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: who that was the MAGA union funk with when they

785
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: came to the Cube was the clever motherfucker. Cube was

786
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: the clever storytelling motherfucker. He could put the clever stories

787
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: about the dope ship and what because Cube was an artist.

788
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: Rin was the motherfucking killer battle rat nigger. He wrote

789
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: just straight up fucking fear ship. So to me coming

790
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: up in the n w A days, to me, yeah,

791
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: he probably I probably was. He probably was considered hard

792
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: this to me as far as lyricists concerned, because he

793
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: was a fucking lyricist. I mean, Cube was clever, but

794
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't start bumping real Cube heavy until

795
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: the motherfucking's Steady Mobbing album. Who was the real gangster?

796
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: All them out of n w A easy, I mean

797
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: easy if you asked me, we all know we're usually

798
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: come from Compton, I mean, but the rest of them.

799
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: I mean RN was in Compton all the time, but

800
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: it was never a game bager though. I don't think

801
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: RN ever, I mean, chill you would know more than

802
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: I do. He ran around with Tramor and south Side

803
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 1: or was he? I see this is this in first

804
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: to me? Uh, what about Ice Cube? I mean, yeah,

805
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: Cube wasn't from Compton. Now, I used to funk with

806
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: my nigga j D, who used to live over there

807
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: in the South. That was my nigga. I used to

808
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: run with j D all the fucking time. Um, but

809
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: Cube never really Cube really never claimed to be a banger.

810
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean people just took that assumption because of in

811
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: way too Crippin to every movie he did. He did

812
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: this in every movie. He made sure he threw up

813
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: with c he he was he let me tell you something.

814
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: Cube was one of the Cube to me was the

815
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: nigga who grew up in the hood, who hung around

816
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: the bangers, and he was he was accepted. You don't

817
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: have to claim one. He left or whatever, and to him,

818
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: that's where he came. Like if I wasn't claiming Track

819
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: knew and I still My cousin was from Tragnew and

820
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: we lived over there, and niggas knew I was a

821
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: rapper and all, and I get in fucking videos. Oh yeah,

822
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw up to see and everything because they're

823
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: gonna accept it because to them it looks like I'm

824
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: representing for us. You don't need to you're representing for us.

825
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: So that's how we took it. But as as far

826
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: as artists and banging and all that, Ship I never

827
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: my personally, I never And I used to hang with

828
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: Cube in the early days when it was street knowledge

829
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: and all that. I never got the assumption that Cube

830
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: was a banger. You know, niggas like us were still

831
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: wearing bandanas in our pockets and ship like that we

832
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: were banging. He definitely took gainst the rap and and

833
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: use it to his his potential. He's a millionaire out

834
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: of gains rap straight banging out of conting. But says,

835
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: if you look at it, it's a lot of niggas

836
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: right now, who's who's as we would call them in

837
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: our in our banging days, it's a lot of perpetrating

838
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: and is now who do ship that ain't whatever authentic

839
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: and ain't making a gang of bread off? You know?

840
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: Ship Now it's like Ship, Uh, Hollywood acting and imagery

841
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: is everything. Now, you know, you don't have to be authentic.

842
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: You can just look the fucking park. Yeah, there were

843
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: like no real bangers in the movie Colors. That was like,

844
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: I'm it's it's like in the sports world when you're

845
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: coming up through high school and all that, and they

846
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: call it. This motherfucker passing the eye test. I don't

847
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: know what fucking skills he got, but this motherfucker six

848
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: five two and something pounds. God damn, he passed the

849
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: eye test. Signed him up. So a lot of niggas

850
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: passed the eye test. You give me, I put on

851
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: a couple of gold chains and some tattoos, with my

852
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: shirt off and put a rag in my back pocket

853
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: and be from any fuckingwhere. But nowadays you put me

854
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: on YouTube and motherfucker's don't know, Ship, I'm passing the

855
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: eye test to a lot of motherfucker's. Oh look at

856
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: this nigga. Stick got the chains on and standing in

857
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: front of the Ferrari nigger got the tats and the

858
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: fucking rag in his back pocket. Everybody accepting that, did

859
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: you hear what he's saying? That nigga said, I will

860
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: smoke you with the drade. Cold nigga, nigga hardest and

861
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: motherfucker please nigga, I'm for motherfucking Rhode Island, Connecticut. It

862
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: don't fuck it, give me, it don't matter. You could

863
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: pass the eye test, now fuck it true, man, I'm

864
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: thinking of a guy who seriously passed the eye motherfucker's

865
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: passed the eye test. Man. I ain't gonna even say no, no, no,

866
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: that's on six Nine's talk about somebody who made hundreds

867
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars passed the eye tests. I don't

868
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: he gonna be mad. He he's already pissed at us. Man,

869
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: he's already. Yeah, you're mad at us, because, yeah, you

870
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about. He passed the eye test

871
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: because he didn't bang with y'all. He didn't um, he

872
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: didn't put in no work with y'all, but he passed

873
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: that eye test. Well, when, well, that's something totally different.

874
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: Explain that when when when let me let me let

875
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: me explain ship. Sheil lived in the hood, just like

876
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: he said, like like I already got a pass because there,

877
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: but she went off to college. She'll had both his

878
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: parents when she went off to college. Everybody doing anything.

879
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: When I say she wasn't a bona fide a one

880
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: hunted should win. That dude that's standing on the block

881
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: with a pistol should when that dude that was in

882
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: the car or in the back seat ready to hang out,

883
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: that motherfucker he never put a red band down in

884
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: his back pocket on his forehead and say let's go

885
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: to to swap me. Sheild was never want to look

886
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: for a compromsation from the other side. You ain't never

887
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: had a problem with the other side, you know what

888
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So he didn't live like we lived. You

889
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When he came, he came with money,

890
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: and he bring that money and then he he got

891
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: with me, and he said, but when he got with you,

892
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: he didn't have no money. When it was fern Hill

893
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: records and so you don't know what you're talking about.

894
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: Was the very early records. He was, I ain't gonna

895
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: put his business out there. He had money. When I

896
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: got out of prison, he looked out for me. That's

897
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: when me and SI hooked up. Now I'm going to

898
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: Vegas with ship. Now I'm getting on that damn airplane

899
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: with ship. So now we we met this meet this

900
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: rich white guy giving up money and and down here

901
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: I am. I'm when I went to prison. It was like, man,

902
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: I ain't had nothing. I'm a young kid, I'm nineteen

903
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: years old. I'm you know, fully active into this. Coming

904
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: home two years old. He goes shop. You know what

905
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now, that's what should run to to our neighborhood.

906
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: She'll didn't bring no gangster ship to the hood. Ship

907
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: didn't come and go wild. She came to the hood

908
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: and say I got a dream. I need you to

909
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: help me build this dream. And that's what happened, you

910
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's that's that's the only

911
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: thing that kept brought to that table, all that other ship.

912
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: That's what everybody else wanted to think. She'll was never

913
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: a game member. She can She don't have days where

914
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 1: he could sit with the homing and drank a beer

915
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: and talk about remember this time we was wo He

916
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: don't have no days like that, so he could talk

917
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: about being on the plane and flying here and flying there.

918
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: But all that other ship, no, no gangster ship, and

919
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: the death thrower showing the interest in you guys. But

920
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: you guys already had like three albums out before Death

921
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 1: Throwers was established. Three or four had uh what four?

922
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: I think we was working on. No, we was working

923
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: on Actually we was working on was it was it?

924
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: Music to drive By? We were working on Music to

925
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: drive By? When death Row formed because Shug put Unknown

926
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: on the payroll as a producer. That's when they had

927
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: to That's when they was with the GF ship too,

928
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: because they got they had coats. I remember Ann came

929
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: to the studio they had the black leather coats with

930
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: the hooks on them with the turk coise patches on

931
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 1: the back and said death Row. Um, that's when death

932
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: Row first formed. Um. So we was already three albums in,

933
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: you know, and m Unknown was dealing with Sugar as

934
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: far as production because you know, he was trying to

935
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: work on the compter on our Music to drive By record,

936
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: but he was also supposed to be doing beats for

937
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: Sugar and them for the Convicts when they were over there,

938
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: because they were supposed to be the first group. I guess,

939
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: and uh, I know On got into a little confrontation

940
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: with Shug because he didn't turn beats in on time,

941
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: so that didn't work out. Pretty good. So, but we

942
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: I never had any issues with Shook. Everything was good. Yeah,

943
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: because he was looking for an artist at that time.

944
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: Did he ever consider you guys know because we were

945
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: already signed to Sony, did that matter? I mean, we

946
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: were signed to two epics Sony. You know, our contract

947
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: was straight with them, So it wasn't a situation to

948
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: where we were signed to an independent and you know,

949
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: something to where you can walk up on some nigga

950
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: from the neighborhood and be like, hey, you're gonna let

951
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: see him dub about the contract or whatever. We We

952
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: were straight. We were straight signed to Sony, So it

953
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: wasn't you wasn't going to walk up to Dave Glues

954
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: office and do no ship like that. How hard was

955
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 1: it back then to get signed to a major label

956
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: like that because it didn't seem too common like it

957
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: wasn't in our days of wrapping, you know, it was

958
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: the like like it is now, which is crazy because

959
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 1: now it's the world of independent labels. When we first started,

960
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: it was the world of independence. Techno hop uh Alonzo

961
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: with Crew cut u l A Dream Team had a label.

962
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: Egypt had Egyptian Empire. Uh Ruthless was started. Uh, it

963
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: was nothing but independent labels. So um it was. It

964
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: wasn't heard of for niggas to get major label deals.

965
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: You know, major label deals was fucking run DMC. You

966
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,959
Speaker 1: get me h L L COO J with Deaf Jam

967
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: I mean Beastie Boys, those were major labels. Because even

968
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: niggas like Eric B and Rock Him and fucking E. P.

969
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: M D and them cats, they were on independent record labels.

970
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean. So we just happened to Unknown, who used

971
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: to wor his way through fucking Hollywood. For some reason,

972
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: he had a hook up with Orpheus Records, which was

973
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: independent but had major distribution through Capitol Records, so he

974
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: knew the guy who basically worked who owned Orpheus Records.

975
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: Orpheus Records was the home of Melbourne Moore. Okay, so

976
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: her husband, Charles Huggins owned Orpheus Records. So somehow Unknown

977
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: knew the dude who worked for Orpheus. We had a

978
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: fucking what MAXI single out, This is Compton, give it up,

979
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: I give up nothing. They took that ship up to Orpheus.

980
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: They heard it and because the street buzz on nick

981
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: gangster niggers in the streets was going because Easy was cracking,

982
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: n w A was cracking, King T was cracking, Ice

983
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: Tea was cracking. So they were one of the motherfucker's all,

984
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: we gotta give us one of them. Real talk, we

985
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: gotta get us one of them. So we got signed

986
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: to Orpheus Records, which had a deal with Capital, and

987
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: that's how we got our major label deal. Damn that

988
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: just sounds were just in the right place at the

989
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: right time. Gangster rap was was going off in l

990
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: A Like after Easy and them hit with fucking boys

991
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: in the hood, Fucking labels wanted them a fucking gangster rapper,

992
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: and we just happened to be in the right place

993
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: because we was already making tapes in the hood and

994
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: the garage and ship like that, and we was able

995
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: to put together some ship wearing fucking and then ship

996
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, it's pretty cool until you know a label.

997
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: They like our ship. Some motherfucker's got on khaki suits

998
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: and fucking band damas and ship. They looked like them

999
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: in w A Fox sign them. Motherfucker's up man, Ship.

1000
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm on the plane. Three months later they got my

1001
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: first They're on the plane in New York and walking

1002
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: around Manhattan and Ship like we was neighborhood niggas. We

1003
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: tore up the motherfucking room like it wasn't Ship nig

1004
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: We some neighborhood niggas throwing motherfucking chicken out them win

1005
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: doing Ship off the thirty fifth floor, and Ship we

1006
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 1: didn't know how to act. We were some niggas from Compton.

1007
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: We didn't give a fuck down out there on the road.

1008
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: How many I know, everybody got to ask what that there?

1009
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: How many niggas? I mean, it's always somebody to tell

1010
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: you something on the reel. In my fucking twenty years

1011
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: or thirty years of touring, we never had a fucking

1012
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: confrontation with nothing. Probably one in tuc signs Nigga. And

1013
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: when that's when nigga, we was banged out to the fullest,

1014
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, and to sign was full of bloods. And

1015
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: when I say that was probably I mean everybody in

1016
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. It was about a theater that held about

1017
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: three thousand people. Every motherfucking there had on head bandamas.

1018
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: I kid you not that y'all performing. Oh they loved

1019
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: us performing. But when it was trying to get up

1020
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: out of there, it was a couple of shots went off.

1021
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: We had to because ship, I mean, niggas, let us perform.

1022
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: That's the crazy ship. We performed through the show. Everything

1023
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: was gravy, but when it was trying to lead that

1024
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: motherfucker man. But other than that man, we didn't travel

1025
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: the country the overseas. That was our only incident. I've

1026
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: never gotten into it with mother. Usually I go to

1027
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: a nigga. Usually I go to a nigga town. I

1028
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: don't give a funk if it's crip or blood affiliated.

1029
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: I go to a nigga's neighborhood and hang with them.

1030
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: That's how we get motherfucking cool with niggas because we

1031
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: go because back then you had to do in stores

1032
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: and promo tours and go to record stores and signed

1033
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: fucking autographs. And so I'm trying. You're just happen to

1034
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: pull up somewhere with niggas banging, and then they want

1035
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: to be bloods. They want to be crips most of

1036
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: the time. Right, most of the time here nigga's come in,

1037
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: they actually for autographs. You go out in the back,

1038
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: smoke a joint with them. They like, this is our hood,

1039
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, we're cool with it. And then from there

1040
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: it's just a respect thing. So we tried not to

1041
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how you want to put it. We

1042
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: try not to go motherfucking places and agitate motherfucker's and

1043
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: we My thing is, look, we gotta come out here.

1044
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: We gotta make some more fucking money, and we gotta

1045
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: get the funk up out of here. We ain't nowhere

1046
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: near fucking Compton, So let's get through this, motherfucker. Nobody

1047
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: go to jail, nobody ends up in the fucking hospital,

1048
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: and we're on the plane the next morning. So let's

1049
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: go do the show. Nigga smoked. They we meet a

1050
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: couple of fans, and then niggas would tell you, nigga,

1051
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm on your door at six o'clock in the morning.

1052
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: Let's get the funk up out of here. We don't

1053
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, that's my thing. Don't like you don't know

1054
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: what the fun is going on? Now, we always had that.

1055
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: You know, we're from Compton. Compton is the greatest motherfucking

1056
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: get me, Compton is the greatest place. And then when

1057
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: you talk about banging, we don't give a fuck. We

1058
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: pull up in your motherfucking town. Get out, nigger, and

1059
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: it's only five of us, and we whoop every motherfucker

1060
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: in here. We won't give fun. That's our feeling. But

1061
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: my thing was, you know some professional ship. You get me.

1062
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: We got these motherfucking white executives out here, You got

1063
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: the road managers out here. Motherfucker's scared, man, So you

1064
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: can't get into situations that these other motherfucker's can't handle.

1065
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: And then you don't want to go home. And next thing,

1066
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: you know what, motherfucker dropping you from the label because

1067
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: every time you go somewhere, you're beating on motherfucker's, are

1068
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: getting in the shootouts and ship like that. Now that's

1069
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: giving us a bad name. Now we're all in the news.

1070
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: And then back then it's all about gangster wrap is

1071
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: bad and there's bitches, and it's all this type of ship.

1072
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to. I didn't want to bring

1073
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 1: no motherfucking drama to that because we was already getting

1074
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: a hard time just trying to be who we were

1075
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: as artists. You get me. I'm not trying to be

1076
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: a motherfucker that think I'm battered than the niggas in

1077
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: Chicago or New York or Texas or wherever. But nigga,

1078
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: we were hard nigga were hard with the lord's tucker

1079
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: on your heads like she wasn't everybody else's. She wasn't

1080
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: on my head. But I had a nigger who one

1081
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: of them Centator niggas was talking about the Week Comes

1082
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: Strapped album and all that ship. I mean, we felt like,

1083
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't know ship. We wasn't trying to say fucking

1084
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: every lady is a bitch or a whore or hood rap,

1085
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: but ship in my neighborhood, it's a couple of hood

1086
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: fucking ship like not you, You're not one. I'm not

1087
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: saying that about you, miss or you lady. You know

1088
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: you sophisticated. I'm not meaning that, So don't take what

1089
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: I say on my fucking record is every fucking female

1090
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: on our planet Earth is a bit or horror. No,

1091
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: but god damnit this. Some girls in my neighborhood funked

1092
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: with me, funk with my nigga from the mob, funk

1093
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: with the bitch from south Side. She funk with all

1094
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: she then't got around. So to me, that's a hood rat.

1095
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what you want me to call her

1096
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: other than that youven get me, So that's our term.

1097
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: Don't take it personal. You get me, So we had

1098
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: to deal with that. But it's just an expression of

1099
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: what I like. I said, that's what we grew up knowing.

1100
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't going to get

1101
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: on record and be like our grandmama and know that

1102
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: girls are hardly or she's a fucking funk, that she's

1103
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: a hood rat. That's what we grew up on. That's

1104
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: what they taught us in the hood. So I mean

1105
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: a lot and a lot of motherfucker's got on us

1106
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: because what we represented we was gang banging. All these

1107
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: guys talking and the bad influence. And now kids across

1108
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: the country is gang banging and killing motherfucker's and blame

1109
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: it and on rap music. It's the dumbest ship I've

1110
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: ever fucking heard in my life. Motherfucker. I don't watch

1111
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: Superman in the morning and put on the cape and

1112
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: go to the top of the roof and be like, motherfucker,

1113
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: you get me. You gotta have fucking sense. And I

1114
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: feel if you raise your kid right, motherfucker, you know

1115
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: you can't. Gang banging is real ship. But at the

1116
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: same time, music has influence. Man, I never tell you

1117
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: somebody never heard a motherfucking's song in my life that

1118
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: makes me want to take something or do something stupid whatever.

1119
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: It's fucking You could be crying your heart out on

1120
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: the record and saying you went through that, ain't me.

1121
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: You get me. I got the sense to know that

1122
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: ain't me. Or I'm feeling this fucking musician or artists

1123
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: so bad, I feel your pain. Or you're talking about

1124
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: some heartache or a breakup. Okay, yeah, I might have

1125
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: went through some ship like that, but that don't mean,

1126
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: motherfucker I want to go motherfucking shoot up everybody around

1127
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: the corner. Because on the records you said something, Then,

1128
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: motherfucker that means fucking I can go watch Arnold Schwartz

1129
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: and Ager and watch him kill up every motherfucking America

1130
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: and go le me grab my motherfucking A K forty

1131
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: seven and just start killing motherfucker's and then I'm gonna

1132
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: get away with it. It happened like that in the movies.

1133
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,439
Speaker 1: I mean, so sometimes on records you have to dig

1134
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: deep into it and just listen to the explanation or

1135
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: listen to what they're trying to do. They're trying to

1136
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: tell you what I went through. Necessarily, you don't have

1137
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: to go through that. But it might be a motherfucking

1138
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: this situation that might ben like minds or whatever. So

1139
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: just hear my story. That's it. Well, you still got

1140
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: reminded kids out here today and that believes in what

1141
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: you're saying, that believes in the pistol, believe that they

1142
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: have to identify themselves with the hood. A lot of

1143
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: them in my neighborhood. Everybody go through it. You have

1144
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: a you have a lot of kids just don't understand

1145
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: and getting leadership from a father. Pickre, you know what

1146
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Some don't have a father Pigre. You know

1147
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But is that an excuse for you

1148
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: to go and terrorize. No, No, definitely not. I mean

1149
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: you have to be able to differentiate what's real and

1150
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: in fiction or what happens you get kids. I don't

1151
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: think you can blame the art, but I do believe

1152
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: the art has influence on all kind of negative things.

1153
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: The two dudes that had that forty four minute shootout

1154
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: with the L A. P. D. Back in that was

1155
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: they was watching Heat. They was loving the movie Heat.

1156
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: Dude when strapped and they went strapped and look what

1157
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: the funk happened at the end. Your movie script is done.

1158
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: Motherfucker you did me. You ain't coming out of this

1159
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: safe and flying off the cube, but with a hundred

1160
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: million in your backpack, you're fucking dead in the middle

1161
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: of the street. Real life is real life. I get it.

1162
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: Listen to my art whatever, and be influenced or be educated,

1163
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 1: But motherfucker, don't take some ship that is like I'm

1164
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: on a fucking record. You get me. You're watching the

1165
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 1: movie and it might say true life story, and most

1166
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: of the time when it's true life, it don't end

1167
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 1: up in the fucking fairy tale. So learn from this ship.

1168
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: And like you said, as a youth, motherfucker you just

1169
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: got as a kid. We gotta be able to direct

1170
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: our kids in a different fashion. And like I said,

1171
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: I was one of them lost kids too. In the neighborhood.

1172
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: My father wasn't sucking around. I had a single parent.

1173
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: My mom went to work at eleven o'clock at night

1174
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: to seven o'clock in the morning. We used to have

1175
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: a fucking ball at my career. And I was fucking fifteen,

1176
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,959
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, So I was one of them lost

1177
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: kids too. Out in the street. You know, joining the

1178
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: gang because but then I still was one of my

1179
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: fucker's who was able to differentiate and know that I

1180
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: wanted something better. You get me. A lot of us

1181
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: don't make it out of that because some of us

1182
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: don't get the opportunity. Rap was my opportunity. Fuck it well,

1183
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,919
Speaker 1: I think James right, there's a lot of weak money

1184
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: people out there that some people are just easier influencing

1185
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: other people. So definitely there's a lot of motherfucker's that's

1186
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: followers and want to be loan. We've got you got

1187
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: even even the police they're finding a way through rap

1188
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: music to convict you. They're finding a way in your

1189
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: video to convict you. Or you got guns and money,

1190
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: they're coming to take your ass to jail. That's the

1191
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: that's the dumb ship nowadays, that doing like our ship was.

1192
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, we didn't do that ship back in

1193
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: our days. But like I said, now you've got access

1194
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: to the internet and social media, it's wide open. You

1195
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: get me. So now you got dudes who feel like,

1196
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: fucking I'm gonna post my guns and we're standing on

1197
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: this block and we over here and over here. It's

1198
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: just an easy way for the motherfucking police to be like,

1199
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: oh there they go, go get them. Now. I know

1200
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: a g I know a gang of niggas like that

1201
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: right now, youngsters, though you give me so how do

1202
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: you educate? You gotta tell them, motherfucker's that ain't the

1203
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: way to go. I don't give a funk what you're

1204
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: seeing or you thinking, or getting money or whatever. That

1205
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: ship is. Nine times out of ten, that ship gets

1206
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: you dead or locked the funk up. And if you

1207
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: have a vision of trying to be somebody one day,

1208
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: because motherfucker, I'm telling you, don't let it be prisoned

1209
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: that you'd be sitting in and then fifteen years later

1210
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 1: you go, oh yeah, man, I should have fucking you

1211
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Now is your opportunity because before

1212
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: some ship goes down and you sink into that pitfall,

1213
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to to open up your brain

1214
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: to understand that, yeah we are. I struggle like a

1215
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: motherfucker as a kid coming up. My mama, my mama

1216
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: was one of them, you know, mama, single mama, you know,

1217
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: food stamps sometimes and that type of ship. It was

1218
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: hard growing up in Compton as a single parent with

1219
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: motherfucking man. But you you you, I had a mom

1220
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: who always stayed on a nigger. That's what happened for me.

1221
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: You get me. I don't give for how old I

1222
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: got till I was in the house. I got threatened

1223
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: with fucking beatens and whoopings and phone stone at your

1224
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: motherfucking head and all type of ships. So you you

1225
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: have to you have to have somebody in your motherfucking

1226
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: corner too. Also, we did an interview with you for

1227
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: that's posted on the Digital soapbas Network, and we learned

1228
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,879
Speaker 1: that your your parents are married. Even though they divorced

1229
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: at the same point, you still had your father in

1230
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: your life. And half the brothers in Compton don't don't

1231
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: even know who their father. I even though my parents

1232
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: divorced and my father moved away, I still feared my

1233
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: fucking father. He could get on the phone and call

1234
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: me and I get terrified. So I still had that

1235
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: fear because he was in the house when us with

1236
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: us before they separated, and my mom's had to do

1237
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: everything on her own. But and he was in fucking

1238
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: Oklahoma somewhere. But he's still instilled in me some kind

1239
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 1: of fatherhood type of ship to where I felt threatened

1240
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: if I did something wrong, And even though I was

1241
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: out there trying to gang bang, you know, I didn't

1242
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: give a funk. But let him call and find out.

1243
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: Oh uh, Mom saw me on the corner with the

1244
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: rag in my back pocket and hanging with like five

1245
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: or six dudes, and ship, I get a call when

1246
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: I get home, and it'd be murder. I think I

1247
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: canna come out there and fuck you up. Did your

1248
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: mom ever want to send you to Oklahoma? Uh? Yeah,

1249
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: I went fucking moms didn't play. But my father was

1250
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: one of them, you know, one of them dudes was

1251
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: you know, Army went to Vietnam type of ship, so

1252
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: he he was kind of he was kind of fucked up.

1253
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: So I think I was in Oklahoma for about three

1254
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 1: months and I was like, man, if you're give me

1255
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: the funk about of here, you don't get me the

1256
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: funk up out of here, man, this motherfucker. Man. I

1257
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: love my post to death, rest in peace. But I

1258
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: was like, Mom, if you don't send me a plane

1259
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: ticket tomorrow, are you? Was telling Mom, I'm gonna change.

1260
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be everything you wanted. Man, get me the

1261
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: funk up out of here. So, like I said, you

1262
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: just have to have somebody in your corner. And luckily

1263
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: for me, I had a strong moms, even though she

1264
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: was a single parent. You know, we was out there

1265
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: gang banging like a motherfucking me and chill the motherfucker's

1266
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: be like, Liz, I saw your son on the corner

1267
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: with them dudes, and whoop the whoop is he would

1268
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: my mom be like my son on gang bang? I

1269
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: think I'll be walking in the house with the hood

1270
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 1: hit up all on my sweatshirt and all kind of

1271
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: my son don't gang bang. It was just a way

1272
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: of life for us, man. I mean that's what you did.

1273
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: I wasn't on sports. Motherfucker. I don't give a fuck.

1274
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: And I didn't start rapping until I was about seventeen eighteen.

1275
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,759
Speaker 1: So from thirteen until then, all I knew was gang banging.

1276
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: That's it. I didn't know ship else. That's it. How's

1277
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: your music changed because you just put out an album

1278
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: when you go twenty years ago now or do you

1279
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: feel like you're still the same. We we try to,

1280
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: like I said, I try to evolve, you know, grow

1281
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: up as a as a father with with daughters and

1282
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: the fucking son and you know, being able to move

1283
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: out of Compton and be in a different situation. Uh,

1284
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: my music, you know, it stays on the same track because,

1285
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: let's face it, you cannot forget the fans who get

1286
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: you to a certain point. I mean, motherfucker's I grew

1287
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: up with is my fans. My age limit is my fans.

1288
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: They love my music. They still want me to do

1289
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: records like music to dry buying songs like that. And

1290
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: I try to explain to them today, man, the age

1291
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: I am. You want me to rap about drive by

1292
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: Ms Daisy and hitting the corner with an A K

1293
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: forty seven and ship like that? I said, I can't.

1294
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: I can't rap about ship like that no more. But

1295
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: I can rap about what I feel is situations that

1296
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: still going on as far as with niggas who still

1297
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: stuck in the hood or you know, the poverty, or

1298
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 1: motherfucker's just trying to get ahead or just trying to,

1299
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, represent the West Coast with my music into

1300
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 1: an influential way that it's still trying to stick on

1301
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 1: the lines of representing content. But it ain't so it

1302
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: ain't so fucking The Tale of the heartbroken, lost, innocent

1303
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: adolescent young gang banging niggers in the hood. You get

1304
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: me like there's no future with us. Everything is you know,

1305
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 1: yes to still struggle out there, but we can't take

1306
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: it on like you know, innocence lost in the hood

1307
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,560
Speaker 1: with no fathers around, So we gotta walk around with

1308
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: with with with guns all day and protect the neighborhood

1309
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 1: and this funk everybody and it's nothing but the hood.

1310
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: And you gotta show to you because, like I said,

1311
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 1: I got a son, So I can't be rapping about

1312
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: a k and niggas up and hitting the block with

1313
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: with cavvy and my sock and ship like that and

1314
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 1: running from the police because I don't want him to

1315
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 1: get influenced by that. So you just try to make

1316
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: your music in a way that your old fans can

1317
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: respect it and then the new motherfucker's who are listening

1318
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: to music today can adapt to it into what is

1319
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 1: going on today. So you just said that it's not

1320
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: that influential, but at the same time, you don't want

1321
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: to influencing your son exactly, I can't. I mean, you

1322
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: have to show people that you can be you know,

1323
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 1: as a father. You you have to be able to

1324
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: balance it. You give mo what I'm saying because I

1325
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: want to remain true to my fans who got me

1326
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: to this point where I am. But like I said,

1327
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: I can't funk around and give them music to drive

1328
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: by you give me now. I can give you music

1329
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: on the line of where it's still a struggle and

1330
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: niggas are still stuck in the neighborhood. But I can't

1331
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 1: show you that I am still one of them dudes

1332
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: that it is influenced by like the Rag, the A

1333
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: K and all that ship because I grew up now

1334
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: you get me. Definitely. I think you could say you've

1335
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: evolved exactly. Music has to evolve with your men. You

1336
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: have to be able to balance it out. Like I said,

1337
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 1: you know for the motherfucker's who loved you when you

1338
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: first started into the new motherfucker's who are listening to

1339
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: your music and go, okay, well ship, who is this motherfucker?

1340
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And if what's going on nowadays,

1341
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: like we can't do that ship because you could lose

1342
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: your family. And yeah, like the way Hammer did when

1343
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: he wanted to go gangster man, motherfucker you put on

1344
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: pants and you better dance for us. That's what got him. No,

1345
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear no motherfucker you better not

1346
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: come out no khaki suit talking about riding in the

1347
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: sixth four and all that ship or see him in

1348
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: the speed though I know sitting in the pool. I mean,

1349
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: if you gett't to order, that's when you just gotta

1350
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: buy out. Fuck it. I mean, if you buy out

1351
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: with that good record, don't buy out trying to be

1352
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: somebody you ain't, just to ease the motherfucker' it's the transition.

1353
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: Like me, I'm not gonna color my hair like a

1354
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: rainbow and god what, that's what they're doing, So fuck it,

1355
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: I might as well do that ship too, because I

1356
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 1: gotta be on the funk that man. If If a

1357
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: motherfucker who don't like me from back then and don't

1358
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: like the pattern of what I'm doing, that's when it's

1359
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: just time to buy all gracefully, because you can't do

1360
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: what the other motherfucker's do. You don't want to be

1361
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 1: no follower funk that all right? Let me tell everybody

1362
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: where they can find us at James McDonald's on Facebook.

1363
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: And I know James McDonald's a common name, but he's

1364
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 1: the one with the Red Harley and the profile picture.

1365
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: And you could also hit James on Instagram at B

1366
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,560
Speaker 1: I G G J thirty six thirty six and he

1367
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 1: still has those shirts. James, give them the number for

1368
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: them shirts one more time, because I didn't. I didn't

1369
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: tell people twice on the shows, I had seventy calls.

1370
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: I sent out forty three shirts in a week. In

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01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: a week just by saying the first five callers get

1372
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: a free shirt. So I wind up taking all of

1373
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: those defective shirts and giving them away. But and I'm i'm, I'm,

1374
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm sending the posts some of them sending on them,

1375
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: sending me fifty bucks. No, I don't want to free

1376
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm supporting. But at the end of the day, my

1377
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: receipt yesterday was a hundred and thirty eight bucks at

1378
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 1: the post office. Shipping costs just sipping. Man. All right,

1379
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is you don't you don't want

1380
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: to know. Okay, they already they already got your number.

1381
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: And then you can find me Alex Alonso at Alex

1382
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: Alonso one zero one on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. You

1383
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: could also find me on street Gangs dot Com and

1384
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: on the platform street TV or maybe one day, I'll

1385
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: interview eight on Street TV and where can they find

1386
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 1: you at and get your latest album? You can hit

1387
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 1: me up on Instagram at eight oh eight eight Compton

1388
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: and you can hit up hit me up in the

1389
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: link and at a at you the latest album We

1390
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: got to c MW album right now, Gangster Business. You

1391
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: can also get that in the link or go follow

1392
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: the link in it to take you to the website

1393
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 1: Blue Stamp h blue Stamp Official dot com. And also

1394
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: let me remind people that they could watch video portions

1395
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: of this show on the Digital Soapbox Network that's on YouTube.

1396
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: And we also have our own Gangster Chronicles merchandise on

1397
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: that page as well. And don't forget to download the

1398
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: Himalaya app and you can also listen to the podcast

1399
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: with the Himalaya app just downloaded, and you could subscribe

1400
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: to the Gangster Chronicles through there. And eight. Where is

1401
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: the most interesting city, whether it's in the United States

1402
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: or abroad, that you performed at and that you you

1403
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: will you'll love to go back and visit it again.

1404
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: M hm. Honestly, ship Japan. I don't know what city,

1405
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: but every time we go to Japan, motherfucker. The fans

1406
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Understand them. We usually have an interpreter, but

1407
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: as far as the fans at the concerts, they know

1408
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 1: all the words to your fucking songs, but when you

1409
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: get to talk and you don't know what the funk.

1410
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: We were talking on a previous episode, James about how

1411
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: the Japanese people are fascinated with l a gang culture.

1412
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: They called the low Riders about all the games, the

1413
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: low Riders from over here. And I remember the late

1414
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 1: eighties they was coming. They was coming from China, Japan,

1415
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 1: and it was buying all the little riders the cats

1416
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 1: had every when you go to a little rider show.

1417
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: They was coming up and they was buying five at

1418
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: a time. And when motherfucker's got upon it, they were

1419
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: selling their cards for eight all the neighborhood and started

1420
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: selling their cars. New York Cats was coming out of

1421
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: here buying three, four or five at a time. Oh,

1422
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: you could easily sell your ship fort Do you think

1423
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: that your Japanese fan base as a result that your

1424
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 1: music coming out in the late eighties or nineties, or

1425
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: just the genre of your music itself. Do you think

1426
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: the eighties is will kind of give that stamp to

1427
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: the eighties. I just a lot of my ship I

1428
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: credited to the UH, to the movie Minister Society going worldwide,

1429
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: and just for our culture. They like, they love our culture.

1430
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you seem like if you go overseas to Europe,

1431
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of diverse. They like a lot

1432
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: of East Coast whatever it is. You know, sometimes a

1433
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 1: few West Coast artists, but when it comes to Japan,

1434
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: they love l a culture as far as the Raiders

1435
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 1: ship and the Low Riders and listening to Easy and

1436
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: Comptence most wanted in that time. They and I think

1437
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: that's just the nature of them being able to listen

1438
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: to West Coast Musich music over the years, and you know,

1439
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: se our difference in the way we be in our

1440
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 1: culture and the gang lifestyle and the ruggle and all that,

1441
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 1: and I think it's more fascinating to them. So they

1442
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: really love the ship that we do. I wonder if

1443
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: it's all the soldiers, the American soldiers that live over

1444
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: there in Okinawa and don't know what it is, but

1445
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: their motherfucker's they love West Coast music. They love West

1446
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: Coast music, and you know, so you gotta appreciate them.

1447
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: And every time I go over there, you know, sold

1448
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 1: out shows. You know, they don't know every words to

1449
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 1: your song. They might can't speak a liquid English, but

1450
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: they know them rap songs like it ain't ship. I

1451
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: think the Japanese culture, out of all the different Asian

1452
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 1: groups there are, there's Korean, Chinese, I think the Japanese

1453
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,560
Speaker 1: are the most open minded. You see a lot of

1454
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: Japanese dating black people, the Japanese that moved to the

1455
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: United States, and it does kind of make sense that

1456
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: they would be big fans of hip hop. Definitely. Alright,

1457
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 1: so uh before we wrap it up, um, just give

1458
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: us uh the information again where all your fans can

1459
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: check out your music. They can check us out on

1460
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 1: my page is eight Compton on inch the gram you

1461
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: can check us out at you can need to check

1462
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: us out on my page on Chills page Chill or

1463
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 1: CMW the Boomdocks. We got a blue stamp Official which

1464
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:15,480
Speaker 1: is the website. Uh, merchandise on that. We got merchandise,

1465
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: We got hats, we got CDs, we got everything cracking.

1466
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: So uh going near order up some ship. I mean

1467
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: the new records is out. I got a record getting

1468
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: ready to drop called Official. Chills, got a project getting

1469
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: ready to drop called foehead. Um. We're working on some

1470
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 1: other stuff. Like I said, we got a conference most

1471
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: wanted record we just dropped called Gangster Business. So we're

1472
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: just trying to move still keeping a gangsters. There's somebody

1473
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: that's trolling on every video that I put out on

1474
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: street TV about get M album. Is every video I

1475
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: think I've seen a couple of This guy hits my

1476
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: channel up at least like ten times per interview. That's true.

1477
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: That that's a true fan. Yeah, he's really pushing you

1478
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: whoever that that's that's a true fan. I eat it

1479
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: right there, definitely, all right, So he's still keeping it

1480
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: um Gangster Blue Stamp Official the website Blue Stamp. Blue

1481
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: Stamp Official is the website, and we're about to start

1482
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: this podcast. To man, it's coming. So yeah, we're about

1483
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: to do that. It's called staff Spot Radio. So we're

1484
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: gonna get that cracking um probably in the next month

1485
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: or two. We're just trying to put it together right now.

1486
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: So we we got a lot of things coming, man.

1487
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 1: We got more stuff coming in just music, man, we

1488
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: got a lot more to offer. What kind of what

1489
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: kind of content you gonna have on your part. Now

1490
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about you know, uh, you know,

1491
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: hip hop pass and presents. We're gonna be talking about

1492
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 1: you know, hip hop news. We're gonna be talking about

1493
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: health and hip hop and and find and financial ship

1494
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: and and you know health. I gotta do that, be

1495
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: in the in the gym all the time, trying to

1496
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: put you down on the health and the good eating

1497
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: ship and spots where to eat at black owned businesses

1498
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: in the city that we funk with, you know, trying

1499
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: to just give people an insight on something different than

1500
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 1: just rap music. You know what I'm saying. Real quick,

1501
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: real quick, before we wrap it up. You mentioned earlier

1502
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: everyone that comes into the game is gonna get ripped

1503
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: off at some point in the beginning. How do we

1504
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: avoid that for the future artists that young late teens

1505
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: coming into the game, or is that just inevitable. Every

1506
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: artist that's new is gonna get ripped off. I mean

1507
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: in my days now now nowadays the game is wide open,

1508
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: so you can prevent some of those pitfalls because a

1509
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: lot of dudes can control all their own ship right now.

1510
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,560
Speaker 1: But back in my days, in order for you to

1511
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: get on, you have to go through somebody, you know,

1512
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: so either dude signed you the production deals or management

1513
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: deals or whatever, and you never got the right accounting

1514
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: on royalties. You never got to You know. We were

1515
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: young naive cats, you know. And I could say that

1516
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: for myself. I was the young naive motherfucker. I was

1517
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: seventeen years old when I signed a major label deal,

1518
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, And I supposed to you you couldn't have

1519
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: your parents permission. You have to have your parents permission

1520
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: to sign the deal. I didn't do that. I signed

1521
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: a fucking record deal. I didn't give a fuck, but

1522
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,560
Speaker 1: I signed a production deal. What I known. You know,

1523
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: he knew that ship and we got fucked. Period. Now

1524
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: do you guys own all of Comfortence? Most wanted those

1525
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: four albums? Those are owned by Epic because we were,

1526
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: like I said, we were young naive kid. We didn't

1527
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 1: know ship about publishing and writers and all that motherfucker's

1528
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: was still in all that ship. We was just some

1529
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: young niggas from Campton who had dreams of riding in

1530
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: the fucking limo and putting a gold chain on our

1531
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: neck and doing a video. We didn't know the pitfalls

1532
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: and contracts and managers and publishing and splits and all that,

1533
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 1: and knowing that you get paid if you write your

1534
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 1: own motherfucking material because we was writing all on ship.

1535
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: Nobody ever wrote our own ship, but other motherfucker's was

1536
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: getting the publishing, So you'd have to buy your own

1537
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 1: music back from him if you wanted it. Yes, and

1538
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: that's the probably. It's not even an offering, definitely not.

1539
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: Why would they do that. We're making, motherfucker we get

1540
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: the motherfucking licensed this ship out and do all this

1541
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: other ship. So do you think that ownership of someone

1542
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: else's art should expire after a while, even though you

1543
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: know they did do I'm sure they did a lot

1544
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: of things for your career, but at some point should

1545
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: that ownership expiring and go back to the original artists?

1546
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: I feel, especially if you write and everything, you should

1547
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: have ownership of your ship. Like you didn't write this ship,

1548
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: you didn't produce the music. So why should just the

1549
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: motherfucker who basically is giving you a loan or an

1550
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: investment because they won't they returned, right, So why should

1551
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: they be able to declare eighty percent of your fucking,

1552
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: your fucking art or your work. Okay, you give me

1553
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: an investment, not pay you back. Now you want to

1554
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: control of the funds, and that's forever, right, like y'ad

1555
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 1: damn some of them is, you know, forever. Some motherfucker's

1556
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: may cut you a deal seven years or eight years

1557
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: or whatever. But still, like, why should you get to

1558
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: collect money off of the ship? I thought up in

1559
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 1: the wrote like that's crazy. Take your investment back or

1560
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then let's go from there. But a

1561
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: lot of us ain't smart, like I said, a lot

1562
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: of us just had dreams of trying to make it

1563
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: and get out, you know, so we didn't have the

1564
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: knowledge to get managers or lawyers or motherfucker's in our corner.

1565
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: It was like steying on the dotted line. Hell yeah,

1566
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 1: like a motherfucker's saying, here go your forty ounce and

1567
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 1: your gold chain. Nigger, here come to limol around the

1568
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: corner and they can take your ride around the corner.

1569
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: They you made it, and we was like fuck yeah.

1570
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: We didn't start learning about the business and publishing and

1571
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: ship till after, Like you said, we're still sitting at

1572
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: motherfucking home and got three fucking albums out and touring

1573
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: the fucking country and shipping, and we were getting off

1574
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 1: the plane, we're going back to mom's house, pulling up

1575
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: in the garage. Something the funk ain't right, especially when

1576
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: the nigga righting. I'm writing all my fucking own music.

1577
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: So why ain't we getting them hundred thousand dollar advances

1578
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: and them two hundred and fifty dollars. That's because another

1579
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 1: nigga was collecting it. Another motherfucker collecting the money and

1580
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: pocketing in and here go, Hey, take this three grand,

1581
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 1: take this four grand. But ship to a young hustler

1582
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: who on the block every fucking day, Nigga, folk grand, Nigga, Please,

1583
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm not to swap me with khakis and white teas. Nigga,

1584
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: give me a couple of packs to flip. Nigga, rent

1585
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: me a cluck car ship for about sixty piece a night.

1586
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: Nig I'm on you was actually wearing house shoes on

1587
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 1: one of your videos. I was shopping at the swap

1588
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: me mall. Look at that ship costs a hundred two

1589
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for some ship. If we don't go get

1590
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: you some motherfucking you, don't go get you some cortels,

1591
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 1: a couple of pair of khakis, some a pack of

1592
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 1: white teas and maybe maybe, and now you was bawling

1593
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: if you was able to get you a hoodie too,

1594
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,560
Speaker 1: But usually you got your motherfucking couple of packs of

1595
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: white tease, a couple of pair of khakis, get you

1596
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: some of them cortess and maybe a cap and nigga,

1597
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: you nigga that sid sneake skin belt nigging you in, Nigga,

1598
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: that's the most expensive. What about the silk shirt? We wasn't.

1599
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't affordable. Man, You gotta manage cause, nigga, you

1600
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: still you still gotta get you a sack now too.

1601
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 1: You gotta get you a little nickel bag or something.

1602
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 1: And then for us who was on the block, we

1603
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 1: got to get a fifty pack. Nigga. That wasn't. That wasn't. Man.

1604
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 1: When you're working with limited funds, there's certain ships you

1605
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 1: gotta do. So you have to follow that colde. Nigga.

1606
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: Can you stretch a double up into a triple up?

1607
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:48,560
Speaker 1: If you cut it right, and you you're gonna be

1608
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna be out all night. Yeah, because you're gonna be.

1609
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna be sitting up in the car or somewhere

1610
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: on the nigger it's gonna be cold. It's motherfuck about

1611
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning. But you know somebody coming through.

1612
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: Remember when you're coming, they're coming. I don't give a

1613
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 1: funk they coming. I don't give a damn. It might

1614
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: be six of us on the block, but fucking nigga,

1615
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: we're rushing the car. Whoever got the goods, he gonna

1616
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,799
Speaker 1: choose and pick and nigger. That's it now. I remember

1617
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: in the late eighties, if you had an ounce, you

1618
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 1: might have paid five hundred four and the and the

1619
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: goal was who can cut who can cut more than

1620
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 1: a thousand out of it? Who can get eleven? Who

1621
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 1: can get twelve? And if you if you was a

1622
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 1: master with that razor blade, and that's that's daddy, that's

1623
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 1: rich right there. Richard was mastered with that razor blade.

1624
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 1: That montherfuck cut it down the motherfucking thirteen thousand pieces. Ever,

1625
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 1: we're coming down thousand pieces of a man. All nickels,

1626
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 1: they can fuck my nigga, want the full fucking extent

1627
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:56,480
Speaker 1: of that motherfucking double up. I'm fucking cutting this motherfucking

1628
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: this ounce all the way. I'm gonna be here from

1629
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 1: motherfucker and four o'clock in the afternoon to tomorrow. You

1630
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: can probably get out of the ounce cutting all Nichols

1631
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 1: and if you're gonna sell them, fucking they're gonna come through.

1632
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: You just gonna be there all fucking night, all right,

1633
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: m C We're gonna be looking out for stash Spot Radio. Indeed, James,

1634
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna check it out. We appreciate you coming

1635
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 1: against Chronicle all day. Man, you know it's been a minute.

1636
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: You know, people have been asking me to come through.

1637
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 1: So Ship, I'm like, fun it, let's do it, man. Man,

1638
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm we'll be moving man. I'm what it is. Man.

1639
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: I've been coaching football, man for the last fucking but

1640
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: ten years. So when you're working with kids and football

1641
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: and schedules and you're the head coach and you know,

1642
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 1: you gotta be at the park at five o'clock till

1643
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: nine o'clock at night, and then you gotta travel and

1644
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 1: then you got thirty kids on the team, and you know,

1645
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: it's a lot. But that was something that I started doing.

1646
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,719
Speaker 1: So it was taking a lot of my time because

1647
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 1: I was like music. Ship was still there, but niggas

1648
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: was letting other niggas do what they do because music

1649
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: just started turning crazy for a minute, so I was like, man,

1650
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something else for a minute. So having

1651
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 1: a son and him coming up and started playing football

1652
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 1: since he was five years old, that was something I

1653
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: got into. So that took a lot of my time.

1654
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 1: But I hooked up with my men Big Steal, and uh,

1655
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 1: we just started getting the cracking from there. So we're

1656
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: gonna do Stash spot Radio and he got me to

1657
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 1: come up here and do Gangster Chronicles and I did

1658
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 1: Still in the Spotlight. So I'm just trying to get

1659
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 1: out there and get it moving. Yeah, that's Still in

1660
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,879
Speaker 1: the Spotlight is right now on the Digital Soapbox Network.

1661
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: So after you finished listening and watching this episode, go

1662
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 1: check out that episode of m C eight as well.

1663
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 1: And on that note, we're out