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Speaker 1: Quest left show is a production of iHeart Radio. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like people will be more honest when there's

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Speaker 2: like not people in the rooms. Oh well, especially with

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Speaker 2: these lineup questions, Oh shit, what is happening right now?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to see how long it was going to

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Speaker 2: take here we started cracking up. My guest today has

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Speaker 2: one of my favorite laughs of all time. Actually sounds

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Speaker 2: like she's crying every time she laughed. But anyway, our

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Speaker 2: guest today has probably come to your attention, whether you

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Speaker 2: know it or not. I credit her with seating the

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Speaker 2: concept that we now today casually know as black Twitter.

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Speaker 1: And you got to own this and I'm owning it.

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Speaker 3: I hear you.

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Speaker 1: You gotta own it.

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Speaker 2: If you are a television watcher like I am, you

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Speaker 2: probably watched one of the mini shows that she's had

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Speaker 2: a hand either executive producing or consulting or writing for

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Speaker 2: either or be it Scrubs or The Boondocks or The

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Speaker 2: Jellies that should have never went off the air.

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Speaker 1: I love the Jellies, the Last Og. There's also Bigger

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Speaker 1: and Till Death and Oh mixed It.

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Speaker 3: Ginny and Georgia, Tonda, Yes No, No, Jenny and Georgia

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Speaker 3: alsold and the other black Girl.

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Speaker 1: No, you're all over the place.

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Speaker 2: She has authored best selling books mixed of course The

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Speaker 2: Broke Diaries. But I saw a post of hers that

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Speaker 2: sort of compelled me to invite her.

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Speaker 1: We didn't quite plan.

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Speaker 2: This so instantly. She asked, like, who didn't show up

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Speaker 2: for me to show up? But I saw a post

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Speaker 2: of hers, maybe like two months ago, where she's sort

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Speaker 2: of skittish in celebrating the winds in her life and

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Speaker 2: knowing the kind of the basis for which, or at

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Speaker 2: least the cathartic process for which.

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Speaker 1: This book that she's authored is for. I think that

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Speaker 1: now's probably the most apropos time to celebrate our great

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Speaker 1: friend of the show, Angela Nissel. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm amazing man. We went from laughing to crying real quick.

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Speaker 3: You got here.

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Speaker 2: You're about to be like, by the way, the book

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Speaker 2: is good Grief Past the Bread Mom is Dead is

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Speaker 2: getting critical acclaim.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And by the time this airs, this will have already

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Speaker 2: been a bestseller. I don't know when this will be

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Speaker 2: on the air, but you know soon, it'll be on

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Speaker 2: the air soon, all right, So I'm gonna ask you

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Speaker 2: a barrage of questions. It's not rapid fire, but of

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Speaker 2: this latest style of question I've been going.

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Speaker 1: For this show, this is probably the most rogue I've

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Speaker 1: ever gotten. Let's start with give me your earliest memory. Technically,

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Speaker 1: what would you call the part of Philadelphia that you

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Speaker 1: grew up in? People would say it's Southwest Philly, but

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Speaker 1: isn't known isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Used to be known as Eastwick because we thought we

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Speaker 1: But remember it used to be the suburbs.

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Speaker 3: It was like, but people didn't even realize it exists.

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Speaker 4: But now I look, I was like, these are just

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Speaker 4: regular Southwest Philly homes.

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Speaker 2: I think in ninety seven, so there was a point

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Speaker 2: where like places like Chester Yayden, like wherever the trolleys

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Speaker 2: of I'll say ninety seven very silently, I think ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: Is the year that the gentrification process happened, and I

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Speaker 1: saw this all over the United States.

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Speaker 2: So places that we would visit back in ninety three

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Speaker 2: ninety four were like no longer, They're like, suddenly projects

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Speaker 2: people were trading places and they would place inner city

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Speaker 2: black folk into what we thought was the suburbs, and

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, the last time I drove, I actually

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Speaker 2: yourself rolling up the window, but you don't want.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to be racist. To get Jophie, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: we grew up.

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Speaker 3: With a strip mall, and it's like, what you got

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Speaker 3: You mean we really thought we was doing something.

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Speaker 1: It was life to live out there.

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Speaker 2: I felt special when Thriller premiered on MTVS, like going

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Speaker 2: to the suburbs, the Uncle Juney's house and now.

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Speaker 4: Man, right, okay, but I wasn't that good, but I

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Speaker 3: We don't live on It's like that's what made us

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So like, what is your earliest memories of living

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Speaker 4: My mom mourned me when we moved, when we moved

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Speaker 4: to that part of town that if I saw a

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Speaker 4: group of white boys to run.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she said that.

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Speaker 3: Yes. You don't remember what Southwest Philly was going through

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Speaker 3: in the eighties. The KKK march there.

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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know it was like that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they had.

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Speaker 4: An interracial couple moved in and a black couple moved in,

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Speaker 4: and it was all in the district of the church.

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Speaker 4: I went to Catholic school, and it was like some

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Speaker 4: wanna say sixty something in Woodland for anyone who knows Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: And once the black couple moved in and the interracial

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Speaker 3: This was huge news that you can still google it today.

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Speaker 4: And so then the KKK came through and they started recruiting,

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Speaker 4: and every day when I would be on the trolley,

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Speaker 4: I would just think, don't let anybody chase me home, Like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy. So that's sad, but that is

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Speaker 3: my first memory. Sorry, let's get back to me after this.

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Speaker 2: I'm laughing at that because I had it all wrong

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Speaker 2: because again, I thought that was the nice part of

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Speaker 3: That is hilarious.

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Speaker 4: No, And I didn't realize we were the Gentriman cake

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Speaker 4: like you were the fire.

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Speaker 1: You were, like, why we got to run? You're now

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Speaker 1: a pioneer. You're a pioneer. There wee year did you

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Speaker 4: We moved like it's like eighty one and I lived

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Speaker 3: My mom fabally moved out of.

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Speaker 1: So technically, where did you come from? Like where were

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Speaker 3: Born in West Philadelphia?

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Speaker 1: My West Philly?

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Speaker 3: Yes, can you name the block fifty six? And oh

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Speaker 3: my god, Catherine, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Like real West Philly?

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Speaker 3: What the hell?

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Speaker 1: This is the thing?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: Like again, you were like the special girl that lives

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Speaker 4: My mom would be proud of that though, because that's

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Speaker 4: what she wanted us to believe. But when I look

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Speaker 1: You had a flintstone car.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, like we can only get out of one door.

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Speaker 3: But she it's all about don't pay attention to that.

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Speaker 3: Get in school.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I'm glad that someone else had

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Speaker 2: that experience. So during the summer of ninety three, when

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Speaker 2: we were having like a seven label bidding war and

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Speaker 1: So rich Richard Nichols took like three.

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Speaker 2: Hundred bucks to get a station wagon and kind of

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Speaker 2: a middle passion style shut up, no, no, no, We piled

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Speaker 1: But when I tell you, the core, like the level,

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Speaker 1: I can't even do it now.

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Speaker 2: Example, but Tik's stomach was like rock solid, like all

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Speaker 2: the skinny people basically had to sit for an hour

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Speaker 2: this is the roots auditioning for deaf jam. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that car died maybe two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I never knew that story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not one of the happiest moments of

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Speaker 3: Well, I remember how long it took you to get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you know.

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Speaker 4: I remember this because we picked up Erica I Badu

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Speaker 3: You had nobody else to pick her up. And I

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Speaker 4: Pulling around, her eyes kind of like, and then you

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Speaker 1: You talked me out of all right. So there was

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Speaker 2: And I'm about to tell this story, all right, I

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Speaker 2: is February twenty third, when things fall apart comes out

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Speaker 2: and the whole goal of the roots was literally for

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Speaker 2: us to walk home from Kapa. And and this is

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Speaker 2: I kind of blame boys to men for this one time.

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Speaker 2: I saw Mike McCarry in the gallery. And you live

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Speaker 2: like Juicy Couture became like the adopted where of like.

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Speaker 2: Like some strippers, but they'll have an outfit that we'll

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Speaker 2: try to you know know, like sort of a blow

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Speaker 2: that everyone wears, like the rhyin stones and the hoodie

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Speaker 2: Mike had like literally like dark glasses, two hoodies on

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Speaker 2: he couldn't give me a pound of it. Well, I

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Speaker 2: and I don't know. I went home at night like yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when we had an inkling that this album was

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Speaker 2: we gotta play the gallery.

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Speaker 1: And they're like, just why don't you play in Tower Records,

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Speaker 1: like a place.

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Speaker 2: Where a wholes Like nah, man, it has to be

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Speaker 2: the record store in the gallery. Like I wanted a pageant,

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Speaker 2: I wanted a people lined up or whatever.

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Speaker 1: He got that moment.

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Speaker 2: So we were supposed to be there at like eleven

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Speaker 2: You literally said like, man, you're gonna do that dumb

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Speaker 2: And like I had to fall in love with someone

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Speaker 1: Well? The money was great.

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Speaker 2: The money was awesome, So I was like, hell, y'all

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Speaker 3: Did you think I was just gonna pull you down

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Speaker 2: I thought like, if they're coming to quest Love, I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: And the day before they had the call, well, they

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Speaker 1: This is the unspoken.

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Speaker 2: Part is what we're not We won't laugh at. Dawn

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Speaker 2: Let's just say that Dawn does not look like you

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Speaker 1: She's not white. So what else we got out there? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And so I was forced to get my permit and

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Speaker 2: But yes, you you talked me out of Hey, I

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Speaker 4: But also, why didn't I just tell you to get

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Speaker 4: What would I want you to do? Catch the subway?

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Speaker 2: You didn't do the wagging finger thing. But the shame,

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Speaker 2: And I let you talk me into taking my car

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Speaker 4: So what's funny is I love that computer more than

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Speaker 4: I would have loved a car. You would have never

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Speaker 1: Oh you house, you and the house way more than

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Speaker 1: I was. You let Malick in the house.

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Speaker 3: Hold up.

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Speaker 1: You literally were on the road once and I heard

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Speaker 2: I was like, yo, not only that, Malick leaked a

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Speaker 1: I think the first time the song got leaked, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like we that's why I took quick Sam Millennium

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Speaker 4: So you see, this is why friends shouldn't work together,

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Speaker 4: because like Eddie, you would have had like, hey, here's

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Speaker 3: Going on tour.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I didn't know this was a billion dollar

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that I.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Malick, right, I now see that you were running

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of inside baseball talk.

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Speaker 4: Yo.

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Speaker 1: What TV show defined your childhood?

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Speaker 3: Different strokes? Which is that sad?

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Speaker 1: It depends on which character you are. Who did you

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Speaker 3: Wait, because this is gonna be this is so he could.

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Speaker 4: Be Charlene and not the answer you're looking for. I

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Speaker 3: Ever going to get. There was an episode where I

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Speaker 1: Oh, don't bring up that episode.

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Speaker 3: No. I thought, my brother always gets to see boobs.

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Speaker 3: Boobs are all the way, always on TV.

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Speaker 4: Boobs were everywhere in the eighties like you could, and

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Speaker 1: On that episode.

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Speaker 3: I was young.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, I don't even want to explain to people. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Ah yo, And you know what, I actually rewatched that

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Speaker 2: Like the way they busted in it was sort of like,

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Speaker 1: and this all right?

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Speaker 2: In junior high, were you a shy kid or were

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Speaker 1: You the teacher's pet.

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Speaker 4: I think I was the class clown because I just

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Speaker 4: want we changed school so much. Whatever school my mom

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Speaker 4: and that was the one. So I went to Mastermin

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Speaker 4: I just remember thinking, when I get to Master.

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Speaker 4: I also felt the pressure because it was Mastermin is

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Speaker 2: Wait, okay, So when we first met at our job,

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Speaker 2: I found out you were nerdy, I like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: There's always been nerdy girls in the hood.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's funny, is my mom tried to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so when and sits next to me At my job.

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Speaker 2: Many of you know that I took on a telemarketing

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Speaker 2: were new and I got your number, and when I

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Speaker 1: Yes for the last digit.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: And I looked at this thing and realized, wait, what

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Speaker 2: is the last digit of your original home phone number?

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00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: I don't even remember you remember the whole thing?

450
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: Well, I know it's two on five, three sixty five,

451
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know the.

452
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, it was the original one wasn't nine.

453
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: So I went it was already eight o'clock, and my

454
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: dumb ass is like, d zero, no, one no.

455
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: And when I finally got.

456
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: To you, you laughed, you laugh, And I lied to

457
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: you and said, well, you know, I just went backwards

458
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 2: and was like I started at one and literally had

459
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: to work my way up to So when she asked

460
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 2: me to sign my first book, I did the same

461
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 2: this is my old number, so it doesn't work it.

462
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: So I did the same thing that she did to me,

463
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 2: which was put a question mark. All right, So what

464
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 2: teacher in your school experience do you feel like, really

465
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 2: like saw you.

466
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: Who's the teacher that like changed you?

467
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 4: The school you taught me to go to. Her name

468
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 4: is Missus Pritchett, The Schools Britchett.

469
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, okay, you told me to go to Performing Arts.

470
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 4: You told me I was going to another one of

471
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 4: those fancy schools. My mom was like, this is the one,

472
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 4: but we can't afford it. So I was working at

473
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 4: RMA change with you, and then you said you should

474
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 4: go to Performing Arts. And I remember she sat me

475
00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 4: down and she gave me the most loving, yet honest

476
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 4: speech about what makes good writers. She's like, you're a

477
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: little off, but it's all. She compared me to her

478
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 4: cousin who's a little off but a little great writer.

479
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: And she was just giving me one of those speeches

480
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: that people given the movies, like I believe in your kid.

481
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 3: You got this, you know.

482
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: Oh everyone's always looking forward to be the savior of like,

483
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: but no.

484
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 3: One said that to the writing majors. We were the nerds.

485
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, Okay, you know now at

486
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: Kappa there's like nine majors. Wow.

487
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even know there could be nine majors.

488
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean at the time, you were either dance,

489
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: you were TV radio like production, like if you wanted

490
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: to be a cameraman or that person on the other

491
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: side of that acting. And in music you were either

492
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: in the choir or in the band. And then there

493
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: was creative writing majors, and we just never knew, like

494
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: what would you guys do, like walk me through a

495
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 2: day at Kapa, because I never was. You were the

496
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 2: only person I was friends with from creative writer.

497
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 3: That says it, all, right.

498
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: Are you the most successful person out of like who

499
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: else has done notable things in creation?

500
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 4: It's so funny because I always see your name and

501
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 4: I don't see any creative writers.

502
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: There were some good writers. Literally, what we did.

503
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 4: A lot of grammar, a lot of reading other and

504
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 4: I agree to be a good writer, you have to read.

505
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: But back when we were in school. I'm like, did

506
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 3: they at least diversify a little bit what we read?

507
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: I was like, if we see the usual tilia a

508
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: big Gilga mission?

509
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 3: But no it was.

510
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 4: And then it certainly prepared me for Hollywood because ninety

511
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: nine percent would be rewriting, Like you know, just write

512
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 4: something and work on it the whole week to try

513
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 4: to make it better. But at that point in your life,

514
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 4: you're just working to get the A. There was one

515
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 4: teacher who loved whenever I wrote about the Holocaust, I

516
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 4: could write anything.

517
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: She had her pride, you know, so I was like,

518
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 3: this is a guaranteed day. Yeah, that's Hollywood.

519
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: Do you have Miss Silva ever?

520
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: Or was she going Miss Silva? No?

521
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: Was she there in school?

522
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: I think so? Yes?

523
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. She She would have like one big giant college

524
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: word per year that was like over three syllables and

525
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: four syllables, and then she said it so much that

526
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: it stuck to you and then you found ways to

527
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: try to drop it in, you know, but the rest

528
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: of your grammar isn't good. So I'll be like around

529
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: the way like.

530
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so if you could you know what

531
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, you know, recapitulate you know what you

532
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: just said, then I'll just like, hell you talking about it?

533
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: Like literally, Miss Silva was that person?

534
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: You never had her?

535
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 3: No, But I love.

536
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 4: How good your brain is because to me, all of

537
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 4: these people are background noise to getting beat up on

538
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: the boys and end video set and thinking a mayor

539
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,479
Speaker 4: told me to come to this.

540
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 2: Oh god, wait, did you guys ever have like normal

541
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: things like high school dances or anything?

542
00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: Did you guys have it.

543
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 3: My version of Kappa? No, there weren't enough boys one.

544
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: That's why my mom said I could go.

545
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 5: Oh she knew you would not get pregnant.

546
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: She came to my audition. She was like, all gay and.

547
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: All right, did you know your grandparents at all?

548
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

549
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, what were they?

550
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: Like? Whoa?

551
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 4: They were your typical move up from the South, don't

552
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: show any emotions, drink quietly, black.

553
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: People yes, boomers and black people yes.

554
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 4: Move into West Philadelphia when West Philadelphia High is still

555
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 4: half white, and then by the time you get out, it's.

556
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 3: Like what happened?

557
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: Wait, West Philly was half white.

558
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: It was Overbrooks. Sorry, my mom went to Overbrooks.

559
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: I was about to say, oh, by the way, all right,

560
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: so I'm getting my mural. And I didn't know that

561
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: West Philly is now apartments and so West Willy High

562
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: it is yeah for my face to be on the

563
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 2: West Philly High Wall. Well, the place that I was

564
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: when I was driving by there, that was like lean

565
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: on me.

566
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: That was like a prison.

567
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 4: I go there now. Wait, I went up near to

568
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 4: where I used to live, and my mom used to

569
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: be like, be careful out there. You know, people selling

570
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 4: stuff on the street. And I said, oh my god,

571
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: that has gentrified.

572
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: Like okay, So when you go to Philly, do you

573
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: chase ghosts? Do you?

574
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

575
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: All Right?

576
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: When I go to Philly, even if I'm in New

577
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: York and I got like a good twenty four hours off,

578
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: I'll get in the car and I will drive to

579
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 2: Philly and chase. Chasing ghost for me is just going

580
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 2: to my Grandmam's neighborhood. I never get out the car.

581
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: I just sit there and Jack Meyer's you know fruit stand,

582
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: and that's where Nana used to send me to get bread.

583
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: And this is where we built the basketball court. But

584
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: I used to always ridicule youah, hear like basketball players

585
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 2: going back to the old projects. Yes, And then something

586
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: bad happens and you're like, dumb motherfucker, like why would

587
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: you go back? But I find myself doing the same

588
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: thing every time. Like what I really love to do though,

589
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 2: Like my all time favorite shit is if it's winter

590
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: and I have like a hood one, I will actually

591
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: get on the thirty six, No, dude, the way to

592
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: produce tears with me, you know, the former Warner Makers

593
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: or Macy's. Oh god, I hate when I date myself

594
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: like that.

595
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: Back in nineteen twenty two, it was a Macy's. You

596
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: know when you go to the thirteenth Street L and

597
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: the trolley thing, you know that art mural where it's

598
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: like it looks like the Whiz logo but it's like red,

599
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: green and black.

600
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: No, like, oh I kind of remember it.

601
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's artwork. It's like this mural thing. It's been

602
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: there forever. It's been there since like when I was

603
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: in first grade, like seventy six, And I will get

604
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: on a thirty six sit and go all the way

605
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: to the end and east Wick or whatever.

606
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 4: The right the nice part of Southwest God.

607
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: And then circle around come back to to the end

608
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: of the line. Then I'll get on the L and

609
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: do the whole entire trip. Matter of fact, of the pandemic.

610
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: I would go on YouTube. Do you know there's people

611
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: that like document entire train rides of the L.

612
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: From the front. I'm backing up.

613
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: I'm like famous people. They're different than us. You couldn't

614
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: pay me to get on the L or on the

615
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: train on my day off.

616
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: When all right, so the day that we decided what

617
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: was it, March thirteenth, the day that we decided the

618
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: world was going to shut down. Yes, and there's this

619
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: whole apocalypse like revelation thing in the air.

620
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, my last act. I ran to.

621
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: Gods we used to get a cheese steak, and then

622
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: I ran back to spring Garden and rode the l

623
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: one more time.

624
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 5: And then I had my driver drive me to the farm.

625
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: That I quarantined and in pound Ridge, like this very

626
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: richy Poundridge farm where you know, the people let me

627
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: stay in their guesthouse. But yeah, I don't know why

628
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: I have this obsession with Septa wow, And.

629
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: So I'd sit there.

630
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: One day I discovered I went on YouTube and someone

631
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: had the entire ride there. I probably watched ten hours

632
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: worth of train stops.

633
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: There's one from like nineteen seventy nine.

634
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 4: That says more about your age than anything else. You said,

635
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: you and my husband just other people's experiences.

636
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: I've had enough of my own. I'm just going to

637
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: turn on YouTube and it's literally just trains.

638
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: Well, okay, do you not have a recurring all right?

639
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: So the recurring dream I've had before, like therapy, finally

640
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: went away. No, there's a reason why. I'll say that.

641
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: From from tenth grade probably until I was like forty five, it's.

642
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: The same dream.

643
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: I'm on the l headed home, and it's the most

644
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: dreaded bad report card day, feeling like whatever, feeling that

645
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: makes you want to stall not to go home.

646
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: You ever been suspended from school or whatever? No, oh,

647
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: that's right, you're a nerd. No, you said, beat my ass.

648
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: Right, No, I have bad report cards before, or you know,

649
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: you got to see or whatever. But I would dream

650
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: that I was in school and I'm always failing and

651
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it when I get home.

652
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: But I never get home.

653
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: But I'm perpetually between thirteenth Street and fifty second Street.

654
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: And that was like the dreams I would have from

655
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: like maybe fifteen till forty five, Like the last ten

656
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: years of my life, I've been free of that.

657
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: But how I'm like, that's abnormal. I have that dream

658
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: at least once a month for real.

659
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: Do you have the same recurring dream.

660
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: It's the same one, except I'm in Kappa And somehow

661
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: they figured out that I haven't graduated, and I got

662
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: to come back at my old age and go back

663
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: and sit there for my diploma.

664
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, but I graduated. Nobody cares.

665
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: Did that happen for Roda?

666
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: No? Never?

667
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: You were like a great student, right, I.

668
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 4: Mean, I yeah, I went to good college, graduated. I mean,

669
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 4: but that it freaks me out, and I still have

670
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: that dream. So wait, I got to get a better therapist, right.

671
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: Mine? Mine is kind of weird.

672
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 2: My dad was doing a residency in Lake City at

673
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: the Tropicana, and I was drumming for him, and you know,

674
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: I didn't have a pager or we didn't have cell

675
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: phones Backfit and Bowser If you remember Bowser from Shanna Na?

676
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: Wow, No, yes you do, She'll just fake it it

677
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: like you don't.

678
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: You're a little bit older than me.

679
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: And have you heard of the group?

680
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: Yes?

681
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: Okay, one of them.

682
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: You've seen Greece okay, yes, yes, there's a whole bunch

683
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: of guys.

684
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: Well, I mean the same thing.

685
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: But he wore all black and he had the low

686
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: voice or whatever anyway, like right, but I mean he

687
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: didn't talk like that backstage, but he's like he's like

688
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: a mirror. There's a phone call for you. And uh,

689
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: who was who is our Do you remember our science teacher?

690
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: Oh? God, no, not mister. I think it was.

691
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 3: Corey, the one that didn't make us do anything.

692
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it begins with a I forget that name.

693
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: And literally is like, mister Thompson, you still have to

694
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: take your your final exam. Don't think doing a residency.

695
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: What your father is going to get you out of this.

696
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: If you are not in class tomorrow at a.

697
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: You're not going to graduate. And literally like I.

698
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: Did the show and dad had to drive me back

699
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: to Philadelphia and I passed by the skin of my

700
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: teeth and so wow. But yeah, so even as a

701
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: good student, you thought you were going to be.

702
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: A bad student.

703
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. I never talked to my therapist. What

704
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: is this dream about. You're the first one that is

705
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: like something so far in our past.

706
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what the bottom line was but okay,

707
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: so more than that, like I decided to I mean,

708
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: it's past therapy. It's also like this whole metaphysical thing

709
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,479
Speaker 2: where you actually have to say, like, you know, I'm

710
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: not in high school anymore, I'm not fifteen. I'm da

711
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: da da, Like I had to do these and literally

712
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: talk it away. So I've not had the nightmare of failing.

713
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: But even as a foty year old, I was about

714
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: to get my ass beat for getting a bad grade

715
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: or whatever. So yeah, all right, because you brought me

716
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: into the tech world. Did you ever have an embarrassing

717
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: AOL or MSN screen name?

718
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 3: God, your memory is so good. I can't remember.

719
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: I remember having an embarrassing one on my Commodore sixty

720
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 4: four back when I was like eleven or twelve.

721
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: Wait you could.

722
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: There were little groups. That's where I first started.

723
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: Wait what year did a guy?

724
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: Ooh, this had to be eighty six, eighty seven?

725
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: And I remember my dad weekend Dad, not even weekend Dad,

726
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: but got you something new that I can't afford? Yay,

727
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 4: And yeah it was like and I just remember.

728
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: So you talk to your friends or a community of.

729
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: Friends, usually strangers, because it was just an all green

730
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 3: screen and you could go into a place called like sewing.

731
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 2: You know, and wait a minute. Okay, go go ahead,

732
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: go ahead. Yess just reminded me of something, no.

733
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 3: Go, because I was the whole thing.

734
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: The first time.

735
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: You introduced me to AOL, like a group community thing. Yes,

736
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: Prince was in the group chat wow, and his screen

737
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: name was white Mansion. But he was an asshole about

738
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: it because if you remember, like AOL had like an

739
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: all white screen. He would type in all white and

740
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: I didn't know how to copy paste so that I

741
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: could see the cryptic message.

742
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: And I think Doug is the one.

743
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: Doug who worked at Oka Player taught me how to

744
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: blacken the screen so I could see.

745
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: And then I asked him like, yo, was that you?

746
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: And He's like, yeah, that was me. So I didn't

747
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: know that Prince was my first time in a group chat.

748
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: What's also crazy is I remember specifically thinking, Wow, do

749
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 4: we get a mirror online? I just had a web

750
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: TV all right, let's start him off for aos.

751
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: Oh man, I miss AOL chat so much, and you

752
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: know people like when people on special like, oh my god, there,

753
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: I do miss the days.

754
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 4: Of There was some mystery to it now I'm just

755
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: like everyone has a video, but I had no idea

756
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: who I was really talking to back then, you know,

757
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 4: and so you could be in a room with Prince

758
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 4: and not know it.

759
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: All right, what's the furthest place you've ever traveled?

760
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: Oh wow, it's probably gonna be with you down to Brazil.

761
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how you did come to Brazil with us? Ah,

762
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: you did come to Brazil. Wait did you go sight seeing?

763
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: Yes with Tina Ferris one time?

764
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: Were you accosted by no kids? Or Okay?

765
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: I made the mistake of like walking by myself and

766
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: someone told me like if you walk by yourself, like

767
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: have a bag of toiletries with you. And I was

768
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: like why and they were like, well, you know, some

769
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: more of the fly ship might happen, and the kid

770
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: might come.

771
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: Up to you and be like Sarah, could you give me?

772
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: And then you'll be like, oh, here kid, and then

773
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: suddenly everyone just pops up. You mean, like the Michael

774
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: Jackson Dad video, like bobbing from nowhere. I wasn't prepared

775
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: so literally, like I had to run my way out

776
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: of there while like seventeen.

777
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: Kids just like please please please, like chase me. H. Yeah,

778
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: so and then I didn't go out after that.

779
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 4: But I'm laughing because y'all must have got They must

780
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: have said, bring whoever you want, because y'all never brought

781
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 4: me to it. It were so many people y'all bought

782
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 4: on that trip.

783
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, So were you there when someone got

784
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: in Tina's face? Were you backstage for this? I was there, okay, okay, and.

785
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: I thought, lord, we all about to be arrested in Brazil.

786
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to out him, but I forget

787
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: what his name was, but he was angry. I think

788
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 2: that we went five minutes over.

789
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 4: Something like that, and I just remember Tina trying to

790
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: handle it and him trying to handle it back, and

791
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 4: all of a sudden.

792
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: Trying to handle Tina.

793
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: And then and then everybody you invited came off like

794
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: you didn't know the route.

795
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: Somehow had twenty five airplane tickets to this thing.

796
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah, that was It was a riot.

797
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 4: And then the toper to that story is he left

798
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: his check on the table and then someone, I will say,

799
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 4: signed we left our check on the table and signed

800
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: his name.

801
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: I didn't do it his room number.

802
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Oh okay.

803
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: In my mind, it was not ego eye cherry. But

804
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: it's someone that's like starts.

805
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: With an F. I'll remind you if I don't want

806
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: to get sued on you.

807
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: I feel getting very nervous right now. What is the

808
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: first thing you do when you check into a hotel?

809
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: As I got older, it is literally see if the

810
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 4: bathroom is clean, because I've been stuck in a hotel

811
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 4: where not where you're like, all of a sudden, you're

812
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: just on You're like, oh man, really yeah, I mean I've.

813
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: Had like, see you a person that has to go

814
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: and clean the hotel before.

815
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 4: I mean, it depends on how I can not clean

816
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 4: it my own if it's like a roadside, but if

817
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 4: it's like a nice one that.

818
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: Hollywood's paying for. No, but that's to me. I've just

819
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: realized growing up in Philly.

820
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: I'm used to everything being old and dirty.

821
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: That's just Philly the fault. I got out here and

822
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: I was like, this is how bathrooms are supposed to look.

823
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: You can have more than one.

824
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So when you're creating, when you're writing what

825
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: four things must you always.

826
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: Have prozac weed? You want me to tell the truth, Yes,

827
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, No, it is it's definitely Weed.

828
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: It's definitely a funny movie to start me off some

829
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 4: a good friend on the phone and actually, now meditation,

830
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: I put that in there.

831
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: So you do that all the time, So you have

832
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: to put intentions and yeah, just miss what.

833
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 4: I mind, not wander and just getting all the other

834
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 4: noise out of my head.

835
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: Okay.

836
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: So I have the hardest time with writing, especially with books,

837
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: so and the way I do it fragment like okay,

838
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 2: this is about whatever.

839
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: Tell me about ninth grade and then you you know, but.

840
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm also like, oh zebra, and then not have anything

841
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: or easily fall asleep and then the computer falls on

842
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: the ground, Like.

843
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: For you, how much straight work can you do without

844
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: any distractions whatsoever?

845
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: See, it's interesting for me because I see you as

846
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 4: somewhat of a perfectionist, and you always come into things

847
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 4: with a plan, and so at least from when I

848
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 4: knew you, and so.

849
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still tightly wound.

850
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: And so that was me too when I used to write.

851
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 4: Then I used to think, why are people like Treik

852
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 4: so happy on weed? And I wasn't forty until I

853
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: tried it, actually tried it with my husband and had

854
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 4: a horrible experience.

855
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: So you're late weed, yes, but it's.

856
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 4: Wonderful for getting outside of your head and just letting

857
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: yourself let go of that tightly wound.

858
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: Stuff post or pre pandemic.

859
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: My husband and I married in two thousand, not two thousand. No, yeah,

860
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute, you need twenty started

861
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: the pandemic, So it's probably twenty nineteen because I remember

862
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: cursing him out. I was like, you don't know, I

863
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: can't handle this was I was so high. I just

864
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 3: but he also taught me how to taper.

865
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: And you and I have the same experiences. But I'm

866
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: an edible person.

867
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 3: Not me too.

868
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: You know what I've tried. We I cannot get high.

869
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 2: I've had a whole thing to myself and it's nothing happens.

870
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 3: I remember when you first went to Amsterdam, Yes, and.

871
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: Did I call you?

872
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 3: Yes?

873
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: You and Dreamhampton Man like, ah, you've seen sides of

874
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: me that the world has never seen before.

875
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh that was hilarious because you were you were

876
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: in the most innocent, like just you know, and you

877
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: were so high it was so funny.

878
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I shouldn't have done that.

879
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: Back then, people were getting arrested for we to wear

880
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: week so that was an experience you wanted to have,

881
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: but you were so high that was a wonderful.

882
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: Yes, all right. Do you talk to yourself when you're alone?

883
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 3: Usually not outside my head?

884
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: No, just inside your head? Yeah yeah, but never like

885
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: out loud as in no, unless.

886
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: It's like I want my husband to kind of leave

887
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: me alone for a little while, and.

888
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't expected that part. Are you a window seat

889
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: or an alca person?

890
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 4: Oh?

891
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 5: See?

892
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 4: This captures both sides of me because I don't like

893
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: asking people to get up when I have to pee,

894
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 4: you know.

895
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: But I really like looking out the window. We're a pie,

896
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 3: we're on a plane.

897
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: So I always picked the because I don't want an

898
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 4: inconvenience anybody else.

899
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're an own person. Okay.

900
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: Have you ever considered moving to a place where nobody

901
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 2: knows you have.

902
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 3: To do that? Honestly, my husband and I are talking

903
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: about it, moving to Minnesota. His family is from there,

904
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 3: and I went out there.

905
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 4: And I, oh, well family, but yeah, you mean no

906
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 4: one like not even my husband.

907
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: Well, now you gotta have your husband with you?

908
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 3: What I Yeah, I would love to do that.

909
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 2: Actually, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna change your life right now.

910
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: Okay, So here's you nude when you don't know?

911
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: Okay it is So I went up there once to

912
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: clear a sample.

913
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 3: To Minnesota to Prince's house.

914
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: Oh this is long after he passed. But there's a

915
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 2: place that is called the Orfield Labs. Now Orefield Labs

916
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: was once famous because probably the most notable creation of

917
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: the studio was lips incorporated Funky Town, Won't You Do

918
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: Me Right? Also for Bee Boys, if you're a DJ.

919
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: Kat Stevenson's Dog was a donut was created at this

920
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: very studio. Around nineteen eighty six, I believe they stop

921
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: being a studio for music purposes and they transformed to

922
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: like scientific Audio lab. And what they've invented was they've

923
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: invented two types of rooms and it's very unique. One

924
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: room is a room for which sound will never die.

925
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: So if you clap your hands, you hear the sound

926
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: of that clap like resonate forever. There's a kind of

927
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: a fake chimney thing that they open to let the

928
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: sound go. But in the other room is a the.

929
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: Exact opposite, and it's a silent room.

930
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: Not only was aware of this because again with clickbait

931
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: and social media. You know, it starts with you know,

932
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: can you survive fifteen minutes in the silent room where

933
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: you know, like apparently like you're gonna go crazy. It's

934
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 2: like the equivalent of I mean, you've seen movies where

935
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: people get thrown in solitary comfort.

936
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: Or the padded white room or whatever.

937
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: So long story short is, they put you inside of

938
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: this room and look up or filled labs or silent

939
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: room Minnesota. They sit you in the studio room and

940
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: there's literally no like the noise is sucked out and

941
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: there's no light. The only way I can describe it

942
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: is if you are on the verge of wanting to

943
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: do an ayahuasca journey. This is probably the plant based

944
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: version of it, where you don't have to take anything,

945
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,479
Speaker 2: but the results are the same.

946
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: And what I've discovered was when.

947
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: When you don't have your senses, when you can't see,

948
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: when you can't hear, your brain panics and thinks you're

949
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: about to die. So the first thing your brain does

950
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 2: is it pumps levels of serotonin or dopamine in your head,

951
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: which is kind of what you feel if you were

952
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: to do heroin. And literally like I sat there and

953
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 2: maybe two minutes later and I'm not saying words because

954
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: I saw it, like.

955
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: My hand flashing. I was like, wait, am I hallucinating?

956
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: Like literally, it does something to you. It's one of

957
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: the best spiritual experience.

958
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: Really, because as you were talking, I was like, this sounds.

959
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 2: Like hell again, like because of the hype of are

960
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: you going to survive or not survive? Maybe like after

961
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: three minutes, I'm like, oh, clearly, I'm not going to die.

962
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: Like the first thing you hear is you hear your insides,

963
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: you hear your heart beat, you hear all those things.

964
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: And then when I close my eyes, I see, you know,

965
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: like when we dream, like if like imagine your childhood home,

966
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: you close your eyes and there's my childhood home.

967
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: You see it. To me, that's normal.

968
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: But when I open my eyes and you don't see anything,

969
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: that's when you start to panic.

970
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: Like, wait, am I blind? Am I blind?

971
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: And the dopamine just keeps it puts you in this

972
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 2: very relaxed state.

973
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: I highly reckon.

974
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: No, you know, it's funny, I have turned now.

975
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 4: I was like, because I truly love meditating and the

976
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: way it makes me feel, in the way it grounds me.

977
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, and you know, like people now,

978
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: well they'll do like medicine journeys and all these things.

979
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: And you know, like a lot of us, I'll say,

980
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: for the most part black people who are very skeptical,

981
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: very church. You know, if it's against God, I want

982
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: nothing to do with a mirror, don't come to me

983
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 2: with that. Twenty twenty had us in a place where

984
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: like we were just slightly open to something other than

985
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: kind of this Christian hearing anything that we're going through

986
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: right now. And I will tell you that, yeah, that

987
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: experience alone, and I've been kind of kicking the can

988
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: that like would do in ayahuasca.

989
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: I will eventually do it.

990
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: But for those that are averse to that, this is

991
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: probably the closest thing to it.

992
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: So I'm so.

993
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 3: Proud of you in a weird way, Like seriously.

994
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: I would highly recommend this.

995
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: I'm i just because I remember you didn't drink, you

996
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 4: didn't smoke, you were just and so I know a

997
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 4: lot of people who come up like that that won't

998
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 4: touch anything like aahuasca.

999
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: Or just you know.

1000
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think in the pandemic, we all were

1001
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 6: like fuck it, and we had to there had to

1002
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 6: be something else, you know, I mean it just has

1003
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 6: to be something else, all right.

1004
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: So if you were allowed to go back to the

1005
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: age of ten for one hour, what would you do?

1006
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 4: First thing I think is ride my bike until the

1007
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: very moment the very last street light came on, just

1008
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: because I missed that freedom of just being ten and

1009
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 4: mom and Dad didn't care where you were as long

1010
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 4: as you came back when the street lights were on. And

1011
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 4: I just remember thinking when I had that bike at ten, that.

1012
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: I could almost make it anywhere in the city, you know,

1013
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 3: you just oh, you.

1014
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: Would go off the block into different neighborhoods.

1015
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 4: Like three four blocks, but it felt like bigger because

1016
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 4: it's like I used to have to walk these.

1017
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: You feel a little it's the first time.

1018
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: Having a bike. Yes, you're right.

1019
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 2: Actually I would take my bike and I could make

1020
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: it to like I live on fifty second Street. I

1021
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: think I could make it to pins Landing in like

1022
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: forty five minutes.

1023
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: See if there weren't any cars. I'm like, that's just

1024
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: a dream, just being free.

1025
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: Well, Pine Street was a little bear, so just you know,

1026
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: between Pine Street was a street where I didn't have

1027
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: to worry about like getting here.

1028
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: Who actually did it?

1029
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: Oh? All the time?

1030
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 4: Do.

1031
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'ma do that all the time. What do you

1032
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: consider your bravest act to date?

1033
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 4: Oh, I would have to say moving my mom to

1034
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 4: Los Angeles and you brought her out here to get yes, yes, okay,

1035
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 4: and stealing her away from her.

1036
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: I didn't steal her away, even though he sued me

1037
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: for kidnapping. It's in the book she married. Yo. This

1038
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 3: is what I want to say about.

1039
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 4: They always worried about us and our generation in younger

1040
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 4: on social media and then the older people.

1041
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 3: She met a man, you know, and it's like people

1042
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: need to watch their parents and this technology.

1043
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, she's, you know, falling in love

1044
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: and but the guy is just a scammer.

1045
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: He's a mess.

1046
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: So I picked her up like Prince scam level.

1047
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 4: Except Philadelphian preacher scammer. Like every time every time I

1048
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 4: came home, my mom would be like, well we found

1049
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: out this degree wasn't worth anything. I'll just pull out

1050
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 4: of my pension and send him to another school so

1051
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 4: you can get another degree.

1052
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, I know.

1053
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 3: And so finally, you know, our parents, especially my mom

1054
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: came of age.

1055
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 4: Jim Crow just everything's hard in life, and you know,

1056
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 4: I don't want to be a burden.

1057
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, I'm getting you the hell

1058
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 3: out of here.

1059
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 4: So I moved her in with me while he sued

1060
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 4: the hell out of me back home.

1061
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: But just the same feeling as you had as a

1062
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: kid on a bike.

1063
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 4: It was just the freedom. It was just me and

1064
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 4: her and me taking care of her in this beautiful place.

1065
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: Well it's California like for her, way different than Philadelphia.

1066
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 4: I remember asking her that exact question and she said,

1067
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 4: a lot of Mexicans.

1068
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 3: We did, at least not when I moved.

1069
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 4: You know, early two thousands, Philadelphia was pretty much black

1070
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 4: and white mostly coming up. And you know, she was, yeah,

1071
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 4: so this to her, like people speak in Spanish, She

1072
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 4: was like, you know how people from Philly are at

1073
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 4: least it's going to be an earthquake every day, and

1074
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 4: you know something's.

1075
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: Going to go wrong.

1076
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: But experienced an earthquake.

1077
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 4: No, thank God, because she would have, even though she

1078
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 4: had stage four cancer, she.

1079
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 3: Would have rolled her back to phil.

1080
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: But I think then I remember her saying to me

1081
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 4: once she said, people just seem a lot chiller out here,

1082
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 4: like a lot calmer, And I was like, well, you've

1083
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 4: never been on set with me. Other than that, yeah,

1084
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 4: there's just I'm glad she got to experience that laid

1085
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 4: back kind of California thing, even though she didn't know

1086
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: my house was in foreclosure and all this stuff and

1087
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 4: oh yeah, it's all I don't want to give anything away.

1088
00:52:58,719 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: Literally, there was a.

1089
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 4: Man taken pictures of my house when my mom when

1090
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 4: I finally got off the plane and my mom said,

1091
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 4: who's that?

1092
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 3: I was like, Papa Rozzi, Mom and pop last was

1093
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: somebody coming to make sure the.

1094
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: Condition of the house before they Oh god.

1095
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 4: So not only bringing her there but lying to her

1096
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 4: the whole time so that she would stay there.

1097
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: And she was never the wiser.

1098
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: You know, looking back, I think she.

1099
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: Probably knew, but what was she didn't want to embarrass.

1100
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: I'm stuck here now. I got on the plane.

1101
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: What was what was your twenty twenty like?

1102
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 3: Actually, and I hate saying this, it was great.

1103
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 2: What did you pivot and morph into in twenty twenty

1104
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: that you weren't before?

1105
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: Then?

1106
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 4: I realized I think in twenty twenty. I also got

1107
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 4: married right at the beginning of twenty twenty, and so

1108
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 4: we literally.

1109
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 1: Just picked the place January or February January. Oh my god.

1110
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: So then when the world came doing in.

1111
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm stuck with this money.

1112
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: Y'all stayed together.

1113
00:53:58,920 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: That's what made it great.

1114
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 4: I was like, I picked the right person this time.

1115
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 4: I was like, I actually like this.

1116
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: Was there a close call? Though?

1117
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: Actually no, I.

1118
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 4: Wish I could lie. It was great because he's introducing

1119
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 4: me to more weed. We're sitting there watching the world burn,

1120
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 4: you know. But also it was I was on the

1121
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 4: show Mixed Dish, and I realized how much life I

1122
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 4: lost in commuting every damn day, you know, just getting

1123
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 4: to and from the place where I already have to

1124
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 4: give such mental energy and you don't have a lot

1125
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 4: to give her to a relationship when you're giving it

1126
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: all to others.

1127
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 3: So it also made me think I want to focus

1128
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: more on my personal relationships than career growth all the time.

1129
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: Are you saying in terms of like like we all

1130
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: discovered zoom during that period, So not having to take

1131
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: a two hour trek and sitting on the are you

1132
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: one of these Californias Like I hate the four or

1133
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: five and dead?

1134
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 3: Guess why should I?

1135
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: I love see, I love traffic, I love driving, but

1136
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: I just love.

1137
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 4: My free time even more because I picked up hobbies.

1138
00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 4: I didn't have hobbies before.

1139
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: What did you learn to do? Don't say sourdo please?

1140
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm learning Spanish apprendiendo espaniel really see for dad.

1141
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: What is the most overrated or unsolicited advice that people

1142
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: gave to you as a caretaker? First of all, did

1143
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: you have a circle or at least a threat to

1144
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: fall back on?

1145
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 4: For no, I moved my mom out, was like, come on,

1146
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 4: I'm saving your life. And then someone eventually said, yeah,

1147
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 4: that she's pretty far gone. You can't save her life.

1148
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 4: And I was like, I haven't called City of Hope yet.

1149
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 4: Like that was me, And I think as.

1150
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: A caretaker, people are very taught me to be actively

1151
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 3: caring in terms of make sure how she's not in pain,

1152
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 3: make sure this, makes sure I will and testament are

1153
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 3: in place. But and forgot to tell me to just

1154
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 3: have quiet moments of just asking her questions about her

1155
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: past and even how to frame questions about her past

1156
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: so she talked to me about them. She wasn't my

1157
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 3: mom wasn't a.

1158
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 4: Very like this was my favorite Christmas, so this was

1159
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 4: my favorite time to ask her question.

1160
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: Yes, in my own way, like.

1161
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 4: No, because no, because it just felt like I have

1162
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 4: one recording of her. Okay, But also, my mom passed

1163
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 4: right before video on phones. She was in the people

1164
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 4: were transitioning from flip phones to iPhones, so you had

1165
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 4: to still had She still had to flip Like when

1166
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 4: I text her, she'd be like, what's wrong?

1167
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 3: Was on my screen? And I'm like, I got this iPhone,

1168
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 3: you can text on it. But yet we weren't. And

1169
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 3: I'm actually glad that I didn't, because when I look

1170
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 3: back at how sick she was, I was like, you

1171
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: dumb asshands. You really thought you were going to save

1172
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 3: her life, you know, like it's and I'm like, damn.

1173
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 4: You may have moved to California, but we no one

1174
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 4: taught us to just have that time together. And I think,

1175
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 4: when I look back, that's why she moved out.

1176
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: What was your primary source of comfort, like during this

1177
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: time period, you move your.

1178
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: Out in twenty twenty, and when did she passed?

1179
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 4: Oh no, I moved my mom out in twenty This

1180
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 4: was fifteen years ago, right on the border of iPhones

1181
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 4: and flip phones. Oh okay, yeah, so like twy fourteen,

1182
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen.

1183
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: Okay, and when she passed.

1184
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 3: She passed. She only lived with me for three months.

1185
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah she was Oh damn, yeah, I'm glad you.

1186
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: But I took care of her in Philly too.

1187
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 4: It was but she didn't let me know how bad

1188
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 4: her cancer was, which is something I learned that parents do,

1189
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 4: and her as a nurse, she also knew how to

1190
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 4: hide it, so she would just.

1191
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 3: Tell me, yeah, I got a missect. To me, I

1192
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 3: got another mastectomy and no cancer's going.

1193
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a bother. I don't want

1194
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: to be a burden. I hate when people see that.

1195
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know.

1196
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 4: So then one time she was supposed to come out

1197
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: and see me, and she said, I can't fly the doctor.

1198
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 4: I had to have another little procedure done. So I

1199
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 4: got on a plane and said, what is happening? You

1200
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 4: know what is happened?

1201
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: Did you ambush her?

1202
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 3: Yes, also had.

1203
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 4: To ambush her husband because he was a fake preachers,

1204
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 4: and so they had that hierarchy within the house.

1205
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 3: I'm the man of the house now, and I'm like,

1206
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 3: she just met your.

1207
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 4: Ass and him and my brother ended up throwing down and.

1208
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 3: It got real Philly. They got real Philly.

1209
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: I totally understand that what personal habit.

1210
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: Did you find hard to manage during this period of

1211
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: taking care of your mom?

1212
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 4: Gratitude? I used to practice that. Have my gratitude journal,

1213
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 4: still have it now. Everything was so rushed and life

1214
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 4: just seemed to suck because damn, you know, I haven't

1215
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 4: had an easy road in life anyway, and to lose

1216
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 4: my mom early, you know, it was just but also

1217
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 4: trying to keep her spirits up. I would try to

1218
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 4: think of one thing we could both be grateful for.

1219
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 3: But man, that was hard.

1220
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: That was aging gratitude.

1221
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, even harder when she passed. I was an angry

1222
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 3: motherfucker all the time.

1223
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: During this period of caretaking what one item of clothing?

1224
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: What was your what was your survival uniform?

1225
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 4: You know, I'll never forget because she moved in with

1226
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 4: me and she only bought one suitcase. Because we were

1227
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 4: just like, time is not on our sides. You got cans,

1228
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 4: you got this stage four cancer. I'm going to find

1229
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 4: a really good Hollywood doctor.

1230
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: To cure it. And so we went to Target to

1231
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 3: make a quick run to get the way we see

1232
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 3: someone for cancer. And because my mom was also very frugal,

1233
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 3: which she probably would have went to CVS.

1234
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 4: So she could have or target, but we went to

1235
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 4: get her a nightgown and I got a matching like

1236
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 4: pajama set, and I still have that fifteen year old

1237
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 4: pajama set.

1238
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 3: I keep everything though.

1239
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: This is such an angel in this times and conversation.

1240
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: Is there a song that makes you cry instantly when

1241
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: you hear it?

1242
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 3: This is a weird one too. What was the Luther

1243
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: Van song about Father's.

1244
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: Again?

1245
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 4: Yes, because that's the only song I saw my mom

1246
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 4: ever cry on when her father passed. My mom never cried,

1247
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 4: and I just remember that song coming on the radio

1248
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 4: after her dad died and her crying, and I thought

1249
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 4: I thought of her as a mother for the first time,

1250
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 4: and not just you know, I mean I thought of

1251
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 4: her rather as more than a mother, like someone who

1252
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 4: was something's daughter who was having those feelings, and I

1253
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 4: just remember that a human.

1254
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: Yes, that's swear that Luther's known for many things, but

1255
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: that that one song might be like his signature, his

1256
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: signature song.

1257
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I remember she sent me to a concert

1258
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 4: with her and her friends. They were her babysitters, and

1259
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, they still don't know he's gay.

1260
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 3: I was young.

1261
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: My mom too. What memento keeps your mom's memory alive.

1262
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 4: Woo what oh her nursing id I keep it in

1263
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 4: my bedroom because she was so proud of that thing

1264
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 4: because she was not only an r N, she was

1265
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 4: a BSN actually a science and nursing they put your back,

1266
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 4: you know, yes, yes, but she would always say, you know,

1267
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 4: they don't expect a black woman to be you know,

1268
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 4: So she would always wear that with pride, like when

1269
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 4: someone would try to talk down to her something, it's.

1270
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: You know, I'm like, maybe it's a little elitist, but

1271
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 3: it's also a source of pride. She worked hard for

1272
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: that thing.

1273
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: Got what was the deepest regret of yours during that

1274
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: time period?

1275
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: Did you have any.

1276
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 3: Oh man, that whole time period, Yeah, you know, I

1277
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 3: had a lot.

1278
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 4: I started redecorating my home and remodeling it to make

1279
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 4: a commune so my entire family could move in because.

1280
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: You thought the world was just coming to it in.

1281
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 4: But also I just thought my mom died and I'm

1282
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 4: all alone. I got to move everybody from Philly into.

1283
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: My Oh god, I know, I know. And that was

1284
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: And so then and your marriage is doing to.

1285
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 4: Wait because nobody in Philly's gonna tell you, Yeah, we

1286
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 4: thought it was a good idea when we were all

1287
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 4: in grief.

1288
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 3: When we said that, because your ass was crying.

1289
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: Right for you, we don't want to move.

1290
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 3: All the way out. But I was so deep in

1291
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: grief and just the family is all important. And I

1292
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: moved out to California and everybody's back in Philly.

1293
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,959
Speaker 4: I mean I literally was looking up schools for people

1294
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 4: and all this stuff, and one by one I had

1295
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 4: a falling out with people because I came to the

1296
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 4: realization that was the dumbest idea.

1297
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: But I didn't want to give up on it.

1298
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, you pulled that off.

1299
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm so glad in hindsight that I didn't.

1300
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: One do you create better when you are happy or sad?

1301
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 3: Here is the process I've learned. That's how weed comes

1302
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 3: into play.

1303
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 4: For me.

1304
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 3: Think about all the shit, the deep.

1305
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 4: Shit, like oh, until you can't almost take it anymore,

1306
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 4: you're like, fuck, what is this life?

1307
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: Smoke some weed and think about it again. It works

1308
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 3: for me. I don't know why, because they always say

1309
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 3: the lessons are in the hard part, But when you're

1310
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 3: trying to write through the hard parts, it's just too much.

1311
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 3: At times, I wanted everything to.

1312
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: Be like gaps go by where you didn't write or

1313
01:02:59,280 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: oh god.

1314
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I found myself. My husband was with me

1315
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 4: as I was writing, and I love writing comedy. But

1316
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 4: we know so many great comedians that are miserable and

1317
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 4: who took their own life, and I mean I can

1318
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 4: name some top names out here, and I'm like, oh,

1319
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 4: hanging around with him is like like.

1320
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: Oh, every comedian I know is so it's how you.

1321
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 4: But I I was with my husband at the time,

1322
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 4: he just was just married. We were and I had

1323
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 4: to figure out how not to be depressed all the time.

1324
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 4: And he was like, try some of this.

1325
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 3: This is all that's worked for me.

1326
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what part of yourself are you just rediscovering now?

1327
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 3: Who as a grown asked woman what the hell I

1328
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 3: like to do and not what everybody else wants me

1329
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 3: to do?

1330
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: And my people pleasing whoa you know for real, Like

1331
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that landed because I'm so bad, like

1332
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: I want to do on TV where it's just like

1333
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: no one looks and.

1334
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: Then they I'm always like.

1335
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 3: The man and that the world's not gonna fall apart

1336
01:03:58,640 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 3: when you do it.

1337
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be honest with you.

1338
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: I just learned not only no, like you remember, like

1339
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 2: Rich Nichols used to be just say what he felt. Yes,

1340
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: Tik's that way sometimes Jesus. Yes, literally that part just

1341
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: transforms you. And I was like, wow, this this is

1342
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: the zero fox part of my life, like happening right now.

1343
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 2: But I mean there's a way to not alienate people

1344
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: and still hold your ground and maintain but like literally

1345
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 2: not people pleasing. I didn't know how much like pain

1346
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: in my body, Yes, yes, I was used to those.

1347
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: Things and the throbbing, the throbbing, the throbbing and not

1348
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: knowing that your body's thriving throbbing because you promised that

1349
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: you would do this remix and you don't got time

1350
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: to do it, or you know, come and watch somebody's

1351
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: rough cut of something or whatever. And I'm like, yeah, yeah,

1352
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: I'll check it out, and literally just like wear myself felt.

1353
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, people pleasing is was my Do.

1354
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 3: You think you learned that as a kid.

1355
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people pleasing comes from wanting to be likable.

1356
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And in my case, I think the kind of

1357
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 2: perceived charmed life that I've always seemed to have when

1358
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: I was a kid you have both parents.

1359
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: I went to private school, you get all these all

1360
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: these records of yours.

1361
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: You know, like it just always seemed easy for a

1362
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 2: mirror and then was way easier for questlove. So I

1363
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: think a lot of the times I tried in subconscious

1364
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: ways to make myself relatable by people pleasing and sometimes

1365
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 2: doll myself. A lot of the weight gain was like

1366
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: really trying my best not to be a threat and

1367
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: doll myself as much as I can and still survive.

1368
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: But I think after these series of me finally getting

1369
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: to the bottom of the autism journey, At first I

1370
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: took it as facts like oh, okay, autistic, everyone is altered,

1371
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: But then I really learned, like I don't know, I

1372
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 2: just woke.

1373
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 3: Up one day like, wait, is that an autism trait too?

1374
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, like especially, and it's understandable why I

1375
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 2: think black people have been averse to science or any

1376
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: sort of thing with medical like therapy and all that stuff.

1377
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: This is in allfice. I don't think I have anything

1378
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: that's more unique than anyone else. I'm just like learning.

1379
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 2: This is probably the most I've ever spoken about it

1380
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: in public. But once I know and know that I know,

1381
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: like there's a level freedom there.

1382
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: Oh I love that.

1383
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I highly recommend taking that exam and doing

1384
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: that what do you do for like self care?

1385
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 3: Meditation and hobbies and just going outside. I realized I

1386
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 3: live in a place that it's warm all the time,

1387
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 3: and I was working myself to death so much I

1388
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: never got to experience a warmness because I would be

1389
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 3: until it got night and it got cold. And so

1390
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 3: just really like I always think, how did the first

1391
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 3: people on the earth and people before we even invented mirrors, they.

1392
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 4: Didn't care what they look like, you know, Like it's

1393
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 4: like you listen to the birds. And I had a

1394
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 4: revelation one day when I was in my bed, I

1395
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 4: now wake.

1396
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 3: Up with the birds.

1397
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 4: That's what they made the alarm clocks like after so

1398
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 4: we would wake up when they wanted us to wake

1399
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 4: up and get to our jobs. And just enjoying simple

1400
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 4: stuff like that listening to birds, going like, I love

1401
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 4: old people, man.

1402
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 3: I hang out with them all the time.

1403
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're retired and they just noticed suff This

1404
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 4: guy says, just saw Cooper Hawk up there.

1405
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 3: I'm in I'm like show me. You know, they have

1406
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 3: time and they enjoy stuff.

1407
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: Do you collect anything?

1408
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 3: No, because I my husband collects everything, and I can't stand.

1409
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: Makes them throw away the record collection, not the record

1410
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: of collection.

1411
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 3: But if you have wrestling figures that some of them

1412
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 3: are worth. I look him up to see you. But

1413
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 3: he's also the type my husband is.

1414
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: He's a legend. Also yeah, and so, but he's not.

1415
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 4: I remember when I first saw Tarique take someone's I

1416
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 4: thought someone's giving you their CD. How gracious he was, Like,

1417
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 4: but we were young. But also I understand now as

1418
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 4: a wife who has a husband who people give things,

1419
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 4: but he doesn't.

1420
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 3: He keeps them all.

1421
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: Every painting of him and every painting, every you know,

1422
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: and his WWE fans are like so intense, Oh my god,

1423
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: do you go to those matches?

1424
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 4: I've never seen I have seen him wrestle once, but yeah,

1425
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 4: when I went, I didn't know anything about wrestling.

1426
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, this is dangerous, this is scary,

1427
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 3: but it's awesome. I love it.

1428
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: Like do you ever get afraid for his safety? End?

1429
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 3: No, because he stopped.

1430
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 4: But when he did a backflip right when he was

1431
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 4: forty nine, because he wanted to do one more and

1432
01:08:58,400 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 4: like gotten rid for the road.

1433
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 3: But everything.

1434
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 4: I tell him the reason that WGA went on strike

1435
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 4: is because of him using up my insurance because all

1436
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 4: those injuries.

1437
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 2: God, what is your dream project? What is the project

1438
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 2: you are dying to execute and get off the ground.

1439
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 4: I be honest, anything with Regina King, And because I

1440
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 4: know nothing about her and I just see all that

1441
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 4: and I don't want too m K.

1442
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 3: She's not nice because I've met too many people and

1443
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: just let me have my dream that Regina King is

1444
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 3: my best friend in my head.

1445
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she's nice.

1446
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 3: Okay, have you met her? No, never met her, never

1447
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 3: worked with her?

1448
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,520
Speaker 1: Wait? You work out here in Hollywood?

1449
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean she's she didn't do TV until recently.

1450
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 3: And no, that's the thing. Here's the thing.

1451
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 4: Also, I don't work in Hollywood because of the changes

1452
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 4: in the industry. I work in Toronto, and I work

1453
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 4: in New York. I was a New York last show

1454
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 4: for six months. So it's like I'm barely here.

1455
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: Okay. Is is Hollywood just a concept now? Because even

1456
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: for me, like all my friends are going to Atlanta

1457
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: or Tomronto or Vancouver or yes, is anything just straight

1458
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: up shot and produced out here?

1459
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 3: Very few things?

1460
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 4: And I mean you have to have a high, high

1461
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 4: level of stardom to get it done out here. But no,

1462
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 4: most of my friends and even like the Scrubs reboot,

1463
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 4: they're all up in Vancouver.

1464
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: It's an are you a part of it?

1465
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 3: No? I like my marriage, I don't want to go back.

1466
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: Congratulations for choosing yourself over.

1467
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 4: And I realized that the last time I went away

1468
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 4: and we have to be away from each other for

1469
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 4: four months, it's not fun. People like you get to

1470
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 4: travel for work and no, we work day to night

1471
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 4: and just go home. Like I remember going to New York.

1472
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna call I mean, I'm gonna see

1473
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 4: all these things. I didn't see anything.

1474
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been on sets where, especially with comedy shows,

1475
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 2: where literally don't get yes yes time to yourself.

1476
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize like how hard it is like

1477
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: to be funny in the in the face of pressure.

1478
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 4: And Yeah, and it's also every show you go into

1479
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 4: there's a big managerial aspect to it. That some people

1480
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 4: are funny and come up with great stories, but they

1481
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 4: don't know how to manage your room, so they realize

1482
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 4: they don't like any jokes at four am in the

1483
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 4: morning and I'm like, dude, I'm over fifty now I can't.

1484
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 3: When I was on Scrubs, I was like, sure, Bill Lawrence,

1485
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 3: I'll pull another all nighter.

1486
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1487
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Okay, so I want what show

1488
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: I visited? I went to Two and a Half Men

1489
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: once right, and.

1490
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,560
Speaker 1: Was chuck there. I think all I know is that

1491
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: whenever they took a break, like someone didn't like a line,

1492
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: and the directors like, hut, cut cut and it take

1493
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: five whatever, and they took five. And the way that

1494
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: those writers formed a magic circle, they all knew what

1495
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: order they had to be in. It's like, I don't

1496
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't like the da da da, not only the

1497
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: da da d D. So what do you got for me? No?

1498
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: What do you got from me? What do you got

1499
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: from me?

1500
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 3: What?

1501
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: And it felt like a creative version of Russian roulette. Ooh.

1502
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,480
Speaker 4: And here's the thing you don't see is that sometimes

1503
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 4: we have already worked on that line in the room.

1504
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 4: And sometimes I've worked with some talented people, but there's

1505
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 4: some people won't say anything in the room. Then you're

1506
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 4: gonna get on set where the stars are it's like

1507
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 4: they kill it. Yeah, and then everybody from the network

1508
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 4: is looking and I'm like.

1509
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 3: I pitched that last week in the room, you know.

1510
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: So it's just like then you get up to the

1511
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 3: room and someone's fighting because it's like it's a lot,

1512
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 3: Like you say, it's a lot.

1513
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 1: Does your dream project have a title to it like.

1514
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 3: The you know what?

1515
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 4: Actually, my dream project would be about a fifty year

1516
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 4: old woman trying to get back in the workplace, figuring

1517
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 4: out what she really likes to do. And I started

1518
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 4: writing it just because I know a lot of women

1519
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 4: now who are their forties and fifties, and we all

1520
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 4: took that this is what our parents wanted us to do.

1521
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 4: I did it very well, but realized what the hell

1522
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 4: do I like to do? But also having to deal

1523
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 4: with I just had the realization that I could have

1524
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 4: given birth to Megan the Stallion without being a teenage mom.

1525
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 4: And that's always the level I see if I'm old,

1526
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 4: Like if I was a teenage mom, maybe I'm still

1527
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 4: She's top of.

1528
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 3: The charts, and I could be your mother without being a.

1529
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: Teenage could be Wow, whoa It hit me.

1530
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 3: Oh, and so now when I talk to younger people,

1531
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 3: I'm always thinking that I know you didn't just tell

1532
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 3: me what time I could go home. I could be

1533
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 3: your mom, you know, but that's the industry.

1534
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: That's gonna sit with me all day to day. Like

1535
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: I could be Megan the Stallion's dad and not have

1536
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: been that hit me hard. That's the quest left show,

1537
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. We'll see you later. Okay, I mean

1538
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: to ask you the same question three different ways. Okay,

1539
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 1: you were in Capa. What year tenth No, middle of eleventh,

1540
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: let's go before tenth grade? What was sixteen year old

1541
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: Angela Nissile's version of what success was? What five things

1542
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,560
Speaker 1: would have been? Like I made it?

1543
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 3: Oh god, this is I.

1544
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 4: Mean, it's embarrassing. But a boyfriend who is eventually going

1545
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 4: to ask me to marry him. Okay, some place to

1546
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 4: work with a cubicle where I can maybe have off days.

1547
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 3: I needed to go to the hospital or like go to.

1548
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: I remember thinking you didn't want a better place to die?

1549
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 4: Thinking, how do you, as an adult like ask your

1550
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 4: Boston that you need a day off?

1551
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 3: And do you? God? What else?

1552
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 4: Oh god, it's so a nice back then, at least

1553
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 4: a nice car only had to be a Benz or something,

1554
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 4: not like a Bentley.

1555
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,879
Speaker 3: Like now I was like a benz An apartment downtown

1556
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 3: in the nice section of Philadelphia where the cobblestones are.

1557
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:02,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I tell you, I gotta tell you something.

1558
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: I hate Michael Bivens for this.

1559
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: When they shot the Motown Philly video and you know

1560
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 2: the cobblestone place on like second, you know, the Wow

1561
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: Wow is on like second in South Street. So Michael

1562
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: Bivins purchased one of those houses there, and man, Me

1563
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: and Rieke were like, Yo, that's what's up. Like I

1564
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 2: go by that place now, It's like, Yo, how did

1565
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 2: I think success was living? I almost purchased. Matter of fact,

1566
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 2: before I purchased what do I call it? The sixth

1567
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 2: cens Housey.

1568
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,959
Speaker 3: I didn't know you purchased that. That's hilarious.

1569
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: Oh when I tell you what I have to do

1570
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: to hang on to that house because it's now like

1571
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: literally four lawyers are trying to like, I'm the last

1572
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 2: black owner, wow that entire neighborhood. I lived on the

1573
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 2: block that was formerly the six cents block, and they've

1574
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: since then, four people have taken it in regental like

1575
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 2: there's no abandon houses and I'm the last person hanging

1576
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 2: on to that place. And they're trying every way to

1577
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 2: get me out of there. But before I brought that house,

1578
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 2: there was like a spot. I swear to god, maybe

1579
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 2: it's like nine hundred square feet, but I thought, man,

1580
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: I'm living off South Street, Like I can go right

1581
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 2: to the diner, take a joint of the diner, go

1582
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:18,759
Speaker 2: to a rich movie theater.

1583
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: Like if I thought that was living.

1584
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 3: Right, we didn't. People didn't realize your whole world was

1585
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 3: your city, the pre internet, you know, and that's all

1586
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 3: we knew. And those were the best houses we saw.

1587
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, oh god, exactly, Wait, you didn't name

1588
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: your last one?

1589
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what would be the last one?

1590
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: Boyfriend? You wanted a better place to die that gave

1591
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: you time off to go to the hospital.

1592
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 3: You wanted a Ben's animal sanctuary.

1593
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 4: I always wanted, always would bring home the animals drops Parkway.

1594
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: What is your greatest extravagance?

1595
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 3: Wow?

1596
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: Or actually your first big check? What did you get?

1597
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is so you remember when Nike

1598
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 4: had this thing online where you could uh design.

1599
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: Your own doings, design your own doings?

1600
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 3: You were just that was my first check. I was like, yeah,

1601
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 3: I'd be sitting like with my feet on.

1602
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: Behind everybody like, where'd you get them from? One on one?

1603
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: You know?

1604
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 3: That was what I did? Oh my god.

1605
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: When we got our checks, I purchased yeah, eight, that's

1606
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 1: I didn't let my dad know one. He didn't know

1607
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: we had a record deal. I told you. Dad didn't

1608
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: know about till the second alb until do you Want

1609
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: More came out? He didn't know about. Like I hit

1610
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: it perfectly.

1611
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 2: My cousins gave me away because you know we're in

1612
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 2: the inquiry, you know whatever. But I purchased seven pairs

1613
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 2: of Pumas.

1614
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: Yo. When you get you remember.

1615
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 2: When new shoes like that feeling I'm having new shoes

1616
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: Like I lived in a might get one pair of

1617
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 2: shoe a year. For school, you get play shoes and

1618
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,799
Speaker 2: then your school shoes. But there's nothing like a fresh

1619
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: pair of sneakers. So the first thing I did was

1620
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 2: got seven pairs and you couldn't tell me nothing. But

1621
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: then one day my dad was like, then you have

1622
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: red Puma's on the other day and I was like, yeah,

1623
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 2: I brought two pairs and I had to hide like

1624
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 2: I think I hit him in some girl's crib, Like

1625
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 2: that's yeah, but having having wait.

1626
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 4: What's so funny is when you say that, people think

1627
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 4: you came up so easy. When you say your dad,

1628
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 4: this is the biggest memory I have of your dad,

1629
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 4: me calling your house, him saying he's practicing Click.

1630
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: Yes, my dad was. He was Jill Jackson in West Philadelphia.

1631
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 3: So I was like, damn, I don't have a dad,

1632
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 3: but I'm glad I don't have that one. He just

1633
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 3: up on a friend. He didn't know what I needed.

1634
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 1: The rules were.

1635
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: I better be in this house before the Opra theme

1636
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 2: comes on, like you know, like the Fresh Prince of

1637
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: Belly thing when Carlton here is you started dancing. That

1638
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 2: song is so nightmares to me. That part of my

1639
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 2: therapy of getting over that, Like you don't know what yeah,

1640
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: I mean you you know where we went to school,

1641
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: and you know how long it takes to get to

1642
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 2: Market Street and the distractions you're in enough gallery or whatever,

1643
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 2: and then you gotta get to West Philly and then

1644
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 2: take another bust like I have an hour to get

1645
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 2: home before like the happiest song in the world is

1646
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 2: also just do not let that theme come on and

1647
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 2: your ass is not in this house no more.

1648
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: Soul trained for three weeks, like literally and I got

1649
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: soul trained punishments even like yeah, sorry.

1650
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 3: No, I'm cracking because that's a mirror that I know.

1651
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 2: So that's I was like, whoa, all right, So the

1652
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 2: first half hour of your day when you wake up,

1653
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 2: what do you do?

1654
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 3: My animals? My dog?

1655
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: How many animals do you?

1656
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 3: I only have a dog and a cat. But my

1657
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 3: dog looks at me like we going out yet? And

1658
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 3: so I'm like, that's why.

1659
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 1: So they wake you up?

1660
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he wants to. Of course, he wants to

1661
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 4: go outside. Animals love outside, I mean, but he just

1662
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 4: gives me that look. And I'm glad I never had kids,

1663
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 4: because if a human.

1664
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: Ever looked at me the way he looks at me,

1665
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: like what kind of dog is?

1666
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 3: He's a big lab mutt mix. But he's like, oh,

1667
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 3: you still love me, You're gonna take me outside.

1668
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't jump in the bed, No, it's just like

1669
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: the sad look.

1670
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 3: But then once we get out there, pip, so that

1671
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 3: also good. That's also good for me. It gets me

1672
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 3: out of the house first to talk to my old friends.

1673
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm in a new relationship with a It comes with

1674
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: a dog.

1675
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that they wake you up when they're hungry,

1676
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: so usually and motherfucker will sit anywhere like on your neck,

1677
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 2: on your face, which basically tells me like you little

1678
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 2: late with the see with.

1679
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 3: You can also train them out of that.

1680
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 4: Because my dog, whenever he comes up to me, and

1681
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 4: I know he's already had everything he needs, I just go.

1682
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 4: So he thinks that him coming up to me makes

1683
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 4: me fall asleep at a certain time.

1684
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: Of the day. And he respects us.

1685
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 3: He's just like I turned mom off when you do

1686
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 3: it enough. It's repetition.

1687
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: How old is this dog?

1688
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 3: This dog's five?

1689
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, mine's it's hiawa, but it's fifteen. Oh yeah, yeah,

1690
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: the whole old dog trick thing, doesn't you know? Do

1691
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 2: you believe in past lives?

1692
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 4: That question worries me because I don't want to be reincarnated,

1693
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 4: so I kind of do, but I'm scared because then

1694
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 4: that means I gotta come back here again.

1695
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to. This is how life can be

1696
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 3: a lot.

1697
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: Man not to self removed. But have you ever seen soul?

1698
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 4: No?

1699
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 3: I not, actually never saw them move.

1700
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so I their their version. I highly recommend, first

1701
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 2: of all, every Pixar film. It's really for adults.

1702
01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: It's not for kids.

1703
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 2: I believe that there and that's why I got involved

1704
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 2: with it. Then that was the seventh draft, Like the

1705
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 2: first draft.

1706
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: Literally, I was like, yo, you guys are going to

1707
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 1: release this version because it was so mind blowing, how

1708
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: brazen they were about metaphysics, reincarnation, all these things. And

1709
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, oh, man, like, I gotta

1710
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: think about this movie because I know many a right

1711
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: wing pund and be like, yo, liberal Hollywood's trying to

1712
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: get our kids off of God and into But I

1713
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: know that that version of the film, that's what I

1714
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 1: believe that the Cycle Life is.

1715
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna watch it.

1716
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: It's a must watch, all right. Can you tell me

1717
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 2: what is your most overused emoji?

1718
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 3: According to my niece, it's the laughing while.

1719
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 1: Crying sideways or straight.

1720
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 3: See. I always feel like the sideways is trying too hard,

1721
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 3: like I'm better than the other people. I don't know

1722
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 3: to use that it means the same thing. Why can't

1723
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 3: you just use that one?

1724
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: But five of those laughing sideway also, that's sort of like,

1725
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 2: all right, I laughed at your joke and now I'll.

1726
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: Leave me alone. Yeah, a scene five of those are

1727
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 1: Do you have your phone on you?

1728
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 3: Oh it's out there?

1729
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: Someone grab No no, no, no no.

1730
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 2: This is hilarious only because, uh, someone taught me this

1731
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 2: thing where.

1732
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 3: You you can just wear the whole bag.

1733
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: So someone taught me this thing that whatever your most

1734
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: used emojis are, that represents where you are in life.

1735
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 3: But I started a new thing. So if you're gonna

1736
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 3: look at my most used emojis, it's gonna be really weird.

1737
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: Because you had a unique response to somebody.

1738
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 4: Because I tell everyone that there's certain emojis that don't

1739
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 4: get enough love, and.

1740
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 2: You started using Yes, all right, I did feel bad

1741
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: for Okay, so when they did the update with nine

1742
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 2: new emojis, right, so they updated and added nine new emojis,

1743
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 2: and one of them seemed really boring. I felt bad

1744
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 2: for that one, so I started. I did it as

1745
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 2: a joke, but now I'm using it out of pity.

1746
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 2: Are we the same person you said that before?

1747
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 4: I'm cracking up because I'm like, if you literally see

1748
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 4: my emojis, you'll be like, ange, what are these?

1749
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: Okay? So, so does the pretzel mean that you missed Philadelphia? Wait?

1750
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: I've never seen a person use the pretzel emoji. Yeah,

1751
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: it's literally all right, So this is me analyzing you

1752
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 2: based on.

1753
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: Your rose so everyone knows that the left side is

1754
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: the one that you used the most. All right? Is

1755
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: this like the punch in the face one like that?

1756
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: I it's wait, I just knew that one.

1757
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 4: That's the last newsed. That was just to send my

1758
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 4: cousin something because we go. Is that like a U

1759
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 4: or I don't even know what that one. I just

1760
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 4: feel like it's confusion or all right?

1761
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: So the heart one is good, the sad one, the

1762
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: shrug all right, shrug one we always use. All right,

1763
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: you're wearing purple? Oh mine is blue? What is all right?

1764
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 1: So the chicken inside the egg those recently, that's right,

1765
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: we did have eastern what's the pretzel represent That was.

1766
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 4: Just me sending because we know when you have a

1767
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 4: t when you live across the country from people you love,

1768
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 4: you run out of things to talk about. So with

1769
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 4: my cousin, now I just we send emojis back and

1770
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 4: forth that mean nothing and just the bestel Yeah, like.

1771
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 3: I canna let you see you know what.

1772
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: I absolutely believe you when you use it, just non

1773
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 2: sequitor like random ship.

1774
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, use the cats. No one uses the

1775
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: cat emojis.

1776
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 3: Like the cat faces they doing my sewing forums?

1777
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 1: How many? How many? This is hready my favorite of

1778
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: this series. How many friends do you.

1779
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 3: Have on my sewing for him?

1780
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, how many?

1781
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 3: Take?

1782
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: What are you sewing? You mean knitting?

1783
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 3: Well, Crouch, I've really tried. I realized for real, like

1784
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 3: during the pandemic, is like, I don't have no hobbies.

1785
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: So I started to Yeah, what have you learned?

1786
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 3: I learned that I should not try to redom on

1787
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 3: the floor by myself.

1788
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: Okay, No.

1789
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 4: YouTube makes everything look so easy, and I am very frugal.

1790
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 4: I'm so I'm like peeling stick.

1791
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: Oh god, all right, what have you succeeded in as

1792
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: far as YouTube tutorial?

1793
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 3: You know, just sanding down and finishing furniture with a

1794
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 3: nice difference. I love thrift stores and if there's a

1795
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 3: chair for five dollars, I'm gonna make it work with

1796
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 3: a sounder.

1797
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: I am addicted to there.

1798
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 2: There's a YouTube show in which they'll take old furniture

1799
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: and make it into new furniture and kind of makes

1800
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: me think I can do that. But then I realized

1801
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 2: I'm quest love and that's not a good idea. So

1802
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 2: I don't do that, but someone recently, like this morning,

1803
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 2: I saw someone take a treasure chest and they turned

1804
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 2: in like too elegant green, like it almost looked like

1805
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 2: a Louis Louis Vauton test.

1806
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: And so that's what you do.

1807
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:21,919
Speaker 3: That's what I want to do when I retire.

1808
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 4: Like that's oh man, just I swear to god, I

1809
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 4: could be Laura Ingles. I just I mean, minus a

1810
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 4: few things.

1811
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 1: But wait, someone just posted on Instagram where if you

1812
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 1: remember who's Laura Ingles's arch nemesis on the show, Oh

1813
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 1: my god, I do not the blonde girl that we

1814
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: all have Nelly. Wait, how do you know?

1815
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 5: Wait?

1816
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: How old are you? Okay, so your grandma will watch?

1817
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 2: Okay, it's an episode where Nelly was faking an injury

1818
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: so that she didn't have to go to school, and

1819
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 2: you know everyone's going to school, and she was making

1820
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 2: Lara do her work for her, like do these hard chores,

1821
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 2: carry bucket up of water and all.

1822
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: These things, do her homework for whatever.

1823
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 2: And one day Laura had left like some sort of

1824
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 2: item in the house and she like, remember, I gotta

1825
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: go back and go get it. And right as she

1826
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 2: was walking to the house. She caught like Nelly like celebrating,

1827
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 2: like literally like.

1828
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 3: Like she's in the.

1829
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: Crib, like oh, like all that stuff.

1830
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 2: And Laura got so incensed right that she knocked on

1831
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 2: the door and she, like Nellie got back into the

1832
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 2: wheelchair like oh yes, And Laura came in. She's like, oh,

1833
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 2: you know, just I forgot to take you on your

1834
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 2: morning walk. And she walked up this big hill and

1835
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 2: then she just tossed her.

1836
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 3: Over a damn that's not where I was expected as started.

1837
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 2: She tossed her over a mountain and whatever, like and

1838
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 2: the mom's watching the mom who's equally is evil.

1839
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry this became like two old people talk

1840
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: about I know.

1841
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 3: After the young person in the corner was like, my

1842
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 3: grandmom like that show.

1843
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: Uh do you make up your bed every morning?

1844
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 3: Yes?

1845
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 4: I do, because the dog does jump in and I

1846
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 4: want him to jump on the top, not on my sheets.

1847
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 4: Other than that, I never made it before the dog.

1848
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: All right, what is your motto? What is your life motto?

1849
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 4: Who?

1850
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 3: God? It's funny because I had literally just written this

1851
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 3: down because I decided I needed a life motto, and

1852
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 3: now I can't remember. I swear to God my notes.

1853
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 1: He was like, I need inspiration, something to.

1854
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 3: I just thought, I will crack up if this is

1855
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 3: at the top of my and watch it be something stupid.

1856
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 1: Note to self, get yourself a life motto.

1857
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 3: No, I'm laughing because this is let's see, No, that

1858
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,879
Speaker 3: ain't God. If I had a life mottol it would.

1859
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 1: Be find a life model that and honestly.

1860
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,560
Speaker 3: Be kind, be kind, be kind, be kinder than you

1861
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,799
Speaker 3: think you need to be. Don't take anything personal.

1862
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 1: That's what if you don't authentically feel like being kind.

1863
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 4: You know what I've learned that most well, I mean,

1864
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 4: I mean if someone's punching you in the face. But yeah,

1865
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 4: I mean just from going through taking care of my

1866
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 4: mom and her death and just a bunch of other things, divorced,

1867
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 4: and you just never know what that person walking down

1868
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 4: the street is going through. And some of the people

1869
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 4: I remember most of my life are people who just

1870
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 4: stopped to give me a smile, or like I could

1871
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 4: name that teacher right away who bucked me up, but

1872
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 4: can't name under the other ones. So it's like, I

1873
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 4: just want to be that person that might say, someone

1874
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 4: from jumping off a bridge.

1875
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I totally understand that. What is the best gift

1876
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 1: that you've ever given?

1877
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 3: The best gift, I would say, taken my taken one

1878
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 3: day to give mind this is hilarious. I would say,

1879
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 3: taking my niece to go to the slime Museum in

1880
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 3: New York, taking a day off from work when I

1881
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 3: was working on that show, and we went to someplace

1882
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 3: called the Slime Museum. And it is the most bootleg

1883
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 3: you can tell.

1884
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 4: Somebody just rented the bottom of this and threw a

1885
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 4: bunch of slime and a bunch of unhappy workers.

1886
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,759
Speaker 1: Like, wait, what is the slime museum?

1887
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 3: That's what they call it.

1888
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 4: It seems like someone just rented a place they knew

1889
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 4: that kids loved slime. And I mean there was a

1890
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 4: it was like getting into a club, you know. But

1891
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 4: I bought VIP tickets for her, so we went past

1892
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 4: the club. She felt so she got to make her

1893
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 4: own slime and I got.

1894
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: She enjoyed it. THO, yes, yes, it meant the world too.

1895
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 1: Who is the funniest person that you know?

1896
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 3: Oh god, that I personally know.

1897
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 4: Now, See this is weird because it would be like

1898
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 4: a tie between Dave Chappelle and a dude who talks

1899
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 4: to himself on the corner at CRENSHAWL.

1900
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,640
Speaker 1: And Oh, I thought you meant the Gus Christ guy.

1901
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 4: But there's just so many people who that's so funny.

1902
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 4: That's the person I sent the pretzel to. But there's

1903
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 4: just so many people I find that are funny. They

1904
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 4: just don't know how to hone it or make it

1905
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 4: specific enough. They're just funny, funny, funny, funny.

1906
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not anywhere near like that level of screenwriting whatever,

1907
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 2: but I am a person that will take notes if

1908
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 2: someone tells a funny story, are you the person to whom?

1909
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 2: Like if you're in a group and someone tells the

1910
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 2: story of like, oh, man, the time that I went

1911
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 2: skiing and I caught my husband no.

1912
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: No, no no, and you're like I'll be right back,

1913
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: and you're like, so all your notes are Yes, you

1914
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 1: still people's lives.

1915
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 4: That's but that's but it's also I want to punch

1916
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 4: up people's lives because there's stories you can tell.

1917
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 3: Like my husband will tell a story and I'm like,

1918
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 3: rap it up.

1919
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 4: It could be so much better if you come up

1920
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 4: with the setup, get people emotionally involved, joke not you don't.

1921
01:32:57,960 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 3: He's like but I need to tell the whole truth.

1922
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 3: The truth's boring.

1923
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 1: You said this, and I god, oh man, all right.

1924
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 1: So the person I'm seeing now we had our first

1925
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: heart to heart story and she sat down sos, Honey,

1926
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 1: I want to tell you something you know, And I

1927
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 1: knew it was serious when the compliments came first.

1928
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 2: The last time this happened to me was Obama, where

1929
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 2: literally the compliment came first, and then I was like,

1930
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 2: all right, what did I do? And literally she's like,

1931
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 2: you got to figure out a way. Like I'm surprised

1932
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 2: you work at a comedy show and you don't know

1933
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:41,600
Speaker 2: the art of.

1934
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you don't even write comedy, so like

1935
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 1: what the hell? Like you criticize me for? But I

1936
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: realized at this very moment, like, wow, man, I could

1937
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 1: have used Angeline Life to teach me how.

1938
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 3: To My husband would be like, no, you don't. He

1939
01:33:59,000 --> 01:33:59,719
Speaker 3: gets so mad.

1940
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 1: All right. My final question to you, yes, sir, what

1941
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 1: is the hardest part of your job that no one

1942
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: gets to see or experience that it is?

1943
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 4: Everyone thinks that it's a bunch of people throwing around

1944
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 4: funny jokes, because again, they didn't show that part on

1945
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 4: thirty rock because truth is boring. It is a bunch

1946
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 4: of no's, and we can't say that. And you've offended someone,

1947
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,879
Speaker 4: You're gonna offend this sponsor go back in. Someone's offended.

1948
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 4: One of the actors are offended because it reminds them

1949
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 4: of their ex boyfriend, and just the number of people

1950
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 4: that whole list you see at the end of the show.

1951
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 4: We have to accommodate what everyone will and won't do,

1952
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 4: you know.

1953
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 1: So we'll even come up with that edging expectations.

1954
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 3: No, we don't have the set design for that. So

1955
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 3: it's a lot of just or we don't have enough days.

1956
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 3: It's a lot of just sitting there like everything we

1957
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,560
Speaker 3: built just burnt to the ground and we have to

1958
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 3: shoot tomorrow.

1959
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 1: You know. It's a lot of So is there an

1960
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: actual scientific formula to a joke?

1961
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 2: Like Chappelle did a thing where he's like, the joke

1962
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 2: starts with the punchline. He has a whole bunch of

1963
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 2: punchs and this is real. He has a whole a

1964
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 2: jar or whatever with punchlines written, and it's his job

1965
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 2: to figure out what the setup is that will make

1966
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 2: that punchline funnier.

1967
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 4: See, I think for him that's true because he's always

1968
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:19,600
Speaker 4: Dave Chappelle and so that's where he thinks of a

1969
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 4: place of jokes. But with characters, it's like, I need

1970
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 4: to think what this character really do, and so I

1971
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:27,640
Speaker 4: need to think like five different.

1972
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 3: People, you know. So it's keeping it so people people

1973
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 3: online love to say, you.

1974
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 4: Know, that's not what that character would really do and

1975
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Speaker 4: did they have any black writers in the room, you know,

1976
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Speaker 4: or something like that. So it's making sure that you

1977
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 4: keep all these voices in your head consistent and going

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Speaker 4: with what the audience will recognize from them, even if

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Speaker 4: the joke is easier that you want to go for.

1980
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I grew up around a bunch of old people,

1981
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,600
Speaker 2: so I'm still using like I'm a jazz person, so

1982
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 2: I still call people cats and men that's hip or

1983
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 2: you know, that's killing dog or whatever, but that's not

1984
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 2: the language of Now. I'll give Spike Lee a legendary past,

1985
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 2: but like we're kind of past the the hip hop

1986
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 2: jargon of the truth or yes, you know whatever. But

1987
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 2: in Spike's world, okay, it's through his lens. But do

1988
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 2: you find pressure, Like how often are you on Urban Dictionary?

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing, though, one, there's always going to be

1990
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Speaker 4: a younger person in the room to correct you, but

1991
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 4: also spending time with the young people in my family,

1992
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 4: Like my niece just lectured me about saying the word

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Speaker 4: dope and don't say skibbity anymore.

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Speaker 3: That's totally yeah. But then it's funny because most of

1995
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 3: the words that they use are our words. She was like, yeah,

1996
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 3: you don't know what clock means? Yes, I do.

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Speaker 1: They're bringing that back, okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So talking to her.

1999
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 4: She just at that age where she just puts the

2000
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 4: FaceTime down forgets that I'm even there. He doesn't go

2001
01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 4: about her day, but then she'll chime in when she

2002
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 4: remember there.

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Speaker 2: So you literally like do time with younger people, just

2004
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:04,560
Speaker 2: didn't see what their language is.

2005
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, ah, man, I want.

2006
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Speaker 3: To be that person, the one that's just like, see, I'm.

2007
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 2: That way with music and it. One time it bit

2008
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 2: me in the ass. I did one bar mitzvah one

2009
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 2: you're already laughing at the points line. I didn't even

2010
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 2: get to it. No, someone hired me for a bar

2011
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,640
Speaker 2: mitzvah and I made the mistake. Because I work at

2012
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 2: thirty Rock. There's a whole bunch of interns so I

2013
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:31,680
Speaker 2: was like, oh, easy, hey, what was you listening at

2014
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 2: when you was like, you know, because they're already nineteen

2015
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, whatever, Yo, what was you listening at?

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Speaker 1: Fifteen?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

2018
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: I was listening to d D Da Da Da Da Da.

2019
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: So I had this list already, you know, Taylor Swift

2020
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 1: thirty seconds to Mars Jonas Brothers.

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Speaker 2: I had the zone and I arrived to the spot

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01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:53,560
Speaker 2: and it's a black bar mitzvah, and the look a

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01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 2: tear I had when I walked in and it was

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Speaker 2: like hood like right, And I was like wait, I said,

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Speaker 2: apartments for right, and she's said, oh wait, you didn't

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Speaker 2: know that my husband played.

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Speaker 1: For the Denver Nuggets. I'm dead And I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. And his side of the family was there.

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Speaker 1: And that's the only time where I stalled, like I

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01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 1: needed an extra hour just to find internet and download

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Speaker 1: clean versions of hip hop stuff that I didn't have

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Speaker 1: was live. Well it was.

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Speaker 2: But when you're that person, yes, yes, then you know

2034
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 2: I'm on wrap caviar looking up like what are the

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01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 2: kids listening to?

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Speaker 3: Wait?

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Speaker 4: You just reminded me of a story because whenever people

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01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,600
Speaker 4: ask me about like groups and stuff. The roots is

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01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 4: the first one that comes to my head, and I

2040
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 4: remember saying this recently and they were like, no, someone neurrant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even I would take myself out of that, all right.

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Speaker 1: My final question is how cathartic and healing was it

2043
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: to I know where the concept came from, but when

2044
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 1: did you start it and why was it necessary for

2045
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 1: you to write this book.

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Speaker 4: I'll say I've heard authors say that writing you know

2047
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 4: about the hardest times of their life is cathartic and healing,

2048
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 4: and I'm like, what the fuck drugs.

2049
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 3: Are you on? Because for me it was no. It

2050
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 3: was crying and then like trying to make sure I

2051
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 3: look like my husband. We were newly married. He's like,

2052
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 3: what is this. I'm like, I'm a writer, but it

2053
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 3: was just no.

2054
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Speaker 4: It was really hard because looking back at fifteen years,

2055
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 4: I'm also closer to my mother's age when she passed,

2056
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 4: and I see things why she did a lot of

2057
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 4: the things, and not having her to ask questions of

2058
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. But then once I got to

2059
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 4: the jokes, I was like, all right, who I like

2060
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:53,440
Speaker 4: this part, but yeah, the story, the actual story.

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01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:55,679
Speaker 3: Oh god, I was like, not for this amount of money,

2062
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 3: if I were do this again, someone punched me in

2063
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 3: a face. Don't nobody read no more?

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01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 1: Like, yes they do.

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01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 3: Wait, this is like every time I talk to some Okay,

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01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 3: if they read, why they got to tell you. I

2067
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:09,839
Speaker 3: don't usually read, but I'll pick up your book.

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01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,600
Speaker 1: Even I've heard that a few times. I've heard that

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01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 1: a lot of times.

2070
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, apparently, I mean, I thought it was coming back.

2071
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 3: And I've never stopped reading.

2072
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 4: But there's just you asked some get on a dating

2073
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 4: app and ask him, man, how the last time he

2074
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 4: read a book.

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01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:25,640
Speaker 3: It's the most sad thing.

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01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 1: I Well, see, I thought everyone during the pandemic matters.

2077
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 1: I've read more books post pandemic, Like I felt bad

2078
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: that as an author, as a person that has New

2079
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 1: York Times bestsellers. Maybe I was on one two books

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Speaker 1: a year.

2081
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 2: Now I'll be done a book in like five weeks,

2082
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 2: and if I really love it, I might get done

2083
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 2: through it.

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01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Like I've read more books in my life in the

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01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: last like five six years. Ange, I thank you so

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01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:55,959
Speaker 1: much for this conversation.

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Speaker 3: Oh this was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I enjoyed its great Angela Thistle on the

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