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Speaker 1: This is the Action Network podcast Better than Most, Better

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Speaker 1: than Most, Better than Most.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in to the Action Network podcast. Great to be

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Speaker 2: talking to you the week of the US Open.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the US Open.

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Speaker 2: Heading to the Country Club in Brookline, Massachusetts, first time

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Speaker 2: the country club is hosting the US Open since.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty eight. Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Brendan Glasheen your host today, joined by two of the

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Speaker 2: very best that follow the PGA, that follow golf from

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Speaker 2: a betting perspective. They are both co hosts of the

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Speaker 2: Better Golf podcast. Spencer Agyar He's at Teoff Sports on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Nick Brettwish Sticks Picks joining us as well. This same

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Speaker 2: duo was with us for the Masters and they were fan.

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Speaker 2: You can catch Spencer and Nick on our Links.

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Speaker 3: And Locks podcast from the Action Network.

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Speaker 2: So good to have both of you. Just want to

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Speaker 2: start with some general thoughts and Spencer will go to

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Speaker 2: you first. When you're looking to target a golfer an

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Speaker 2: outright winner, top forty, top twenty, what are some factors

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Speaker 2: for you when you look at the course.

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Speaker 1: Weather looks like it's going to check out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, might be some inclement weather on Friday in Boston,

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Speaker 2: but for the most part, when you look at all factors,

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Speaker 2: what are some things here that jump out to you?

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Speaker 2: It also approach, you know, putting, how they do on

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Speaker 2: the greens, driving the ball.

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Speaker 3: What are some things that come to mind here as

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Speaker 3: you prep for the US Open.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's talk about the course a little bit.

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Speaker 4: It measures in at and sixty four yards part seventy

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Speaker 4: venue that falls somewhere between sadistic and overly complicated on

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Speaker 4: the scale. But the landscape of Brookline is masterfully pieced together,

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Speaker 4: accentuating the course features and molding it into one diabolical examination.

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Speaker 4: And there are seventy foot trees that steiny second shots

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Speaker 4: if you miss to the wrong angle. Strategically place bunkers

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Speaker 4: in thick, rough and sinister green complexes that not only

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Speaker 4: rank as some of the smallest you will see all year,

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Speaker 4: but also the trickiest for a few reasons. For starters,

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Speaker 4: the two tier layout can create nightmarish speed on your putts,

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Speaker 4: potentially causing balls to funnel off these false fronts that

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Speaker 4: slope from back to front. But even more importantly than that,

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Speaker 4: it will be an extension of the iron play, since

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Speaker 4: the green and regulation percentage will be significantly reduced. I

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Speaker 4: have always found it challenging to create a US Open

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Speaker 4: model that is vastly different from other users, since some

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Speaker 4: semblance of the same statistics always come into play. We

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Speaker 4: know that the players who ten hit the ball the longest,

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Speaker 4: in the straightest for the weeks are the ones that

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Speaker 4: are at a massive advantage. But it doesn't mean that

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Speaker 4: we still can't get unique in our approach. To talk

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Speaker 4: a little bit about the weather. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 4: a person that overly looks into weather stats. I think

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Speaker 4: that things can change very frequently. When you know, you

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Speaker 4: look one second, there's twenty five mile power wins, You

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Speaker 4: look the next day, and then all all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: like what was forecasted is no longer there. So I

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Speaker 4: like to just use my model, try to find an

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Speaker 4: advantage there, and you know, go about it in that fashion.

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Speaker 2: Nick, you get the sense getting set here for the

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Speaker 2: US Open again. We'll get to best bets here momentarily,

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Speaker 2: just want to set the stage here for how Nick

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Speaker 2: and Spencer go about handicapping and examining the landscape. It

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Speaker 2: has been a while since the country Club has hosted

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Speaker 2: like we talked about, but you get the sense placement

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Speaker 2: over power will be the focus here with this course

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Speaker 2: because his Spencer laid out if you miss, you might

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Speaker 2: miss badly and hit Tom Brady's old house when he

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Speaker 2: resided in New England. But short game, approach game, I

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Speaker 2: think those two factors might be tested to the max here.

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Speaker 1: Is that fair?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Certainly?

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Speaker 5: I think for me it's it's gonna be short game,

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Speaker 5: it's going to be ball striking, and certainly people that

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Speaker 5: are deadly accurate off the tee because we all know

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Speaker 5: how high the rough is going to be at the

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Speaker 5: US Open, in addition to the fescue that is shortly

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Speaker 2: There kind of dive in now to best bets, and

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Speaker 2: the great thing with Spencer and Nick here when they

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Speaker 2: come on and join us, it's not just you know,

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Speaker 2: list of outright winners. They've got some different ways to

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Speaker 2: go about the betting board, just to kind of lay

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Speaker 2: it out though. The favorites coming in Rory McElroy, who

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Speaker 2: the board, justin Thomas John Rahm, your common customers at

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Speaker 2: the top of the board for a big major in

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Speaker 2: the golf circuit. So let's start with some top forties.

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Speaker 2: Spencer will start with you. Who are some guys to

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So I like Aaron Wise's top forty at plus

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Speaker 4: the one hundred on DraftKings. He's minus one forty on FanDuel.

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Speaker 4: I didn't necessarily envision myself going into this weekend punching

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Speaker 4: a plus one hundred ticket on Wise to land inside

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Speaker 4: the top forty, but my model had about fifty points

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Speaker 4: of value on the wager at the price. From a

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Speaker 4: two year perspective, the long term total usually means more

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Speaker 4: to me since it allows the under the radar value

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Speaker 4: to be found when the current form isn't being overly

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Speaker 4: the product jumps even higher. On my model, we condensed

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Speaker 4: the data down to feature only the past twenty four rounds.

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Speaker 4: Wise ranks first in this entire field. When we combine

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Speaker 4: is starting to pop like we saw during portions of

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty one season, I grabbed Harold Varner to

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Speaker 4: the third top forty plus one fifteenth FanDuel minus won

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Speaker 4: thirty five DraftKings. Varner's lack of perceived win equity is

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Speaker 4: overly hurting him in most of these markets. And while

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Speaker 4: there are concerns because of the volatility and random implosions

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Speaker 4: that take place for him, the American places twenty first

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Speaker 4: we see him jump to an impressive thirteenth when running

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Speaker 4: And then I'm gonna let Nick talk about this a

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Speaker 4: But Brian Harmon top forty plus one sixty five fan duel,

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Speaker 4: Harmon has provided four top thirty eight finishes at the

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Speaker 4: of those showings were coming at venues that where a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick, taking a look at the better golf pod Twitter,

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Speaker 2: you you demonstrated an urgency to get in on harm

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well the price I actually moved so that plus

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Speaker 5: So I know that when Spencer and I usually do

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Speaker 5: So that's what you know. Following us on Twitter's some

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Speaker 5: with Brian Harmon by thirty points, he shot like a

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Speaker 5: probably one of my favorite plays if it was still

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Speaker 5: one hundred percent of number grab My model's got impressed

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Speaker 2: His last five appearances on the tour, you take out

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Speaker 2: the cut at Charles Schwab, he has finished top forty

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Speaker 2: has other top forty plays. But I'm sure that this

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Speaker 2: seems obvious, but this is important to highlight. Course history

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Speaker 2: course certainly important. But how much are you using recent

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I run my model through a two year standpoint,

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Speaker 4: so that's going to take twenty twenty one stats and

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Speaker 2: Nick, how about you in terms of recent form, because

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Speaker 2: that would definitely relate to your harm and like your

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Speaker 5: For the most part, for me, my model doesn't run

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Speaker 5: kind of weight mysel against Spencer's. I don't like to

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Speaker 5: Spencer is. But yeah, I'm more of a recent form

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Speaker 5: But for for me, I haven't seen that elite level

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Speaker 5: brooks Kepka in a long time. In the recent data

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Speaker 5: within one hundred and twenty days really doesn't support playing

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Speaker 5: him either, at especially at his shorter prices. But to me,

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Speaker 5: it's it's all about recent form.

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Speaker 2: Nick, give us some of your other top forty plays

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Speaker 2: for the US Open.

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Speaker 5: All right, my favorite one in It hurts my stomach

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Speaker 5: just to eat the juice on a top forty market.

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Speaker 5: But Daniel Berger top forty is minus one point fifteen

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Speaker 5: on FanDuel. I believe that price is still live there.

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Speaker 5: I believe andreings, but my model absolutely loves the course.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and that transitions well to Nick because Seawoo Kim,

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Speaker 5: fifty to one on Draftkingson. He is overall number thirteen

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Speaker 2: In terms of your other outright winners, you've got two

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Speaker 5: So outside of Rory, my model pretty much thinks all

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Speaker 2: Show, Spencer, why don't you, you know, kind of take

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Speaker 2: Excellent love it both co hosts from the Better Golf Podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can catch Spencer and Nick on our Links.

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Speaker 1: Jans anything else? You got to get off your chest

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Speaker 4: find on Twitter at TIOF Sports. You can locate the

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Speaker 4: two of us together at Better Golf Pod. And I

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Speaker 4: just really hope that everyone listening will tune into our show.

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Speaker 4: Nick and I always try to attack the board in

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Speaker 4: a unique and mathematical fashion, and I think it provides

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Speaker 4: an entertaining podcast where we try to help everyone get

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Speaker 4: more tickets to the window.

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Speaker 1: You got anything, Nick? Oh, thanks for having us in.

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Speaker 5: Good luck everybody, And one last pick I believe would

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Speaker 5: be Headeki Matsuyama forty to one on FanDuel. I think

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Speaker 5: he's ex at my actual pick to click this week,

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Speaker 5: and my winner if I had a one and done

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Speaker 5: pool is going to be Headeki Matsuyama as long as

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Speaker 5: he does not paint his three win again.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Excellent, Great work from both of you, guys, Spencer and

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Speaker 2: Nick helping us out here on the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: Podcast for other golf US.

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Speaker 2: Open Action Network content look forward to the Links and

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Speaker 2: Locks podcast from the Action Network for Spencer Agyar, Nick Brtwish,

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Speaker 2: Brendan las Sheen.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in.

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Speaker 2: Best of luck everybody, and enjoy the golf. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you again very soon.