1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff production of iHeart Radio, Hey brain Stuff, 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: Lauren folk Bomb here. The irresistible combination of a thick 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: hunk of battered cod resting atop amount of steaming hot chips, 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: known as French fries in America, is the quintessential British 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: comfort food. Whether eaten on a plastic lab tray in 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: front of the telly or picked from a paper cone 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: on the way home from the pub, a meal of 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: fish and chips is a serving of deep fried comfort 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: with a sprinkling of salt and vinegar. At the dish's 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: peak popularity. In the late nineteen twenties, there were thirty 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: five thousand fish and chip shops in the United Kingdom 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: that is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Today there's 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: still ten thousand, five hundred chippies in the UK, serving 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty million meals of fish and chips 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: every year, the equivalent of six servings of fish and 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: chips for every man, woman and child. The golden fried 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: combo is so deeply entrenched in British culture that it's 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: hard to imagine a time when there wasn't a fish 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: and chip shop in every neighborhood, but travel back a 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: mere two hundred years and you'd be hard pressed to 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: find fried fish or chipped potatoes anywhere in the British Isles. 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: The delicious duo came together in the mid nineteenth century, 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: thanks in large part to the culinary contributions of immigrants. 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: The practice of breading and frying fish is credited to 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: Jewish communities originally living in Spain and Portugal noticed Sphardic Jews. 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: The Jewish communities of the Iberian Peninsula thrived there since 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: the eighth century, much of it under Muslim rule. The 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: situation changed dramatically in the fifteenth century. The first the 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: Spanish Inquisition, outlawed Judaism, sending Spanish Jews fleeing to the 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: neighboring Portugal. Then, in nineteen forty six, the Portuguese King 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: Manuel the First married Isabella of Spain, who insisted on 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: the conversion or expulsion of Jews from Portugal to Some 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Jews chose to remain in Spain In Portugal, many of 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: them feigning conversion but continuing to practice in secret, but 35 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: others chose to flee to other parts of Europe where 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: they could live freely and Wherever the Sphardic Jews travel, 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: they brought their rich culinary traditions. The Jewish immigrants to 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: England took to selling fried fish in the streets from 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: trays hung from their necks by leather straps. As early 40 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: seventeen eighty one, a British cookbook author refers to the 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Jews way of preserving salmon and all sorts of fish, 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: and Thomas Jefferson, after a visit to England, wrote about 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: sampling fried fish in the Jewish fashion. Even today, some 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: hints of the Jewish origins of British fried fish remain. 45 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: The sign hanging above Buba's Fish and Ships outside of 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: London advertises varieties of fish in mazzomel, batter and grilled. 47 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: But it wasn't until the mid nineteenth century the Jewish 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: style fried fish fully made the cultural transfer from the 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: streets of East London to the broader British populace. And 50 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: for that, says historian panicoas Panayi, you can thank the railroad. 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: He said. The Internet is revolutionary, but the railway changes everything. 52 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: Now you can transport fresh fish from the sea to 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: anywhere in Great Britain within a few hours. That's when 54 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: fried fish really takes off. Meanwhile, nobody is entirely sure 55 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: how fried potatoes became a staple part of the European diet. 56 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: We do know that it took a really long time 57 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: for fried potatoes or potatoes of any kind to make 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: their way to England. The exotic tubers, first brought to 59 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Europe by explorers and conquerors coming back from South America 60 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: in the fifteen hundreds, were considered inedible for centuries. In Belgium, 61 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: the story is that fried potatoes also originated in Spain 62 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: in the sixteenth century and were brought north to a 63 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: region called These Spanish Netherlands, which is near modern day Belgium. 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: There in the seventeenth century, fishermen who struck out at 65 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: sea would carve potatoes into fish shapes and fry them 66 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: up for a stand in supper. Panaii is the author 67 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: of Fish and Chips, a history. During his research, he 68 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: wasn't able to pinpoint the precise arrival of fried potatoes 69 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: to England, but it was definitely much later than the 70 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: Belgian accounts. He believes that frying potatoes didn't really take 71 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: off in Great Britain until the eighteen sixties, which is 72 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: right around the time that we see the very first 73 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: fish and chip shops, so when exactly these two fried 74 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: friends get together. There are competing claims for being the 75 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: first British fish and chip shop. A Jewish immigrant named 76 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: Joseph Mallins is believed to have opened his chippy in 77 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: a London neighborhood in eighteen sixty after selling the classic 78 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: combo in the streets for years. And up north near Manchester, 79 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: the fish and chip stand owned by John Lees in 80 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: the town of Mossley was already doing brisk business by 81 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty three. Panayi says that by nineteen hundred fish 82 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: and chips were a staple food in the UK. Their 83 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: widespread appeal was about cost and convenience as much as flavor. 84 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: The advent of industrial scale troll fishing in the North 85 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: Sea meant inexpensive fresh fish could be sent by rail 86 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: to all corners of Great Britain to feed hungry factory 87 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: workers and their families. By nineteen ten, there were twenty 88 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: five thousand fish and chip shops in the UK, and 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: they even stayed open during World War One in an 90 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: effort to boost morale at home. Prime Minister David Lloyd 91 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: George made sure that fish and chips stayed off the rationalist. 92 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: The same practice was observed during World War Two, when 93 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: Winston Churchill famously referred to a hot meal of fish 94 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: and chips as the good companions. According to the National 95 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Federation of Fish Fryers, which is a real thing. British 96 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: soldiers storming Normandy beaches on D Day would identify each 97 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: other by yelling out fish and waiting for the response chips. 98 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: In the modern multicultural UK, there's plenty of competition for 99 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: the national dish. Chicken Tica Masala makes a strong claim, 100 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: but London born Panyani says that fish and chips is 101 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: still regarded as a culinary symbol of Britishness. Some chippy 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: traditions have changed over the years. For example, during the 103 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: war years, paper rations meant that fish and chips were 104 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: served in cones of yesterday's newspaper, and that practice went 105 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: out of favor in the nineteen eighties. And traditionally fish 106 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: and chips were accompanied by salt and malt vinegar, but 107 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: younger generations have turned to curry, sauce and even ketchup, 108 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: which Panayi says he't dream of doing. In northern England. 109 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: The classic side dish at the chippy is mushy peas, 110 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: a gray green concoction of well boiled field peas that 111 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: tastes much better than it looks or sounds, and any 112 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: chippy worth its salt will throw in a sprinkling of 113 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: scraps for customers savvy enough to ask, those, of course, 114 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: are the crispy bits of loose batter floating around in 115 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: the fryar. Today's episode was written by Dave Ruse and 116 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: produced by Tyler clayg. Brain Stuff is a production of 117 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio's How Stuff Works. 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