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Speaker 3: And we started our three hour journey on Monday talking

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Speaker 3: about what Sunday night football looked like, and it was

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Speaker 3: the Chargers dismantling the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers in particular

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Speaker 3: did not look good, looked a little skittish, looked a

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Speaker 3: little concerned, and we were just wondering, I mean, is

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Speaker 3: this going to be the norm moving forward? And so

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin, the Steelers head coach, was asked about long

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Speaker 3: term concerns about his quarterback and had this to say,

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Going to talk it up to an off night, but

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Speaker 4: there are no long term concerns. I'm just not going

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Speaker 4: to allow your words to be my words. That's all.

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Speaker 4: Sunday night was what it was. But I have no

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Speaker 4: long term reservations about his ability to play the position

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Speaker 3: All Right, So there's there's the head coach talking about

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Speaker 3: and I don't know man, I'm not surprised he said that.

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Speaker 3: It's not like he's going to come out and be like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, we have real concerns about him moving forward.

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Speaker 3: But I just don't know. They don't really have any

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Speaker 3: other choice. He's their guy. They've got a role with this,

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Speaker 3: and they've got to try and make sure that he

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Speaker 5: Be this year. No, not for what they're they're paying

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Speaker 5: their defense. And I keep going back to this whole

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Speaker 5: like I seemed like as soon as Aaron Rodgers got

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Speaker 5: the ball in his hand, he wanted to get it out.

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Speaker 5: He leads the league in that he's gigging out faster

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Speaker 5: same thing in Tampa. Now, granted, you know this is

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Speaker 5: than where Aaron Rodgers is at now. Although we never

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Speaker 5: really came away saying like, okay, they like they don't

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Speaker 5: not knocking it. It's just the problem is when when

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Speaker 3: To do so, I mean, doesn't it Isn't it also

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Speaker 3: I get all that, but I think there also is

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Speaker 3: said it to you before. I don't like the part

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Speaker 3: know about my dislocated decap. I mean that's been chronicled

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Speaker 3: the what you had happened to you to where you're

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Speaker 3: Like both those things would just throw like I would

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Speaker 3: I just wonder when they're talking about and there was

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Speaker 3: Can we just get through this year, Like, can we

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Speaker 3: I think everybody had the same takeaway to where that

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Speaker 3: It just didn't look right for him.

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Speaker 5: And I also keep going back to what the identity

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Speaker 5: of this team needs to be. Get back to running

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Speaker 5: need to have Aaron Rodgers throw the football fifty times

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Speaker 5: a game. Like I don't want to keep making comparisons

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Speaker 5: you've got a guy who's you know, forty one doing

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Speaker 5: you know, what Joe Flacco's doing, but when Burrow comes back,

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Speaker 5: but at that point in time in his career, I

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Speaker 5: don't know. I was kind of looking at thinking, wouldn't

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Speaker 5: you want to take some of the pressure off of him?

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Speaker 5: Or is your argument going to be like, hey, we

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Speaker 5: been a while since we've had a Hall of Fame guy.

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Speaker 5: There's a gap between Ben Roethlisberger and now Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 5: So now that we've got him, we're gonna use him

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Speaker 5: that plays into it, But you're right. I mean, it

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Speaker 5: I I'm one who always tries to preach patience about this.

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Speaker 5: So that's that's a part of life, how we've all evolved,

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Speaker 5: So learning that nonverbal communication, learning that body language takes time,

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Speaker 5: having a quarterback who's getting out in two point five seconds,

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Speaker 5: how it's supposed to look in year one, next year,

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Speaker 3: Why do you think Joe Flacco's better than him right now?

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Speaker 5: Good Win. But I just I think, I think you

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Speaker 3: And Flaco's like, oh, dude, like I played for the Jets,

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't like, I mean you need to like

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Speaker 3: Like my family's back home. I'm sitting at you know,

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Speaker 3: things happen when you're I think a seven and a

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Speaker 6: Well, Joe's a good coach, he really is. We've got

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Speaker 7: what happened with Brian day Ball, given his history here

431
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Speaker 7: in Buffalo and his relationship with Josh, would there be

432
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Speaker 7: any consideration reaching out to him to see if he

433
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Speaker 7: had any interest in joining the staff and in.

434
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Speaker 6: Any way, Yeah, no, I understand why you're asking that.

435
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 6: Brian's a great coach. Unfortunate to see that happen to

436
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 6: him at this point. That's that's not under any type

437
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Speaker 6: of consideration.

438
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Speaker 3: So there you go. If anybody who was looking for

439
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 3: the reunion with the Buffalo Bills and Brian Dayball and

440
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, they're gonna have to wait a little bit.

441
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Speaker 5: Yeah. I just when does that ever happen where guy's

442
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 5: gotten fired as a head coach and immediately joins another team.

443
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 3: You imagine Sean McDermott's like, yeah, listen, I'm glad you

444
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 3: brought that up. He'll be here to today, Like.

445
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's actually the back room right now, wait to

446
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 5: come out here. We're going to introduce you. What title

447
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 5: we giving him? Do you have offsets? All right, we'll

448
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 5: figure this out.

449
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 3: Brian da Ball And he just comes down and I

450
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 3: just got fired.

451
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, guys, wasn't that far of a trip, you know,

452
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,719
Speaker 5: I was just uh down in New Jersey.

453
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 3: Body's not even cold. What are we doing?

454
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Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I just is it that time

455
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 5: of the year where you know, reporters get bored or

456
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 5: was it more they just they sit in a room

457
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 5: by themselves and they just they think like, yeah, this

458
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 5: would be a good idea, this would be a good

459
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 5: question to ask, like this will yeah yeah, Like yeah,

460
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 5: he'll answer this like there's a chance this could happen.

461
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Speaker 3: I mean, why why would Brian Because I'm assuming, just

462
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,959
Speaker 3: to entertain the conversation, I'm assuming if you were to

463
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Speaker 3: take the offensive coordinator job, which is just preposterous, I'm

464
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 3: assuming that would the Giants then be off the hook

465
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Speaker 3: for whatever they were paying him? Was Wasn't that part

466
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Speaker 3: of the reason why? I think it was why Matt

467
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 3: Patricia was what didn't wasn't really given a label in

468
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 3: New England because if he was given a label in

469
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 3: New England to try, would would be wouldn't have to

470
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 3: be held responsible for paying him a portion of his

471
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 3: contract that was still remaining or something along the head lines. Correct,

472
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 3: So why would Brian da Ball give up money he's

473
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 3: getting for not doing anything to go take over as

474
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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator in Buffalo in week eleven?

475
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Speaker 5: I think the I mean, that's rather obvious, you know

476
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 5: why you wouldn't? I think the next questions more of

477
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,239
Speaker 5: is or would Brian Dable be willing to take a

478
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 5: lesser role? In general, once you become a head coach,

479
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 5: and he was obviously a head coach for a few years.

480
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 5: It wasn't like he was a head coach for a

481
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 5: year and got fired. You know, he was a head

482
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 5: coach for a while now to the point where he

483
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 5: wants another opportunity at it. He wants to go and

484
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 5: he wants to be able to do some things. I'm

485
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 5: sure a little bit different, but he'll probably look at

486
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Speaker 5: different situations and circumstances and think, if I was the

487
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 5: head coach, this is how what I've done things, and

488
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 5: I could make that team more successful. Like, once you

489
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 5: get to a certain level or status, you don't want

490
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 5: to go back. I mean, that's the reality of being

491
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 5: a head coach is you have complete control, or at

492
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 5: least in that situation, you had complete control as the

493
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 5: head coach of what your staff, what your team's going

494
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 5: to do. So you don't want to have to go

495
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 5: back to just being an OC or a DC or

496
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Speaker 5: a special teams coordinator. You know, that's a step back

497
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 5: in your mind. I think we all who are out

498
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 5: there working, we want to keep climbing. We'd like to

499
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 5: keep you know, moving past and moving beyond where we're

500
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 5: currently at, and to go take a lesser role, it's

501
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 5: it feels backwards. So I think that's the other thing

502
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 5: about this that I mean, the guy is purely basically

503
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 5: his question off of you know, the past history that

504
00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 5: Brian Dable and obviously the Buffalo Bills have had, but

505
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 5: for Brian Dabba, like why would he want that? I mean,

506
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: you know, he doesn't want to have to go back

507
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 5: to that and having to have someone else ultimately dictate

508
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 5: his schedule for his life and ultimately dictate, you know,

509
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 5: what's going to happen to his career. I mean, think

510
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 5: about that, Like you're putting your hands in another guy's

511
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 5: career or you excuse me, your career in another guy's hands.

512
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 5: With how you go about choosing who you want to

513
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 5: coach for until you become a head coach, that's what

514
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 5: you're doing. Like is this guy going to be able

515
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 5: to be a good leader? Is this guy not going

516
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 5: to mess things up? Like, think about any assistance out

517
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 5: there who signed on to be with a coach who

518
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 5: is a head coach he got canned in his first year.

519
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 5: Like you just uprooted your family, you just found a

520
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 5: place to live. You've just maybe gotten into a routine

521
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 5: at that city or in that city, and next thing

522
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 5: you know, you're the rub getting rug gets ripped from

523
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 5: out underneath you. You got to coach fired halfway through the season,

524
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 5: and you've got the entire staff looking for the next job.

525
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 5: Your kids are now sitting there saying, like, Dad, are

526
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 5: we were going to be in school here next semester?

527
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 5: Next year, we're gonna hang around. We just I just

528
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 5: started to make friends. Like think about all those things

529
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 5: that impact your personal life. So again, I just I

530
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 5: don't know that he's gonna want to go back. I

531
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 5: think if anything, he'll you know, be patient and maybe

532
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 5: look for that next head coaching job, wherever that may be.

533
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Speaker 3: Do you think that he's somebody who needs a pit

534
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: stop as an OC in order to get considered for

535
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Speaker 3: another job.

536
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 5: Already did it? Already did it. He went back to

537
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 5: New England after he had stints in you know, Cleveland

538
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 5: and Kansas City and others. He did that. He went

539
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 5: to Bama. I mean you went to the both car washers.

540
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 5: I mean call plays in out you know, at all

541
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 5: Obama to get back up into the NFL. So you know, again,

542
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 5: once your head coach, I mean, you can go call

543
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 5: plays for someone you respect and all that. I mean,

544
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 5: Josh McDaniel, unless you get the head coaching job, He's

545
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 5: not going anywhere so, you know, and I'm not sure

546
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 5: Mike Grabil, you know, would how well he knows Brian

547
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 5: Dable and we would have won him. But you know,

548
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick's out there anymore, and Nick Saban's out of coaching,

549
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 5: So I'm not sure where you go, you know, after

550
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 5: this and what role you take. But yeah, maybe, because

551
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 5: he's done it before, he would see that as an

552
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 5: avenue to get his name back out there and all

553
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 5: that maybe be TV. You know, Brian's a very charismatic guy.

554
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 5: He's a super smart, witty guy. He likes to have fun.

555
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 5: I think most people who cover, who covered the Bills,

556
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 5: who covered probably the Giants, probably enjoyed him, enjoyed taking

557
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 5: all he's a he's a great dude. Players you know,

558
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 5: love him as a person. It just it didn't work

559
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 5: out with New York.

560
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Josh I've said this before, Drake May finds

561
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 3: himself in a pretty advantageous spot because I don't I

562
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: can't imagine Josh McDaniels is going to get another opportunity

563
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: to coach. I just can't.

564
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 5: He will. It just will take some time.

565
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: Because and now you know what, he's back there, Drake

566
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: May is playing the way he's playing, and you know

567
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: he's just gonna he's gonna ride that. There's gonna be

568
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: no inconsistency. He's not gonna have to worry about him

569
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: leaving to go else where anytime soon.

570
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 5: It just why do you keep saying that? Because he'll

571
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 5: he'll eventually get a head coaching opportunity. It was this league.

572
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 5: This league is starving for offensive minds. It's an offensive

573
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 5: league to lead their franchise, and eventually it'll come back around. Well,

574
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 5: they'll say, man, you know when Drake May just want MVP. Oh,

575
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 5: the Patriots just won a Super Bowl again. You know

576
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 5: with the Drake may Man that offense is so good,

577
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 5: maybe we shouldn't interview Josh McDaniels. Like it always comes

578
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 5: back around. And organizations that I'm not gonna say it

579
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 5: like desperate, but when they needed a head coach. They've

580
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 5: got a young, promising quarterback, and they see what Josh

581
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 5: mccannis is doing with Drake May, they will come knocking.

582
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: I mean, the Raiders was a disaster.

583
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 5: I mean that the way that holding, how are they

584
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 5: doing now?

585
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: Well, I would agree with you, but I think that

586
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: there was enough stories out of there that maybe people wonder,

587
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: you know, is he fit for the job. I'm not

588
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: saying he's not. I'm just saying I wonder if there's

589
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: enough people around the NFL to go. Denver went the

590
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: way that it went, The Raiders went the way that

591
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: it win. He had his chance.

592
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 5: I get that. And there's obviously the Colts story, which

593
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 5: you know, bothered people. Whatever what it was, signed signs snaff.

594
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's how long we've been doing the

595
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: show together like that, we still remember the facts that

596
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: was in play for Josh McDaniels, who supposedly was accepting

597
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts job according to the Colts, except he

598
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 3: never actually signed on the dotted line, which is kind

599
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: of important, and the Colts just ran with the story

600
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: anyways on social media. That's a lot we've been doing

601
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: this show.

602
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 5: But they found themselves now in a good spot, so,

603
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 5: you know, water under the Bridge. I would go back

604
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 5: and say this, Look, the Raiders have been in a

605
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 5: tough spot for a while, so I'm not sure you

606
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 5: put that fully on him, even though it again, it

607
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 5: didn't look good. The Broncos were off to a six,

608
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 5: and I was start it was hot, and then I

609
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 5: feel you know, I wasn't there. I don't know exactly

610
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 5: what happened. I know in year two, you know what

611
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 5: took place, and you know he was dismissed without you know,

612
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 5: finishing that season. And I think the tough thing is

613
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 5: in each one of those situations. And again I don't

614
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 5: care and speak to the Raiders, but you know, even

615
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 5: for the Broncos, you know, it took them going to

616
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 5: get you know, Gary Kubiak and Peyton Manning, and you

617
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 5: know that gave them that run of success with John

618
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 5: Fox and then into Kubiak, but you know, since then

619
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 5: then they kind of went through this lull. I'm trying

620
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 5: to figure it out again, and I feel like the

621
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 5: ownership was somewhat unstable, you know, during that time, and

622
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 5: mister Bowlan, who was a tremendous man and incredible owner,

623
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 5: but he wasn't, you know, at that point in time,

624
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 5: kind of overseeing it all. And so that that plays

625
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 5: a role in all of that. And I'm and again

626
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 5: the Broncs in a completely different position now and a

627
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 5: much better spot now, and they've got that stability with

628
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 5: Sean Payton is their head coach, and obviously with the

629
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 5: new ownership group but I do think that that probably

630
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 5: played a little bit of a role too, and how

631
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 5: some of the things went there in Denver looking back

632
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 5: on it now, So I don't know. Again, I think

633
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 5: he'll get another opportunity. Hopefully we'll work together long enough

634
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 5: to be able to see that opportunity where he does

635
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 5: sign the dotted line and you have to eat crow again.

636
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: I'm with you, man, Hey, I think we're coming up

637
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: on ten years together, like we're getting marks. Yeah, we're

638
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: coming up on a decade too long. Yeah, coming off

639
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: on a decade.

640
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 5: LeVar is probably gonna kill it off when it's all

641
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 5: said done.

642
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's going to be on his h on

643
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: his conscious that we had a ten year run going

644
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: and he spoiled the party. Like I mean, we're one

645
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Speaker 3: of the longest running duos at this network if you

646
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Speaker 3: think about it. That's impressed long and by the way,

647
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: longest tenured team that you've ever had.

648
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Speaker 5: That is true. Yeah, who's actually been together longer than us?

649
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Speaker 3: I think maybe Jasonson.

650
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Speaker 5: Not the Odd Couple, Yeah nothing, not the Odd Company.

651
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: No, No, because I want to know part of Rob

652
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: after a while, I don't blame him. And then I

653
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: would say uh, Coveno and Rich, but not at this network.

654
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: They've been together a long time. Yeah, there's not a

655
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: lot man like, Yeah, Chris playing one, Arnie Spanier, Jason Smith,

656
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: Mike Harmon. I don't know, but we're we're in contention.

657
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: We're definitely up there. I could like we've paid our dues. Also,

658
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: you know, I was thinking about when we're talking about

659
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Speaker 3: guys that were head coaches and at a certain point

660
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: they'll get an opportunity again. You know who I love

661
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: has handled it the right way. Adam Gase man up

662
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: and vanished like a fart in the wind. Hey, you

663
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: know what f this like, I'm just gonna go do

664
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Speaker 3: what I do. I don't even know what he's doing now,

665
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: Like what.

666
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 5: Is he his kids? Yeah, he's raising his kids for him,

667
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 5: which is admirable too because he'll have the opportunity to

668
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: get back into it when he wants to. But he's

669
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 5: been concer there's he's been still staying active and busy,

670
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 5: like doing film breakdown stuff like that. But you know,

671
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 5: he he's I think he had an earnout from the Jets,

672
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 5: so obviously he couldn't do anything. I think until that

673
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 5: earnout was finished, but he was just being a dad,

674
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Speaker 5: you know, getting you know, back healthy, raising his kids.

675
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Speaker 5: So he he kind of took some time away from it,

676
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 5: and we were just understandable too, Like I think people

677
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 5: tend to forget. Yeah, you're highly compensated, but you don't

678
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: realize the impact that it has on your kids and

679
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 5: on your family and the stress they go through and

680
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 5: the stuff they have to deal with on top of

681
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 5: that too. So uh, he's he's doing great though. I

682
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 5: actually I saw him probably about a year ago. It

683
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 5: looked like he was in really good spirits. So I'm

684
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 5: sure he'll get back to it again again. All these

685
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 5: young guys that you're like writing off just because the

686
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 5: prior head coaching experience didn't work, they grow and they

687
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 5: learn from this. It's not like it's gonna be the

688
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Speaker 5: same thing the next time around.

689
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Speaker 3: Why do I get labeled as a guy writing them

690
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Speaker 3: off simply.

691
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Speaker 5: Because you're the one I said, josh Daniels will not

692
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Speaker 5: be a head coaching.

693
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Speaker 3: Obso, like if I was a betting man, I would

694
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Speaker 3: say not. I like Joshua Daniels. But I just think

695
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Speaker 3: that there's a repida because.

696
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Speaker 5: Here's the other thing is you get like the first

697
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 5: time head coaches in the NFL who go into him

698
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 5: and when it is a disaster because they, again they

699
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 5: don't know what they're doing. You get teams that are like, well,

700
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Speaker 5: I don't want to do that, you know, I'd rather

701
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 5: find a guy who, like again Brian Callahan's time in Tennessee,

702
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 5: he was set up to fail in the first place,

703
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 5: but it did work out well. And when teams are

704
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 5: going to look at that and say, well, we are

705
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 5: scared of doing that, We'd rather bring in a guy

706
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 5: and even if he hasn't been the most successful, if

707
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 5: he's got prior head coaching experience, he knows what to expect.

708
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 5: We're going to have someone who's who's not here making

709
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 5: decisions for the first time, or we have to bring

710
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 5: in people to help him, like he's going to know

711
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 5: what to do.

712
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, I hope they all get another opportunity,

713
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: and I hope we continue on because the fact that

714
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: the NFL continues to turn and burn six or seven

715
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: or eight coaches a year is still wild. Like it's

716
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: almost a third of the league gets clipped every single

717
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: year in the NFL, So you talk.

718
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 5: About this is kind of crazy. If you think about that, right.

719
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Speaker 3: It doesn't like it's and nobody looks at that. They

720
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: just go, oh, well, you know who's getting It's like

721
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: we we almost celebrate Black Monday, like, oh well it's

722
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: Black Monday. It's like, okay, awesome, guys are getting fired

723
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: and they're getting their dream shattered. Yeah, they're making a

724
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 3: lot of money. Okay, Well you know when they were,

725
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: you know, making you know, four dollars an hour trying

726
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: to come up the ranks. You know, they weren't doing

727
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: it because of the pay. They were doing it because

728
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: they wanted to be a code. That was their goal.

729
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: And they get that opportunity and next thing you know,

730
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: they're out the door and it's like, well it's black Monday.

731
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 3: Who got fired again?

732
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 5: Okay?

733
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: Like and then there's you got paparazzi that are now

734
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: following Brian Dayball. There's like pictures on the internet on

735
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: social media of Brian Dayball outside his home. Dude, they

736
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: did the same thing with jo Judge. Just let the guy,

737
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: Let the guy move on with his life. Okay, it

738
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: didn't work out, all right, stop, Let's let's let the

739
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: guy enjoy the holidays with his family and that's it.

740
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: All right, we don't need the Papa Rozzi following him

741
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: around because he's a Giants coach that got fired. And

742
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: if you're gonna do that, that's probably gonna happen with

743
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: the next guy that's gonna get clipped from the Giants.

744
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 5: It's just I just I just searched this. There's some

745
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 5: d bag on Instagram and the title with the picture

746
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 5: is spotted at home. It's like, right, all right, moron,

747
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 5: where else do you I mean, like, yeah, we all

748
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 5: have a home, we live somewhere, like of course it's

749
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 5: a photo of him like outside his.

750
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: Home, like ok like he's diddy like spotted Like.

751
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 5: It's just it's more like, okay, like where else did

752
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 5: you want him to be? Like at a coffee shop?

753
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 5: Or you're mad you didn't get a photo from there?

754
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: By the way, I think I think in that picture,

755
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, day Balls weren't a Penn State sweater.

756
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: I think he's more like a Penn State hoodie. You know,

757
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: So I think there is that. So it just yeah,

758
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 3: the whole thing is, you know, it's kind of crazy. Also,

759
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: do we have a I don't know, should we save this?

760
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 3: You know, I mean we'll actually, you know, let's just

762
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: let's just mention this here. This for some reason, this

763
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: was breaking news. I don't know there was that big

764
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: of a.

765
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 5: Deal, but.

766
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: Jamis Winston elevated to number two quarterback and expected to

767
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 3: start on Sunday in the event Jackson Dart doesn't clear

768
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 3: the concussion protocol. Per Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network,

769
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 3: Winston was moved ahead of Russell Wilson as interim coach

770
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: Mike Kafka informed them. So there is that.

771
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 5: I don't know why they didn't put Jamis Winston as

772
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 5: the backup for this most recent game, Like basically, since

773
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 5: they benched Russell Wilson, it should have been Winston the

774
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 5: rest of the time. I'm not really sure why that

775
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 5: move wasn't made before.

776
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Russell Wilson man that I can't catch a break.

777
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 5: Well, it's not even that, it's just like, you know,

778
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 5: the head coach had kind of moved on. It felt

779
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 5: like maybe even the team had moved on to degree

780
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 5: and you know, Russell got his opportunity, Jackson got to

781
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 5: go in when he was hurt. You probably should give

782
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 5: Jamis an opportunity. Like, again, a very capable quarterback doesn't

783
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 5: have the same resume as Russell, but I mean doesn't

784
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 5: hurt to try, right, you.

785
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 3: Can go out there slinging it. It's gonna be Joe

786
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: Flacco again. It's gonna happen. He was doing it last year.

787
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Speaker 3: Up next, it's the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

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Speaker 3: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: LeVar No, LeVar, Yeah, sorry about that. That's just a

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Speaker 3: bad habit, bad habit, but it is Brady Quinn and

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Speaker 3: Jonas Knox with you here. LaVar is not here, but

802
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Speaker 3: blick you and I are going to check you all

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Speaker 3: the way out.

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Speaker 5: It cannot adjust.

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00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: It's been it's just been doing it.

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00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 5: You're an old dog man. They can't teach a new tricks.

807
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: Just been doing it for so long, for so long,

808
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: also kind of spoiled my award a little bit, but nonetheless,

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Speaker 3: we will talk to Petros. Papaeka's coming up here top

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Speaker 3: of next hour a little over ten minutes from now.

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Speaker 2: There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,

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Speaker 2: and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,

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Speaker 2: bad and lovely.

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00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 3: All right, Bremiro, who's got what this week? All right?

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Speaker 8: E Jonas, you're up, You're you got.

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Speaker 5: The good first.

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00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: So the good for this week is this show without LeVar.

823
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: I think it's been smooth. I think there's been a

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00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: real opportunity unities here to showcase our skill sets, and

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00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 3: I feel like this show has been better than any

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Speaker 3: show we've done this week, and it's pretty glaringly obvious

827
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: why that is. It's because LeVar is not here. So

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Speaker 3: that's my good for the week.

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Speaker 8: All right, you ready, euroupe?

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Speaker 5: You got the bad? The bad? Well, that would be

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00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 5: Kentucky last night losing the in state rival Louisville. As

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Speaker 5: some people know, I've been raised a big Kentucky Wildcat fan,

833
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 5: in particular for men's basketball, and uncle who played football.

834
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Speaker 5: There's Steve Slat's almost Steve, so you know, like any

835
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 5: other Bandwagon fan, they were really good when I was young.

836
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 5: My uncle went there, we grew up going down to Lexington,

837
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 5: so became a fan. I just they're so talented, man,

838
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 5: and I feel like they just they underachieved defensively. It

839
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 5: was a nightmare and the almost gave up one hundred

840
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 5: points of Louisville last night. So I don't know. I

841
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 5: don't know on the fence right now about Mark Pope,

842
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 5: I thought he was the guy. I thought he made

843
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 5: a lot of sense. I just I don't know. I

844
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 5: thought last night was one of those measuring stick games,

845
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 5: and clearly Kentucky basketball is now where it needs to be.

846
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 5: So last night that was bad. Almost actually as bad

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Speaker 5: as the take you just had.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean bad? Like, I can end at

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Speaker 3: whatever reward I want.

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Speaker 5: I miss var, I miss him, man, I don't.

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Speaker 8: Alrighty and I have the ugly and so I'm going

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00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 8: to say my saint's fandom is pretty ugly because Tyler

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00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 8: Shuck played on any when they beat the Panthers, and

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00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 8: now I'm like rooting for Tyler Shuck even though I

855
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 8: was Spencer Rattler for the first like, you know, eight weeks,

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Speaker 8: nine weeks. So that's the ugly for me. Wow, I know,

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Speaker 8: I know, yeah, not loyal, not loyal at all.

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Speaker 5: I call that ugly, but it's not good

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Speaker 8: Well mean, but you are low you still root for

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Speaker 8: the same I know that's true, but go Tyler Shuck.