WEBVTT - Find Your Travel Tribe 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:17.360 You want to you want to open? I know I 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:18.239 usually opened, you wanna. 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.040 It was really weird last week when I said, hey, hey. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:26.480 Hey, all right, I'll do it. Hey, hey, guys, did 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:27.160 you miss me? 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.080 I know I wasn't feeling so great last week, but 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.000 you guys had an awesome show because honestly, you had 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:36.599 one of my faves. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha, She's amazing. So 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:38.879 but I did miss you, guys. I'm so glad that 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.240 Brown Ambitioned. It's back and we are black and brown. 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.440 So I'm excited for today's show. Are you excited for 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:47.960 Toda's show? 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:48.240 Mandy? 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.440 I've been waiting for this because you've been talking about 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.960 her NonStop. I feel like since we launched Brown Ambition. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.000 I can't believe it's taken us two years to have 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:55.360 her on. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.240 I know we have a special guest that you'll hear 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.120 a little bit more about later by this time. By 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.040 the time they hear from us next, Mandy, I'll be 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.360 a missus A miss yeah, a missus like. 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.680 You married woman. Yeah to the dog side. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:10.600 I'm joining the double ring club. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.280 Wait, Mandy, so wait with the ring, which one goes, 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.520 which one goes to the bottom your your your engagement 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:16.520 ring or your wedding ring. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:22.680 There's no rules. No, don't believe in any rules. I mean, 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:27.080 I put my wedding band below it. There's also an 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.560 unspoken rule of like when do you stop wearing your 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.960 engagement ring? Because you know what I mean, Like there's 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.560 a lot of anyway. I don't know, just whenever you 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.240 just get tired of it poking you in the face 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:37.440 when you sleep. I guess. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.560 Yeah no. But I'm excited though, so I can't wait 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:43.640 to see you there. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.880 I can, we can, we can talk about it right again. Okay, awesome, Yeah, 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.960 I'm so excited. I'm sorry I had to miss your 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:54.080 surprise bridal shower yesterday. I'm getting my teeth ripped out 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:54.680 of my face. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.480 No, it's fine, because I almost missed it. I was like, 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.760 I don't feel like going. Girols, like you only should. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.680 Go, so like we were having a surprise party. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:04.000 No, I didn't know. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.440 My friend Linda told me that she was doing a 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.360 speaking engagement, her very first one. And I was like Linda, 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.639 because Linda's kind of on the shy side, and I'm 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:13.520 like what, And. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:14.640 She's like, can you please come with me? 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.400 I know you're used to it, but I was like 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.840 exhausted and tired, and I wasn't in the greatest mood. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.840 And Jerrelle was like, well, Superman, I mean, look at me. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.639 I sound like you now, Man, he's just putting people's 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:28.120 names off. Superman was like, you should really go. I 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:29.400 was like, I don't any line I got. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.639 He's like, you really need to get out of the house. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:34.960 And I didn't really realize why. And I was like, 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.080 why is everybody pushing me to get out of the house. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.280 So I was slightly suspicious, but I didn't know that's 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.120 what it was. I was just like, what's happening? And 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.800 it turned out to be awesome. Honestly, it was so me. 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.639 It was just a lunch with like I don't know, 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:51.600 it must have been like fifteen twenty people if that, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.919 just like my closest family and his family and friends, 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.280 and we just had lunch and hung out. It was 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:01.480 honestly a precursor to like what our poets vow exchange 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.800 lunch is gonna look like the fanciest thing of like 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:06.919 our whole I hate to even say the word wedding 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.799 because it's really like we're exchanging vows we're having lunch 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.680 with family and friends, like literally under thirty people, like 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.639 twenty five people, twenty eight. I don't know is that 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.800 the fanciest thing is my dress. My dress is like 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.080 super fancy in comparison to the fact that everything else 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.280 is like so like you know, like laid back and chill. 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.240 But I was like, no, I want this fancy dress. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.600 I have our priorities. Don't tell me anything. I want 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.400 to be surprised. I want to be stunned. I think 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.680 it's Supergirl going to be throwing pedals. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.880 No, Supergirl is like, you know, she's not. I don't 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.280 think so anyway, because we're honestly, because it's just we're 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:42.920 going to the justice of the piece and then we're 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.440 going to have lunch with our family and friends. 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:46.560 I know it's going to be all very cute, very humble, 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:47.920 but come on at the wedding. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.560 I know, right, we're definitely gonna do like a whole 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.440 And it's crazy because I so we're because I live 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.960 right next to really beautiful park and so it's beautiful. 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.480 So we're going to take like hours worth of pictures 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.640 beforehand of like just pictures, and my friend, well, my 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:06.880 video guy have you ever seen any of my budgetist 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.120 videos on social media or online. He's amazing. Well, he's 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.600 a director really, and he's young, like in his twenties. 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.640 So he's actually here because he's coming with me to 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.680 Essence Fest. And so I was like, well, while you're 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.800 here because he lives in Jersey. Well he's from Jersey. 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:23.560 He lives all over the world now. But and so 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:24.760 I was like, while you're here, do you think you 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.880 could do a little cute wedding video? He said, yeah, 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.560 So I'm excited about that too, So expect to be 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.480 nauseated by pictures and video. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:33.360 I'm so excited for you. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:35.280 Yeah, I'm excited. 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.480 It's weird, I know, like, was it weird the transition, 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.719 like when you guys like came back to the apartment 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.320 where you guys were like, hey husband. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.120 I mean I was a little bit. No, not weird. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.320 It did sort of feel I don't know, we'll see 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.240 how Superman does, but I did feel like Enrique for 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.119 the first time, like a little bit of that Latin 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.599 machismo came out where he's like, yes, I am a 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:03.520 husband and you are my wife. 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.719 Somebody else, the young woman Andrea who's making my dress 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.840 she's got this amazing if you ever get a chance 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.440 to go to Pantora Bridal like her, uh Pantra p 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:14.520 A n t O r A. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.040 She's on Instagram and like and she has her own webite. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.800 She's like twenty eight Mandy. She's literally a. 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:26.520 She's an artist. Her stuff is amazing. I'm like, wait, 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:27.440 how old are you again? 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.120 And are in the lines and I'm almost thirty. 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.000 Her stuff is I mean, I just can't even describe 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.800 how amazing. So she made my dress and she just 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.520 got married herself just last year, and she said the 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.120 same thing. She was like, cause it's just like us. 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:42.320 She lived with her husband. 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.559 Beforehand, and it was like, I was like, it didn't 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.880 really change when you guys got married. She's like, no, 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:51.359 but he definitely was more protective, Like that's my wife, 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.400 you know. And she said that, you know, you might 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.240 see that a little bit. But other than that, she's like, 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:56.200 it's the same awesome. 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:57.839 Yeah. 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.600 Well, I mean if it was her, there's what I'll say. 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.880 If it was good before, it'll be good after. It 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.320 was bad before, it'll be bad after that. Is that 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:06.920 a downer now? 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.920 Because not for me, because I don't think it's good now, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:09.159 you know. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:13.520 I just it's good things worse. There's what I'll say. Yeah, no, 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:17.599 I make good things better and actually bad things worse. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:19.320 Yeah. I'm just glad. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:24.360 I'm really fortunate in that I found the perfectly imperfect 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.800 partner because I can be a hot mess and I'm 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.559 always like, yeah, my bad about everything that's gonna happen. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.839 But here it is. And the fact that he's like, 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.840 oh my crazy baby, I'm like thanks. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.120 My mom was very excited when I told her you're 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:39.800 getting married. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:41.040 Oh she was. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:42.440 She sends her best. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.240 Oh thank you, mama, Tifa. That's so cute. I love 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:46.080 your mom and your sister. 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:46.839 They're so cute. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.560 So anything new happening that I missed out in your life? 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:53.120 I feel like we haven't spoken in so long. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.279 I got a tooth taken out on Sunday, which was 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.680 the worst thing I've ever done. And Magnify money got acquired. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.839 I heard. I was like, wait, I mean that's like 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.120 every CEOs, well most people who build a business. That's like, 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.640 you know, like the golden fleee isn't the right terminology. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.360 I don't know if the golden flee like the golden goose, 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.400 like the golden parachute, like you know what I mean, 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:17.600 basically the end goal. 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:24.320 At a second, I'm turning it to my dad because 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.040 he always mixes up like his his like you know, 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.680 he'll be like, hey, I don't know, like right, dad 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.880 always mixes up his terminology, like that's not the word 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.840 you think I think you meant to use, but you 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:36.480 know what I mean. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.280 Yeah, So it was. It's all sort of been obviously 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.880 really really really really really been sitting on this for 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.040 a little while, not as long as the founders of 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.040 the company, but for too long. I hate keeping secrets. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.119 Super exciting Magnify Money. We were bought by lending Tree, 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:55.480 which is a huge, a huge player in like the 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:59.760 mortgage business. They've been around since the nineties, and you 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.160 know they they bought us, and basically what that means 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.720 when companies get acquired is that essentially, you know, we're 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.160 now It's sort of like the way I've described it, 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.760 it's like Hurst magazine or Conde Nass. They have a 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:15.320 bunch of different brands, different magazines underneath your umbrella, and 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.800 so we're going to be a brand underneath the lending 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:21.960 Tree umbrella. Okay, but luckily, you know, I came from 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.760 a world where when you got acquired and then everyone 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:24.320 gets fired. 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.280 I was thinking that it was like, you seem pretty 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:27.200 excited considerably. 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.520 I've always I'm like, yes, it's okay. It's the kind 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.920 of acquisition where people don't lose their jobs, and in fact, 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:36.200 my job will get a lot bigger and scarier soon. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.840 So like, isn't it so crazy? How you know? 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.800 You're like, oh, I'm going to leave this huge conglomerate 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.400 Yahoo to do this, you know, you know, a little smaller, 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.960 a little humbler job, and all of a sudden, you're like, psych, 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:50.360 I was kicking ass. 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.280 Sometimes I wonder where I got the balls. I'm like, gow, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.880 how did I do that? I could? I don't even. Yeah, 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.000 I think that being so far away from having left 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.400 like a big corporation or leaving y'allhoo, a big brand, 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.040 like a recognizable media brand, being so far I'm like, 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.320 I realized now the huge risk I took, now that 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.079 it's sort of paid off, as that makes sense, Like 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.199 I guess I was just like putting my hand down 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.520 and doing the work and not really thinking about everything 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.920 that was sort of on the line. But yeah, things 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:18.839 are working out and I'm excited, and everyone, the whole 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.240 team is sort of staying on. All the faiths, all 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.880 your faiths are going to stay on. And it's yes, 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.800 we're just sort of like moving forward. But what it 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.120 means is we get more resources. I can hire more people, 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.880 which is awesome. And we're all down in Charlotte, this 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.920 is where lending Tree is based. We're down here this 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.760 week to meet our new to meet our new colleagues 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:44.800 and eat some barbecue. I guess yeah, so much change. 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.440 Are we ready for our guests? 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.040 I'm ready? 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.040 Are you ready be a listeners? 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.720 I hope you are, because I think you're going to 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.080 really enjoy her, because I know I do. She's not 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.640 just you know, like a business owner. She's not just 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:03.720 the innovator, not just to influencer. She's also my friend. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:10.960 Come on down. I'm so loopy, I'm exhausted. Might gonna lie. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.240 I'm gonna save this one. We have the delightful Avita 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.480 Robinson on the show today of No Madness Without further Ado. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.280 Here's our chat with Avida two snaps. 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:30.800 Yay, hey, hey, hey, be a listener. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:31.880 So I'm super excited. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.240 You know, we don't usually have a whole bunch of 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.080 guests on Brown Ambition because you know Mandy stink Now, 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:42.800 I'm just joking. No, I'm always the one that's like, 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.080 aw but no, we don't have a whole lot of 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.480 a whole lot of guests. But this guest I'm super 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:52.360 duper excited about because she is the founder of a 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.520 movement that I'm a part of. She's one of the 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.040 reasons why I travel so dang all much. We have 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.000 a Vita Turquoise Robins, and she is the founder of 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:01.719 No Madness. 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.720 Welcome a Vida. Thank you, ladies, I really appreciate it. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.280 Thanks so much for coming on, Avita. I'm so excited 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:11.080 because I feel like Tiffany has been talking about you 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.720 since the founding of Brown Ambition. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:19.640 Yeah, that's my sweetheart, So Avida, like, I think, well 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.120 not everyone's familiar with No Madness, So let's start with that. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.160 Like what is no Madness? Yea? And like how did 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:25.880 you start it? Why did you start it? So? 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:29.160 No Madness is an international travel group. We are approaching 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.760 seventeen thousand members right now worldwide, and we are made 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:37.600 up primarily of Brown women, African American women eighty percent, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:42.120 although we have all ethnicities and all gender affiliations as 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.640 a part of No Madness travel Tribe, but we definitely 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.520 are skewed more towards African American women travelers that are 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.240 located all over the world. We have a large population 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.960 scattered around the US, but we are definitely full of 0:11:55.040 --> 0:12:00.000 location independence entrepreneurs, creatives who have decided that they were 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.040 to curate their life and that does not include being 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.600 in the United States of America at this point. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:05.880 Of their kind of their juncture. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.280 So it's yeah, yeah, but it's an online resource where literally, 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.240 if you were going to travel anywhere literally tomorrow, you 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.240 could just say, I want to roll out to Italy tomorrow, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:17.800 Where's the best place. 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:18.840 To stay, who's in town? 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.000 Is there a couch I can crash on, where's the 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.160 restaurant and the club to hit up? And it's a 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.760 twenty four to seven communication cycle of people really just 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:30.559 supporting one another, and that kind of bleeds into offline 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.040 relationships which are done by over one hundred meetups that 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.360 we have around the world throughout the year. We have 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.960 approaching fifty ambassadors for No Madness right now regionally in 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.800 different parts of the planet, which is really awesome. So 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.920 they're the liaison locally to also my team and the 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:51.080 Greater No Madness Travel Tribe community, and we're talking about meetups. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.520 To different sites and landmarks, to you know, a. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.560 Group of people getting together just to have dinner and 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.760 vibe out in some crazy locale, all the way to 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.760 huge events that we throw, like the one that's coming 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:06.240 up soon actually is our annual barbecue, which has morphed 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.640 from an event that's usually around two hundred to two 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.760 hundred and fifty members and now we have over six 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:11.600 hundred coming. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:13.960 So that's what I've been working on. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.240 I remember, like when I first joined No Madness, I 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.440 think like I had just missed out on like this 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.480 trip you guys were going to India, and I was 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.559 so jealous because I remember I had seen pictures of 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.040 the Holy Festival where they throw like that powder, and 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.720 I put it literally on my vision board and I said, 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:32.520 this time, I didn't even know if you were ever 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.400 going to go back, but I said, I'm going to 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.400 go to Holy with No Madness, and I put it 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.640 on my vision board. And I remember I was on 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.280 a date and not with my super Superman, not with 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.800 my dude now, but I was on this date before him. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.640 And I remember you having a buy in. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.199 So Mandy, they have like when a Vida used to 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.400 do trips, they would have buyings that would sell out 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.920 literally in five minutes. Yeah, and so they had a 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.600 buyo and I told my date, I was like, so 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.040 in about five minutes, this trip that I want to 0:13:58.080 --> 0:13:59.800 go on is having a buy in. So I'm whiving 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:02.400 up my computer and I'm I'm handling my business. So 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.520 we were at a restaurant, I took my computer and 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.360 I got on and it was amazing. Honestly, hands down 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.640 one of the best vacations, the best experiences that I'm 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.360 still friends with so many of the women that were 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:14.160 on that trip. 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.120 It was amazing. So what made you like think and 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:17.560 I don't want to take up all your questions many 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:18.920 but what made you wait? 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.440 Wait, wait, I trying to keep up. 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:23.880 Maybe like hould up now? 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.240 I have so many questions. That's why I'm going to 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.800 be like pull the brakes. Okay. So first, because I've 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.480 heard about these trips, these amazing trips that you guys planned, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.800 So are you part Like because I've been on these 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.440 organized trips that I booked through a travel like a 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.040 travel agency, and it's all sort of like planned out 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:43.840 for us and you just pay a fee. Do you 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.040 guys offer that as well, like more than kind of 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.960 just a community but actual trips. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.200 Well, yeah, so we're approaching six years old, right, and 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.680 so for the first five years that was primarily what 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.080 we've done. And five years i'm my team as well 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.440 as myself. I've curated over thirty trips internationally with No 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.240 Madness Travel Tribe, and it has varied to all these 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:08.480 different countries and amazing destinations around the world, ranging somewhere 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.720 between usually ten two on the high end when I'm crazy, 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.280 around thirty five people on one trip, and tip the 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.240 one that you were on, Tiffany was pretty sizable too, 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.320 because India was like a rush like everybody people were 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.400 not even avid travelers don't like to go. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:23.160 To India alone. 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.720 So they were like, look like I'm jumping in on 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.080 somebody who's she's been doing this for a couple of years. 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.800 She's been going to India even before she started No 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:31.760 Madness on her own. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.000 So you know, I had the legwork and the dues 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:36.840 paid as far as India was concerned. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.480 But yeah, what we would do is drop the buy 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.880 in and we don't get involved with flights. We never 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.280 have and that makes sense just because my members live 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.720 all around the world. Nobody's ever leaving from the same 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:49.960 place at the same time, let alone a group of 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:51.960 you know, somewhere between fifteen. 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:52.360 To twenty people. 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.920 So we would take care of the itinerary points as 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.360 well as the lodging and like round trip transportation to 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.760 and from the airports, as well as of the itinerary 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.400 points that we created. So that's essentially what people would 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.840 be buying into when it was a no madness package. 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.000 Oh that sounds amazing. I mean, as someone I accidentally 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.000 went to India alone last year. Not accidentally. I went 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.040 for work and I was like, well, I'm all the 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.760 way in India. I need to actually go to Mumbai 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:21.680 and like see what this is like. And I've always 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.880 been like a confident, independent traveler, but one of the 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.040 first things I did was arranged like a get part 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.840 of join like a walking tour, and there were three 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.320 other single women on the tour and we just sort 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.360 of just like all glombed together. And it was so 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.440 and you're like, yes, because you want to like play tough, 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.080 but it is so you just feel so much more 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:41.120 relaxed when you're it. 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:46.320 Yeah, India specifically is a very polarizing place, and I've 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:47.360 heard it and I've seen it. 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.160 You know, India for the most part, when. 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:50.720 People go with us, they you know, they want to 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:51.280 go back. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:52.720 Or they really took something from it. 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.800 It has the ability to be a real life changing 0:16:54.960 --> 0:17:00.040 trip because it will humble you upon arrival. Yes, and 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:01.760 and that's one of the biggest things. That's why I've 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.159 gone to India every year for the last seven years 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.879 in a row, even before i started No Madness, And 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.720 so that's how I've built these organic connections with people. 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:11.840 A lot of the first places that I traveled to 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:13.880 and brought the group to were places that I had 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.720 been as a backpacker, you know, before I started this, 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:19.920 Because it's so ironic, I was kind of this road 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.320 warrior that would get a backpack and just go off 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.359 and be a solo traveler before I started doing group trips. 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.760 It's No Madness that brought me into group trips. I 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.159 actually didn't even know if I wanted to travel with 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.800 people when I first started No Madness and then just 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:35.879 kind of saying yes to the community as. 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.200 It was growing out in its earlier days. 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.359 I mean, within six months of us starting the group, 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.240 we were on a trip to bocus El Toro, Patama, 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.600 so and that was not something that I had foresight 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.440 on or you know, saw when I created the community, 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:50.000 I had no idea that it was going to turn 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:54.119 into a business. I remember entrepreneur dot com did an 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.320 interview on me, and I can't remember if it was 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:57.320 in the title, but it's. 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.320 Definitely in the interview where she. 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:00.720 Told me, she's like, you know, you're kind of like 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:05.120 an accidental entrepreneur. And I was like, actually, yeah, you're 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.919 kind of right because I was looking for community. You know, 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.479 I was a three time expat. Right after I graduated college. 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.800 I had moved to Paris and was doing filmmaking with 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.040 the New York Film Academy, and Parish just kind of 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:17.040