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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noah. They called

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Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer

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Speaker 1: Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you.

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Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they

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Speaker 1: don't want you to know. And last week we took

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Speaker 1: our strange news and listener mail segments, we published some

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Speaker 1: classic episodes. We hope you enjoy them, and we are

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Speaker 1: back in the game. The news is going crazy. We

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Speaker 1: do want to touch on several stories that are still

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Speaker 1: developing and will probably end up being future episodes. Spoiler alert.

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Speaker 1: When you hear the news about Kazakhstan and Russia, ask

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Speaker 1: yourself where the world's uranium comes from? Of it comes

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Speaker 1: anonymous have have told me some stuff that's pretty eye opening.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get to that later. Yes, oh quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: Uh And for now, we're going to explore some stories

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Speaker 1: about the future of farts, the rise of the pig hearted,

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Speaker 1: as we record this, the current President Biden is speaking

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Speaker 1: Mattow did that with Gusto. She started off doing sort

428
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Speaker 1: of an only fans type situation where people subscribe and

429
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: sort of like a you know, Patreon kind of thing,

430
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: and she was getting a lot of requests from her patrons.

431
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: UM that she considers selling her farts. Yeah that did she? Like,

432
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: did she offer a lot of toots on the show

433
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: that she was on or something? Is that? Like it's

434
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: a festing Matt matt my lovely summer child. Some people

435
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: are into some weird uh, like smelling other people's farts

436
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: or in Asia in particular, at least that's where it

437
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: got it start. You may have heard of the trend

438
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: of being able to buy women's used underwear in vending machines.

439
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: As a previous iteration of that that was like underage girls,

440
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: and I believe then that's illegal. Yeah, well, Japan actually

441
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: just raised its age of consent, which was formally fourteen.

442
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but used underwear fetishization is not. I think

443
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: it would be dinging um dinging our Pacific neighbors to

444
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: say it was just stuck to that part of the world.

445
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: The vending machine thing was real, though from what I know,

446
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: it's just no longer around now. But you can go

447
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: anywhere on the internet if you are so inclined. If

448
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: that bags your badgers, you can go online and find

449
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: people who will gladly sell you purportedly used underwear, and

450
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: if they're consenting adults. You know. Loneliness is a crazy thing,

451
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: do you, well? You lonely or not lonely? Do you? Indeed?

452
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: And why the hell not make a little money. It's

453
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: a service people want. Why shouldn't they get it? And

454
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: why shouldn't you benefit for providing him? So so Matto decided,

455
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: okay um, did a little homework, potentially found some of

456
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: the stories that we're talking about, and maybe there's a

457
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: there's a there's a market for this, because as we know,

458
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: it's a market for just about everything. Um. So she

459
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: started uh farting in two little cute little mason jars

460
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: and uh and bottling them up. And at first she

461
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: was she just like, I want to do just like

462
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: cut like a couple dozen of these like a test,

463
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: see what happens. And uh, she did that, and they

464
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: sold like hot cakes, hot fart cakes. Um, presumably they're

465
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: not hot anymore once they reached the recipient, But um,

466
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: I think they come with instructions, right, I would hope, So,

467
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: I would hope, so yeah, them gently gently lest you

468
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: adulterate the pure assence that it's contained within. She took

469
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: it seriously right, like and why wouldn't she have taken

470
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: it seriously right because I mean she she the test

471
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: was a resounding success. You know, she did a handful

472
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: of these. They sold really really well. Um, she raised

473
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: the price. I think initially they were like fifty dollars

474
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: each something like that, and then it was like a

475
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: hundred dollars each. She ended up topping out at a

476
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: thousand dollars each for these jarred farts, and apparently reportedly

477
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: made around two hundred thousand dollars selling these until sadly,

478
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 1: her health began to to to take a turn as

479
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: a result of all this farting. Wait, because Ben mentioned

480
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: a second ago diet that she was taking really seriously,

481
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: she needed to produce only the finest uh farts um

482
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: and and do so. You know, it's somewhat in an

483
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: assembly line fashion. I mean, I don't think you or

484
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: I could just summon a fart out of nowhere right now.

485
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: And one person it was gross you a friend? Was

486
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: it like? Was it like the fartestree technique where you

487
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: sort of suck air in your butt and then yeah,

488
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: that's a chance, like the pets a law to I

489
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: would argue, I would argue, not a true fart. That

490
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: is a false fart. And this person, I don't know

491
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: about Matt's person, but this person wasn't boofing air and

492
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: then expelling it. They they at least part of the bitum.

493
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: Because I declined to watch the entire process unclothed, even

494
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: though she and I were friends, I was, there's a line,

495
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: and you know, our friendship is more important to me

496
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: than proving this fart thing. But it's a rare thing, right,

497
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: we might have a few people in the audience today

498
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: who can do that. But your point stands, I would argue,

499
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 1: because most people who need to produce a fart, if

500
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: they find themselves in that situation, UH, do have to

501
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: alter their diet because farts are a product of your

502
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: gut biome. Right, That's exactly right. And um, and Stephanie

503
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: Maddow knew this, uh. And I don't know if she

504
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: had like a fart consultant or something like that, but

505
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: she found a diet of like, you know that the

506
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: stuff you would imagine, I guess you only need to

507
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: consult and we all know it makes you fart, things

508
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: like beans and and lots of fibers, foods, you know,

509
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: things like that. And she was consuming so much of

510
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: this that one day she woke up, you know, I guess,

511
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: presumably to do her daily fart jarring, and she felt

512
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: an unpleasant sensation in her abdomen, Darry say, stinging, kind

513
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: of like sharp shooting pain. Um. And you know, being

514
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: someone who's a bit of a health nut and very

515
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: aware of her her body, Um, she went to the

516
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: er and the doctor. She didn't immediately cop to the

517
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: jarring of the farts, but she did speak to the

518
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: diet and the doctor said, hey, this is bad, this

519
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: is not good for you. I don't know if it's

520
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: something that was particular to her, but it was, I mean,

521
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: that was causing her problems. So she had to change

522
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: her business model. And that's what she changed. Do you

523
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: do you think that's real or that's a story to

524
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: to make the next move make more sense. I don't know, man,

525
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: She's only well, let's let's let's go back to that

526
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: in a second. Map Okay, okay, a second. Um. You

527
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: know where I'm going with this. Based on the preamble

528
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: of this story. Um, she decided to make the leap

529
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: into n f t S non fungible tokens. Um. And again,

530
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: they can be many things, but they often are kind

531
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: of goofy little cartoons that are you know, unique that

532
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: if you do a line of them, each one can

533
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: only be owned once. Um. And that's exactly what she did.

534
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: And they these little cartoons are little jars with stoppers

535
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: in them of varying types. Um. Looking at some right,

536
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: you can actually go for yourself and check it out

537
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: for yourself if you want to get the website is

538
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if anybody that wants to. It's just

539
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: totally s f it's it's sf w um it is

540
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: fart jars n ft dot com. No, it's fart jar

541
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: sniffed dot com. Yeah, that's I'm sure that was not

542
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: lost on I mean, that's pretty pretty brilliant domain. I'm

543
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: surprised nobody had gotten that one already, and if they did,

544
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: they probably collected a pretty penny for it. But yeah,

545
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: fart all right, Oh by fart jar sniffed dot com

546
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: exists and you can go there right now. Their tagline

547
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: is imagine the smell, because that's the best you're gonna do,

548
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: because it's it's like, imagine main I brought it back

549
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: so um. By going to this website, you can take

550
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: a look browse their wares. There's one with like a

551
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: little top hat. There's one where the stopper is a

552
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: butt itself with a little poot air stream coming out,

553
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: and some of those kind of goofy emoji glasses. Uhs.

554
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: One this guy looks crazy. He's got like a twitching

555
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: eye and there's a plunger on his head. Uh. This

556
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: dude here looks like he's kind of spooky. He's kind

557
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: of doing these ghost fingers, and there's like kind of

558
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: weird like mad scientist chemical fumes coming out of the

559
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: top that one doesn't look like as a stopper at all,

560
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: one with a doughnut. Um. The list goes on, and

561
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: you know it benefits the creator or the person can

562
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: being paid for these to make as many as possible. Uh.

563
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: They go for about a hundred fifty bucks in the

564
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: form of point point oh five ethereum um, because that

565
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: is what you paid for n f T s with

566
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: I think if they're exclusively on the ethereum um chain. So, Matt,

567
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: to answer your previous querry about the narrative, whether it

568
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: was true or not, I can't say for sure, but

569
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: I would say that she was getting a thousand bucks

570
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: a fart before and now she's only getting a hundred

571
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: and fifty bucks for these fake ones. Granted, you could

572
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: scale these and you could do more of these, and

573
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: but you might be onto something, Matt, because she is

574
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: still she hasn't completely stopped for farting in jars. If

575
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: you buy enough of these, there's actually, uh, there's like

576
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: some some benefits, um. She You can actually get a

577
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: real jarred fart if you collect a certain number of these.

578
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: It's almost like getting like punch cards and you're like,

579
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: you know whatever, choose your chain, restaurant location or like

580
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: weed shops exactly. And a big thing in cryptocurrency and

581
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: in different you know, cryptocurrencies and different n f t

582
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: s is what is the use case? That is a

583
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: question that's always asked, like is a is a particular

584
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: cryptocurrency viable? The question that's asked is what is the

585
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: use case? Is it good for? Like smart contracts? Is

586
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: it good for certain types of transactions. There's like different

587
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: ones that are built on different technology or coding or

588
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: whatever that are good for different things, And sometimes whether

589
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: one does better or another can depend or if it

590
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: has more like long term viability depends on the use case.

591
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: So this is a great example of someone kind of

592
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: understanding that uh and and just basically bullshitting their way

593
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: through it. Pun absolutely intended, so utility on the website.

594
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: According to fart jar sniff dot com, uh fart jar

595
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: n f t s have four use cases that make

596
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: owning them a blast. Okay. One access to steph for

597
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: pleasure or business. Each toe can hold her will be

598
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: given access to a private discord channel with steph Some

599
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: of you may want to be able to communicate with

600
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: her in an intimate setting, whilst others may have questions

601
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: about becoming a fart entrepreneur yourself. Uh. And then there

602
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: are other you know, level zoom meetings. The collector with

603
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: the most fart JR n f T s week one

604
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: after launch, we'll have the opportunity to spend thirty minutes

605
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: on a zoom with Stephanie. Um. And then it goes

606
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: on to second and third most fart jars in the

607
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: time on the zoom diminishes. Then this one I kind

608
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: of like um mentor program. Become a girl boss with

609
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: access to a private group with staff where you can

610
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: be mentored on how to build a brand, become a

611
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: content creator, and become a fart entrepreneur. Uh. And then

612
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: for on top of the fart tastic use cases above,

613
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: the artwork can be used as a profile picture so

614
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: that you can proudly display your conclusion in the most

615
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: explosive good Lord, the fart puns never stopped community in

616
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: the n f T space. Um. Again, this is no shame,

617
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: this is clever. If she makes money on this, more

618
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: power to are absolutely, I just think it just shows

619
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: how stupid and out of control this n f T

620
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: space has gotten. Um And there's a really great article

621
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: on bitcoin dot com that has some quotes for Stephanie

622
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: that I think are maybe overstating the importance of this,

623
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: the cultural value. I get where she's going, where she's

624
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: coming from, but it almost like makes it sound like satire,

625
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 1: and I think it diminishes what she's actually trying to say,

626
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: which is this fart jars are all about taking ownership

627
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: of your body, your inner worth, with an added with

628
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: of creative genius. Making a statement and an impact is

629
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: not about pushing a fart. It's about pushing yourself to

630
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: do anything you set your mind to. Umm, well, I've

631
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: got a lot of Mason jars around the house, so yeah,

632
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: this is yeah. I don't know what to say. No,

633
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: thank you for bringing this to our attention. You're so welcome, guys.

634
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just you know, I just think this

635
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: is just such an interesting extreme you know, And I

636
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: mean it'll probably get more extreme than this, because you

637
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: can you can mint anything as an n f T

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00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: as long as it exists in digital form um. Maybe

639
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Speaker 1: maybe we're looking at a future Internet where where smells

640
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Speaker 1: can be transmitted digitally. There's I don't know if you

641
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Speaker 1: saw the news. Yes, I don't know, story for another day,

642
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Speaker 1: I think, Okay, fair enough, that's exactly what I thought. Wow, well,

643
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Speaker 1: not much else to say. I guess, um, I don't know,

644
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Speaker 1: but I've interested in particular, like your your thoughts in

645
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Speaker 1: the dystopian nous of this or if you see it

646
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: that way, like do you do you feel me on

647
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: the whole? Like you know, the absurdity of the art

648
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: market and how you know, like I mean, banana taped

649
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Speaker 1: to a wall sold for like a gazillion dollars or

650
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Speaker 1: whatever it like art art bassil and like is this

651
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: just kind of like a digital extension of that? And

652
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: and do you see it in the same satirical light

653
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing in or do you am I missing something?

654
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: Or do you see it differently? No? I agree emberor

655
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: has no clothes and people, Uh, if people are consenting adults.

656
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: I believe people should be able to do what they

657
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: want so they're not harming other people. Yeah, now that's true.

658
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: I just want to add to a lot of this stuff.

659
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: Is is you know, devoted to people or geared towards

660
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Speaker 1: people that have made a lot of money in the

661
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: crypto space, but it's not it's not the easiest thing

662
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: in the world to convert your cryptocurrency back into like,

663
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, fiat currency. I mean it is, it's not

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Speaker 1: not easy, but it takes some doing, right. So, a

665
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: lot of people that have like ten bitcoin or whatever,

666
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Speaker 1: which is like, you know, a couple hundreds several hundred

667
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars funds, Like I think a bitcoin, it's like

668
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Speaker 1: it's it's differ a little b right now. I think

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Speaker 1: it's around dollars something like that. Um, they're looking at

670
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Speaker 1: everything not in fiat like we you're not looking at

671
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Speaker 1: your you know, your crypto wallet necessarily and how much

672
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: cash it's worth all the time. You're looking at it

673
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Speaker 1: in a different scale. So spending point oh five ethereum

674
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Speaker 1: on a cartoon of a fart jar might be just

675
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Speaker 1: the the um um novelty that someone would just totally

676
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Speaker 1: click instantly without giving a much thought. But then if

677
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: you think about it in the real world of like

678
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Speaker 1: would you drop a hundred and fifty dollars out of

679
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Speaker 1: your bank account into a piece of digital art unless

680
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Speaker 1: it was just super super cool and like you could

681
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: like display it in some interesting way, probably not so

682
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Speaker 1: much so I think this is like preying on people

683
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Speaker 1: that are listless and board on the internet and have

684
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Speaker 1: like all this kind of cryptocurrency to play with. But

685
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: then again, this is also kind of playing toward these

686
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: people that have very specific fetishes, and very specific fetish

687
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: is toward a particular talent in particular individual. So more

688
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: power to them. But also it's been weird. So with that,

689
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Speaker 1: it's another quick break and I'll be back with more

690
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Speaker 1: strange news. We have returned for another piece of strange news.

691
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Speaker 1: Wanted to end on this one because it is uh,

692
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Speaker 1: potentially life changing for a lot of people. It's gross,

693
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Speaker 1: it's philosophically fraught, i would say, and it's going to

694
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: take us to many, many strange places. What I'd like

695
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Speaker 1: to do is set up I'd like to set up

696
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Speaker 1: some facts here and then I'd like for us to

697
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of round table this and the fellow

698
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Speaker 1: conspiracy realist please write in about this, because we're gonna

699
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Speaker 1: ask some questions that have haunted people for a long time.

700
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Speaker 1: But before we get to those questions, let's start with

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Speaker 1: some statistics. If you have ever known someone or been

702
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Speaker 1: related to someone who has had to have an organ transplant,

703
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: you know that it is a very dangerous process. Even

704
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Speaker 1: when everything goes well, you have to find a donor.

705
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: The organ, whatever it may be, has to be transported viably.

706
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Speaker 1: There are a lot of rules and laws about the

707
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Speaker 1: organ market. CR earlier episode and video series on the

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Speaker 1: Red Market for our YouTube channel. Last year, in the US,

709
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Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty four US residents legally received a

710
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Speaker 1: transplanted organ. More than half of those are kidneys, and

711
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: that comes from the United Network for Organ Sharing. There

712
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Speaker 1: is a huge shortage of organs and a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: You know, the process usually goes unless you're rich or

714
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Speaker 1: rich and crooked. You have to get on a waitingly

715
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Speaker 1: for organs. And if you're on that waiting list, whatever

716
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Speaker 1: the organ is about, you're also on a ticking clock.

717
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Speaker 1: About a dozen people on those lists for any organ

718
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: die every single day, just waiting. And the demand has

719
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Speaker 1: historically outpaced the supply because for now, the world's not

720
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Speaker 1: quite dystopian enough for people to be openly killed for

721
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Speaker 1: their organs. Does it happen in some parts of the world, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kaida and do uh. Some people who are very disadvantaged

723
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Speaker 1: and very poor parts of the world. Did they get

724
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Speaker 1: pressured into selling their organs for peanuts? Yes, absolutely, those

725
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: conspiracies are genuine, But there may be hope. What if

726
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: you went to a doctor and you needed a heart

727
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Speaker 1: transplant and the doctor said, Okay, you're not gonna you know,

728
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Speaker 1: you don't meet the requirements for a human heart, but

729
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: maybe we can do something else, maybe switch it up

730
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Maybe we can give you a heart

731
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Speaker 1: from an animal. And your doctor in this case will one.

732
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Speaker 1: Dr Griffith tells you. Let me be straight with you.

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Speaker 1: It's never been done this way before, but I think

734
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Speaker 1: we can do it. What would you say? Just first off,

735
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Speaker 1: what would you say without knowing the animal? Would you

736
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Speaker 1: guys do? But if you didn't know the animal, what

737
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Speaker 1: would you say for me? It depends on how dire

738
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Speaker 1: the situation is, you know, if it's your for me,

739
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: if it was my last ditch effort at possibly surviving, yes,

740
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Speaker 1: I make that decision. Um if not, I don't know.

741
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Speaker 1: It feels like you you'd wait if there was like

742
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Speaker 1: any light, you know, like you, I might get a

743
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Speaker 1: oregan transplant maybe and I might live to get there.

744
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: Probably wouldn't do it? Are we talking about philosophically, are

745
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: we talking about like this is super super experimental or

746
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: does this definitely work? You might die, You will definitely

747
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: if you don't get a new ticker, but you might

748
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: die on the operating table much more likely than if

749
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Speaker 1: you got a proper transplant. Uh. That's the thing. It's

750
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Speaker 1: sort of on the map of medical procedures were we're

751
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Speaker 1: in the edge of the paper where it says here

752
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: be serpents. People weren't quite sure. I'm just wondering if

753
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: like some people might have an issue with getting like

754
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Speaker 1: a non human or get in their body, if they

755
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: hilosophically have some I wouldn't care if I was pretty

756
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: sure it was gonna work or it had a better

757
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: chance of working than I had of living. And the

758
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: other eight transplanters weren't coming absolutely. But this is literally

759
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: a first right, Uh, not quite. We're gonna get into it.

760
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: So the first of its kind. This is like the

761
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: first um kind of like how the Model T is

762
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: not the first car, but it's the car most people

763
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: associate with the dawn of the automobile. This is an

764
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: in that similar situation. This Dr Griffith. Dr Bartley Griffith

765
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: literally said that to one David Bennett, Sr. Of Maryland,

766
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Speaker 1: and the animal in question donating a heart was a pig,

767
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Speaker 1: So luckily, uh, Mr Bennett did not have philosophical or

768
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Speaker 1: religious objections, you know, like, um, if you are in

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Speaker 1: if you are from a belief system that precludes or

770
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Speaker 1: prohibits the consumption of pork or the consumption of animal

771
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: products in general, does that violate those, uh, those spiritual

772
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: constraints for you to have the heart of a pig

773
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Speaker 1: beating in your chest. This guy had a life threatening

774
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Speaker 1: heart disease and in an eight our operation just a

775
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: few days ago, he received a heart from a pig,

776
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: and he is alive. The world's eyes are upon him

777
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: to see how this works. People with medical experience in

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Speaker 1: the crowd, or people who have lived in the world

779
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Speaker 1: of origin transplants in the crowd, you're already rightly throwing

780
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Speaker 1: up your hand and saying, well, what about the body's

781
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: rejection rate? What about the immune response? Because the body

782
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: doesn't like foreign objects, impersonating body stuff, just just the

783
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: same way that cops don't like people who aren't cops,

784
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: dressing up a cops and arresting people. Right, it makes

785
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 1: sense and even though that's a not a perfect analogy.

786
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Speaker 1: This was not your garden variety pig. This was, as

787
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Speaker 1: they say, uh, Charlotte's web some pig. This was a

788
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: pig genetically altered by a company in Virginia called Revivicore.

789
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Speaker 1: The pig had genetic modifications and importantly, four of its

790
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: genes were knocked out or inactivated, and one of these

791
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: was a gene that encodes a molecule that causes that

792
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: aggressive rejection response from humans receiving these organs. It makes it,

793
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Speaker 1: you could argue, philosophically, a bit more human. Please do

794
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: check out a fantastic piece of journalism by Ronnie Karen

795
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Speaker 1: Rabin in a first man receives a heart from a

796
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: genetically altered pig. He is alive. This was in the

797
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: New York Times, so it's not you know, weekly World

798
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Speaker 1: News or something. And if he if he survives, and

799
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Speaker 1: if he survives over a long period of time, this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a medical breakthrough for potentially hundreds of thousands,

801
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: if not millions of people. But it's also going to

802
00:48:53,600 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: put humanity in deep philosophical water. We will be transforming

803
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: people into chimera. Chimera referring to the ancient myth of

804
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: a of an organism that is an amalgamation of different

805
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: animals and chimera. Human chimera technically kind of exists already.

806
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Speaker 1: There's also worked to your question, Matt, there are previous

807
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Speaker 1: cases where people have received replacement heart valves from pigs,

808
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: but never the never the whole thing, you know what

809
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Never the whole thing. This also comes on

810
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: the tail of different some real mad science. I usually

811
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: dunk on people for that fatuous idea of the greater good.

812
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: Greater good is a convenient rationalization for a lot of

813
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: horrible things. But there had been earlier tests where they

814
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: took people who were brain dead and put the medically

815
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Speaker 1: alive but on ventilators, and they put these hearts inside

816
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: them to make sure they work for going onto someone

817
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: who you know would have brain activity. So there has

818
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: been a lot of work leading up to this, but

819
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: there and there's a lot of work to go. But

820
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Speaker 1: this is a game changer. Who new pigs would be

821
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Speaker 1: so useful? Also, it must be dangerous to be a pig.

822
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: Now people are using you to figure out how to

823
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: breathe through their butts. They're gonna grow our poor sign friends,

824
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Speaker 1: as as organ farms potentially, And now the question becomes like,

825
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Speaker 1: to me, some of the philosophical quandaries, are is it

826
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Speaker 1: right to do this? Many many people would say yes, absolutely, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the life of a pig is not worth the life

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Speaker 1: of a human. And already pigs are killed unmasked every

829
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Speaker 1: day to provide pork chops and bacon and so on.

830
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Speaker 1: But there's also a ship of thesis question, right, the

831
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Speaker 1: old the old thought experiment of the ship of thesis

832
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Speaker 1: ask if you take a ship over time, you replace

833
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: it piece by piece by piece until you have ultimately

834
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: replaced everything, every material on that ship, is it still

835
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Speaker 1: the same ship? So I'm wondering if there's a world

836
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Speaker 1: where people's organs get replaced so often that they are

837
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: percentage wise less human, you know what I mean? Where

838
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: where do their rights go in? Yeah, that's a weird one, man.

839
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine that you could. I imagine you could

840
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Speaker 1: overwhelm the human body and you know it's been what

841
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: what is what did you say? Been three days or

842
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: something that the guy has lived or four days or

843
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: something that he's lived thus far with a pig heart

844
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Speaker 1: inside of him. You know, one of the things that

845
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: we know from these kinds of transplants is that it

846
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily something that's noticed immediately that you know, the

847
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: body rejects something else that's inside of it. It could

848
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Speaker 1: take a month, It could take however, you know, twenty

849
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Speaker 1: five days or something um for for him and the

850
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Speaker 1: you know, the medical professionals figure out that his body's

851
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Speaker 1: rejecting it. Uh. I think we're gonna really like this

852
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Speaker 1: is this is really good? Right, that this is happening.

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Speaker 1: I don't until we wait this one procedure out, I

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00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: don't think we can know and if other organs are

855
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: going to get replaced, then I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about the the way that this doctor Griffith figured out

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Speaker 1: that he could transplant a pig heart, even genetically modified

858
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Speaker 1: into a human, Like what how did he figure that out?

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of very smart people who have

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Speaker 1: been working in this field, and uh, Dr Griffith had

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Speaker 1: some other folks working with him like Dr Mohammed Mohoieden

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Speaker 1: pardon my if I'm mispronouncing there, who is a professor

863
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: surgery at the University of Maryland School of Medicine. And

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00:52:54,840 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: they established what they called the Cardiac Zeno transplantation program

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Speaker 1: UM in which they successfully implanted pig hearts into baboons

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Speaker 1: about fifty baboons over a series of five years. So

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Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive. That's ten baboons a year getting a

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Speaker 1: pig heart UM, and that's really where they kind of

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00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: cut their teeth. Is there a like a inherent similarity

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00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: between the pig heart and the baboon heart. There are

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00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: like it's it's close enough that you could try to

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00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: jury rick this system, but the obviously like a this

873
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: is not ideal for the baboon goes without saying it's

874
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: not super great for the pig because they're not trading

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00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: hearts UM. Then earlier someone had tried to in the

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00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: field of zeno transplantation, someone had attempted to put a

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00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 1: baboon heart inside of a human and it it didn't

878
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: work out because of that tendency of the human body

879
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: to reject these words of graphs. You know, a lot

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00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: of this depends on a new experimental drug made by

881
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: an outfit called Kinikusa Pharmaceuticals. This suppressed the immune system,

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00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: it prevented rejection. They also used a new uh new

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00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: mechanical device to keep the pig's heart preserved until surgery.

884
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: And now, you know, pig hearted sounds like an insult,

885
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: but it may in the future just be a condition

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00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: that people have. And I'm wondering, I'm wondering how close

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00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: we get to creating increasingly human like pigs, right, because

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00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: the what one of the best ways, outside of drugs,

889
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: one of the best ways to lower the rate of

890
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: rejection is to continue genetically altering the pigs, you know

891
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, how close to the line do

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00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: we want to get? How close should we get? Here's

893
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: a kind of a sci fi question, I guess to

894
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: maybe introduced this, we talked a lot about genetically modifying pigs,

895
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: and in the past we've also talked a lot about

896
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: genetically modifying humans. Um, and the societal kind of breakdown

897
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,479
Speaker 1: that that would encompass, like in terms of, like only

898
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: the wealthy can afford to genetically modify themselves or their

899
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: offspring in such a way as to prevent you know,

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00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: illness and things like that. Um, I wonder if there's

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00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 1: a way to genetically modify humans that would make them

902
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: more susceptible to accepting say like lab grown you know,

903
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: organ replacements and things like that. Yeah, it's a good question,

904
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: and it's not as sci fi as it might sound

905
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: at first Blush. That world is on the horizon, and

906
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: I would love to spend a future episode on the precipice,

907
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: the bleeding edge or the bleeding scalpel edge of oregan transplantation,

908
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: because it is saving lives, but it's also forcing humanity

909
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: to confront questions that it just has treated as academic

910
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: up to this point. We are going to wrap the

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00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: show up, but I am gonna end on something really cool.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to give a shout out to a show

913
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: that I dearly love called Radio Lab. It's up there

914
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: with Hidden Brain in my opinion, and they point out

915
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: or they have an excellent episode on a tiny sugar

916
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: molecule called Alpha gal which is, despite the name, not

917
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: a cool superhero from The Boys comic books. Instead, it

918
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: is this sugar molecule that the genetically altered pigs don't create,

919
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: and this is one of the factors that allows these

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00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: pigs organs to be accepted by human bodies. But coincidentally,

921
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: how weird is this alpha This Alpha stuff is the

922
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: same thing you become allergic to after you get some

923
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: certain tick bites. So one of big question. I want

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00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: to end this way. I don't know if you should

925
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: answer this, but end this way. Is it okay to

926
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: eat the pigs after the organ transplant? If you got

927
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: the pigs heart, would you eat the big I think

928
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Speaker 1: it's what what they would have wanted. We'll have to

929
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Speaker 1: modify them to be well. I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to modify them to communicate more efficiently.

931
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Speaker 1: It's really just a matter of fixing the vocal cords.

932
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: I think UM in some brain centers, because they do

933
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: have the intelligence of um, you know what a three

934
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: year old? I think maybe higher. Well, let us know,

935
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: let us know, uh how human is too human? And

936
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 1: what does human mean in the future. We can't wait

937
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,800
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938
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939
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: to hear your take on the mysterious illness in New Brunswick.

940
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Speaker 1: And I would really love to hear some some approaches

941
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: to these philosophical questions. You know your fellow listeners would

942
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,480
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943
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,760
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944
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: find us on the Internet. It's a little song era

945
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: um at the handle of Conspiracy Stuff at YouTube, Facebook,

946
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: where we have the Facebook group. Here's where it gets crazy.

947
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,840
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948
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,440
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949
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: got some pretty exciting news today on the social media front,

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Speaker 1: so stay tuned for more on that soon. Hey, and

951
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: if you're like me and not a social media person,

952
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: instead go to the phone lines when you call. Please

953
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: don't fart. I mean, I guess you can. I would,

954
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: just you know you're not gonna get paid for it,

955
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: so jarred up? Instead? What are you saying people should

956
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: only do things if they get paid for it? Matt

957
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's gotta fart for the joy to come on?

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