1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: That's where I sell out in games. So when any 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: time we put the pass on, any time we're hit, 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, it's a different mindset. Like once 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: you see a play where I just burst out or 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: just use my athleticism, just make a crazy play, people like, oh, 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: we got that, it's already there. You know, it's just 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: having't you know, came out yet. We were definitely trying 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: to be the number one defense in the league. You know. 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: That's that's ultimately, go Welcome into the lounge. It's the 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: in person lounge today. We're back. We're back. Get the cocktails. 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: What do you want? Video? What do you want? You 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: might make me up an old Fashioned for me? Old fashioned? 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: I'll take one. That'd be nice. What time is it 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: for the old Fashion? We're almost to noon. It's more 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: like you get to noon, you could have an old 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Fashioned with lunch. It's more of a most territory right now. Yeah, 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: I don't like most of though. I'm not a big 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: fan of the play mayors. I'm not a big fan 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: of those either. Yeah. Yeah, well I guess I guess 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: we'll pass this side. We'll just stick to water anyway. Uh. 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: Happy to be back in person. Uh, and a lot 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: to take away from the first week in a couple 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: of days of training camp. We're gonna get into that 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: on the second half of the podcast, but first we 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: have a big, a big interview with a big linebacker, 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: ma Leek Harrison thrilled to have Lee Harrison here and 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: Malik since we were kind of out of the building 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: couldn't be in person last year. You being in your 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: second year, this is my first time actually being with you. Man, 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: you're a large man. Dude, You're big. Like on the field, 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: you look big with that in person, you are big. 32 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't even realize how big on you until I 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: look at myself. So yeah, just how's how's your second 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: training camp going? Like? Where do you feel like you've 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: made your biggest strides since you were a kie year? Um, 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm definitely more confidence into the defense. You know, last 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: year just coming from straight from what is it uh 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: zoom o t s, you know, trying to learn it 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: on the zoom and to coming in and you know, 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: really working it. It really made me, you know, excel 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: into you know, really learning the plays and learning the 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: techniques and you know, just learning what everybody else do. Yeah, 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: how tired of zoom? Did you get Oh man, I 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: was tired of it from like what does it mean? 45 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: Sitting in the house actually from like seven till five 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: and just be like, oh man, now I don't want 47 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: to go nowhere. So when Rob Ryan talked earlier in 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: the week, you talked about how fire up peoples to 49 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: see you in pads for the first time. Talk to 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: me about when you take the field yesterday and you 51 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: guys are in pads, oh yesterday. You know we don't 52 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: have passed since the last time we play. You know 53 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: that that's one of Mike, That's where I excel out 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: in the games. So when any time we put the 55 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: pass on, any time we're hit, and I'm just like, 56 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: it's a different mindset and you know, I just gotta 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: go hard. I'm you know, I'm a physical person. So 58 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: even I'm a love with the pass. Come on, what 59 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: do you think Robs so far? I mean, when I 60 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: watch you guys in your linebacker drills, He's always talking 61 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: often getting laughs out of you guys, Like there just 62 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: seems to be great energy in your guys group. Yeah, definitely, 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: great energy. You know, he's a great coach. You know, 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: he you know he you know, he coached with commentary 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: at the same time, colorful commentaries like stand up comedies. Definitely, 66 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: like you never know with him, you know, it would 67 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: be at the means and then just out of nowhere, 68 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: he just I got a story. I also got to 69 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: be careful about, you know, what you're filming because a 70 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: lot of that can't go Uh never want to go 71 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: live if robs around, you do not know what's gonna 72 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: go through his u come out of his mouth. You 73 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: need the button ready. It's like the team huddle huddle 74 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: before he gave you like all right, I'm just gonna 75 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: go a mute for this one. Especially when songs was 76 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: doing it. You never want to have audio rolling on that. So, 77 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: so did you pop anybody yesterday? First day of patched? 78 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: To get anybody? You know? Most we you know, first 79 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: period always inside, so you know, first play, I gotta 80 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: hit somebody, you know, no matter what, like you know 81 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: in the game, like I don't care if I got 82 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: to play wrong or not, I have to hit someone. 83 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: You don't get the jitters out of me? Who was 84 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: Who was the unlucky fellow? To be honest, I don't know. 85 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: Some guys, somebody someone now do you take it easy 86 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: on j K. Dobbins at all? You know, former teammate years, 87 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: you know, not really can't. You can't you know once 88 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: you know in style, you rol you can't really, but 89 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: you know towards like you know, middle practice, you know, 90 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: we both got to understand it. You know, like we 91 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: both still you know, trying to get better and you know, 92 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: trying to take care of each other. Yeah, for sure. 93 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of the perception, uh 94 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: from fans is that you know, you're like that, like 95 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: you talk about that physical downhill thumper, right and for 96 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: you this year to kind of have a bigger role, 97 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: it's kind of expanding your game and the coverage and 98 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Is that correct? Is that what you're 99 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: kind of really holding in on. Yeah, definitely. You know 100 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: last year, my my main role was you know, just 101 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: stopping the run. So you know last year that was 102 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: last year. But now this year I'm trying to you know, 103 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: expand it and then you know, get get down to 104 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: like the third downs and you know, more into the coverage. 105 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: Would you think how did you look back at your 106 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: rookie season. Yeah, you had some time to kind of 107 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: end the season decompress and just sort of assess how 108 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: it went. Um Like times that I was in I 109 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: felt like, you know, excel and you know, did what 110 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: I was supposed to do when I was out there. 111 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: The cast coverage part is, I mean that's tough for everybody. 112 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know they talked about, you know, Patrick 113 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: coming in and adapting to NFL route concepts. That is 114 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: a big step. What was it for you? Were you like, 115 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: holy cow, this is kind of a whole another world. No, 116 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: it definitely was. You know, just understanding that, you know, 117 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: just the coverage and you know, just different rules is 118 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: to each you know, a little call that that I 119 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: had to really just sit down and really just think about, 120 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: like all right, I gotta think about it, Like Rob 121 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: might say it some way, but I have to you know, 122 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: saying that like my way that I will understand. I 123 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: was still saying his way, but in my head, I'll 124 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: say like, all right, it's just like this, and then 125 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: you know that's how then just watching film, just watching 126 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: the concepts, or you know, just looking at the paper 127 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: that you know they have all the concepts on it. 128 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: So a lot of guys have talked about how you 129 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: just feel like the jump from your one of year two. 130 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: Everyone kind of says that is significant, but that it's 131 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: even maybe more so this year considering you have in 132 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: person O T A S. You're gonna have a preseason 133 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: all that. Like, can you tell a difference because of 134 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: those things? Yeah, definitely, Like last year, I'm like, oh sweet, 135 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna come here until the training camp. But now, 136 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: like when we had O T A S. I was 137 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: just like, I wish I would have had that last year. 138 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: I was like, if I would have had that last year, 139 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: I would have been probably where I'm at right now, 140 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: just more comfortable, you know, because we you know, was 141 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: it for like two three weeks. You know, we out 142 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: there running all the plays. We put the whole playbook 143 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: and in two weeks and so it was like forcing 144 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: you to learn it. And I felt like last year, 145 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: if I had that have been way better awesome. So 146 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: you feel like like, basically you can go into this season. 147 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that, like and Patrick actually talked about this week. 148 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: Talked to him, but you know, he's basically said it 149 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: took him a few games to just kind of feel 150 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: that adjustment last year. Like, so you basically feel like 151 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: obviously playing your rookie season and then having all the 152 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: time in the off season you can hit the ground 153 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: running week one. Oh yeah, definitely that's cool. How much 154 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: does L. J. Fort really help you? You know, having 155 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: that veteran and he is kind of known for his 156 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: past coverage abilities. How much does he helped you? Oh? 157 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: He helped a lot. You know, just like sometimes I'll 158 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: just sit there and just be like call him or 159 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: something and be like, yo, like how do you see it? 160 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: Or like we got would be on the field and 161 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: I'll just ask him, like all right, what I do wrong? 162 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: You're just just asking questions and him just in a 163 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: vet and you know, just telling me things like hey, 164 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: you know this split. You know, they either gonna run 165 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: this or that or they bring somebody over they're gonna 166 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: run this way. So he, you know, helped. I feel like, 167 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, the tools are certainly there for you to 168 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: be really gonna I mean, you're a faster You've like 169 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: we talked about how big you are, but like your 170 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: speed and athleticism, I think people kind of sleep on 171 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know what I mean? Is that 172 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: the perception? Yeah, yeah, definitely, you know, because everybody just 173 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: think I'm just you know, downhill in between the lines. 174 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: Just damn. Like once you see a play where I 175 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: just you know, burst out or just use my athleticism, 176 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: just make a crazy play, people like, oh, he got that, 177 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: it's already there. You know, it's just haven't you know 178 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: came out yet? Well you had to pick on Saturday, right, 179 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: and so that was kind of showing some of that, 180 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: didn't you have? You were close to one. I feel 181 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: like last season it was actually the first game, it 182 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: was like your first game. I forgot what coverage he 183 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: was one. I just remember what is it? O'Dell come 184 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: out and I had I forgot what it was. But hey, 185 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: I would have had that. Oh man, that would have 186 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: been That would have been the best play in my 187 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: career so far. How how much do you and and 188 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: p Q talk about being those guys, you know, like 189 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: you and him being the tandem together in the middle, 190 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, And it's no shade to LJ or any 191 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: of the you know, Chris, any of those guys, but 192 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: like you know, they drafted you third round, him first 193 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: round to kind of be those dudes. Do you talk 194 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, we were always talking about every day, 195 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, all season. We was just talking about it, like, 196 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, we gotta you know, make that jump this year, 197 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: Like you know they want us to beat them two 198 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: guys or so we you know, we just gotta show 199 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: them and you know, try to do it like our 200 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: our go this year is probably the both of us 201 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: to be like, oh pro for that'd be sick. That'd 202 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: be nice, that'd be like who was it the forty niners? 203 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: Like duo inside linebacker duo? It was Patrick Willis and 204 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: h and the kid the other guy was he from 205 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: Wasn't he from Penn State? Remember? Yeah, but I'm trying 206 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: to blank on who the other one was next to Patrick. 207 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: We'll get the editing well, um, but going back to 208 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: your athleticism, Yeah, it was. It was the moment. It 209 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: was going back to your athleticism. How many sports do 210 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: you play in high school? Uh? Brand, track, basketball, and football? Okay, 211 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: and you were a quarterback and football play I played everything. 212 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: I played everything, you know. I was a pumpy turn 213 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: to kick return as a quarterback. He never came off 214 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 1: the field, never, not really until I was tied. So 215 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: describe your game as a quarterback, quarterback, just make plays. 216 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: I was a playbaker Okay, running heavy or heavy, it 217 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: was more yep, he's pulling on the bar short passes. 218 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: So last year when we're in Cleveland and Lamar's in 219 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: the locker room and Willie Trace gets hurt, are you saying, hey, coach, 220 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: like I gave that up? I went like I never 221 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: actually I never knew. Like the way that I had 222 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: got to be a quarterback was crazy. Actually. So I 223 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: came in freshman, uh playing d N and tight end. Um, 224 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: so that was for varsity and then JV I was 225 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: playing tight end and then like our quarterback. He just 226 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: but you were playing on varsity and j V at 227 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: the same time. Never comes out the year I didn't start. 228 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: I didn't start playing quarterback to my sophomore year. My 229 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: freshman year, like you know, I was, I was like 230 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: second third string d N and you know, gotch but JV, 231 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: you know, he just couldn't give me the ball like 232 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: I was just like I was getting mad, and just 233 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: one day I was just like, hey, coach, and let 234 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: me play quarterback. He said, for real, like seriously, like yeah, 235 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm like all right, I don't never never played quarterback 236 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: ever until that day. And then he was like, all right, 237 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: do this. I did it. He said, alright, bet And 238 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: then like that next year, I saw my year out 239 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: like I wasn't playing on trying to play quarterback on varsity. Man. 240 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: You know, everybody was just like yo, you quarterback. I'm 241 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: like what you mean, and I'm the quarterback like I 242 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: was coming out here and played d then see your 243 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: tight ends something even, and then it was like, now 244 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: you're the quarterback. I said, oh my, that is funny, 245 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: that's cool. Did you when when you were getting recruited, 246 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: was it specifically as a linebacker or was there any 247 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: quarterback talk? It was no quarterback. It was it was 248 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: either tight air receiver or you know, linebacker. Okay, and 249 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: how did you decide, like once you got to high 250 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: state or during that process linebackers where you wanted to be. Well, 251 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: Coach Fickle he always had an eye on me, Like 252 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: Coach Fickle was the one that was recruiting me out 253 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: of home state. So since my sophomore year, Coach Fick 254 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: was like, you know, you'll be a great linebacker this 255 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: and that. You know, at the time, Darren Lead did 256 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: the same thing. He was playing quarterback and then once 257 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: he told hig State play linebacker. So you know, I 258 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: already had like back in my head, I'm like, all right, 259 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a linebacker like something like here. And 260 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: the moment I knew I was because when I first 261 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: went to the locker room I saw my number. I said, yep, 262 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: line back of it is cool. That's cool. And you 263 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: were a basketball star to right, did you have any 264 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: interest you know, basketball scholarships? Like during the recruit process, 265 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: I did. Most of most of my offers was coming 266 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: from the MAX schools, so they was off from me 267 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: for both actually interesting and and was it an easy 268 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: decision to get football or like on the back of 269 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, uh, like I'm six three playing 270 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: the four or five. I'm like in the league that 271 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: is a point guard. I'm like, I'm not. I'm not 272 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: even gonna try. And I'm just go with you see 273 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: some of those guaranteed contracts in the NBA that you're like, 274 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I didn't really start playing basketball to 275 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: eighth grade really, so I didn't. I started late, And 276 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I wish I would have started when 277 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: I was Do you know contracts when you're talking about 278 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: kind of like was it enticing the idea of playing 279 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: both sports in college, Like, was that because I could 280 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: think that would be part of like maybe an interest, 281 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: like maybe I go to one of these MAX schools 282 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: and play both. That could be cool. Yeah, I definitely 283 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: was thinking about that, like trying to play both. But 284 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: then I got the think, I'm like, man, that's a lot, 285 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, going from football season straight to basketball and 286 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: dn't going from basketball to you know, summer workouts and 287 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: doing it all over him. Like, man, that's I'm not 288 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: gonna have no time off. Your body would be beat 289 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: up for the first half of the basketball season. And 290 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: you're a Columbus kids, so I'm sure that once you 291 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: got the high State offer, that was a tough one 292 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: to pass up. Yeah, it was. It definitely was like 293 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: at first I wasn't even like because everybody thought I 294 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: was going to commit, you know, on a site, but 295 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: like it really took a lot of meats you played 296 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: hard to get not really because I actually was gonna 297 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: go somewhere else, but I was just going about my family, 298 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, and then get into the game. It would 299 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: be easy. You know, my dad he can just go 300 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: from work and just go straight to the game and 301 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: instead of him taking off and you know, having to 302 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: go to wherever I'm at for the weekend, so you 303 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: know he can just go to work, go straight to 304 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: the games, right right? Awesome. What what was it like 305 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: to have JK. Dobbins, you know, coming to the NFL 306 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: with you? That was like that night when I when 307 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: I seen that, I got drifted. Like when they called me, 308 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta call j K. Immediately I 309 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: was like, man, I gotta call j j K. So 310 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: someon as I called him, we both just excited. So yeah, 311 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: that's cool. How big a season do you see coming 312 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: for him? Oh? Yeah, he's gonna dominate, dominate. I already know, 313 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: I already know how to already know what are you 314 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: gonna do? What are you gonna bring to the table? 315 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna dominated. Yeah. This this defense, I mean it's loaded, 316 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: like it's stacked now adding justin Houston, I mean the 317 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: front seven is really loaded. Klais last year, Derek Wolf 318 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: bringing him back, Brandon obviously lying Acker. I mean, what 319 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: is what are kind of the defensive goals that Wink? 320 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: I know Wink is a big goals guy. You know, 321 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: what are some of the goals that you guys talk 322 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: about in that defensive meeting room. Oh, definitely, trying to 323 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: be the number one defense in the league. You know, 324 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: that's that's the ultimate go you know, um we're trying 325 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: to no res on touchdowns? Um what else did we say? 326 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: Trying to be number one in um the Russian like yards? Uh, 327 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: No one wants scoring defense number one across the board. 328 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: Across the board. That's awesome. And do you just feel 329 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: like and we'll let you ad actually know you gotta 330 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: gotta go here soon, But do you feel like this 331 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: defense has all the people? Like? To me, it's a 332 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: good good combination of young guys like yourself, Patrick and 333 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: the vets caleis steric Wolf Marcus Peters. Like, it's a 334 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: good combination of you have the veteran players and the 335 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: young players, and I just feel like that could be 336 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: something really special. Like do you see it that way too? Yeah, definitely, 337 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, just like everybody's saying, like these O T 338 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: A s and everything just really put us together even more. 339 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: You know, last year, you know, as young guys and 340 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, the Vets coming in like we really don't 341 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: like we really didn't have no time together to you know, 342 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: really get to know each other. But now now we 343 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: got a year under our belt. We got the you know, 344 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: O T A S. And now we got training camp 345 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: coming on like we just getting more close every day. Awesome, man, Well, 346 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much on the time. We can't wait 347 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: to see what you do this year. Big thanks. I 348 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: appreciate it, all right, thanks, well, good stuff from the league. 349 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's good to talk to him because he's 350 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: kind of a guy that you know, flies under the 351 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: radar a little bit. You know, that's what happens when 352 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: there's a first round in south linebacker in your the 353 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: third round in side linebacker. Um, but is a key 354 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: player for this team. You know, when you look at 355 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: this defense, they didn't now, you know, they just got 356 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: just in Houston. But before that, there weren't really a 357 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: lot of additions to the defense. It was really Eric 358 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: Decasa spent his his off season focusing on the offense. 359 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: The additions were through the draft. The additions were through 360 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: the draft, and really I think a lot of the 361 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: area for improvement for this defense is with the second 362 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: year players. Is the continued development of these guys, these 363 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: other young players, specifically the second year players who were 364 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: drafted last year. You talk about Patrick Queen, Matta, Bik 365 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: and Malie Harrison. You know, if those guys all elevate 366 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: their games, which it looks like they will, well, now 367 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: this defense hits another hits another gear. Yeah, if those 368 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: guys take a job like he was talking, I mean 369 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: he him and Patrick Green have big goals from themselves 370 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: for ball, Like if they if they get to that level, 371 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: obviously that's gonna go a long way for this defense. 372 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: It's also you know for him, he was he was 373 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: limited in mostly rundown situations last year. The Ravens obviously 374 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: still have l J. Fort, who has just played well 375 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: in his entire time in Baltimore, like just Force has 376 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: just been a really solid player. Um. But like one 377 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: of the things with with the I'm back and there's 378 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: just so many there's a lot of veteran good players 379 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: on this defense that it's hard to like, it's easy 380 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: for a guy like Willie Harrison to fly into the 381 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: radar spending more time talking about the secondary. Up front, 382 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: You've got Clay's Campbell, you got a first round pick, 383 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: and Dafe oh Way, you got the first round pick 384 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: from last year and Queen. So for all those reasons, 385 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: he kind of flies under the radar. But yes, like 386 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: if he can, if him and Queen end up being 387 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: guys who are on the field together mostly the entire game, 388 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: like that would be significant for this defense. Yeah, for sure. 389 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't talk any o highest state with him? 390 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: Does he even though that you're I mean, we talked 391 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: to Ohio State. We talked to Ohio State before and after, 392 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: and I did ask him about committing to a highest state. 393 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I thought there'd be some reminiscing, 394 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: like you watching him playing college. Nothing. I mean, you're 395 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: not a Buckeye that you claim to be, this Ohio 396 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: State buck eye, but you're not. I'm a I am 397 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: a tried and true Buckeye fan. How far away did 398 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: you too grow up from each other because you grew 399 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: up right outside Columbus State, probably about fifteen minutes. Yeah, 400 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: do ever hang out? We did not well. Also, we 401 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: have an age gap of about ten years, so I 402 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: forget how old you've gotten. So when I was in 403 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: high school, you know, he's six years old, so we 404 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: weren't really hanging out too much anyway. Yeah, I mean, 405 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: I think that there's there's a lot of potential for 406 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: some of these young players and and Patrick. Queen has 407 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: already talked about the steps he's taken a past coverage. 408 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: If Malik does the same, you know, the problem is 409 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: can he be better in past coverage than LG four? 410 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: You know, I mean sure, he'said, you know, kind of 411 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: like Malik said, like I want to get some some 412 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: third down stuff. But I don't expect it to be 413 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: a situation where it's like, all right, it's Queen and 414 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: Harrison and they play every every play because it's been 415 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: really good. It's because he's been really good exactly. And 416 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: I like, I like Chris board too, Like I think 417 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: he brings something to the table, you know, so um, 418 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: but it's he definitely has room to do more this 419 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: this year. Malik does. Yeah, I've the the stereotype, basically, 420 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: the stereo type of these guys has been thunder and 421 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: lightning kind of. You know, Queen's the fast guy sideline 422 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: to sideline and then the lease thumper. And I understand why, like, 423 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: like you set off the top, big dude, big dude, 424 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: That's why. But like Malik has some speed. He's got 425 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: some speed, and he's we spent time talking about all 426 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: the different sports that he played, so like He's a 427 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: he's an excellent athlete, so I think that he could 428 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: run with some of these tight ends. It's a tough 429 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: assignment to do, so that's why Patrick Queen has spent 430 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: all this time talking about how he wants to grow 431 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: and coverage. I think it's just a tough assignment. But um, 432 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: I kind of like to see Malik like bodying up, 433 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, the Kelsey's of the world. I mean, I 434 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, maybe hit him. You know that 435 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: fifth yard, you know, the fifth yard off the line 436 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: of scrimmage is just jack him, Just jack him within 437 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: five yards. I've got the chip, the chip block basically. Yeah, 438 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, well he's got this. He's got 439 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: the size to match up certainly against those big guys 440 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: like Kelsey or a Waller Darren wall all are a 441 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 1: week one those guys are. Those guys are fast athletic 442 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: dudes too, So you bet you better get a good 443 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: shot on him. I mean, look, I'm I'm not sitting 444 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: here saying you should just match them up and coverage. 445 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: I mean that's more of a Jimmy sim to say exactly, 446 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: here's the idea. All right, I'm gonna pitch us. The 447 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: winks Blee comes down, Kelsey comes off a line, bleek, 448 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: just Jackson, just Jackson, and then let him go and 449 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: then Jimmy and then Jimmy takes them right after after 450 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: Maliks sorry beating him up to the line. And that's 451 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. All right, there you go. I got 452 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: it all figured out. You should be defensive coordinator. So 453 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: all right, what are your impressions of what we've seen 454 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: through the first you know, we're gonna half of camp 455 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: so far, Yeah, I mean it's been good. It's it's 456 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: has been interesting. Now once the pads have come on, 457 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: the defense is making it's your surgency and the last 458 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: few days and surprise, surprise, you know. That's why Clays 459 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: came on Marlon Humphrey when they were coming out to 460 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: the field on Tuesday for the first day of pads, 461 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: were like, all right, now it's real football. Here we go. 462 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: You you guys, and you know when we run around 463 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: in shorts and shells, it's been real fun for you. 464 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: But at times, um, so yeah, it's it's been interesting 465 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: to watch. Uh, you know, Marlin Humphrey got an interception, Um, 466 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, Sean Elliot, Elliott gotta pick six. You had 467 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: got probably a pick six. He ran aloud sidelines hard 468 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: to the Shan Elliott play was crazy that we'll just 469 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: pop the right into his hands. Um, but yeah, so 470 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: really the takeaway from the first week was, Wow, the 471 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: offense looks good despite the absence of Lamar Jackson, you know, 472 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: Trace mcsoreley, Tyler Huntley putting it on dimes particularly you 473 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: know deep. I was just really impressed with their deep 474 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: throws and the accuracy, um, and then the wide receivers, 475 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: you know, approach. James che has been all the rage. 476 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: Shot Bateman has has made plays. Sammy Watkins has looked 477 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: really good. Like I said to you during stadi and practice, Um, 478 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm pushing my chips in on Sammy. I might be early. 479 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: I might be early, and I might be wrong ultimately, 480 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: but I'm pushing him in. Well, I give you credit. 481 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: I give you credit for actually a cann early stand. 482 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Usually you would wait until the end of the season 483 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: after I puts up a thousand yards say I really 484 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: like the same. I'm not saying up a thousand, but 485 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: I think that he could be a I think he 486 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: could be a seven guy. Well, to be honest, I 487 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: think part of this depends um on this receiving corps. 488 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: I've been impressed with Sammy. I've also been really impressed 489 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: with Bateman. Bateman has has polished. I've said that a 490 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: bunch since the Ravens drafted him, and I just I 491 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: like what I've seen from him a lot. I think 492 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: that the ultimate production for Sammy and for Bateman depends 493 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: in part on what happens, you know, with Hollywood Brown 494 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: he got hurt on the second day, hamstrain comes in, 495 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: and there's no indication that like this is gonna be 496 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: a long term thing. But it's just it's just disappointing 497 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: when there's been so much talk of trying to get 498 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: the passing game in a rhythm, when I think it's 499 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: gonna be really important for Hollywood to get back on 500 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: the field and training camp with Lamar's back on the field, 501 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: that's the key. You want to get that timing amongst 502 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: an entire receiving corps. But I'm just saying Greg Rohman 503 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of alluded to that, like yeah, like like the 504 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: the absence of Hollywood in the first week has allowed 505 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: for Bateman to get more reps, Sammy to really shine, 506 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: Prochet to really shine. So like, I've liked what I 507 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: like what I've seen from those guys, and to me, 508 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, those guys are gonna, you know, especially Bateman 509 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: and Watkins are gonna earned a lot of playing time, 510 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: a lot of reps, and I'll be curious to see 511 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: what that distribution of action is like once we get 512 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: to the season. Ravens need both obviously Lamar back on 513 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: the field, but they need Hollywood too. I Mean, the 514 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: offense just isn't the same without that kind of home 515 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: run threat. Now Sammy is a big play a threat too, 516 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: but not in the same being. The Hollywood is Hollywood 517 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: speed is remarkables world class. Yeah, so they need him 518 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: back on the field because a lot of this offense 519 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: runs through that connection Lamar and Hollywood. So um. But yeah, 520 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: other other training camp takeaways that I think that the 521 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: pass rush has kind of turned it on and and 522 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: that's not too surprising because the offensive line is really 523 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: banged up right now. You don't have Ronnie Stanley, Kevin 524 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: Zeitler left practice early. Um, so there's some question marks there. 525 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: Alejandro Villeneuve's still you know, adjusting to switching to the 526 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: right tackle. Uh, but I'll tell you dafe always given 527 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: him a run out there. He's got his hands full 528 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: with her dafe o A. That's probably been in all honesty, 529 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: like the biggest like pleasant surprise is just how far 530 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: odafe o A has come in a short amount of time. 531 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: Like I think there are a lot of people saying, 532 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: all right, well this kid, you know, he's really raw 533 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: and we'll see you know, but you know, now it 534 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: looks like if if he's playing at this level and 535 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: doing so in pats, which is notable, you know, he's 536 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: continued it with pads, and I like the way he 537 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: chases down to every single play, how hard he works 538 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: all that stuff, Like if he is doing that and 539 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: and justin Houston, now I think away if I had, 540 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: if you had, if I had to pick one standout 541 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: might be a guy I think would be my guy, 542 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: Samy sounds like it would be your guy that'd be gay, 543 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: would be in that conversation in prochet would be the 544 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: other guy. I think Oha would be the one I'd pick. 545 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: He is, he's living in the backfield. He is always hustling, 546 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: and that speed is going to be really tough for 547 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: these offensive tackles to handle. Now, I think like I 548 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: like Drew Wilkins linebackers. That's the linebackers coaches is constantly 549 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: working with him on polish, you know, in terms of 550 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: his pass rush moves, and he's on him constantly, which 551 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: I love because he's coaching him up and he's already 552 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: making strides. But the physical tools seem to be translating 553 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: to the football field, especially now the paths are on 554 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: oh way his I think I if I had to 555 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: pick one, he'd beat My guy just impressed me the 556 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: most in the first week and half laying that flag. 557 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: I like it. What do you think? So? How how 558 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: much does the Houston edition boost this defense a lot? 559 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, proven commodity guy's got what nineteen and a 560 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: half sacks, nineteen sacks over the past two seasons, so 561 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: he'll be able to get to the quarterback on third 562 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: downs at a minimum. You can put him in there 563 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: and pass rush situations, and I would think for a 564 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: veteran player, that's probably what they may do, is that 565 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a situational pass rusher. But but now 566 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens have that, like they've got a guy they 567 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: lost that We spent all this time talking about the 568 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: guys to the Ravens lost, Well, they got Houston at 569 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: a significant discount compared to Matthew Judean and they had 570 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: the same number of sacks last year, so and Houston 571 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: has had more over the past two seasons. So now 572 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: they've got somebody that can get to the quarterback that 573 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: allows Winks the flexibility to not have to blitz as much, 574 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: even though he's gonna blitz a lot um. So I 575 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: just think that Malik talked about like which there's no 576 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: surprise that there's all the goals number one and everything 577 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: across the board, Like, I do not see any reason 578 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: why this defense could not be the top defense in 579 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: the league. I totally agree it is loaded. Yeah, I 580 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: think to me, it's about making more splash plays. That's 581 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: where this defense can really grow. I mean, last year 582 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: their number two scoring defense in the league behind the 583 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: l A. Rams, So there's not much of the room 584 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: to go up, you know, from number two, and I 585 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: think Ravens were seventh or something in yards per game allowed. 586 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: So really, to me, if this defense is going to 587 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: take the next step, it is splash plays and you know, 588 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: Wink and you know, whenever, whenever you're not getting a 589 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: ton of sacks. It's always like the sacks aren't anything, 590 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: it's pressure. You know. Well, the advantage of pressure is 591 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: to cause turnovers. That's why you want pressure and in completions, 592 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, but you really wanted to to get those 593 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: splash plays. That's the goal that you're chasing. And so 594 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: sa X. You know, the Ravens are middle of the 595 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: pack last year. That can they get more sacks, which 596 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: leads to more forced fumbles, which leads to more interceptions. 597 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: You know. The more pressure, um just quarterbacks making bad decisions. 598 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: That's what you want. And and that's where the Ravens 599 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: I think we're kind of you know, you look at turnovers. 600 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: The Ravens were also I think seventeenth in the league 601 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: last year. And that's despite Marlon Humphrey ripping the ball 602 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: away nine times or eight times whatever it was to 603 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: lead the league. You know, I I as much as 604 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: I love the fruit punch, I'm not sure that that 605 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: can be replicated every single season. Um So, they I 606 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: think need to get turnovers from other sources. Marcus Peters 607 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 1: is a great source for that. And justin Houston, applying 608 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: poor pressure will help Marcus and other guys get more interceptions. 609 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: We saw it in practice today, three of them, two 610 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: on back to back place. So that's I think where 611 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: this defense can grow and I expect that it will grow. Yeah, 612 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: and another area that I think is interior pressure. Clays 613 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,239 Speaker 1: Campbell was hurt a lot last year than he went 614 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: on the COVID list. That a b K is gonna 615 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: be uh this year if Calais is able to stay 616 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: healthy and play like he has over the course of 617 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: much of his career. He's chasing a hundred sacks. He's 618 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: put that out there, you know, eight more. I think 619 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: he's got to get eight more, which would be a 620 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: really good season obviously. So say he gets eight and 621 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: Mattabeake gets six five, that would be that would make 622 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: a huge difference to get that interior pressure. And then 623 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: you have these guys coming off yed with the speed 624 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: with Oa and Houston and then Taias Bowser kind of 625 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: doing a little bit of everything gets did you see it? 626 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: Parnell on one side kind of rush linebacker handling the 627 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: run duties, and then Houston comes in in past situation 628 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: relieves him for pass rushing. And then on the flip 629 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: side you have o A on first second and maybe 630 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: third down. Where's Bowser fit into that? Well? I think 631 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: bows is your best coverage linebacker by far, and then 632 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna play I mean Bowsers, so he's gonna be 633 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: like all these guys, like what's his role. I don't 634 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: know that Bowser is a three down guy. You know, 635 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: it's interesting. It will be interesting to see how they 636 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: kind of split that up. And I'd also think that 637 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: the arrival of Houston does create an interesting roster decision 638 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: in terms of how many guys should keep. Jalen Ferguson 639 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: Um still early. Haven't seen him do a ton in camp, 640 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: but he hasn't he I guess I would say he 641 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: hasn't stood out one way or the other. He just 642 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: kind of been out there. Um, he's a third round 643 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: pick from two from He's entering his third season, so 644 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: this is this is a big time for him. And 645 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: and I mean Boykin's in the same boat. Oh yeah, 646 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: third round pick in his third year. Like it's time 647 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: put up, shut up kind of time. Yeah, big time 648 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: for him. And Boykin had a tough day, uh the 649 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: other day, and then he got hurt um and so 650 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: with a hamstring issue. So um and Proche has shined. 651 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: So that receiver competition that we spent a lot of 652 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: time talking about, I mean Parchet's stock you know, if 653 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: you're doing stock up, stock down, Proche is a quick 654 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: riser right now. And he's done in pad two, which 655 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: is notable for a smaller guy like him. Like, that's 656 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: the question. One handed catch was nice, Yeah, that's that's 657 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: the question. Is when the pads come on, and and 658 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: particularly once we get in the games. I mean, here's 659 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: the guy who caught one ball last year. He was 660 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: started by three passes last year, James Proprochet. Two of 661 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: them went for pick six. Is the other way what 662 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: caught one for fourteen yards? So you know, he's got 663 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: to prove it in preseason games. But he's at least 664 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: taken the step from all right, you did it in 665 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: shells and shorts, and now you're taking a step to 666 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: pads and you're still doing it against a really good secondary. 667 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: That's something that should not be overlooked during training camp. 668 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: The improvements the Ravens have made it wide receiver and 669 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: the cornerbacks that they have those battles. I mean, you 670 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: want to talk about the cliche of iron sharpening iron, 671 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: that's it. You know, so I I think that getting 672 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 1: back to broche now, it's gonna be can you continue 673 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: to stack days in pads and then do it in 674 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: preseason games? And I think Prochet certainly recognizes that, Like 675 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: there's been a million times where a guy will have 676 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: a good week and then kind of fades, you know, 677 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: over the course of camp or into the preseason. I'm 678 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: sure that's what his coaches are saying, and and every 679 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 1: up along the way he has continued to deliver, So 680 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: they're right once against the games, they'll have to continue that. 681 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: So I think the big story in the next week 682 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: obviously will be the return to Lamar Jackson. He's you know, 683 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: he's out the first ten days, so when he gets 684 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: back on the field, how's he look? Is he rusty? Um? Well, 685 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: he's got to play catch up. That's why I asked 686 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: Greg room And about today, is like, you know, the 687 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: offense has done install right there, installing more and more 688 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: every single day, kind of building up that offense. Well, 689 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: do you have to go back to square one now 690 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: with Lamar because he needs that install time obviously too, 691 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: so he kind of you know, Greg was saying, it's 692 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: a it's a blend like they have to go back 693 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: a little bit but still keep everybody else on pace. 694 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: It's not easy, like that's that's a problem. And and 695 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: now with Hollywood too, like he kind of has to 696 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: catch up. He and Lamar are a huge part of 697 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: a lot of the Ravens playbook. They have to get 698 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: on the same page and make sure they go with anything. 699 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: So it does kind of it adds difficulty to the 700 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: offenses progression. This this training camp. Yeah, and you know 701 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: John Harball often takes a negative and turns it to 702 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: a positive. Even so, this Lamar's absence allowed them to 703 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: get a really good look at these two quarterbacks who 704 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: are fighting for the backup quarterback job. Like said earlier, 705 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: both of them have been impressive. So it'll be curious 706 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: to see how the Ravens handled that. But now, like 707 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: once he's back, you you're you're backs against the wall 708 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: to a certain extent. Not you still have a lot 709 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: of time, but but you've lost time to lost good. 710 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta make up for lost time exactly, 711 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: and you know in a in a quick I think 712 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: also the Caroline practices will be good for them, um, 713 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: in order to get some really good reps in practice um, 714 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: and that's still a few weeks away. So I've been encouraged. 715 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: I've just overall been encouraged about what I've seen. I 716 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: think that this team has all of the pieces to 717 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: be a really good team once again, like all the pieces, 718 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: and they're delivering early in training camp, so I think 719 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: that the indications are very possitive early on. I would agree. 720 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: I agree anyway, you know, you can always We just 721 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: had the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. We'll 722 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: be back next week with another player guest. I up 723 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: got our our sights set on another second year breakout 724 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: player personal names. That won't name any names. It's team anyway. 725 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. We'll be back next week.