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Speaker 1: We're back with another edition of Big Blue Kick Golf

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Speaker 1: Live right here on Giants dot Com, presented by cores Light.

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Speaker 1: I am John Schmelke. Demand to my left is pulled Tino.

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Speaker 1: The full number for you is two one four, five

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Speaker 1: one three. We're also get to your tweets at hashtag

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Speaker 1: Giants Chat. Get him in. We'll read a couple over

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Speaker 1: the course of the show. In fact, the tweet from

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Speaker 1: a week or so ago is gonna be the kind

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Speaker 1: of opening topic for us after we give you some

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Speaker 1: pertinent information. The Giants released their training camp schedule to

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Speaker 1: the fans today and go to Giants dot com and

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Speaker 1: you can check it out. It's on my Twitter feed

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Speaker 1: as well. You can click on the link I read

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Speaker 1: tweeted the Giants tweet. It's on their feet as well

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Speaker 1: if you want to check it out. We'll give you

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Speaker 1: some brief details now and then we shall talk about

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Speaker 1: some Giants football so they will be free and open

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Speaker 1: to the public training camp practices this summer and you

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Speaker 1: will have ten of them, good number. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: the dates, but again go to Giants dot com you

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Speaker 1: can see them all their in totality practice for the

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Speaker 1: first half of camp. Will be a two forty five.

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Speaker 1: So the first six days at too forty five will

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Speaker 1: be July. Then the weekend the Saturday and Sunday July.

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Speaker 1: The next week Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Ut one, and August two,

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Speaker 1: those are all two forty five. Then you get to

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Speaker 1: the following week Tuesday August six, Sunday August eleven, Monday

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Speaker 1: August twelve, Tuesday August five, and that's when the official

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Speaker 1: training camp closes down. Even though the teams will be practicing,

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Speaker 1: camp is closed, so and the team's and the team breaks.

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Speaker 1: If if we were in Albany, that's when we would

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Speaker 1: have come back, but we're not at all, but over

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make any difference a lot of years ago, John,

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Speaker 1: thank goodness for those of us who are from Jersey. Wow,

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Speaker 1: you also couldn't stay up there like like we did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I did that one year. That's pretty nasty. Hey,

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Speaker 1: so uh. The good news here is that there's a

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Speaker 1: variety of weekday and weekend practices open, so that if

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Speaker 1: your schedule doesn't fit one or the other, there is

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for you to get into, an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: see the giant and just some more detailed uh information

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Speaker 1: that again. You can find all everything on giants dot com.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you check it out. UM no cost I

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Speaker 1: mentioned that, I'll mention it again. Fans wishing to attend

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Speaker 1: practice sessions much register for tickets in advance. You can

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Speaker 1: register for up to six tickets per practice session. Once registered,

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Speaker 1: fans will receive their tickets via emailing to present them

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Speaker 1: to gain admittance. UM. While registering for tickets is recommended strongly.

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Speaker 1: Fans will also be a minute to come in on

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Speaker 1: a walk on basis if space permits, and last year's

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Speaker 1: space often did permit. UM gates open one hour prior

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Speaker 1: to the start of each practice. There'll be an accessible

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Speaker 1: seating UM can be reserved. So there you have it. UM.

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Speaker 1: One other thing is I know we're gonna get some

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Speaker 1: questions about it. By the way, there are going to

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Speaker 1: be restroom facilities, concessions and its cooling tents and a

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Speaker 1: water station and a free kids activity station, yes plenty apart. Finally,

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Speaker 1: before we get to our Giants topic, everyone always asked

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Speaker 1: about autographs. Okay, so here's the rules. At least according

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Speaker 1: to the Giants release, select Giants legends will sign autographs

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Speaker 1: during each practice for all fans. A listening of those

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Speaker 1: Giants legends and the dates they will sign will be

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Speaker 1: released on giants dot Com, at Giants on Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: on the Giants mobile app. Each day after practice, a

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Speaker 1: rotating group of current players will sign autographs for the

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Speaker 1: first four hundred fans ages twelve and under. There will

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Speaker 1: Thirty minutes priorty in the practice they can be allowed

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Speaker 1: back into that autograph zone. So there's the basics for

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Speaker 1: always a good time. You can see these guys up

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Speaker 1: if you go to a game, absolutely John. And the

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Speaker 1: good news is the Giants have had enough of winning

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Speaker 1: lot of these things you'll see probably well, I don't

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Speaker 1: And you can see Paul Ta Tina. You can't miss him.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy that's glowing like the sun, moving at

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Speaker 1: excited and camp he's looking to talk to anybody so

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Speaker 1: if you go up to him, am I wrong? As

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Speaker 1: busy as I am watching every play and logging every play,

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Speaker 1: do you think I have time to talk to everybody

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Speaker 1: who wants to talk to me. You don't log every

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Speaker 1: Patty log running plays? What good does it? Dear? I

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Speaker 1: take a note on it. Anyway. It probably doesn't do much,

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Speaker 1: Why Football End Anthony, and he wanted us to tell

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Speaker 1: him who we think the ten most important players and

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Speaker 1: the Giants roster are for the Giants to go to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. His ten are as follows Eli Manning, Lorenzo Carter,

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Speaker 1: the ten best players and have Kevin Zeitlerned Theate Solder

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Speaker 1: what's your take? How should we do this well? My

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Speaker 1: interpretation would be when you say most important, that says

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Speaker 1: at a maximum potential level where he's got he's got

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Speaker 1: a max out. I like to use that phrase a

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Speaker 1: And if this guy doesn't max out, chances are the

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Speaker 1: So let's work. And the one thing I will agree

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Speaker 1: that that works? I think that for me that's better. Okay,

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Speaker 1: He's down right, So we make sure we don't go

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know me. If I don't go offensive

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Speaker 1: I gotta go with Solder left. The left the left

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Speaker 1: tackle is the lynchpin of the offensive life. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: has an old cranky kind of year where his whole

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Speaker 1: that's a big problem. I agree with you. That's fair.

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Speaker 1: gonna pile on. I think Mike Rummers is hugely important.

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Speaker 1: problem with that, dude, due first round picks. First round

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Speaker 1: I've got the tweet. Okay, go ahead. Paul Christopher Nails

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Speaker 1: says over under the team will have twenty seven sacks

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Speaker 1: on the year, and that goes to what you were

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Speaker 1: saying before about important guys on the roster, and you

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Speaker 1: were selecting two pass rushers. To me, I mean, heck,

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Speaker 1: I've said this before. You've got to have about forty two.

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Speaker 1: That's usually my number. That's the litmus test, that's the

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Speaker 1: rough guy. What was last year thirty four, two, thirty

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Speaker 1: three something like that. It was a low thirties. And

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna work. It's not it's not gonna work

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Speaker 1: if they have twenty seven this year. Problem. Yeah, like literally, guys, folks,

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Speaker 1: does might sound like a hot take if they end

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Speaker 1: next year with twenty four sacks? Said, If they end

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Speaker 1: the year with twenty seven sacks, if they win more

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Speaker 1: than six games, I'd be shocked. Yeah, it's not. That's

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Speaker 1: not a good number. And I know that again, outlier

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Speaker 1: Patriots had a lasted league in sacks and won a championship.

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Speaker 1: I get that that is an outlier. Motriots are always

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Speaker 1: an outlier. They really are, okay, and and and despite

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Speaker 1: what we always say, and I'm really uh emphasizing this

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Speaker 1: more often than not, that pressures are even sometimes more

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Speaker 1: important than sacks. I get all of that. Quarterback hits

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Speaker 1: can be just as important or even sometimes more. I

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Speaker 1: get all of that. But eventually those are gonna turn

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Speaker 1: into sacks. If the is not good, no bad, very bad.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's say, let's say it's got to be

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Speaker 1: over because we expect the Giants to be decent this year. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay. Even if bet your trust is second. There

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Speaker 1: you see more pressures too, which will end up leading

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Speaker 1: to more sacks, even if they're not traditional winning without

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Speaker 1: blitzing anybody. Mike in Atlanta is back and he leads

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Speaker 1: us off. Hey Mike, Hey, guys, there were great. What's up?

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Speaker 1: Just stop failing into this conversation. Um, I go as

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Speaker 1: far back as going to the Giant games that shake

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Speaker 1: stadium solf not as old Asa but Greg Morton era.

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Speaker 1: But the pickyback on this conversation. You know, I really

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Speaker 1: was thinking about the last conversation we had when I

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Speaker 1: called in about Evan Ingram and John, you made a

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Speaker 1: comment which you just said again today, which you said

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Speaker 1: last week, which really had me thinking about the Giant season.

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Speaker 1: And your comment was that Evan Ingram is the only

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Speaker 1: mismatch the Giants have in the passing game. And I

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Speaker 1: frankly agree with you other than Barkley. Now, I think

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Speaker 1: they can use Barkley as a mismatch in the passing

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Speaker 1: game to a fairness, Okay, but if we're just if

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Speaker 1: we're just talking receivers, I agree with you that there

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Speaker 1: is no mismatches with Sterling Shepherd. There's no mismatches with Tape.

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Speaker 1: I don't think those are guys that are going to

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Speaker 1: keep defensive coordinators up at night. And because of that,

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Speaker 1: I really expect the Giants to be worse than they

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Speaker 1: were last year on all three components of the team.

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Speaker 1: But I'm actually okay with that from the standpoint. In

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Speaker 1: my heart of hearts, I always knew this was a

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Speaker 1: three year rebuild, um, And if you look at this objectively,

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Speaker 1: with the offense and the defense and the special teams, uh,

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Speaker 1: just real quickly. You know the offense. You guys discussed

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Speaker 1: the problems, but I think the last four games of

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Speaker 1: last year is what you're going to see all year

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Speaker 1: with this Giants team. They're going to face. Defense is

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Speaker 1: stacking the box right up front from Week one against Barkley. Mike, Mike, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Real quick team stacked the box against Barkley all year

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Speaker 1: last year. It wasn't just in the last four weeks. Well,

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Speaker 1: and when you look at the last four weeks, so

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Speaker 1: I really throw the Redskins and Dallas games out because

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Speaker 1: the Redskins were down to their third and fourth string

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and that team already quit and they were already

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Speaker 1: decimated with injuries. And Dallas sat a lot of their

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Speaker 1: starters in that last game and they had nothing to

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Speaker 1: play for because they already clinched. So when you look

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Speaker 1: at objectively, the two teams that had something to play for,

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Speaker 1: in the Titans and the Cults, they really shut Barkley down. Well. Well,

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Speaker 1: remember to remember too, the Titan game was in really

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Speaker 1: bad weather. So if you're gonna throw those other two

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Speaker 1: games because of circumstances, then throw out the Titan game

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Speaker 1: because of bad weather. See that's why I think you

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Speaker 1: have to take the whole thing as a whole and

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Speaker 1: you have to look at it organically. If you start saying, well,

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Speaker 1: this game doesn't count because of this, this scheme doesn't

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Speaker 1: go because of that. That that's when you get really

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Speaker 1: subjective in in how you look at something. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Yeah, I get that, But I'm an

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Speaker 1: old timer and I'll tell you bad weather should not

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Speaker 1: preclude you from running the football unless it is the

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Speaker 1: foot of smell on the ground. You should be able

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Speaker 1: to run the ball, and bad weather yes, that's true,

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Speaker 1: but I think the passing game was so inept that

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Speaker 1: the Titans had absolutely no fear of the Giants moving

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Speaker 1: the ball through the air, which made it easier to

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Speaker 1: slow it down. Ball for me because we got an

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Speaker 1: old school guy on the phone, but he's so uh

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Speaker 1: tunnel vision that he doesn't understand the context of pro

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Speaker 1: football and how the games work. I'm really sorry, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how in the world you're saying you

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Speaker 1: have such a warp view of what's going on. And

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Speaker 1: consider of the Giants had almost four hundred yards against

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Speaker 1: that Colts offense and Eli Manning absolutely tore him to

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Speaker 1: shreds and and yeah, Barkley absolutely the Leonard and company

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Speaker 1: did a job on Barkley. But the Giants plan in

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Speaker 1: that game was to attack them through the air, and

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Speaker 1: Eli Eli show that he still has it and absolutely

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Speaker 1: decimated that Colts defense. It doesn't see what you're getting.

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Speaker 1: What you're totally losing here is you don't understand that Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: what matters is do you have enough components on your team,

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Speaker 1: depending upon the strategy and the game plan of a

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Speaker 1: particular week, to win a game. It doesn't matter. That's

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Speaker 1: why I tell people all the time top one NFL players.

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Speaker 1: Somebody said to me the other day that someone came out,

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Speaker 1: I guess Prete Prisco, who I happened like a lot

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Speaker 1: from CBS. I guess they told him put out a

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Speaker 1: list of the top one hundred players in the league,

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Speaker 1: and the Giants had one guy was say Kwan Barkley.

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Speaker 1: And somebody sent me a Twitter and wanted to know,

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Speaker 1: does that upset me or does that surprise me? And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't care the top one hundred players

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I don't care air. What I care

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Speaker 1: about is who makes the playoffs at the end of

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Speaker 1: the season and who's playing in January. And I could

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Speaker 1: care less about what ranks somebody is tops in the

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Speaker 1: league and crap and Mike, I want, I want to edge.

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Speaker 1: Is one more thing, real quick? On the Dallas game

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year. I have the play

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Speaker 1: percentages on that. Offensively, almost all the Dallas starters played,

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Speaker 1: except for Ezekiel Elliott. Defensively, starting safety Jeff He's played

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Speaker 1: a hundred percent of the snaps Byron Jones play. Other

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Speaker 1: starting corner Shadow Woozier played. Other starting safety Xavier Woods played.

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Speaker 1: Starting linebacker. Jalen Smith played six. Antoine would um the woods.

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Speaker 1: They're starting those tackle played seventy percent. Randy Gregory played

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Speaker 1: sevent starting tackle. W Lee Collins played six. Slot corner

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Speaker 1: Anthony Brown paid sixty two. Vander esh played. They are clinched,

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Speaker 1: but they're on the field and they're playing their starters.

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Speaker 1: If they got out to the play for then garage

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Speaker 1: mention them. But they're not. They almost they're going through

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Speaker 1: the well, then they shouldn't be on the field because

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Speaker 1: they're risking injury. It's really every every single player in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League knows that if he's on the

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Speaker 1: field in a live game and he's not being serious

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Speaker 1: about it, he's putting himself at serious risk. And the

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Speaker 1: whole point, Mike of of Garrett playing his starters in

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Speaker 1: that game, and and it was actually a big deal

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Speaker 1: in the week heading up to that game, is that

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Speaker 1: he wanted them to treat it like a regular game.

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Speaker 1: And that's why he didn't rest Dak Prescott, That's why

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Speaker 1: he didn't rest to Mariy Cooper and all those guys

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Speaker 1: on on on defense, I just mentioned he want and now, look,

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Speaker 1: you're right, might they not had their total edge. Yet

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Speaker 1: maybe I buy that that's fine, but you can't just

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Speaker 1: throw the game out when the Cowboys are one of

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Speaker 1: the top ten defenses in football and say, oh, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't count. That's not fair that they didn't lay down.

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Speaker 1: They may not have been as sharp as they as

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Speaker 1: they would want it to be that day, but you

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Speaker 1: can't to say they laid down. That's ridiculous. I'm just

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Speaker 1: surprised an old school guy like you would make such

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Speaker 1: such mistakes. I really am. Let's move to nineteen so

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Speaker 1: I'm viewing. I look at the list of quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: receivers the Giants are gonna face. They're looking at potentially

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Speaker 1: Wench twice, Prescott twice, Jameis Winston, who carved us up

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Speaker 1: pretty good, and now you got Bruce arians coaching him,

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Speaker 1: so who knows what we're gonna get, Cousins, Brady Tyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: who knows what that's gonna look like, Stafford Trabissie Rogers,

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Speaker 1: and the only real wild cards and quarterbacks they're gonna

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Speaker 1: face next year are the Redskins, uh Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: Buffalo and probably Rosen at the end of the year

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Speaker 1: to Dolphins. That's why when I look at the season realistically,

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Speaker 1: and I love the Giants probably as much as you fall.

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Speaker 1: I could see them, you know, with nine to ten

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Speaker 1: losses and going to two and four in the division.

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Speaker 1: I can see them getting swept by the NFC North

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Speaker 1: filling owned four, either two and two or three and

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Speaker 1: one against the a f C East, and they probably

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Speaker 1: split against the cards and the books. But I'm okay

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Speaker 1: with that because we're gonna have probably seventy five million

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Speaker 1: in cap room and another draft in and realistically, this

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Speaker 1: was going to always be a three year rebuild. Don't

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Speaker 1: you think that? Don't you think the quarterbacks the Giants

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Speaker 1: face last year were better than the quarterbacks they're facing

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Speaker 1: this year. I don't even think it's close. Last year,

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Speaker 1: the Giants faced Drew Brees and Matt Ryan, two guys

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Speaker 1: are not facing this year. They faced Andrew Luck, they

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Speaker 1: faced Cam Newton, they faced DeShawn Watson, and they still

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Speaker 1: faced Mitchell Troubitsky, a guy you mentioned from this season.

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Speaker 1: So I think the quarterback schedule last year was a

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Speaker 1: lot tougher than the quarterback schedule this year. I gotta

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Speaker 1: be honest with you. You have a rookie in Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: You have three second year quarterbacks where you don't know

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Speaker 1: what you're getting out of him in Rosen, Donald and Allen,

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Speaker 1: so I have to disagree with you on at least

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Speaker 1: your quarterback win. I think the quarterback schedule this year

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Speaker 1: is actually weaker than it was the prior season. You'd

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Speaker 1: like to believe after drafting seven defensive players in the draft,

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Speaker 1: and especially beefing up and adding a ton of talent

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Speaker 1: to the secondary, that the Giants defense is going to

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Speaker 1: be a heck of a lot better prepared to play

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Speaker 1: the past than they were last year. Now we don't

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Speaker 1: we don't know about the pass rush. That's still a

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Speaker 1: wild card. But but you know, it's hard pressed to

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Speaker 1: believe that they won't have more talent in the back seven.

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Speaker 1: I I can't. I can't even imagine you thinking that. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think those cornerbacks are gonna take their lumps. Pull

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Speaker 1: the rookies. You're You're absolutely right. And what if I

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Speaker 1: said to John time and time again, they're gonna make

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Speaker 1: their mistakes. The question is how much will the Giants

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Speaker 1: pay for those mistakes? Because those mistakes will be there,

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Speaker 1: rookies will make them. Rot Kanes made a bunch as

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Speaker 1: a rookie, all right, And I'm sure you remember Mark

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Speaker 1: multiple time pro bowler, right as a rookie, he was

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Speaker 1: he was getting beat. My hope is that Baker becomes

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Speaker 1: as good as Markin's. I kind of see Baker as

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Speaker 1: the next Mark Markin's in that molds as Collins. I'll

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Speaker 1: still be happy, Yeah, that do but last but not least,

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Speaker 1: And I'll hang up after I make this point. Um.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I think all three components of our

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Speaker 1: team are probably going to be worse this year. I

640
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: really think the offense will be worse without Beckham. The defense,

641
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: I just don't see it coming together. I think it's

642
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: a work in progress. Because of all the youth and

643
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: the kids and the special teams. I think a lot

644
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: of people are glossing over on this, and unfortunately, I

645
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: think our special teams are going to be worse than

646
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: the last year, simply for the reason and you guys

647
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: touched upon this last week that if we're going to

648
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: be keeping six or seven cornerbacks and six wide receivers,

649
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: that's gonna come at the expense of some pretty good

650
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: special teams, guys like Faler and Russell Sheppard and Stupar

651
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: Hamilton's Lippett, We're gonna, you know, lose those special teams

652
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: guys at the bottom of there by keeping so many

653
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and receivers. How do you all right, thank you

654
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: appreciating Like I mean, I I understand his concern on

655
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: that last comment, except except, um, I'm sure that when

656
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: the Giants keep the extra dbs or the extra receivers,

657
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: if they do, and that's simply a open discussion. She was,

658
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: by the way, our special teams players that that's that's

659
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: my comeback. My comeback is, uh, those guys, how do

660
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: you know they're not going to be as good on

661
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: specials as the guys who get jettisoned and and and

662
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: I think that we believe, at least you when I

663
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: do that the young defensive players that the Giants have

664
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: in the back seven, whether it's Connolly, whether it's Love,

665
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: whether it's Baker, uh like love Love is going to

666
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: be a core special team. I think we believe that, sure, right,

667
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: And I think I think they're gonna be pretty darn good.

668
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't I don't, I mean, I I get your concern.

669
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: You don't know if there'll be a drop off if

670
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: you make if you make some turnaround there, But it

671
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be. That's all I'm saying. It doesn't

672
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: have to be. Well, yeah, I think that's true, and

673
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: I think you like the They have a better stable

674
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: of returners in terms of punt and kick than I've

675
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: seen here in probably eight years. Yeah, in terms of possibilities,

676
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: commend and Peppers is high end kickoff guys. Golden Tate

677
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: has been a high end punt return guy his entire career.

678
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: Peppers can do it throwing Cody Laddimer on kicks. So

679
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: they have a bunch of and not to mention sake,

680
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley, by the way, with someone you could options

681
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: quality and one do thing I want to throw out there,

682
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: And I think this is something Giant fans have to

683
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: think about. And I want to spend too much time

684
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: in this call because you're four more people I want

685
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: to get to and then we'll get this some more.

686
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: As you continue to call in, everyone just assumes, well

687
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: you lose Beckham, the offense is going to be worse.

688
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: Well it's not Beckham and nothing else changed, correct, So

689
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: what you're looking at is that would you rather have

690
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: Beckham or Tate Zeitler remors because that's the difference from

691
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: last year this year. Okay, there's no more Beckham, but

692
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: Zeitler upgrades right guard, Rammers upgrades right tackle, and Tate

693
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: replaces Beckham. Now Tate's not on all Beckham Jr. But

694
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: he's certainly been a very productive wide receiver in this

695
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: league for a long time. He knows what he's doing.

696
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: You upgrade the right side of the offensive line tremendously.

697
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: So does the upgrade on the offensive line make up

698
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: for the downgrade from Beckham to take? That's the question

699
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: that you have to ask yourself. I don't know the

700
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: answer to it. It might be a push. I would

701
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: be shocked if it's a push, because the offensive line

702
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: is the foundation of everything, well everything. I'm not surprised

703
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: you think that that's right. Everything sprouts from the offensive line.

704
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: That that's the roots of the tree right there. And

705
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: when you heavily upgrade your offensive line, you've got a

706
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: better football team. Case closed. So that's the formula you

707
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: have to look at. It's not just oh we lost

708
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: Beckham in of course we're not as good, but you

709
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: replaced them with a good replayer and take and you

710
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: upgrade the offensive line in zite Loon remembers. Now, if

711
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: you want to argue, you bring in Zitelon remembers anyway

712
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: and then put Beckham with them. Yeah, no, crap. Of

713
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: course you needna be better that except that wasn't gonna happen.

714
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: But you're comparing what you had last year to what

715
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: you had this year. You're not putting together a you know,

716
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: hypothetical situation which we're not dealing with. Two one, four,

717
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: five on three, Mark and North Carolina is up next.

718
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: Say Mark, Hey, how you doing. Thank you guys for

719
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: a good coverage of Giants football. You do a really

720
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: good bang up job. Thank you, thanks for sticking with it.

721
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: Much appreciate it. Um Um, I'd like to continue discussion

722
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: on the role of backups, um, you know, to the starters.

723
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: You know, I think I think three man roster. You know,

724
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: every player has got to be able to play the

725
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: first string whenever they're called upon and at least not

726
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: fail at it, you know, And I think the good

727
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: it's a good conversation about a top ten and I

728
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: and I think it's just you know, we got a

729
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: lot more than ten guys that fit that bill. I think,

730
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: no matter who you ask. And that's a good thing

731
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: to have, because you know, I think execution was a

732
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: big problem last year on getting the plays done, and

733
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: I think with the group we got now, especially like

734
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: I think the secondary it was a big need for

735
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: years anyway, and I think it's really looking good and

736
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: that's going to stop us from losing games. I think,

737
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean on paper, you know, the last caller, I

738
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: don't know where, you know. I mean, the pads haven't

739
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: even been put on. It's already like a failed season, really,

740
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: but I think we got a huge upgrade over last year,

741
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: big time. Well you'd like to believe that, but again,

742
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: you know, it's shirts and shorts. So I appreciate the optimism,

743
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of optimism in the building.

744
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: But these guys will go through their growing pains. The

745
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: previous caller was not wrong in that regard. Okay, here's

746
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: the thing here. Let me give you an example of

747
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Okay, Let's say that somebody runs

748
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: triple receivers to the right side, and and the guys run, uh,

749
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: some kind of a rubb rub route. And let's say

750
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: Baker's standing over there, and maybe he doesn't recognize it

751
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: because he's a rookie, or he switches it off in correct,

752
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: he switches it off incorrect. Now, all of a sudden,

753
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: you got somebody spreading twenty five yards down field wide open. Okay,

754
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: now that's a mistake. Now do you get burned by it?

755
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: Because the quarterback finds that receiver, hits that receiver in

756
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: stride and he goes all the way for a touchdown?

757
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: Or or or does the quarterback get sacked? Does is

758
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: there a hold? Does the quarterback get rushed into throwing

759
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: a bad ball that it goes in complete? Does the

760
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: receiver drop the ball? Does the receiver have to make

761
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: a spectacular a catch that he makes the grab and

762
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: falls out of bounds and it's only a twenty five

763
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: yard gain instead of a touchdown, And now your defense

764
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: lives to see another day. That's what I'm talking about.

765
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: The rookie mistakes will be there. If the other teams

766
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: are able to maximize their efficiency and take advantage of

767
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: the Giants rookie mistakes, then the caller has an opportunity

768
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: to be right. Maybe the Giants will have a very

769
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: difficult season and their one loss record is not gonna

770
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: come out so great, But you'd like to believe at

771
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: the very least that a number of the rookie mistakes

772
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: won't be exposed, that a fair amount will, and a

773
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: fair amount won't you Mark, I would say this, I

774
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: feel confident about what the offense is gonna give you.

775
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna average twenty four or more per game.

776
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: And I think if you do that, that's that's more

777
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: than good enough. The defense. The jury is out for me.

778
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Les Paul said, you're gonna get mistakes

779
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: out of young defensive backs. I have no idea what

780
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: this pass rush is gonna give you. And and if

781
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what the pass rush is gonna give you,

782
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure how young defensive backs are gonna

783
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: play your own the year, how can I know what

784
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: this defense is going to give you early? So uh

785
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: to me, I'm in total wait and sea mode with

786
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: the defense. And in my opinion, that's what's going to

787
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: determine how good the Giants are this year. How quickly

788
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: that defense will come together. It'll be a challenge. We'll

789
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: see if they can do it. See and the other

790
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: part of the thing in those safeties, though, no, it

791
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: helps absolutely help. You know you're right about that. You're

792
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, Mark, You're right about See. Let's put

793
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: it this way. If the Giants offense averages twenty six

794
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: or twenty seven a game, WHI should be spectacular, that

795
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: would put them in the top eight in the one okay,

796
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: and and and the last month of the season. I

797
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: know they had the outlier against the Titans where they

798
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything in horrible day. It still counts. It

799
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: does count, It does count. I think I don't think

800
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: it's unrealistic to expect the Giants to score at least

801
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: twenty five a game. I think that's fair, Okay to

802
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: expect or twenty I think you might a little a

803
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: little over your skis. That's a little high. Twenty five

804
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: to twenty six I think is a list Okay, I

805
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: think that's a reasonable number if you're gonna scored a game. Defense, well,

806
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: that's the thing that you gotta you gotta say to yourself.

807
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: Where the NFL doesn't track that. The NFL just tracks

808
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: total points on the data boards, right, what what do

809
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: you What you have to say is do you think

810
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: that Giants defense is enough that given some of the

811
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: rookie mistakes and confusion that will happen and the other

812
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: team will take advantage of a bunch of them. Is

813
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: the Giants defense capable of holding teams to about twenty

814
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: one a game? Can they do that? Can they holpe

815
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: teams the two points a game scored? Twenty five a game?

816
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, you're saying, well, a couple

817
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: of breaks here are there, depending upon the week and

818
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: the game. All of a sudden, maybe you're nine and

819
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: seven and you're going to the playoffs. That could happen,

820
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: thank you. Mark could happen at at the same time

821
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 1: at the same time, depending upon certain weeks, and balls

822
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: bounce into a certain way, All of a sudden, you

823
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: could be five and eleven. Just to give you it

824
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: can happen. Just to give you some context, last year, offensively,

825
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: three teams were kind of in their own stratosphere. The

826
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs of thirty five, the Rams of thirty three, the

827
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: Saints of thirty one, the top three after that it

828
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: gets really messy, folks. The Patriots or twenty seven I'll

829
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: just literally to put it this way. The Patriots at

830
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: number four or twenty seven point two, the Texans at

831
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: eleven or point one. So if you get to there's

832
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: a good chance you're gonna be a top ten or

833
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: give or take. And if you get there, that's okay.

834
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: If you get the twenty six, you have a chance

835
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: to be top eight. And that's kind of the way

836
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: I look at it, and and that that number makes

837
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: you a competitive team, which means you should still be

838
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: talking about important games in December. Whether or not you

839
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: finish in the playoffs or don't finish in the playoffs,

840
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: you should still have a shot in December with that

841
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: type of offense. If the defense is improved, if it's

842
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: last year's defense, that's probably not gonna get it done now. Defensively,

843
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: if you can keep teams under twenty four per game,

844
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: that'll put you in the top twenty. If you can

845
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: get them, it will put you on top fifteen. That's

846
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: and that's that's what I'm saying right now. Last year

847
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: the Saints are twenty two point one. They were the

848
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: fourteenth rank defense. My realistic goal for the Giants is

849
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: twenty five is game on offense and twenty two ishee

850
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: game on defense. That would give you a legitimate chance

851
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. And that's how I feel. Realistically speaking,

852
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: that's where I think this team could be. Again, it's

853
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: a very preliminary gas based on what we saw in

854
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: the spring, and God only knows. I may feel very

855
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: differently at the end of August. But right now, that's

856
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 1: what I'm saying now. That would paul in theory, because

857
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: that that's about a plus three differential right offense, first defense.

858
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 1: That would put you at plus forty plus minus over

859
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: the course of the year. Just for context, the Steelers

860
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: with nine six and one missed the playoffs, they were

861
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: plus sixty eight. The Titans, when nine and seven missed

862
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs, they were plus seven. The Eagles were plus

863
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: nineteen they made the playoffs at nine and seven. The

864
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: Vikings were plus nineteen. They missed the playoffs at eight,

865
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: seven and one. So I think those are the teams

866
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: that are probably most comparable. And the Cowboys won the

867
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: division only a plus fifteen. So I think plus forty

868
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: eight would be really really strong for this team, given

869
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: where that would fall in the plus minus spectrum. That's

870
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: a great goal. And if you do do that, I

871
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: believe you're a playoff team. And if you're the Giants

872
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: after three and five win seasons. That's the kind of

873
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: realistic bar that you want to reach for, because you

874
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: want to be a serious team that has a chance

875
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: to play meaningful games in December. And if they go

876
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: right and you do what you need to do, then

877
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: you'll make it and you'll deserve to be there. That

878
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: would be a pretty high end outcome. I'd be very

879
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: happy with if they finished just positive in the plus minus.

880
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: That gives you a shot. If you're on the positive

881
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: side of the plus minus, you have a legitimate shot

882
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. I think that's a good goal

883
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: to have. A cool two, five, one three. Let's go

884
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: to John Pennsylvania. He's up next. Hey Joe, Hi, guys there,

885
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you first. There. I guess there's no

886
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: league rules because I see here locally here there the

887
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: Eagles only have one free uh to the with their fans.

888
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: There are no rules, I am where the Giants have

889
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: ten or something. I guess there's no league rules that

890
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: you have to have so many correct, No, you don't

891
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: have to have any if you don't want to. Wow, Okay,

892
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: well uh whatever? So uh going on what you're talking about?

893
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: Like you said, mismatches in and I do uh think.

894
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: I know they don't have the game plan for it,

895
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: but I do think a key would be our third

896
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: or fourth thrive receiver or was it Coleman or the

897
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: young speech there we got that if, right, if if

898
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: them guys can break some catch some long ones, you know,

899
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: they're keeping the safety from coming up close, you know,

900
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: and that's a big thing, you know. And and Ingram

901
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: being healthy out in the field, it seems like he

902
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, he misses half the season all the time,

903
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, and especially in the play action game, the

904
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: tight end can be so important. They bus you know,

905
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: a linebacker or safety and they buy on the run fake.

906
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: That can give a lot of room to your tight

907
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: ends and to make some big plays right there. And

908
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: I do agree, Paul, I think Lawrence will be a

909
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: big key in the middle. They're stopping that run there

910
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: at first. And like, I don't think we're gonna have

911
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: that many rookies out there at first. We're really only

912
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna have one at corner starting by I see at first,

913
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: you know Lawrence is gonna start, Joe, Lawrence will start,

914
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: Lawrence will start week one. No, but I mean in

915
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: the back in the backfield, Like I said, Okay, I

916
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: got you. You know, you're really probably the only baker

917
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: really are what our bill whoever wins it out? Basically,

918
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the slot corner could be Julian Love. That's possible. Yeah,

919
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: it's it's close. But you have the other guy that

920
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: name right from last year. And I do think a

921
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: big keys were talking about ten players, you know what

922
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean. I really do think a key is again,

923
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: who's whoever we have cover in these uh tight ends?

924
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: Because you were saying, well, Washington don't have no receivers,

925
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: how they gonna score or move? They have a good

926
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: offensive line, they have running games, and they have two

927
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: tight ends which we can't cover none of them. And

928
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: then you have Dallas you know what I mean with

929
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: Witten coming back again. You have the Eagles with their

930
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: two good tight ends a star last year, And I said,

931
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: it's whoever's going to cover these tight ends? Especially you know,

932
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: it seemed like a lot of times even we'd be

933
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: in third and twelve or third and fifteen and there

934
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: it goes right to the Joe I got. I have

935
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: two words for you, Jabril Peppers. He's gonna be really

936
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: important doing that is that's the key I want to

937
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: put on it in that top ten who was ever

938
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: covering the tight end? I want to put Lawrence, and

939
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: I want to put our offensive lines though. They're together

940
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: and not making stupid penalties and we're running the ball

941
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: good and that's the key. So thanks for taking my call.

942
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: Thank you. I always appreciate it. Did to hear from you,

943
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: Um John. Sometime during the course of this show, the

944
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: NFL Competition Committee unanimously recommended that the rule approved in

945
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: March for instant replay a passive ofference, remaining in effect

946
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: for the two thousand nineteen season only. It says the

947
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: replay official will stop the game after the two minute

948
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: warning of each half and during overtime. Okay, as I

949
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: continue to read through this, when there is a clear

950
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: and obvious visual evidence that a pass interference foul may

951
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: or may not have occurred based on viewing the play

952
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: live or any initial replay, and they have highlighted clear

953
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: and obvious a stoppage will occur under strict criteria, strict

954
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: stricter criteria than for other reviewable plays to prevent excessive

955
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: game stoppage. That's going to be all sorts of controversy

956
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: that it's just kinda be so subjective. It says a

957
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: decision on the field will only be reverse based on

958
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: clear and obvious visual evidence that the ruling was incorrect,

959
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: the same standard for all reviews. This is wholly dependent

960
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: on the video angles shown by the broadcast network, right,

961
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: which is not surprising. Okay, And let's see if there

962
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: anything more to the rule, or it's the NFL by

963
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: putting the words up here, so we can actually look

964
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: at this finala without the volume up. By rule, pass

965
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: interference requires an act that significantly hinders and quotes an

966
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: opponent's opportunity to make a play on the ball. Also subjective,

967
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: Oh boy, All passing plays will be subject to review

968
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: for passive deference. The hail Mary play will be reviewed

969
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: in replay, consistent with the guidelines for officiating to play

970
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: on the field. Also subjective. Oh baby, that's gonna be

971
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: a lot of gray area we're talking about, dude. That

972
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: is all gray area. Man, That whole damn thing is

973
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: gray area. Here's how I look at it, all right,

974
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: And this is how I believe it's gonna work. Frankly,

975
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: I think it's the way it should work. But it's

976
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: still gonna get dicey they're not gonna review those things

977
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: from the booth unless they know that they're gonna overturn it.

978
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: I think you are rarely gonna see them stop the

979
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: game review a pass interference call inside two minutes and

980
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: have to play on the field stand because as they

981
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: just said, they're only going to summon the review if

982
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: it's clear and obvious. So if it's really clear and obvious,

983
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna get overturned, right you would think, I

984
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: mean that makes sense, right, So I think that is

985
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: going to be used only in scenario is like what

986
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: we saw in the Saints Rams playoff game, where it's like, dude,

987
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: obvious if guys are hand fighting, you know, unless the

988
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: dB you know, really gets the arm and holds it

989
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: and hooks it. Maybe, But if there's just pushing and

990
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: shoving in hand fighting, I don't think they're going to

991
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: review those that. I don't frankly, the way the rules

992
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: are now, I don't think they should. I have another

993
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: significant problem with this. What's that? And it's even a

994
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: bigger problem on other plays, not just passing, by the

995
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: way pick plays or another thing. Let's pick places can

996
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: be pretty obvious sometimes too. That's offensive pass interference. Just

997
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: just say, boy, I didn't even think about that. Oh yeah,

998
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: that's how about on the goal line with all those

999
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: little rub brows they run, that's gonna be a mess.

1000
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: You know how many of those are run every Sunday

1001
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: every week? Dozens? It's ridiculous offensive coaches at their rub brows.

1002
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: Not exactly. Sorry, I used to get ahead and he

1003
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: like that. Oh yeah, he didn't like it either. Right.

1004
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: I have a huge problem with all of this as

1005
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: far as the replay system is concerned, and that is

1006
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: they're saying, specifically in this ruling that it's the broadcast

1007
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: network cameras that they're going to use. Well, but that's

1008
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: all the cameras they have. Okay, here's what I've been

1009
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: talking about it, and I've talked about this with with

1010
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: some NFL executives. To look, I do games in the NBC.

1011
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: John works sidelines with me on the games. Okay, that

1012
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: is an FCS conference. It's a mid major FCS conference.

1013
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: They actually have nine goal pros for lack of a

1014
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: better term, goal pro type cameras which are in every

1015
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: single home field in the conference and there and they

1016
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: are installed in a standardized area, and they've got a

1017
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: guy in the replay booth with a laptop who gets

1018
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: to look at all nine of those cameras at every

1019
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: single game when there is a replay review. He also

1020
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: gets to look at the televised ESPN three copy if

1021
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: he wants to and feels there's a need to. It

1022
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: boggles my mind that the NFL cannot un formally put

1023
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: standardized cameras in every NFL stadium so that the replay

1024
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: official in the booth, who's being given more power these days,

1025
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: and quite frankly should be, has an opportunity in every

1026
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: single instance to look at a standardized camera shot. Why

1027
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: is it that he's only gonna get a look at

1028
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: the TV network replays when Sunday Night football has more

1029
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: cameras and more angles. But guess what if you're the

1030
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: El Stinkle fifth game of the week on a Sunday,

1031
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: there's only seven cameras maybe at that game, and you're

1032
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: not gonna get all the angles that you're supposed to have,

1033
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: Right it's the el Stinckle game between the Buccaneers and

1034
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: the I don't know on the Browns or whatever. You know,

1035
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: it's not a major market game and it's on. It's

1036
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: on a Sunday at one o'clock and it's the fifth

1037
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: game on the schedule. And we know the NFL will

1038
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: tell you this if you ask them, or ask the networks,

1039
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: they'll tell you that there are games that get more

1040
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: cameras than other games, their higher priority games. So why,

1041
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: in the interest of fair play and competition, why can't

1042
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: the NFL spend the money Because the technology exists, if

1043
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: it exists at the FCS level in the league that

1044
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm working at now and you're working at now, why

1045
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: can't the NFL spend the money have the technology and

1046
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: standardized replay cameras at every NFL facility so that every

1047
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: replay guy has an equal chance to see an equal

1048
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: vantage point of the play. Why are we relying on

1049
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: the networks when we know that some of these games

1050
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: have substandard video opportunities going on? Before I gotta get

1051
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: the last week calls, No, you're right. Let me just

1052
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: say one final thing, but before I get to the calls,

1053
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: and I'll be quick, all right, two things, one good,

1054
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: one bad. The good. This should solve the problem the

1055
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: NFL is trying to solve in eliminating the egregious miss

1056
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: aches pass interference penalties that can cause the team to

1057
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: win and lose a game, the obvious ones. Even without

1058
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: your cameras in every stadium, Paul, they're gonna get fixed.

1059
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: You could have one camera, they would have gotten that

1060
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: Saints Ramps play right last year, saw it exactly. So

1061
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: this will solve that problem, which is a good thing.

1062
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: And that's a good thing. Yes, it is not going

1063
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 1: to stop people from yelling screaming about penalties and mistakes

1064
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: and reviews at the ends of games. That will continue

1065
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: in mass but I don't think there's a way to

1066
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: stop that. Let's go to Anthony and Charleston. He's up next. Anthony, Hey, guys, Hello,

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00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: what's up. Hey. I'm glad Paul's here. Um, because I

1068
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: have a framework for an eighteen game season. I want

1069
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: to see a se cringes ahead. So we've got well.

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00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: By the way, thanks for looking at my list. That

1071
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: was actually my list. It was how that. Yeah, I

1072
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: was actually listening and I noticed I was like, this

1073
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: topic sounds familiar, So thank god, no problem. Um, So

1074
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: eighteen game season here we go. Um. And I thought

1075
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: about this, Paul, because of you know, players and the impact.

1076
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I played over a hundred games. So you know,

1077
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: my father is a balanced approach. I know the NFL

1078
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: wants to get there. Just remember before you, before you

1079
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: do this, just remember something. I'm not against a team games.

1080
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: I've said this before. I watched the USFL like covered

1081
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: it for three years and the games every season. So

1082
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm not against a team. It's Lands. It's Lander's against

1083
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: a team. So the you know, I'm thinking from a

1084
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: player of perspective, right, So if we removed if if

1085
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: we removed two preseason games, you get two weeks in

1086
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: the schedule. I would like to replace those with two

1087
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: new bye weeks. So for an eighteen game season, you

1088
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: have three bye weeks, one essentially every six weeks, giving

1089
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: players much needed rest. I can start camp, you can

1090
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: start camp two weeks earlier. You still finish the same time.

1091
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: And remember any real quickly, Remember the NFL would actually

1092
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: like to move back the end of the season a

1093
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: couple of weeks to match up with President's Day, so

1094
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: you might not have to move up to start just enough, right,

1095
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: fair enough? No new playoff teams still put the emphasis

1096
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: on the season. Make that it's nice that it's the

1097
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: smallest playoffs basically in all of the United States Sports, Right, Um,

1098
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: you can you play another division, so you play yours twice.

1099
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 1: You play two in your conference and you play one

1100
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: in the opposite conference, so that makes up for the

1101
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: two extra games. That's fine. The only the only issue

1102
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: with that, you're not gonna have any schedule waited for

1103
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: winning percentage. That's the only thing that people might not

1104
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: like about that. That's that's fine. I mean that honestly,

1105
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter anyway. The teams change over every year anyway.

1106
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: So the way that we compensate for that, you know,

1107
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: the teams should get earlier access to players in the

1108
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: off season. The new cb A should compensate for access.

1109
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: I think it's a little too closed off, you know,

1110
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: when the season is actually over. That would allow them

1111
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: to actually ramp people up a little bit quicker, allowing

1112
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: you to evaluate players because you have too fewer games

1113
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: in the season. I think it would actually mean you

1114
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: probably need to increase the rosters. The number I had

1115
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: in my head was sixty total and then fifty three

1116
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: on game day because in college when we played, you

1117
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: had a hundred guys so you could play you can actually,

1118
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, and that's some of the stuff that people

1119
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: don't notice, but you actually get hurt during practice because

1120
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: you're filling in, you're running scout team, and there's a

1121
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: lot of issues that actually happened that people don't pay

1122
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: attention to. I don't think there's any issue with that.

1123
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: You get a crazy amount more revenue. There's good stuff

1124
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: that's reported out there. But I think the three by

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00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: weeks is the thing that I stick with because think

1126
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: about the Sunday the Thursday schedule. You have more flexibility

1127
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: now to reduce those games and you and you also

1128
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: have the ability for these guys know after a bye week,

1129
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: when everyone gets healthy, those are better games, period. And

1130
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: so all you're doing is stretching the season out. You're

1131
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: getting the players more time. You still get your two

1132
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: extra games, but in this case, you look at the

1133
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: NFL and the players both getting something out of it.

1134
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: That's good. I gotta I gotta think about that. He's

1135
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: got a possibility there. You can also increase the practice

1136
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: quad to to help that type of thing that you

1137
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: do it in practice. I I definitely want to digest

1138
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: that one. And the the other one that I heard

1139
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: the other day, to which I'm not sure that I

1140
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: like at all, is go to the eighteen game schedule,

1141
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: guys can only play sixteen games. That, yeah, every guy

1142
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: has to sit for two games. You have to deactivate

1143
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: a guy for two games every year. I'm I'm to me,

1144
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: that's like chewing on nails. I don't think I like

1145
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: it very much. Now a lot of those guys now,

1146
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: injuries might make those decisions easy. Thing might, but I

1147
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: still don't like that. I'm inclined not to go there either.

1148
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: There was another one that was throwing out Lanta Love

1149
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: because he be be a lot of depth involved in

1150
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: its experience. And there was one other one that I

1151
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: heard the other day and serious. They said, go seventeen

1152
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: games and only add one playoff team per conference, and

1153
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: then only the top seed in each conference would get

1154
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: a buy instead of his numbers one and two. There

1155
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: are so many different ways to do this. Yeah, I

1156
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't think any of them will happen, to be

1157
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: honest with you, that's just my guest, Duke and Queen's

1158
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: what's up, Duke? We gotta go a little quick or

1159
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: past one o'clock already, Sorry about that, Duke? What's up? Hey?

1160
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: What's up? Guys? Um? John R. J. Barretts Tonight before

1161
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: I get my two questions. Yes, I think he will

1162
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: be the pick. I hope so yeah, right, hope so too. Um,

1163
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: since since we're late lust of the time, I got

1164
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: two questions, and then I'll take your guests off the year. Yeah.

1165
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: My first question is, um, Daniel Jones that the way

1166
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, you can't tell much to bottom the type

1167
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: of play he's going to be right now, but if

1168
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: you have to pick one like Key Trader, key characteristic

1169
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: that he's to possess and happen like this, you know

1170
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: for the duration of his career. Like, I just wanted

1171
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: to know what you guys think that will be? Okay,

1172
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: what's number two about him right now? And then my

1173
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: second my second question is this, Um, you know, last

1174
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: year we didn't really take any questionable guys you know,

1175
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez and Kwan Barkley what have you in the draft.

1176
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: But this year it seems like we took of like

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01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: a bigger chance to give in Daniel Jones record and

1178
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: you don't know what he would be with a good team. Uh,

1179
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence with his injuries, Tho shames in minutes from

1180
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: a small school. I just wanted to know why you

1181
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: guys think we took a bigger chance this year. Thank

1182
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 1: you appreciate the call, Duke. I don't think the front

1183
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: officers think they took a bigger chance. I think their

1184
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: evaluation of these players, despite the things you talked about,

1185
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: we're just as solid as they were the prior season,

1186
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: despite maybe those obstacles and getting a clear view of

1187
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: the players. I don't think the giants front of the

1188
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: US if they took a risk there. I guarantee you

1189
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: the medical staff did extensive research on these guys because

1190
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: when the football ops tell the medical we really like

1191
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: these guys as football players. Now give me a reason

1192
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: why the medical is gonna red flag him and put

1193
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,479
Speaker 1: bring him down. And they didn't get it. Yeah, Lawrence

1194
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: did get healthy at the end of the season, like

1195
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: he you know, the whole drop to drop foot thing

1196
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: went away, and he should be remember this. This This

1197
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: front office is taking less risk than the previous front

1198
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: office did so especially you know they got double thumbs

1199
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: up on the medical for these guys or they wanted

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01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,479
Speaker 1: to take it, especially on day two. Um, real quickly,

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01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: the first part of this question, I get to, uh,

1202
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: the one thing I'm really confident that Jones will be

1203
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: good at given his intelligence and his ability and his

1204
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: is hard work in his studying. I feel very good

1205
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: that he'll be a guy that's able to diagnose pre

1206
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: snap and call out protections. I think suspect as much.

1207
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: I think from what I've seen so far, it's way

1208
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: to order for me to make any determination as anything else.

1209
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: I feel really good about that part of his game.

1210
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: I'd be very surprised if he looks lost out there.

1211
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, you can check out Daniel Jones.

1212
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: We had him for more than twenty minute. It's on

1213
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: the Giant Subtle podcast. Make sure you go check that out.

1214
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: I tweeted it out, The giants have tweeted it out.

1215
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: Go to your favorite podcast platform and make sure you

1216
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: check that out. Um the Giant Subtle Podcast, I talked

1217
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones, David Crantford. Dave put an express on

1218
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: one this one for me, Pal go ahead, I promised John. John.

1219
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: Is actually two things that you said, and I'll leave

1220
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: you with this and but but they both have a

1221
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: point for Paul and the roster and just kind of

1222
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: looking at this roster overall, John, you said, uh, this

1223
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: past week that guys coming that you didn't want to

1224
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: sign some other guys that potentially could fit here there,

1225
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: mainly because you really want to see a chance for

1226
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: a number of the guys that we have and not

1227
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: to have snaps taken away from them. And I think

1228
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: that's a critical piece to this roster. And the last

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01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: thing I'll leave you with is something we've talked about before,

1230
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: and that is cut down Day. I think this year

1231
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a radical difference of what happens on

1232
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: cutdown Day. I think it's much more likely that a corner,

1233
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: a receiver, and I actually think a backed up center

1234
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: for a lineman could get picked up by other teams

1235
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: that are for those spots. And I think that maybe

1236
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: we might pick up one or two, but I don't

1237
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: think it'll be more than that. And I think that

1238
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: tells you where they think the roster is compared to

1239
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: last year. Thank you for the call. Appreciate it, David.

1240
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: If you go back historically the last four or five years,

1241
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: if you look at the Giants, the players that the

1242
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: Giants cut on cut down Day, they don't pick up

1243
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: anywhere else, the quality of the roster is greatly enhanced.

1244
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: There's no question he made two very logical statements. We'll

1245
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: see where it is on cutdown day. We'll see if

1246
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: that's true. I suspect it will be. We'll see what happens.

1247
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: All good stuff. Remember show, Remember folks, no show tomorrow.

1248
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: Office is closed on Friday for the rest of the

1249
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: summer until camp begins. So we're back at you on

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01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: Monday on Big Blue kickoff lot for Paul the Tinam

1251
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: John Stinks be with us. It's all brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Corps Light. We'll see you next time. Enjoy your weekend, Audios.