WEBVTT - Draft Preview - Josh Allen 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:06.080 Like games over the world, you played to win the game, 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:18.200 He's got it. Jet Sucks Down. Can you're listening to 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:22.360 the Official New York Jets Podcast, a Jets three sixty production. 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:28.840 The Draft is inching closer and closer the Official Jets Podcast. 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:33.760 We're Gonna Lay Me Wyoming, Josh Allen, Monstrous Arm, Ethan Greemer, 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.960 and Eric Allen here on the Official Jets Podcast. If 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.519 there's one thing you gotta know about Josh Allen, it 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.440 is that this guy has an absolute canon. He can 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.840 throw at eighty yards and we're gonna dive in right now. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.320 On the Official Jets Podcast e A. The book on 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.360 Allen is, like I said, the cannon of the arm. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.040 But on the other under the spectrum is the fifty 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.360 six percent completion mark? Is it overblown? Well, that's not 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.440 for me to decide. I will tell you that he 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.800 was through forty four touchdown passes at Wyoming. He mentioned 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:08.400 the fifty six completion percentage twenty one interceptions. Here's a 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.640 guy who out of high school, had no scholarships from 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:16.360 any Division one program. He went to Juco School, grew 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:21.640 up in California, much like Josh Rosen and Sam Donald. 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:26.360 But this was a fireball California, played some basketball growing up, 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.080 and he can throw a ninety mile par fastball. But 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.480 after he went to junior college, he was only offered 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:37.199 by Eastern Michigan and Wyoming, and then he went to Wyoming. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.560 Statistically he had a better year in two thousand sixteen 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.479 rather than two thousand seventeen. There are a lot of 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:49.480 folks who studied the film Greens who really liked this 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:56.320 guy because you mentioned it. Elite arm also tremendous athleticism, 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.480 and a lot of people talk about his leadership and tangibles. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.080 And he is a guy even though he played at 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:07.440 a mid major school, he might have an unbelievable ceiling 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.440 in terms of his pro prospects. We're gonna speak to 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:15.880 Robert Gagliardi of Wild Sports dot Net the Waami Boomerang 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.280 in just a couple of minutes here, but real quick 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.079 on Josh Allen is this is a guy who many 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.480 believe Sam Donald's gonna go number one overall. But if 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.080 it's not Sam Donald, the next man up that many 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.320 people believe could be in play at number one for 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.560 the Cleveland Browns is indeed Josh Allen. Because this guy 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:35.799 has elite arm strength, He's extremely athletic, he can make 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.440 all the throws that an NFL quarterback needs to and debatedbly, 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.120 this is the guy that might have the most upside 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.560 out of the group. I mean, this is why general 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.639 managers are paid a decent amount of coin, because you 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:51.160 have to look at a guy on film and project. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.440 How is he going to make the transition from a 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:58.200 place like Wyoming to one of the thirty two teams 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.120 and play on Sundays. Is gonna be a big difference there. 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:06.680 When people criticize Allen, it is for that completion percentage 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:11.680 and they automatically assume the lack of accuracy. And there 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.120 are a lot of folks who say, hey, that is 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:18.440 just not right. He's more accurate than you think. Maybe 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.080 he wasn't playing with a lot of talent on the outside. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:25.000 Maybe Wyoming through the ball a little bit more down 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:29.520 the field. As far as challenging throws are concerned, Allen 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:33.200 is a guy who if you're making a quarterback and 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.200 you put him in a lab and you think about 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:40.680 six four, six five to thirty, got some athleticism, can move, 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.680 can make all the throws. Also, is a good kid 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.680 willing to learn. It's got a lot of upsides. Now 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.960 you've got to make that projection. Is he ready to play? 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.680 How quickly do you think he can play? And how 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.400 is he going to adjust to your individual program. I 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.200 will say, no matter what the Jets do at the 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:04.200 number three overall selection, if they indeed do take a quarterback, 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.360 I think they have a great structure in place because 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:11.560 Josh McCown is here a guy who is the consummate professional, 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.440 and Jeremy Bates has has success with a lot of 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:18.960 quarterbacks throughout his career, most notably you think about McConnell 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.479 last season, but then you can go back to a 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.560 little fireball back in his day, Ja Cotler when he 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.640 was a young guy. And you know, I think Bates 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.839 is a guy who can take young quarterbacks and he 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.320 can mold them, and he also can take veteran quarterbacks 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.039 and get the bus out of them. And then we 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:36.960 saw that last year. But I think the Jets have 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.800 a good situation if they decide, indeed to take a 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.679 quarterback at number three overall. Josh Allen extremely fascinating because 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.280 some people are infatuated by him, some people not so much. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.600 But you know, let's check in with someone that's covered 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.160 him for the three years that he's been in Wyoming, 0:04:53.400 --> 0:05:02.040 and Robert Gagliardi. Robert, thanks a lot for joining us. 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:06.919 Let's dive in here. Josh Allen, he's a man of mystery, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.480 I'd say, because some people love him, some people not 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:13.320 so much. So from your time covering him, what is 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.159 your opinion on Josh Allen? Well, I think the first 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.159 thing that comes to my mind and about Josh Allen 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.000 is just how much of a competitor this kid is. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.799 You know, I've been covering college football for over twenty years, 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.159 and I've seen a lot of really good players, a 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.200 lot of really good athletes, but I'm not sure if 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.760 I've seen anyone as competitive as this kid. And I 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.800 think that fuel has been kind of been built based 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:39.880 going back to when he was in high school because 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.080 he's always everyone. A lot of people have always doubted him, 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.320 you know that that he couldn't. I mean, there's a 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.360 kid that didn't have offers coming out of high school 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.440 at a tiny fireball California is about a six four 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.440 five pound bean pole, and then went to junior college 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.680 and even there, even after putting up you know, pretty 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.320 decent numbers in one year are not a whole lot 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.320 of people gave him munch of attention, but Wyoming kind 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.400 of on a buck of the draw, so to speak. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.200 They were actually there at his junior college looking at 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.480 someone else, looking at a defensive tackle. I believe I 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.640 saw some potential there, and uh, I thought they'd better 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.600 take a look at him. They did, and the rest 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.880 is sort of history. But that's no if it's an 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.480 underdog mentality, but just just just people doubting him all 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.120 the time is just fueled this kid's fire. And I 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.760 think it's even proven that as we get into this 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.840 draft process, and you know, we all know there's there's 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.120 been some accuracy issues and I think you know and 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.960 Josh is even admitted to that. But then he comes 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.279 into the combine. He's done every you know, since the 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.080 end of last season, he's done everything he's you know, 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.280 he went to the Senior Bowl and did well, He 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.599 went to the Combine and did well. You know, he 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.679 threw it as pro day and did well, and worked 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.880 on a lot of those things that you know, people 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.080 are questioning about his accuracy with and has made progress with. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.159 Now I'm not gonna sit here and say that he's 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.880 he's pro ready. He's ready to step in on day 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.040 on and be someone's franchise quarterback for the next ten 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:07.040 to fifteen years. But you know, I think he just 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.800 really liked the silence of doubters and that just fuels him. 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.920 And I think that's one of the reasons why, in 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.720 my opinion, he's going to be a very, very good 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:20.239 professional quarterback. Robert is his athleticism underrated because everybody talks 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.240 about his elite arm and there is no questioning that. 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.239 But the more folks I've spoken to over the past 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.640 few months, they've said, hey, listen, this guy's got a 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.360 lot of speed, and his feet are underrated as far 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.680 as getting out of that pocket and maybe throwing on 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:40.000 the run and also maybe talking it sometimes. Absolutely, you know, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.400 I'm not gonna say he's got four four speed. He 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.040 is very athletic and not just what he can do 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.640 if a play breaks down and you know, getting out 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.280 of the pocket and throwing on the run. But one 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.720 thing I noticed that at Wyoming was is just how 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:54.760 hard he was to bring down. And that goes back 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.040 to his athleticism and just his physical stature. At six 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.520 ft five two thirty five Hounds. But no, he he 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.840 runs awful well and and you know, he ran a 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.440 lot of Wyoming sometimes more often than not he's running 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.880 for his life. But also, I mean there were times 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.720 where look Whyoming at trouble running the football last year 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.840 and Josh Allen, I mean, you know, yes, he was 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.200 a pro prospect and you know, and everything like that. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.640 I mean, they they ran Josh Allen a lot of times. 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:23.640 He Josh Allen was often Wyoming's best running option last year. 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.480 So yeah, the athleticism is certainly there, along with the 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.480 arm strength and and things like that. But I would 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.320 say if I'd say his athleticism maybe is a little 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:36.000 bit underrated, but him his ability with that athleticism to 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.920 extend plays and and move the pocket and things like 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.959 that are are also wants some of his stronger attributes. 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.040 I got a two part for you, is that you 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:48.120 mentioned the fifty percent accuracy. Someone asked me on Twitter, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.120 and I defer to you, is are those stats overblown? One? 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.960 And two is I know when people say that, people 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.720 meaning pundits around the league say that, yes, the completion 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.160 percentage mark is overblown. It's largely in part of the 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.679 talent surrounding him. So I just wanted you to touch on, 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.160 you know, what talent was surrounding Josh Allen because you 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.559 just mentioned and you said he was Wyoming's off and 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.640 top rushing threat as well, and obviously he plays quarterback. Look, 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.600 I'll admit I think some of it has blown up 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.200 about his accuracy. Now, I'm also not going to sit 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.400 here and say that it's completely overblown, because there are 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.000 some issues there. And again, I think he's been addressing 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.280 some of those things in the off season and his 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.440 training and stuff. And how that will transfer to, you know, 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.560 when guys are coming after him in practices and in 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.400 games remains to be seen. But I'll take you back 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.880 to two thousand sixteen, and look, he had a you know, 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.560 his leading rusher, you know, a guy that ran for 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.560 over four thousand yards at Wyoming. Took a lot of 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.880 pressure off Josh Allen in two thousand sixteen. He had 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.760 some pretty talented receivers and even a talent to tight end. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.960 So you fast forward to two thousand seventeen, all those 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.320 guys are gone, along with his starting center who was 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.320 playing for the Washington Redskin this season. And you look 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.839 at that and you know that there were some issues. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.880 Now I'm not gonna say Josh Allen had every throw 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.240 and you know everything was perfect. Yeah, there were some 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.520 drop passes, there were some growing pains there, but there 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:16.120 was certainly a lack of quote unquote a talent gap 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.360 from the production he lost in two thousand sixteen to 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.440 two thousand seventeen. But one thing that also stood out 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.360 about Josh to me was his character about it. I mean, 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.480 he look, he didn't have to come back after two 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.760 thousand sixteen, but he wanted to. And when even when 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.840 things were a little rough at times, he never threw 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.520 was guys under the bus. He always was, you know, 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.200 doing everything they can to to encourage them and to 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.960 work with them, whether that was working late after practices 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.160 or even in the off season or or things like that. 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.480 So he never once threw anyone under the bus that way. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.160 And another thing I guess with the accuracy is is 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.040 that this is a you know, pretty traditional pro style 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.760 offense the Wyoming runs with with coach pick bowl, there's 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.000 not a lot of gimme throws. The screen game really 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.079 wasn't much of an option for this team. Perhaps maybe 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.400 it should have been, but it wasn't you know, when 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.280 you look at college football today, guys, and you've seen enough. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.520 There's a lot of spread offenses out there and this 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.680 and that, and that's fine. There's also a lot of 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.240 quote unquote layups as far as throws the quarterbacks can make, 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.480 and they're just simply weren't a lot of those for 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.200 Josh Allen. So I think that's where some of that 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.520 accuracy issues come in. Again, I'm not saying that he 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.920 doesn't need to improve his accuracy, but also some of 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:27.800 some of his body of work in some of the 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.080 systems he was in, and even personnel that he had 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.160 also lent to maybe some of those struggles at least 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.160 numbers by Robert, Do you think this jump is going 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:40.360 to be bigger for Josh Allen compared to maybe a 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:44.000 Josh Rosen who obviously played at U C. L A. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:48.720 Or or Baker Mayfield, who again he played a lot 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.160 in a shotgun himself. So he's gonna have to make 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.760 a significant transition to the National Football League in terms 0:11:55.240 --> 0:12:00.440 just looking at system and taking that ball from behind center. 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:05.199 And then also Sam Donald considering Alan playing at the 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.360 mid major level, Carson Wentz had a lot of success 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.520 right off the bat, but do you think this is 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:14.280 a bigger jump for him or that's not fair to say, yeah, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.480 you know you're gonna be you know, you're going against 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.560 NFL guys in NFL defenses and guys who are bigger 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.080 and faster, and the competition certainly, you know, goes up 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.719 exponentially for all these guys. But I'm not sure if 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.480 you know, Yeah, it's a big jump and it's certainly 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.360 gonna be a big adjustments for all But I don't 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.160 I'm not. I don't know if any of them is 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.840 that daunting do that well, Josh Allen played at a 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:36.640 mid major, I don't know if he can make that move, 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.280 you know, or like you mentioned, guy like Rosen who 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.320 was mostly out of the shotgun and can't take snaps 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.400 under center. I have confidence that Josh Allen can handle those. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.680 I'm not to say that, you know, I'll come naturally. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.160 He's gonna be a lot of work and a lot 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.679 of things involved, and I'm sure he's been working on 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.800 some of those things in kind of a controlled environment 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.959 and his training at this point. But I don't think 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.040 it's anything that's so daunting to say, well, we can't 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.959 take this guy because he didn't play against the competition 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.040 that say that Donald did or we can't take a 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.560 rose and for instance, because all I ever did was 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.839 play out of the shotguns. So I think for all 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.960 these guys in the draft, at least these quarterbacks, I 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:12.920 think all of it's going to be a pretty significant 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:17.520 jump for them. You mentioned Allan's competitive spirit. I just 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.680 want to know, is there a specific anecdote that either 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.800 you saw or you've heard from teammates, coaches, other reporters 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:28.760 that really exemplifies how much of a competitor Alan is. Well, 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.320 I've heard from even teammates of his, like even when 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.440 they're hanging out and they're playing video games or or 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.160 something like that, where where Alan is just it's kind 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.160 of like kind of a cutthroat. I mean, he's even 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.520 you know, whatever it takes to him. But I think 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.240 my best example of the competitiveness that Josh allen An's 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.319 came in two thousand and sixteen and they're playing San 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.840 Diego State. I believe it's in the Mountain West Championship 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.240 game and Josh Allen throws an absolutely awful path. I 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.360 mean he even admitted afterwards he throws a pick six, okay, 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.760 and he's and he's so standeva State defensive back Reddit. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:01.800 You know, Allen didn't have a good read on it. 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.360 The guy's returning, it looks like it's an easy touchdown, 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:08.040 but Josh Allen runs nearly halfway across the field to 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.079 make a tackle or try to knock this guy at 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:11.760 a bound, and not only does he knock him out 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.080 of bound, he knocks the football out before that he 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.080 can cross the plane. The ball goes into the end 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.560 zone and it's a touch back for Wyoming and they 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.200 get the ball back. Now. You know, look, I've seen 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.320 a lot of you know, quarterbacks make those throws and 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.120 bad plays, and granted good plays on the defense, but 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.640 that's that's a pick six. You regroup and go from there. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.440 Josh Allen didn't let that happen. To me, that was 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.320 the best example I've seen of him, and I'm sure 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.320 there were others of the competitiveness of that kid, and 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.200 to me, that showed a lot. Yeah, it was a 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.880 bad throw and he knew it, but he did everything 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.200 he can to directify it into to make a tackle, 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.120 to put his body out there, and he ken pretty 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.600 much dope at the guy to try to make the tackle. 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.960 And he not only made the tackle, knocked the ball out, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.480 got the ball back for Wyoming, and prevented a pick six. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.680 So to me, that was that exemplify the kids competitive. 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:02.239 What has Josh's reaction ben when I asked about potentially 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.840 playing in New York? Obviously a lot of people are 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.400 talking about him in the top five category, you got 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.800 the Giants sitting there at number two overall, the Jets 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:16.280 at number three overall, and you know, depending on what 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.640 day you look out there at these my draft Robert, 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.080 as you know a lot of people haven't paid going 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.560 to New York. Sure, you know, I think you know, 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.320 you know, I think Josh has been saying just pretty 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:29.880 much all the right things, like probably a lot of 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.400 these other guys saying, whether it's it's the Jets or 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.000 the Giants or whatever, he just wants to go and 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.000 and learn and compete. And you know, one thing that 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:39.960 was interesting to me because after the two thousand and 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.320 sixteen season there were thoughts that he would come out. 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.720 Then in fact, he had decided he was going to 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.160 come out, not he didn't announce it, but then had 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:49.960 a gut just his gut feelings, and now I want 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.200 to come back to Wombing and play one more year. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.520 But he told me after he made the decision to 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:56.080 come back to Wind, he goes, I just don't want 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:57.600 to play in the NFL, he goes, I want to 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.320 have an NFL career. And whether that's it with the 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.280 Jets or the Giant Scats, it's not in day from 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.600 coming from Wyoming or even from tiny Firebox California where 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.480 he's from, to the Big Apple. But I think he 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.520 I think he's looking forward to wherever it's going to 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.200 be to just go and compete and fulfill his dream. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.600 You know. Yeah, I think it's a different scenario that 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.000 if you're in New York as as opposed to Cleveland 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.440 or Buffalo. And again, no disrespect to those cities or 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.200 those franchises, but I think he knows that. You know, 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.040 I don't know if you can really how you can 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.160 prepare for that necessarily, But I think I have enough 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.760 faith in Josh Allen that you know, he's a very 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.720 adaptable young man and and and you know, um, if 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.560 it is New York in the fish bowl that that 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.520 media market is, I think it was just just fine 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.640 and uh and make the most of it and other 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.400 plus you have to look at in terms of Josh 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.560 Allen as he's not gonna blink in terms of the 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:53.320 cold where maybe obviously Josh Rose and Sam Donald, you're 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.960 not playing in too many cold weather games. I gotta 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:00.840 imagine that Josh played in Wyoming and some of those 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:06.040 road games in some less than ideal conditions. Yeah, you know, 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.200 In fact, it was interesting at his pro day here 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:09.679 and Laryer me a couple of weeks ago, and now 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.280 looking looking Wyoming, we can get snow in June here, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.840 fellas lift you're long enough to where I'd seen that, unfortunately, 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.720 but springing Wyoming, it's it's one of these things. Right now. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.800 I'm looking out my window and it's snowing right now. 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:22.800 You know. It's one of those things where you can 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.760 get snow one minute, Nick can be sixty five the next. 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.120 The pro day was held in the school's indoor practice facility, 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.359 but actually, Josh Allen said, I was hoping it would 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.480 snow because he wanted to go out there and throw 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.720 about twenty balls to prove to people that he could 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.000 throw in the bad weather. Unfortunately, was just windy, which 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.360 is pretty much every day out here in Wyoming. But yeah, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.520 I think you know, he's he's played in some cold weather. 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.520 He's you know, he's practiced in it. I know it's 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.200 not something he loves to do. You know, he'd take 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.200 nicer weather just like anyone else. But he's certainly not 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.360 shy at that. He's certainly played in it, and he's 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.480 played some pretty good football in some of those poor 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.600 weather games. So that's also I guess probably you could 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.240 look at that as as a plus this if you 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.280 look at compared to maybe a guy like Darnald or 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.520 Rosen that playing in much better climates. But he's certainly 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.359 he I can certainly tell he's not shy of playing 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.240 in in adverse weather conditions. You know, when you're talking 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.920 about snow in one minute and sixty five the next, 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.480 it sounds a lot like my alma mater in Syracuse, 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:21.399 because Syracuse it actually snowed on my graduation day and 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.240 the day before it was like seventy degrees. But I'm 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.040 not here to reminisce on that. I want to ask 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.040 you a little more about Josh Allen is that in 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:32.000 his three years at Wyoming, if you could pinpoint, you know, water, 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.280 a couple of areas where you've seen the most growth 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.640 in his performance on or off the field, where would 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:41.159 that be. You know, obviously he got he physically, he 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.720 got bigger. You know, he probably put on at least 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.640 twenty pounds since he's been at Wyoming of of muscle. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.600 You know, I think he's studied the game better or 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.800 taken more of an effort without at least from the 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.560 first time that he got here. But I think probably 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.480 the biggest thing that anything is just his leadership. Look, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.760 we know, guys, we've seen enough football. The order back position, 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.320 no matter where, it's kind of the leadership position, whether 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.720 you like it or not. But Josh Allen has really 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.399 really taken to that. Even you know, when his first 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.200 year when he only played basically what I think it 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:15.119 was seven or twelve plays before he broke his collar 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.760 bone and seven in seven places after getting drilled by 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.400 a defender. Guys just gravitated this kid. And Josh has 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.320 taken people under his wings, and just that leadership ability 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.800 and things like that have have really grown up that 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:28.920 he was bad at it before. Again, I think when 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.520 your quarterback, you're kind of trust into that position. But 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.760 just how he's how he's grasped that and how he's 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:38.280 embraced that those qualities, you know, and and whether it's 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.960 his guys on his offense or his defense or had 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:42.479 you know, I see him out there with you know, 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.400 before practice, is joking with the managers and having fun 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:49.280 with them. Just how he's gravitated to the whole team 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.719 aspect and embracing what it's like to be not just 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:54.960 the face of maybe a team or a fanchise, but 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.119 just a leader of guys and how they look up 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.719 to him and stuff that growth in him and maybe 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.240 superstes anything that he's even done physically or statistically on 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.240 the field or on the statue. How much do you 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:09.440 think he's benefiting working with Jordan Palmer right now? And 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:14.840