1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Listener mail. This is Robert Lynn and this is Joe McCormick. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: And it's Monday, the day of the week. We read 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: some messages from the mail bag. We got some some 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Halloween related email, but also some clean up on some 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: older episodes today, so it'll be a nice assortment. All right, 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: let's jump in. What if we got Let's get some 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: Halloween e stuff out here. Okay, Well, first of all, yeah, 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: this one does concern some Halloween episodes. So you remember 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: in the episodes we did on Elf Shot, there was 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: one remedy for cattle that had been wounded with a 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: fairy dart or an elf arrow, and it involved having 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: a wise woman force feed something called fairy crabs to 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: a cow. We had no idea what fairy crabs were. Uh, 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: there is a thing called a fairy crab, but that 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: can't be what the text is talking about because it's 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: on the other side of the world and the name 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: comes from much later. So we were just at a loss. 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: We didn't know what these what this was referring to. 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: But listener Leanne writes in with some thoughts. Leanne says, 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: I have a hypothesis about fairy crabs. There is a 23 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: species of small crustacean uh Chirocephalus diaphanous, found in the 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: UK in vernal pools, known as the fairy shrimp for 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: their ability to enter diapause when the pools dry up, 26 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: and seemingly magically reappear much later. Diapause refers to like 27 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: a dormancy state in the development of an organism. LeAnn 28 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: goes on, I don't know if people would have used 29 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: the words crab and shrimp interchangeably, but I'd say it's possible. 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: And so Rob I attached a couple of pictures I 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: found of Chirocephalis diaphanous. It is a uh, rather magical 32 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: looking little critter. And yeah, you can imagine that you 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: might attribute fairy like powers to these if you see 34 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: that there's a tide pool or some kind of body 35 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: of water full of these animals and then they just 36 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: seem to disappear, like you What happened to them? I 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: don't know, and then they re emerge later. Well, maybe 38 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: there's some of the fairy folk. Yeah, I mean it 39 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: looks like something you might put in a magical potion. 40 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: It also does make me wonder if there is anything 41 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: in the bodies of these little creatures that would have 42 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: any kind of marked effect on the human if they 43 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: were to consent them, like something that stood out, even 44 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: if it wasn't something that really had a medicinal property 45 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, totally so, I would say, interesting guests, Lien. 46 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: But Leanne has another idea. She writes, another possibility lies 47 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: in an organism found in the pools alongside the fairy 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: shrimp Triops cank reformists, also called tadpole shrimps and a 49 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: bunch of other things. My sister had these sold as 50 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: sea monkeys when we were growing up. I couldn't find 51 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: any reference to them being called fairy crabs online, but 52 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: they look much more crab like. I wonder if they 53 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: may have been known as fairy crabs at some point, 54 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: given their similarities to the fairy shrimp, they're shared habitat, 55 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: and their crab like appearance. And Robi also found some 56 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: pictures of Triops cank reformists for you to look at here. 57 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: They are certainly more more crabby. They have more a 58 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: crawling kind of anatomy. They look in a way kind 59 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: of like trilobytes. Yeah, yeah, these are These are interesting critters. 60 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: They have a sort of a piece of armor on 61 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: the back, like a big dorsal plate, and then the 62 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: skittering legs underneath, and then a tail, eyes up on top, 63 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: various whiskers and do Dad's pointing out? Uh yeah, yeah 64 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: this this looks like a fairy crab to me. But 65 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: once again, uh, I don't know of any literature from 66 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: the time period in that place making the link, but 67 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: totally decent. Guess m. You know. This makes me wonder 68 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: too if we should do an episode on sea monkeys 69 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: at some point. So there are a number of things 70 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: to talk about with sea monkeys, and they certainly have 71 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: a cultural footprint, um including TV series The Amazing Live 72 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: Sea Monkeys, in which Howie Mandel plays a sea monkey. 73 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: Oh boy, has there ever been a killer sea monkeys 74 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: horror movie? Uh? Not that I know of. That's an idea. 75 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: But this, the creature affects in The Amazing Live Sea 76 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: Monkeys I remember as a child being slightly horrific, So 77 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: maybe this counts looking it up right now? Oh oh no, no, no, no, oh, 78 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: it's Mac and me. Yeah, it has that kind of 79 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: look to it. Yeah, they're they're they're weird. This is 80 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: this is a this is some frightening makeup. Yeah, so 81 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: looking up for yourselves, everybody. If you look up, Howie 82 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: mandel sea monkey, you'll see this and perhaps you, like 83 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: like me, you have some conflicted memories of having caught 84 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: this sun like late Saturday mornings as a child. Imagine 85 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: a cross between the cone heads and mac and me 86 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: and the bulls eye. That's exactly what it is, all right. 87 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: This next one comes to us from Ian and this 88 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: is ah. This is a from the previous listener mail. 89 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: Or this is a previous listener mail about allegations of 90 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: inhuman numeracy. Dear Robin Joe, I just finished your July 91 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: listener mail. I am quite far behind, obviously, and I 92 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: had to write in in response to the listener who 93 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: said her cat could come up to at least seven 94 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: when dragging scraps of cloth from the basement. Oh yeah, 95 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: I remember that now. It reminded me of an incident 96 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: with one of my cats, which strangely enough, also involves 97 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: a basement. My wife and I have three cats, and 98 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: when I feed them, our oldest cat, Zoro, gets fed 99 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: last because otherwise he will rush to eat all of 100 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 1: his food and then go steal the other's food before 101 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: they have a chance to finish. I have him trained 102 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: to where though he will follow me to the bowls 103 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: of the other two and watch me dish out the food, 104 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: he won't actually try to eat it. He will wait 105 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: for his own. I have always wondered if he could 106 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: actually count to three, or if he just knew which 107 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: location he gets fed at, and a severe storm earlier 108 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: this year gave me an apparent answer. One day this spring, 109 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: while I was preparing dinner and waiting for my wife 110 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: to get home from work, the tornado sirens went off. Luckily, 111 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: in this instance, no one was hurt and no major 112 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: damage was done, so I turned off the stove and 113 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: went to the basement. The cats, who normally like nothing 114 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: better than to try to sneak into the basin every 115 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: time I opened the door, wouldn't come anywhere near. As 116 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: it was close to dinner time, I tried what anyone would. 117 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: I got out their food and started dishing it out 118 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: in the basement. Only Zoro came down. The other two 119 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: stood at the top of the stairs staring, but would 120 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: not descend, and as always. He followed me to the 121 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: first bowl and watched me fill it, then the second, 122 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: and only started eating when I filled the third. This 123 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: despite the fact that there were no other cats present 124 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: trying to eat the food, the bowls were in completely 125 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: different locations from normal. I was giving all of them 126 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: the same food, and I had picked up and put 127 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: down the bowls in no particular order, so it's unlikely 128 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: he was somehow identifying the bowl itself. For the life 129 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: of me, I can't think of any other explanation than 130 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: that he is able to count ordinal numbers up to 131 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: at least third. Though I am certainly open to having 132 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: missed something, I do generally consider him to be by 133 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: far the smartest of our three cats, so if any 134 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: of them could do it, I would expect it to 135 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: be him. As always. Thank you for the wonderful and 136 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: interesting show. Ian. That is an interesting story, though, I 137 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: there could be another thing going on here, which is 138 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: that Zoro could be reading queues off of you. It's 139 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: possible that Ian, you do something with your body or 140 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 1: your face or something to signal now at his time, 141 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: this one is yours. Yeah, yeah. The there's in my 142 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: own household watching the cat and being watched by the 143 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: cat around meal time for her. It uh. It leads 144 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: for all sorts of theories like, okay, she how does 145 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: she know that it is time and she just hungry 146 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: at this time? Or have I cluded her into it 147 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: by something I'm doing getting up and moving around? Um, 148 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: it's it's always a puzzle with the cats. But but 149 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, like we've discussed previously, they're they're they're they're 150 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: smart animals. They're smart as they need to be to 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: do the things they do, and so when they're encountering 152 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: puzzles like this, they may well be, you know, solving 153 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: them incredibly. They just might not be solving them along 154 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: the same logical or mathematical lines that the human brain 155 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: would solve the same problem, and not dependent upon the 156 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: same sense data either. But I also love this story 157 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: too because it also it sounds like a setup to 158 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: a horror story. Two of the cats knew not to 159 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: go into the basement. Only Zora, the selfish cat ungry 160 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: cat would come down, And I like, how the best 161 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: you could do with training for Zoro is that, Okay, 162 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: he's not going to rush in and eat the other 163 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: cats food, but he will sit there and menace them 164 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: while they eat and until he gets his Okay are 165 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: you ready for Oh? A very spooky Halloween themed message 166 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: about in response to Incense, Let's do it? Okay? This 167 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: one is from Joe, just j O no e. In 168 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: this one, uh, Joe writes an email with subject line 169 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: the scent of the supernatural not fun. Oh and fair warning, 170 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: this email contains some some rather grizzly ghost lore, so 171 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: so be warned. Dear Robert and Joe. In episode two 172 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: of Incense, you mentioned that the scent of incense was 173 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: linked to godly encounters. Since Halloween is rapidly approaching, I 174 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: thought it might interest you to know that in Malaysia 175 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: and Indonesia, the scent of jazz and fringipani flowers at 176 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: night is often linked to the presence of a ghost 177 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: called the Pontianak in Malay or the Kunti Lanak in Indonesia. 178 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: The Pontianak is the ghost of a pregnant woman who 179 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: evisceerates her victims with her long finger nails. She often 180 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: appears in a white, bloodstained dress with long dark hair. 181 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: Some say she died at the hands of a violent man. 182 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: Some say her baby was a stillborn child. Some say 183 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: she died in childbirth. Whatever the reason, she lives in 184 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: banana trees during the day, then comes out at night 185 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: with vengeance on her mind. The only way to tame 186 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: a pontianak is to drive a nail into her nape 187 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: or the top of her head, after which legend says 188 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: she will become a beautiful woman and a good wife. 189 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: Other signs of the pontianic include the soft wailing of 190 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: a baby, light feminine laughter, or a bird calling out 191 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: ki ki ki as it flies overhead. In essence, if 192 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: you smell something floral at night in Southeast Asia, when 193 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: there aren't any flowers in the vicinity, it is time 194 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: to get the hell out of dodge. Oh, this is fabulous. 195 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of these uh, these scent associations with 196 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: the pontianak uh and it's Indonesian counterpart, but I had 197 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: I had read about this this creature before and one 198 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: of my many creature books here, and also it had 199 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: come out where we're always come up because we're always 200 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: scouting films for weird house cinema, And this particular creature 201 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: is the subject of numerous Malaysian and Indonesian horror films 202 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: like going all the way back to the nineteen fifties, 203 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: I think, and then on up to like recent films. 204 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: So I haven't I haven't actually gone beyond the research 205 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: phase on this and watched one of these. So if 206 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: anyone out there has experienced with these movies and I 207 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: would like to recommend one to me, do so, because 208 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm always interested to check out something like this. Oh yeah, okay, 209 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: Joe goes on. Joe also has some notes about our 210 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: episodes on fun. She writes, digressing your episodes on the 211 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: nature of fun made me realize that there isn't a 212 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: term for fun as a now. In Mandarin, the term 213 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: used most commonly to refer to having fun. How one 214 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: is translated as good play, So instead of did you 215 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: have fun, we ask each other did you play well? Instead? 216 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: Our words for fun all mean things like interesting, enjoyable, happiness, 217 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: or joy. Similarly, the most common word for fun in 218 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: Malay is shock or sarah knock, which both mean enjoyable. Essentially, 219 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: our version of was it fun actually means was it enjoyable. 220 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: I will definitely keep an eye out for fun words 221 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: as I learn other languages. Now, hope you enjoyed these tidbits, 222 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: looking forward to more episodes, Live long and prosper Joe 223 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: without any Oh that's fabulous. I believe Joe has contacted 224 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: us in the past with with really good emails about 225 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: Southeast Asian uh mits and legends, So yeah, please keep 226 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: it up. Love the emails, all right. This next one, Um, 227 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: this one concerns a number of different topics. Um, this 228 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: is from Andrew. Andrew. Oh, this one, this one has 229 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: numbers in it, So we're gonna go through a few 230 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: different things here. Andrew writes in and says, hello, fellas, 231 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm a few weeks behind on my podcast, so I'm 232 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: a little behind the ball here. Thanks again for the 233 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: entertainment you all beam into my ear holes. I truly 234 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: enjoy it. Number one A thought came about during your 235 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: discussion of interesting sensors during the Incense series. When I 236 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: was a kid, a relative was stationed in Germany as 237 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: a member of the United States Army. He would often 238 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: send interesting gifts to family members around the holidays. One 239 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: of these was called a smoker, which is apparently common 240 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: in southern Germany. These are basically wooden figurine stylized in 241 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: a similar fashion to a nutcracker instead of a nightmarish, 242 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: unhinged jaw. There is a gaping round mouth with a 243 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: tunnel extending through the torso. The top half of the 244 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: figurine would be removed to reveal a platform where a 245 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: conical lump of incense would be placed in lit before 246 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: putting the top back on. The smoke would travel up 247 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: and the figure would appear to be smoking. So attached 248 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: includes an image of this mine was a boat captain 249 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: and a rainslicker holding a tiny metal pipe. I thought 250 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: this thing was absolutely the coolest, but we had a 251 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: cat who was fond of knocking it to the ground. 252 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: Some cats just want to watch the world burn, you 253 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: know how it is. So you had a you had 254 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: a sensor that was basically the killer from I know 255 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: what you did last summer. He didn't look quite like that, 256 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: and it looks more g No mish oh, No, I 257 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't think the gnome attached is 258 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: the one in the rainslicker. I think I think Andrews 259 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: talking about a different one. There. You're imagining this as 260 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: the killer from that slasherman. Okay, fair enough, all right? 261 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: Number two. I was recently at a wedding where the 262 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: videographer was utilizing a thirty five millimeter digital camera on 263 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: a monopod equipped with a gimbal system. I was mesmerized 264 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: throughout the ceremony and barely caught the valves. Fortunately, my 265 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: wife was in the ceremony, so it's unlikely anyone actually 266 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: caught me spacing out. I like this tidbit because for 267 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: a second there, I thought the punch line was going 268 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: to be that it was there. It was his own wedding, 269 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: he was getting out. But that's not the case alright. 270 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: Number three. During a recent Weird House episode, you suggested 271 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: you discussed rather some poachers going after eagle leggs for 272 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: an unexplained reason. This would have been the Extraterrestrial Visitors 273 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: episode pot people. Yes, because there were proachers in there, 274 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: what led by the guy who looks like a cross 275 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: between Leslie Nielsen and Sam the Eagle Uh. And they 276 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: were like climbing up in trees stealing eggs out of nests. 277 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: As that he continues, I was reminded of the nine 278 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: Disney non musical film The Rescuers Down under Way Better 279 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: than It's assessor, don't at me. The villain in the movie, 280 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: voiced by none other than George C. Scott, is after 281 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: the eggs of a giant golden Eagle. His motivations are 282 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: somewhat ambiguous in this movie as well. I suppose he 283 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: can sell them. Moral of the story is poacher is 284 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: going to poach. I watched that movie when I was 285 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: a little kid. I remember it was it made me 286 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: think Australia was really cool, and I think it was 287 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: also part of a I don't know if there's a 288 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: formal term for this sort of a period of a 289 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: few years where there was just a lot of Australia 290 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: related cinema in the United States. Yeah, like like mainstream ausploitation. Yeah, 291 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: this is the Air of Crocodile, Dundee and so forth. 292 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: I remember this film as well. Um, I think I 293 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: saw it in the theater. And the other thing I remember, 294 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: besides George C. Scott being the villain, is that, I 295 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: guess with both Rescuers movies, Bob Newhart is one of 296 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: the mice. He's one of the main voices in it, 297 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: which always stood out to me because we would always 298 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: as a family, we would always watch Bob Newhart shows 299 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: or whichever one. Whichever one it was where he had 300 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: the end and he uh he ran an end somewhere 301 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: in New England. Yeah, with Larry Darrell and Darryl Yeah. Yeah, 302 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: that one I remember about this movie that there was 303 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: a I think the poacher had a pet. I don't 304 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: know how you actually say the name of this lizard. 305 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: It's like Goanna or Goanna, and it was named Joanna. 306 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah that does ring a bell. Yeah. I haven't seen 307 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: it since then, but I remembered it as being fun 308 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: like I kind of put it in the same mental 309 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: filing cabinet as The Great Mouse Detective, which of course 310 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: had Vincent Bryce and oh yeah, as Ratigan. All right. 311 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: Number four. Finally, I previously wrote in about Sammy Terry 312 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: and he used the story generator to create a tale 313 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: of spooky Savings. This genuinely had me breaking into hysterical 314 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: after while driving home from work. Thank you for that. 315 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: Now that we are fully into October, Sammy keeps popping 316 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: up in my day to day. Maybe it's just a 317 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: little bit ter mine, huffs he attached. And then we 318 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: get some some screenshots of what is this like Reddit 319 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: and Instagram and stuff of Sammy Terry popping up everywhere. Yeah, 320 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's irresistible. Many frights to you this October. 321 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: Oh man, I just remember because of this email, the 322 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: Spooky Savings story. Do you remember that? We I think 323 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: we ran a line from a Sammy Terry commercial through 324 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: the AI story Generator, and it wrote a story about 325 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: how a bank was offering new special deals that gave 326 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: people really tremendous savings, but everyone who took the deals 327 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: ended up stranded in hell. Oh goodness, yes, yes, this 328 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: was a good one. Um. Now, two things I want 329 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: to mention real quick about this about the story generator. 330 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: First of all, I'll share the link again for anyone interested. 331 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: It's story hyphen Machines dot net. And it was released 332 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: as part of this this book that came out. I 333 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: talked to the author in a previous episode of the show. UM. 334 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: One of the author's Mike Sharpell's. So it's a really 335 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: right book. I still really recommended for anyone who wants 336 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: a deeper understanding of what's going on with this technology. 337 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: And and hey, as we're getting into not only Halloween 338 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: but the holidays, that seems like a good excuse for 339 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: folks out there to generate some holiday and Halloween stories 340 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: to send into us that relate to topics we've discussed. 341 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: But the other thing I wanted to bring up is, 342 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, not naming names or anything here. But this 343 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: was in the last few weeks. Was the first time 344 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: I heard like a and this is probably like a second, 345 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: third or fourth hand account, but a tale coming home 346 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: from my child school about somebody using AI generated text 347 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: on an assignment. So that was one of those moments 348 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh man, I'm feeling future shock from 349 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: this because this thing that is in a topic we discussed, 350 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: it's already here, it's already out there in the world 351 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: that my child occupies. You know. I was reading something 352 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: just the other day about students using using AI to 353 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: generate text for for writing assignments, and on one hand, 354 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: I thought, wait a minute, these things are still not 355 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: that good yet. How could they really you like, surely 356 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: you would catch that. But then the other half of 357 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: me went, you're forgetting how bad some student writing is true? Yeah, 358 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: But the interesting thing about it too, and this is 359 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: something I talked about with with Mike Sharpele's, is that that, 360 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: on one hand, yes, there's always this this this tremendous 361 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: potential to exploit this kind of technology, but part of 362 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: his background is in education, and he pointed out that 363 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: this technology is also is also potentially great for teaching, 364 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: instructing children on how to write. So it's it's not 365 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: like it has no place in schools. It's just like, 366 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: how do you responsibly use the technology and and and 367 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: and get students to use the technology responsibly? Yeah, I 368 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: totally get that. End to somebody who has taught writing before, 369 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: I think I can say I I see benefits in 370 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: having alternative approaches to teaching writing, and some of those 371 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: approaches being more formulaic or algorithmic, not always treating writing 372 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: like some kind of magic that just emerges from your brain. Yeah. Yeah, okay, 373 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a message from Dmitri on our episodes 374 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: on Fun. Dmitri says, Hi, Joe and Rob, thanks for 375 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: a great and engaging podcast you do every time. I'm 376 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: a longtime listener. I have recently finished all three parts 377 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: of the Nature of Fun episodes and have a lot 378 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: of thoughts. First, as one with Russian as a mother 379 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: tongue and living in Israel for years, I constantly use Russian, Hebrew, 380 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: and English, often interchangeably, sometimes complimentary. My approach to translation 381 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: is to feel the word by using it in some 382 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: common sentences in different languages. So in Russian the word 383 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: used similarly to noun. Usage of fun is udo volstfi, 384 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: which is also pleasure, not a very close relative. In Hebrew, 385 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: to say I did it for fun or it was fun, 386 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: we use the word kief, which I don't even know 387 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: how to translate directly. So my opinion here is that 388 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: the perception of fun might be also language dependent. Yeah, 389 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think we concluded that is true 390 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: to a large extent. In those episodes. Dmitri goes on, 391 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: speakers of different languages can mean different things by the 392 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: term fun itself, since it might differ from one language 393 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: to another. Maybe that's a reason why it's hard to 394 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: explore fund in psychology. The concept itself is ambiguous. Second, 395 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about having fun in sports. I'm 396 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: an amateur runner, and yes, runners love talking about running. Uh, 397 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: amateur runner who runs for fun and competitively. For me, 398 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: there are several very different funds in running. Let's say, 399 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: when I run alone on the trails, the fun is 400 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: being submerged in nature. It sounds and changing view. Also, 401 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: the feeling of the body working as a well oiled 402 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: machine is kind of fun. However, when I run with friends, 403 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: it's totally different fun the social aspect, the feeling of togetherness, 404 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: the talking. And when I run with my son he's eighteen, 405 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: not a kid anymore, and he often accompanies me, it's 406 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: a third kind of fun. It's like a bonding trip 407 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: with a bit of competing and fooling around. Yet I'm 408 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: still the responsible adult, so sport can be fun even 409 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: in the process of doing it. Oh and running on 410 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: a treadmill is not fun, too boring and repetitive. Lastly, 411 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: about swimming, I also swim laps and rob I think 412 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: this is responding to your comments about whether or not 413 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: swimming is fun. Um Dmitri says, if you want to 414 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: make it more fun, instead of just swimming laps, try 415 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: varying the speeds full speed twenty five ms followed by 416 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: easy laps or add various technique exercises. It's less repetitive, 417 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: so more fun and improved swimming. Overall. Here I follow 418 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: the advice of my son swimming coaches. He swam competitively 419 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: for many years. Sorry for the long message, Dmitri. Dmitri, 420 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: no need to be sorry, Yeah, these may some good points, 421 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: especially the changing of the intensity. I'll have to try that. 422 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: I don't think i've really tried that. I did have 423 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: some good results, like mixing things up to where instead 424 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: of saying, all right, i'm gonna hit I'm gonna do 425 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: X number of of laps to break it up into segments. 426 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: So like now, I break my laps up into segments 427 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: of five. And sometimes sometimes my mind will just kind 428 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: of wander, But other times I find it a good 429 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: exercise to be like, Okay, this is lap number one, 430 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: and I definitely don't want to forget what number I'm on. 431 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: So for this entire lap, I'm only gonna think about 432 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: the movie Alien, and then for lap number two, I'm 433 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: only going to think about Aliens. For lap number three, 434 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: go into Alien three. But lap four, oh no, there's plenty. 435 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: There's plenty to think about with the with the with 436 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: the fourth Alien movie. UM. But you know, I can 437 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: do it with various film franchises, UM, various series. It's 438 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: kind of a good way too, because for me, the 439 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: big thing is you get up into the higher numbers, 440 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: even if it's not that high. If you're only like 441 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: on four or five, Um, you can easily let your 442 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: mind wander and forget which lap you were on. And 443 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't have an avocus or anything or beads that 444 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm using to keep track of them, So if I 445 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: have forgotten where I am, then the only logical solution 446 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: is to say, Okay, I think I'm on three, so 447 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: I'll back it up one just to make sure. So 448 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: now I'm on two and even though, and then I'm 449 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: kind of punishing myself for forgetting what lap I'm on. 450 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: But I would rather not do that. I'd rather just 451 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: did swim the number of laps I set out to swim, 452 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: And sometimes a film franchise can help with that. It's 453 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: a great way to assess one's fitness achievements. So you're like, today, 454 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: I finally made it all the way to the hell 455 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 1: Raiser where evil goes online. I don't use the hell 456 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: raizor films, but but but I have done fun Yeah, 457 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: and the things that have at least five UM installments 458 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 1: are pretty good for this. I think that one's like 459 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: seven or eight by the way. Yeah, And then I 460 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: would I would just get confused later on because I 461 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: don't have a clean enough memory about the later hill 462 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: Raiser movies. I'd be like, all right, one, two, three, four, 463 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: and then the rest, so all right, well, hey, speaking 464 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: of horror and film franchises, the next one comes to 465 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: us from Jim. I'm not sure which Jim out of 466 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: the league of Jim's out there, but Jim, but I 467 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: should say Jim specifies Jim parentheses not from New Jersey. Okay, alright, 468 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: non New Jersey gym, but not be non New Jersey gym, 469 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: because there's more than one gym that's not from New 470 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: Jersey anyway, this Jim says, Hey, guys, I love the 471 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: artifact episode about Freddie's claw. It reminded me of the 472 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: end of the movie Into the Dragon starring Bruce Lee. 473 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: The head bad guy Han had a fake left hand 474 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: that he could attach different weapons on. These include a 475 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: bear or animal claw, and one that had a couple 476 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: of blades or state knives in a row. Of course, 477 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: Bruce wins in the end. The other interest in connection 478 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: between these two movies is a man that acted in both. 479 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: John Saxon. In Nightmare he played uh police lieutenant who 480 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: was father of one of the teenagers and at that 481 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: time got top billing for the film And Into The Dragon. 482 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: He played a buffed martial artist looking forward to Halloween 483 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: fun this October. Jim Not from New Jersey. Oh yeah. 484 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: And when I first saw these two movies in uh, 485 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: in college, I think they were the only two movies 486 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: I knew John Saxon from. I saw them almost nearly 487 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: back to back, I imagine, like freshman year, uh, because 488 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: that year I was getting really into into horror. But 489 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: I also had a big Bruce Lee phase. So yeah, 490 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: like eighteen year old me had intense John Saxon awareness. Yeah. 491 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean, these are two big and iconic films that 492 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: he had had roles in, and then of course his 493 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: his filmography is really really deep on top of that. 494 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, Enter the Dragon. Some very memorable fight scenes 495 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: with that bad guy with the different attachments that go 496 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: in his hand. Uh. They ultimately don't aid him too much. 497 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: He's still defeated by Bruce Lee, as I think everybody 498 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: is defeated by Bruce Lee in that movie. But I 499 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: hadn't thought about that so much. When I was putting 500 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: together that that Artifact episode, I was like looking thinking 501 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: about Freddie's claw and asking the question, what do we 502 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: have in the real world of weaponry? That matches up 503 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: with it at all. And basically the bottom line is 504 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: you don't have weapons like that because weapons like that 505 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: would probably break your fingers if you tried to use them. 506 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: They only work if you're a dream master, supernatural horror 507 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: battye uh. You know, torpedo in your arm, your arm 508 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: through people's torsos in a nightmare. So I'm unsure about 509 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: this claw weapon and Enter the Dragon without I'd have 510 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: to review the footage to even guess at how believable 511 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: this is. I guess it would. A lot of it 512 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: would have to do with, like ow it's mounted and 513 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: how it's supported. Is it supported more on the wrist? 514 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: Is it supported at the stump? I mean, there's a 515 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: lot of There are a lot of ways that it 516 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: would be a terrible idea, but there may be some 517 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: ways that you could actually have it well supported on 518 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: the wrist. I guess I can shed no light on 519 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: the on the knife hand or the claw. But one 520 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: fact I do remember about John Saxon in uh Enter 521 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: the Dragon, as I think in the original version of 522 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: the script, his character was supposed to get killed with 523 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: that claw, but Saxon didn't want his character to die, 524 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: so he said, I'll sign on if you rewrite it 525 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: so that Jim Kelly's character gets killed instead of mine, 526 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: and oh man, that's a bummer. John Saxon should have died. 527 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like they ended up doing anything 528 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: else with that character, did they. Was was that his thinking, like, 529 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: let's let's do the franchise. Oh, like he thought he 530 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: would get his own kung Fu series afterwards. I don't know. Yeah, 531 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: it's it's it's that's an interesting detail. I'm gonna have 532 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: to ponder that one. I mean, as much as I 533 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: love John Saxon, my memory is that he is by 534 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: far the least cool of the three heroes of that movie. 535 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta love Bruce and Jim Kelly Moore, 536 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know. Yeah, well, it does remind me 537 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of the details that we've discussed regarding 538 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Cannibal Apocalypse, where he was like, I'm not gonna I 539 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: don't want to do that scene where I eat human flesh. 540 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: You know, let's skip that part. So I don't know, 541 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: maybe he had an aversion to just the gore of it. 542 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't want that blow on me. John Saxon. 543 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: Did we catch you trying to protect your dignity while acting. 544 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: Come on, it's not about you, You're playing a character. 545 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure he had his reasons. Yeah, okay, are you 546 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: ready to finish off with a couple of short messages 547 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: about weird house cinema? Let's do it all right? Uh? 548 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: This one comes from Pat. Pat says Joe Rob. I'm 549 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: sure you get a lot of recommendations for weird House. 550 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: May I add mine? Watched again today The Black Cat 551 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: from nineteen thirty four, first and best pairing of Bella 552 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: Legosie and Boris Karloff. The film is dense, impressionistic, satanic, mysterious. 553 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: There's a torture scene, necrophilia, and much more. One of 554 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: the earliest film scores. As an aside, many Legosi detractors 555 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: say he didn't get roles because of his thick accent. 556 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: The accent works better for him in this film than 557 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: in Dracula. Should you pass this by? I know I 558 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: will get great entertainment weekly, Thanks ever so much? Pat? Uh? Well, Pat, Yeah, 559 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: we will definitely consider that. We'll put it on the 560 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: list and see what we think. This is a movie 561 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: I have wanted to watch for a long time and 562 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: I've just never gotten around to until now. But one 563 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: of my good friends I remember years ago, was telling me, 564 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: you've got to watch The Black Cat. Yeah. Yeah, this 565 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: is a film I also haven't seen, but I know 566 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: it's It's been personally recommended to me, and I've definitely 567 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: talked to people who hold it up as a very 568 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: fine horror film, especially of the genre of the time period. 569 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: But when they just just stands out genre wide as well. 570 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: All Right, this one comes to us from Tom. The 571 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: subject is Phantasm Death Metal. Hello, Robert and Joe. Thank 572 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: you for the almost frame by frame analysis of the 573 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: movie Phantasm. This film was foundational for my little eight 574 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: year old brain. I'm glad you pointed up the heavy 575 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: lifting that the music is doing to create that dreamlike 576 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: atmosphere throughout the film. You know, I'm all for indulging 577 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: the child's natural love of monsters. I feel like aig 578 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: is a little young for Phantasm. Well we we we 579 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: say that now, but you know, the nineties and eighties 580 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: they were a different time. I don't know when I 581 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: first saw clips of Phantasm. I don't think it was eight, 582 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: but at any rate, um Tom continues, knowing that Joe 583 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: is something of a metal head. I was hoping you'd 584 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,479 Speaker 1: bring up the Swedish death metal band Entombed and the 585 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: titular song on their debut album, Left Hand Path. The 586 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: ultro dirge of that song is straight up fantas as 587 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: a main theme with h M two pedals turned all 588 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: the way up. When I first heard that, it blew 589 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: my then eighteen year old brain. Thanks for the show. 590 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: It has survived many pod purges and is one of 591 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: my favorites. Tom oh Well, thanks for the note, tom 592 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: uh I. So, yeah, you're right. I do enjoy some 593 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: some metal albums, though I don't really know any Scandinavian metals, 594 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: so I don't know this band at all. But I 595 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: did look up the song and I got to the 596 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: part where they played the phantasm theme and it was 597 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: pretty wicked cool. Yeah, I'm not really familiar with them either, 598 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: but but I'll have to check out this track. So 599 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: at any rate, we always enjoy musical recommendations from our listeners, 600 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: especially when they converge with the weird house cinema topics. 601 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: All right, Well, on that note, we're gonna go ahead 602 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: and close this one out, but we'd love to hear 603 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: from you. Keep the listener mails rolling in. Uh, you 604 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: know where to send them. We'll throw out that email 605 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: in just a second, but just as a reminder, our 606 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: listener Mail episodes run every Monday, Core episodes Stuff to 607 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: Blow your Mind on Tuesdays and Thursdays. 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