1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Morning, Morny, How are you great? Thinking back to last 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: time that we talked to, you mentioned the at least 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: competitive game that the team played in the playoffs and 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: whether that was just a bad night or something more. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: What have you discovered in your review over the last 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: couple of months. Yeah, looking ahead to this year, I 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: tried with the best team on the field we can 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Why the changing the philosophy and 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: free agency this year compared to last year? Yeah, spent 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: a lot of money last year. Those guys are all young, 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: they're under contract. Hey, Bill, Um, with the coaching staff 12 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: and Josh going out, Um, how are you going to 13 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: break down kind of shepherding Mac through his second year? 14 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: You've spoken how important the second year is in general, 15 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: and right now don't seem to be a lot of 16 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: coaches who've come in. What's the plan right now? Sorry? 17 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: One more sorry? With Josh going out his offensive coordinator, 18 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: what's the plan offensively around Mac with his second year? 19 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: And you've talked before how important that second year is. Yeah, Well, 20 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: we're man. We do all the things we do in 21 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: the off season, certainly working through the offensive and defensive 22 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: and special teams systems, and so forth is an important 23 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: part of what we do, and so we're in that process. 24 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: So Layton great to have Joe Judge back and Matt 25 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: of course, and they're two really good coaches, and along 26 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: with some of the other coaches that we have offensively, 27 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, Nick, Kylee, so Troy and so forth, guys 28 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: of er last year. So well, we're working through it 29 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: the best we can here. He's gonna step back at 30 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: all in losing a coach of Josh's caliber. You're spoken 31 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: about him a million times in the past, but to 32 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: lose that kind of mentor formac going into a critical 33 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: second year, Yeah, gotta think Matt and Show a pretty 34 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: good coach as Josh a great coach. But you know 35 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: we've gone through that multiple years. So I'm just wondering 36 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: what Joe judge Beck is he gonna have a defined 37 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: role or will he be more of a troubleshooter on 38 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: the offense. Yeah, well, no, everybody will have a defined 39 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: role like they always do. Um again the all seasons, 40 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: they all season. Once we get to getting on the 41 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: field coach and the players and game plan and things 42 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: like that, then you know that'll all work itself out. 43 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: Is your staff complete, and who do you envision calling 44 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: plays on off fence? Yeah, I won't be calling any 45 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: for a while. So we're not calling any for a while. 46 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: You know, any games are wrong. So um, yeah, I 47 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: think our staff is complete. Wouldn't rule anything out, but 48 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think we necessarily would hire anybody else. 49 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: But we'll evaluate every situation as it comes. A lot 50 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: of returnees this year. How quickly did the Malcolm Butler 51 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: come to come together? Um? Well, you know, he indicated 52 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: a desire to play this year, and um, you know, 53 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: we worked through the process with Malcolm like we do 54 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: with every player. Obviously we know him, but um, you know, 55 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: he came up visited, uh where it was last week 56 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: or a week and a half ago. Um, and so 57 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: we signed him. So look forward to having him back. Phil, 58 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: you were talking about Matt Patricia with the offensive staff. 59 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: His primary background with you has been defense. What do 60 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: you see him adding to the offensive staff. Yeah, We've 61 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: had a lot of coaches take multiple responsibilities. Josh and 62 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: Brian Dable were on defense and then went to offense. 63 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: Matt was on offense and went to defense, so forth 64 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: and so on. So I'm not really worried about that. 65 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: I think a good coach is a good coach, and 66 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: Max a great coach, Joe's a great coach. They'll help 67 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: us in the matter what position to coach? And just 68 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: to follow up on Matt, how would you describe his 69 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: role with the organization? Like the fact he's here with 70 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: you today suggests like he's more than maybe just like 71 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: a budget more than that broad role, very broad. He 72 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: does a lot of things ultimate a lot of ways. 73 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: Say is he the only person might be an assistant 74 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: coach slash salary cap person too. That seems like a 75 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: pretty unique set of skills there. Yeah, he does a 76 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: lot of things. So you know, he has a lot 77 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: of experience. He's done things, um, you know when it 78 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: was here, and then of course he had experiences in Detroit, 79 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: and you know then last year, um, things like the 80 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: COVID rules and that type of thing. So he's has 81 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: had a lot of different a lot of different roles 82 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: for us, and like I said, it's been a big 83 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: help to me in the organization. Bill, I wanted to 84 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: ask you more about Malcolm Butler. His return. I feel 85 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: like blew a lot of us away. What's your relationship 86 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: like with Malcolm and have you ever talked about the 87 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: Eagles Super Bowl? Talk about what the Eagles Super Bowl 88 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: and how he didn't play in that game. That's all 89 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: old news. What's the relationship like with Malcolm down? Good? Great, 90 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: glad having back going back to the assistant coaches and 91 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: taking different roles. What benefits do you get as a 92 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: head coach of these guys sort of cross training if 93 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: you will, then they're good football coaches, have a lot 94 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: of experience, so multiple roles. I know you mentioned you 95 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: don't have to be calling any plays until September, But 96 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: how difficult to skill is that for a coach to 97 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: develop on either side of the ball. Yeah, I don't know, 98 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: one of many. Is it one of those things that 99 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: you you can't really know how somebody's gonna perform in 100 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: that kind of role until they're in that moment. Yeah, Well, 101 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: we'll get to that when it's time to get to it. 102 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: Like right now, there's a lot of other things on 103 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: the table. I said we will be calling any plays 104 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: there for a while, look at that later. What are 105 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: some of the other things on the table? Draft? Second way, well, 106 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: just in terms of putting our systems together and whatever 107 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: changes we're gonna make making those changes just in a 108 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: new personnel, building with you know some obviously with Mac, 109 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: building with some and now we know kind of who 110 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: we some of the players that we have back that 111 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: we didn't know we were gonna have back, you know, 112 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: putting that together, Um, you know of a devon back. 113 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean that makes a difference to what we can 114 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: do defensively, things like that, Um, you know, looking at 115 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: some new opponents obviously if you know Mike's in a 116 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: division at the NFC, nor it so some other things 117 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: that we need to be ready for. It. Well, that 118 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: was all part of it is creating whatever offense to 119 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: take advantage of max skills? Is that a collaboration? Do 120 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: you take the lead on that? Is it you with 121 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: Mac and Nick, Kayley and Matt? And how does it? 122 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: How does it work? Well? Ullibly, it's my responsibility. So 123 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: whatever happens under that, just whatever happens happened, is it 124 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: gonna be pressed? Can we different this year? I don't 125 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: know kind of ways to go? What are the qualities 126 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: that Matt grow has that have allowed him to rise 127 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: through the organization. Ye, Matt's on a tremendous job for us. 128 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: Um very smart, very detailed. Obviously has a great football 129 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: background with his dad, his family. You know, he's grown up, 130 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: grown up in football and m you know, scouted multiple 131 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: areas for US, said multiple responsibilities from area scouts, from 132 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: the West coast of Southeast Art regional scout, National scout. Um, 133 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: and don't really put the draft together last year as 134 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: a director of college scouting and and you know what, 135 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: Dave leave and feel like he's the best person to 136 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: step into the personnel job. He's done a great job 137 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I think he he's as good 138 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: as anybody that we've had in that position. How surprised 139 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: were you that Tom Lund retired? Yeah, you have fuck 140 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: to Tom about all that you put a guy who 141 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: built through the grounds. I'm surprised. Well. With the movies 142 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: that have been made across the day, we're all the 143 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: trades and decided. Our teams are more but winning our mode. 144 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: Are they changing from take them at Tim Appros? Yeah? 145 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm sure each 146 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: teams know what they think is best. That's what we're doing. 147 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, built why trade? Shack Mason felt like I 148 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: was best best mental interest in the team. Do you 149 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: have plans for someone that was on the roster last 150 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: year to take a bigger step this year. Yeah, we'll 151 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: have a lot of competition. We'll see our plays out. 152 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: Was there much sorry, was there much effort to retain 153 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: j C. Jackson? Sure, we talked all the players, all 154 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: our free agent players, and we resigned quite a few 155 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: and somebody didn't resign. Bill. When you've said in the past, 156 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: you're either getting better you're getting worse. And when you 157 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: look at some of the outflow with Josh McDaniels and j. C. Jackson, 158 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: some of the other assistants and Kyle Vannois and Shaq Mason, 159 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: from the outside, it looks like a significant amount of 160 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: important players and coaches have left. Have you guys gotten 161 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: better or worse since the loss to Buffalup. Yeah, well 162 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: we'll find out next year. See, I think some of 163 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: the players that we have on the roster, hopefully we'll 164 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: take a step up. But we'll say now we'll have 165 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: other players, there'll be new players here. Let see what 166 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: happens with them. Speaking of those, John Smith, it's just 167 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: it's an important year for everyone. But I would imagine 168 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: you feel there's probably more in the tank from Johannu 169 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: that you can do now that you've known him for 170 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: a season. I'll listen new year for all of us. 171 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: So sure is yo. You ended up in the middle 172 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: of the Brian Flores lawsuit. What happened from your perspective? Yeah, 173 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: I can't comment on it. Could you comment if you 174 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 1: had any communication with John Marrow? I can't comment on it, 175 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: and I'm on the scheme. Say you're talking about with 176 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: the football team. Jacob Johnson had mentioned to a German 177 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: media outlet just that he was told, from his perspective, 178 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: his services were no longer needed because his position wasn't 179 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: going to be part of the team. How much is 180 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: that part of what you're doing this offseason, changing schemes 181 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: on offense. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Again, we'll put 182 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: together with the offense so we feel is the best 183 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: that we can and that's what we'll do. Bill. I 184 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: know obviously you worked a lot with Mac personally last year, 185 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: but do you see your individual time being spent more 186 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: with with Mac this year with some of the turnover 187 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: obviously in the toun I we'll say that goes um. 188 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've done a variety of things. I'll do, 189 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: and I feel like help suttain the best whatever that is. 190 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: How confident are you that that Mac will be an 191 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: improved player from the end of last year to the 192 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: start of the next one. Here, it's a new year 193 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: for all of us, so we'll see. I'm as simming, 194 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: you're knocking a name and offensive. We're a defensive coordinator 195 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: this year? Why not? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I'm not 196 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: big on titles. So we have jobs to do. We'll 197 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: do the jobs. Does that create any confusion as to 198 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: like accountability, a chain of command and things like that. Yeah, 199 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what difference in nice 200 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: you trade it for Mac Wilson help out back? Does 201 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: your history go with him? Yeah? We saw Matt coming out. 202 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: You know he's um you know, played a lot early 203 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, has played less the last couple of years. 204 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: I feel like he's a good addition. Happy to have him, 205 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: look forward to working with him. We'll see you, I'll 206 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: say that plays out built. Do the titles make a 207 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: difference for guys when they want to proceed to different jobs? 208 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: For instance, a defensive coordinator looking for a head coaching 209 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: job doesn't have to go in if he's just in 210 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: a linebackers coach, you'd explain what his responsibilities are. Additionally, 211 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: it matters relative to salary around the league. I would think, 212 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: so those would be two places that the title matters. Yeah, 213 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. You'd have to talk to them about that. Yeah, 214 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: all right, didn't see them matter when Joe Judge was 215 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: hired by the Giants. Didn't matter to you when you 216 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: were an assistant for instance, when you were a defensive 217 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: coordinator with the Giants. Or I don't worry about titles 218 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: or at Giles. The one issue this week is over time. 219 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: Any thoughts on the proposals you want to see any changes? Um, Yeah, 220 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: there was a little bit of discussion yesterday. I'm sure 221 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: they'll be small discussion. See what everybody's as I say, 222 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: we care about the both team or give an opinion 223 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: about where both teams deserve album possession. Um, there's a 224 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: lot of different arguments for various proposals, so kinda sort 225 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: them out here. When you when you do something for 226 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: twenty three straight years, like how do you keep it 227 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: fresh for yourself to be invigorated to go through the 228 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: process again? And I enjoy it? What joy doing it? 229 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: What do you what do you enjoy about it? Yeah, 230 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: all parts of it. Comprehensive job. So it's a lot, 231 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: but it's fun. Beats working Kelly's rule change it all 232 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: this year from just wide receivers take on more. Yeah, 233 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: so Nick hasn't coached thirst sivers so and I don't 234 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: know it's coaching the receivers this year, but sorry, you 235 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: know Nick's a good coach. Nick's contributes a lot to 236 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: our organization, and I'm sure we'll have a very significant 237 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: role and like he always has, but they'll have, you know, 238 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: as he grows in experience, Um, they don't have more responsibility. 239 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: So that's that's pretty common the way it works. And 240 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: you could fall into that category. Bill, when you give 241 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: your personal endorsement on a candidate like Joe Judge to 242 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: the giants and he gets fired only two years into 243 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: what's supposed to be a long term plan. Do you 244 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: have any kind of reaction to that disappointment that you 245 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: put your name behind that and that person didn't get 246 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: maybe the shot they thought they would. Yeah, it's not 247 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: my decision. I wasn't there, so I don't know regarding 248 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: will talk to the giants about that? I don't regarding 249 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: the lawsuit. Are those alleged text messages accurate as a 250 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: text conversation? You can't comment on it. I was reading 251 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: a recent book by Mike Floro and there was a 252 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: line in there the Robert Craft said, he wants you 253 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: to coach into your mid eighties. What do you think 254 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: about that? Yeah? Yeah, if they ask Mike about that, 255 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, the idea of coaching another fifteen 256 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: years in your mid eighties, slewing forward to this year, 257 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: got a lot to do and not really looking past 258 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: it or behind it, Folks on the present a lot 259 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: to do. Which assistant coach work most with Mac this year? 260 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: Josh and bow Hard agree, are going Yeah, well, obviously 261 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: that's important for all players to get coached well, and 262 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: we plan on doing that. So until the players come 263 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: in and you start coaching them, it's really we'll work 264 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: through that. Joe Judge, maybe, sure, everybody will have a 265 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: role in it. I'll all I'll work with him like 266 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: I have before at Joe quarterbacks. But I know he 267 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: played quarterback at one point in time. But would you 268 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: feel comfortable if he was? Yeah, I feel comfortable. I 269 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: told you that Joe's a good coach. I like having 270 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: on our staff, you'll have a lot of responsibility you 271 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: just mentioned a minute ago, it's a comprehensive job. How 272 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: do you manage your time at this point in time? 273 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: Build again to turn over the front office and on 274 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. How do you make sure that you're 275 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: not spread too thin? I feel like I have a 276 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: lot of good people working with me in the organization. Collectively, 277 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, we do we need to we get done. 278 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: I certainly don't do at all by any stretch. I 279 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: rely on a lot of other good people and they 280 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: do a great job. A very fortunate out of people 281 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: on a staff that we have. What's the key in 282 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: the NFL? Just sustainability? Like this is a very high 283 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: turnover lead coaches, GMS programs. You've been able to kind 284 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: of push through all of that. What do you think 285 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: the key is to building a program that's esteems? You know, 286 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: I don't having a lot of good people, good owner, 287 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: good coaching staff, good players, they're all important, good support system, 288 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: they're all important. Hey man, how are you doing that 289 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: all right? Touch? I don't know how you're hearing all 290 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: these questions. They get acoustics in this place, but I'm 291 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: curious about your thoughts on the overtime rule and specifically 292 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: the one that's got like the two point conversion it's 293 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: being the big change. Yeah, there was some conversation yesterday. 294 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll be more, so just kind of listening 295 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: to all the points and get brought out here and 296 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: try to see what the frozen cons are. Are you 297 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: in favor of will any one of those proposals? Yeah, 298 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: I think I stayed in my position on the overtime before. 299 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: It hadn't changed. For those who don't know your position, 300 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: I didn't didn't catch a profession before. But I mean 301 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: this comes up every year, We talk about it every year, 302 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: and my feelings that are same as they've been, so 303 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: they haven't changed. One of the first moves in free 304 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: agency with Devin mccordy resigning, how significant was that decision 305 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: of bringing back to you. Yeah, it's great to have 306 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: Devin back, great to have Matt back. Um play. We're 307 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: able to work things out and those are two fantastic 308 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: people as well as players. They mean a lot through 309 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: the organization. They're great role models and great players, and 310 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: so feel very fortunate to coach two of the best 311 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: at the position that have ever played. UM certainly Matt's layer, 312 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, go out there with in a kicking game 313 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: with you know, Brady on offense and Taylor on defense. 314 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: So feel very very fortunate they've had the opportunity to 315 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: coach those all the players, but let's say those three 316 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: in particular. Along those lines, James White said, once he 317 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: found out you were interested in bringing him back, that 318 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: was it for him. How does that make you feel 319 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: knowing that he helped them? Yeah, look forward to seeing 320 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: James UM and I think he's he's certainly worked hard 321 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: and made a lot of progress. Um. You know when 322 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: when we start the offseason program kind of see where 323 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: things are at that point. And but yeah, great James 324 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: is another again fantastic person and a multiple year captain 325 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: and great work ethic, great role model for UM. You 326 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: know our younger backs, particularly you know Stevenson, Damien, those 327 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: guys you know, j j uh Zebo and so forth. 328 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: So in Montgomery now UM receive or running back whatever 329 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: he is. But so yeah, it's great to have him 330 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: to unretired after Yeah, you'd have talked to Tom about 331 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: all that, UM, but Tom's played a long time. Nothing 332 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: he does surprise to me, but it could be a 333 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: decision on J C. Jackson Well ultimately led you to 334 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: say let them let him test free. And you see 335 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: it's opposed to tag him from one year and tag 336 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: and trade him. Uh yeah we did. We follow him 337 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: his best by the team to uh to get Trent 338 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: brown Back kind of stabilize that side of the other. 339 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: Good day, TRYMP brown Back. We're able to work it 340 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: out play We're able to work it out with all 341 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: the players that were resigned. Just let you see from 342 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: him last year coming back into intar building and getting 343 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: into the starting lineup for it. Well, I mean he 344 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: played well when when he played um that I missed 345 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: half the year. So hopefully hopefully we'll be able to 346 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: get more playtime from this year. But next quality player 347 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: to go back to Matt you mentioned him, you know 348 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: with Brady and Taylor. Just a general question when you 349 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: look at the Hall of Fame and the honors for 350 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: guys who are dedicated special teams players. I know that 351 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: we're off the beaten path. Would that be something that 352 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: you think that maybe the Hall and the voters could 353 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: try and encompass a little bit more. Are those players 354 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: who have whether it's Stephen Hester or Matt Slater the 355 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: Special Team's aspect of the game. Yeah, again, you have 356 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: to talk to the Hall of Fame people about that. 357 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: It's not really you never don't really know enough error. 358 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean I did it that one year and that 359 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: was really for the players who weren't in it. So 360 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: the current feeling and voting process not really something I'm 361 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: familiar with. That's something for the Hall of Fame voters 362 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,239 Speaker 1: and Hall of Fame you should talk for them. All right, 363 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: we'll quick Following two. I was wondering, do you monitor 364 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: all the additions around your division, playing them six times 365 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: and teams around you've done some adding and the personnel 366 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: they add. Do you try and respond at all to 367 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: say the speed of Miami that they've added. Well, yeah, eventually, sure, 368 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: but it's not like you go, you gonna get a 369 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: fast guy now you do well, I mean it's like 370 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: it changes day to day. It put change day to day. So, um, 371 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, we have a draft coming up. They'll be 372 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: other players added there. So you know, I think you've 373 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time doing that. Now it's there's 374 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of changes. I'm not really sure. 375 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: I think you're probably better off waiting until the majority 376 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: of the change has been made, and see you can 377 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: kind of get the full picture and then figure out, 378 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, what, if anything, you want to how you 379 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: want to address it. But I mean, obviously where Tyreek Hill, 380 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: But I mean there's you know, there were other things 381 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: that happened down there before they signed Hill. So trading 382 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: for Hill. How important they sent pro day circuit for 383 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: you and how much you does it help? Just seeing 384 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: guys in person and getting it my hands off looking 385 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: at them, I guess, yeah, that's always good. Um, you know, 386 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: it's we have there's a lot of pro days obviously, 387 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: is players all over the place. We have a lot 388 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: of people doing that, and so it's really pulling all 389 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: the information together. I mean I see a fraction of them, 390 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: but you know, when I go to school like Georgia Alabama, 391 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: you can knock out a pretty good chunk of guys 392 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: right there. So those are productive trips. But um, and 393 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: other schools as well. I mean it's the same. But 394 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: that's you know, we have a lot of people doing it, 395 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: and that's you know, it's part of the process. It's 396 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: part of the process. It's not to all of it, 397 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: but it's part of it. Matthew and Devin and James 398 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: and Juwanda is back to you know, all captains have 399 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: been captains. Why is it so important to bring back 400 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: that leadership ability from one year to the next. For you, Oh, 401 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: we bring out the players that we can work things 402 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: out with. You know, takes two people to have an agreement, 403 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: and when we can do that, that's great. It's great 404 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: for the team and the great for hopefully the individual players. 405 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: So that's that's not a one It's not just our decision. 406 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: It's a collective decision between the player and the and 407 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: the team. Other than you know, a franchise tag or 408 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: an RFA designation, I mean, those are different, but all 409 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: the rest of them are their joint decisions. They're not singular. 410 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: But is there something to the leadership quotient that you know, 411 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: that fruit of guys brings to your team that is 412 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: critical in your mind? Yeah, it's it's it definitely important. 413 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: It's part of the value that they have. But you know, 414 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: eventually some of those players aren't going to be there, 415 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: just like some of the great players in the past, 416 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: whether it be you know, Teddy Bruski and Logan Mankins, 417 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: and I mean you're right down the line. You know, 418 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: William mc ginnis and Vince Wolfork and those guys, Grod 419 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: Mayo and those guys all multiple year captains to Troy Brown, 420 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: and there's eventually there's somebody else. So it's great when 421 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: you have them, but I mean, we all know it's 422 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: not gonna last forever, and other leaders need to develop. 423 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: And these guys all stepped in for somebody before them, 424 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: and somebody will step in for them at some point 425 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: in the future. That's just it's the NFL. Do you 426 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: feel like you've a good young core of the guys 427 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: that might step into those kinds of roles moving forward? 428 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: I hope so, yeah, I think macke'll step into those 429 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: roles eventually. Um um, start with that. Joant Bentley. I mean, 430 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: that's I don't think anybody's talking about him three or 431 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: four years ago. That's how it develops. You said the 432 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: day after the Mills lost, Now you need to determine 433 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: if that was a bad day at the office or 434 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: who you were. Where did you ultimately once you be 435 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: alive this season, where did you come down on that? Yeah, again, 436 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: we really spent a lot of time focusing on the 437 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: next season and Um, so that's that's really where most 438 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: of our attention has gone, is trying to put the 439 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: best team on the field we can in twenty twenty two. 440 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: You think we need to you know, we reviewed every 441 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 1: thing that happened into twenty one season, which we did, 442 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: and but more importantly it's about moving ahead. So some 443 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: of those players that played in that game on both teams, 444 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: a lot of them are backed and some of them 445 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: aren't backed, And there'll be some new players on both sides, 446 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: whether we played them Miami, the Jets, or whoever it 447 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: is again, so I probably think more about twenty two 448 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: than twenty one. Speaking about camera Groan, what can you 449 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: tell us about where us physically? Do you expect him 450 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: to be fully go for training camp and things like 451 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: that offseason, full off season, fully practice or three weeks 452 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: last season? Yeah? I mean you know he's he's ready 453 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: to go full out compete practice for two weeks last season, right, 454 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: but we never sung, so we didn't know if you 455 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: shut him down or what do Yeah, Well, we wouldn't 456 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: have practice him if he wasn't ready to practice. You've 457 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: had Maneutrician out for a year of back in New England. 458 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: What sort of resource. Has he been for you? Great? 459 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: She's been awesome. What what I'm from detroits. I'm just 460 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: trying to understand it a little bit, like what do 461 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: you do? Hey, we talk about that like for the 462 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: last five minutes. So okay, all think Bill, I will 463 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: talk to Alc grow still has the shovel, by the way. 464 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew that big and deep. 465 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: He's still digging. Um. And when he was talking about Matt, 466 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: he said, Matt wanted to end up going in the 467 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: family business, right because Mike's coaching and Alice coaching. I'm 468 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: always curious to your perspective with Amanda coaching lacrosse and 469 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: the boys with you, Like how did you navigate that? 470 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: Like did they always want to do that? And what 471 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: is your thoughts on all of them? And what you'd say, 472 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: maybe is the family business for you guys too? Yeah, 473 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: you'd have to talk about them, each of them, about 474 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: how they're when they wanted to do what and all that. 475 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I remember, uh, you know when 476 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: I was in New York and um, you know, Matt 477 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: would come over work out with al and and uh 478 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: sometimes Mike was there and you know, throw he was 479 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: obviously a quarterback. Later Princeton was a shamanad so you know, 480 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: come over and and throw you know, before and after 481 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: practice and sometimes did some drills out there for us 482 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. So you know, it's always 483 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time around football. It's impressive. You know, 484 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: Kyle O'Brien did that too. Uh when his dad, you know, 485 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: Steve Um was at the Giants that and he was 486 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: a long Island guy. So you know, we've always had 487 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: people like that Um, you know around and and uh 488 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: so you know, I know him not a long time 489 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: and you know, very much of a football family there, 490 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: and I guess we fall in that category too. Guy. Uh, 491 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: A quick one about Josh McDaniels. He's been very choosy 492 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: over the years, uh about head coaching jobs. He finally 493 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: takes one. How happy are you for him? How do 494 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: you think we'll do? And any issue with him taking 495 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of people over to be it's with him? Yeah, No, 496 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean Josh's a great coach and uh, you know, 497 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure that he feels like it's a great opportunity. 498 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: That's why he took it. Other than against us, you know, 499 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: I hope he does well. Sure he will do well. 500 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: And he's outstanding coach. And yeah, some of the people 501 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: that are with him are you know, they're very good too. Um, 502 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, it all worked out. Um well, I mean 503 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: it's an opportunity we couldn't provide and and uh, you know, 504 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: it'll be hard to replace. But like I said, I 505 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: feel like we have really good coaches on our staff 506 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: and so we'll do all right. All right, thank you,