1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: This is another edition of Football Today. Some breaking news 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: on Sunday night, we had heard rumblings about it that 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals were making a lot of contractual progress with 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: their outstanding wide receiving corps. Well they finished that up. 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase gets four years, one hundred and forty one 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: hundred what is it, one hundred and sixty one million 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: dollars yep one six one wow. T Higgins four for 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: one point fifteen. Of course he was headed into the 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: being a franchise tagged for the second straight year. So 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow gets his wish. He wanted to keep the 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: entire crew together. That's exactly what is happening. Bobby Skinner. 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Is this the right way for the Bengals to do business? 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. There's not even a doubt in my mind. 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: And it looks like they're going to get something done 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 2: with Trey Hendrickson. And I do want to there's criticism 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: I have for the Bengals on how all this went 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 2: down in the long run, but the idea like, oh man, 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: they're going to pay a wide receiver to that much 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: and this guy at this top position. They are a 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: team despite the fact that they have these big hopes 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: every year that doesn't have people that they need to 22 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: pay upcoming right. I think we always forget about this, like, oh, 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: do we pay a wide receiver too this much or 24 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: that much? 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: Right? 26 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: And we've had this conversation in Giantslin because we don't 27 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: have to pay many guys and or you don't want 28 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: to pay a safety this much. Well, who do you 29 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: have coming down the pipe? They don't really, They don't 30 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: really have anybody, you know that's they've drafted recently that's 31 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: going to get this big contract. Cam Taylor Britt probably 32 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: will get a decent one, but I'd sacrifice him for 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: you know, any of those guys. Dax Hill has been 34 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: so so Nobody from the twenty twenty three class looks 35 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: worthy of a decent payday yet, and the twenty twenty 36 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: four class, you don't judge it right now. But guess what, 37 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: the Rams know they have to pay somebody pay people 38 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: from their draft class. The Bengals don't yet, so they 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: don't have any you know, big time players coming up. 40 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: They should have got this done. This is their best 41 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: chance to win is to have that sustainability on offense, right, 42 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: They need to get a better defense. They need to 43 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: get a better run game, which we'll talk about. They 44 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: actually have tried to, but creating more issues was not 45 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: the answer for the Bengals. 46 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with Bobby. I mean, I think there are 47 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: splits with and without T. Higgins, and I think just 48 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 3: use the eye test to not even stats. I think 49 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: they are a different team without without T. Higgins. So 50 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: I mean even this year, I'm just playing twelve games. 51 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: I mean, if he played, if he played even sixteen 52 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: fifteen games, he gets over one hundred catches, he gets 53 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: over at a thousand yards safely. Safely, he gets over 54 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: those numbers, which is just bonkers. I mean. And this 55 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: is how when you have Joe Burrow, and Joe Burrow 56 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: has played the way that he's played the last two years. 57 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: Once he's been fully healthy and he gets out of 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: the disaster that is the month of September for him, 59 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 3: he plays like an MVP quarterback. In the identity of 60 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: this team and why they're why they have a shot 61 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: in any given game is because they have T Higgins, 62 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow. That's the identity of your team. 63 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: Keep it and like Bobby said, I mean down the pipeline. 64 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: I mean next year, they have one hundred and forty 65 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: million dollars in cap space, not reflecting any of the 66 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: deals that were just signed, reflecting a Trey Heundrickson extension 67 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: or anything like that. But even in the midst of 68 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: we're waiting for those cap pits and those future cap 69 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: pits to hit. Sign these guys. This is the identity 70 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: of your team. There's nothing that's holding you back from 71 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: doing this. 72 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: Okay, let me play the other side of this. You 73 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: could have probably traded Higgins right. There wasn't a lot 74 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: of wide receiver movement that made you go, WHOA, that's great. 75 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: They probably could have gotten a draft pick for him, 76 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: and then they probably could have brought in defensive players 77 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: that would have helped them on the free agent market. 78 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: They did not do that. They brought in TJ on 79 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: the defensive line, solid rotational piece I think in out 80 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: of Green Bay. But he's not a guy where you're like, 81 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: people will have to really look up TJ. Slayton in 82 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: order to know who he is. They brought in Owen 83 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Burkes to replaim to replace a Keem Davis Gaither at linebacker. 84 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what the future holds for Jermaine Pratt, 85 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: who said, I'm I think that he'll go. I mean 86 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: he led the team I think in misstackles a year ago. 87 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: How about the future being better play for Jermaine Pratt. 88 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine, but he's not the only reason that 89 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: they stunk last year on defense. And we can all say, okay, well, 90 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: lou Anarumo is it and he was the problem. So 91 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: we'll send him to Indianapolis and we'll bring in Al 92 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: Golden who they literally is trying to live up to 93 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: his name as the Golden Child. I think they're relying 94 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: on his ability to kind of tie this whole thing 95 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: together because they have to get better on that side 96 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: of the football, guys or else. This doesn't this doesn't 97 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: make sense. They go out and score more than twenty 98 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: five points every game. It seems like they did it 99 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: eleven times last year. What do you think their record 100 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: was in games where they scored at least twenty five points? 101 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: Give me a guess. 102 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: Do you have the number? 103 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: I do, just guess off the top of your head. 104 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: Six and ten, Actually six and six and eight. How 105 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: about that? 106 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: Hold on, I don't know if I said eleven games, 107 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: they did it that they're teaching you. 108 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: I'm surprised that they only had that many. They were 109 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: one of the best. I'll say, how about that. 110 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say six and five. I'm gonna say closer 111 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 3: to five hundred and hope that it's the answer. 112 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Five and six is the right answer. So they won 113 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: forty five percent of the games in which they scored 114 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: at least twenty five points the league average. If you 115 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: score at least twenty five you win more than eighty 116 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: percent of the time. Wow, the Bengals, come on, guys, this. 117 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: Is Here's the thing is they keep keep the great 118 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: thing great is what they should do. Yeah, they need 119 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: here's like they need to get They need to start 120 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: hitting on those defensive draft picks, right. You know they've 121 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: they've had ten top one hundred draft picks over the 122 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: last three years. Eight of them have been defense, all 123 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: from the front in DBS, not even in any linebackers 124 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: in there. You need Logan Wilson and Jermaine Pratt to 125 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: play better. But again, I don't think they could have. 126 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: They could have still done that, right if you want 127 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: to criticize them on doing that, they still could have 128 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 2: went out and got some more defensive pieces, but I 129 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: would not I would not mess with what is a 130 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: top five offense in the NFL to try and can 131 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: plug in a bunch of holes through free agency. 132 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: On defense, yeah, making the thirtieth defense the twentieth defense, 133 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 134 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: But maybe the twentieth defense is the difference between watching 135 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs at home and being a pain in the 136 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: ass to the Buffalo Bills in round one, which is 137 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: what we all we were all begging for it as 138 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: football fans. We're like, oh, please, let's see the Bengals 139 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: make it, and then we were all kind of bummed 140 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: out when the Broncos made it as the team. Listen, 141 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: here's I'm just focused on the top three rounds. I 142 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: think anytime you get a guy who becomes kind of 143 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: a four down, good for you, Like that's a diamond 144 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: in the roup in my opinion. But top three rounds 145 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: is where you really have to live to keep your 146 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: team healthy year in and year out. Here's the defensive 147 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: players they have drafted in the first three rounds over 148 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: the last several years. Chris Jenkins and McKinley Jackson. From 149 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: last year, Jackson didn't play, he was injured Jenkins flashed 150 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: at times. The year before their first rounder was Miles Murphy, 151 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: Dj Turner's coming off an injury, Jordan a year before that, 152 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: it was Dax Hill Cam Taylor Britt who at times 153 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: we thought was gonna like jump off the page and 154 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: be great, and then there were times where he looked horrible. 155 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: Joseph Asai, his most famous plays pushing Patrick Mahomes late. 156 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Logan Wilson is the guy you have to go back 157 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: to in twenty twenty to feel like they found a 158 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: guy in the top three rounds as a defensive player 159 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: that can be a solid every down contributor at this level. 160 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: That now, and. 161 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: They've drafted a lot too. 162 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: They have, they've taken their swing. So either Duke Tobin 163 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: ain't the guy who should be making the picks, or 164 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: you're really relying. You're relying once again on the draft. 165 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: They don't even have that many picks. They've got six 166 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: pieces coming up in the draft, so you're trying to 167 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: fix that side of the football to make them a 168 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: super Bowl contender. What was the reason they went to 169 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Super Bowl fifty six, It's because Anna 170 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: Rumo's defense played off the charts in the playoffs. I 171 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: don't see that happening with this team. 172 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: Sure, but what they what is going to keep sustaining 173 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: them until that defense does get better, is the fact 174 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: that they have this type of offense, right, Like, when 175 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: you have Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, T Higgins for the 176 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: next four years, they should have a top five offense, right, 177 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: so you hope that you get within that time, Like, yeah, 178 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: could they have let go of T Higgins and you know, 179 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: went all in for this year to add you know, 180 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: more in free agency, but I think keeping uh, you 181 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: know Burrow obviously Burrow, but just Chase was an obvious one. 182 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: But at keeping Higgins part of that keeps you a 183 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: top five offense through the next four years and allows 184 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: you to hopefully build that defense. Obviously it's a lot 185 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: easier said than done, but I think that's that where 186 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: the Bengals are mess up is not getting these contracts 187 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: done earlier. You know. Now, maybe Jamar Chase didn't want to, 188 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: but it would have been nice to get that deal 189 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: done last year. Give them the same deal as justin Jefferson, 190 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: you say, five mil per year T Higgins playing around 191 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: on that contract for like, that's the one where you 192 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: can say this is this is a joke that they've 193 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: played around. He's now the ninth highest paid wide receiver. 194 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: You know, you look at the receivers who are in 195 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: his tier last year, Nico Collins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Pittman. 196 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: Those guys got like twenty three per year last year 197 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: and he's never hit eleven hundred yards in his career. 198 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: So there's an extra ten million per year that they 199 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: could have, you know, used to add some defensive pieces. 200 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but ten million dollars that goes quick. I mean 201 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: you could have for T higgins contract, which is one 202 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen million dollars, you could have gotten Josh 203 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: Sweat for seventy five and gotten another good player for 204 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, fifty. It's it's a little bit more, obviously 205 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: than what T Higgins has worth. But that's my You 206 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: have been whiffing this much every time you step up 207 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: to the plate in the draft. Go get it in 208 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: free agency. Get guys who have been proven at this 209 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: level and have done it. 210 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: I would not want to mess with the best. You 211 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: know what we I predicted be you know, a top 212 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 2: three offense of the next four years for Josh Swat Okay. 213 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: I mean there's there's three guys on the Bengals last year. 214 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: I mean Mike Gaseeki had sixty five catches. So three guys, Kaseckie, 215 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: Higgins and Chase that over sixty five catches and all 216 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 3: three of them have a success rate on Pro Football 217 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: Reference of over sixty percent. I mean that that's unheard 218 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: of to have gays. 219 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: Where did they get them? Justin? It got given. 220 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: They got them an offense where Row watch, I get it. 221 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: I get it, Rose, I get it. And you know, hey, 222 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: it's like you look at all these one score games 223 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: and it's like they've lost to the Ravens thirty eight 224 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: to forty one. They lod forty one points, they let 225 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: forty four points to the freaking Pittsburgh Steelers, thirty four 226 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: points to the to the Chargers thirty five points. They 227 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 3: lost by one point to the Ravens in their second matchup. 228 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: Now what I what I think they need to do, 229 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 3: you know, outside of defense, And they have a guard 230 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: problem too. They have a really you know, in tier 231 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: offensive line in their in their two guards haven't even 232 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: gotten to that. So there are issues. But I think Burrow, 233 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: Higgins and Chase can elevate a lot of people. And 234 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: even though they got Chase Brown, a dynamic runner out 235 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: neither here or there. They need everybody to lock in 236 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: the month of December because outside you know, from that 237 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: October sixth game on onward, which that October sixth game 238 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: was the Baltimore Raven game where they lost thirty eight 239 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: to forty one in oh September. But yeah, they need 240 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: to lock in September. What do I say, October Septembember. No, 241 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: they need They have been locked in in December. They 242 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: need to lock in the month of September because they 243 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: went oh and three and then every game from that 244 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: October sixth game they finished the season eight and four. 245 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: And I feel like that's been an every year problem. 246 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: And two years ago it was Burrow who got the 247 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 3: season and injury just when it looked like they were 248 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: heating up. Now that everybody is we can stop subtweeting, 249 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: We can stop like everybody is paid. Get get Trey 250 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: Hendrickson done, pay your stars. Everybody can lock in during 251 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: training camp. Everybody can do what they gotta do. Nobody 252 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: can has to worry about their future or fear of 253 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: injury or franchise tager, nothing man, everybody, lock in, everybody 254 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: get on the same page. Win in the month of September, 255 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: and that'll make the Cincinnati Bengals job a hell of 256 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: a lot easier throughout the regular season, even if their 257 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 3: defense is bottom quarter in the league. 258 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: Okay, well, we'll see, we'll see if it all works out. 259 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: By the way, don't ever say a final score again, 260 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: thirty eight to forty one. 261 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: Forty one to thirty eight. 262 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, please, sorry, I'm reading. 263 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: It off for profile bar offerens that are always lists 264 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: the team first and then the opponent next. 265 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: Don't ever do that again. Though the Athletic is reporting 266 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: they had a really, really good column led by Michael Silver, 267 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: who obviously has very good connections with Aaron Rodgers, that 268 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: he wants to play for the Vikings, and that the 269 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: Vikings are kind of split, that it's fifty to fifty, 270 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: and that if Rogers doesn't play for the Vikings that 271 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: he is seriously considering retirement. Where do you sit with this? 272 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: We talked a little bit last week about whether or 273 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: not the Vikings should because they are built to win. 274 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: Right now, go get a guy who's a four time MVP, Bobby. 275 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: I mean, we touched about this a little bit of Friday. 276 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: If I were the Vikings gym, I would go get 277 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, but we didn't. Let's forget like some of 278 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: the on fields, like just the on the field play 279 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: because I don't think Aaron Rodgers was great last year. 280 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: You know, you're talking about how he finished strong, because 281 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: last game of season was terrible. Do you mess with 282 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: what like they have going on in Minnesota, which is 283 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: a culture of winning, but a good culture, and let 284 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers kind of, you know, let him, let him 285 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: in the henhouse. 286 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: Okay, But so what is it that we think would 287 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: happen in Minnesota. I understand what transpired in New York 288 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: with the Jets, but that is an fed up team 289 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: that has the longest playoff drout going in the NFL. 290 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: They are desperate. They are desperate on so many levels 291 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: to want to be loved in New York City, to 292 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: not like they're the second team behind the Giants, to 293 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: want to get back to the playoffs, to find a 294 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: decent quarterback. They have a lot that where they're like, 295 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: Minnesota is not that situation. So what is it that 296 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: we're worried about exactly with Aaron that he's going to 297 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: roll his eyes at receivers like Tom Brady does that. 298 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 299 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: I just think the Jets thing went like historically bad, 300 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: and I get there's a lot of things at play there, 301 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: but they went really really bad, and it's like it's 302 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: just stuff pops up. I don't know, Like, what would 303 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: you do if you were Rogers. 304 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how he feels. I can't imagine. I 305 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: feel shitty at my age and I don't get chased 306 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: by three hundred and twenty pound defensive linemen. So I 307 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: don't know how he feels. And it is a long season. 308 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: But I look at that team and say, God, dang man, 309 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: and that play caller I would say, and those receivers 310 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: in particular, and the way they've built up the interior 311 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: of the offensive line through free agency at least taking 312 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: good swings. I think, like I'm in, I am in. 313 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: I think we're so far on the point where if 314 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: the Vikings wanted to be in on Rodgers, wouldn't they 315 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: be on it? 316 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: Be in on it? Well, I don't know. I don't 317 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: know if we know whether they are aren't. I mean, 318 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: the Athletic article said that there are people in the 319 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: building that are extremely split on this whole thing. But 320 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: once again, we talked about turning the keys over to 321 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: an unproven kid who's coming off a knee injury and 322 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: had a ton of question marks coming into the NFL. Anyway, Yeah, 323 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: don't we all agree that Aaron Rodgers would be a 324 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: better quarterback for them just in twenty twenty five than 325 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Bobby, can't we all agree on that? Not all? 326 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: I can, because I didn't. I didn't think JJ McCarthy 327 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: was was worthy of that pick. But if you think 328 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy is worthy of that pick, you should think 329 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: he's better than what anwered like, Aaron Rodgers was not 330 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: good last year. I think he's the best quarterback available 331 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: in free agency, but like, he wasn't a top ten 332 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: quarterback or close to a top ten quarterback last year. Right, 333 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: even there, you know the good games, there's a lot 334 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: of stuff left on the field. But now he could 335 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: still spin it. He's still got the mind that he does. 336 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: But and hopefully, you know, another year off, the injury 337 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: is better, but it could be, it could be worse. 338 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: You know, he's forty one years old. Again, I just 339 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: I cannot wrap my head around a team trading up 340 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: for a quarterback in the first round and then in 341 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: year two with the easiest landing spot ever being like, yeah, 342 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: we're passing that up for a forty one year old 343 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: QB who wasn't good last year. Like again, if Aaron 344 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: Rodgers was coming off, if this is Aaron Rodgers two 345 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: years ago, be like, hey, you're getting a guy that's, 346 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: you know, one year removed from an MVP. We're three 347 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: years removed from Aaron Rodgers playing good football in the 348 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: NFL like Aaron like top ten quarterback level football. 349 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: So I suppose the question is can he play at 350 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: the level that Sam Darnold did last year? Yeah? Minnesota okay, 351 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: so probably better? 352 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: Probably better again, I think that, But if if like 353 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: they should have that, that that should be the same 354 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: evaluation for JJ McCarthy, And I think it is for 355 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: a lot of people in the building, probably the GMS 356 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: more so than the head coach. But like, that's that's 357 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: why they let Sam Donald walk, was because you know, 358 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: they thought JJ McCarthy could do better than him. 359 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: M hm okay, So who thinks that he's going to 360 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: be a Minnesota Viking? Anybody here? No, I don't Pennick. 361 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: No, and I still think that. I think that Rogers 362 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 3: is going to be a Pittsburgh Still. 363 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: How many more conversations can the Minnesota Vikings have before 364 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: offering a contract. 365 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I don't think it, 366 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: but I really want to see it. I do. I think. 367 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: I think it would be fun. And I love Kevin O'Connell. 368 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: He's my coaching crush. I'm a huge fan of his. 369 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: I want to see it. 370 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: Oh, we just need a Brett far of prophecy to 371 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: be which he should wear number four. 372 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 3: I was just about to say he should wear number 373 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 3: four too. 374 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: MVP level season with the Vikings after failure with the Jets, 375 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: Like again, he would he would be like I think 376 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: in that offense, he'd you know, have thirty two touchdowns, 377 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: five interceptions and get like MVP talk. 378 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: Nick Mullins left for Jacksonville. So I think number twelve 379 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: is available, Okay, h yeah, okay. So the Falcons keep 380 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: saying they're gonna pay Kirk Cousins that ten million dollars 381 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: roster bonus that he's due today, I'd be happy to 382 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: have him in the building, even though he is clearly 383 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: the backup Michael it is Michael Penix's job. Are we 384 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: buying all of that statement? 385 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: Well, Kirk's not gonna be happy. I think the Falcons 386 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: if this was you know, Madden and these people that 387 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: have personalities, I like I would keep Kirk there too, 388 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: to have him in the building and helping with game 389 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: plan and having a you know, you know, somebody that 390 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 2: Mike Pennis can can talk to and ask questions, especially, 391 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: you know, because they're both you know, in that quarterback 392 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 2: who or mobile. But in reality, I don't I don't 393 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: see how Kirk Cousins is happy at all being there. 394 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: He's not, I mean has he hasn't been happy there 395 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: since you know, April last year, the. 396 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: Month after he signed the contract. I think he's staying 397 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: because unless, unless, the unless, the Falcons are gonna buckle 398 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: up and just eat the majority of that contract and 399 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 3: then allow a team like the Browns the Titans, who 400 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: could still take cam Warden have Kirk Cousins as the 401 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: veteran backup for like a six round pick. I don't 402 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: think Kirk Cousins is going anywhere. I mean, the contract 403 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: is just absurd, seventy five million in dead money, and 404 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: if they were, let's just say, if they were to 405 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 3: cut him, and I guess this would be the same 406 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: thing for releasing him too, seventy a trading him as well, 407 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: seventy five million in dead money, and then they would 408 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 3: oh thirty five million against the cap for the cap savings, 409 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: it would put them in the red thirty five million. 410 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 3: So I mean, there's just there's no team that is 411 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 3: going to want like, Okay, you have to take the 412 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 3: money and I'll give you a six round pick. But 413 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: that's it. There's going to be no team that's going 414 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: to want to take anything, or you just release him 415 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: if you don't want him that bad. So that's why 416 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: I think they're going. 417 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: To keep them. Well, they're definitely not releasing him because 418 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: the wouldn't pay him a ten million dollar roster bonus 419 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 1: to then release him. So that is off the table. 420 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: Let's play the trade game. And first of all, I 421 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: want to say, why they don't want him in the building. Now, 422 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: we heard that the day that Penni's got the job 423 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: as the starter, that Kirk Cousins was like the first 424 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: guy to call him and be like, hey, listen, I 425 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: am with you. That is part of my job. He's 426 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: a good veteran. We've heard of bad veterans. He is 427 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: a good veteran, so I'm not worried about him being 428 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: a malcontent in the building. Like, if you're to line 429 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: up all the guys in the NFL and say who's 430 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: the least guy who's going to be a problem, Kirk 431 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: Cousins is in the bottom five most likely. But the 432 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: Falcons don't want a guy who they're paying one hundred 433 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: million dollars to to be there just in case Michael 434 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: Pennock struggles the first month, because you know what everybody's 435 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: going to be talking about, Well, why aren't you giving 436 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: kirk Cousins another shot? He wasn't healthy last year. We've 437 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: seen what he can do at a high level. Why 438 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: don't you play him like? That's the last thing the 439 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: Falcons need to deal with. So now we get to 440 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: the business side of this. Nobody in their right mind 441 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: is going to trade for kirk Cousins full contract. But 442 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: would you be willing to say, kirk Cousins ten million 443 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: this year of the twenty seven that he's owed from 444 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: the Falcons, and sure, I'll give a fifth, fifth round pick, 445 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: because why not? Would don't you don't think that's some 446 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: needy team. We know that there's the Browns, the Titans, 447 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: the Giants, this unit. 448 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: Would you, mister Cleveland Brown, would you because that's the 449 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: team that there's the only smoke I've I've seen with 450 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: with Kirk Cousins. 451 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: I think I would pay. I think I would pay 452 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: ten million dollars and probably a sixth round pick. I 453 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to give up the picks, but just to 454 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: do it. Either that or we'll talk about the Browns 455 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: quarterback situation. 456 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: I say that I can transition do so. Would you 457 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: would you give up a six round pick and pay 458 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: ten million to have Kirk Cousins Kenny pick in the 459 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: shad door standers? 460 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, before we get to that, let 461 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: me let me do this because it all ties in. 462 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett had his reinchentry press conference, which was a 463 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: weird thing. I don't know if you guys saw it. 464 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: The Browns put up like these dinosaurs up on the dais. 465 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: You know, they treat it like it was a free 466 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: agent signing instead of an extension. But I think because 467 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: of the media tour that Miles went on, well tour 468 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: or blowtorch, whatever you want to say, at the Super 469 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: Bowl that they had him meet the press on Friday. 470 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: Then he sat down with my buddy Andrew Ceciliano, who's 471 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: now the Browns radio play by play guy, and they 472 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: talked about the quarterback situation in all serious is do 473 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: you know who the quarterback is going to be? I mean, 474 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: do you have an idea? After conversations, I do have 475 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: an idea. Okay, do you like the idea? 476 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: I like it enough to to uh be here smiling 477 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 2: in front of you because I think we have a 478 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: good chance of that happening and making the most out 479 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: of it. 480 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: Can you tell us who it is? Miles? You know 481 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: I can't do that, Okay, So Miles, they told Miles 482 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: something what I. 483 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: I don't pay attention to any pre draft smoke, right 484 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: unless it's like clear the ten that's going first, right, 485 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: like this whole Titans thing, like we're not going to 486 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: pass on an elite player at one, and then all 487 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: the trade smoke out of the combine now looks like 488 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 2: they're going like I just I just don't pay attention 489 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: to that, and especially anything that comes from a player's 490 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: mouth because they don't know. That was the first time 491 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: I've ever been like oh what, Like he knows right, 492 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: and he's not smoked, Like, why would Miles Garrett be 493 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: smoke screening with that? 494 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: Like what? What? What was that? 495 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: Like, I I'm I'm I'm baffled. Did he just tell 496 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: us the Browns are going to take Shad or Sanders 497 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: or cam Ward at. 498 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: Picked two or one? 499 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 2: Or did he say did he not want to say 500 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 2: that he didn't know about the quarterback plan and then 501 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 2: realized he was in too deep, so he said, yeah, 502 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: it's something I like because he wanted to try and 503 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: not be like, actually, they didn't tell me anything. They 504 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 2: just gave me forty million dollars per year. 505 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: Well, whatever it was, he was in lockstep with the 506 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: organization because that was on the team website that was 507 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: put out by the team. That is an interview that 508 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: was done by the franchise. So whatever it is, they're 509 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: all in agreement on it. I don't know. Did you 510 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: did you find it interesting panic or not? 511 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? In my brain, cam Ward is a Tennessee Titan 512 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: until I improven. Otherwise, whether that's the first night of 513 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 3: April or you know, the draft night in April on Thursday, 514 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: or it's a trade a the Brown's trade up, the 515 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 3: Giants trade up. So cam Ward is a Tennessee Titan, 516 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: especially based on what they did in Freanancy. Did Russell 517 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 3: Wilson visit the Browns last week Thursday? I think that is. 518 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 3: I honestly, while the Steelers and the Giants are twiddling 519 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: their thumbs waiting over egotistical Aaron Rodgers, Cleveland brown should 520 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: go and sign Russell Wilson, And I think that is 521 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: the I think that is the signing and the guy 522 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 3: that makes the most sense. If you don't believe, Hey, 523 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 3: if the Browns really like cam Ward. But again, in 524 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: my head, cam Ward is a Tennessee Titans, is a 525 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 3: Tennessee Titan. But I don't know if you really like 526 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: Sure Sanders, I don't know if that's if that's the 527 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: guy that you want to pair with whoever, or as 528 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: we're you know, we're waiting to get that the sewing 529 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 3: money out out the building and out the door, I 530 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 3: think Russell Wilson is the guy that makes the most 531 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: sense to bring in and try and bring some sort 532 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 3: of stability that the Browns are desperate for without taking 533 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: a desperate swing at a quarterback that probably probably won't 534 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 3: be very good in should Sanders. 535 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: So do you think paying let's say, let's say Russell 536 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: Wilson and Kirk Cousins financially are about the same. You 537 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: don't think that Kevin Stefanski would rather say, hey, let's 538 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: trade a sixth round pick for Kirk Cousins. I know 539 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: what I have here? 540 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: Oh no, I would. 541 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: I would much prefer Russ ver Kirk and. 542 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: Had success with Kirk before. 543 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: Yes, point right, that's the point. 544 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: And like the only team I can see wanting Kirk 545 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: over Russ, I guess not the only there's a couple 546 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: of other teams that run similar offenses. 547 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: And getting back to the Falcons standpoint, they want a 548 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: draft pick. They've got three picks in the first six rounds, 549 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: that is it. They've got two seventh rounders that ain't 550 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 1: gonna help you. So they need to get better and 551 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: they need to continue to put pieces on both sides 552 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: of the football for Michael Pennix. They have no money, 553 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: nobody then that's why the draft picks are even more valuable. Yes, 554 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: so go do that. And if you can save a 555 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: little bit of you know, jump change on Kirk Cousins, 556 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: so be it. I think they're forced to trade him 557 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: and what they're begging for is that Aaron Rodgers retires, 558 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: because that means that there's one less veteran out there 559 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: that's signed with a team, and so somebody else is 560 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: getting desperate. 561 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: I'm almost rooting for the Rogers retirement at this point, 562 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: just to put all these teams in a scurry. I 563 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 2: can I say something else on the Falcons. I never 564 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: want to let it go how much they pissed me 565 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: off with this Cousin's penick thing, right, and then when 566 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: Pennix comes in this year and everyone being like, oh, man, 567 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: I guess they weren't so crazy after all, Yes they are. 568 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 2: They have no draft picks and no money because they 569 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: signed Kirk Cousins. 570 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: Right. 571 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: The argument was never just taking Michael Pennox alone. It 572 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: was like, why did you do both? Why did you 573 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 2: do both? You were picking eighth overall. Do not tell 574 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: me you weren't confident in to get Michael Pennix as 575 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: your quarterback. It just it drives me nuts that like 576 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 2: they've they've put themselves in this crappy situation. 577 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: I get it, I understand it. It was it was 578 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: terribly mismanaged from the standpoint of giving Kirk Cousins one 579 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: hundred million and then picking a quarterback at eight. Nobody 580 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: has a problem. If you want to pick a quarterback 581 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: at eight, nobody does so. But you're right. The way 582 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: this has been done has not been Terry Fontineau in 583 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: the organization's finest moment. I get that. 584 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 2: And they lost a pick because of tampering too from it. 585 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's finish it up with this. This discussion. 586 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: Is Kirk Cousins in Atlanta falcon after the draft? 587 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: No, yeah, I'll say no. I think I think Atlanta 588 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: eventually gets desperate, they eat the majority of the money, 589 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: and they just take a Day three pick. 590 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: I would agree, I say, no, who is the starting quarterback? 591 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: Let's finish it all up with this. Who is the 592 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: starting quarterback in Cleveland? After I'm number one on the 593 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: depth chart? After the draft? 594 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: Curly Kirk, Bobby said, Kirk, don't take sure, don't take Shart, 595 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: don't take suret don't take sure. 596 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: I'll say Russ for chaos, I think cam Ward Oh 597 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: who is the starting quarterback for the New York Giants? 598 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, Well, I just went away from Rusk. I'll say, 599 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: Sir Sanders, Bobby love that. 600 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: Who is the starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Aaron Rodgers, 601 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Mason Rudolph. Who is the starting quarterback for 602 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. J. J. 603 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: McCarthy, I'm very boring in my answers. Yeah, I'm also 604 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: gonna go McCarthy Aaron Rodgers. I want pure chaos. I 605 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: didn't give you guys a giant starter. 606 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: I agree. I think Shdeorge Sanders is your I think 607 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: he's your guy. I think that's where we end up. 608 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: I think that's that's D and E. 609 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: Look at you, Bobby, Are you okay? You look Constanpa. 610 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: It's so much fun. I look forward to every d 611 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: M after a bad game. All right, let's let's let's 612 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: get let's get it rolling. You know what, rookie quarterback, 613 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take advantage of the moment. 614 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: So what does that mean? 615 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: It means I'm gonna break down every single game of film. Baby, 616 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: That's what it means. I'm gonna break down every third down, 617 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna break down every d pats. It means I'm 618 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: gonna break it down. 619 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: All right. We started this show with wide receivers. We're 620 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 1: gonna end it with a wide receiver. Cooper Cup has 621 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: a new home. He is staying in the NFC West 622 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: three years forty fuck to Seattle? Is that a huge overpay? 623 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: Or do we like what they have done offensively with 624 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: changing out wide receivers, you know, trading one, releasing Tyler Lockett, 625 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: trading Geno Smith, bringing in Sam Donald? Are we okay 626 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: with what has transpired here? 627 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: It's a weird room, man, where you've got receivers that 628 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: are you know, a JSN, a Cooper Cup who aren't redundant, 629 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: but you know, similar in alignment. I won't even say role, 630 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: just alignment. Both are like, so you know, has so 631 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: much to do with timing and being on the same 632 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: page with the quarterback, where Sam Donald has been more 633 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: of a you know what, this is what we're running, 634 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw it here. If it's not there, I'll i'll, 635 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: you know, look to extend and make a play. But 636 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 2: I also can't blame them if they're going to bring 637 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: in Sam Donald and then trade away DK and let 638 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: lock it go. They had to bring in somebody else 639 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: in this receiver room that was capable, and so yeah, 640 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: can when we look back at those Cooper Cup contract 641 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: and say this is amazing or whatever. I don't know, 642 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: probably not, but they needed to bring somebody into that 643 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: wide receiver room. I'm more frustrated to the Patriots didn't 644 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: pay on this, right, This is the type of money 645 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: that they should have, you know, spent a little bit 646 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: of reckless toly On is helping your young quarterback and 647 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: Jake May. 648 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they still have like over one hundred million dollars. 649 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 2: Or something that waste a little bit like I got 650 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: not everything needs to be the perfect contract when you 651 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: have when you have that type of cap space, you 652 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 2: don't need the perfect contract. You need to help out 653 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: your young quarterback. 654 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, particularly when you're not going to pay him for 655 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: another two years. So you're right, that would have been 656 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: a great one. As far as Seattle, it feels a 657 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: little bit panic. And I want you to follow up 658 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: on this is that they're rebuilding ish on the fly. 659 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: And yes, they signed Sam Donald to one hundred million 660 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: dollar deal for three years, but if you look at it, 661 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: the reports are according over the cap they can get 662 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: out after one year and thirty seven and a half 663 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: mil where there's no dead money and they're not penalized 664 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: at all. So they can use this as a one 665 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: year litmus test to see if this is a guy 666 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: that has truly grown as an NFL quarterback or he 667 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: was built in a lab by Kevin O'Connell. So they 668 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: can do that for one year. They got younger, they 669 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: got a third round pick. They now have five of 670 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: the top ninety two draft picks because they're the only 671 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: team that's got five in the top one hundred. They 672 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: can fix the interior that offensive line, I think if 673 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: you trust John Schneider's ability to draft interior offensive lineman, 674 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: because I think their running game can be way better. 675 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: They were a bottom five running team and by all metrics, 676 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: depending on which one you want to use, bottom five 677 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: offensive line. So I think that they can get better 678 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: and still be like a nine win team this year 679 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: and figure out if Sam Darnold's the answer. So I 680 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: don't hate what they have done entirely, do you? 681 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: No? 682 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: I don't either. 683 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: You know. 684 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 3: The not someone I think does rebuilding and retooling kind 685 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 3: of era is for the Seattle Seahawks. It's trying to 686 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: fix their lines, both both D line, which I think 687 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 3: their D line and their pass rush is closer than 688 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 3: their O line. But Rose you mentioned it. I mean, 689 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 3: the the only other teams that have five picks inside 690 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: the top one hundred and ten are the Browns, the Jaguars, 691 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: the Patriots, and the Giants. But you mentioned that they're 692 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 3: the only I think they're the only team that have 693 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 3: five picks actually inside the top one hundred and they 694 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 3: have the ninety second pick, But that this is where 695 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 3: they're gonna really in a draft where a lot of 696 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,959 Speaker 3: people are talking about, oh, it's you know, it's very 697 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: you don't really have a lot of the superstars at 698 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 3: the top. It's it's a dual carter. It's Hunter and 699 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 3: then the two quarterbacks and then you know, where else 700 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 3: do you go? Or those guys really work those top 701 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 3: five top ten picks. So they have the eighteenth pick, 702 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: eighteenth pick, but I'm really excited for their fiftieth or 703 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 3: fifty second and there and there and their eighty second picks, 704 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: Like that's where I think, you know what, they're really 705 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: gonna need to hit on one or two of those 706 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: guys in particularly hopefully one of them is an offensive 707 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 3: alignment for them to really set them up in a 708 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 3: good direction. But it almost feels like what the Commanders 709 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 3: did last year. You know they brought in a guy 710 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: like DeMarcus Lawrence. You know, you bring in Cooper Cup. 711 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: It's like, all right, these guys are a little bit older, 712 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 3: but you're bringing him in here for a certain reason 713 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 3: for veteran leadership, and the also give you a little 714 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 3: bit of a boost and play while you're retooling. Just 715 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 3: the only difference between when teams try to replicate what 716 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 3: the commanders said last year is the Commander's capped it 717 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: off with Jiden Daniels. Odds are the Seahawks aren't going 718 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 3: to be getting that performance out of Sam Donald. They 719 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: could still be good, but it won't be like that. 720 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. They need to add more young offensive 721 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 2: pieces to this team, is the reality of it. I mean, 722 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: I think that they've drafted that they feel good about 723 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 2: it is probably just Jans and Charles Cross, you know, 724 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: that's it, right, There's some other younger offensive lineman who 725 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 2: can grow and develop. Christian Haynes when they drafted in 726 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: the third round last year as a guy I was 727 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 2: a fan of. But they need young offensive pieces. I 728 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 2: think the defense is talented. It maybe lacks a little 729 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: bit of star power, but it is talented. They need 730 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: young offensive pieces added to this team for the long haul. 731 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're gonna be an team to watch. 732 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: I think in two years if they nail this draft, 733 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: they could be as long as Sam dar is still 734 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: the guy, because if not, then they got to figure 735 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 1: out where they go a quarterback next year. And that's 736 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: that's tough, tough run if you have having to do that, 737 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: but it sounds like financially they can without penalty. 738 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 2: I have one more thing, just in case I've wanted 739 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 2: to get this out there for any Seahawks fans, lootening. 740 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 2: I did a film breakdown on their backup offensive tackle 741 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: Stone Forceyth. The Giants added they should have an upgraded 742 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. I had never been so mad at an 743 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. They just leave these these shitty tackles on 744 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 2: an island all game long. They don't run the ball 745 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: at all. It was the most reckless offense I've ever seen. 746 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: No wonder Ryan Grubb went back to college at Alabama. 747 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: But anyways, I just wanted to get that off my chest. 748 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm sorry you had to deal with, you know, leaving 749 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 2: a second string tackle on an island all game one. 750 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: All right, So for Bobby Skinner and Justin Pennock and 751 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: producer Connor. I am Chris Rose. We will see later 752 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: this week here on Football Today.