WEBVTT - #616 Packers Unscripted: Commanding win 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:10.880 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.280 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:16.919 by my trusted colleague West Hodkoitz. We're coming to you 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.880 here from our studios at lambeau Field West. Week four 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:22.840 is in the books for the Packers, and it was 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.639 a seventeen victory at home over the Pittsburgh Steelers. Green 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.800 Bay now three and one in sole possession of first 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.599 place in the NFC North. And with this win, if 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:34.760 we want to start on the offensive side of the ball, 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.800 I think it begins with talking about two guys on 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.440 offense who were pretty darn quiet the first three weeks 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.200 of the season, but they really showed up big against Pittsburgh. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.680 And I'm talking, of course, about Randall Cobb and A. J. Dillon. Yeah, 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:53.199 and let's let's start with Randall cop because this is 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.400 the story of the latter half of the off season 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.960 for the Green Bay Packers. The decision a week before 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.800 started training camp They're gonna acquire Randall Cobb from the 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.680 Houston Texans. Aaron Rodgers gets his old you know, his 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:10.320 partner back, and you know, for the last two months 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.760 we've basically been wondering, Okay, what is Cobb going to 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.119 do in this offense? You see how he could fit 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.440 and you understand where where he could potentially be maneuvered 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.559 and can make an impact, but he only played forty 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.880 eight snaps in the first three games. Well, Mark Quisveldi 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.320 Scantling goes down with the hamstring injury, ultimately gets placed 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:32.240 on injured reserve, and it's the Randall Cobs show. And 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.560 it was really apropos I felt like because the question 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.280 one of the first questions Matt la Fleur was asked 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.000 on on Monday after the game, was you know, was 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.320 it a big point of emphasis to get Cobb involved? 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.039 And he said, no, that's just kind of the way 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.400 it happened, and just seeing what he does in the 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:49.680 middle of the field. Mike I made a comment during 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.920 the game on Twitter, you know, the Packers like to 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.160 be multiple, They like to have guys that can do everything, 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.840 usually bigger body type guys, not typically the five ten variety. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.880 But Randall coub does fill a need for this offense. 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.920 Obviously on third downs, huge production there, but just the way, 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:07.960 even at thirty one years old, he's able to knife 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.240 through the middle of the field and find separation and 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.760 he is freaking fearless when there's a safety bearing down 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.800 on the guy catches everything. I was really impressed by 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:18.480 Randald Cobbin for him to be able to catch the 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:23.600 hundred of excuse before you know, touchdown in Aaron Rodgers career. 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.000 A really special night for a very special player. Yeah. Absolutely, 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.600 He's targeted six times in the game, comes up with 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.239 five catches. The other one was actually where he and 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.639 DeVante Adams were both in the same area. Um an 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.480 example of of how those both of those guys are 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.960 kind of on the same page always with Rogers because 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.239 they both saw the same thing on the field, went 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.919 to the same place and Cobb didn't realize that Adams 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.960 was there to catch the pass. But that aside, five 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.359 receptions on six targets for sixty plus yards, gets the 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:57.359 two touchdowns, his first two touchdowns of the season, and uh, 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.080 the production on third down. It was funny because I've uh, 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.639 you know, doing the live blog during the game and 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.359 chatting with the fans and whatnot. And after after those 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:10.680 first two third down conversions which set up then Rogers 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.400 scrambling for the touchdown, the Packers first touchdown of the game. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.919 The fans who were sending in the comments every time 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.960 it was third down, they would just say third and Cob, Cob, 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.079 third and Cob like but that's what it felt like, right, 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:27.400 I mean, Aaron Rodgers he knew, he knew where he 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.240 could go with the ball if he saw Cobb getting 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.919 that separation somewhere in the middle of the field, and 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.839 the throws were right on target. The production was there. Now, 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.120 we'll see what this means now for the Packers offense 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.720 going forward with as you said, Valdes Scantling is on 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.000 injured reserve. He's out at least a couple more weeks. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.240 We'll see how long it is before he's back. But 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.240 then the other element that developed a little bit with 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.760 this offense on Sunday was the number two running back 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.640 in Dylan because we've been talking about it, whether you 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.600 want to call it, you know, the thunder and lightning, 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.480 the one to the fastball and the changeup, whatever the 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.600 case might be. A j. Dillon is a different type 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.200 of running back from Aaron Jones, but we saw how 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:13.320 effective he can be against a you know, a straightforward, 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.760 stout defensive front and a lot of times it was 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:18.880 just you know it was line up with the three 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.839 tight ends, pushed the pile for four or five yards. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.279 What the Packers were doing on the ground against a 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.920 pretty good run defense, I thought was impressing. Yeah, two 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:28.839 weeks in a row mic where they really had to 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.400 earn every single yard that they got, but in this 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.159 game they actually ended up having some explosive place. Dylan 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.560 has his longest carry the season twenty five yards right 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.760 down to the one yard line at Pittsburgh, and Aaron 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.240 Jones actually had his longest year carry the year as 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.000 well at fifteen. Yeah, really having to work hard for 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.160 some of the yarders that he picked up. But what 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.599 I loved about Dylan was the four minute aspect of 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.360 him in the second half when the Packers need to 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:56.120 eat some clock. Four straight carries he picks up twenty yards, 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:57.960 none of them more than six yards, none of them 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:02.160 fewer than than four just a you know, a chain mover. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.919 And Aaron Rodgers made the remark afterwards, you know the 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.120 bowling ball that he kind of is on the field. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:11.800 But what is impressed Rogers is how now he's developed 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.360 as more of a three down type back. He's made 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.360 the improvements you want to see as a pass protector, 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.599 he made a heck of a catch and a play 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.280 for sixteen yards out of the backfield as well. That 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.160 was one area there were a lot of questions about 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.600 him coming out of Boston College. What were his hands? Like, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.800 never really did that at Boston College? Could he do it? 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.960 In this Matt the floor offense that likes to utilize 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.880 the running backs on ninety six total yards of offense 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.839 between Jones and Dylan and in this game where in 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.600 the second half, you know, it's kind of weird game 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:46.360 altogether in terms of the conditions, they just decided, Hey, 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.960 let's give a j Dillon a shot here to to 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.760 really you know, get some speed and momentum behind him. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.240 And I thought the young man really showed up. Yeah, definitely. 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.760 It's it's it's as we've talked about it so many times, 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.760 it's so good to see the Packers be able to 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.800 run the football. It's sets up so much else that 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.760 goes on with this offense, and and really in this game, 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.840 because the Packers had taken such command of this game 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.320 in the second half to be able to run the 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.320 ball and churn out the yards when the Steelers knew 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.120 you were going to run the ball. That's the kind 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.800 of thing that bodes really well for the future down 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.920 the road when you're when you're trying to protect leads, 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.279 add too leads in the second half, grind the clock, 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.480 all of those things you're trying to accomplish all those 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.920 goals when you have a lead in the third fourth 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:33.080 quarter of games. The Packers showed that they can do 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.440 that against a pretty good defense, and I think that's 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.760 a really good sign for the future. You're absolutely right, 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.640 And getting back to that yard carry, that was probably 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.080 my favorite run of the season, not because of the 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.600 yard is that picked up, but because that kind of 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.960 looked like the offense from last year in terms of 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.880 you had Marie Rogers coming on. The motion timed it perfectly. 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.279 When the ball gets snapped at everything, no issues there whatsoever, 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.720 and Dylan just gets north and south and he guys, 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.640 he said he got skinny through the gap and there 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.400 was no but there at the second level bush. I 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.440 believe that who is it that would end up in 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.120 the back and that ended up pushing out, gave him 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.880 the whole gap and basically was just in a foot 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.280 race right to uh right to the end zone. So 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:15.920 just to be able to get those type of options going. 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.920 That's important film, Mike, because now next week, Okay, what 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.200 can you build off of that? Look? Now, maybe that's 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:22.840 where you see the push pass is going out to 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.520 Marie Rogers. Maybe that's where you get some other swing 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.520 things going. It keeps defense is honest, and it gives 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.240 defensive coordineers things to think about now as you go 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.560 into a game this Sunday against Cincinnati. Yeah, we saw 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.880 some of those plays to where both Jones and Dylan 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.680 or in the backfield and Jones motions out and you're 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.640 trying to get a read on the defense. You know, 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.320 Aaron Jones, I mean Aaron Rodgers excuse me, has the 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:47.040 option of throwing the swing past Aaron Jones as emotions out, 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.640 or to hand it off to Dylan if the if 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.600 the defense is a little light in the box. Those 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:52.920 are the kinds of things I think we're going to 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.400 continue to see moving forward. Just to correct myself, Devin 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.560 Bush Bushes the wonderful safety from the Chicago Bears that 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.640 we've seen the past few years dead and Bush was 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.680 he kind of got flushed out of his gap and 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.200 that gave that gave the floodgates there for Yeah, no 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.560 question about it. A little bit of sponsor business here. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:13.040 West Sirius x M NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.480 and up to the minute NFL news that true football 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.840 fanatics need. Seven three, six and a cousin subs. We 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.960 have something for everyone, like our Wisconsin Cheese Kurds, mac 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.040 and Cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired with 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.520 your favorite sub or sub in a bowl Cousin Subs. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.280 We believe in better all right. On the defensive side, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.199 and I know we have some injury issues to talk 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.640 about and we'll get to those in a minute, But defensively, 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:41.560 I want to start with this West, because the game 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.680 did not start the way the Packers wanted it to. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.800 The Steelers took had the ball first, went down and 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:51.160 scored a long touchdown pass to Deonte Johnson, but then 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:56.920 Pittsburgh's next seven possessions three points. You talk about a 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.640 unit and no, not everything was perfect in there. And 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.080 the Steelers, yes, they were able, they were able to 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.000 move the ball, and there were some fourth downs that 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.320 based on game situation, they decided to go for it 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.800 instead of kick field goals. Possibly I get all that, 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:18.040 but seven possessions three points after allowing an opening possession touchdown. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.400 That's a that's a response from a defense. To me, 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.760 that felt like, Okay, this defense not only is settling 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.760 into where they are in the season with their new 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:31.520 defensive coordinator, but it showed just how veteran and experienced 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.199 overall this group is. Because because we've seen the snowball 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.280 start to go the wrong way a couple of times 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.679 early in the season, there was no snowball in this game. 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.600 Based on that first touchdown, and again just another thing 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.000 I thought was a good sign for this Packers team. Yeah, 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.160 and just the response to it, right because that that 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.079 was a tough blow there, because it's a forty five 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.920 year touchdown, it's against your best player with with yr 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.800 Alexander out there in single coverage, Johnson had a heck 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.240 of a game. I give that young man a lot 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:02.080 of credit. Without you know what, shoes Smith Schuster struggling 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:03.600 with the injuries that he's had. When they don't have 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.280 Chase Claypool, they needed somebody step up, and it was 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.400 Johnson on both sides of the field. So they come 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.040 out of the game and they get the touchdown. That's 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.360 a momentum changer. I know, I saw all the questions, 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.480 all the comments on Twitter about all this is why 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.400 you don't defer was you saw what ended up happening. 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.160 Is green Bay really settles in after that first and 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.680 foremost they've been able to stop the run. Naja Harris 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.040 wasn't able to get going. Now he had sixteen carries 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.560 sixty two yards uh in economical effort, but it wasn't 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.079 something that really, you know, hurt them. With that in mind, 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.080 much like the San Francisco game, they were able to 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.400 get after Ben Roethlisberger a little bit more, only two sacks, 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:43.480 only five quarterback hits, but to be able to to 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.280 kind of keep him off balance. Certainly the strip sack 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.320 was a huge play on the third series. Um, you know, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.240 there were so many little things that worked against the 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.960 Steelers in this whether it was Kingsley, Kiki getting home, 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:59.200 Kenny Clark being able to pick that up, the points 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.599 off of that Randall Cobb, the twenty yard punch in 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.480 the second half by Harvin, there are little things that 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.400 you look at the way this game flowed. Green Bay 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.040 just out they all battled them in all three phases, 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.320 and I thought a lot of that had to do 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.280 with how the defense responded early on. You know, I 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.480 thought this was a great game for Kingsley Kiki. I 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.280 really thought him and Kenny Clark, those guys pushed the front, 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.000 and as Kiki said after the game, that's what they 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:24.600 felt like they needed to do in this thing, because 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.400 you can't let Broughtlisberger step up into his throws. They 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.439 took that avenue away and they came up with a 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.160 rather dominant performance. Yeah, I thought what the Packers were 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.760 able to do up front is more often than not 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.520 with a standard foreman rush. The bulk of the time, 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.720 we saw the pocket closing in around Ben Roethlisberger. And no, 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:44.800 the Packers didn't rack up a whole bunch of secks. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.320 Roethlisberger was not on the ground a whole bunch. But 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.960 you also didn't see Roethlisberger getting all that comfortable in 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.400 the pocket because it just seemed like it was closing 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:58.079 in around him quite a bit. And and Roethlisberger did 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.640 miss a couple of throws that that the future Hall 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.199 of Famer we're used to, We're used to seeing him 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.440 make those throws, and you wonder, okay, so was that 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.680 little bit of lack of comfort in the pocket doesn't 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.480 make that throw just a little bit up. I mean 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.680 it all, it all plays, it all plays into it, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.480 and was part of this defensive effort. The bad news, 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.199 of course, is that Jayra Alexander went down in this 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.760 game with a shoulder injury. Made a terrific play on 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.360 a for a fourth down stop. For the last three years, Yeah, 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.080 made a terrific play on a fourth down stop. Late 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.320 in the third quarter, the Steelers were throwing short of 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.240 the sticks, trying to get a little catch and run 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.480 from their rookie running back Naja Harris and uh and 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:42.079 Alexander's right there goes low upends and but he injures 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.120 his shoulder, leaves the game, is taken to the locker 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.199 room on a cart. And the latest we heard from 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:52.319 Matt Lafleur on Monday in his UH day after game 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.439 news conferences that they're still gathering a bunch of information 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:00.200 on this injury, looking at different scenarios, different opinion in 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.120 terms of how to proceed with regard to this injury. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.400 So we don't really know anything at this point other 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.800 than Alexander is probably going to be out for a while. 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.679 We just don't know exactly how long at this point, um, 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.520 this is this is potentially am you know, a game 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.160 changer in a sense for the Packers defense because you're 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:25.000 already without your other second team All Pro from the Union, 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.720 Zadarius Smith with the back injury, and now Alexander the 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.520 second team All Pro at corner is down with an injury. Well, 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:33.960 and the fact that he played as well as he 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.319 did in this game, and I saw the one stat that, yeah, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.240 there was a forty five yard catch rely on, but 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.440 after that he got it, he got a little hand 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.320 in the back on that, just a little bit. I 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.440 give I give Johnson credit though, because because when I 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.120 saw it live, I was like, oh, that's a push off. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.520 But then when I saw the replay, what Johnson actually 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.840 did is he put his hand in Alexander's back essentially 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.960 to stop his momentum. But he didn't shove him to 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.560 where you see the extended arm, which is how you 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.559 get the flag for O p I. He put his 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.760 arm there and kind of blocked him, but because he 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.959 didn't shove and get the separation, they didn't throw the flag. 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.600 They didn't they didn't see that movement of the arm. 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.679 It was a sneaky play. By Johnson. I give him 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.160 a lot of credit because he got away with it 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.439 and got a forty five yard touchdown against one of 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.200 the best corners in the league, west Hodqoitt sixth grade 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.760 baby in middle school. I think I'm gonna probably flop there. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.000 I think if I'm Alexander, I'd probably go down. But 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.520 but Jah is a better competitor than I am. But 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.800 what I loved about that though, after that four targets, 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:31.680 I think there was one completion for a yard or 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.120 something like that. I mean, the guy shut it down 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.240 and as I was, I kind of interrupted you, but 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.160 I wanted to make that point. He has made that 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.480 place so many times, Mike, how many times? Remember last 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.400 year in Minnesota. Crash is so hard and as we 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.600 saw in his interception the week before, the guy has 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.320 such explosiveness. He can cover so much ground in such 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.720 a short period of time. Unfortunately, there's a six ft 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:58.200 two three, two hundred thirty pound rock in Naja Harris 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.280 that you know he made the hit it it was 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.720 able to get him to have enough. It stopped him 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.800 enough for the rest of the guys that come gang tackle. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.720 But unfortunately for Job comes up with the shoulder injury. 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.520 I know he was cheering on fans as he was leaving. 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.000 We don't know the update. Matt Lafleur said on Wednesday 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.960 he hopes to have one for the media. This is 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.080 the guy, though, Mike. I mean, we talked so many 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.440 years about the Packers investing first round picks and the 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:23.000 defensive backs and all this. Jayre is the one and 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.400 too for him to do what he's done at twenty 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.600 four years old, to have the composure and the mindset 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.920 and the maturity to to really dominate and excel every 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.120 single year he's played in this league. Was off to 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.240 an exceptional start to this year. So you hate to 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.400 see it for him. You hope it, you know, you 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.040 hope for the best. But the Green Bay Packers, this 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.320 is where Eric Stokes has to step up. Has his 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.960 first interception in the fourth quarter of that one responds 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.680 the way you want him to. I thought Darnielle Savage 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.320 has been playing like a madman on the back end. 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.520 I mean you just the speed, explosiveness and the intelligence. 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.440 You're seeing it with him, you know, Adrian Amos mr 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.960 consistency and hopefully the Packers can get Kevin King here 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.760 back soon as well. Because they're gonna need these guys. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.800 You need five six defensive backs to be able to 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.720 navigate a season, and Jr. Alexander for the better part 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.480 of three years has been something the Packers have just 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.080 not had to worry about. Yeah, much like what they 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.720 did with Sadarius Smith with losing him. If you're gonna 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.640 lose job for a little bit, you have to have 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.560 guys step up in his place. Yeah. Absolutely, this is 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:24.080 going to be an interesting period here for the Packers 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:28.080 to navigate injury wise, because because really you're talking about 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.920 the two biggest playmakers on the defensive side of the 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.080 ball over the last couple of years um are now 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.760 on the sidelines. And and we'll see what that update 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.000 is on Alexander on Wednesday. I did want to get 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.840 to a couple of things with regard to special teams. One, 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:49.640 bo Joe as he's becoming known Corey Bojorkez, Holy cow 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.000 West is this guy? I mean, how how does how? 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.800 I mean? I understand he went to l A to 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.520 compete with a four time alto and Johnny Hecker and everything, 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.480 but how was how did nobody else bring him in? 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.480 You know, it's it's amazing It's absolutely amazing to me 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.399 that this guy with with this much, with with the 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.320 track record he has and the talent that would obviously 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.639 be on display at any moment that you bring a 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:19.960 guy like this in for a workout, that um that 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.199 here the Packers have him, and it's a it's a 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.280 big bonus because uh I mean, he pins the Steelers 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.000 on the four yard line with the uh I forget 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.439 what it's called, but it's basically where he drops the 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.560 ball side with banana punt, that's what it is. Yeah, 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.359 But he drops the ball sideways and kicks it, so 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.720 it's spinning, you know, it's the it's a kickoff spin, 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.960 but in the in the sideways way, if that makes 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.840 any sense of habscribe. Yeah, but he pins the Steelers 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.000 on the four yard line there early in the game, 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:53.320 which um, which then the defense does get the stop 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.080 and the ball back. And then when the Packers are 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:57.679 backed up and he's punting out of the back of 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.080 the end zone, he blasts a fifty seven yard or 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.679 Malik Taylor beats as the gunner beats his guy on 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.280 the outside, and you get a fair catch off of 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.159 a fifty seven yard punt out of the back of 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.720 your end zone. You can't ask for a better impact 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.359 on field position from a punter than what Bojo has 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.520 given the Packers here. Yeah, I'm starting to call him 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.600 the scientist because just the way he looks at punting 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.800 is just it is incredible. The you know, the physicist 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.159 is probably what I should call him. I mean, he 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.119 talked about it was such an interesting interview. You were 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:28.679 a part of it in the media auditorium. But just 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.560 the way he looks at it, because you know, when 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.919 you when you're playing in the park with your friends 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:34.720 back in the day, if somebody's gonna punt the ball 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.800 or maybe you do that for your kickoff, they're just 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:41.040 looking to hammer it, right. Yeah. Yeah, But Horc has 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.400 said it's like, no, you don't want to outpunt your coverage, 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.400 but in that particular case, you're backed up in your 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.280 own end zone. You're having to do the short punt, 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.160 you know where it's you're not gonna have as much time. 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.320 And if you looked at what Pittsburgh was sending, they 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.760 had one guy on each side as far as jammers. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.680 They were sending the house to try to block this punt. Yeah, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.440 so Horc has just let it fly and you give 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.560 credit to Malik Taylor going down and had a really 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.440 nice run off the side, the left side for the 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:10.720 as a gunner. The kids really talented. Mike, and with 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:12.840 all due respect to j K. Scott. J K Scott, 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.160 as I've said before numerous times, has all the ability 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.280 in the world. Directionally, he struggled and that was where 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.199 the kind of the disconnect was. He couldn't place it 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.840 where he needed to place it along the sidelines. For 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.720 as talented as b Hoorkes is with that left leg, 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.719