1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West Hodkoitz. We're coming to you 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: here from our studios at lambeau Field West. Week four 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: is in the books for the Packers, and it was 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: a seventeen victory at home over the Pittsburgh Steelers. Green 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Bay now three and one in sole possession of first 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: place in the NFC North. And with this win, if 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: we want to start on the offensive side of the ball, 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: I think it begins with talking about two guys on 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: offense who were pretty darn quiet the first three weeks 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: of the season, but they really showed up big against Pittsburgh. 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: And I'm talking, of course, about Randall Cobb and A. J. Dillon. Yeah, 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: and let's let's start with Randall cop because this is 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: the story of the latter half of the off season 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers. The decision a week before 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: started training camp They're gonna acquire Randall Cobb from the 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Aaron Rodgers gets his old you know, his 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: partner back, and you know, for the last two months 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: we've basically been wondering, Okay, what is Cobb going to 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: do in this offense? You see how he could fit 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: and you understand where where he could potentially be maneuvered 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: and can make an impact, but he only played forty 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: eight snaps in the first three games. Well, Mark Quisveldi 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: Scantling goes down with the hamstring injury, ultimately gets placed 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: on injured reserve, and it's the Randall Cobs show. And 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: it was really apropos I felt like because the question 28 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: one of the first questions Matt la Fleur was asked 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: on on Monday after the game, was you know, was 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: it a big point of emphasis to get Cobb involved? 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: And he said, no, that's just kind of the way 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: it happened, and just seeing what he does in the 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: middle of the field. Mike I made a comment during 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: the game on Twitter, you know, the Packers like to 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: be multiple, They like to have guys that can do everything, 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: usually bigger body type guys, not typically the five ten variety. 37 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: But Randall coub does fill a need for this offense. 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: Obviously on third downs, huge production there, but just the way, 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: even at thirty one years old, he's able to knife 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: through the middle of the field and find separation and 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: he is freaking fearless when there's a safety bearing down 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: on the guy catches everything. I was really impressed by 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: Randald Cobbin for him to be able to catch the 44 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: hundred of excuse before you know, touchdown in Aaron Rodgers career. 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: A really special night for a very special player. Yeah. Absolutely, 46 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: He's targeted six times in the game, comes up with 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: five catches. The other one was actually where he and 48 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams were both in the same area. Um an 49 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: example of of how those both of those guys are 50 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: kind of on the same page always with Rogers because 51 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: they both saw the same thing on the field, went 52 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: to the same place and Cobb didn't realize that Adams 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: was there to catch the pass. But that aside, five 54 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: receptions on six targets for sixty plus yards, gets the 55 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, his first two touchdowns of the season, and uh, 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: the production on third down. It was funny because I've uh, 57 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: you know, doing the live blog during the game and 58 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: chatting with the fans and whatnot. And after after those 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: first two third down conversions which set up then Rogers 60 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: scrambling for the touchdown, the Packers first touchdown of the game. 61 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: The fans who were sending in the comments every time 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: it was third down, they would just say third and Cob, Cob, 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: third and Cob like but that's what it felt like, right, 64 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Rodgers he knew, he knew where he 65 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: could go with the ball if he saw Cobb getting 66 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: that separation somewhere in the middle of the field, and 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: the throws were right on target. The production was there. Now, 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: we'll see what this means now for the Packers offense 69 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: going forward with as you said, Valdes Scantling is on 70 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: injured reserve. He's out at least a couple more weeks. 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: We'll see how long it is before he's back. But 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: then the other element that developed a little bit with 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: this offense on Sunday was the number two running back 74 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: in Dylan because we've been talking about it, whether you 75 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: want to call it, you know, the thunder and lightning, 76 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: the one to the fastball and the changeup, whatever the 77 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: case might be. A j. Dillon is a different type 78 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: of running back from Aaron Jones, but we saw how 79 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: effective he can be against a you know, a straightforward, 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: stout defensive front and a lot of times it was 81 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: just you know it was line up with the three 82 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: tight ends, pushed the pile for four or five yards. 83 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: What the Packers were doing on the ground against a 84 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: pretty good run defense, I thought was impressing. Yeah, two 85 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: weeks in a row mic where they really had to 86 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: earn every single yard that they got, but in this 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: game they actually ended up having some explosive place. Dylan 88 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: has his longest carry the season twenty five yards right 89 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: down to the one yard line at Pittsburgh, and Aaron 90 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: Jones actually had his longest year carry the year as 91 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: well at fifteen. Yeah, really having to work hard for 92 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: some of the yarders that he picked up. But what 93 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: I loved about Dylan was the four minute aspect of 94 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: him in the second half when the Packers need to 95 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: eat some clock. Four straight carries he picks up twenty yards, 96 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: none of them more than six yards, none of them 97 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: fewer than than four just a you know, a chain mover. 98 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers made the remark afterwards, you know the 99 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: bowling ball that he kind of is on the field. 100 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: But what is impressed Rogers is how now he's developed 101 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: as more of a three down type back. He's made 102 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: the improvements you want to see as a pass protector, 103 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: he made a heck of a catch and a play 104 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: for sixteen yards out of the backfield as well. That 105 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: was one area there were a lot of questions about 106 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: him coming out of Boston College. What were his hands? Like, 107 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: never really did that at Boston College? Could he do it? 108 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: In this Matt the floor offense that likes to utilize 109 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: the running backs on ninety six total yards of offense 110 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: between Jones and Dylan and in this game where in 111 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: the second half, you know, it's kind of weird game 112 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: altogether in terms of the conditions, they just decided, Hey, 113 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: let's give a j Dillon a shot here to to 114 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: really you know, get some speed and momentum behind him. 115 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: And I thought the young man really showed up. Yeah, definitely. 116 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: It's it's it's as we've talked about it so many times, 117 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: it's so good to see the Packers be able to 118 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: run the football. It's sets up so much else that 119 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: goes on with this offense, and and really in this game, 120 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: because the Packers had taken such command of this game 121 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: in the second half to be able to run the 122 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: ball and churn out the yards when the Steelers knew 123 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: you were going to run the ball. That's the kind 124 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: of thing that bodes really well for the future down 125 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: the road when you're when you're trying to protect leads, 126 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: add too leads in the second half, grind the clock, 127 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: all of those things you're trying to accomplish all those 128 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: goals when you have a lead in the third fourth 129 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: quarter of games. The Packers showed that they can do 130 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: that against a pretty good defense, and I think that's 131 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: a really good sign for the future. You're absolutely right, 132 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: And getting back to that yard carry, that was probably 133 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: my favorite run of the season, not because of the 134 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: yard is that picked up, but because that kind of 135 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: looked like the offense from last year in terms of 136 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: you had Marie Rogers coming on. The motion timed it perfectly. 137 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: When the ball gets snapped at everything, no issues there whatsoever, 138 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: and Dylan just gets north and south and he guys, 139 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: he said he got skinny through the gap and there 140 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: was no but there at the second level bush. I 141 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: believe that who is it that would end up in 142 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: the back and that ended up pushing out, gave him 143 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: the whole gap and basically was just in a foot 144 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: race right to uh right to the end zone. So 145 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: just to be able to get those type of options going. 146 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: That's important film, Mike, because now next week, Okay, what 147 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: can you build off of that? Look? Now, maybe that's 148 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: where you see the push pass is going out to 149 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: Marie Rogers. Maybe that's where you get some other swing 150 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: things going. It keeps defense is honest, and it gives 151 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: defensive coordineers things to think about now as you go 152 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: into a game this Sunday against Cincinnati. Yeah, we saw 153 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: some of those plays to where both Jones and Dylan 154 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: or in the backfield and Jones motions out and you're 155 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: trying to get a read on the defense. You know, 156 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, I mean Aaron Rodgers excuse me, has the 157 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: option of throwing the swing past Aaron Jones as emotions out, 158 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: or to hand it off to Dylan if the if 159 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: the defense is a little light in the box. Those 160 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: are the kinds of things I think we're going to 161 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: continue to see moving forward. Just to correct myself, Devin 162 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: Bush Bushes the wonderful safety from the Chicago Bears that 163 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: we've seen the past few years dead and Bush was 164 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: he kind of got flushed out of his gap and 165 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: that gave that gave the floodgates there for Yeah, no 166 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: question about it. A little bit of sponsor business here. 167 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: West Sirius x M NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis 168 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: and up to the minute NFL news that true football 169 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: fanatics need. Seven three, six and a cousin subs. 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On the defensive side, 174 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: and I know we have some injury issues to talk 175 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: about and we'll get to those in a minute, But defensively, 176 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: I want to start with this West, because the game 177 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: did not start the way the Packers wanted it to. 178 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: The Steelers took had the ball first, went down and 179 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: scored a long touchdown pass to Deonte Johnson, but then 180 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's next seven possessions three points. You talk about a 181 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: unit and no, not everything was perfect in there. And 182 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers, yes, they were able, they were able to 183 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: move the ball, and there were some fourth downs that 184 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: based on game situation, they decided to go for it 185 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: instead of kick field goals. Possibly I get all that, 186 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: but seven possessions three points after allowing an opening possession touchdown. 187 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: That's a that's a response from a defense. To me, 188 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: that felt like, Okay, this defense not only is settling 189 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: into where they are in the season with their new 190 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, but it showed just how veteran and experienced 191 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: overall this group is. Because because we've seen the snowball 192 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: start to go the wrong way a couple of times 193 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: early in the season, there was no snowball in this game. 194 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: Based on that first touchdown, and again just another thing 195 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: I thought was a good sign for this Packers team. Yeah, 196 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: and just the response to it, right because that that 197 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: was a tough blow there, because it's a forty five 198 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: year touchdown, it's against your best player with with yr 199 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Alexander out there in single coverage, Johnson had a heck 200 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: of a game. I give that young man a lot 201 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: of credit. Without you know what, shoes Smith Schuster struggling 202 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: with the injuries that he's had. When they don't have 203 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: Chase Claypool, they needed somebody step up, and it was 204 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: Johnson on both sides of the field. So they come 205 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: out of the game and they get the touchdown. That's 206 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: a momentum changer. I know, I saw all the questions, 207 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: all the comments on Twitter about all this is why 208 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: you don't defer was you saw what ended up happening. 209 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: Is green Bay really settles in after that first and 210 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: foremost they've been able to stop the run. Naja Harris 211 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: wasn't able to get going. Now he had sixteen carries 212 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: sixty two yards uh in economical effort, but it wasn't 213 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: something that really, you know, hurt them. With that in mind, 214 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: much like the San Francisco game, they were able to 215 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: get after Ben Roethlisberger a little bit more, only two sacks, 216 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: only five quarterback hits, but to be able to to 217 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: kind of keep him off balance. Certainly the strip sack 218 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: was a huge play on the third series. Um, you know, 219 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: there were so many little things that worked against the 220 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: Steelers in this whether it was Kingsley, Kiki getting home, 221 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark being able to pick that up, the points 222 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,599 Speaker 1: off of that Randall Cobb, the twenty yard punch in 223 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: the second half by Harvin, there are little things that 224 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: you look at the way this game flowed. Green Bay 225 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: just out they all battled them in all three phases, 226 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: and I thought a lot of that had to do 227 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: with how the defense responded early on. You know, I 228 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: thought this was a great game for Kingsley Kiki. I 229 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: really thought him and Kenny Clark, those guys pushed the front, 230 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: and as Kiki said after the game, that's what they 231 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: felt like they needed to do in this thing, because 232 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: you can't let Broughtlisberger step up into his throws. They 233 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: took that avenue away and they came up with a 234 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: rather dominant performance. Yeah, I thought what the Packers were 235 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: able to do up front is more often than not 236 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: with a standard foreman rush. The bulk of the time, 237 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: we saw the pocket closing in around Ben Roethlisberger. And no, 238 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: the Packers didn't rack up a whole bunch of secks. 239 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger was not on the ground a whole bunch. But 240 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: you also didn't see Roethlisberger getting all that comfortable in 241 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: the pocket because it just seemed like it was closing 242 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: in around him quite a bit. And and Roethlisberger did 243 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: miss a couple of throws that that the future Hall 244 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: of Famer we're used to, We're used to seeing him 245 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: make those throws, and you wonder, okay, so was that 246 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: little bit of lack of comfort in the pocket doesn't 247 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: make that throw just a little bit up. I mean 248 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: it all, it all plays, it all plays into it, 249 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: and was part of this defensive effort. The bad news, 250 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: of course, is that Jayra Alexander went down in this 251 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: game with a shoulder injury. Made a terrific play on 252 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: a for a fourth down stop. For the last three years, Yeah, 253 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: made a terrific play on a fourth down stop. Late 254 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, the Steelers were throwing short of 255 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: the sticks, trying to get a little catch and run 256 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: from their rookie running back Naja Harris and uh and 257 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: Alexander's right there goes low upends and but he injures 258 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: his shoulder, leaves the game, is taken to the locker 259 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: room on a cart. And the latest we heard from 260 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur on Monday in his UH day after game 261 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: news conferences that they're still gathering a bunch of information 262 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: on this injury, looking at different scenarios, different opinion in 263 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: terms of how to proceed with regard to this injury. 264 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: So we don't really know anything at this point other 265 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: than Alexander is probably going to be out for a while. 266 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: We just don't know exactly how long at this point, um, 267 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: this is this is potentially am you know, a game 268 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: changer in a sense for the Packers defense because you're 269 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: already without your other second team All Pro from the Union, 270 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith with the back injury, and now Alexander the 271 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: second team All Pro at corner is down with an injury. Well, 272 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: and the fact that he played as well as he 273 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: did in this game, and I saw the one stat that, yeah, 274 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: there was a forty five yard catch rely on, but 275 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: after that he got it, he got a little hand 276 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: in the back on that, just a little bit. I 277 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: give I give Johnson credit though, because because when I 278 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: saw it live, I was like, oh, that's a push off. 279 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: But then when I saw the replay, what Johnson actually 280 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: did is he put his hand in Alexander's back essentially 281 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: to stop his momentum. But he didn't shove him to 282 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: where you see the extended arm, which is how you 283 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: get the flag for O p I. He put his 284 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: arm there and kind of blocked him, but because he 285 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: didn't shove and get the separation, they didn't throw the flag. 286 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't see that movement of the arm. 287 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: It was a sneaky play. By Johnson. I give him 288 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: a lot of credit because he got away with it 289 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: and got a forty five yard touchdown against one of 290 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: the best corners in the league, west Hodqoitt sixth grade 291 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: baby in middle school. I think I'm gonna probably flop there. 292 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: I think if I'm Alexander, I'd probably go down. But 293 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: but Jah is a better competitor than I am. But 294 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: what I loved about that though, after that four targets, 295 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: I think there was one completion for a yard or 296 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: something like that. I mean, the guy shut it down 297 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: and as I was, I kind of interrupted you, but 298 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to make that point. He has made that 299 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: place so many times, Mike, how many times? Remember last 300 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: year in Minnesota. Crash is so hard and as we 301 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: saw in his interception the week before, the guy has 302 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: such explosiveness. He can cover so much ground in such 303 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: a short period of time. Unfortunately, there's a six ft 304 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: two three, two hundred thirty pound rock in Naja Harris 305 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: that you know he made the hit it it was 306 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: able to get him to have enough. It stopped him 307 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: enough for the rest of the guys that come gang tackle. 308 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: But unfortunately for Job comes up with the shoulder injury. 309 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: I know he was cheering on fans as he was leaving. 310 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: We don't know the update. Matt Lafleur said on Wednesday 311 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: he hopes to have one for the media. This is 312 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: the guy, though, Mike. I mean, we talked so many 313 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: years about the Packers investing first round picks and the 314 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: defensive backs and all this. Jayre is the one and 315 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: too for him to do what he's done at twenty 316 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: four years old, to have the composure and the mindset 317 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: and the maturity to to really dominate and excel every 318 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: single year he's played in this league. Was off to 319 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: an exceptional start to this year. So you hate to 320 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: see it for him. You hope it, you know, you 321 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: hope for the best. But the Green Bay Packers, this 322 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: is where Eric Stokes has to step up. Has his 323 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: first interception in the fourth quarter of that one responds 324 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: the way you want him to. I thought Darnielle Savage 325 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: has been playing like a madman on the back end. 326 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean you just the speed, explosiveness and the intelligence. 327 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: You're seeing it with him, you know, Adrian Amos mr 328 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: consistency and hopefully the Packers can get Kevin King here 329 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: back soon as well. Because they're gonna need these guys. 330 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: You need five six defensive backs to be able to 331 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: navigate a season, and Jr. Alexander for the better part 332 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: of three years has been something the Packers have just 333 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: not had to worry about. Yeah, much like what they 334 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: did with Sadarius Smith with losing him. If you're gonna 335 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: lose job for a little bit, you have to have 336 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: guys step up in his place. Yeah. Absolutely, this is 337 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: going to be an interesting period here for the Packers 338 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: to navigate injury wise, because because really you're talking about 339 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: the two biggest playmakers on the defensive side of the 340 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: ball over the last couple of years um are now 341 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: on the sidelines. And and we'll see what that update 342 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: is on Alexander on Wednesday. I did want to get 343 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: to a couple of things with regard to special teams. One, 344 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: bo Joe as he's becoming known Corey Bojorkez, Holy cow 345 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: West is this guy? I mean, how how does how? 346 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean? I understand he went to l A to 347 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: compete with a four time alto and Johnny Hecker and everything, 348 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: but how was how did nobody else bring him in? 349 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's amazing It's absolutely amazing to me 350 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: that this guy with with this much, with with the 351 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: track record he has and the talent that would obviously 352 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: be on display at any moment that you bring a 353 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: guy like this in for a workout, that um that 354 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: here the Packers have him, and it's a it's a 355 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: big bonus because uh I mean, he pins the Steelers 356 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: on the four yard line with the uh I forget 357 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: what it's called, but it's basically where he drops the 358 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: ball side with banana punt, that's what it is. Yeah, 359 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: But he drops the ball sideways and kicks it, so 360 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: it's spinning, you know, it's the it's a kickoff spin, 361 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: but in the in the sideways way, if that makes 362 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: any sense of habscribe. Yeah, but he pins the Steelers 363 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: on the four yard line there early in the game, 364 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: which um, which then the defense does get the stop 365 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: and the ball back. And then when the Packers are 366 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: backed up and he's punting out of the back of 367 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: the end zone, he blasts a fifty seven yard or 368 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: Malik Taylor beats as the gunner beats his guy on 369 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: the outside, and you get a fair catch off of 370 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: a fifty seven yard punt out of the back of 371 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: your end zone. You can't ask for a better impact 372 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: on field position from a punter than what Bojo has 373 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: given the Packers here. Yeah, I'm starting to call him 374 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: the scientist because just the way he looks at punting 375 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: is just it is incredible. The you know, the physicist 376 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: is probably what I should call him. I mean, he 377 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: talked about it was such an interesting interview. You were 378 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: a part of it in the media auditorium. But just 379 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: the way he looks at it, because you know, when 380 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: you when you're playing in the park with your friends 381 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: back in the day, if somebody's gonna punt the ball 382 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: or maybe you do that for your kickoff, they're just 383 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: looking to hammer it, right. Yeah. Yeah, But Horc has 384 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: said it's like, no, you don't want to outpunt your coverage, 385 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: but in that particular case, you're backed up in your 386 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: own end zone. You're having to do the short punt, 387 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: you know where it's you're not gonna have as much time. 388 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: And if you looked at what Pittsburgh was sending, they 389 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: had one guy on each side as far as jammers. 390 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: They were sending the house to try to block this punt. Yeah, 391 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: so Horc has just let it fly and you give 392 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: credit to Malik Taylor going down and had a really 393 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: nice run off the side, the left side for the 394 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: as a gunner. The kids really talented. Mike, and with 395 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: all due respect to j K. Scott. J K Scott, 396 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: as I've said before numerous times, has all the ability 397 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: in the world. Directionally, he struggled and that was where 398 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: the kind of the disconnect was. He couldn't place it 399 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: where he needed to place it along the sidelines. For 400 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: as talented as b Hoorkes is with that left leg, 401 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: he also has shown remarkable accuracy with it. So I 402 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: will keep saying this, I will keep writing it. I 403 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: don't cover the Buffalo bills. I have some buddies of 404 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: mine who do. Maybe I'll ask. I still cannot figure 405 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: out not only how this guy went two months without 406 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: being signed, but how he didn't get tendered. I mean 407 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: he he is a really talented young man and he 408 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: was a great fine for Buffalo coming out in New England. 409 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: So we'll see where things had. Obviously, four games does 410 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: not make a career, but they wanted to get hang time, 411 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: they wanted to get improvements. They felt like they could 412 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: get better with their punt coverage. And horc has has 413 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: done a big, big job in that well. The the 414 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: salary cap crunch obviously leads to certain things happening, like 415 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: Corey Lindsley has to walk in free agency right well, 416 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: the Packers in the salary cap crunch situation have taken 417 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: advantage of two things and bringing in Corey Bojorkez and 418 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: DeAndre Campbell, two guys who are playing major roles on 419 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: this team for contracts that were much less than what 420 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: they were hoping for what they were expecting as free 421 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: agents on the market. The Packers jump in and take 422 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: advantage there and it's paying dividends. One other thing on 423 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: the special teams, though, Packers have some things to look 424 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: at with regard to the field goal and the field 425 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: goal protection, because Matt Lafleur mentioned it on Monday when 426 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: I asked him the follow up on it, and I 427 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: give credit to an insider inbox reader, and I apologize 428 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: for not remembering the individual's name at the moment, but 429 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: I answered the question late Sunday night after the game 430 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: that this reader had noticed that when the Steelers were 431 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: called for offside but blocked the field goal at the 432 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: end of the first half, the guys on on the 433 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: edge there I believe it was Joe Hayden and make 434 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: a Fitzpatrick where the two on the edge, they essentially 435 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: went off of Bohorkes with his top hand, flashing the hand, 436 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: which is the signal for the snap. And apparently the 437 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: Packers have been doing that but not you know, flash 438 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: the hand and count thousand one thousand two or something 439 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: like that. It's been flashed the hand and snap the ball, right, 440 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: so that's what the Steelers were going. Those guys on 441 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: the edge were not watching the ball, they were watching 442 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: Bhorqus his hand and that's how they got to jump. 443 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: So it's an easy fix for the Packers, right, I mean, 444 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: all you have to do is say, you know, you go, okay, 445 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: we're going on to flash the hand thousand one thousand two. 446 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: It's it's still a silent count. It's a snap, but 447 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: you make those guys watch the ball, so the Packers 448 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: will Packers will get that short up. But this whole 449 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: question of whether or not those guys were off side 450 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: very very interesting because it certainly was close. It looks 451 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: like they're offside in live action, but then when you 452 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: slow it down, I'm not so sure as it turns 453 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: out the Packers get the second try at the field goal. 454 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: They get it at the end of the half instead 455 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: of having the seven points the other way. But um, 456 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: but an interesting turn of events there at the end 457 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: of the first It is funny because basically the off 458 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: side space it kind of comes down to how quickly 459 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: Hunter Bradley snaps the ball then, I mean if he 460 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: just waits that I'm talking mellic Yeah, absolute terms of 461 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: it actually coming out to me personally. Now, we don't 462 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: we do not have a good vantage point press box 463 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: at lambel Field's fantastic is one of the best in 464 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: the league. But from when we're sitting and where that 465 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: ball was coming, all we could see is the guys 466 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: coming off the edge. I didn't have a good look 467 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: at all of what was happening, but it happened so fast. Yeah, 468 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: that there was this part of me is just like, well, 469 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: of course they were offside. How could they How could 470 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: they have been that close to where Horke has was 471 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: putting down the ball without them being off side? Because 472 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: because that that was just an absolute smothering of the 473 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: of the I mean Fitzpatrick was packed practically on his 474 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: feet still in blocking that and then scooping and going 475 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: the other way. One thing I'm trying to teach myself though. 476 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: Mike and Mark Murphy Packers Presidency, wrote about this in 477 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: in Empty five. I am an eye for an eye guy. 478 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: That's why it's such an issue with the officiating in 479 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. Is why I was so upset 480 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: about the fishing at the end of San Francisco game. 481 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: But Mark laid it out on Saturday and said, listen, 482 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: on a long enough timeline, the calls worked themselves out. 483 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: So while that didn't work for Pittsburgh and worked in 484 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: Green Bay's advantage, you have you know, j J. T J. 485 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: Watt tripping, you know Rogers later in the game. Absolutely 486 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: flag gets thrown, they pick it up for some reason. 487 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: It is what it is. And at the end of 488 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: the day, seventeen the Green Bay Packers, I think everyone 489 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: would agree the better team one three and one now 490 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: going into Cincinnati this upcoming weekend. Yeah. Absolutely, And with 491 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: that we'll call it a wrap on this edition of 492 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our coverage 493 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: of the team on Packers dot Com. For West, I'm Mike, 494 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time.