Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are. It's Tuesday at
Speaker 1: eleven thirty am Central Time, and that means only one thing.
Speaker 1: It's time for Mix Shots with Mickey Spagnola inside the
Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage studio at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco.
Speaker 1: Everson Walls inside his own SWBC Mortgage studio, and I
Speaker 1: am at my home as well. And we are one
Speaker 1: week in two days away from the start of the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one National Football League Draft, and lots going
Speaker 1: on because what I guess is a well, it's kind
Speaker 1: of sort of virtual off season around the National Football
Speaker 1: League is underway this week and there's so much to
Speaker 1: talk to talk about over the next hour here on
Speaker 1: Mick Shots, Mickey, Everson, how you're doing. Let's start with
Speaker 1: Nicky first, Mickey, since it's your name on this show.
Speaker 1: That's a scary proposition. I'm doing her fine. They're the
Speaker 1: one responsible. Yes, I'm responsible. For us being here right now.
Speaker 1: Everything's good. It's a beautiful day, and we got activity
Speaker 1: out on the football field here over the last couple
Speaker 1: of days. And Everson, how are you doing? I am
Speaker 1: doing wonderful, so good to be here. By the way, Bill,
Speaker 1: you were late signing on. So I want to make
Speaker 1: sure that the T and yes, every everything here is
Speaker 1: Spagnola's fault. So I'm want to put those disclaimers out
Speaker 1: there right now and just let you know, uh, spacts,
Speaker 1: you actually have a front row seat, don't you to
Speaker 1: the Cowboy practices to even maybe Dak Prescott's recovery. Have
Speaker 1: you been watching them out there? They's been practicing. I
Speaker 1: heard these out there practicing with anybody and anyone that
Speaker 1: would trying to catch his passes. I've heard you were
Speaker 1: out there on the end zone one day trying to
Speaker 1: catch them passes. So have you been checking them out?
Speaker 1: Have you been checking out his progress or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I know better than go and try to catch his passes.
Speaker 1: I learned that long time ago in uh A quick
Speaker 1: story in nineteen ninety three, after Troy Aikman had his
Speaker 1: back surgery in June, I believe the Cowboys played a
Speaker 1: I can't remember if they played in Mexico City that year.
Speaker 1: They played a game that I wasn't covering, and I
Speaker 1: went out to watch him throw and Babe Laffenberg was
Speaker 1: supposed to be there to catch for him, and Babe
Speaker 1: was late, so his physical therapists was out there and
Speaker 1: he went out and said, yeah, i'll catch some, and
Speaker 1: Troy goes on, I don't know you. You need to
Speaker 1: wear some gloves and the guy goes, no, I don't
Speaker 1: need to wear gloves. So I was standing on the
Speaker 1: sideline and I was thinking, well, I can go out
Speaker 1: there and catch a few. I was up close and
Speaker 1: personal to a few of the passes he was thrown,
Speaker 1: and I said, ain't no way. I need these hands
Speaker 1: for my living. I am not going to go out there.
Speaker 1: This poor guy's hands were beat red before Babe got
Speaker 1: there with his gloves on to catch. So, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not catching Deak. I haven't seen him throw the football.
Speaker 1: I've seen him do his rehab work, and he's moving
Speaker 1: awfully well on the field, doing his different exercises that
Speaker 1: Britt Brown has him going through. And as I've said previously,
Speaker 1: I had to remind myself did he hurt his left
Speaker 1: foot or his right foot, because you can't tell the difference.
Speaker 1: So that's a good sign. Oh that's taking place. I
Speaker 1: have a I have a nice little, uh Doug Williams
Speaker 1: story for you. You know, he used to throw extremely hard.
Speaker 1: Of course, being at Grambley, he was the first black
Speaker 1: college quarterback to be up for the heisman. So everything
Speaker 1: in practice was about coach Eddie Robinson showcasing Doug Williams.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had a lot of people come to town,
Speaker 1: earth Cross, Jane Kennedy, Mussburg, all those guys would come
Speaker 1: to town to see this, uh, this black Moses is
Speaker 1: what I called him. And so he ended up every
Speaker 1: time he throw the ball to the wide receivers, they
Speaker 1: will all have the same reaction as trying to catch
Speaker 1: choice passes as as a young man did. And I
Speaker 1: recall Mike Moore. He bugging the heck out of me.
Speaker 1: He calls me all the time. He's a big mouth
Speaker 1: tight end that we had the Grammy that I loved
Speaker 1: to death. One of those guys that kept everything going.
Speaker 1: He had to take these two fingers together because that
Speaker 1: was a slit coming down his finger from trying to
Speaker 1: catch Doug Williams passes. I mean, you could just see it.
Speaker 1: That was That was that was blood here from where
Speaker 1: the ball, the point of the ball would hit his
Speaker 1: hands when he tried to come back and catch the
Speaker 1: curl route. And that was to me, that was typical
Speaker 1: of a Doug Williams pass. So you talk about Troy Agman, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Doug might have turned it up just a
Speaker 1: little bit more in regards to the comparisons. Actually, at
Speaker 1: one of those quarterback school sessions that turned into OTA's
Speaker 1: in Alvin Harper's rookie year, so I'm guessing that was
Speaker 1: ninety one, he was out there catching Troy passes and
Speaker 1: Elvin's got huge hands, right, which means long fingers, And
Speaker 1: he caught a Troy pass and the cone of the
Speaker 1: football went between his two fingers and split the webbing
Speaker 1: and blood start flying all over the place. And and
Speaker 1: that should have been That should have been sign enough
Speaker 1: that when I was there in ninety three not even
Speaker 1: to consider catching one of his pants. Oh man, So Bill,
Speaker 1: how are your hands? My hands are just fine because
Speaker 1: I haven't been in the way of a Troy Achman
Speaker 1: pass in my life, or you know, Uh, it's kind
Speaker 1: of bringing it back to the draft. I think Gil
Speaker 1: Brandt may say to this day that Troy Aikman had
Speaker 1: the best workout he has ever seen leading up to
Speaker 1: the draft, even here thirty thirty two years later. Uh
Speaker 1: that and and so maybe that's that's the real test.
Speaker 1: Is you get someone who's not usually a receiver, doesn't
Speaker 1: have the calloused hands, and uh, and that's how you
Speaker 1: can decide whether a quarterback has has what it takes
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback in this league, the league the
Speaker 1: velocity on his footballs, because uh, first one makes your
Speaker 1: hands bleed. He's your top pick. Maybe Trevor Lawrence can
Speaker 1: do that too. Well, you know what Troy too, By
Speaker 1: the way, he was so accurate. So practices, you know,
Speaker 1: the ball rarely hit the ground, and that that first
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in ninety two, early in the week they
Speaker 1: were practicing and a couple of his passes hit the ground,
Speaker 1: and I remember North Turner telling the story, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: is he nervous? What's going on? We'll never score a touchdown?
Speaker 1: You know, he might have missed two passes in practice
Speaker 1: that he's normally used to not missing. So but anyway,
Speaker 1: I had a thought, I just had a thought, right,
Speaker 1: quicks facts. Has Gil Brandt ever played one minute of
Speaker 1: any sports? Don't believe so. You know, I've never thought
Speaker 1: about that until now, Like has he has he ever
Speaker 1: call the pass? Has he ever run one step in
Speaker 1: his life? I mean, come on, for someone that's supposed
Speaker 1: to judge talons so much, I've never heard of his
Speaker 1: own individual athletic prowess. So tell me you've got some
Speaker 1: background on Gil Grant and being an athlete when he
Speaker 1: was growing up wherever the heck he grew up in.
Speaker 1: He grew up in the outside of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, And
Speaker 1: I have not seen any evidence that he played the
Speaker 1: game in football a uniform, a uniform on any team
Speaker 1: or I mean anybody, mascot, come on, anything? Better watch
Speaker 1: your gated of the University of Wisconsin. Right well, I
Speaker 1: bet I better do what I was gonna say. You
Speaker 1: better watch out because he's he reads and listen. I
Speaker 1: got it. I got it, Hey, I got it. What
Speaker 1: he got I got it from Wikipedia. If you can
Speaker 1: trust Wikipedia, ever Son, you'll love this all right. Gil,
Speaker 1: a native of Milwaukee, attended North Division High School, where
Speaker 1: he was a one hundred and fifty pounds starting defensive back.
Speaker 1: He also lettered in basketball and track. He enrolled at
Speaker 1: the University of Wisconsin but left after two years. So
Speaker 1: there you have it, the athletic history of the great deal.
Speaker 1: And he turned into a base that was that was
Speaker 1: very base. Yeah, and then he then it was that
Speaker 1: background as a defensive back that led Gilbrandt to signing
Speaker 1: Everson Walls real Okay, didn't draft him, but signed him
Speaker 1: as an undrafted free agent out of gram Yeah. All right. Uh,
Speaker 1: speaking of quarterbacks, the fact that there could be five
Speaker 1: quarterbacks taken in the top nine picks of this draft
Speaker 1: affects the Cowboys, who could have the pick of the
Speaker 1: letter as far as defensive players go, when they pick
Speaker 1: at number ten. All right, don't I don't know if
Speaker 1: either of you have how much you have studied the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: since the Cowboys are not in the market for one
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks. But do you think there will actually
Speaker 1: be five quarterbacks taken in the top nine picks? And
Speaker 1: if there is not one taken, which one was most
Speaker 1: likely to fall out of the top ten? What do
Speaker 1: you think? I would think the guy that might fall
Speaker 1: to ten if it's not in the top nine would
Speaker 1: be Trey Lance just because of he hasn't had that
Speaker 1: much exposure to college football, only played what a game
Speaker 1: last year and then one season, So I would think
Speaker 1: if somebody really liked him, then that number ten pick
Speaker 1: could be pretty expensive real estate if somebody wanted to
Speaker 1: move up to grab him, because they know the Cowboys
Speaker 1: aren't going to take them, and if the Cowboys just
Speaker 1: trade it down a little bit, they know who's ever
Speaker 1: coming up. It's going to take a quarterback. So if
Speaker 1: you don't fall down too many picks, you still may
Speaker 1: get your choice of one of the top three defensive
Speaker 1: players in this draft, which the Cowboys certainly would like.
Speaker 1: You know. I was listening to Stephen Jones yesterday on
Speaker 1: one oh five three the Fan. He's been doing some
Speaker 1: interviews pre draft stuff, and he said, looking at what's
Speaker 1: going on with the quarterbacks, he goes, this should be
Speaker 1: pushing some defensive football players our direction, meaning if you
Speaker 1: get a couple of four or five quarterbacks, two wide receivers,
Speaker 1: a couple offensive lineman, suddenly get to nine and ten
Speaker 1: and you may have the pick of that top defensive player.
Speaker 1: Thought it was pretty interesting listening to him basically saying
Speaker 1: buying anything opportunistic, we certainly want to improve our defensive
Speaker 1: football team and those are words for this team to
Speaker 1: live by. By the way, going into this draft, I'm
Speaker 1: feeling kind of different about Trey Lance. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you look at it, he's really just a comparison to
Speaker 1: a Carson Wentz, you know, coming from a smaller school,
Speaker 1: smaller conference, old school one doble a That's that's what
Speaker 1: I call it, and just showing what a great athlete
Speaker 1: he is, what a great winner that he is in
Speaker 1: all the years that he was in college. I look,
Speaker 1: if someone grabs him, they're they're getting a complete athlete,
Speaker 1: They're getting a complete football player. You call Randall l
Speaker 1: Back in the day with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was
Speaker 1: able to do so many things, but they put him
Speaker 1: at wide receiver in order to do that, and he
Speaker 1: was able to throw the ball on his verses and
Speaker 1: trick plays. I don't think Trey Lance is looking forward
Speaker 1: to that, and I think he's trying to be more
Speaker 1: of a traditional quarterback, just like a Carston Wentz. And
Speaker 1: then you start looking at fields the way they have
Speaker 1: been talking so negatively about him for someone that came
Speaker 1: through the Big Ten and you know, played the national
Speaker 1: championship games and showed his worth on the field. It's
Speaker 1: funny how his practices and his workouts have not impressed.
Speaker 1: So that's the difference between whether Troy Aikman did back
Speaker 1: in the day by uplifting his value by having great
Speaker 1: workouts as opposed to fields who. I guess he's not
Speaker 1: having those type of workouts that Troy Aman may have had,
Speaker 1: and now his stock is really dropping. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he improved himself in a set I can work out,
Speaker 1: but that first workout had everybody on panic mode. So Bill,
Speaker 1: what's the Big three notebook say on these quarterbacks? Well, well,
Speaker 1: the first on on Trey Lance. Uh. You know the
Speaker 1: interesting thing about him, as you alluded to, I mean,
Speaker 1: he just had the one game that North Dakota State
Speaker 1: played in the fall sixteen game season the prior year.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's only played because they won the national
Speaker 1: championship and they have a playoff in that FCS imagine
Speaker 1: L sixteen games, So that was that was his only
Speaker 1: season to play. And uh, and so here's the amazing
Speaker 1: thing about him is that, and which shows how much
Speaker 1: he has shown as far as his athletic ability and
Speaker 1: everything that NFL teams look for in a quarterback everything
Speaker 1: that goes with that. He's only thrown three hundred eighteen
Speaker 1: passes in his college career. That's amazing that he's even
Speaker 1: being considered as the top of the draft type quarterback
Speaker 1: when he's only thrown three hundred eighteen passes. Uh And
Speaker 1: because someone has to really be sold on his potential
Speaker 1: to stand on the table and tell an owner that, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to take the you know, the fourth pick
Speaker 1: in the draft, or the ninth pick in the draft,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, We're going to take a quarterback who's
Speaker 1: only thrown three hundred eighteen passes. Uh. I When when
Speaker 1: I look at him, I think he compares a lot
Speaker 1: with Dak prescott Um. And you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: anything about him as far as you know. What is
Speaker 1: off the charts with Dak, as we quickly discovered, was
Speaker 1: his leadership ability and his work ethic. And that's why
Speaker 1: Dak has become what he has become now the only
Speaker 1: the only quarterback left standing from that twenty and sixteen
Speaker 1: draft with and uh and so so that that helps
Speaker 1: Lance because we've seen it before. Where because because the
Speaker 1: thing that that but but you think about dak at
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, he had a lot more skins on the
Speaker 1: wall than what Trey Lance has in college, even with
Speaker 1: Lance winning a national championship at North Dakota State, but
Speaker 1: they ran him a lot. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: zone read stuff and so you know, he had over
Speaker 1: a thousand yards rushing that season. We all know that
Speaker 1: you can't run the football in the NFL to that extent,
Speaker 1: but it does enhance his game. Um, it's just going
Speaker 1: to be very interesting to see where he lands. And
Speaker 1: I agree with you Mickey that if there is one
Speaker 1: that's going to fall out of the top ten, assuming
Speaker 1: that Shanahan is going to take mac Jones at number three,
Speaker 1: then I think Trey Lance is the most likely to
Speaker 1: fall out of the top ten, just because of the
Speaker 1: fact that there's there's such a small sampling of what
Speaker 1: he did in college. Yeah, and you probably need a
Speaker 1: team that says, Okay, he doesn't have to be my
Speaker 1: day one starter. You know, a team that has a
Speaker 1: veteran there that can kind of bridge the gap to
Speaker 1: get him to go. So I just think if he's
Speaker 1: still sitting, there's somebody in those early teens might come
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys and say, okay, what about a trade.
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones was asked about if he getting any phone calls.
Speaker 1: He said, well, he said, the phone's not ringing that much,
Speaker 1: but it will probably heat up next week when you
Speaker 1: get kind of closer to the draft. But you know what,
Speaker 1: here's my deal. If somebody's wanting to move up to
Speaker 1: tend to take a quarterback, they're gonna have to pay
Speaker 1: a king's ransom to get my spot. You know, this
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be Wow. They're moving up three or four
Speaker 1: spots and they're taking you know, an offensive tackle or
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. This is a quarterback, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: pay the price to be able to get a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And it's going to include multiple first round picks. I
Speaker 1: guarantee you that, if, if, if, you're gonna encourage me
Speaker 1: to move. Also, since we're on quarterbacks, you know, Stephen
Speaker 1: was asked about the possibility of drafting the quarterback and
Speaker 1: he said, probably not going to be real early in
Speaker 1: the draft. But he goes, you know, middle middle rounds
Speaker 1: to late rounds. Will keep an eye on a guy
Speaker 1: because you always want to have guys in here to compete.
Speaker 1: Even if you had a veteran guy there. You want
Speaker 1: somebody to compete, so, uh, you know, it's not out
Speaker 1: of the realm of possibility that they actually do that.
Speaker 1: And I better raise my hand because that no one
Speaker 1: thinks I'm in here. If there's no motion in this room,
Speaker 1: the lights somehow go off and you got to wave
Speaker 1: your hands get back on. If you noticed there was
Speaker 1: a little bit of a blackout there. Oh that's funny.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see what happens with
Speaker 1: the with the quarterbacks and how many Go ahead, Bill,
Speaker 1: I have a question, Bill, all right. You know I'm
Speaker 1: always trying to get you guys to do research. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure you guys will throw this back in my lap.
Speaker 1: But I'll say this. In the past, let's say three years,
Speaker 1: how many teams that took a quarterback in the first round, uh,
Speaker 1: still made the playoffs? Let me let me that first year,
Speaker 1: any teams? Yes, And how many teams that were not
Speaker 1: in the playoffs the previous year that took a quarterback
Speaker 1: to so they can improve their their position and still
Speaker 1: did not make the playoffs that following year? About drafting
Speaker 1: a quarterback to come in and start and and you
Speaker 1: know right away Uh, you know, like a like a
Speaker 1: like Cincinnati last year. Uh they did Man got hurt.
Speaker 1: Even though he got hurt, you know, they weren't They
Speaker 1: still weren't able to make the playoff. You know that.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm trying to point out. You know, we've
Speaker 1: got this emphasis on taking quarterbacks in the first round.
Speaker 1: How much has it improved their fortune as far as
Speaker 1: the entire NFL is concerned. I would love to see
Speaker 1: how those seasons worked out, because you know, you want
Speaker 1: these You throw these guys in there right away thinking
Speaker 1: that they're ready to play, and then they're going to
Speaker 1: be a savior for your organization. I mean, how many
Speaker 1: times that work out? New York Giants with Jones? You
Speaker 1: know that's another one. Yeah, but ever said. What you
Speaker 1: have to remember, though, is the reason you're drafting high
Speaker 1: and the ability to get a quarterback is you were bad.
Speaker 1: And it's not just bad because you didn't have a quarterback.
Speaker 1: You were just a bad team, right, Cincinnati, prime example,
Speaker 1: the Giants, a prime example. Now the Jets. Yeah, Now,
Speaker 1: if you were a good team and you were able
Speaker 1: to trade up to go get one, then that's a
Speaker 1: different story. Or you can have fourth round quarterback and
Speaker 1: you've made the playoffs. Right. But but but my thing is, uh,
Speaker 1: does the quarterback position have to be the priority? Sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta get that old lineman first instead of going
Speaker 1: out to a quarterback like a Sam Donald who was
Speaker 1: never able to develop. I think it sometimes hurts these
Speaker 1: players overall development when we throw them into the fire
Speaker 1: right away thinking they're gonna save our organization, and not
Speaker 1: only do they not save it. A lot of times
Speaker 1: disaster happens, you know, like right now with the Giants,
Speaker 1: even though they kicked out Butts. So we can't I
Speaker 1: can't talk too much about this year, but you're talking
Speaker 1: about the you know Jones being the quarterback there. You know,
Speaker 1: did he improve their position at all by drafting him
Speaker 1: in the first round and making him play from snap one?
Speaker 1: You know, these are kind of things that are the
Speaker 1: prevalent in the NFL. But how successful is it making
Speaker 1: these teams? Well, that's my point. Here's the double edged sword.
Speaker 1: Did that number one? You're right drafting him and throwing
Speaker 1: them in there before they're ready, and you ruin a quarterback, right,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. But the problem is because you take
Speaker 1: a guy with the first, second, third pick in the draft,
Speaker 1: everybody expects you to start the guy right away, and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of quarterback careers have been ruined
Speaker 1: by that. But on the other side, what happens is
Speaker 1: if you're not taking a quarterback in the first round,
Speaker 1: and because everybody needs a quarterback, I guarantee you the
Speaker 1: rate of failure from the third round down is pretty
Speaker 1: darn high. So there's just not enough quarterbacks and you
Speaker 1: better get one in the first round. Traditionally, right, the
Speaker 1: odds are with you that you're gonna hit, but the
Speaker 1: odds of hitting with somebody after the second round not
Speaker 1: real good. That's why the Dak Prescott thing is almost
Speaker 1: a minor miracle. Uh these days in there it really is.
Speaker 1: No Well, that's that's certain circumstances brought him down to
Speaker 1: the fourth round. You know that where he made a
Speaker 1: couple of mistakes. I think in college, I think you
Speaker 1: have dw I is something that affected everything and so
Speaker 1: he dropped for some really really far because of that.
Speaker 1: In fraction if I'm not mistaken, but I'm sure that
Speaker 1: if you take a look at some examples of a
Speaker 1: team that decided that, you know what, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: against the Grand We're not gonna pick a quarterback. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go with one of the baddest offensive tackles we
Speaker 1: have in college right now, or one of the baddest
Speaker 1: linebackers we have. And so the culture is shifted now
Speaker 1: they say, Okay, we're gonna start with the offensive lineman first,
Speaker 1: or we're gonna show up our defense first, and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the importance of having a quarterback.
Speaker 1: They're happy teams that have gone that woll correct and
Speaker 1: been successful at it. They created the whole new culture
Speaker 1: in the organization. Not a lot of them. All right,
Speaker 1: well you're go ahead, Mickey. No, I just said, not
Speaker 1: a lot of them have gone that route. It's like,
Speaker 1: let me get the quarterback, then I'll fill in after that. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me let me throw this in. All right, I've
Speaker 1: got I'm doing my little research here as you've been
Speaker 1: talking on. All right, these are quarterback. These are the
Speaker 1: number one overall quarterbacks. Okay, they're not all of the
Speaker 1: first rounders that I've been able to research while you've
Speaker 1: been talking, but the recent number one overall draft pick quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and how did their team do the season that they
Speaker 1: were drafted? Okay, and Joe Burrow. Last year the Bengals
Speaker 1: went four eleven and one. Kyler Murray the year before
Speaker 1: five ten and one is what the Cardinals went. Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield the year before, the Browns went seven, eight and one.
Speaker 1: That year, the year twenty and sixteen, Jared Goff, the
Speaker 1: Rams went four and twelve. I believe that year, Okay,
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston uh six and ten in twenty fifteen. Then
Speaker 1: you go back to Andrew Luck. In twenty twelve, the
Speaker 1: Colts went eleven and five and made the playoffs when
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck was the overall number one draft pick. So
Speaker 1: that was nine years an look at that, Well, it's
Speaker 1: good think about this for the Browns if you're talking
Speaker 1: about the Browns going seven to eight and one, and
Speaker 1: it was probably an improvement, right, true? True? And then
Speaker 1: those other guys that most of the majority of those
Speaker 1: other guys still haven't panned out, have they? And but see,
Speaker 1: when you start looking at this from an analytic standpoint,
Speaker 1: usually they would take take those numbers that Bill read out,
Speaker 1: which is pretty telling, and say, you know what, maybe
Speaker 1: we need to change the direction here. Now. I will
Speaker 1: say some of those teams improved the second year and
Speaker 1: in the third year, Yes, I will say that, But
Speaker 1: did they improve because they showed up the rest of
Speaker 1: the team And would they have improved quicker if they
Speaker 1: would have gone with other positions first to show up
Speaker 1: the team and then pick a quarterback some other time.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. It's a way for it's
Speaker 1: a way to look at numbers. That's one thing. Again,
Speaker 1: changed the way it can benefit you and to benefit
Speaker 1: your argument. But to me, what Bill Jones just read out,
Speaker 1: that's that argument right there has merit like maybe we
Speaker 1: should go another direction. I mean, I'm sorry that that
Speaker 1: argument right there, those numbers that Bill just called out,
Speaker 1: that's pretty telling stuff right there. Guys. That's that's just ignored.
Speaker 1: And we're still on this quarter the bad thing as
Speaker 1: opposed to, you know, going with the you're gonna put
Speaker 1: a quarterback back there and you still have a crappy
Speaker 1: offensive line. There's nothing to QB can do about that
Speaker 1: but get hurt. So I don't know, man, to me,
Speaker 1: it seems like analytics aren't working in misregard. They're not
Speaker 1: using it in the same manner as they use it
Speaker 1: this far as calling the football game. That's just my opinion.
Speaker 1: I can go a little step further with it. Cam
Speaker 1: Newton in twenty eleven Panthers went six and ten his
Speaker 1: first year. Sam Bradford the Rams went seven and nine.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford the Lions went two and fourteen, and jam
Speaker 1: Marcus Russell JaMarcus Russell four and twelve. Time Sleep at Times,
Speaker 1: Sleep at time. So the Dallas and the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: one in fifteen. So it doesn't always hold. It doesn't
Speaker 1: always hold. Yeah, and then Alex Smith the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers were four and twelve. So we've taken you back
Speaker 1: to two thousand and five. There, all right, We've got
Speaker 1: much more mixed shots coming up in just a moment. Honey,
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Speaker 1: now nine days away from the first round of the
Speaker 1: National Football League Draft. All Right. In the break, I
Speaker 1: did a little more research. I took you back to
Speaker 1: two thousand and four on that quarterback. This is your
Speaker 1: first round top of the first Round Quarterback Challenge here
Speaker 1: and two thousand and four. That was the year Eli
Speaker 1: Manning was the number one overall pick. Of the San
Speaker 1: Diego Chargers traded to the Giants. Philip Rivers was the
Speaker 1: pick of the Chargers in two thousand and four Eli Manning.
Speaker 1: The Giants went six and ten after making the Eli
Speaker 1: Manning pick. The Chargers, however, went twelve and four that year,
Speaker 1: and they drafted Philip Rivers. That's right, there's a big
Speaker 1: difference there. Though Philip Rivers did not play. Drew Brees
Speaker 1: was the quarterback real Q Goodwin william I like that.
Speaker 1: So there you go. So so here you go. We're
Speaker 1: talking about Trey Lance. The best place for Trey Lance
Speaker 1: might be with a team that's already got a quarterback,
Speaker 1: so that he can learn underneath that quarterback, and then
Speaker 1: he gets an opportunity that may be the way to go.
Speaker 1: I mean, Trey Lance might have the most successful any
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks if he goes that way. Case in point,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes placed behind Alex Smith the first year and
Speaker 1: then his lights out when he finally gets an opportunity
Speaker 1: to play. So basically what you're saying is the Washington's
Speaker 1: will move up and take Trey Lawrence and Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: I mean, because they got Ryan Fitzpatrick to man the
Speaker 1: ship in the meantime. Okay, I gotta get this the
Speaker 1: Dolphins last year. Yeah, I gotta get this off my
Speaker 1: chest here, and I want you guys to figure out
Speaker 1: if my logic is just totally off base. So yesterday
Speaker 1: was the start of the basically offseason workouts, and nineteen
Speaker 1: teams have decided that they don't want to participate in
Speaker 1: the offseason workouts. The Cowboys, on the other hand, for
Speaker 1: these last two days, they've got a morning workout session,
Speaker 1: afternoon workout session. And if I'm just kind of coming
Speaker 1: up with a ballpark figure, they've probably had fifteen guys
Speaker 1: working out in each session. And what's going on now
Speaker 1: in the first phase, Let's be clear, the first phase
Speaker 1: is basically strength and conditioning, all right, just strength and conditioning.
Speaker 1: What the part we see The guys are out on
Speaker 1: the field doing They're running exercises, different kind of routines.
Speaker 1: And then if there's any meetings afterwards, those meetings are virtual, right, Well,
Speaker 1: the nfl PA has come out and say they want
Speaker 1: a total, total virtual offseason, just like last year. Okay,
Speaker 1: my question is, how do you do strength and conditioning virtually?
Speaker 1: Like are you gonna sit there and they're gonna film
Speaker 1: you while you're doing what the strength and conditioning coach says.
Speaker 1: And they're talking about And they had a pretty lengthy
Speaker 1: media conference yesterday with Demorris Smith and J. C. U. Tetter.
Speaker 1: Tretter the president, the player president for the NFLPA, and
Speaker 1: all they kept saying is, you know, they want the
Speaker 1: players safe in the offseason, this and that. Okay, so
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning, If if you're coming into the facility
Speaker 1: to lift weights and run under their jurisdics and jurisdiction
Speaker 1: of the strength and conditioning coach, you're getting tested every day, right,
Speaker 1: You're you're You're not You're You're not just coming in
Speaker 1: and being around a bunch of people that you may
Speaker 1: end up getting infected. Right, So if if, if, if
Speaker 1: that's not the safest environment to do your strength and conditioning,
Speaker 1: what is And if you're doing on your own, where
Speaker 1: are you working out? Because not everybody has a home gym, right,
Speaker 1: and not everybody's gonna run is hard as you do
Speaker 1: when you got fifteen guys along with you, So to me,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. And they talked about guys working
Speaker 1: out on their own. Have any of you guys been
Speaker 1: in a gym lately to work out because the PANDEC
Speaker 1: it's over. At least where I go, ain't nobody even
Speaker 1: got a mask on. They're not testing temperatures or anything.
Speaker 1: So how is that safer in the offseason to get
Speaker 1: ready for a football season then coming into the facility.
Speaker 1: So I just think there's a little bit of BS
Speaker 1: going on here. And Everson, I know you're a big
Speaker 1: union guy, but the nfl PA, to me, is trying
Speaker 1: to come out and Smith D. Smith said yesterday, this
Speaker 1: is not a boycott. This is just talent players to
Speaker 1: do what's safest for them. Okay, I get it. But
Speaker 1: the other thing I get is they're trying to appease
Speaker 1: their membership for that seventeenth game getting approved. Right, they
Speaker 1: did a trade out, they did some finance, they got
Speaker 1: some financial concessions to give the owners the right to
Speaker 1: give them a seventeenth game. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they're worried about their offseason and staying healthy. Well, how
Speaker 1: do you stay healthy working out on your own? Now
Speaker 1: I get the OTA parts. I was never a fan
Speaker 1: of OTAs. If you were going to do OTAs, the
Speaker 1: OTAs should be like walkthroughs, right, But they put a
Speaker 1: helmet on, and all of a sudden, you know, guys
Speaker 1: will be guys right, and suddenly you start getting competitive
Speaker 1: and guys are jumping and leaping for catches and falling
Speaker 1: on their shoulders without you know, and got shoulder pads on.
Speaker 1: So I get that part of it, But I don't
Speaker 1: get these four weeks of not participating and strength and
Speaker 1: conditioning and you're telling me that helps your body be
Speaker 1: ready for the start of training camp. I just don't
Speaker 1: get that part of this whole deal. I hear what
Speaker 1: you're saying, Spags, And like you said, heavy union guy
Speaker 1: was a union rep for the Cowboys back in eighty
Speaker 1: seven during the whole scrub thing scap thing. But what
Speaker 1: you found out, as they found out in education, they
Speaker 1: found out it was safer for the kids to go
Speaker 1: to school as opposed to staying home from school and
Speaker 1: learning virtually. They found out that as you come to school,
Speaker 1: you have all the mechanisms in place, the protocols in place,
Speaker 1: as you said, in regards to testing and things of
Speaker 1: that nature. To me, it's a no win situation because
Speaker 1: you can still have those problems, you can still infect
Speaker 1: others while you have practice together. Because you can bring
Speaker 1: that from home to the practice field. But either way,
Speaker 1: if you go home and work out, you won't be
Speaker 1: as competitive, that's very true. You won't improve as well
Speaker 1: by just working out on your own, that's also very truth,
Speaker 1: unless you're an extremely unique player who's very motivated, which
Speaker 1: a lot of are motivated, but just the odds of
Speaker 1: that happening are very high. I do understand the concern there.
Speaker 1: To me, like I said, it's a no win situation.
Speaker 1: You can get it at home and bring it there,
Speaker 1: or you can come and work out with some guys
Speaker 1: who brought it to the practice field and then you
Speaker 1: could take it home. So those kind of things are
Speaker 1: still a concern here. And you know it's when it's
Speaker 1: all said and done, the union's just reacting to the
Speaker 1: way society is. If we could have had this thing
Speaker 1: under control by now, by everyone doing the right thing,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't even be having this conversation, Spadge. So that's
Speaker 1: like trying to put out a fire that started a
Speaker 1: long time ago and it's still burning way back there
Speaker 1: and now you're trying to control it here in the present.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's still tough either way. Spadge and
Speaker 1: I do agree in part with what you're saying, But
Speaker 1: what do you do? What is the alternative? Well, to me,
Speaker 1: if you're coming into the facility, you're getting tested every day,
Speaker 1: You're not getting tested going anywhere else. So to me,
Speaker 1: how is that safer? And in a letter that Demorris
Speaker 1: Smith and J. C. Teter sent out to the union members,
Speaker 1: there's a sentence in here that says it is the
Speaker 1: recommendation of the nfl PA, based on our medical experts
Speaker 1: advice that if the voluntary offseason program is in persons
Speaker 1: in person, players should not attend. Now they may choose
Speaker 1: whatever word they want that it's a personal decision. And
Speaker 1: he didn't like it during the press conference yesterday when
Speaker 1: somebody mentioned it was a boycott. This is not a boycott,
Speaker 1: this is not a strike. This is personal preference. I
Speaker 1: get it. But you're telling guys that the nfl PA
Speaker 1: COVID Committee that we that we suggest they have an
Speaker 1: entirely virtual off season. Once again, I get it. On
Speaker 1: the OTA practices and maybe the mini camps and how
Speaker 1: they how they do those things, but strength and conditioning,
Speaker 1: to me, that does not having that doesn't help you prepare.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what you did in the
Speaker 1: off season because you didn't have OTAs or quarterback schools
Speaker 1: back then, right, you were on your own. We had
Speaker 1: mini camps. You had a mini camps like a couple, right,
Speaker 1: that was a couple of mini camps. Yes, we did.
Speaker 1: That's true because I remember, gosh, I can't remember who
Speaker 1: it was one of the linebackers back in the seventies.
Speaker 1: Um oh, gosh uh and and I asked them, no
Speaker 1: one in Hollywood. It was the guy from Mississippi State,
Speaker 1: go barn, No, it was from Mississippi State. Lewis. Did
Speaker 1: Lewis Lewis? I asked D. D Lewis. I asked D. D.
Speaker 1: Lewis one time in an interview. I said, so in
Speaker 1: the off season, what did you to get ready? And
Speaker 1: he goes, well, he goes every day, at least for
Speaker 1: a couple hours. I would sit in the pool and
Speaker 1: do twelve ounts curls. That was his offseason. D D.
Speaker 1: Lewis to the athletes these days, that is extremely unfair.
Speaker 1: Please don't compare DD Lewis's off season. You know, come on,
Speaker 1: man an. So that was the but no better then,
Speaker 1: you know, if training camp was to get ready for
Speaker 1: the season. Now you want to be running before you
Speaker 1: go to training camp, right, So I just don't get
Speaker 1: the logic behind the whole thing. Plus that basically the
Speaker 1: NFL has basically said all tier one and Tier two employees,
Speaker 1: so that's all coaches, anybody else that is around the
Speaker 1: players on a daily basis that they have to be
Speaker 1: vaccinated and if they're not vaccinated, then they can be
Speaker 1: around the players on a daily basis. And they're saying,
Speaker 1: we're not requiring you to be vaccinated, We're just suggesting
Speaker 1: to be around the players that you better be vaccinated
Speaker 1: otherwise you've got to do your job from a fire,
Speaker 1: which I think is a pretty good move. And they
Speaker 1: basically are telling teams to make sure that they're educating
Speaker 1: all their employees to get vaccinated, not requiring it, but
Speaker 1: educating them to the point of holding vaccination sites at
Speaker 1: your facility to help everyone get vaccinated, including family members.
Speaker 1: So they've taken that step. But now to say, now
Speaker 1: you know what, I want to get paid two hundred,
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy four two hundred and seventy five
Speaker 1: dollars a day in the offseason for virtual workouts, go
Speaker 1: ask some teachers how well students pay attention when they're
Speaker 1: zooming classes. I had one teacher telling me that, you
Speaker 1: know what, how do I get kids not to fall
Speaker 1: asleep during my lesson? Because I'll look up and I
Speaker 1: get there, there's a kid's sleeping, right, and there's no
Speaker 1: parent there to wake him up. And some guys don't,
Speaker 1: and I'll be one of them. I can sit in
Speaker 1: a class and watch it on a screen. I learned
Speaker 1: better if I'm actually doing it, like if you got
Speaker 1: me on the field walking me through steps. And I
Speaker 1: remember back in the gosh, I can't remember. It was
Speaker 1: late nineties. Maybe the Cowboys had a running back and
Speaker 1: he was local. It was a free agent, and they
Speaker 1: finally decided figured out that he learned better on the
Speaker 1: field instructions then he did looking at a video or uh,
Speaker 1: you know a grease screen or whatever they call it
Speaker 1: in diagram. Yeah, it's like it wasn't it was Thompson.
Speaker 1: It was Thompson. You're right from Irving, Irving Mccarvinghchool. I
Speaker 1: know it was Irving High School. No, they would love
Speaker 1: to a Vattie Matt mccarthur, but five hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: five yards in one game in high school. I think
Speaker 1: it was probably against MacArthur. So anyway, I just I
Speaker 1: just don't I just don't understand the logic of this
Speaker 1: whole thing. But now I think you brought up a
Speaker 1: good point. It's all about the vaccinations. I mean, let's
Speaker 1: be real, if you're talking about vaccinations being there, then
Speaker 1: no one's going to even make this argument at all.
Speaker 1: All excuses will be out of the window. So that's
Speaker 1: the magic word of there. Man. The vaccinations must be done,
Speaker 1: at least be educated on it. And if you're gonna
Speaker 1: put out a mandate as opposed to putting out a
Speaker 1: virtual of minicamp, I think the mandate should be or
Speaker 1: at least the importance should be on everyone getting vaccinated,
Speaker 1: not just to when you say, I'm sure you talking
Speaker 1: about players as well, I'm assuming if you're talking that,
Speaker 1: but the players should be vaccinated and their families. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's out there for everyone right now, so to me,
Speaker 1: no excuses for that. This off season. The vaccinations should
Speaker 1: be the priority, not necessarily whether the workouts are virtual
Speaker 1: or not, because if we get the vaccinations done, then yeah,
Speaker 1: OTAs can be virtual. But then as we improve into
Speaker 1: the as we get into the off season, further into
Speaker 1: the off season, then you maybe you're looking at the
Speaker 1: change of mindset. You're looking at a change of mindset
Speaker 1: and all the leadership, and then we can go back
Speaker 1: to being being normal, so to speak. You know. And
Speaker 1: their other point was not having it was having a
Speaker 1: virtual offseason improved play. I don't know what they were watching, right,
Speaker 1: It certainly wasn't this team, I guarantee you that. And
Speaker 1: what they wanted to point out to mention the injuries, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to mention, and they said the injuries went down. I
Speaker 1: don't see where injuries went down didn't apply to this team, right,
Speaker 1: that is a lie? Yeah, And they pointed out that
Speaker 1: pain the teams were so good. They scored more points
Speaker 1: in any NFL season twelve thousand, six hundred and ninety two,
Speaker 1: and there was an average of forty nine point six
Speaker 1: points scored a game, the highest since nineteen seventy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know why they scored so many points because the
Speaker 1: defenses were so terrible. Yeah, so that doesn't make better football.
Speaker 1: I just don't agree with their argument. And then one
Speaker 1: other thing on this vaccine, I know we probably got
Speaker 1: to go here, but I saw where the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: have basically put out a mandate and said if fans
Speaker 1: are not vaccinated, they will not be able to attend
Speaker 1: Bills games. And they're getting ready to use something called
Speaker 1: an Excelsior Pass app and it's only for people. It's
Speaker 1: eligible for people that live in the state of New York.
Speaker 1: And they said there'll be no exceptions, not religious or medical.
Speaker 1: Either you're vaccinated or you're not going to be allowed
Speaker 1: into the games, and you have to have the app
Speaker 1: to show people that you've been vaccinated. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's extreme or not, but that's the step
Speaker 1: they're taken in Buffalo. We don't have time to get
Speaker 1: into this. But what do they do about people who
Speaker 1: have had COVID and are not a candidate to be vaccinated?
Speaker 1: Haven't heard that part yet, Okay, all right, that's something
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Speaker 1: the draft, and Mickey, you're Stephen Jones talking defense, defense, defense,
Speaker 1: So what about an offensive lineman. When you want to
Speaker 1: take your offensive lineman in this draft, I would take
Speaker 1: one as early in the second round, maybe the third
Speaker 1: or fourth. I would take an offensive tackle. And I
Speaker 1: don't have to have the best offensive tackle or the
Speaker 1: second best. Just give me somebody that has some quality better,
Speaker 1: better than any of these swing tackles the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: employed over the last four years. That's all I'm asking for.
Speaker 1: A guy that can step in and be my swing tackle.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to start. He would have the capability
Speaker 1: of playing a little guard maybe if if, if needed.
Speaker 1: But again, that backup offensive tackle spot, to me is
Speaker 1: the one spot that they need to take care of
Speaker 1: in this draft that I need somebody that can play.
Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be a first rounder, maybe not even
Speaker 1: a second rounder, but third, fourth. Give me somebody that
Speaker 1: I can sink my teeth into to grooming as we
Speaker 1: move forward. And I'm sure there's some guys there that
Speaker 1: you know they'll have something wrong with them, but you
Speaker 1: figure out they've got some traits that you can work
Speaker 1: with better than undrafted free agents that the Cowboys had
Speaker 1: to start last year at both spots when with Eric
Speaker 1: Williams drafted third round, Bard round. Yeah, that's a good pick.
Speaker 1: Glary a second round, Adam's second round, Solomon Page second round,
Speaker 1: and a bunch of those guys started at guard before
Speaker 1: they moved out to tackle too. By the way, So
Speaker 1: are any of those guys out there now? I mean
Speaker 1: in the second, third round? You know, Bill up those guys.
Speaker 1: He's looking right now as we speach, all right, So
Speaker 1: you're wondering, are there are there second rounders, third rounders
Speaker 1: that are going to be available that I think they're
Speaker 1: probably you can you can find them. You can find them,
Speaker 1: that's right. So, but Mickey, you are would not be
Speaker 1: in favor of if Piney Seul or Ray Shawn Slater,
Speaker 1: who are the top two ranked tackles that most people
Speaker 1: talk about, are there for the cowboy Boys for the
Speaker 1: taking at number ten or even in a trade back
Speaker 1: scenario with Slater at number fifteen or fourteen or something
Speaker 1: like that, you would not be in favor of one
Speaker 1: of those guys at that point, I just think that's
Speaker 1: that's using your resources as an embarrassment of riches to
Speaker 1: think that I have to have a first round guy
Speaker 1: at every spot on the offensive line. Ask Everson if
Speaker 1: he ever, how many first round offensive lineman he played with. Right,
Speaker 1: go go look at the Cowboys. Remember I don't even
Speaker 1: remember my offensive lineman teammate's names. I'm sorry, Go look
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys when they were winning, when they were
Speaker 1: winning Super Bowls. The highest, the highest drafted offensive lineman
Speaker 1: of that entire group was Larry Allen, and he didn't
Speaker 1: get there until nineteen ninety four. Right. The others were
Speaker 1: third rounders or free agent. Gogan was like a sixth
Speaker 1: or seventh rounder in a twelve round draft, right off
Speaker 1: of cur Crawford. Kerr was a third rounder, if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, Nate Newton, undrafted Mark two, and a undrafted
Speaker 1: Mark Stepanowski third round. So you don't have to have
Speaker 1: a first round guy at every spot. You find me
Speaker 1: a second, third, fourth round guy that I can develop
Speaker 1: and get in there and and have some have some talent.
Speaker 1: They're out there. You just gotta but to use a
Speaker 1: first round pick again on another offensive lineman. You got
Speaker 1: to tell me that the defensive guys that I've got
Speaker 1: high on my board are no longer available, no longer available,
Speaker 1: and then I could maybe qualify it. But those guys
Speaker 1: are going to be gone, Bill, Won't they be gone
Speaker 1: in the top nine? Uh? Seul will be gone. Uh Slater.
Speaker 1: Slater would probably be there at ten. Is he the
Speaker 1: guy with the short on Well? Well, you know that's
Speaker 1: the thing on the measurements on these because we didn't
Speaker 1: have a combine this year. How much do you believe
Speaker 1: all the measurements. There's there's an inconsistency on all. Right.
Speaker 1: If there's the guy at Northwestern, does he really know
Speaker 1: how to measure the arm length is at uniform across
Speaker 1: the every pro day? I seriously doubt it. Slater at
Speaker 1: thirty three inch arms, Pine Sewel thirty three and a
Speaker 1: quarter inch arms, So it's not much difference there in
Speaker 1: their arm length. But I didn't do the research. I
Speaker 1: can't remember if I mentioned it on last week's show
Speaker 1: or not. If you look around the NFL and look
Speaker 1: at specifically at either tackle spot, but especially at left tackle,
Speaker 1: and I think if you're drafting in the first round
Speaker 1: a tackle that it needs to be someone who has
Speaker 1: the ability to eventually replace Tyring Smith whenever he retires
Speaker 1: at left tackle. If you look around the league, there
Speaker 1: are very few tackle that with an arm length of
Speaker 1: less than thirty four inches. It's just it gives them
Speaker 1: a big advantage. Tyrant Smith, for example, has thirty six
Speaker 1: inch arms and eleven inch hands. Speaking of hand size,
Speaker 1: So again, if we if we are to assume that
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith and Lell Collins are ready to go, and
Speaker 1: to me, they wouldn't have given them those restructured contracting
Speaker 1: ready ready to go meaning ready to play, yes, ready
Speaker 1: to leave, yeah, ready to play, yes, ready to go
Speaker 1: the opening day. Right. They wouldn't have restructured their contracts
Speaker 1: if they didn't feel like whatever surgeries they had took
Speaker 1: care of what they needed. So if if those guys
Speaker 1: are good, you're not going to draft a guy better
Speaker 1: than Tyrn Smith, I'm sorry, And so that guy's gonna
Speaker 1: sit on the bench. That would be like the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers taken a quarterback last year or with wherever
Speaker 1: they were twenty sixth pick or whatever, and he sat
Speaker 1: on the bench and they didn't improve their team. Now
Speaker 1: you may and I understand the draft isn't always for
Speaker 1: this year. You got to look down the road. But
Speaker 1: there's gonna be other tackles that you can you know,
Speaker 1: these aren't the last tackles, you know, like the last
Speaker 1: picture show, this is the last tackle show. Right. Same
Speaker 1: thing with Kyle Pitts. I understand he's great, right, but
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the last tight end to ever come around.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be good. In two years, There'll be another
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. So to me find you know there, I
Speaker 1: saw the guy from Michigan. I think they they can
Speaker 1: consider him a guard, maybe tackle. Jalen Mayfield. Is that
Speaker 1: the guy from Michigan. Yep, Jalen Mayfield. He's six five,
Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty six pounds. You know, he may
Speaker 1: be a second third round guy according to one board.
Speaker 1: I saw. Take a guy like that and you talk
Speaker 1: about you talk about arm length right, thirty two and
Speaker 1: five eight cinches. That's why he's a guard. He's not
Speaker 1: playing tackle in this league. He's not even got arms
Speaker 1: long enough to play center. He can't even reach his
Speaker 1: food on the plate if he pushed you far away
Speaker 1: from the table. That's how short is on. Well, there was,
Speaker 1: and there was. I have to say, though, there was
Speaker 1: a guy from Nebraska. If we're picking at ten, if
Speaker 1: we're picking at ten, everyone's not gonna be gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is like so out of the ram
Speaker 1: of possibility, all the postles not gonna be gone, and
Speaker 1: Collamore and Collin's not gonna be gone. Not to mention
Speaker 1: the dbs s ten talking Farley, we're talking, all of
Speaker 1: them are not gonna be gone, especially with the five
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you have, possibly in the first one. All of
Speaker 1: them are not gonna be gone. We're gonna have our
Speaker 1: choice to pick whoever we need. If it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be a linebacker, it's gonna be one of these defense back.
Speaker 1: So no, I just don't see that scenario. It's not
Speaker 1: even logical. And Steven answered the question about defense, and
Speaker 1: they were asking about different positions, and he said the
Speaker 1: defensive needs. He goes, it's across the board. We can't
Speaker 1: and then he went on to say, we can't have
Speaker 1: enough linebacker. He was talking about the game today, right,
Speaker 1: He said, you can't have enough linebackers who can cover.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys obviously need more than one right, and
Speaker 1: so that leaves that open. But he was very definitive defensively.
Speaker 1: We have to get better and I'm telling you that's
Speaker 1: I just can't see him being lulled to any other position.
Speaker 1: He also had a great answer when he was asked
Speaker 1: about Jerry's comment about Pitts that he was intrigued by
Speaker 1: the tight end. Well, sure he's intrigued. Everybody's intrigued by him.
Speaker 1: And Steven as or did this way, he said, certainly
Speaker 1: Jerry was just commenting on it. All right, Everson, I've
Speaker 1: got a homework assignment for you before next week. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the linebackers. I want you to go look
Speaker 1: at Jeremiah Owusue Corama from Notre Dame. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want you to take a pounds. Yeah. I wouldn't know
Speaker 1: a little bit about him. Guy can because somewhat of
Speaker 1: a hyper if he wanted to, because he wants what
Speaker 1: I'm doing four five forty you know. Oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going for that that highlight tape of his Wow, it's
Speaker 1: something else. Um and and you talk about the new breed,
Speaker 1: what Mickey, what Stevens talking about? There? The day and
Speaker 1: age where a linebacker who can cover this guy is.
Speaker 1: I mean in sub packages. He's one of your starting linebackers,
Speaker 1: and he can in the in the base defense, he
Speaker 1: can play safety for you. You could you you could
Speaker 1: use him in a nickel the way they wanted to
Speaker 1: do last year, you know, use him as a nickel
Speaker 1: guy as opposed to going with a small defensive bat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: instead of putting instead of putting Everson Walls linebacker, you know,
Speaker 1: instead of putting. Hey, man, come, you don't know what
Speaker 1: kind of work I did in New York when they
Speaker 1: moved me the safety baby. I have the I have
Speaker 1: the pitch nerves to show for it. I'll stick in
Speaker 1: here if I have to. And then the other the
Speaker 1: other thing. Uh. An homework assignment for both of you
Speaker 1: for next Tuesday? Who is who is the guy that
Speaker 1: you want the Cowboys to come away with in the
Speaker 1: first round? And you can throw in other guys if
Speaker 1: you'd like, depending on how much research you want to do.
Speaker 1: But who do you want the Cowboys to get in
Speaker 1: the first round next week? Okay? All right, got assignment,
Speaker 1: all right, and we will talk at you again next
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