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Speaker 4: Are you a wire hanger guy? Plastic film?
Speaker 2: So I'm a I don't give a flip what the
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Speaker 6: He said, flip. He's a little more PG today.
Speaker 2: I did get a text message yesterday. That's unfortunate. Isaiah's
Speaker 2: daughter who's watching We love you Sky. All right, let's
Speaker 2: talk about the Cowboys and the Jets coming up this
Speaker 2: week before we take the phone calls. Things changing a
Speaker 2: little bit. Huh, John, whenever you go back and you
Speaker 2: look at what happened last night, no more Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: and Achilles injury. We wish the best for his recovery,
Speaker 2: but partially a bummer. It is a bummer for the
Speaker 2: Cowboys because I wanted to see them go up against
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and see see this defense tested against the best,
Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers has been one of the best throughout
Speaker 2: his career.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was very clear for the game. Michael Parsons
Speaker 7: did as well. Nobody even aske him about the Jets,
Speaker 7: and he offered up multiple times about wanting to face
Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers next week. So yeah, that's not gonna happen,
Speaker 7: And yeah it's disappointing.
Speaker 1: And when I'm watching games like that.
Speaker 7: I'm always like, should I tweet this out right now
Speaker 7: because they're playing the Cowboys next? Am I going to
Speaker 7: point out that this looks like that he's definitely not
Speaker 7: going to play in this game. But at the same time,
Speaker 7: I'm just like, I kind of want to leave it
Speaker 7: alone because people are obviously pretty sensitive at the moment,
Speaker 7: and I don't want it to be look like I'm
Speaker 7: just looking.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, this is going to help the Cowboys, but obviously.
Speaker 7: A lot of other people don't care about that and
Speaker 7: post that stuff. So it's like, I mean, it is whatever,
Speaker 7: but it is when you see anybody having to get
Speaker 7: the card out, you know that's not great.
Speaker 1: And and I know this.
Speaker 7: Isn't a Aaron Rodgers, but I will say there was
Speaker 7: a part of me when we left the stadium Sunday
Speaker 7: night that I was like, oh, it looks like the
Speaker 7: Cowboys got out of here without any like notable injuries,
Speaker 7: which if you follow the other stadiums. Met life is
Speaker 7: very high on the list of ones that people are
Speaker 7: concerned about with the playing surface, and so I thought
Speaker 7: about that when I was leaving, and then I don't
Speaker 7: know that I can't sit there and say that injury
Speaker 7: was because of the surface or whatever, but it is
Speaker 7: one of those that I just know that there's been
Speaker 7: a lot of talk about that being and just the
Speaker 7: fact of the weather that the Cowboys played in Sunday
Speaker 7: night on that surface. To leave there without any notable injuries,
Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's a huge one out of itself.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I guess Zach Wilson's gonna have to be
Speaker 7: the guy for them, and it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 7: how they handle that because there's some, you know, some
Speaker 7: notable talent on that team that they're not in a rebuild.
Speaker 7: So if he's struggling, I find it hard to believe
Speaker 7: they're just going to stand pad and be like, well,
Speaker 7: we're just going to work with Zach through throughout the
Speaker 7: end of the season.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's a really good team. We did it
Speaker 5: out right after the game last night, Aaron Rodgers or not,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a really good team that comes into
Speaker 5: at and t on Sunday. But talking about the Rodgers injury,
Speaker 5: you could see it whenever his calf just ballooned. That's
Speaker 5: that's typically a telltale sign of you know, an achilles injury.
Speaker 5: So hoping he can recover, just because that team is
Speaker 5: so much fun and a lot of hype going into
Speaker 5: the year, and I think they probably would have had
Speaker 5: their way with Buffalo if he was if he was
Speaker 5: fully healthy last night. But you know what can Zach
Speaker 5: Wilson bring to the table? I think it's going to
Speaker 5: be They're gonna kind of have to rework a lot
Speaker 5: of things. You know that their playbook is not going
Speaker 5: to be the same. You know, he's going to be
Speaker 5: a more of a short to intermediate guy. They're going
Speaker 5: to try to, you know, get those methodical drives. The
Speaker 5: defense is gonna be on the field for a long time.
Speaker 5: They have a really established running game with Breeze Hall
Speaker 5: and Dalvin Cook. Both of those guys looked good at
Speaker 5: times last night, Breeze Hall especially. I think he was
Speaker 5: over one hundred yards on his first two carries. So
Speaker 5: that they're gonna have to come to play. I think
Speaker 5: the the run.
Speaker 6: Defense is going to be especially tested on Sunday.
Speaker 7: Garret Wilson's No Slouch Garret Wilson Show has shown that
Speaker 7: you don't need to.
Speaker 1: Throw to They got that guy, He'll be okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you felt the inn at least from the lead
Speaker 2: up of that game Monday Night Football Prime Time. It
Speaker 2: was at MetLife of course nine to eleven in the
Speaker 2: celebration pregame, but it was the buzz around Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: and what he was doing coming out of the tunnel
Speaker 2: and just the hope that he brought. That was going
Speaker 2: to be very similar to the buzz in the lead
Speaker 2: up of this game, just because the Bills are a
Speaker 2: very good opponent and the Jets are a very good team,
Speaker 2: and then the Cowboys doing what they did in Week one,
Speaker 2: Week two at AT and T Stadium was going to
Speaker 2: have a very similar buzz whether it was a three
Speaker 2: to twenty five game or not. That's what I was anticipating.
Speaker 2: That buzz may not be the same level, but it
Speaker 2: should be very close at least in the locker room,
Speaker 2: because you cannot let up against this Jets team. You
Speaker 2: saw it last night. They can find a way to
Speaker 2: win a game even without Rogers in the full.
Speaker 7: All of that is why I don't understand if you
Speaker 7: ever meet somebody that's a big sports fan who isn't superstitious, because.
Speaker 2: There just is.
Speaker 7: Whenever you think that you have it all, like just
Speaker 7: be calm about it, because it can easily just drop
Speaker 7: off so fast, Like I mean, how hype they were
Speaker 7: going in that season, all the build up like that.
Speaker 7: Like that's why I don't get into the whole like
Speaker 7: talking a lot of trash going in when you're I'm saying,
Speaker 7: a fan, when you're a player, you have an impact
Speaker 7: in the game and.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that.
Speaker 7: But I'm just very superstitious about anything like that. Honestly,
Speaker 7: it probably comes back. The best way to describe it
Speaker 7: is that Jerry Jones says all the time about, you know,
Speaker 7: working in the NFL, it's like holding two handfuls of jello,
Speaker 7: Like you think that you have it. As soon as
Speaker 7: you think that everything's cool, something happens like that, you know,
Speaker 7: and you just and to be honest, to go win
Speaker 7: a Super Bowl, you're gonna have to have a lot
Speaker 7: of things bounce your way to begin with. But yeah,
Speaker 7: how quickly it is something like second third series, It's
Speaker 7: like he's running out with the American flag. Everybody's pumped.
Speaker 7: Place is going crazy. A couple plays boom done, four
Speaker 7: plays in and just cameraman just turned into just panning too.
Speaker 7: The crowd, just getting crowd shots of upset Jets fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, MRI, I converbs torn Achilles versus the Bills out
Speaker 2: for the season. You've torn your achilles, Isaiah. Want to
Speaker 2: get your input. What is that recovery process like for
Speaker 2: especially somebody that's turning forty in December like Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: and I've got I've got a way to relay this
Speaker 2: back to the boys. I'll ask that secondly, but let's
Speaker 2: start with just the Achilles injury as a generality.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just sucks. So prayers up to Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: for sure. It's a bad mind space to be in.
Speaker 4: It just is you put so much work in to
Speaker 4: get yourself prepared and something like that that's not preventable.
Speaker 4: There's nothing that he could have done training wise, it
Speaker 4: could have been better. There's none of those things, right,
Speaker 4: It's just it's just happens. It happened to me, it
Speaker 4: happened to Bury Church. Yep. You know, it just it sucks.
Speaker 4: It sucks for them, you know, they built this entire
Speaker 4: year pretty much around him. You know, they have a
Speaker 4: lot writing on him this year. He bet on himself
Speaker 4: in a major way this year, and for something that
Speaker 4: you can't control to happen to you, that's it's the
Speaker 4: worst thing in the world. So now he has a
Speaker 4: I think it took me about seven months to get
Speaker 4: back from my achilles tear. It's it's it's a lot
Speaker 4: of hard work. It's a lot of hard work, man.
Speaker 4: You know, you start off from ground zero. They you
Speaker 4: go get your surgery. You're in a cash you're on crutches.
Speaker 4: Then you work your way off of that. You're in boot.
Speaker 4: You know, you're in a walking boot. Then you start
Speaker 4: learning how to move your toes again and how to
Speaker 4: flex your ankle. I mean it sucks, you know, it
Speaker 4: really sucks. You're as far removed from normalcy as possible.
Speaker 4: And now he has to just turn into a cheerleader
Speaker 4: for his team and probably hopefully try to provide some
Speaker 4: wisdom for that quarterback room.
Speaker 7: I mean, Kobe Bryant is probably one of the most
Speaker 7: athletic human beings that I've ever walked the earth, and
Speaker 7: I just looked it up to be I wanted to
Speaker 7: be accurate on this. He was thirty four when that
Speaker 7: happened to him, and now he still played some seasons
Speaker 7: after that, and I mean Hack's last game was incredible,
Speaker 7: But at forty Aaron Rodgers is definitely not that athletic.
Speaker 1: It's going to be it's.
Speaker 7: Gonna be a big, uphill climb to get back from
Speaker 7: that whole deal.
Speaker 4: I mean, the good thing is I know, for me specifically,
Speaker 4: I guess that's what I could speak to. I came
Speaker 4: back bigger, faster, stronger, Okay, Right, So if you have
Speaker 4: a dog mindset and you have the resources, which we
Speaker 4: obviously know he does for sure, you know, it really
Speaker 4: just comes down to does he want to come back? Right?
Speaker 4: And anything that I I do know about Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 4: He's about as competitive as it gets. And he also
Speaker 4: looks for all forms of alternative medicine. So I'm sure
Speaker 4: he's gonna be up on the game in terms of
Speaker 4: trying to make sure that he has all the different
Speaker 4: treatment types possible to come back. I would. I would
Speaker 4: if I'm not a betting man, but if I was
Speaker 4: a bet money, he would probably come back from this
Speaker 4: sooner than most people would. So prayers up for him,
Speaker 4: but obviously it changes things a ton for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Now your entire game plan is I would assume it's
Speaker 4: different now for Dan Quinn because from my perspective, if
Speaker 4: I'm Dan Queen playing against Aaron Rodgers, I need to
Speaker 4: heat him up. I need to heat him up. Even
Speaker 4: though you're front for his absolute dogs, I still need
Speaker 4: to find a way to heat him up because I
Speaker 4: have to make him uncomfortable. When Aaron Rodgers is uncomfortable,
Speaker 4: you at least get him out of pocket, get him
Speaker 4: a little flustered. He could he may throw a couple
Speaker 4: up to you. Now, because Zach Wilson, I'm gonna sit back.
Speaker 4: I'm let my front four go eat. I'm gonna make
Speaker 4: this dude find a way to find a hole somewhere
Speaker 4: in my defense and see if he could be accurate,
Speaker 4: because his history says he can't.
Speaker 5: I'm shifting my focus to the running game one hundred
Speaker 5: per Those are the guys that'll beat the Cowboys on
Speaker 5: Sunday if they do. Curious during your Achilles recovery, how
Speaker 5: were darkness retreats for you?
Speaker 4: Did?
Speaker 6: Did they help at all?
Speaker 4: I didn't have any darkness, but I tell you I
Speaker 4: went to some dark places, man, I could tell you.
Speaker 4: I can tell you that it is. It's a bad
Speaker 4: place to be. So I hope that everybody is super
Speaker 4: empathetic to Aaron Rodgers. I know there's a lot of
Speaker 4: people who don't really care for him, and you know how,
Speaker 4: he's an individual. I respect the crap out of him
Speaker 4: for being an individual and being a self thinker. He
Speaker 4: doesn't go with the rest of the people. I'm that
Speaker 4: same type of person, so I have a lot of
Speaker 4: respect for him in that regard. So it's a tough
Speaker 4: place for him to be right now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I just watching him for so long because
Speaker 7: I mean, he always owned the Lions and just seeing
Speaker 7: him as much as he played, I always thought, I
Speaker 7: always and I still do, think of Aaron Rodgers as
Speaker 7: wearing like the old school football helmet, wearing the shoulder
Speaker 7: pads that look like they're probably for a kicker, doesn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, he looks like the least pas added up.
Speaker 7: Player up until maybe and I'll tell you what, Brandon
Speaker 7: Cooks does not look like he was very much patting either.
Speaker 7: But it just to see him go down like that,
Speaker 7: just in my head, I was like, oh, No, he'll
Speaker 7: be back. He'll come back out there like they're probably
Speaker 7: just it's probably an ankle thing. They'll retape him up,
Speaker 7: like I'm just the only other time I can think
Speaker 7: of him going down like that was the Anthony bar hit,
Speaker 7: which that ended up leading to some rule changes because
Speaker 7: of that. But yeah, you just assume, oh no, no,
Speaker 7: he's gonna come out of that tent, he'll be back
Speaker 7: out there, or that it's going to be like a
Speaker 7: couple of week things or something like that.
Speaker 4: And then I knew it immediately. Yeah, I knew immediately.
Speaker 4: And I honestly, you know, people might say be a software.
Speaker 4: I wish they would stop showing the replay, honestly, just
Speaker 4: out of respect of him, because I can't even watch
Speaker 4: the replay without having flashbacks. And it doesn't hurt when
Speaker 4: it happens, It doesn't hurt. There's no pain. All the
Speaker 4: nerves are torn like, there's no pain at all. You
Speaker 4: didn't see him crying, Graymason. None.
Speaker 2: No, he stood right back up. He was in the
Speaker 2: huddle and then he had to sit back down.
Speaker 4: But you know why he sat back down. He sat
Speaker 4: back down because the reality set in for him as
Speaker 4: to what happened when I tore Mindes. I literally stopped
Speaker 4: in the middle of my route when I tore mine,
Speaker 4: and I just took my helmet off and threw it
Speaker 4: and was pissed. I knew I hadn't thot about Achilles,
Speaker 4: not one time before that, but that was in my
Speaker 4: contract year. Everything that I worked for was gone at
Speaker 4: that point in time, and not just the reality of
Speaker 4: what just happened set in and you literally just stare
Speaker 4: off into space. You hear noise around you, people talking
Speaker 4: to you, but you don't hear it, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. You're just like so much is going through
Speaker 4: your mind, Like what's going on? Am I going to
Speaker 4: come back from this? How long is it going to
Speaker 4: take me to come back? Do I have another chance?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 4: What's everything looked like for me? Like his mind is
Speaker 4: going on thousand So when he was in that cart,
Speaker 4: when he was on the ground, when you laid back
Speaker 4: on the ground, I felt for him when he was
Speaker 4: on that cart, I've had that same look in my
Speaker 4: eye before. It was just like I'm physically here, but
Speaker 4: I'm not here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, to defend the TV people just a little bit. Okay,
Speaker 7: So when Kevin Durant had it happen. He's wearing shorts
Speaker 7: and you can see real quick how the impact it
Speaker 7: had on his achilles. It was kind of tough, like
Speaker 7: you had to really zoom in to see it, because
Speaker 7: I wanted to see a couple of replays because I
Speaker 7: was like, what is it? What didn't Yeah, because in
Speaker 7: regular speed, I was like, oh, he just rolled his
Speaker 7: ankle or something like that, you know, And so maybe
Speaker 7: that's why they were showing more of them.
Speaker 2: But I will say from a production standpoint, just being
Speaker 2: in trucks and doing that, that part of the TV
Speaker 2: copy is to provide viewership with the insight to what
Speaker 2: is happening in the game, and at least in this case,
Speaker 2: not in every case. I mean, if a star player
Speaker 2: goes down, you're going to show it. If one of
Speaker 2: the other guys goes down, Let's say John Stevens, for example,
Speaker 2: in the Seattle game, whenever he tore his achilles an
Speaker 2: unfortunate break for the Cowboys, we showed it one time
Speaker 2: and he really didn't get a good look out of it,
Speaker 2: and it was about it. But if it's Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: and it's the main storyline, that's the storyline not only
Speaker 2: for the game, but now for the entire Jets season,
Speaker 2: So it's going to be showed over and over. I
Speaker 2: agree with you, it's not ideal.
Speaker 4: It is just I mean, if it was a ball
Speaker 4: stick it out the leg, then they would exactly from
Speaker 4: his perspective, it's exact same.
Speaker 8: Yea.
Speaker 2: Now, how could this change things? And I said, I
Speaker 2: had a way to relate this back to the Cowboys
Speaker 2: other than the Week two matchup. Donovan Wilson is going
Speaker 2: through a calf injury and a calf recovery right now.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers had a calf injury and a calf recovery
Speaker 2: and training camp as well that kept him out for
Speaker 2: some time through the preseason.
Speaker 1: That the same thing with Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2: Same thing with Youavin Durant. There's been notoriety around that before.
Speaker 2: Now Aaron Rodgers it was his right calf and it
Speaker 2: was the left achilles that ended up getting injured last.
Speaker 2: But it's it all kind of overstimulates and it kind
Speaker 2: of goes back and forth. Does that change anything from
Speaker 2: the training staff standpoint when you're looking and dealing with
Speaker 2: Donovan Wilson and his recovery Because we heard from Jerry
Speaker 2: Jones this morning. Some guys on the cusp of returning,
Speaker 2: does this tap the brakes a little bit?
Speaker 4: I think in reality yes. I think if you asked
Speaker 4: them they would say probably no. But I think, yeah,
Speaker 4: how can it not? How can it not when you
Speaker 4: have so many examples of people before you that have
Speaker 4: That's what wisdom is, right, being able to see something
Speaker 4: that that's taking place with somebody else and being able
Speaker 4: to digest that information and make any adjustments off of
Speaker 4: that to ensure that you don't run into those same pitfalls.
Speaker 4: So knowing that Aaron Rodgers had a cap string on
Speaker 4: his opposing legue, knowing that he didn't have many reps
Speaker 4: on it going into full speed, and I think the
Speaker 4: mindset is starting to change around the league. There's been
Speaker 4: a lot of injuries in this first week tons of preseason. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I think the mindset is going to change for
Speaker 4: a lot of teams going to next preseason in terms
Speaker 4: of what guy, what it should look like, for guys
Speaker 4: who are starters, what should they play. I'm starting to
Speaker 4: think that people are starting to say yes, because the
Speaker 4: wear and tear, you can't expect me to go you know,
Speaker 4: seventy five eighty percent in practice, you know, call it
Speaker 4: that majority of time and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: all right, turn the lights one hundred binders pour you
Speaker 4: know it's not You're starting to see that's not realistic.
Speaker 7: I'd be pretty nervous though, if I'm just using him
Speaker 7: as Aaron Rodgers an example, because i mean just the
Speaker 7: start of the game, it did not look good in
Speaker 7: terms of him having any time back there. So I'm
Speaker 7: just thinking if you throw him out there for the
Speaker 7: preseason and this is a preseason game, that just happened,
Speaker 7: and it's going to be even more scrutiny of.
Speaker 1: Why was Aaron Rodgers even out there? He shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been out there behind this offensive line.
Speaker 4: You know, it's all the same to me, his preseason injury,
Speaker 4: first game. I mean, it doesn't matter, you know. I
Speaker 4: mean the end of the day, you'd losing a player.
Speaker 5: Yeah, talking about Donovan Wilson, you would have to think
Speaker 5: that they'd feel a lot more comfortable giving him.
Speaker 6: As much time as he needs.
Speaker 5: Though, after Sunday with Marquees spill and juan Ye Thomas,
Speaker 5: how they performed, even Blie Cooker picked up a couple
Speaker 5: of Donovan's typical typical responsibilities and did well with it.
Speaker 5: So if he's not ready for this week, man, let
Speaker 5: him show. But if he's ready, let's go. And that's
Speaker 5: what it sounds like. It sounds like he's ready to go. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but yeah, if he's not, like, shoot, give him that time.
Speaker 4: Would you give him extra week even if he said
Speaker 4: he's ready, if you determine.
Speaker 6: He was ready going on there?
Speaker 5: You know, I gotta understand the day to day if
Speaker 5: I can't speak on that, but if it's a situation
Speaker 5: where he's even like any hesitant whatsoever, yeah, give him
Speaker 5: that extra week.
Speaker 6: We got fit seventeen more weeks to play, probably.
Speaker 2: And we've talked about it on this show a number
Speaker 2: of times. But Brett Brown and amazing the entire training
Speaker 2: staff over there. They know what they're doing, and they're
Speaker 2: as good as say you will. They are as good
Speaker 2: as it gets. I think at that point you trust
Speaker 2: what they're doing and trust when they're throwing those guys
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 8: Great? A couple of statements and then a question, Uh, hey,
Speaker 8: I'm feeling a lot better about the offensive line. The
Speaker 8: way that a number seventy one, the guy we got
Speaker 8: from the Jets. Yes, I thought he played very well.
Speaker 8: I think Bath is a stud in the making. I
Speaker 8: think I think in a couple of years he's going
Speaker 8: to remind a lot of people of a young Zat
Speaker 8: Martin and and the kid Richardson. I like, you know,
Speaker 8: I thought he played well in the preseason. He showed
Speaker 8: some I thought some good feat so. And I thought
Speaker 8: our offensive line played really really well on Sunday against
Speaker 8: the you know, a stout giant defensive line. Uh So,
Speaker 8: I'm feeling like our all our old line is going
Speaker 8: to be okay. The second thing I wanted to mention
Speaker 8: is I think Mike McCarthy doesn't get enough credit for
Speaker 8: how he's changed the culture. I think he's really gotten
Speaker 8: into Jerry's ear big time. And I think you're seeing
Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy really asserting, you know, his professionalism, his his
Speaker 8: proficiency in the game. And and Jerry I think has
Speaker 8: given him an ear. And lastly, Rico, Rico dal that's
Speaker 8: what he played really well. I want to see you
Speaker 8: guys see him getting more carries. So that's it. I
Speaker 8: hope you guys are well.
Speaker 14: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate the call as always. And and dan
Speaker 2: O brings great talking points every time, and he's got
Speaker 2: a couple there. Let's start with the offensive line. I agree.
Speaker 2: I didn't think True Modoga did anything over the top,
Speaker 2: and Nick, you and I have talked about this a
Speaker 2: little bit. But he did his job. He came in
Speaker 2: and he filled the hole.
Speaker 4: TJ. Bass.
Speaker 2: I've always been very high on TJ. Bass. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I would compare him to a young Zach
Speaker 2: Martin just quite yet, but the possibility is there for
Speaker 2: the undrafted man out of Oregon.
Speaker 6: I'll compare TJ.
Speaker 5: Bass to a young Terrence Steele just because of their
Speaker 5: similar paths, how they've how they've been to be thrown
Speaker 5: into the fire early on. Not as much as Terrence Steele,
Speaker 5: but I mean he had reps in his very first game.
Speaker 5: I think we mentioned it yesterday, but whenever Chuma went
Speaker 5: down with I think it was an ipoke and he
Speaker 5: was just kind of tending to it.
Speaker 4: TJ.
Speaker 5: Bass was running onto the field before the trainers even
Speaker 5: running on into the field, so like he's ready to go.
Speaker 6: But yeah, Chuma meant he did his job. We were
Speaker 6: just talking about it before the show.
Speaker 2: He did his job.
Speaker 5: That's all you can ask for I'm really excited to
Speaker 5: see if he's going to be the reliable option moving forward,
Speaker 5: because it's not gonna be the last time in injury
Speaker 5: pops up, But is he.
Speaker 6: Going to be the reliable guy in game two, game three,
Speaker 6: whenever he needs to come in?
Speaker 2: And it was against a nice defensive front from the Giants.
Speaker 2: It's not like they were playing anybody that's under valued
Speaker 2: on that defensive front. They played a good defensive front
Speaker 2: from New York and they did it, did their job.
Speaker 2: Just going topic by topic, he talked about Mike McCarthy
Speaker 2: not getting enough credit in terms of building the culture.
Speaker 2: I'll start with John on this one, but I felt
Speaker 2: like we hit it yesterday that the culture is there.
Speaker 2: It has been built since he got there in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: It's a complete turn around and it feels like they're
Speaker 2: this team has fun playing football. What you couldn't always
Speaker 2: say about the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I don't think that the previous head
Speaker 7: coach had a bad culture.
Speaker 2: I think that's not saying that all.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I know you're not, but.
Speaker 7: But it's tough, like well one there's I definitely don't
Speaker 7: think Mike Mike McCarthy gets enough credit, that's for sure,
Speaker 7: But when it comes to like the culture of the
Speaker 7: team and stuff like that, I think he's a big
Speaker 7: part of it. But I also think having there's a
Speaker 7: lot of key pieces player wise that are battle tests
Speaker 7: that have gone through it. Looking at like the two
Speaker 7: people behind you and Zach Martin and Dak Prescott, and
Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of key players on this
Speaker 7: roster that that help you, you know, be in that
Speaker 7: position as well to where you can really you have
Speaker 7: a lot of leadership within. You don't have to be
Speaker 7: this raw rock coach that's uh, that's doing a lot
Speaker 7: like you see in a lot of these behind the
Speaker 7: scenes with a lot of coaches. He doesn't have to
Speaker 7: do that here and he and he knows he doesn't,
Speaker 7: and to be honest, that's not really like him. That
Speaker 7: would be probably out of character. So I think him
Speaker 7: just being himself and just being a steadying force for them,
Speaker 7: I think that that's been huge. But there's so many
Speaker 7: things with Mike McCarthy that he does that I don't
Speaker 7: think he gets enough credit for. And when I see,
Speaker 7: you know, these top rankings of these coaches lists and
Speaker 7: stuff like that, and I feel like he gets glossed
Speaker 7: over because they think that Aaron Rodgers just handed him
Speaker 7: a super Bowl or something, and that's that's not the case.
Speaker 1: But no, he's been He's been huge for them for sure.
Speaker 7: And I think I could tie in Mike McCarthy with
Speaker 7: the offensive line question at the beginning.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, as long as you're gonna have.
Speaker 7: A few of those guys not go down because obviously
Speaker 7: there's gonna be issues and things like that. I think
Speaker 7: since he's been head coach, they've done a pretty good
Speaker 7: job when they've had to put in somebody else to
Speaker 7: try and kind of fit a game plan with that
Speaker 7: crew and not really leave anybody on an island. And
Speaker 7: I think that that really helped in this game as well.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean, I don't think the offensive line
Speaker 7: it's time to panic. I'm just where they are. You're
Speaker 7: just like if they were to suffer any type of
Speaker 7: significant injury, there's just not a lot behind it where
Speaker 7: you feel confident.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about Mike McCarthy, And then
Speaker 2: how did you feel Rico Dawdle played in Week one?
Speaker 4: Rico ran hard. Rico ran hard. I think he did
Speaker 4: well with the opportunities that were given to him. I
Speaker 4: like the utilization of all four guys in the backfield.
Speaker 4: I say all four because Turp was obviously a running
Speaker 4: back in this game. First touchdown he did, guess, I
Speaker 4: mean I saw that. I just got to throw that sprinkle. Huh,
Speaker 4: the one in there, I need to get a carry.
Speaker 6: It definitely did not touch the ball, but he had
Speaker 6: a couple of nice blocks.
Speaker 2: He did have a good block.
Speaker 4: He did have a good I'm looking at the right
Speaker 4: now in terms of the McCarthy credit, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's not looking for credit. No, he's not looking for credit.
Speaker 2: He's looking for one thing.
Speaker 4: He wants something that's shiny, and that's all he cares about.
Speaker 4: Anything else on that mission, not accomplished what you say.
Speaker 5: I want to touch on the doubt o part really quick,
Speaker 5: just because we were talking to off its coordinator Brian
Speaker 5: Schottenheimer yesterday and he was asked how much of the
Speaker 5: offensive playbook were they able to kind of keep inside
Speaker 5: because you know, they out to a big lead, didn't
Speaker 5: really have to open up the pass.
Speaker 6: Game that much. They went to their weather playing almost immediately.
Speaker 6: So how much is.
Speaker 5: Still you know in I guess in the book, and
Speaker 5: he had said that there's quite a bit like it
Speaker 5: worked out for him basically, And I started thinking about that,
Speaker 5: and I went back and watched the offense. So, Okay,
Speaker 5: what did they show ric o'dowdell and duce Vaughan having
Speaker 5: the same amount of carries? I mean, that's attributed to
Speaker 5: the game getting out to a really big lead, Deuce
Speaker 5: being able to come in and get those get those
Speaker 5: extra carries that who probably wouldn't have had. But is
Speaker 5: Rico Doubtle going to be more of that five six
Speaker 5: seven carry guy or the ten eleven twelve touch type guy.
Speaker 5: That That's something that I think is still unopened, which
Speaker 5: is very fascinating going into week two too, because Mike
Speaker 5: McCarthy has said a lot that the first four weeks
Speaker 5: everything is almost fifty five percent unscouted, and it gets
Speaker 5: down to maybe thirty five percent once you get into
Speaker 5: those latter weeks of the opening season. So are they
Speaker 5: going into week two with like an eighty five percent
Speaker 5: unscouted look, I mean that that would be huge.
Speaker 2: I would imagine, yeah, it would be. It would be
Speaker 2: tough to to have a game like that and be
Speaker 2: forty to nothing and still keep everything in. That's just
Speaker 2: how perfect it went for the Cowboys to kind of
Speaker 2: get to that point and say, Okay, we haven't actually
Speaker 2: shown a whole lot, but we still won by forty
Speaker 2: points in the opening week. All right, second caller, Nigel
Speaker 2: and Arizona. You're on Talking Cowboy. What's going on?
Speaker 4: Nigel?
Speaker 14: What's happening guys? Thanks for having me on. I got
Speaker 14: kind of some questions here. Maybe you guys can do
Speaker 14: some eating like Zeke used to, kind of a two
Speaker 14: part question. One, I haven't heard much on what's going
Speaker 14: on with Tyler Smith?
Speaker 15: Two?
Speaker 14: How would you compare the Giants old line versus the
Speaker 14: jets O line?
Speaker 11: And three?
Speaker 14: Ferguson you think it was the weather, the drops there
Speaker 14: or I didn't see much a shoemaker any think maybe
Speaker 14: we'll see more again?
Speaker 2: All right, what do you think about that? Appreciate the call, Nigel.
Speaker 2: Let's let's start with John. John talked about the I
Speaker 2: guess the early parts of that game. Well, how did
Speaker 2: you feel like that went for them?
Speaker 1: Are you talking about with the first question?
Speaker 7: Yeah, tight ends, I thought, I mean, there's obviously the
Speaker 7: drops that's going to stand out, you know, but there
Speaker 7: were definitely some plays in that game where I thought
Speaker 7: they're blocking was pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there were there were certainly some drops there,
Speaker 1: and I would.
Speaker 7: Say so when I watched the game, I think of
Speaker 7: one just being there and how awful the weather was,
Speaker 7: so you have to factor that in. But then the
Speaker 7: other thing is is kind of going back to Isaiah's
Speaker 7: point of not playing in the preseason when you don't
Speaker 7: really have any reps, I just think that you're I
Speaker 7: don't know, I think you're hoping for a lot that
Speaker 7: there's not going to be any miscues, drop passes, things
Speaker 7: like that when you're not really playing against another opponent
Speaker 7: for such a long period of time. And so, yeah,
Speaker 7: there were definitely four or five drops in that game,
Speaker 7: and you know, Hendershott had one that should have been
Speaker 7: a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Ferguson had a couple.
Speaker 7: In terms of Schoonmaker, yeah, I just think that he
Speaker 7: was a little bit behind because of the injury, but
Speaker 7: ultimately he'll get caught up. And I think they have,
Speaker 7: you know, three really good quality tight ends that they
Speaker 7: obviously feel really confident in putting them.
Speaker 1: In the game.
Speaker 7: It's not like they just threw them all out there.
Speaker 7: And you know, some of those packages late in the
Speaker 7: game when it was already in hand. I mean, they
Speaker 7: were doing it pretty early. So I would say with
Speaker 7: with them, I just they got to get the reps,
Speaker 7: and they will get the reps. I mean that's one
Speaker 7: of the parts of moving on from Dalton Schultz is it's, yeah,
Speaker 7: you don't have that established veteran, but you're also going
Speaker 7: to get work for some guys that you think can
Speaker 7: handle that role. And that the one thing you said
Speaker 7: about the Tyler Smith thing, there hasn't been We're gonna
Speaker 7: know a lot more this week. I mean, Jerry said
Speaker 7: on the radio this morning that you know, all those
Speaker 7: guys him, Donovan, Jordan Lewis are all close, but they'll
Speaker 7: know more going through this this week of practice. But
Speaker 7: I'm he was close last week, but why push it?
Speaker 7: And so I don't think he's far off. But the
Speaker 7: thing you battle with there though, is it just you know,
Speaker 7: kind of like the calf thing. It's like you put
Speaker 7: him back out there with the hamstring and all of
Speaker 7: a sudden he makes it worse. And then you factor
Speaker 7: in that Chumadoga looked okay, maybe buys you another week
Speaker 7: type thing. Maybe you know, you get him a chance
Speaker 7: to get a little bit healthier. But I don't think
Speaker 7: that as of today, Like if instead of us sitting here,
Speaker 7: it was you know, Britt, Mike McCarthy and Jerry, I
Speaker 7: don't think they would tell you definitively one way or
Speaker 7: the other.
Speaker 2: No, No, probably not.
Speaker 5: Still a lot of time. I wanted to talk on
Speaker 5: the Giants and the Jets offensive lines. The difference between
Speaker 5: those two. I think it is a similar approach. I
Speaker 5: mean just kind of looking from last night, it took
Speaker 5: the Jets a couple drives to really settle in. You know,
Speaker 5: not only with the drive that Rogers was out there,
Speaker 5: but you know, Zach was kind of having to move
Speaker 5: around for the first couple drives. I need to go
Speaker 5: back and really give it a full rewatch because I
Speaker 5: was at like Buffalo Wild Wings watching with like four
Speaker 5: people last night, so maybe not the best take, but
Speaker 5: I did see them quite a bit in the pres
Speaker 5: wings stop, Yeah, wingstop, it was wingstop, you're right. But
Speaker 5: the Jets offensive line the interior, I think there's gonna
Speaker 5: be some opportunities for Hankins and Mazie, those guys right
Speaker 5: there and then off the edge too. I think there's
Speaker 5: gonna be opportunities for this past rush nevertheless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean you're looking at it just off
Speaker 2: of initial viewing. We haven't done our deep dive for
Speaker 2: film study yet, but that offensive line had trouble with
Speaker 2: the Bills front. The Bills front is different than the
Speaker 2: Dallas front and the fact that there's a couple guys
Speaker 2: on the defensive line, but it's a lot of really
Speaker 2: good linebackers that are able to fly to the ball.
Speaker 2: Dallas has good on both They have guys that can
Speaker 2: fly to the football on both levels of that. So,
Speaker 2: from a challenge standpoint, do you feel like the Jets
Speaker 2: are better, at least just on initial viewing, the Jets
Speaker 2: are better equipped to take down the Cowboys front seven
Speaker 2: or than the Giants were or vice versa. It's hard
Speaker 2: to say that anybody could have a worse outing than
Speaker 2: the Giants.
Speaker 4: I think the Giants have a better old line holistically
Speaker 4: than the Jets.
Speaker 2: That's scary for the Jets, Wil.
Speaker 7: I mean, that was the talk going in the season
Speaker 7: that how was Aaron Rodgers going to stay healthy?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they didn't have o line that they
Speaker 4: felt great about. And then obviously you saw that in
Speaker 4: the game. So yeah, I think that Dallas's defensive front
Speaker 4: should be relatively eager to play this game.
Speaker 5: From what I saw, Makai becked and settled in really
Speaker 5: nice as the game went on, So I guess he's back.
Speaker 5: That would be fun for them at least. I think
Speaker 5: that that could be a challenge for I guess that
Speaker 5: would be de Marcus Lawrence.
Speaker 7: I promise you the Giants are surprised, still to this
Speaker 7: day off of how dominant that Cowboys offensive line was
Speaker 7: against them. I mean, they've been invested some serious picks
Speaker 7: there there. They really tried to turn their thing around.
Speaker 7: So yeah, did they think it was going to be
Speaker 7: one of the best offensive lines immediately? No, But there's
Speaker 7: no way that they thought they would get manhandled the
Speaker 7: way that they did Week one like that. So I
Speaker 7: just feel like a lot of people probably watching that
Speaker 7: game think, well, the Giants probably have the worst offensive
Speaker 7: line in the league, and that's not the case at all.
Speaker 7: There's definitely way worse offensive lines. It just they played
Speaker 7: terribly and maybe it just the Cowboys defensive line.
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Speaker 15: I'm doing great?
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Speaker 15: Okay? Happy first Happy Victoria Tuesday? And Nick and John,
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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you for that little bit
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Speaker 15: Yeah, let's Friday. Yes, you asked who will score the
Speaker 15: first touchdown for the Cowboys? Uh, Twitt eat Friday that
Speaker 15: the first Cowboys tod would be a pick six, but
Speaker 15: by Blend was it was just this again, you're one off.
Speaker 2: You're a one off.
Speaker 15: That was.
Speaker 2: That's that's impressive.
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I got My question is what what are
Speaker 15: your evaluations of Massie with the few opportunities he got
Speaker 15: on two? Uh so I think that's all. But uh
Speaker 15: two linemen flat on the back, So I think we
Speaker 15: got something there. Take care, bye bye, have a great day.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I appreciate you as always calling
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Speaker 6: He made Isaiah cry, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: Made Yeah.
Speaker 2: What did you think about Massie Smith and his debut?
Speaker 2: Up and down rookie debut? I'll give my opinion on
Speaker 2: a second, what did you think?
Speaker 4: That's what I expected? This is what I expected. He's
Speaker 4: he's he's a he's a true Rocky and he's not
Speaker 4: a I don't care where he was drafted. I mean
Speaker 4: I know most people do. Right, He's playing a tough
Speaker 4: position and he has bad habits that he has to
Speaker 4: break that don't work in the NFL. So it's going
Speaker 4: to take some time for him to learn unlearn those
Speaker 4: bad habits and pick up some good ones. There's gonna
Speaker 4: be times where he's able to throw some guys out
Speaker 4: the club just because he is strong, and I think
Speaker 4: that's what he might be alluding to on that particular
Speaker 4: play where he threw him on his throw the guys
Speaker 4: on her back. But other than that, there were some
Speaker 4: times where he was vertical again, got turned again like
Speaker 4: he did in the preseason. So good and bad. You know,
Speaker 4: he'll he'll get his get his critiques, get his grades,
Speaker 4: and he'll he'll learn from it.
Speaker 5: I think we need to be reminded again of who
Speaker 5: Mazzy Smith was as a prospect. He was this guy
Speaker 5: that was coming in with all of these crazy traits
Speaker 5: and insane athleticism, you know, strength that's world class, and
Speaker 5: it was always going to take time from day one.
Speaker 5: It was going to take time to get him going.
Speaker 5: And it's you're not going to see that in your one.
Speaker 5: You're not going to see that in game one. But
Speaker 5: from what we can't expect from game one from him,
Speaker 5: I think I think he lived up to what we
Speaker 5: should expect. Yeah, you know, he showed his strength. He
Speaker 5: got pushed back a couple of times. But again, that's
Speaker 5: the learning curve for him. Honestly, you would hope to
Speaker 5: see that as the season goes on. You would hope
Speaker 5: to see that he gets as many learning opportunities as
Speaker 5: possible so that in year two, year three, or four
Speaker 5: he's able to learn from those he has that experience
Speaker 5: in his belt. I'm not taking anything I see from
Speaker 5: Mazzie Smith this year too seriously. I'm taking it all
Speaker 5: with a grain of salt. Yeah, just because I know
Speaker 5: that that learning curve is still happening. He's still in
Speaker 5: like second grade with dan Quinn right now, So I'm
Speaker 5: not worried about it.
Speaker 7: Man if Osa and Hankins can keep playing like they're
Speaker 7: playing and they can stay healthy, then Mazzie can kind
Speaker 7: of just work in when he does, and you don't
Speaker 7: put that whole like first round pressure on a guy
Speaker 7: like in a way, if you know you being like
Speaker 7: that John Michael Schmidt, they're expecting.
Speaker 1: You to come in at the Giants and just you
Speaker 1: have to ball now. We need to off the line
Speaker 1: is great. We need you to be really good immediately.
Speaker 2: By Jaalen Tolbert, last year wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4: Question for you guys, do you guys expect more this
Speaker 4: year out of Mazie or out a schoolmaker.
Speaker 6: Scooting?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: For me?
Speaker 7: For me it's Mazi, But but but I could see
Speaker 7: Schoonmaker just I guess with Mazi, my thing is that
Speaker 7: I do think he has a lot of the physical
Speaker 7: ability and things like that that if if he can
Speaker 7: clean some of that up, I could see.
Speaker 1: Him making an impact.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Maybe not the same way that Schoonmaker would, But I
Speaker 7: just because of Schoomaker coming in, you know, kind of
Speaker 7: being behind it with the with the injury, I just
Speaker 7: feel like he's that number three tight end and I
Speaker 7: guess he can get up to two. I just don't
Speaker 7: see him jumping Ferguson this year, but maybe he doesn't
Speaker 7: need to. Maybe if he's the number two tight end,
Speaker 7: that's a bigger impact than Mazi.
Speaker 2: But do you yeah, do you see Mazzi jumping Jonathan
Speaker 2: Hankins for the for the nose tackles bottom any point
Speaker 2: this year? I think it's more likely than Schoonmaker jumping Ferguson.
Speaker 4: But I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see a rotation between those guys,
Speaker 2: and if Hankins especially plays the way that he did,
Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to see any movement up
Speaker 2: front there. It's not like Mazzie played a ton of snaps.
Speaker 2: He played seventeen snaps. He had a tackle, and he
Speaker 2: also had a hurry, so he was productive in the
Speaker 2: seventeen snaps. For a defensive tackle, that's about what you
Speaker 2: can ask for. He can ask for a couple stops,
Speaker 2: ask for a couple of pressures, and then maybe you
Speaker 2: force a fumble or you do something big there to
Speaker 2: create a turnover. He didn't do anything over the top,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't like he was necessarily poor in his
Speaker 2: first game. That's kind of my point is it's up
Speaker 2: and down. He's a rookie, let it, let it grow,
Speaker 2: let it build, and he's in a position that's not
Speaker 2: the flashiest as a rookie either. It's not like Michael
Speaker 2: Parson's coming off the edge and he's got thirteen sacks.
Speaker 7: Like.
Speaker 4: It's different.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit different, So maybe you can tap
Speaker 2: the brakes a couple times on Mazzie Smith and seeing him,
Speaker 2: I tweeted out the other day Cowboys win forty to nothing.
Speaker 2: Join us on postgame whatever. It was game night, and
Speaker 2: the first reply on there made me roll my eyes
Speaker 2: a little bit. I didn't see Mazi out there much.
Speaker 2: You just won forty to nothing, like enjoy it a
Speaker 2: little bit. Cowboys fans enjoy it. But that is just
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: That is a natural fan type thing.
Speaker 2: It totally do is I do it all? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do, I do too.
Speaker 7: Uh. I thought Felipe was gonna say he had no
Speaker 7: IgG ben agny as the score first touchdown.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't believe you. I don't believe you. Yeah, blame
Speaker 2: pick six's pretty good.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 2: It was very close. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: Going into our previews this week, of course, tomorrow will
Speaker 2: preview the Cowboys defense versus well the new look Jets offense,
Speaker 2: and then on Thursday we'll preview the Cowboys offense versus
Speaker 2: the Jets defense. What's one matchup you're looking forward to
Speaker 2: the most.
Speaker 4: In this week?
Speaker 2: Going going into this week two matchup with New York
Speaker 2: CD in sauce, Yeah, you think they'll match up against
Speaker 2: each other a little bit.
Speaker 4: I think they will get I mean, it's gonna be
Speaker 4: CD or be Cooks. It's gonna be one of those two.
Speaker 4: But I'm looking forward to CD. I think CD will
Speaker 4: be up for this challenge. I think he is that
Speaker 4: type of competitor. He likes to talk, like to have
Speaker 4: the snotty nose. Sometimes hot Sauce gives you a snotty nose.
Speaker 4: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that's easy to me.
Speaker 7: That's if there's tiers like that, exactly, if there's tears
Speaker 7: to it. My number one at the top tier is
Speaker 7: is definitely Sauce Gardner against C d.
Speaker 14: Lamb.
Speaker 1: That will be against each other.
Speaker 7: But then since you said that, I'll go with whoever,
Speaker 7: whether it's Digs, Gilmour both, whoever is on Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 7: that'll be entertained too, But not as much as I
Speaker 7: think Sauce and CD. I just I think that would
Speaker 7: I mean, if I'm coaching the Jets, I would think
Speaker 7: that I'd want to put Sauce on CD as much
Speaker 7: as possible. I mean, I just look at if you
Speaker 7: can somehow neutralize him and potentially take him away. I
Speaker 7: think any team would love to be able to do
Speaker 7: that to this Cowboys offense because that's absolutely your number
Speaker 7: one option that you want to get the ball to
Speaker 7: with CD Lamb. I mean you just look at It's
Speaker 7: not like he had ten catches or anything. They came,
Speaker 7: but when he was touching the ball, I mean, it's
Speaker 7: big plays. Like if you can neutralize that that that
Speaker 7: would mean a lot more, I feel like, to the
Speaker 7: overall chances of winning the game.
Speaker 4: But Sauce didn't even have the three interceptions last night.
Speaker 1: That's fine.
Speaker 2: What's it?
Speaker 7: Was it?
Speaker 2: Jordan Whitehead, the safety that had three picks for the
Speaker 2: for the Jets last night. He's coming for you, Trayvon.
Speaker 2: He's coming for that.
Speaker 4: Eleven center in his contract last night alone. Yeah, no
Speaker 4: doubt he did know he did two bonus Wow. Good
Speaker 4: for him for he had three in his contract that
Speaker 4: he had one night. Good for him.
Speaker 12: Him.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite matchup?
Speaker 5: Both of those two were definitely mine, But I'll pick
Speaker 5: a different one just just for fun. Whoever takes on
Speaker 5: the challenge of Breeze Hall, because not only did he
Speaker 5: look great in the running game last night, but when
Speaker 5: Zach Wilson came in, he was gonna have him and
Speaker 5: Dalvin Cook were having to take on some responsibilities in
Speaker 5: the receiving game. And you would be a fool to
Speaker 5: think that they're not going to try to integrate those
Speaker 5: running backs as much as they can in the receiving
Speaker 5: game with the way that defensive line is going to
Speaker 5: put pressure on them. So the running games, yes, but
Speaker 5: more specifically, how are they going to attack, you know, handling.
Speaker 6: Those guys in the receiving game.
Speaker 4: Who are you more afraid of a Breeze or.
Speaker 5: Dalvin after last night, Breeze? But before last night I
Speaker 5: would have told you Dalvin, But after the man, Breeze
Speaker 5: looked great. Less look you had to think before he
Speaker 5: got hurt last year, he was one of only two
Speaker 5: guys that had four hundred rushing yards and two under
Speaker 5: your stats guy four hundred rushing yards and two hundred
Speaker 5: receiving yards through this first seven weeks, him and McCaffrey.
Speaker 5: So like that, he's he's going to be a threat
Speaker 5: out of the backfield. I worry about him more out
Speaker 5: of the backfield than Dalvin, And I would have told
Speaker 5: you that yesterday too. But as far as running downhill
Speaker 5: and being physical, that's more Dalvin's bag. But that's a
Speaker 5: scary one two points year. That's a nasty one two punch.
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how dmount Clark rebounds because in
Speaker 2: my initial film study, I didn't think to moan Clark.
Speaker 2: He didn't have to do a whole lot, but he
Speaker 2: didn't have his best game. I had one tackle, and
Speaker 2: I was curious, so I went to Pro Football Focus
Speaker 2: and looked at their grade. They had a thirty nine
Speaker 2: run grade run defense grade. For d'mont Clark. I think
Speaker 2: he's going to see a step up. He's better than
Speaker 2: that in terms of run defense. And he once again
Speaker 2: didn't have to do much, but in the times that
Speaker 2: he did, he didn't necessarily look great, uh playing against
Speaker 2: the run. So I'm excited to see him rebound before
Speaker 2: we get out of here.
Speaker 7: One other one real quick, Yeah, Quinnin Williams, just because
Speaker 7: of the fact that they're coming off of a team
Speaker 7: that you know, we had talked a lot about the
Speaker 7: defensive tackles over there, and they really didn't wreck the
Speaker 7: game like they possibly have the ability to for the Giants,
Speaker 7: and so Quentnin Williams another one for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so dub yeah, you dub q do qu versus
Speaker 2: that's about to say. I didn't think he went to Washington.
Speaker 4: Out of one hundred snaps, what's the what who wins
Speaker 4: the most? Zach Martin? Cute up, Zach Martin Martin? It's
Speaker 4: not even what is it is? Eighty twenty, It's it's like.
Speaker 2: Ninety five five. Yeah, Shannon Gross knocking on the glass five? Yeah? Uh, John,
Speaker 2: we didn't get a chance to give you our smelly
Speaker 2: stick Grab the helmet, man, Yeah, grab the helmet it Yeah,
Speaker 2: I grab it.
Speaker 4: So okay.
Speaker 2: Smelly stickers are like helmet stickers. Give us your player
Speaker 2: of the game yesterday. He can pick one, any any
Speaker 2: one of them, and you got to give us your
Speaker 2: player of the game. You have two days with the sticker,
Speaker 2: specifically from two days ago.
Speaker 5: I missed that part yesterday about tying it in with
Speaker 5: the sticker that you did an okay job.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just picked a random A great cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great all right.
Speaker 1: You could have given me a heads up on this.
Speaker 2: Sorry, we just assumed you watched the show yesterday. That's
Speaker 2: what it was. I was definitely missed an airport just
Speaker 2: said what Nick missed the spot with the sticker. I
Speaker 2: mean like like tying it in.
Speaker 4: He was way off.
Speaker 2: He admitted it. Yeah, he'll be better next week.
Speaker 4: People was like, no, I'm doubling.
Speaker 2: Damn, I am doubling. Does too much work in the
Speaker 2: back for him to not tie it in with the grapes.
Speaker 6: Tough debut for the kid.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to think of which one of these need
Speaker 7: some help. I'm trying to think which one would would
Speaker 7: best fit Michaeh Parsons.
Speaker 2: Oh, Micah, you already had Mike. We already like you
Speaker 2: can do two for one.
Speaker 7: That's these are like to these are too happy for
Speaker 7: like defensive player.
Speaker 4: Tell them we have mic on there, we have dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or you could tell me how you guys have
Speaker 1: have Micah dan Quinn?
Speaker 4: Uh the other ones osa osa osa and then Beam
Speaker 4: chose Dicks Dicks, so you got somebody else.
Speaker 1: Jeez.
Speaker 2: Thanks, We really did put we did put them on
Speaker 2: the spot here. This is terrible.
Speaker 7: I mean, well, you put me on the spot and
Speaker 7: then you take away like the most.
Speaker 4: All four of the guys there were seven sacks. We'll
Speaker 4: be better about this next five forced fumbles.
Speaker 5: M hm.
Speaker 6: Zach Martin had a ninety three great interception.
Speaker 7: And I'm I'm I get all that. I'm just a
Speaker 7: lot of this goes back to Micah for me on
Speaker 7: a lot of those sacks. Yeah, you put my seven
Speaker 7: guys on Michaeh Parsons.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: It does open things other things up.
Speaker 5: While you do think the Osa sack was it was Micah,
Speaker 5: it was You see Micah just taking two guys and
Speaker 5: pushing them out the club like it's.
Speaker 6: It's and then here comes around the corner.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Osa is about to get a payday and he's gonna
Speaker 2: have to give some of it to Micah.
Speaker 1: When I walked in here the package, I'm not supposed
Speaker 1: to open it.
Speaker 4: No you can't.
Speaker 1: No, I did not think. I just this doughnut looks good,
Speaker 1: So I'm just going with that.
Speaker 12: Sweet.
Speaker 7: I did not think when I was watching the game
Speaker 7: that Marquis Bell played as well as he did when
Speaker 7: I was watching it in the press box. But I
Speaker 7: was telling Nick when I got back here and got
Speaker 7: a chance to watch it over again, I could not
Speaker 7: believe how many times like he really he stood out.
Speaker 7: And I guess it also as the factor in is
Speaker 7: like your expectations, like I thought he would be able
Speaker 7: to play and make someone of an impact I did
Speaker 7: not think he would play on the level that he
Speaker 7: did week one, and that's probably probably also my fault,
Speaker 7: because when a guy's undrafted sometimes I'm like, yeah, what
Speaker 7: are you really going to expect from that?
Speaker 1: But I thought he was really impressive. So I'll give him.
Speaker 1: Who was the other ones that you gave him to?
Speaker 2: So we gave him the digs Parsons, Osa and dan
Speaker 2: Quinn and I've got one.
Speaker 1: I just thought it looked good.
Speaker 2: He's the icing on the doughnut of a sweet perform
Speaker 2: moments from the defense, Marquise Bell sprules it on top.
Speaker 7: That has maybe the best defense in the NFL. And
Speaker 7: I think that they're pretty nasty and there's nothing in
Speaker 7: here that symbolizes their defense.
Speaker 4: That hard candy.
Speaker 7: You might want to hard need to get some more.
Speaker 7: That's something that actually like some monsters and things like that.
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe maybe some animals that.
Speaker 4: Hard candy doesn't. Your grandma's little little about twenty.
Speaker 2: Seven years old, that looks like.
Speaker 1: That she gives you that she gives you at church.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find some halloweens scratching bottom of the person.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find some animals scratches, sniffs, from John Lions. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: tons of lions. Lean on there, Leon, My online shopping
Speaker 2: account is going to be filled with smelly stickers here
Speaker 2: over the next week. Trying to get ready for next week.
Speaker 2: All right, when we come back tomorrow nine am Central Time,
Speaker 2: we'll be back at the regular time. Appreciate you sticking
Speaker 2: with us here for a lunchtime episode, but we will
Speaker 2: preview the Cowboys defense. Micah Parsons and the Doughnut on top.
Speaker 2: Marquise Bell getting things done against the New York Jets.
Speaker 2: Sack Wilson at quarterback for Isaiah stanback, John Matchoda, Nick Harris,
Speaker 2: Chris pave in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long.
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow with more Talking Cowboys. This has
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