WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Diggs' Step Forward 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:08.280 The following. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:10.280 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:19.840 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. No Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:21.400 screening live. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.800 From the Dallas Cowboys World Colors. 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:29.520 At the Star in Frisco. Streaks second, Let's Got ten, 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.120 takes twenty touchdown. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:37.760 And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda, 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:39.600 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.640 It's a Talking Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.200 Black Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.440 Live from the s WBC studios at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:56.960 We have Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Matchoda. I'm Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.639 Glad you're with us here on this Tuesday. We are 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.880 taking your text messages and your phone calls. Eight eight 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.679 eight eight five five two two nine seven is the 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.399 phone line. That's eight eight eight eight five five two 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:10.840 two nine seven, and then the text line is eight 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:15.000 one seven two nine zero three two nine eight. 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.680 I say, was already feeling silly. He just started laughing 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.360 for no reason. Maybe don't I don't even know what 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:20.039 I'm laughing at. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.400 Kyle knows that I'm a very observant human. 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:23.640 You're very observant. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.040 So yesterday you had a you had on the forty 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:29.959 burger polo. Today he has on a forty burger polo. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:31.760 I put it on my chest because I say it 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.480 with the chest. I actually when I when I was 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.440 looking through my closet, which by the way, is an 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.320 absolute wreck right now because we're still moving into the 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.480 house and we don't have a washer or a dryer, 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.119 so we've had to go to the laundromat. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.040 You know, there's one that does it all in one. 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.320 I don't have that type of money, dude, What are. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.320 You talking about? You guys here that fans donate that 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:50.960 to Kyle. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.000 Stop, No, not doing that either. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:58.840 They're donating stuff. I'll take one of these, a one. 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.560 Actually, we get it installed tomorrow so it'll be much 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.440 better and I can kind of organize this stuff. But 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.680 all my Cowboys polos are in one spot right now 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.840 and they're all just kind of like stuffed and folded 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.280 and stuff. So I was taking off the polo off 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.960 of the hangar and I saw this, and I was like, Oh, 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:17.440 I was like, I've got to do it. Just based 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.880 off of what you said yesterday about Nick Harris is polo, 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:20.520 So I brought it. 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.200 Are you a wire hanger guy? Plastic film? 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.400 So I'm a I don't give a flip what the 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.400 hanger is. I do not care. Give me something to 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.000 hang it on and I'll hang it on there. My 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.200 wife is the Felt. She loves the Felt one with 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:34.040 the flat grip. 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:35.440 Yeah, yeah, that's what she likes. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.320 He said, flip. He's a little more PG today. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:43.680 I did get a text message yesterday. That's unfortunate. Isaiah's 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.799 daughter who's watching We love you Sky. All right, let's 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.240 talk about the Cowboys and the Jets coming up this 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.519 week before we take the phone calls. Things changing a 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.840 little bit. Huh, John, whenever you go back and you 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.520 look at what happened last night, no more Aaron Rodgers 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.000 and Achilles injury. We wish the best for his recovery, 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:05.600 but partially a bummer. It is a bummer for the 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.760 Cowboys because I wanted to see them go up against 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.280 Aaron Rodgers and see see this defense tested against the best, 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.280 and Aaron Rodgers has been one of the best throughout 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:13.760 his career. 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.160 Yeah, it was very clear for the game. Michael Parsons 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.000 did as well. Nobody even aske him about the Jets, 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.520 and he offered up multiple times about wanting to face 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.680 Aaron Rodgers next week. So yeah, that's not gonna happen, 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.440 And yeah it's disappointing. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:27.480 And when I'm watching games like that. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.640 I'm always like, should I tweet this out right now 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.799 because they're playing the Cowboys next? Am I going to 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:34.760 point out that this looks like that he's definitely not 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.760 going to play in this game. But at the same time, 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.000 I'm just like, I kind of want to leave it 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.520 alone because people are obviously pretty sensitive at the moment, 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:42.880 and I don't want it to be look like I'm 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:43.960 just looking. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:48.040 Like, oh, this is going to help the Cowboys, but obviously. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.400 A lot of other people don't care about that and 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.400 post that stuff. So it's like, I mean, it is whatever, 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.040 but it is when you see anybody having to get 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.240 the card out, you know that's not great. 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.680 And and I know this. 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.960 Isn't a Aaron Rodgers, but I will say there was 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.640 a part of me when we left the stadium Sunday 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.560 night that I was like, oh, it looks like the 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.120 Cowboys got out of here without any like notable injuries, 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:15.040 which if you follow the other stadiums. Met life is 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.680 very high on the list of ones that people are 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.360 concerned about with the playing surface, and so I thought 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.039 about that when I was leaving, and then I don't 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:23.719 know that I can't sit there and say that injury 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.760 was because of the surface or whatever, but it is 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:28.240 one of those that I just know that there's been 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.919 a lot of talk about that being and just the 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.000 fact of the weather that the Cowboys played in Sunday 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.400 night on that surface. To leave there without any notable injuries, 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.719 I mean, that's that's a huge one out of itself. 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.039 But yeah, I guess Zach Wilson's gonna have to be 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.560 the guy for them, and it'll be interesting to see 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.120 how they handle that because there's some, you know, some 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.760 notable talent on that team that they're not in a rebuild. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.400 So if he's struggling, I find it hard to believe 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:55.760 they're just going to stand pad and be like, well, 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:57.320 we're just going to work with Zach through throughout the 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:58.000 end of the season. 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.240 So yeah, it's a really good team. We did it 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.159 out right after the game last night, Aaron Rodgers or not, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:03.760 it's gonna be a really good team that comes into 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.239 at and t on Sunday. But talking about the Rodgers injury, 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.320 you could see it whenever his calf just ballooned. That's 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.359 that's typically a telltale sign of you know, an achilles injury. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.719 So hoping he can recover, just because that team is 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.200 so much fun and a lot of hype going into 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.240 the year, and I think they probably would have had 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:20.719 their way with Buffalo if he was if he was 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.440 fully healthy last night. But you know what can Zach 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.560 Wilson bring to the table? I think it's going to 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.120 be They're gonna kind of have to rework a lot 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:29.839 of things. You know that their playbook is not going 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.800 to be the same. You know, he's going to be 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.560 a more of a short to intermediate guy. They're going 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.680 to try to, you know, get those methodical drives. The 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:37.360 defense is gonna be on the field for a long time. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.600 They have a really established running game with Breeze Hall 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:41.680 and Dalvin Cook. Both of those guys looked good at 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.760 times last night, Breeze Hall especially. I think he was 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.800 over one hundred yards on his first two carries. So 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.320 that they're gonna have to come to play. I think 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:49.200 the the run. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.360 Defense is going to be especially tested on Sunday. 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.680 Garret Wilson's No Slouch Garret Wilson Show has shown that 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:54.520 you don't need to. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.279 Throw to They got that guy, He'll be okay. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.800 Yeah, you felt the inn at least from the lead 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.200 up of that game Monday Night Football Prime Time. It 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.599 was at MetLife of course nine to eleven in the 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.760 celebration pregame, but it was the buzz around Aaron Rodgers 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:11.640 and what he was doing coming out of the tunnel 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.440 and just the hope that he brought. That was going 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.560 to be very similar to the buzz in the lead 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.720 up of this game, just because the Bills are a 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.039 very good opponent and the Jets are a very good team, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.440 and then the Cowboys doing what they did in Week one, 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.360 Week two at AT and T Stadium was going to 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.080 have a very similar buzz whether it was a three 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.200 to twenty five game or not. That's what I was anticipating. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.680 That buzz may not be the same level, but it 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.880 should be very close at least in the locker room, 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.560 because you cannot let up against this Jets team. You 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.240 saw it last night. They can find a way to 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.200 win a game even without Rogers in the full. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.080 All of that is why I don't understand if you 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.440 ever meet somebody that's a big sports fan who isn't superstitious, because. 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:49.400 There just is. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.479 Whenever you think that you have it all, like just 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:54.640 be calm about it, because it can easily just drop 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.760 off so fast, Like I mean, how hype they were 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.280 going in that season, all the build up like that. 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.719 Like that's why I don't get into the whole like 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.039 talking a lot of trash going in when you're I'm saying, 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:04.960 a fan, when you're a player, you have an impact 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:05.440 in the game and. 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:05.880 Stuff like that. 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.200 But I'm just very superstitious about anything like that. Honestly, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.760 it probably comes back. The best way to describe it 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.240 is that Jerry Jones says all the time about, you know, 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.960 working in the NFL, it's like holding two handfuls of jello, 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:18.480 Like you think that you have it. As soon as 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.600 you think that everything's cool, something happens like that, you know, 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.200 and you just and to be honest, to go win 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:25.360 a Super Bowl, you're gonna have to have a lot 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.000 of things bounce your way to begin with. But yeah, 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.400 how quickly it is something like second third series, It's 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:34.040 like he's running out with the American flag. Everybody's pumped. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.120 Place is going crazy. A couple plays boom done, four 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.320 plays in and just cameraman just turned into just panning too. 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.320 The crowd, just getting crowd shots of upset Jets fans. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.960 Yeah, MRI, I converbs torn Achilles versus the Bills out 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.920 for the season. You've torn your achilles, Isaiah. Want to 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.680 get your input. What is that recovery process like for 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.400 especially somebody that's turning forty in December like Aaron Rodgers 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.480 and I've got I've got a way to relay this 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.640 back to the boys. I'll ask that secondly, but let's 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.560 start with just the Achilles injury as a generality. 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.640 Yeah, it just sucks. So prayers up to Aaron Rodgers 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.600 for sure. It's a bad mind space to be in. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.800 It just is you put so much work in to 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.320 get yourself prepared and something like that that's not preventable. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.600 There's nothing that he could have done training wise, it 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.520 could have been better. There's none of those things, right, 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.080 It's just it's just happens. It happened to me, it 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:29.320 happened to Bury Church. Yep. You know, it just it sucks. 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.840 It sucks for them, you know, they built this entire 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.680 year pretty much around him. You know, they have a 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.800 lot writing on him this year. He bet on himself 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.480 in a major way this year, and for something that 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.240 you can't control to happen to you, that's it's the 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.440 worst thing in the world. So now he has a 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.440 I think it took me about seven months to get 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:52.559 back from my achilles tear. It's it's it's a lot 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.280 of hard work. It's a lot of hard work, man. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.280 You know, you start off from ground zero. They you 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.920 go get your surgery. You're in a cash you're on crutches. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.400 Then you work your way off of that. You're in boot. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.360 You know, you're in a walking boot. Then you start 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.280 learning how to move your toes again and how to 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.480 flex your ankle. I mean it sucks, you know, it 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:13.120 really sucks. You're as far removed from normalcy as possible. 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.440 And now he has to just turn into a cheerleader 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.400 for his team and probably hopefully try to provide some 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.600 wisdom for that quarterback room. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.480 I mean, Kobe Bryant is probably one of the most 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.240 athletic human beings that I've ever walked the earth, and 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:25.880 I just looked it up to be I wanted to 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:27.720 be accurate on this. He was thirty four when that 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.000 happened to him, and now he still played some seasons 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.880 after that, and I mean Hack's last game was incredible, 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:37.080 But at forty Aaron Rodgers is definitely not that athletic. 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:39.040 It's going to be it's. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.120 Gonna be a big, uphill climb to get back from 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:41.720 that whole deal. 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.480 I mean, the good thing is I know, for me specifically, 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.200 I guess that's what I could speak to. I came 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.280 back bigger, faster, stronger, Okay, Right, So if you have 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:53.120 a dog mindset and you have the resources, which we 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.520 obviously know he does for sure, you know, it really 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.760 just comes down to does he want to come back? Right? 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.120 And anything that I I do know about Aaron Rodgers, 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.959 He's about as competitive as it gets. And he also 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.360 looks for all forms of alternative medicine. So I'm sure 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.600 he's gonna be up on the game in terms of 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:11.440 trying to make sure that he has all the different 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.200 treatment types possible to come back. I would. I would 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:15.559 if I'm not a betting man, but if I was 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:17.160 a bet money, he would probably come back from this 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.800 sooner than most people would. So prayers up for him, 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.520 but obviously it changes things a ton for the Cowboys. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:28.000 Now your entire game plan is I would assume it's 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:32.560 different now for Dan Quinn because from my perspective, if 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.520 I'm Dan Queen playing against Aaron Rodgers, I need to 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.640 heat him up. I need to heat him up. Even 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:38.640 though you're front for his absolute dogs, I still need 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:39.959 to find a way to heat him up because I 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.720 have to make him uncomfortable. When Aaron Rodgers is uncomfortable, 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.160 you at least get him out of pocket, get him 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:45.920 a little flustered. He could he may throw a couple 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.960 up to you. Now, because Zach Wilson, I'm gonna sit back. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.040 I'm let my front four go eat. I'm gonna make 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.280 this dude find a way to find a hole somewhere 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.559 in my defense and see if he could be accurate, 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.000 because his history says he can't. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.120 I'm shifting my focus to the running game one hundred 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.599 per Those are the guys that'll beat the Cowboys on 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:08.320 Sunday if they do. Curious during your Achilles recovery, how 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.920 were darkness retreats for you? 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:11.080 Did? 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:12.000 Did they help at all? 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.280 I didn't have any darkness, but I tell you I 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.320 went to some dark places, man, I could tell you. 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.000 I can tell you that it is. It's a bad 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.280 place to be. So I hope that everybody is super 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.240 empathetic to Aaron Rodgers. I know there's a lot of 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.920 people who don't really care for him, and you know how, 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.120 he's an individual. I respect the crap out of him 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.200 for being an individual and being a self thinker. He 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:31.960 doesn't go with the rest of the people. I'm that 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.200 same type of person, so I have a lot of 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.120 respect for him in that regard. So it's a tough 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:38.280 place for him to be right now. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.679 Yeah, yeah, I just watching him for so long because 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.040 I mean, he always owned the Lions and just seeing 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.199 him as much as he played, I always thought, I 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.280 always and I still do, think of Aaron Rodgers as 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:55.760 wearing like the old school football helmet, wearing the shoulder 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.640 pads that look like they're probably for a kicker, doesn't. 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:00.560 I mean, he looks like the least pas added up. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.360 Player up until maybe and I'll tell you what, Brandon 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:05.120 Cooks does not look like he was very much patting either. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.920 But it just to see him go down like that, 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:10.640 just in my head, I was like, oh, No, he'll 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.040 be back. He'll come back out there like they're probably 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.800 just it's probably an ankle thing. They'll retape him up, 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.160 like I'm just the only other time I can think 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.080 of him going down like that was the Anthony bar hit, 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:25.160 which that ended up leading to some rule changes because 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.400 of that. But yeah, you just assume, oh no, no, 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.160 he's gonna come out of that tent, he'll be back 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.040 out there, or that it's going to be like a 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:32.480 couple of week things or something like that. 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.000 And then I knew it immediately. Yeah, I knew immediately. 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.880 And I honestly, you know, people might say be a software. 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.600 I wish they would stop showing the replay, honestly, just 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.400 out of respect of him, because I can't even watch 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.880 the replay without having flashbacks. And it doesn't hurt when 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:49.760 it happens, It doesn't hurt. There's no pain. All the 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.839 nerves are torn like, there's no pain at all. You 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:53.240 didn't see him crying, Graymason. None. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:54.679 No, he stood right back up. He was in the 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.280 huddle and then he had to sit back down. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:57.840 But you know why he sat back down. He sat 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.400 back down because the reality set in for him as 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.840 to what happened when I tore Mindes. I literally stopped 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.440 in the middle of my route when I tore mine, 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:05.760 and I just took my helmet off and threw it 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.400 and was pissed. I knew I hadn't thot about Achilles, 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.440 not one time before that, but that was in my 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.800 contract year. Everything that I worked for was gone at 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.920 that point in time, and not just the reality of 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.560 what just happened set in and you literally just stare 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.160 off into space. You hear noise around you, people talking 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:22.439 to you, but you don't hear it, you know what 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.600 I mean. You're just like so much is going through 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.360 your mind, Like what's going on? Am I going to 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:27.480 come back from this? How long is it going to 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.320 take me to come back? Do I have another chance? 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:29.480 Like? 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.000 What's everything looked like for me? Like his mind is 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:33.880 going on thousand So when he was in that cart, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:35.360 when he was on the ground, when you laid back 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.520 on the ground, I felt for him when he was 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.720 on that cart, I've had that same look in my 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.320 eye before. It was just like I'm physically here, but 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:42.920 I'm not here. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.560 Yeah, to defend the TV people just a little bit. Okay, 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:50.160 So when Kevin Durant had it happen. He's wearing shorts 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.800 and you can see real quick how the impact it 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.240 had on his achilles. It was kind of tough, like 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.079 you had to really zoom in to see it, because 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:58.840 I wanted to see a couple of replays because I 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.800 was like, what is it? What didn't Yeah, because in 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.360 regular speed, I was like, oh, he just rolled his 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.600 ankle or something like that, you know, And so maybe 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.040 that's why they were showing more of them. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.920 But I will say from a production standpoint, just being 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.040 in trucks and doing that, that part of the TV 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:18.600 copy is to provide viewership with the insight to what 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.720 is happening in the game, and at least in this case, 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.720 not in every case. I mean, if a star player 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.880 goes down, you're going to show it. If one of 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.680 the other guys goes down, Let's say John Stevens, for example, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.240 in the Seattle game, whenever he tore his achilles an 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.160 unfortunate break for the Cowboys, we showed it one time 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.000 and he really didn't get a good look out of it, 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.320 and it was about it. But if it's Aaron Rodgers 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.240 and it's the main storyline, that's the storyline not only 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.560 for the game, but now for the entire Jets season, 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.480 So it's going to be showed over and over. I 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:48.920 agree with you, it's not ideal. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:50.880 It is just I mean, if it was a ball 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.320 stick it out the leg, then they would exactly from 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:55.840 his perspective, it's exact same. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:56.200 Yea. 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.960 Now, how could this change things? And I said, I 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:00.720 had a way to relate this back to the Cowboys 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.920 other than the Week two matchup. Donovan Wilson is going 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.400 through a calf injury and a calf recovery right now. 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.520 Aaron Rodgers had a calf injury and a calf recovery 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.240 and training camp as well that kept him out for 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:13.320 some time through the preseason. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:14.840 That the same thing with Kevin Durant. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:19.400 Same thing with Youavin Durant. There's been notoriety around that before. 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.320 Now Aaron Rodgers it was his right calf and it 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:26.120 was the left achilles that ended up getting injured last. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.920 But it's it all kind of overstimulates and it kind 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:30.880 of goes back and forth. Does that change anything from 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.760 the training staff standpoint when you're looking and dealing with 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.960 Donovan Wilson and his recovery Because we heard from Jerry 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.840 Jones this morning. Some guys on the cusp of returning, 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.160 does this tap the brakes a little bit? 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.480 I think in reality yes. I think if you asked 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.000 them they would say probably no. But I think, yeah, 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.360 how can it not? How can it not when you 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:54.560 have so many examples of people before you that have 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.440 That's what wisdom is, right, being able to see something 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.560 that that's taking place with somebody else and being able 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.800 to digest that information and make any adjustments off of 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.040 that to ensure that you don't run into those same pitfalls. 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.440 So knowing that Aaron Rodgers had a cap string on 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.680 his opposing legue, knowing that he didn't have many reps 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.640 on it going into full speed, and I think the 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.560 mindset is starting to change around the league. There's been 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:21.520 a lot of injuries in this first week tons of preseason. Yeah, 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.480 so I think the mindset is going to change for 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.600 a lot of teams going to next preseason in terms 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.520 of what guy, what it should look like, for guys 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.320 who are starters, what should they play. I'm starting to 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.440 think that people are starting to say yes, because the 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.520 wear and tear, you can't expect me to go you know, 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.200 seventy five eighty percent in practice, you know, call it 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.040 that majority of time and then all of a sudden, 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.360 all right, turn the lights one hundred binders pour you 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.920 know it's not You're starting to see that's not realistic. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.840 I'd be pretty nervous though, if I'm just using him 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.600 as Aaron Rodgers an example, because i mean just the 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:54.400 start of the game, it did not look good in 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.320