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Oh 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 5: my goodness. 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 6: So just ahead of the start of Sunday's Austria, I'm 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 6: surprised you didn't do this yesterday. 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 5: This is right up. Rob's aaliy. 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 6: You know. 18 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 5: Rob's all about Twitter to whatever you want. So an 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 5: anonymous actor. 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: Like he's not, by the way, don't you act like 21 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: he is the most non social media. 22 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 6: And then he'll send you his tweet in the direct 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 6: message in case you missed it, man held up. 24 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 7: I saw a tweet of him today, tweeted tweeted today 25 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 7: of him swinging at a ball with a baseball bat 26 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 7: and it was the most awful thing I've ever seen. 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was bad. It was poor, So Kevin Durant. 28 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 6: Ahead of a Sunday's All Star Game, an anonymous user 29 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 6: shared screenshots of what would look to be a DM 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 6: conversation a group chat amongst friends in it. The handle 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 6: is at get higher seventy seven. People Internet sleuse have 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 6: determined that at get higher seventy seven is one of 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 6: Kevin Durant's Burner accounts, and we don't know that to 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 6: be sure yet, but there is a lot of circumstantial evidence, 35 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 6: including the header, including the people in the group chat, 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 6: one of which it was his co host of a podcast. 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 6: He did it for a while, and that guy's name 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 6: is not a burner accounts, his actual name in the 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 6: group chatty screenshots, But some of the things that were 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 6: that were said by allegedly Kevin Durant in this group chat, 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna read some of them that I can. 42 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 5: He allegedly. 43 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 6: This is all alleged called his current teammate j Jabari 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 6: Smith Junior, a low keyed, rudimentary person said that said 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 6: his current teammate Alpera and Shanggoon can't shoot or defend, 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 6: refer to Russell Westbrook as a triple double cocaine bear 47 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 6: Gosh said that Steve Kerr hated black people ever since 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 6: Michael Jordan punched him in the mouth, called James Harden delusional, 49 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 6: said that Chris Paul does not know blank and refer 50 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 6: to Devin Booker and Frank Vogel as Stalin and Hitler, 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 6: Mussolini and Kim Jong Un. 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: Don't forget the tray young tweets. 53 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 6: I mean there was you could go on. There's plenty 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 6: of screen grabs. So guys, just easy question. If it 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 6: turns out that these d ms are indeed Kevin Durantz 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 6: Burner account, which he has not addressed, None of the 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 6: people in the group chat have currently addressed it as 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 6: of yet, how does he come back from this in 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 6: that locker round? 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 7: He doesn't, No, that would be that would be it, 61 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 7: And I think it all kind of seems like it's 62 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 7: him right allegedly. Right, there's the way he talks, the 63 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 7: way that's he's been sensitive about things in the past 64 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 7: about people talking to him. He's always going to give 65 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 7: you the response that you want, and so for that. 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 7: For those reasons, I can see why people would say that. 67 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 7: I just for a teammate to feel that way and 68 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 7: not be able to talk to that person directly is 69 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 7: the thing that's the issue here, because when you have 70 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 7: a problem on real good team, then you are supposedly 71 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 7: one of the leaders, somebody that's looked up to, obviously, 72 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 7: which he has been throughout the league. He could say 73 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 7: these things to this person directly. So that's the only 74 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 7: thing about this story that doesn't make sense on that 75 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 7: I guess on the surface for me, because he has 76 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 7: the cash they to do that to them directly, and 77 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 7: so for it to be said in that capacity, I 78 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 7: would only think if it was him, it's a little 79 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 7: bit of a humorist thing going on as well, Like 80 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 7: there's and at home when you talk to your homeboy, 81 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 7: you say things about certain people that you know there 82 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 7: could be a little tooth to it, but also it's 83 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 7: meant to be funny, and so I would tend to 84 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 7: think that it lends that the ladder for me, like 85 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 7: maybe there's some some humorist stuff going on between other 86 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 7: people if it is him, because he has a cashay 87 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 7: to do it in their face. So for me, that 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 7: would be the only drawback for me as far as 89 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 7: it being him and being intentional, you know what I mean. 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: Now, I'm gonna jump in and say this, Carrie. 91 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: I believe he was doing almost like a test, like 92 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: some type of scientific tests where you're like, watch this 93 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: as we put out these fake tweets and everything and 94 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: from a burner's and council, just to see how people 95 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 3: will roll with it. Let me show you how people 96 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: don't fact check. Let me show you they believe anything. 97 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: Let me show you how anything, and you know, start 98 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: to become viral. And I think he's trolling because it's 99 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: too specific and certain things. If he was like, yo, 100 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: so and so is a blank or black. He's comparing 101 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: them the world all time world, you know, uh, you know, 102 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: leader dictators, and he's saying certain things. It's like, all right, 103 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: I almost feel like it's so specific that I will 104 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: know you guys fail for the troll. 105 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying. 106 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: I put these little what do they call them Easter 107 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: eggs in it, like because it's so specific that you 108 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: fail for the troll. This thing that I put out 109 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: there one of the things that I'd love about Kevin 110 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: Durant is his authenticity, He'll be the one to be like, yeah, 111 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 3: I was on some burden of the accounts. 112 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 4: I was saying some stuff. My bad. 113 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: I just like to talk to y'all and talk smack 114 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: to people. The other day they asked me at all 115 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: start we can to ask them and said, if I 116 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: think it was, if I'm not mistaken, it was video 117 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: games or Twitter, yeah, go away, And. 118 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: He was like absolutely, uh Twitter. 119 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: He's like, because y'all, y'all basically this guy talk that 120 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: I'm leveling his level of God talk. But I'm giving y'all, 121 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: y'all not ready for So. I think he just enjoys 122 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: having fun. I do think he a lot of what 123 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: he says he authentically believes as far as like especially 124 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: analyzing music and stuff like that. But I just don't 125 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: buy that he would be that crazy, that reckless. And 126 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: if I were to involve, like have some fun with 127 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: it and say that he did, then you're right that that. 128 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: I don't know how redeemable that is for a to 129 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: bounce back from, because like, how how do you bounce 130 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: back from that? 131 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: If you not It's one thing man, I don't like. 132 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 3: He doesn't pass the ball you know, it's that stuff 133 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: is personal, So I don't know how you bounce back. 134 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: And do you have any examples of where stuff got 135 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: too real? 136 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 4: Yeah? 137 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, obviously my time. I'm gonna aige myself here. 138 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 7: But you know, social media wasn't wasn't a big thing 139 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 7: for us, so we didn't have it to that level, 140 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. But as far as maybe 141 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 7: saying something in the media or a player, you know, 142 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 7: trying to get to get through to another player through 143 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 7: the media, that could have happened, but not not a lot, man, 144 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 7: because in my day. 145 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: Man, we we would. 146 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 7: Be fistfighting, we would have we would have those moments, 147 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 7: and so you know, for a player to say it 148 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 7: in the paper, it wouldn't happen that often. So I 149 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 7: didn't have one like a personally, but you would hear 150 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 7: rumblings and you know people and you know there's clicks 151 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 7: in the locker room, people talk about other people or 152 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 7: may have a word with somebody, but it always gets 153 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 7: back to the person and it's going to get handled 154 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 7: in there. 155 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 5: So not to that degree. 156 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 7: I would tell you though, if if a player was 157 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 7: to do this and have burner accounts and it was 158 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 7: validated that it was going on. H there would be 159 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 7: there would be some fisticuff, there would be some things 160 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 7: that would that would happen in the locker room that 161 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 7: would and would have to be handled. 162 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's the danger of social media 163 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: is that you had a bad practice, you had a 164 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: bad game, you had a bad team trip or something 165 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: that as opposed to you going home and kind of 166 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: I'm mad, I can't stand him. He's a he's a 167 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: he's a he's a getting it all off your chest, Yeah, 168 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: call a home or two. Yeah, let it siver down. 169 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: The next day you realize I'm still mad am a 170 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: little bit. But whatever, you can just get to it 171 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: and get your Twitter face just as they go. And 172 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: guys do that. And we've seen Rob g Rob Parker 173 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: and I we sit there, we talk about cause we 174 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: gotta things. Because we got to talk about it becomes 175 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: a big deal. So many people say so many reckless things. 176 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: A J. 177 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: Brown getting on social media, getting on streams, podcast the 178 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: podcast too, And let's not even get on the podcast 179 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: right because it's right there and it's easily accessible and 180 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: you can get right on your phone. Yeah, y'all saw 181 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: I play hard but you see that other the rest 182 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: of the team, and I hate that accessibility and availability 183 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: that that social media gives because it doesn't allow for 184 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: you to take that beat and like you talk it through, 185 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: sleep on it. It's just I'm mad. I'm on the 186 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: team bus back. 187 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait till I get out of here. 188 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 4: They can't do this, they. 189 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: Can't do that, right, And I just I think that's 190 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: been one of the things the drawbacks of social media 191 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 3: is that the immediacy in which you can respond to 192 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: things as opposed to taking a beat. 193 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 7: And you know the thing that would be the equivalent 194 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 7: of that, and my time, it would be the anonymous sources, right, yeah, yeah, 195 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 7: it wouldn't be a name put on a good point. 196 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 7: But this point right here is like it's no name 197 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 7: put on it. We're still alleging and it's based off 198 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 7: what he's done in the past, right, And so that 199 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 7: would be the parallel for us, and for us, we 200 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 7: wouldn't We would never know who it was. We may 201 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 7: have an inkling, but we can never prove it. Rogie, 202 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 7: you said you got a question, I do well. 203 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 6: First off, speaking of anonymous sources, carry you might know 204 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 6: what duve knows this. Rob knows, everyone else knows. You 205 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 6: might not know this when the odd couple breaks up 206 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 6: eventually and there's not a big awful announcing like expos 207 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 6: like what went wrong, Like I'm the anonymous source, I'm 208 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 6: gonna be the one spelling all the tea about what 209 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 6: happened and we really went down you're claiming it, yeah, 210 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 6: and why they broke up. So if you're a listener 211 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 6: of the show, you're gonna know exactly who the anonymous 212 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 6: source was. 213 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 4: Rob. 214 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: You appreciate you tell I'm riting it down right now. 215 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: Rob is the anonymous source. 216 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 6: So going back to this KD situation, right, you guys 217 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 6: have both said that if it's true, they're really no 218 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 6: coming back from as a teammate. Yes, because he has 219 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 6: an a dressed it because the people who are in 220 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 6: the chat have not addressed it from their own accounts 221 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 6: yet alleged like you would think like, hey, that's not real. 222 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 6: I would that is a photoshop. That is not me responding. 223 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 6: Nobody has said that none of the people are in it. 224 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 6: If you are email Doka, do you take it upon 225 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 6: yourself to address it to the team. Where are you 226 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 6: trying to just sweep under the bug and say we 227 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 6: are not even at to talk about one hundred percent. 228 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 5: You got to address it. 229 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 7: It's it's a It's a national topic right now, right 230 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 7: so obviously all those players and all those people in 231 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 7: the locker room have half the same thing we have. 232 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 7: We can all they can all see it. So to 233 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 7: clear the air, you gotta have that conversation. You got 234 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 7: to talk about it. And just I mean, I'm sure 235 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 7: they know in house. And I saw an Instagram post today. 236 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 7: I think I don't even know if it's true now 237 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 7: because I gotta go back and look at it. But 238 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 7: I think Jabari Smith had a post. Can you take 239 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 7: that from you, Rob J where he posted him himself 240 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 7: and Kevin Durant in the post. 241 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 3: So let me know if you saw that. If that's true, Well, 242 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: I'll say this. If I'm email a Doka, I would 243 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: I may not address it. So kdi they saying this 244 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: is a is what I would do is say, hey, look, 245 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna just set reminder of things we talked about 246 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: during the off season. It's outside noise that's what distracts. 247 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: It's it's not having conversations, as you mentioned, carry not 248 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: Mann the man. We're bigger than that. 249 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 4: What we like to do. 250 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: We like to address stuff either as we sit here 251 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: and watch film. We want you guys to have an 252 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 3: open door policy. Come talk to me. And I'm addressing 253 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: it as one of those ways of going. I don't 254 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: know what's what, but I notice saying what we need 255 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: in our locker room. So that's how I would do. 256 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: I don't know that I would like make it all right, Katie? 257 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: Are these your tweets or up? Are you going to 258 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: burner counts or not? How many burner counts you got? 259 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: Now I might pull them aside, properly call them. Hey man, 260 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: just shooting out here, you know, playing some golf between games. Whatever. Look, man, 261 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: you know why we brought you in. Obviously your top 262 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: night scorer, but we need you to also be a leader. 263 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: We also need you to be a guy to set 264 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: the tone with these younger players that we have. 265 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna let the just address the reminder. 266 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 7: Kevin bleeding on you, Kevin, what if he made didn't 267 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 7: do it? Rob g player players meeting players. 268 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 5: Only meeting they have. 269 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 7: That's a good point that these are grown men that 270 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 7: that you know, are allegedly being thrown under the bus 271 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 7: for their shortcomings. Right, So something has to be addressed 272 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 7: because if it doesn't, that thing lingers and you know 273 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 7: that you play, you play sports. If the things aren't 274 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 7: addressed that are keeping teams down or holding us back, 275 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 7: we need to address them. 276 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 5: So I it has to be talked about. 277 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, well quickly, Cary to answer your question that Jabari 278 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 6: Smith Junior. He had a lengthy post on Instagram about 279 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 6: four hours ago. It's fifteen different photographs and there's a 280 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 6: bunch of them with different teammates. One of them is 281 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 6: in with Yeah. But the best part, of course is 282 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 6: the comments. And I'm just gonna read the the top 283 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 6: comment because you know there's like pictures of an elephant, like, hey, 284 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 6: address the elephant in the room, like Kevin Durant that 285 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 6: question mark the top comment, though, says man BORI don't 286 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 6: got a disability, just disability to get buckets. 287 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: He's going to follow in forever, now you know what 288 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 289 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 6: And it gets cleared up, This is gonna follow him. 290 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 5: Thanks a lot, Kadie Jr. And Galen Brunson right for 291 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 5: he never gonna leave us down. 292 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 293 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: the Nation. 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And 308 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: uh then with the All Star Weekend coming about and happening, 309 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 3: we get a lot of conversations coming for that where 310 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: they're asked questions, they're asked, you know, their thoughts on things, 311 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: and we just start to get some great interesting articles. 312 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 3: Rob g we got one from somebody who was the 313 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: general manager of Lebron when he was a Cleveland Cavalier 314 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: and had some interesting thoughts about that run that they 315 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: had together. 316 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 6: That's right, David Griffin, blast from the past. You might 317 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 6: not know about him now, but for a hot second, 318 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 6: he was a big deal in the NBA. He was 319 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 6: the GM for about eight seasons there in Cleveland Smack 320 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 6: dab during the middle of that second Lebron stint. I 321 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 6: believe he got there right after Lebron left, So we 322 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 6: saw the build up with Kyrie and being bad and 323 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 6: all these situations to eventually Lebron shows up, Kevin Love 324 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 6: shows up. We're in the finals every year. 325 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 4: Now. 326 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 5: Things didn't end well for him and end up going 327 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 5: to New Orleans and didn't end well with them there either. 328 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 5: I think he's out of a gig now. 329 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 6: But he did a podcast with a Cleveland Sports network 330 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 6: before the All Star break to discuss Cleveland sports, namely 331 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 6: this current cap team. They just got James harden keon 332 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 6: Allis dan Is Shooter, they're looking to make a move 333 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 6: in the Eastern Conference. And during the course of the conversation, 334 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 6: of course he's most known for that casual with Lebron, 335 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 6: a lot of it was talking about what that run 336 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 6: was like what it was like in the moment, the 337 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 6: trades they made to get there again. 338 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 5: They acquired j R. 339 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 6: Smith, they got Iman Shumper, and during the course of 340 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 6: the conversation, Griff said something that had the old Internet 341 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 6: buzzing over the weekend. Take a listen assessment of the 342 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 6: current state of the calves. 343 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 8: Well, one of the things that we really benefited from 344 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 8: was we were in a historically bad Eastern Conference, and 345 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 8: all through those years we really knew the target is 346 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 8: the Western Conference teams. 347 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: It's there was. 348 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 9: Nobody in the East who was really going to be 349 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 9: in the way. 350 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 6: Right the ear nails the Lebron Invitational for all of 351 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 6: those years. 352 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 9: That now. Yeah, and so the thing that I think 353 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 9: people need to appreciate a little bit more is Tobi 354 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 9: is doing what he's doing, and this Cavs team with 355 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 9: Donovan is trying to do what they're doing in an 356 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 9: Eastern Conference is significantly more competitive than what we had. 357 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 9: So just making the finals will be significant. 358 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: Wow. 359 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: I actually have a differing point of view, So I 360 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: think what he said is factual. 361 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 5: Yep. 362 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 4: I think it was the Leastern Conference. 363 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: I think for maybe fifteen years plus or minus a 364 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: couple I think it was very top heavy. Yes, you know, 365 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: you'd have the Pistons for you know, a handful of years, 366 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: and the and the Boston Celtis, KG and those guys, 367 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: and then okay, now you got Lebron Caves, you had. 368 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: The Bulls for a couple of years with Negros. 369 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: And yeah, so every year a couple of years, you 370 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: have a team or two up top max maybe three. 371 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: But the rest of that, I would agree it was 372 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: the Leastern Conference for sure. But here here's my bigger 373 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: picture on that. I'm not I don't dispute that. What 374 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: I've said for years was which interesting to me is 375 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: the opportunity that Lebron would have had had he went 376 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: to the Western Conference. Here's what I mean, Carrie. There 377 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 3: was about a twelve fourteen year period where we alread 378 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: agree Lebron's best player one or two if you want 379 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 3: to say Kobe for a couple of years. You want 380 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: to say, you know, okay, right there, ye superpower years. 381 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: And I've always said that, Man, I hear people in 382 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: the Leastern Conference. There's no denying that. But if if 383 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: Lebron James went to the Western Conference during that run, 384 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: you know that two thousand and six seven ish to 385 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: you know, twenty. 386 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 4: Sixteen ish, eighteen ish, something like that. Let's say he 387 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I'm out of him going 388 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 4: to the West. 389 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, if I'm pairing that version of Lebron James with 390 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant, because let's say he was a Laker. Let's 391 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: say he was a Laker. Let's say he was with 392 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: that Love City team. Let's say he was with that 393 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: go that Memphis Grizzly team with z Bo and Marcasol 394 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: and now you had a Lebron and Mike Conley. 395 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: Let's say he was a Spur Carrie Rhodse. 396 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 3: Let's say he was with Steve Nash and that iteration 397 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: of the Suns and Amari Stottlemrino's guys, are you. 398 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 5: Ever going to get the Dallas Mavericks here? 399 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 3: Just let that he was a Dallas Maverick with Dirk 400 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: and Jason Kidd and Sean Marion and Jason Terry. My 401 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: point is, I don't think there's debating that the Eastern 402 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: Conference was deleasing for some time. Would have been remarkable 403 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: was if Lebron would have went to the West, and 404 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: to me, he would not have gone to ten or 405 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: eleven finals. I think you would have only gone anywhere 406 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: between four to seven. But what would have happened was 407 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: he might have been five and oh, he might have 408 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: been five and one, he might have been six and oh, 409 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 3: six and one, five and two. My point is he 410 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 3: wouldn't have gone as many times because he would have 411 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: had to get through the other teams that we mentioned. Right, 412 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: if he goes with the Mavericks, we gotta get thro 413 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: Kobe and the Spurs, and so he goes to the Spurs, 414 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: we gotta get through Lakers and US. He would have 415 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: gotten there eventually because the teams would have just been 416 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: too good with him, and he would not have lost 417 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 3: to an Eastern Conference scene, or if he did, he 418 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: would have lost once. 419 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 420 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: If he goes five times, he's four and one, and 421 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: that might have been interesting for his narrative that if 422 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: Lebron was sitting here, Yeah, I only won four, but 423 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: I'm four and oh, and i still have all the 424 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 3: longevities and the records and I'm breaking all this stuff. 425 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: Or I'm five and oh, now not Jordan six and oh, 426 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: but maybe I'm five and one or I'm six and one. 427 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: Because I don't think he would have gone as many 428 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: he would have. I've always said, as much as I 429 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: always tell you were right about the East, I think 430 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: it would have been crazy how he went to the 431 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 3: West because he would have got on a team that 432 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: would have been insane. You know, there's about eight or 433 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: nine teams during that iteration where he would. 434 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 4: If you pair him with them. Who Okay, man crazy. 435 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 7: No, you're not actually like to take It's very interesting. 436 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 7: I mean, he could have went to Houston with the 437 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 7: James Harden and those things. 438 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying because what we saw real quick Carrie, 439 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: what we've seen with Lebron in his prime was as 440 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: long as he has a guy with him, Kyrie d Wade, 441 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: Anthony Davis, and then the surrounding guys the three in 442 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: d Emon schulperd As, Rob g mentioned some other guys 443 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 3: j R. 444 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: Smith and so on. 445 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously you get to the Laker version of 446 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: it with you know, Carusoe and Kuzman all that, then 447 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: you had a great chance to get into the finals. 448 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: I didn't possibly winning, So I always look at this man. 449 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: He would have been loaded if he went to Western. 450 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 7: Comt Yeah, one hundred percent. The thing that I hate. 451 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 7: And the thing that I get from this story for 452 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 7: me is we talked about it, like these podcasts and 453 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 7: these all these opportunities to talk and bash people. For me, right, 454 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 7: there's no way David Griffin should be talking about that 455 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 7: situation when Lebron brought him a ring or what he's 456 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 7: really saying is he didn't do a great job either, 457 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 7: because at the end, at the end of the day, 458 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 7: they go hand in hand. So you're trying to put 459 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 7: blame on Lebron, or you're trying to put blame on whoever, 460 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 7: or take away from what they achieved, or whatever it is, 461 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 7: you're saying the same thing about yourself. And I don't 462 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 7: think people understand that when they go this route of 463 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 7: trying to bash him. Obviously, I think he's second best 464 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 7: player of all time, behind behind Michael Jordan, and that's 465 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 7: where I stand. But the bashing of him here lately, 466 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 7: I know that he's outrun his course. I know he's 467 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 7: outlived his state. Because all those things are true. You 468 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 7: you play long enough, you stay around long enough, you're 469 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 7: gonna become the villain, right, That's just kind of what 470 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 7: it is. But when these people like your GM or 471 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 7: former players leaked these stories about you know, certain things 472 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 7: or you know, the bad stuff about this person because 473 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 7: we praise him so much. I think now when the 474 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 7: pendulum swings, it's all the negative stuff. But coming from 475 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 7: a GM and coming from David Griffin when he came 476 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 7: back to Cleveland to be with you, to help you 477 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 7: form this team. 478 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: And now why he left, keep that in mind exactly now. 479 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: The ownership said, now you're bashing him and talking about 480 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: it's the least in conference, Well you're at least in 481 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: GM as well. 482 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 5: If that's the case. 483 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 7: You know what I mean, Like there's a there's there's 484 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 7: layers to this thing that people when they get on 485 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 7: these podcasts they forget to mention like he was a 486 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 7: part of that. 487 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: Well, and you could argue you if this was the 488 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: Leastern Conference, why couldn't we accomplish more of the calves? 489 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: Right you said? 490 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: You would say, well, couldn't you guys have one more 491 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 3: before that? Before he came Exac actually came back. They 492 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 3: didn't pair him with in my opinion, a lot back then. 493 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 3: You had uh, you had Booby giftson, you had Ils Kiss, 494 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: you had Moe Williams. Yeah, and I mean those weren't 495 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: great pairings, you know, to compete. But again, I totally 496 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: get the sentiment that the Eastern Conference for a very 497 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: large period of time wasn't that spectacular. 498 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 4: I don't disagree with that, but that's. 499 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: Why I've always said, Man, I heard when people have 500 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 3: those those points, I go, you're right, I get it. 501 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: That's why to me, it would have been more remarkable. 502 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: Let me throw a couple of things at you, though, 503 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: what I think people might find interesting. Yeah, you know 504 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: what Lebron was verse the Western Conference when he was 505 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: a calf. 506 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 4: He was when he was a calf. 507 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 3: The first stint, he won fifty nine percent of his 508 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: games versus the Western Conference. This is what the first 509 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: stint of the calves the first stint, But that wasn't 510 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: that great exactly. Yeah, you want to know what he 511 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: was that second stint, which was twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen. 512 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: What's that? Seventy three percent of the games he won? 513 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 3: So what you tell me it's interesting that that, you know, 514 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 3: all the Western Company, Well, he was with some CAF 515 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: teams that would either nah or okay, that's good, that 516 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: sounds and was winning overall. 517 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 4: His total as a cavalier. 518 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 3: This is through the good times, rookies, bad, good, ugly, great, 519 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: all that. Yeah, sixty four percent of the games he 520 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: played against the Western Conference he won. 521 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean that's that's while he was with the Cats. 522 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: I didn't say while he was with lap City or 523 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: with the Spurs, or with Kobe or with the Mavericks 524 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: and Dirk and everybody. 525 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: So I'm just. 526 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: Saying, you know, hear me out, because then they're gonna say, oh, 527 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: you you glaze, which is so funny. 528 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 4: Always tell Roger the funniest part. 529 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: I sit up here in bash Lebron probably six to 530 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: seven out of the ten conversations we have. Roger is 531 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: my witness. But it's called confirmation bias. The one time 532 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: Tuta say something that I'll say, oh, Lebron, I will 533 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: sit up here all day. I don't like that he 534 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: does this. I don't like these passive gress I don't 535 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: like the way he I'm saying, have his son go down. 536 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: I think his son should just stay in the G League. 537 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 3: I don't like the way his approach to this. I 538 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: wish he would play in the post more. I don't 539 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: understand why he does it. But they won't hear that. 540 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: But I just find it's interesting. Sixty four percent of 541 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: his games against the Western Conference he won, and that 542 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: is again the beginning years to the end, and seventy 543 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: three percent that year when he came back when he 544 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: had Kyrie with him, they won seventy three. 545 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 4: That's kind of crazy. 546 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 6: Also, it don't help that you closed with Ron Parker sang, 547 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 6: it don't help that you coped. Like anything that you do, 548 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 6: You're going to be seen as Lebron positive because he's 549 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 6: always a nigga. 550 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 5: He's so just like if Lamar Jackson, you know, yes, if. 551 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 6: Dubb says anything critical of Lamar Jackson, he is viewed 552 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 6: as Lamar Jackson hater. 553 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 5: Which you know what I said, Rob loves Lamar Jackson. 554 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 6: He's the only guy not named Aaron that Lamar loves 555 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 6: that Rob. 556 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: Rob loves and Rob Gie. 557 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: What about about Lamar Jackson since I've been the first 558 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 3: day on this show. What if I said he's the 559 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: best player in football? He's the best player in football, Carrie. 560 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 3: That's what I said, year in year out now two 561 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: football seasons. But boy, if I'm critical, that's what I've learned. 562 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 3: That's what I've learned about people. 563 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: Boy, you either can't be critical of somebody that you 564 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 4: say you like. 565 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 3: For instance, big time fan of J Cole, not the 566 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: biggest fan of this last album. 567 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 5: Okay, but now you know. 568 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 4: You're a hater. 569 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: So it's boy, we are in a zero some game. 570 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 3: You you can't be critical. I think he is one 571 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: of the best rappers ever. I think he sold this 572 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 3: so that, but you know, I'm not biggest fan. I 573 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: think if he was gonna do that version, he did 574 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: this version better years ago albums like Friday and like you. 575 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 7: Hater, right, ke Kel, But you already No, you walk 576 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 7: in this room with Rob. First thing he's gonna say 577 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 7: to you is you gotta be on one side. You 578 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 7: can't toe the fence. And that's the that's the part 579 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 7: of it as well. 580 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: You cannot be a crew, can't be critical, You can't 581 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: be a student, you know bad like I did. 582 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 4: I like this person, but I don't like this. 583 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 5: You can't have nu once. You can't have one. 584 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: No no, But anyway, so I just found out interesting 585 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: just the Western seminos. 586 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 587 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 588 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 589 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 590 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny that this sound is kind of making 591 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 6: his rounds again, considering earlier on Tuesday, ESPNS David minn 592 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 6: And put out a long piece about the Lakers and 593 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 6: why they had a quiet trade deadline, and according to 594 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 6: him and his sources, the biggest reason is because they 595 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 6: want to go big game hunting this offseason and they 596 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 6: believe that they have a legitimate chance to get Yannis 597 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 6: in the Purple and Gold this offseason. What's interesting about 598 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 6: that is that, of course Lakers think that, but number 599 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 6: two Yannis just did an interview with mieke Adgrews that 600 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 6: you mentioned, and I think. 601 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 5: He's committed to Milwaukee. 602 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 6: Take a listen, You're not okay with stay in Milwaukee 603 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 6: and never having that film. No, I want to win 604 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 6: what the most important thing. 605 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 4: I want to win the championship with Wolf Bucks. 606 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: And if that's not on the table in the plants, 607 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: so that's. 608 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 7: When you kind of like, maybe maybe I got a 609 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 7: pie it because I really. 610 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 5: Want to win. 611 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 4: Carrie, I'm taking my head. Let me let me go ahead, 612 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 4: carry let. 613 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: Me carry let me just like I've been saying this 614 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 3: for months now me and Rob get into this all 615 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: the time. 616 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,239 Speaker 4: Even Rob. It's so real. I got Robbed to come 617 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 4: on my side. 618 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: What and then he went back to Giannis his last 619 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 3: week or two, Rob, do you remember that? 620 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: What did he go back for? I don't remember what 621 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 4: he went. 622 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 3: Oh, he actually believed Gianni's because of something he said, 623 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: like a week or two. 624 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 8: Go. 625 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 4: Let me let me break this down for you. Carrie. 626 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: Tell me you've ever been in a relationship and you 627 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 3: like her, and you know everything was going good. In fact, 628 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: it might have been going really good at one point, 629 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 3: allied Giannis and the Bucks and championship you won one. 630 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 4: But now you know, you're starting to enjoyed things out 631 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 4: there and they're. 632 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: Starting to white looking around because you're starting to look around. 633 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 3: And in Gianna's terms, what did he say? I like 634 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 3: being a batty, I like being a hotty? He said 635 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 3: that he lived said he I like being the batty 636 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: being courted people. Are you know that feeling? Everybody knows 637 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: that feeling when you want it? He never fully said 638 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: he didn't want to, you know, explore trades. We get 639 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: all the reports during the offseason that they were looking 640 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 3: at the Knicks, and then during the season or go 641 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: back a season ago. He gets Adrian Griffin fire, they 642 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 3: bring in Doc Rivers. He's making the fuss, so they 643 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 3: bring in Dame Lilin. That does work out. He wants 644 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: this person out. All of this has been going on 645 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 3: over the last couple of years where Yanna's to me, 646 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 3: Carry is not equipped to be the bad guy. He 647 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 3: doesn't fully want to be the bad guy. He doesn't 648 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 3: fully want to break it off. He wants to keep 649 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: If you want to go, we can keep going. I mean, 650 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: I'm happy if you're happy, but I'm not really up. 651 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 3: But I mean we can keep trying to. He doesn't 652 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: want to be the bad guy. He doesn't want to 653 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: look at the camera and say I'm ready to move on. 654 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: I've given him my all, We've won a championship, it's 655 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: been twelve years. I'm ready to try something new, and 656 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: I think it's a great time for us to break up, Amicaby. 657 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to do that. He doesn't want to 658 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: be perceived that way. And I think he's gotten used 659 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: to and I can relate to this, maybe you can. 660 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 4: You're used to being the nice guy, used to being liked. 661 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 3: That it's hard to then be the bad guy, to 662 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: be the villain, for people to have a negative opinions 663 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: on you. Everybody's not built like that. Carry some people. 664 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: Kobe didn't give a Dame. Kobe could care less. Lebron's 665 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: not really built like he tries it the black hat, 666 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: and it didn't work out in Miami, and I think Miami, 667 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: I think Milwaukee is better served at a certain point 668 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 3: to say this is the time to blow it up, 669 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: and you know why, carry on the court. 670 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 4: It hasn't worked out where we have one of the 671 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: best players in. 672 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: The league and we keep competing for championships or at 673 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: least getting there, or at least. 674 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 4: Getting the Eastern Conference finals. 675 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 3: Three first round exits in a row with Giannis so 676 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: with Dame one of those years, and Dame obviously was 677 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: hurt too. But my point is this is a great 678 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 3: time for them to blow it up, to get a 679 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 3: trade in the offseason, whatever they can, get a bunch 680 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: of picks and say we're gonna spend the next couple 681 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: of years getting it right and starting to become the 682 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: Detroit Pistons, trying to be with the Celtics where seven 683 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: eight years ago when they got Jaylen Brown and Jason 684 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: Tatum and Marcus Smart and they got really good yea 685 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: being with Oka. See, they draft a bunch of guys 686 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: and get young, get hungry and become that go back. 687 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 4: Twelve years or so and be what the Warriors were, Right. 688 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: We get Klay, Steph Draymond, we get Harrison Barnes, we 689 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 3: got these young guys. We got something cooking. And if 690 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 3: you're the Bucks, that to me is the game plan. 691 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: Let Giannis go pair it with somebody. Maybe it's Luca, 692 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: maybe's somewhere else. But for them, they got to move on. 693 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: And Giannis has to be okay with being the bad guy. 694 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 7: And Kell you know what, that's that's the that's the 695 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 7: perfect analogy for what's going on. He doesn't want to 696 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 7: be the bad guy. And you know who I fought 697 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 7: for that. I actually fault us for that. The way 698 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 7: we covered the game, the way we cover our stars, right, 699 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 7: we say, if they request to be a if they 700 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 7: request to leave the building, they're the bad guy. 701 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 4: Right. 702 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 7: I think I kind of liking this to Damian Lillard 703 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 7: right in Portland. He kept going at it, kept fighting. 704 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 7: He probably wasn't gonna leave, and I don't think he 705 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 7: had any ideas of that, but I know underneath there's 706 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 7: a there's a competitive fire in Dame Lillard where he 707 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 7: wanted to go somewhere and win. He just didn't want 708 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 7: to be the one in front of the camera saying that. 709 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 7: I think that's the same thing with with Theanna's here, because. 710 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 5: We could see, we can see how frustrated he is. 711 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 7: We can see now that playing with some of these 712 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 7: guys that he's playing with, there is no real rapport. 713 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 7: He's going out there and getting his numbers. But that team, 714 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 7: the way they're constructed, is not gonna win. Then the 715 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 7: pieces that they've added, they you know, they tried to 716 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 7: replace low Paz with Malics Turner. 717 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 5: Seems like a lateral move. 718 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 7: They're similar players, but you know, it just doesn't fit 719 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 7: that way anymore. And I think for them to be 720 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 7: competitive in the East, they're gonna have to blow it up. 721 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 5: And I think he's gonna get what he wants. Milwaukee 722 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 5: has to move off of him. 723 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 7: They have to go out and they have to start 724 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 7: to rebuild, you know, get ready to build this statue 725 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 7: and take care of him after after the fact. But 726 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 7: right now, the way they're constructed, they're not gonna win. 727 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 7: And you hit the nail on the head. He doesn't 728 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 7: want to be the bad guy. 729 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 4: We can all. 730 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 5: I think we can see that. I think it's very 731 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 5: clear to see it. 732 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 4: He doesn't. And again, not everybody's comfort with that. 733 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 3: It's a lot of people are there, Hey, this is 734 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: where I am, and there is an element you brought up, 735 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: Damian Lillan. 736 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 4: He is from the Bay Area. 737 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: One of the phrases they have like loyal to the soil, 738 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: you know, and there's that I want if I got 739 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: to get it to hardway, then I'll get it to hardway. 740 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: A lot of people always say, what would Kevin Garnett 741 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: have looked like if he left a little earlier? 742 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 4: You know, he was remember that epic interview. 743 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: John Thompson God Blessed the Dead interviewed him and he 744 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: just kg looks at He's like, I'm losing and he 745 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 3: starts crying. He's like I'm losing. And he kept going 746 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: and he kept going. And guys like that are so 747 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: loyal and they want to and I get it. I 748 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: respect that's probably honestly how I would be. You know, 749 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 3: I just want to keep trying with my guys, keep 750 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: trying with my guys, all right, now we're gonna get 751 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: it this time. Carry here we go carry and eventually 752 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 3: it's like, all right, maybe it's not working especially and 753 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: I do think it's a difference if your organization isn't 754 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 3: doing right by you. And to be fair, I don't 755 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: believe that's the case with the Bucks. I believe they 756 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 3: try that you want Dame, let's go get Dame. You 757 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: don't want Do you want to go get Doc? We 758 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: got Doc Adrian Griffin, who had been being successful throughout 759 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: that portion of the year. 760 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta go. 761 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: You know, you want your brother back, Go get the 762 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 3: honest Like they've tried their best, all things considered, So 763 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: I don't think they're out there half blanking it, you know. Yeah, 764 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: but at a certain point it's okay for a clean breakup. 765 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 3: And I think to your point, if there's anyone that 766 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: we all can look and say, as a professional athlete 767 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: gave it is all blunt, sweat, tears, laid it out. 768 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 4: There was great to the city. 769 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: Was great to see this dear of an athlete who 770 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 3: didn't know what he was doing. He had to get 771 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: trained and learn the game, become a star, MVP superstar. 772 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: This was the one guy who could break up and 773 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: we all would go, you know what, he deserves to 774 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: try something new, and. 775 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 4: Kell he's to me the one guy. 776 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, and kel if you don't know other part of 777 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 7: this story, stop letting your players pick other players to 778 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 7: pair with in situations to try to win, a lot 779 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 7: of times when players are picking players they want to 780 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 7: play with, these are people they admire or people they 781 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 7: have a relationship with. It doesn't mean it's going to 782 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 7: be the perfect fit for that team. And so I 783 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 7: think that's the other part of it. I mean, I 784 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 7: know you want to consult with them if they're your stars, 785 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 7: you want them to be happy what you just stated 786 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 7: with Milwaukee and these other franchises that do that. But 787 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 7: I've noticed that a lot of players don't pick the 788 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 7: right players to play with that fits the full team. Now, 789 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 7: that may fit them, and you think about it, pick 790 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 7: the roll situation with Dame Lillard and Giannis seems like 791 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 7: it's a no brainer, right, That doesn't mean it fits 792 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 7: the full team and the identity of your team. So 793 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 7: I think that's the part of it for me as well. 794 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 8: Well. 795 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: You gotta have GM who can say, hey, I feel 796 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 3: you in that. Yeah, But what I'm thinking, is this 797 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 3: grace better because he does X, Y and Z. He 798 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 3: doesn't need the ball quite as much as Dame. You 799 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 3: need the ball a lot. This could work better over here, 800 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 3: or actually, I know this seems like he's a better player. 801 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 3: We believe he's getting injury prone. He's a little older, 802 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 3: less perry over these two younger guys. You gotta have 803 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 3: great GM and that's also comes with trust, right, yes, 804 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 3: trust and hey, we got what's best for you in 805 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 3: this organization, and trust that we're building it the right 806 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: way and we can duplicate what we did a half 807 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 3: full of years ago and win the championship again. 808 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 4: But to me, I've said it before. 809 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: As great as Gianna says and is disappointing as the 810 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 3: Eastern Conference has been for years now, I'm blown away 811 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 3: that him leading a team, you can't do it alone, 812 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: but him leading a team with some other guys, he's 813 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 3: had players that he hasn't had a deep Eastern Conference 814 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 3: playoff run where I'm not saying he gets to the 815 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: finals every year, yeah, but say it's a six year 816 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 3: span carry where he went to a couple of finals 817 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 3: one to one and went to two other Eastern Conference finals. 818 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 3: You know kind of how the Celtics had it for 819 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 3: some years before they finally broke through. They went to 820 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 3: a finals loss to the Warriors, came back and won, 821 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 3: but they had gone to the Eastern Conference for a 822 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 3: few years. Yeah, I'm shocked that he's the most dominant 823 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 3: player in that conference. Yeah, by far, MVP candidate yearly 824 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 3: and is out the first round regularly, maybe the second round, 825 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: and we're just all kind of like, yeah, I mean 826 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 3: that's normal. 827 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 7: Well, he's been bailed out because Boston's been a powerhouse 828 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 7: force in that span with him pretty much, with the 829 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 7: two stars that you just talked about, right, Jason Tatum 830 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 7: and Jaylen Brown. Right, So I think the deflection of 831 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 7: them two kind of failing even though they had long 832 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 7: runs and not getting it done. I think that en 833 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 7: OF's a little blanket for him. I think he can 834 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 7: go out and the one that he won was so 835 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 7: glorious and such and such a big one that I 836 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 7: think it kind of gets swept under the rug.