1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Make sure you're having fun and then you're taking rest. 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: So you're learning a lot from the things you're doing, 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: even if you're not getting a results at first. You 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: got to stay consistent and over time you're going to 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: get better from all the risk. 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: You're taking, all the things you've learned. 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: And so I think stay consistent, having fun and doing 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: the right things outside of wrestling, like having the right thoughts, 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: sleeping good, eating good, hanging out with the right people. 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: This is the Reform Sports Project, a podcast about restoring 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 3: healthy balance and perspective in all areas of sports through 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: education and advocacy. Hi, this is nickmo moncor from the 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 3: Reform Sports Podcast. Today, I'm speaking with Joseph Seally, one 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: of the top high school wrestlers in the country. A 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two U seventeen world champion, Joe is currently 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: the number one ranked wrestler in the class of twenty 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 3: twenty four and as committed to Penn State University. Named 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: the Athlete of the Week by USA Wrestling back in April. 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 3: Joe and I discuss balancing wrestling, academics and a social life, 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: learning from the losses, and the importance of having fun 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 3: while competing. 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 4: Back at it. 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: Man, I'm really excited this young man who's coming on. 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: I've certainly known about him here in the state of 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: North Carolina back when he was, you know, just a 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: younger guy. 27 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 4: But now you know, I'm the national and even world scene. 28 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: I mean, the guys are world champion, recently committed to 29 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: the Penn State University, you know, the best program certainly 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: over the last you know, probably two decades in college wrestling, 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: but number one prospect in the class of twenty twenty four. 32 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 3: Joseph Seally, Joe, thanks so much for hopping on, man. 33 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. I'm grateful. 34 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I appreciate love following you in and as 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: your season, as you're getting ready to go into your 36 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 3: senior year. You know, you're now committed to Penn State. 37 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: You know, what are what are your expectations, you know 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: going into your senior year. 39 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't really have any expectations. 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to have fun with it, like since 41 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: it's my last year, just try to wrestle as much. 42 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: As possible and have fun and not put too much 43 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: pressure on myself. 44 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: You started wrestling, If I'm not mistaken, I think you 45 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: were like six seven eight years old, and it seemed like, 46 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: if I remember correctly, had a ton of success even 47 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: on the national scene at a very young age. Well, 48 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: what got you into the sport of wrestling? And like, 49 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: was it always like you were a fish in water? 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: Like it just felt like natural? Like what, what do 51 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: you think has made you have such success you know, 52 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 3: your entire career? 53 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I actually started when I was even younger. 54 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: I started around like four. I didn't start going to 55 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: tournaments so I was five. But I was actually really 56 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: bad when I started, and like I would cry all 57 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 2: the time. I wasn't really good at it, So I 58 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: guess that's why I didn't like it. But the more 59 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: I wrestled, the better I got. And then my dad 60 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: he was a really good coach for me, and it 61 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: helped me out a lot, improving because he was really 62 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: good with technique and the mindset and stuff. 63 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: So that helped me to get better at a young age. 64 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: Did you feel like you know right away when you 65 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: first saw you said you had struggles when you were young, 66 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: you had to work through that. But what was it 67 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: that kept you coming back and wanting to get on 68 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: the mat. Because wrestling's you know, especially at a young 69 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: age is not an easy sport man, as you know, 70 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: like you mentioned the mental grind and also the physical 71 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: like what inside you, you know, brought out like, hey, 72 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 3: I want to keep getting on that mat. 73 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: I think I was just having fun with my friends. 74 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: Like it was a place where I could expel all 75 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: my energy. So I wasn't getting in trouble at school 76 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, So it was fun. 77 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: I really like playing the games and stuff. 78 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: Like. 79 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: I wasn't as much into the wrestling, but it was 80 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: fun playing games and be with my friends. 81 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: So you have I mean, I'm friends with your dad 82 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: on social media, and I see it at a really 83 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: young age man, you've been really helping him, you know 84 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: with his job, Like you've been working with your hands 85 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: like labor, like doing construction. 86 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: How much do you enjoy doing that? Do you see? 87 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: Like when you're out there working and doing those things, 88 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: does that help you all in the wrestling room? 89 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it does. I mean even. 90 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: Yesterday I was helping them in like here in Florida, 91 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: it's so hot and you have to like drink so 92 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: much water, and if you're working outside, it's like hard. 93 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: But I think it's helped me to teach me about 94 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: hard work and discipline just from a young age. I 95 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: know wrestling does that too, but it's different, like when 96 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: you're like working a whole day compared to just practice 97 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: for two hours, because it's it's a little harder. 98 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: But it's nice to be able to spend time with 99 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: my dad and I. 100 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Get to learn some stuff that I can use later 101 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: on in life. So I think it's pretty good. 102 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: So is that a piece of like the accountability? I mean, 103 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: wrestling takes a ton of discipline. You have to watch 104 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: your way, you get to watch your diet, but juggling 105 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 3: it all, you know, and staying highly highly competitive and 106 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: also maintaining a social life, Like how do you find 107 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: the time and focus to do that? 108 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: Well? 109 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: I mean before I started going to SEM in Pennsylvania, 110 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: I really didn't have a social life. 111 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: So I was like, i'ld go to school. 112 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: And then I would go to high school practice, and 113 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: then I would go to club practice, or even in middle. 114 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: School, I'll go to middle school practice and then club practice. 115 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: But at SEM, it makes it a lot easier because 116 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: practice is there, and then all your friends are wrestlers too. 117 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: It's like they live there with you, so it's a 118 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: lot easier to have a social life. 119 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: But before that I didn't really have much. 120 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: I was just always think about wrestling and focusing on that, and. 121 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: School is a lot easier in public school. 122 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: So I had a lot of time to focus on 123 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 2: just wrestling, so it was pretty pretty easy. 124 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: Do you feel like having that social life has has 125 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: helped you become even better at wrestling? Like the fact 126 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: that you've been able to be more I guess well routed, 127 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: since I mean you're at people might not know what 128 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: SEM is Wyoming Seminary, which is one of the top 129 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: wrestling programs in the country at the high school high 130 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: school level, So do you feel like that social peace 131 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: has been intricate to you maintaining you know, your success 132 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: on the map. 133 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: I think a little bit, because school at SAM is 134 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: pretty hard since it's a private school. 135 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: And I think having that social life and being able 136 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: to hang out with my friends and stuff, it gives 137 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: me a break from the school because I love wrestling, 138 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: so it's not I don't really want to break from 139 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: it most of the time. Like I could wrestle like 140 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: every day for a couple hours. So I like wrestling, 141 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: so that's good. But it does give me a break 142 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: from school and stuff. So I think that does help 143 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: with my wrestling because I can be more focused when 144 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: I'm actually wrestling and not worried about school work and 145 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: stuff like that. 146 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: I often advocate for, you know, young kids especially to 147 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: have experiences, no different experiences, play different sports. But there 148 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: are situations where some kids really like and enjoy, you know, 149 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: playing their one sport, you know, whatever is, whether that 150 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: be wrestling or baseball, soccer, doesn't matter. They just they 151 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: can't get enough of it, you know, they take breaks 152 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 3: when they need to. But did you ever, you know, 153 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 3: try any other sports or was it like never anything 154 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: that you were really interested in. 155 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to play baseball and football. But what 156 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: got me out of it was one year at Super 157 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: thirty two. 158 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: I had been training in football, so I was only 159 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: wrestling like two days a week or something. 160 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: So I was always at football practice and I went 161 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: to Super thirty two and I cut all this. 162 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: Weight and then I went on too, and I was like, 163 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: I'm done with this. So I just wanted to wrestle 164 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: all the time because I was tired of losing. But 165 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: I think it's important to play other sports because I 166 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: think it helps you to your athleticism and your coordination and. 167 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: Stuff like that. Even now I try to do other. 168 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: Stuff, Like I've been playing soccer a little bit, not 169 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: like competitive, just like on my own and I'll go 170 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: play racquetball with my girlfriend's dad sometimes just to like 171 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: work on my athleticism and stuff. 172 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've seen you compete, you know, and you're very, 173 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: very athletic, so you attribute a lot of it. So 174 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: you do some cross training stuff that you think helps 175 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: you on the wrestling. 176 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: At Yeah, a little bit. 177 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: And I'm also naturally pretty flexible. My dad's pretty athletic 178 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: guy easterom track in high school. I think you broke 179 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: the state record for the mile, and he's really good 180 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: at swimming and stuff. And I think I got a 181 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: lot of head jeans, so I think that helped out. 182 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: You mentioned the mindset piece of it, and I never 183 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: wrestled day in my life, but I mean, I know 184 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: from my sons and just talking to other retss that 185 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: mindset plays a huge role. What are some experiences, I 186 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: guess specifically where you struggled and had some adversity, whether 187 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: that be a loss or whatever it is that you 188 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: can attribute, like man that time that this loss happened 189 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: or this happened or whatever in my life, it really 190 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: helped me lock I learned from it. 191 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: Are there any. 192 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: Specific instances that you can think of where adversity really 193 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: helps you grow throughout your career? 194 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 195 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: I think even this this year, all the times that 196 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: I lost, I think it was technical, but it was 197 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: also a lot of mental stuff too, Like every time 198 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: I lost, like I wasn't in the moment or I 199 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: was thinking about when it lose instead of having fun 200 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: and get. 201 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: Better because for me, that's that's when I wrestled. My 202 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: best is when I'm having fun and get better. 203 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: And sometimes you lose focus sometimes and you're thinking about 204 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: other things, and a loss will help you to refocus 205 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: on the right things. And so I took some losses 206 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 2: this year, and I think it's just going to help 207 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: me to become an even better wrestler technically and mentally. 208 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: So I think it. I think especially this last loss. 209 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: I was at World Team Trials when I was wrestling 210 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: with Hankle, I was really focused on when losing because 211 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: it's World Team Trials instead of having fun and just 212 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: getting better. Because I ended up losing anyways, So I 213 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: should just focus on having fun and trying my best, 214 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: and I think I think I would have wrestled better 215 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: if I did that. 216 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: That's interesting. 217 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: So so when you don't focus on the outcomes and 218 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: you just try to stay present, that's like a you know, 219 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: I hear some of the most the lead athletes talk 220 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: about that. How are ways in which that I guess 221 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: that you practice that? Like, you know, especially with X, 222 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: you know, maybe you don't have expected maybe you do. 223 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: Maybe you don't put that pressure on yourself, but certainly 224 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: you know, with your ranking and with you know where 225 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: you're committed, there are expectations out there that people may have. 226 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 4: How do you separate yourself? 227 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: Have there been any like do you get coached by 228 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: anybody a how to stay present? Because that is such 229 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 3: a such a valuable piece that I hear the most 230 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: the lead athletes say in any sport. Yeah. 231 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: I mean mostly it was from my dad, Like he 232 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: was the one who was teaching me and stuff at 233 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: a young age, Like He's telling me how to focus 234 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: on when I losing. And I think that really helped 235 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: me with my progress because I would go challenge myself 236 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: and wrestle people that were better than me, just so 237 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: I could improve. And also I've been watching Pen State. 238 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: That's one of the big reasons I went it is 239 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: because of the mindset. A lot of their guys talk 240 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 2: about having fun and that resonated with me a lot, 241 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: So I thought that would be good for me to 242 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: go there because that's what I try to think about. 243 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: And that's a big part of the reason I went there, 244 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: is because I think having fun and just focusing on 245 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: getting better instead of winning and losing, it'll help you 246 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: to reach any of your goals. 247 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: I think personally, that's what I think. 248 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: So what was the recruiting process, Like, I mean, I'm 249 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: sure I would imagine like every school in the country 250 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: would have been excited to have you commit to their program. 251 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: Like what was it about Penn State And did you 252 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: feel like a lot of pressure on when to commit 253 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: where to commit? Like what was that process? Like? 254 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a ton of calls the first day, 255 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: like so many. I was pretty much on the phone 256 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: the whole day. But I kind of always knew I 257 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: wanted to go to Penn State because I've been watching 258 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: them like for like a long time growing up. But 259 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: I still had some other schools in mine like North 260 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: Carolina schools and some of mywa schools because I'm in 261 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: private school and they like private school guys. So I 262 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: was just thinking about a little bit. But I think 263 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: I always knew I wanted to go to Penn State, 264 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: So it was pretty easy for me to decide. Like 265 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: I only went on one visit to Penn State and. 266 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: I already loved it. I liked all the people. 267 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: There, so that's it was pretty I didn't really feel 268 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 2: any pressure from it. 269 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: It was pretty easy for me and my dad. 270 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: It was just like, yeah, as long as it's good 271 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: for you. He wasn't too caught up in it. He 272 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: knew I would pick the right place, so it's pretty easy. 273 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,359 Speaker 3: It's pretty much well documented that, you know, coach Kle Sanderson, 274 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: who's I would put out there as you know, one 275 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: of the greatest coaches in any sport, especially over the 276 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: last fifteen twenty years. I mean, that's a complete dynasty 277 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: that continues. It seems to get better and better. But 278 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: it's kind of well documented that they keep like a 279 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 3: tight leash around like what they do and how they 280 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: go about their business. I was fortunate enough to interview 281 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: Bo Nickel and he talked a little bit about it 282 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: and what is it about that program in particular, because 283 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 3: it seems so much more it seems like the results 284 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: are a byproduct of their process. 285 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: But do you know anything about like what the process is? 286 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 4: Like I hear a lot about humility and all of 287 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: those things. 288 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: Is that from what your experience has been and maybe 289 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: talking to coach Cale and guys that wrestle there, how 290 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: important is it at Penn State to buy into their 291 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: process and kind of focus on that versus the end result. 292 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think their process works really good is because 293 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: they're not focused on like their results either. They're just 294 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: worried about the athletes. They'll do anything to make sure 295 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: the athletes. 296 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: Reach their goals. They keep a good relationship with the athletes, 297 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: and all they do is one of the best worries. 298 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: They're really pretty like humble, like they say, like if 299 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: you're at a tournament or saw and they'll be hiding 300 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: in like the top stand, like with the hat and 301 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: a hoodie on, you don't even know they're there. 302 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: And that's how they are. 303 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: They're just in it for the athletes, and I think 304 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: it's a good devide into their process because they're just 305 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: in it for the athletes. 306 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Pretty much. 307 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: When we come back, Joe and I discuss why what 308 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: you do outside of practice can make all the difference. 309 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: Before we go to break, I wanted to share another 310 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: update with you from our friends at Team Staff. 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Welcome back 334 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: where we left off, Joe and I were about to 335 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: talk about why pushing yourself outside of your comfort zone 336 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: helps me make you better in the long run. So 337 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: with you going into your senior year, you have I mean, 338 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: you're gonna have some some big, you know, national tournaments 339 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: coming up, And I mean is your end goal obviously 340 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: to go and be a national champion at Penn State? 341 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: But then what are your goals and aspirations even beyond that? 342 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: Do you want to continue on international scene and be 343 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: an Olympian one day? 344 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 345 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: My main goal since I've been young is to be 346 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: an Olympic champ, and I think Penn State is going 347 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: to help me to be because there's a lot of 348 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: there's a couple of Olympians in the room, a couple 349 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: of Olympic champs. There's three Olympic champs, actually four Olympic champs 350 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: in the room. So I think it's it's a good 351 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: place if you want to do good at the Olympics 352 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: and also want to be world champion and I you 353 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: said national champions. 354 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: So those are some of my goals. 355 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: How do you stay at eighteen years old focused on 356 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: the present when it seems you know, at a at 357 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: a young age man, it's hard to stay focused on 358 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: the present and not get lost and chasing these aspirations. 359 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean it is. 360 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: It's still hard for me sometimes, Like like I said, 361 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: at that loss side in World Team Trials, I was 362 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: on president in the moment. 363 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: You need those losses sometimes to refocus, and. 364 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: So it's helped me do that loss help me to refocus, 365 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: And it's it is hard, and I think it's going. 366 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: To be hard for like forever. 367 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: You just gotta I got to make sure I stay 368 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: focused and make sure I'm just focusing on myself instead 369 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: of what other people think. 370 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: How do you keep your body in preparation? Like do 371 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: you do a lot of weightlifting? 372 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: Like how much is your diet a component of your preparation, 373 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: and I guess walk us through a week of the 374 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: day in the life of Joe Sealer when it comes 375 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: to training and everything to do that goes around it. 376 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've never really listed anyways. 377 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: I've always just I do like, like when I was 378 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: in Carolina, I used to go to school hard knocks. 379 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: We did a little bit of weightlft him but it 380 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: wasn't anything heavy, like you get a bar bell and 381 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: do some some stuff, but it was pretty easy. 382 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: And I'm big on body weight. 383 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: Stuff, but I've always folk tried to focus on making 384 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: sure I'm moving well and I'm flexible and I can 385 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: just move well without pain or any restriction or anything 386 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: like that, instead of lifting a bunch of weights, because 387 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: I've always thought like people that lifted a bunch of 388 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: weights ended up getting injured, and I think, if you 389 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: do it right, you won't. 390 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: But I've just never done it. I think I try 391 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: to put all my effort into wrestling practice. 392 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: Like if I if I'm losing a match, I don't 393 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: ever want to say it's because he was stronger or 394 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: faster me. I want to be like, it's because he 395 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: did something better than me wrestling wise, I think you 396 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: can fix any loss just with wrestling or your mind. 397 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: But like a day in the life typically would just 398 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: be like I do. 399 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: I do try to eat pretty healthy, and I drink 400 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: a lot of water, and I try to get my 401 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: sleep right too, like I try to be like wake 402 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: up at the same time, go to sleep at the 403 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: same time every day, and also try to try to 404 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: get some sunlight every day and get barefoot on the 405 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: ground because I heard that's pretty good for you. 406 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: And I also try to eat healthy. But I really 407 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: I'll just go. 408 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: To wrestling practice about once a day, but I'll do 409 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: I'll be there like super early, like thirty minutes to 410 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: an hour early, and then I'll stay for like thirty 411 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: minutes too. I'm always like doing something else like extra, 412 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: So I think that helps me out a lot. 413 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: That is something you know, we talk about a lot. 414 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: It's like it's not about what you do and anything 415 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: in life, really, but there's so much more. Seems like 416 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: the most successful people at anything do more before and after. 417 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 3: It's almost like the minimum if you go to practice 418 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: and just do your training or whatever at practice. It's like, 419 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 3: how important is it to separate yourself from the competitors 420 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: by doing more before practicing after like on your own time. 421 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's not even in practice either, like 422 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: like it is it is practice, doing extra practice. 423 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: But even like outside of the practice room. 424 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: I watch a lot of wrestling too, Like I've watched 425 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: so much wrestling, Like I started watching wrestling, and like 426 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: one of my favorite things to do is just to 427 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: study wrestling. And I think about it a lot too. 428 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: So I think that helps out. And like the sleep thing, 429 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: the diet thing, all that stuff helps you. Like i 430 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: might not be doing a bunch of workout today, but 431 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm growing in in other ways, you. 432 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: Know what I mean. 433 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: That's interesting because you know, as you're talking about watching 434 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: film and all those things, I'm thinking about, like you know, 435 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: the focus, you know, and how how locked in you are, 436 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: and you you know, when you're in a wrestling match, 437 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: or even if you're in baseball and you're going up 438 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: to the plate, that's that one on one battle, that 439 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: competition mode. You know, how do you prepare yourself from 440 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: a mindset standpoint, you know, to kind of lock in? 441 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: You know, you get ready to go, you're you're in 442 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: the hole or whatever you're coming up, you know on 443 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: Matt two for a match, it's like, how do you 444 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 3: make sure I'm putting your Like what are what walk 445 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: us through? 446 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 4: Like what you're. 447 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: Thinking as you're getting ready to go step on the mat. 448 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: Doesn't matter what match it is, is the preparation always 449 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: the same as the mindset always the same no matter 450 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: who the opponent is. 451 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, pretty pretty much. The mindset is usually the same. 452 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: There's there's I usually I have a routine that I think. 453 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: I think if you watch a bunch of great athletes, 454 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 2: they all have a. 455 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: Routine that gets them in the zone. 456 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: I think you can get in the zone without a routine, 457 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: but I think it helps, like certain. 458 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: Movements and the things you're thinking. 459 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: I got these certain things I think about, like my technique, 460 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: like certain mistakes I make in other matches that I 461 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: try to tell myself before I wrestle, because I try 462 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: not to think too much, like when I'm wrestling, Like 463 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: I try to make sure it's like just a flow. 464 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: But I try not. 465 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: To like think too much about like anything really, Like 466 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: I just try to be as calm as possible and 467 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 2: like be present and just think about having fun. 468 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 4: When you say having fun, I've heard you say that 469 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: a lot. 470 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 3: And that's another thing we talk about a lot because 471 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 3: people may hear having fun and they visualize like kids 472 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: jumping around and laughing and goofing and all that stuff, 473 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 3: which is certainly a part of it. But what is 474 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 3: having fun to Joe seely when you're talking about all 475 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 3: these things and being a competitor. 476 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for me having fun. 477 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: I think I love wrestling, but sometimes I can get 478 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: stuck in trying to be perfect and every little thing 479 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: will give me frustrated, and that's what I'm not having fun. 480 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: And like when I'm worried about the winning and the losing, 481 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: and I think just having fun, taking the risks and 482 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: then like just wrestling and then you learn later like 483 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about everything being perfect in 484 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: the moment. And I think just having fun and being 485 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: present helps a lot to not think about winning and losing, 486 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: because that's that's when I think the results are going 487 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: to stop. Like I've always been a pretty dominant wrestler, 488 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: and I think it's because I wasn't worried. 489 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: About winning and losing, Like I didn't try to get. 490 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: A win with just like one point. And I think 491 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: it's helped me to learn a lot because I take 492 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: a lot of risks, take a lot of shots, and. 493 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: I think this helped me to keep learning and keep 494 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: growing and keep. 495 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: Evolving because I feel like evolution in your game is 496 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: what really helps you to step. 497 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: Up to the next level each time. 498 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: I love that, like it sounds to me and you 499 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong. But you talk about the 500 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 3: relationship with your dad, did you always have because I 501 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: often hear where kids will say, like they're afraid to 502 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 3: make a mistake. You know, they're afraid to fail because 503 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: they may have extrinsic pressure from either a coach or 504 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: a parent who's like on their back or what did 505 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: your dad or your coaches always kind of give you 506 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 3: the freedom to fail, Like you mentioned taking risk. I 507 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 3: think that's huge, right, How do you grow in anything 508 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: in life without putting yourself out there? So, did you 509 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 3: always have the freedom to fail, Like, hey, Joe, go 510 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: out there, let it rip. Don't be afraid to struggle, 511 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: or don't be afraid to make a mistake. We'll learn 512 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: from it. Is that something that was always taught to you, 513 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 3: maybe by your dad or someone else. 514 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially my dad. 515 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: He was always like he would have ever get mad 516 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: at me as long as I charged my best and 517 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: then we work on the technical stuff later. As long 518 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: as I was given my best effort, he was okay 519 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: with it, like and. 520 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: He would actually he didn't tell me this at the time, 521 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: but he would. 522 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: Actually try to take me to places so I could lose, 523 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: so I could learn and. 524 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: Try my best. 525 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: And I think that that really helped me to like 526 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: some Like I would go to these tournaments in elementary 527 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: school and I'll wrestle a couple of different divisions, like 528 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: two age groups and two different weight. 529 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: Classes, and sometimes. 530 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 2: I would lose because I was a younger guy and 531 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: I was a smaller guy. But I think that really 532 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: helped me to grow at a faster rate and even 533 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: practice too. He would always make me practice like the 534 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: next level. Look like if I was in elementary school, 535 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: I was middle school. 536 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: If I was in middle school, I was. 537 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: Probably some in high school and it's a little bit 538 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: harder to practice like with college guys, but I tried to. 539 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: As much as possible. 540 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: But I think that helps you to grow, and you're 541 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 2: wrestling people that can be you start to evolve, you 542 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 2: start to adapt, and I think that's how you get 543 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: a lot better when you're younger. 544 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: So Joe, as you're as you're you know, in your 545 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 3: senior year, you're getting ready to let it rip and 546 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 3: have a lot of fun and obviously showcase your skills 547 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: before going to the Big ten and the best program 548 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: in the country in ten state. 549 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 4: You know, a lot of student. 550 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 3: Athletes, a lot of kids, a lot of sports parents 551 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: and folks will listen to this, and you know, these 552 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: kids may be like, man, I want to be like 553 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: Joe Seeley, I want to I want to be at 554 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: that level. 555 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 4: You know. 556 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: Take a couple of minutes, and I would love to 557 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: hear what is some advice that you'd give to these 558 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: younger wrestlers, these kids in middle school and high school 559 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: who who want to reach their you know, want. 560 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 4: To reach your level, or want to be the best 561 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 4: they can. 562 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: What's the best way for them to put themselves in 563 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: a position to to maybe reach their potential or have 564 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: an opportunity to to wrestle at the next level in 565 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: the college level. 566 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. So obviously, the first thing, like I've been. 567 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 2: Saying the whole time, make sure you're having fun and 568 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: then you're taking rests, so you're learning a lot from 569 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: the things you're doing, even if even if you're not 570 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: getting results at first, you got to stay consistent and 571 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: over time you're going to get better from all the 572 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: risk you're taking, all the things you've learned. And so 573 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: I think stay consistent having fun and doing the right 574 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 2: things outside of wrestling, like having the right thoughts, sleeping good, 575 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: eating good, hanging. 576 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: Out with the right people. 577 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: But make sure having fun I think is the most 578 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: important if you if you're trying to get the best. 579 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I want to touch on one of 580 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: the thing because I think it's abot you. You said, you 581 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: said hanging out with the right people. I couldn't agree more. 582 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 3: How do you make sure that you kind of you 583 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: know that you're not, you know, putting yourself in a 584 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: position where you know, temptation and such like, how do 585 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 3: you in particular, remain focused in being able to separate, Like, Hey, 586 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: I might not want to hang around this crowd because 587 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: it might not be good for me as a person. 588 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean that's kind of one. 589 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 2: Of the reasons I didn't really have a social until 590 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: I came to some because a lot of people and 591 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: I lived at they didn't have the same the same 592 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: goals as me and I, and if I was hanging 593 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: around them too much, they would try to bring me 594 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: down with them. And so I was really by myself 595 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: a lot because I had these goals and I wanted 596 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: to make good grades. I wanted to be a good wrestler. 597 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: I wanted to go to sleep early and stuff like that. 598 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: But at SAM, I have a bunch of good people 599 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: around me that I had the same goals as that 600 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: I do, and they want to be just as good 601 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: as I am. So it really helps being around a 602 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 2: good program like that, and my coaches and my teammates. 603 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: Joe Seely, I freaking love it man. Where can people 604 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: follow you? You know, they want to follow your journey, 605 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 3: see what's going on? What social media accounts? Where can 606 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: they do that? 607 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 608 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: I really just use Instagram and it's Joe Seely dot 609 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 2: j J I T. 610 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 4: I love it man. Well, good luck this year. 611 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 3: You're going to be crushing and I'm sure I can't 612 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: wait to see and follow your career, you know obviously 613 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: this year and as you move along to Pence that 614 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: I wish you nothing but continue success. 615 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 4: Man, stay healthy and keep doing what you're doing. 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