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Speaker 1: national security as well. So um, it's a combination of both.

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Speaker 1: And so this is an existential challenge to American society.

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Speaker 1: We actually had the FBI Director Christopher Ray talking about

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Speaker 1: this exact issue ultimately is going to have a real

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Speaker 1: impact on American jobs, American businesses, and American consumers. So

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Speaker 1: is that, in fact, Gordon, your read too that that

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Speaker 1: this is going to have down the line impacts that

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Speaker 1: will be helpful? Well, I think it has to be

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Speaker 1: helpful because we can't really be any worse than we

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Speaker 1: are at this particular time. Um. And I actually think

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Speaker 1: because we I think the Chinese are going to be

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Speaker 1: low to retaliate if they believe that President Trump is political.

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Speaker 1: Will you know, they have been um successful at a

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Speaker 1: trade war or whatever you want to call it for

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Speaker 1: a very long time because Americans have tried to integrate

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Speaker 1: China into the international system, not imposed costs, try to

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Speaker 1: be accommodating. Um. But um, you know, if the President

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Speaker 1: of the United States is willing to use all the

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Speaker 1: elements of American power, the Chinese are going to realize

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Speaker 1: that they can no longer continue to do what they've done,

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Speaker 1: I mean increasingly predatory trade practices, closing off the Chinese

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Speaker 1: market to American companies, stealing US intellectual property. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's there to like with about this? Is there a way,

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Speaker 1: is there a future in which you see Gordon a

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Speaker 1: China that is no longer in the grips of authoritarianism?

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Speaker 1: Is this also going to have a long term political

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Speaker 1: effect if the United States, as you say, uses all

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Speaker 1: the tools it's this at its disposal and sees this

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Speaker 1: through well. First of all, Buck, China is not in

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Speaker 1: the grips of authoritarianism. It's now in the grips of totalitarianism.

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Speaker 1: Siejun Paying, the current Chinese ruler, has taken China back

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Speaker 1: to more control. Um. His belief is that he should

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Speaker 1: have absolute control over the party at the Communist Party,

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Speaker 1: and the Communist Party should have absolute control over society.

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Speaker 1: And he's been very effective in both of those goals.

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Speaker 1: So this is a very different China than it was

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Speaker 1: five ten years ago. UM. And yes, Um, that system

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Speaker 1: is fragile. Um. We know that there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people in China who don't like what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Siejun Paying has been destabilizing the Communist Party's relatively stable

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Speaker 1: institutionalized system that we've seen over the last five ten years.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of things could go very wrong, especially

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Speaker 1: if Trump decides that he is not going to take

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Speaker 1: it anymore and I think that probably our president is

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Speaker 1: getting there. May not be there yet, Buck, but um,

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Speaker 1: you can see with the way we've defined China as

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Speaker 1: a threat in the national security strategy and in the

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Speaker 1: national defense strategy, and with what he's been doing on

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Speaker 1: tariffs and trade, it's very much a different relationship, and

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Speaker 1: I think Beijing has got to be extremely alarmed at

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Speaker 1: these developments. Gordon Chang is the author of the Coming

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Speaker 1: Collapse of China. Also follow him on Twitter as well. Gordon,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for for being with us here

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Speaker 1: in the show. We always appreciate it. Thank you. Buck.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, we're gonna roll into a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be back with a whole lot more, including

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Speaker 1: some updates on on the Vegas shooter coming later on

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Speaker 1: in the show. On the Vegas shooting from some time ago.

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Speaker 1: You're you're gonna want to hear that we've got some

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Speaker 1: new information to share. We'll be right back. Wait, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: I've actually got something else breaking news here. Oh my,

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Speaker 1: oh my Bolton to replace Nick Master as National Security Advisor.

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Speaker 1: Another exit from the White House happening live as we

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Speaker 1: are on air. Oh my, I Bolton to replace McMaster,

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Speaker 1: the mustache is replacing Mr Clean. That's right, that's my

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Speaker 1: national security analysis. All right, we got more. We'll be

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Speaker 1: right back. So McMaster is out and Ambassador Bolton is

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Speaker 1: in as the National Security Advisor. That is the breaking

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Speaker 1: news I have for you here on the show. Um.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that McMaster always had a good reputation.

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Speaker 1: But there are a few things. One is, he was

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Speaker 1: one of these guys who was I'm pretty sure he

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Speaker 1: was in the don't say radical Islamic terror camp, which

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Speaker 1: I just disagree with and always have and always will.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's already. That's strike one from from my perspective. Um,

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Speaker 1: But he was a well respected and smart guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna there's nothing nothing but um from people that

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Speaker 1: I know who worked with them, And this isn't like

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Speaker 1: I've I've heard from fellow journalists. I'm talking about people

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Speaker 1: that either worked on the Mill or Intel side who

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Speaker 1: knew new McMaster. They said he was a sharp guy,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure he did a good job for the president,

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Speaker 1: and you know it's not. But we're seeing the realignment

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Speaker 1: based on on policy and vision. So you know, McMaster

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Speaker 1: is not being asked to depart or is not departing

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Speaker 1: of his own volition. I'm not sure how the the

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Speaker 1: change happened. I don't know if there was a an

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Speaker 1: actual a request for resignation. We'll see. I just know

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Speaker 1: this has literally been breaking while we're on air here.

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Speaker 1: But NC Master was was a good man and I

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Speaker 1: think served as well as he could and I think

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Speaker 1: probably did a very competent job as a national Grey advisor.

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Speaker 1: But Bolton is gonna be very much aligned with Trump

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Speaker 1: on issues like North Korea, on the Iran deal, which

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a whole that's a whole new ball

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Speaker 1: game for Iran. You want to talk about disrupting the

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Speaker 1: status quo, um, Bolton is not going to take the

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Speaker 1: nonsense on on Iran. And he has a mustache that

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Speaker 1: really is it should be able to be trademarked. His

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Speaker 1: mustache is awesome. I heard somebody say that Trump said

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Speaker 1: that he wanted to be shaved once. I remember that

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Speaker 1: was like a rumor out there. I completely disagree. The

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Speaker 1: Bolton stash is a great thing. It's up there with

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Speaker 1: the bernankey beard, which was also I mean the thing

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Speaker 1: about Bernanky without the beard, it's like Samson without the hair.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't work, It doesn't make sense. I think

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Speaker 1: Bolton will do a good job and this is gonna

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Speaker 1: have in terms of what this means, why why should

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Speaker 1: we all care Iran deal that's on the table now

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Speaker 1: in a way that it wouldn't have been with McMaster

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Speaker 1: in uh in the role of national security advisor, or

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Speaker 1: at least now you have a national security advisor who's

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Speaker 1: gonna be working with the president tighten, tighten the screws

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Speaker 1: on Iran and also on North Korea. Bolton knows a

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Speaker 1: North Korea shoe backwards and forwards. One more note, I'll say,

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Speaker 1: on the good side of things for Bolton, there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of national security analysts who go on TV

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Speaker 1: who honestly aren't very smart. I'm not gonna name names,

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Speaker 1: because that would be mean. You want me to name names.

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Speaker 1: I'll name names. I'll name him. No, No, I won't,

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Speaker 1: I won't name him. Uh. But there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of nashcurity advisors, I mean the national security analysts noted,

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Speaker 1: a lot of national security advisors. A lot of these

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Speaker 1: analysts go on TV and I'm like, well, the person

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Speaker 1: may have spent a long time working for the government,

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Speaker 1: and their service may have been honorable, but they don't

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Speaker 1: have very much to add to the conversation right now.

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Speaker 1: A Bolton is not is not in that category. He's

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Speaker 1: a very smart guy. Um, I know who the phone are.

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Speaker 1: Bolton is not a phony. I think it's really interesting

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Speaker 1: that CNN and the announcement refer it says Fox News

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Speaker 1: analysts becoming national Security advisor. It's like or former US

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Speaker 1: ambassador to the United Nations. It's like a guy who's

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Speaker 1: been in the government game for decades or or that.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can take this one or two ways here,

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Speaker 1: you know, would be like saying man with prominent white

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Speaker 1: mustache becomes national security advisor or the former United States

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Speaker 1: ambassador at the United Nations. You know, career lawyer and

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Speaker 1: diplomat who served in a bunch of Republican administrations. You

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Speaker 1: take it either way. CNN take it either way. So

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Speaker 1: there we have it. And also this is just a

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Speaker 1: little aside, but I think this is really meaningful. In

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Speaker 1: the early days of my career, there was a show

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Speaker 1: that I used to do with Fox called Red Eye.

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Speaker 1: Many of you are probably familiar with it. I really

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Speaker 1: I it was a joy to do that show. It

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Speaker 1: was a really funny good show with a great energy

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Speaker 1: and it. Uh, I learned a lot. I'm doing it

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Speaker 1: early on in my career allowed me to have a

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Speaker 1: little fun. Initially, they all wanted me to be very

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Speaker 1: sort of serious journalist when I got into this game,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I've I've got other speeds, folks.

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Speaker 1: I mean you all know that, but I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: early on, and Red Eye was a place where we

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Speaker 1: all got to. There was the there were jokes made

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Speaker 1: that kind of continued on. You know, people learned that

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Speaker 1: the name of my vehicle in college was in fact

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Speaker 1: the Shagging Wagon. For example, that was on Red Eye. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's because it was a wood paneled station wagon that

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Speaker 1: was not something that you would call a babe mobile. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It was great though. Whenever somebody wanted to move their furniture,

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Speaker 1: I was the coolest guy on campus because that thing

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Speaker 1: had that thing had a caboose, had a caboose on it.

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Speaker 1: The big it looked it's kind of like a wagon.

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Speaker 1: The here it was actually a Roadmaster. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you familiar Roadmaster, but that was that was my whip.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if there was if there was any

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Speaker 1: rain and you tried to come to a quick stop,

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Speaker 1: you were very likely to hydro playing through the intersection.

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Speaker 1: But you know it was it was a good, good situation.

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Speaker 1: Um So the shagging wagon that came from Red Eye,

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Speaker 1: these people still tweet shagging wagon at me, like that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a meme that has lasted to this day.

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Speaker 1: Um But Bolton, why am I talking about this? Because Bolton,

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Speaker 1: as serious a career and as serious a man as

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Speaker 1: he is, he was actually a guy who would do

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Speaker 1: Red Eye. And I you know what, I always respected

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Speaker 1: that I was he was he was willing to uh

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Speaker 1: have a little fun and play along with everyone and

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, let the stash be the stash,

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Speaker 1: you know, let him do his thing. So I always

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Speaker 1: like that about him, and I wish him all the best.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's great. I wholeheartedly support

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Speaker 1: support this choice by President Trump. I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a wise decision. And he's got he's putting

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Speaker 1: pieces around him right now in terms of senior policy

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Speaker 1: personnel that are really going to um see things his way.

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Speaker 1: And I'm I'm thinking that this is gonna be good

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Speaker 1: because it's like a stormy sees ahead, not just with China,

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Speaker 1: Iran too, and North Korea. Whoa, I'm taking along. He's

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Speaker 1: back with you now, because when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: fight for truth, the fuck never stops. The American people

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Speaker 1: didn't elect Democrats to control the United States Congress. They

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Speaker 1: elected Republicans. I don't think we told the voters when

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Speaker 1: we were running for the job, and they gave us

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Speaker 1: the privilege to come here and serve that we were

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Speaker 1: going to continue to fund planned parents who We're gonna

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Speaker 1: restrict Second Amendment liberties. Let some bureaucrats take away your

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Speaker 1: Second Amendment rights, not a court of law. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they said we were gonna fund this Gateway Earmark

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Speaker 1: boondoggle project and not fund the border wall. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the one thing we don't have fund is the one

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Speaker 1: issue we all campaigned on, a border security wall, and

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Speaker 1: that is not in the legislation. So it can't get

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Speaker 1: any worse than this bill. I like Representative Jim Jordan,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I like him, guy. Guy, rolls up

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Speaker 1: the shirt sleeves and get it done. Welcome to our

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Speaker 1: two of the Buck Sexton Show. By the way, that

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Speaker 1: was that was Jim. That was JJ right there, dropping

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Speaker 1: some truth bombs because this omnibus bill which they passed

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Speaker 1: in the night, you know, and and they it's two thousand,

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty two pages by the time the

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Speaker 1: bill was passed to the time that it will go well,

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Speaker 1: assuming it makes through the Senate what we run out

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Speaker 1: of money tactic. We don't really want out of money,

644
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Speaker 1: but the government is no longer funded as of what Saturday, right, Yeah,

645
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: so no one read this thing. It's literally not possible

646
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Speaker 1: for the members of Congress who voted on it to

647
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: read it. But everyone just looks at the top line

648
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Speaker 1: numbers and if they get the little thing that they want,

649
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: they're happy. This is not the way it's supposed to run, folks.

650
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Speaker 1: This is not the way this is supposed to happen.

651
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: And I like talking about all the good things. I'm

652
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Speaker 1: willing to take the heat for Trump's for Trump's policies

653
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: on China and North Korea, and the the breaking with

654
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Speaker 1: consensus and the shattering of the echo chamber. I'm all

655
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 1: for it, but there also has to be some consistency

656
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Speaker 1: here for spending for the wall, for all of the

657
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Speaker 1: other stuff that we were promised. As I said, I'm

658
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Speaker 1: in favor of the Trump at Jenna. Do I find

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Speaker 1: Trump to be highly entertaining and in many ways just

660
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: a force of nature. Absolutely, But first and foremost, I

661
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: want what he said he would accomplish during his campaign.

662
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Speaker 1: I am all in favor of it, and I wanted

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Speaker 1: to happen. And I know many of you listening, most

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Speaker 1: of you listening due too. I cannot sit here in

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Speaker 1: good conscience and say to myself, yeah, this is this

666
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Speaker 1: is what this is what we sign up for. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Mick mulvaney, who's a sharp guy. By the way, mcmulvedy's

668
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Speaker 1: smart dude, but you know he he likes it. But

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Speaker 1: what what choice does he really have trying to get

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Speaker 1: the president's priorities funded? And this omnibus bill does that.

671
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Speaker 1: It funds national defenses, you're Sarah mentioned, It give the

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Speaker 1: troops the increase that we were trying to get them

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Speaker 1: in their in their compensation. It funds opioids, it fund

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Speaker 1: school safety. It's a tremendous increase in workforce development, something

675
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Speaker 1: that doesn't get a lot of attention, but this administration

676
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Speaker 1: has been pushing since we got here. It actually starts

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Speaker 1: taking a look at funding infrastructure um and it also

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Speaker 1: does a lot of what we wanted, not everything we wanted,

679
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Speaker 1: but a lot of what we wanted on immigration. I

680
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: think that's a little I think he's being a bit

681
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Speaker 1: of a salesman there, be honest with you, you know,

682
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Speaker 1: and it doesn't doesn't really do what they wanted immigration. Okay,

683
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Speaker 1: let's let's get into some of these numbers here. So

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Speaker 1: we're we're gonna look at this from their perspective of

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Speaker 1: two important areas or two Maine, two main regions. One

686
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Speaker 1: you have on the one side, you have president's priorities. Right.

687
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Speaker 1: I've actually got a little pad in front of me

688
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Speaker 1: so I can make sure I don't going to one

689
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Speaker 1: of my digressions where I forget what I was talking

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Speaker 1: about and all of a sudden we're having a discussion

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Speaker 1: about hop light tactics circa. You know. Um, but here

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Speaker 1: we go. Uh, you've got priorities the president, and then

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Speaker 1: you've also got the debt, which we'll talk about two

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Speaker 1: debt and spending. Okay, so presidential priorities. Yes, it gives

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Speaker 1: more funding for the troops, and I can be persuaded

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Speaker 1: that that is a good idea, although keep in mind

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Speaker 1: that the decrease in military funding was primarily a function

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Speaker 1: of the sequester, which was a decrease in the increase

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Speaker 1: in the rate of federal government spending that Republicans agreed

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Speaker 1: to some years ago after Democrats assumed they would not,

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Speaker 1: and then very rapidly thereafter. Republicans are like, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 1: that's way too much, way too much austerity in terms

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Speaker 1: of this. So we're just looking at priorities. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into the debt and spending side of a second.

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Speaker 1: I know this is this is it's like we're having

706
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Speaker 1: a wild and wild and crazy party right now. This

707
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Speaker 1: is this is like a Malibu beach party we're having

708
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Speaker 1: talking about the debt and the deficit. But it's important,

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Speaker 1: it's important stuff. So what do we have here? We

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Speaker 1: have thirty three miles of border fence in Texas, one

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Speaker 1: point five billion dollars for the wall. That is. To

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Speaker 1: call that a start is a little bit like me saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, I am going to buy a house, so

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Speaker 1: I am going to put three dollars in this piggy bank.

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Speaker 1: It is true that that is a start, but it's

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Speaker 1: tough for me to get all that excited about that.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair right, thirty three miles, got a

718
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Speaker 1: lot more miles to go, and we got a mid term.

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Speaker 1: Come it up. We do not have and endless uh

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Speaker 1: an endless array of options, especially if the mid terms

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Speaker 1: don't go our way to get this thing done. Show

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Speaker 1: you got thirty three miles in Texas one point five

723
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Speaker 1: seven billion for the wall. No one's read. This thing

724
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Speaker 1: still has to go through the Senate, and like Trump

725
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: could veto it, but I don't think he will because

726
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Speaker 1: all of his White House is saying very nice things

727
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Speaker 1: about it. We do. We have Paul Ryan talking, talking,

728
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Speaker 1: whispering sweet nothings about the omnibus bill. You know, Mr

729
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Speaker 1: like fiscal sanity. You know, he's not much of a fighter,

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Speaker 1: you know, Oh he's yeah, we got let's let's hear

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Speaker 1: Mr Ryan has to say, the Speaker of the House

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Speaker 1: about the wall, play it on one point six billion.

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Speaker 1: The one point six billion is the total? Is that wrong?

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Speaker 1: Because I only heard six d fifty million total six

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Speaker 1: for the entire but the voter also, you need you

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Speaker 1: need fences, you need cameras, you need electronic devices. You

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Speaker 1: need these, you need the air real devices to be

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Speaker 1: at the police and in the mountainous areas. You can't

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Speaker 1: build the wall over a mountain, so you need cameras

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Speaker 1: and you need drones up there. So it's a border

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Speaker 1: wall system that the Border Patrol tells us they need,

742
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Speaker 1: and so we fund their request based on what they

743
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Speaker 1: say they need to secure the border. And it's different

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Speaker 1: kinds of all based on different kinds of conditions on

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Speaker 1: the ground. And that's what we fund with a billion dollars.

746
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Speaker 1: It's a big border there, Paul, it's a big border.

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Speaker 1: Let's not let's not be silly. One point five seven

748
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Speaker 1: billion is not going to get it done at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's not saying the whole wall

750
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Speaker 1: is gonna be built, but this is this is a

751
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Speaker 1: drop in the bucket. So let's not pretend. It also

752
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything about sanctuary cities. So to say, I

753
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Speaker 1: guess they're just gonna fight that out in the courts exclusively.

754
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Speaker 1: But to say that that is um, you know, just

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Speaker 1: say that that's getting our immigration priorities is I think

756
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Speaker 1: a stretch. I think that's a stretch. And no one

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00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: has read this thing, which is also just fundamentally an

758
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Speaker 1: issue and in terms of the priorities, the President you know,

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Speaker 1: not a lot of enforcement dollars here for immigrations and

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Speaker 1: customs enforcement. Nothing really new on that. Look tough to

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Speaker 1: get excited about. I'll be honest with you, and I

762
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Speaker 1: know we're supposed to say no, like this is all

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Speaker 1: gonna be great. Maga, everything's gonna be amazing. You got

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Speaker 1: two or fifty six to one or sixty seven was

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Speaker 1: the vote in the House. Chuck Schumer likes it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, how does that make you feel about it,

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer. Let's see what he asked to say. Overall,

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Speaker 1: we Democrats are very happy with what we've been able

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Speaker 1: to accomplish on a number of very important priorities to

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Speaker 1: the middle class in America. Infrastructure, education, opioid treatment, mental health, childcare.

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Speaker 1: This spending agreement brings that era of austerity to an

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Speaker 1: unceremony send and represents one of the most significant investments

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Speaker 1: in the middle class in decades. If that doesn't put

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00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: you on edge, folks, I don't know what will. If

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make you think twice about this that you've

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Speaker 1: got Chuck Schumer who's basically talking about how amazing it is.

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Speaker 1: We gotta have a long talk the debt is twenty

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Speaker 1: one trillion dollars. I got involved in politics and media

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Speaker 1: at the height of the Tea Party, really right all right,

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00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: right right around that And when I when I first

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Speaker 1: started doing this, it was when the Tea Party had

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Speaker 1: just had that massive wave in the midterm election, and uh,

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Speaker 1: it was all about the debt, the depths in and spending,

784
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Speaker 1: and Obama was spending us into oblivion and he was

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00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars. We understood then

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Speaker 1: that this was a problem. Mathematically, it is a problem

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Speaker 1: one that will eventually choke out, uh, block out and

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Speaker 1: choke off a lot of I guess choke out if

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Speaker 1: I want to get really aggressive about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's that private sector spending one that is going to

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Speaker 1: mean the service on the debt is going to be

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Speaker 1: more than military spending within ten years on our current trajectory.

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Speaker 1: So paying back the interest on this debt is going

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Speaker 1: to be more than we are spending on the military

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Speaker 1: within a decade. It is too much. As I've been

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Speaker 1: saying to you, this does not become obvious until it

797
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: is too late. It is a a problem that will

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Speaker 1: require a mass of political will to tackle in advance

799
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Speaker 1: of the crisis, or we can just wait for the crisis.

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Speaker 1: What I see with this spending bill, this may be

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Speaker 1: unpopular some folks, but this is what I see is

802
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: just let's have a spending free for all, spending bonanza.

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Speaker 1: What are you? What are the Democrats want? What do

804
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: the Republicans want? Let's just get it. You know, this

805
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: is sending the kids into the toys. R us may

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Speaker 1: at rest in peace. Yeah, I know, it's sad, right,

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Speaker 1: It's like a part of my childhood's going away, uh,

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00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: sending him in and saying, you know, well, you all

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Speaker 1: get to don't worry about the credit card bill. You

810
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Speaker 1: all get to get whatever you want. Of course, everyone's

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Speaker 1: gonna be happy. What happens when that bill comes to.

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Speaker 1: What happens when the bill comes to, and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be on us. It's gonna be on on the generation below,

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Speaker 1: the below, the boomers, the generation below, the millennials, the

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Speaker 1: generations that are coming up that we haven't even named yet.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to pay back higher taxes, slower growth,

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Speaker 1: more all kinds of government restrictions and regulations in order

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Speaker 1: to try to deal with the economic dislocations that will

819
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Speaker 1: come from this. It's bad. It is bad, and I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, I see a willingness to speak the truth

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Speaker 1: and to be politically brave and to show leadership from

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Speaker 1: this administration on a number of it. Look, immigration is

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00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: a totally different discussion now because of Donald Trump. I'm

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00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: not forgetting how we got here. I respect that and

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Speaker 1: I know that. But he's gotta you know, you can't

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Speaker 1: get that excited just because you know the quarterback is

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Speaker 1: taking you fifty yards down the field. Right you gotta

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Speaker 1: put points on the board. It has to be more

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Speaker 1: than just the effort. And with immigration, this is not

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Speaker 1: putting points up on the board. And with spending, this

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Speaker 1: is I'm gonna really belabor the football analogy or this

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Speaker 1: is this is a fumble. This is not good. Umm.

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Speaker 1: I think Rand Paul, we can. Rand Paul has been

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Speaker 1: so I picture him right now in like a montage

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Speaker 1: in a track suit, you know, just just training and

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Speaker 1: getting all fired up for what will inevitably be a

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Speaker 1: lot of news hits and you know, maybe some filibustering

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00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: or you know whatever he's got up his sleeve, because

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00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: this is this is his sweet spot right now. And

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Speaker 1: the problem is he's right we can't keep doing this.

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Speaker 1: Why aren't we hearing more people say that. I understand,

842
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: there are a lot of issues where you gotta give

843
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: you gotta get the Trump administration leeway to do things differently,

844
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Speaker 1: do things their way. You know, the our goals are aligned.

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Speaker 1: I want success for them. I want success for all

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Speaker 1: of us. So I'm like, all right, let's see, let's

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Speaker 1: see if he can get it done. He's he's the

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Speaker 1: guy that had a ninety five percent chance of losing

849
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Speaker 1: the election according the New York Times and Election Day.

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Speaker 1: He's we gotta give him a wide berth to get

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Speaker 1: some things done. Spending is spending twenty one trillion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one trillion dollars. This is not. This is not

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Speaker 1: responsible for our government right now. It just isn't. It isn't,

854
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: And I know that's not people want to hear. It's

855
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: like saying that the party is out of beer. I

856
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: am the waha showing up, turning off the music, telling

857
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: everybody they have school tomorrow. But that's what's happening right now.

858
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: We cannot keep doing this. And just for understand this,

859
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: Schumer and all the rest of them, if we hit

860
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: a big correction, in the market, and there's an economic downturn,

861
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: and we see some rising unemployment, and you know, we

862
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: have a I'm not even talking about some big reset

863
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: what some people think is coming, but that's a whole

864
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: separate discussion, you know, or or or a jubilee even um.

865
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about just a real shift in the

866
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: economic wins. They're gonna Oh my gosh, they're gonna all

867
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: make it Trump's fault. It's all Trump's fault, all the spending.

868
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: It's so irresponsible. It's all look at what he's done,

869
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: all this military spending, everything else. So I don't think

870
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: that they're in this too. That's not how it's gonna

871
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: play out, all right, eight four four nine hunder two

872
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: eight two five. You want to call in, I've I

873
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: appreciate a lot of you have called it. I'm sorry

874
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: I have not gotten to your calls on the lines,

875
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: but we will try to get some if you're if

876
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: you're willing to be patiently, we'll try to get some

877
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: coming up here in a little bit. Oh wait, I'm sorry,

878
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: there's one more thing before we I know we're going

879
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: really late. John, pardon me for a second here, Why

880
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: are we funding planned parenthood. Why is the government funny plan? Parent?

881
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: If we have a Republican House, republican Senate, Republican president,

882
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: why I need I need an answer to that question, folks.

883
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: That's about a lot more than money. When do we

884
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: fight on that? We're gonna wait till after the mid terms.

885
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: Lives are at stake there, You notice, well as I do,

886
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: All right, now we'll hit a break. We'll be right back.

887
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: So I asked the team in here on the Omnibus sill.

888
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: I figured that there must be some entertaining Rand Paul

889
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: audio out there, because, as we know, this is where

890
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: this is where Rand steps in, This is where Rand

891
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: goes big. He puts away the surfboard, and just I

892
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: just always think he's like a surfer. I don't know why.

893
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: I know he's from Kentucky. Not a lot of waves there.

894
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, do you'd hanged in? He's very mellow, but

895
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: he writes he's been live tweeting as he read through

896
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: the two thousand, two hundred and thirty two page long

897
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: Omnibus bill. And here are some of the here are

898
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: some of the Randy, Randy and pardon me highlights. On

899
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: page two oh seven, he writes two thousand plus pages

900
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,479
Speaker 1: to go reading about the ever wastefull six billion dollar

901
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: National Science Foundation. He also put a photo of himself

902
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: with the printed out bill, which he said took over

903
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: two hours to print in his office. And I will

904
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: I will tell you it is quite large. If you

905
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: lifted this thing, you could wail on your packs and

906
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: get bulging biceps. Bro, do you even live? Bro? I mean,

907
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: it's it's serious. It's a big it's a big bill.

908
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: You will be amazed when you see how how many

909
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: pages it is and when was the last time you

910
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: had a two thousand page But I've actually never read

911
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: a two thousand page books, So you could tell me

912
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: if you've ever done that. I think maybe I've gotten

913
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: up into like the eight hundreds or nine hundreds once

914
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: or twice. I don't think of ever. I don't think

915
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: I've ever broken four digits with a book. Um, I

916
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, true true confessions by Bucks accident

917
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: on air so uh Page to forty oh, here's a

918
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: here's a bright spot. Good news for states rights. No

919
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: funds will be spent to prevent any states medical marijuana initiatives.

920
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: Page to seventy eight nine hundred and sixty one million

921
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: dollars to destroy our chemical weapons. Who wasn't exactly who

922
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: convinced our government to pay billions to develop weapons we

923
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: now find deplorable. He's got more. Here are some highlights.

924
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: This is from Senator Paul's account Twitter. He's he's live

925
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 1: tweeting his reading of the two thousand, two two page bill.

926
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: One million dollars for the Cultural Antiquities Task Force. I

927
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: will be honest with you, I did not I was

928
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: not aware of that that we had that six point

929
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: to five million for the Ambassadors Fund for Cultural Preservation,

930
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars for countering foreign state propaganda, twelve million

931
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: dollars for countering disinformation and pressure. What does that even mean?

932
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: Five million dollars for Vietnam Education Foundation grants, fifteen million

933
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: dollars for U s a i D. Promoting international higher

934
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: education between universities. Wow. Fifty one million dollars to promote

935
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: international family planning? Why why are we paying for other

936
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: places family planning? This is your tax dollars. I mean

937
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: I could go, I could go all day with this rand.

938
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: Paul literally is going all day with this folks, My friends,

939
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: fellow conservatives patriots, Americans, do we care about this? Yes

940
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: or no? He's back with you now, because when it

941
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: comes to the fight for the funk never stops. The

942
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: Facebook is a is a wonderful American company, but it's

943
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: no longer accompanies to it. It's a country, and they

944
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: have enormous power. They knew enormous good. But we need

945
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: to talk about whether Facebook has been a good steward

946
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: of of our data. We need to talk about how

947
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: we can preserve the good, good aspects of Facebook while

948
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: stopping the corrosive effects. Their platform was weaponized by a

949
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: foreign adversary, and there's still many questions about whether that

950
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: adversary worked with the Trump campaign and whether that whether

951
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: the Trump campaign used Facebook to amplify stolen, hacked information

952
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: that the Russians were using in their campaign. Facebook at

953
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: the center of the news this week for a bunch

954
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: of different reasons. For Democrats, it's just Facebook is no

955
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: longer among their favorite companies because they blame Facebook for

956
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: Hillary's loss at some level, and so there's this surge

957
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: of we need to do something about facebooks. It's been weaponized.

958
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: It's an information weaponization platform that's just doing terrible things

959
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: to us all over the place, and yeah, what is

960
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: that Representative Swallwell, Eric Swalwell, I actually don't even know

961
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: who that Yeah, that's Representatives swallow must be Okay, I

962
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: don't even know what that guy is, to be honest

963
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: with you, fot five of these folks run around a

964
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: lot of them. So uh And that was also I

965
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: was Senator Kennedy before that. Here's things going on right now.

966
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg has been making the rounds doing interviews, talking

967
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: to people, and he is showing some showing some I

968
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: don't know remorse is the right word, but he's definitely saying,

969
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, okay, I know, we're we're we're sorry for

970
00:56:55,160 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: what's what's happened here. Um, this was a major breach

971
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 1: of trust, and and I'm really sorry that this happened. Um.

972
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: You know, we have a basic responsibility to protect people's

973
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: data and if we can't do that, then then we

974
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: don't deserve to have the opportunity to serve people. So

975
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: our responsibility now is to make sure that this doesn't

976
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: happen again. And there are a few basic things that

977
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: I think we need to do to ensure that. One

978
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: is making sure that developers like Alexander Cogan, who got

979
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: access to a lot of information and then um improperly

980
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: used to just don't get access to as much information

981
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: going forward. I mean, Zuckerberg has all the charm of

982
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: a pungent burp, so I don't think his political future

983
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: is what some others do. Although then again, how some

984
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: people get really far without having much the way a charm. Um,

985
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: But Zuckerberg is not a guy that I think is

986
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: going to get the masses on his side. It's it's

987
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: also hard to It's it's hard to pull off the

988
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: everyman routine of a politician if you're wealthy. It's really hard.

989
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: If you're like seventy billion dollars wealthy, that's gonna be

990
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: a tough one. Min. I've struggled with bills too. It's difficult. Um.

991
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: But why he is taking this position is a is

992
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: a surprise to me because Facebook didn't really do anything wrong. Um.

993
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: Facebook could also very easy to say everyone needs to

994
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: calm down and stop acting like this is such a

995
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: big deal. Instead though they are, and this is from

996
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: the CEO on down saying oh no, well we'll address

997
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: this right away. Now. There are a couple of things here.

998
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: Maybe this is just the pr strategy. Maybe this is

999
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: just about not wanting to upset users and look bad,

1000
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: and the Silicon Valley companies spend a lot of time

1001
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: trying to convince everybody that they're just these forces for good. Um,

1002
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: So there's that, There's that aspect of it, but there

1003
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: might be something else at work here. I just want

1004
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: to just want to experiment this for a second, because

1005
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: there's some other stuff that Zuckerberg said like this. I

1006
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: actually I am not sure we shouldn't be regulated it. Um,

1007
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think in general technology is an increasing

1008
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: um increasingly important trend in in the world, and I

1009
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: actually think the question is more what is the right

1010
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: regulation rather than yes or no should it be regulated?

1011
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: Why would the CEO of one of the most profitable

1012
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: companies in the history of a planet. The capital efficiency

1013
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: of Facebook is is like a wonder of the modern age.

1014
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: How much money it makes on the money it spends.

1015
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: It's incredible. It is a like the biggest a T

1016
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: M machine to have ever been built. Why would the

1017
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: CEO be saying this regulations? Maybe it's because the ideologically

1018
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: is just inclined to accept state intervention in his enterprise.

1019
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: That's possible. That's possible. And right now he's just kind

1020
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: of saying this stuff because Facebook has gotten a bit

1021
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: of heat. People are, Oh, but but he's going to

1022
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: pass because it's all about Trump. And now now the

1023
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: Camera j Analytica is increasingly looking like it's not even

1024
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: a good psychological warfare operation. I mean, it's such nonsense.

1025
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: And I knew it was nonsense from the start. I've

1026
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: known people who have been like, Oh, we're gonna take this,

1027
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: and we're gonna anytime somebody tells you they've got an

1028
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: algorithm for you that's gonna answer some question that nobody

1029
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: else has been able to answer, you need to be

1030
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: very skeptical. All Right, it's not that easy. I'm just

1031
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: gonna have an algorithm's gonna tell you know everything you

1032
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: need to know. Nope, very difficult to do. Um. But

1033
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: there's another possibility here, which is that Facebook understands that

1034
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 1: government regulation, that big government and big business go hand

1035
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: in hand. This has been very true of banks and

1036
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: investment banking, a lot of the other financial sector activities

1037
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: out there. They're like, yeah, DoD Frank, it's very expensive,

1038
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: it's bad for us, but it also is anti competitive

1039
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: because regulatory costs, as we all know, are quite real.

1040
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: And if Facebook has to deal with all these regulations,

1041
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: and if that then involves you know, legal costs and

1042
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: just compliance costs for the for the staff and everyone else,

1043
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: it just means that the likelihood of their being competitor

1044
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: social media networks is lessened. There's nothing that Facebook does,

1045
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: it's all that that that's all that magical. It's just

1046
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: the best of what has been tried in this realm.

1047
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: Wasn't even the first, as you know, sorry friends, turn

1048
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: my space. Um, it wasn't the first one, but it

1049
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: was one that caught on the most. And it hasn't

1050
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: really evolved in amazing way since the initial first few

1051
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: years of it. I mean, it's you know, there's a

1052
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: lot of other places where you can do pretty similar stuff,

1053
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: but it is right now the dominant force. It is

1054
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: the eight pound guerrilla in the social media space. And

1055
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: so the mere invitation for government regulation to me seems

1056
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: to be indicative of, yeah, let's regulate it, and let's

1057
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: let's make it so that any other company that wants

1058
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: to do this is gonna have incredible compliance costs, have

1059
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: real liability under the FTC. For example, for any any

1060
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: misuse of data. Compliance with data misuse issues gonna go skyrocketed,

1061
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: And the more the government gets involved, the higher the

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Speaker 1: cost of business becomes. As you know, Facebook can handle

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Speaker 1: any cost of business. Really, I mean, realistically, could somebody

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Speaker 1: who wants to create something that's better than Facebook, which

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Speaker 1: right now we think, oh, that's not possible, but the

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Speaker 1: history of innovation tells us it's just a matter of

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Speaker 1: time and it is quite possible. I think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: reach a place where there's a political schism in the

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Speaker 1: social media world, meaning people are just realized that you

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Speaker 1: can't build a business around YouTube and Facebook, or you

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Speaker 1: can't be reliant on YouTube and Facebook for your business,

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Speaker 1: when in fact they can decide to shut you off

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Speaker 1: because they've changed their mind about firearms, that changed their

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Speaker 1: mind about servative speech, or any number of things. So

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be more of a push for this, and

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Speaker 1: everything seems like it's gonna last forever until it doesn't,

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Speaker 1: and nothing lasts forever. So that's what I have to

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Speaker 1: say about Facebook. And I've got some other news that

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Speaker 1: I meant to get to earlier. I'm gonna return to now.

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Speaker 1: On James Clapper, I almost said Jake Tapper, because it

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Speaker 1: rhymes with Clapper. That's a different dude on on Clapper,

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Speaker 1: the former d N I might be this is the

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Speaker 1: this is one of these stories I read, I go.

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Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't seem like a big deal. This

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Speaker 1: could be a very big deal. Actually, what am I

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01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,919
Speaker 1: talking about? Well, as though we're finding out who's gonna

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Speaker 1: get the final rows, you're gonna have to wait until

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Speaker 1: after the break. So James Clapper is very on me

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Speaker 1: with the press. Um. I don't know if he's now

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Speaker 1: officially a SCENA contributor, but he's on CNN all the time.

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Speaker 1: And I know that former CI director Brennan is an

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Speaker 1: NBC senior national security analyst. I think class Clapper. I

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Speaker 1: think Clappers on contract with CNN now very chummy with

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Speaker 1: and very anti Trump, very chummy with journalists, and has

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Speaker 1: a history of difficulty with the truth in public. Regarding

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Speaker 1: the public, Clapper is nonetheless very welcome over at CNN,

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Speaker 1: where they think that bureaucrats of long service equals genius

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Speaker 1: and on unimpeachable integrity, which is unfortunately not the case.

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Speaker 1: But something very interesting came up today about Clapper specifically,

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Speaker 1: and this is Katherine Herrod from Fox News reporting on it.

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Speaker 1: The allegation is that the Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper,

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Speaker 1: this is the person who oversees all of the intelligence

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Speaker 1: agencies and whose primary responsibility is the protection of gasified information.

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Speaker 1: They say the following that he quote provided inconsistent testimony

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Speaker 1: about contacts with the media, including CNN. Of course, he

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Speaker 1: is now a CNN contributor. And based on our reporting,

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Speaker 1: the line of questioning by the committee focused on that

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Speaker 1: Trump Tower briefing in January, which is when the president

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Speaker 1: was told for the first time about the unverified Trump dossier.

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Speaker 1: And as you remember, that briefing was leaked to the

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Speaker 1: media and that's really how the dossier story got into

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Speaker 1: the mainstream. The efforts of Fusion, GPS and the fall

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01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: of to do that really had not been successful. But

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Speaker 1: the leaking of the briefing at Trump Tower really accomplished that.

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Speaker 1: One thing that has been lost somewhat in all the

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Speaker 1: discussions over Russia collusion and all that is where did

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Speaker 1: the leaks come from? The leagues to the New York Times,

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01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: Washington Post and some others CNN, uh, and I mean

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Speaker 1: leak leaks like classified information and finding its way to reporters,

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Speaker 1: all in an effort to hurt the Trump administration, undermines

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Speaker 1: specific individuals and the Trump administration, most notably the president himself.

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Speaker 1: Where did all that come from? How many people have

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Speaker 1: been found as the source of those leagues? Zero so far,

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Speaker 1: But that may change. I don't believe that mid level

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Speaker 1: people at d O J or or you know, any

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Speaker 1: of the intel agencies are deciding to take it upon

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Speaker 1: themselves to wage one man or one woman warfare against

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration. The seniors do that. At the top level,

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Speaker 1: the executive suite, the people with a lot of access

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Speaker 1: who are already used to interacting with the media in

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01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: a way that the rank and files don't. The rank

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Speaker 1: and file risk their jobs for hanging out with the

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Speaker 1: media in some of these places. I mean, you cannot

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Speaker 1: do it. But the top folks, you know, they go

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Speaker 1: to fancy parties and they'll go to the correspondence dinner

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Speaker 1: and all that. How is it that we haven't found

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Speaker 1: any of them yet? Well, I think the answer to

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01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: that is that we haven't looked particularly hard. Well, that

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01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: might be changing. I know Attorney General Sessions, friend of

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Hunt, I know that he is looking into

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01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: this matter specifically because the crimes were committed, no question,

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01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: crimes were committed. Assuming that information was classified, and we

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01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: have every reason to believe it is, then that would

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01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 1: be illegal. But wouldn't it be interesting to see if

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Speaker 1: the former Director of National Intelligence may have may have,

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01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: I can't say did, but may have leaked information about

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01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: a dossier to get the whole thing started. Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry the briefing on the dossier specifically, like like told

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01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: the media that Trump had to be told about the dossier.

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01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: That is a form in itself of recular reporting. Right.

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: If you are the d n I and you are

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01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: making the choice of what goes into the president's folder,

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01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: and you include some crap, lousy dossier that you know

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01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: includes this stuff about the Golden showers and all that

1155
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: just garbage, but you make that decision, and then you

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01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: also you also decide to tell the press that the

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Speaker 1: decision was made to include that in the briefing. You've

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Speaker 1: created that news cycle, You've created that story wholesale. Right.

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Speaker 1: Not only are you telling the press something you shouldn't,

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Speaker 1: but you are the reason that that thing happened in

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Speaker 1: the first place. That you then chose to tell the

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Speaker 1: press about almost like what we've seen all along with

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Speaker 1: the dossier and the efforts to use it in the

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Speaker 1: files a court and everything else. Right the you know,

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Speaker 1: one source was used to support another source, which was

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Speaker 1: used to report the initial source which was used to

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Speaker 1: get it. I mean, it's just all running around in

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01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: a circle, and it's a pretty tight knit group that

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Speaker 1: we're really looking at for this stuff. And I just

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Speaker 1: think there's the very real possibility that we may at

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Speaker 1: some point have someone who was a senior Obama administration official,

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Speaker 1: very very senior, would have betrayed his or her oath

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01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: and violated the law in a fit of Trump arrangement syndrome.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. We're gonna we're gonna get somebody, and

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be some some rando that no one

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Speaker 1: cares about it. It's gonna be a name, you know,

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Speaker 1: And it will be very interesting to see the Democrats

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01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: circle the rank and they will that person will be

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,919
Speaker 1: treated as a martyr of the of the greatest caliber.

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Speaker 1: That person will be treated like the true patriot by

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Speaker 1: most of the media because they're gonna their their opinion

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01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: of this is, yeah, you gotta break the law. To

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Speaker 1: stop Trump. Go for it, whatever you have to do,

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01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. They're gonna be all in favor of it.

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Speaker 1: So we need to keep an eye, keep an eye

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01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: on that story. Um. I can't say that we know

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01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: yet exactly what's going to happen, but there's the very real,

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01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: very real chance that at some point it will be

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Speaker 1: it will be unearthed, it will emerge that one of

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Speaker 1: Obama's top people was playing dirty, and I mean top

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01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: people in government, in the intelligence positions. This has always

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Speaker 1: been my problem with Brennan for the last week or

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: so and before that. I expect something different from people

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Speaker 1: in the intel community and people in the military. And

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01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: to see all these former senior intelligence chiefs that are

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Speaker 1: just partisan hacks who are leveraging that they were recently

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Speaker 1: at the top of the intelligence chain for petty partisan ends.

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Speaker 1: This is this is unacceptable, It is gross, and people

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Speaker 1: should know that. All Right, we gotta we got a

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Speaker 1: big third hour coming up here in a few moments.

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Speaker 1: I just want to tell you what what we've got.

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01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: I've got the update on the Las Vegas shooter case.

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01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: The videos have been released. I watched them. I'll talk

1204
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,520
Speaker 1: you through what you see in them some new information,

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01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: but a lot of it is confirming what was already believed.

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Speaker 1: We also will discuss some of the new information about

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Speaker 1: the Austin Cereal bomber. And then I'd like to, if

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Speaker 1: I have time, get to the latest on some of

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01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: the what do they what do we have like a

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01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: turd of the Parkland uh political movement? I mean, I

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01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: don't know what the never again kids whatever we're calling them,

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01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're hashtag the hashtag never you know,

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Speaker 1: Hog and company. We've seen some very interesting, um, we've

1214
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: seen some very interesting commentary from from him recently. And

1215
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: the way the media is, the media is exploiting these

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01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: kids in ways that I think that the kids are

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01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: bringing a lot of all themselves by the media is

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Speaker 1: exploiting them in ways that's really unethical. So we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that. And then also, of course I would I

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Speaker 1: would be remiss if I did not note that Trump

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01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: may have had his greatest single tweet ever today, which

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01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: is really saying something for this president. But it is

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01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: quite possible that Trump had, in the history of his

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Speaker 1: Twitter account, his single best moment. That the p Stilla

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Speaker 1: Trump or de la Raisi stance or whatever. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We'll be back. He's holding the line

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Speaker 1: for America. Buck Sexton his back. Welcome to our three

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Speaker 1: of The Buck Sexton Show. We have the video to

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01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: talk about from the Las Vegas mass shooting from many

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Speaker 1: months ago now, but first, just some updates on the

1231
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Speaker 1: Austin serial bomber, so Mark Anthony Condite year old. We

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01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: know that he blew himself up, we know he was

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01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: the bomber, and now we're trying to go through the well,

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01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: who was this guy? And how did this happen? How

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01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: did we find ourselves in a place where this individual

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01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: was trying to engage in mass murder, mass murder by bombing,

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01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: And so far not a whole lot of information that

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01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: suggests that we could have known that not we, but

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01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: that the people around him could have known that this

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01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: was happening. He was part of a Christian survivalist group

1241
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: I've seen that reported called riot righteous Invasion of Truth.

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01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 1: And he was homeschooled and was taught gun skills. But

1243
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 1: there are millions of kids who are taught gun skills.

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01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know how many kids

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01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: are at home school. Do you have any idea. How

1246
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: many kids are in home skilling on It's a lot, um,

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01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: But none of that sticks out, does anything to be

1248
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: anything unusually need to be concerned about. Just okay, So

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: he played role playing video games. He sometimes talked about

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01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: weapons and explosives, but so do a lot of people

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01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: I know, Um, I mean, especially in the circles that

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Speaker 1: I used to travel. And but you know this is

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01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: this is not anything about him that seems to be remarkable.

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Speaker 1: In the run up to this, he has extended family

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01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 1: in Colorado. They say that nothing really about this. They

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01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: didn't see it coming, and they're shocked and they don't

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01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: know what the motive is. There's a twenty five minute

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01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,839
Speaker 1: video on his phone where he confesses to the attacks.

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01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 1: I just had producer Mike check that no snow clips

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01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 1: in the video are out yet. I've been looking for

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01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: them all day. Um, but there's nothing. There's nothing that

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01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: we can say about the video other than he admits

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: to the attacks. I'm assuming he rambles on about a

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01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 1: whole lot of other things. We don't have details on

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01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: law enforcement from that just just yet. Um. He was

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01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: caught because of his FedEx office stop. The CCTV footage

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01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: and that was very important track him down, as I

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01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 1: thought was the case at the time, and that's really

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Speaker 1: all we have. Otherwise people say he's quiet, relatively you know,

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Speaker 1: relatively normal, harmless, seeming twenty three year old, and turned

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Speaker 1: out he was a serial bomber. How he could have

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01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: how he could have transitioned into that that kind of evil,

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01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: that level of darkness I have, I don't know, you know,

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01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: with with Jee Hottest, I'll say this, there's a a

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01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:42,480
Speaker 1: whole psychological seduction that goes into the radicalization of of

1276
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: of Gee Hottests. You know, they're they're shown videos of

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01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: terrible atrocities, you know, abroad, and they're they're told that

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01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: that American soldiers and our allies are killing women and

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01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: children and discriminately doing all kinds of terrible things, and

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01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 1: that is there. It is their moral obligation to be

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01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: a righteous soldier for for Allah and all this stuff.

1282
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: And it's it's wrong and it's crazy, but at least

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01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 1: it it follows a pattern, It follows the past. You

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01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: understand how they do this, right, You understand how the

1285
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: brainwashing occurs. All of a sudden, someone could think that

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01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: it would be moral or ethical or even a a

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01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: necessity to kill innocent people with a suicide bomb or

1288
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 1: anything like that overseas as a gee hottest with someone

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01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: like condit Ah. No history of abuse that we know about,

1290
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: no um, no history of severe mental illness. They're just

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01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,879
Speaker 1: they're just saying that he was kind of a quiet,

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01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: nerdy kid and decided to become a serial bomber and

1293
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: went went through a lot of trouble and planning and

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01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: everything else to do this. So I don't have much

1295
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: more for you other than that. I think we'll have

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01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: a lot when the twenty five minute video is released.

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01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: And also, as I mentioned, we have the video now

1298
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: and you can see that of the Vegas mass shooter.

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01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 1: So that's what I've got for you on the Austin

1300
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: serial bomber case. I want to switch switch gears for

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01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: a moment though, because and so this is a usually

1302
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't mix stories in one segment, but

1303
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: I just wanted to mention that there's still this movement

1304
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 1: of foot to use the some of the more visible

1305
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: youths from the Parkland school that was the scene of

1306
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: that mass school shooting for the purposes of curtailing the

1307
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 1: Second Amendment for gun confiscation or gun restriction, all that,

1308
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and they appeared, some of those students

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01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: appeared on MSNBC last night. Well, I wish you guys success,

1310
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: I wish you resilience. I wish you'd be continuing and

1311
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: lifelong ability to laugh at people who use opinions you

1312
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 1: don't care about them with you anyway, They're right here

1313
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: start started a Jackie car and nevs right here. They're

1314
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: here for me, that's right, ten million dollar a year.

1315
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: News anchor Rachel Maddow says she's star struck by the Parkland.

1316
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: Remember this is just some of the Parkland kids that

1317
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: got a lot of media attention because I say, what

1318
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: the media likes. We have an interview. This just came

1319
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 1: through and this courtesy of the Daily Wire there where

1320
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: I found this with David Hogg, who's probably Gonzalez is

1321
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,719
Speaker 1: also very well known of these students pushing this anti

1322
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: gun agenda, but Hogg is the one who's the most

1323
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: well known, I think. And he gave an interview to

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01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: one of these new liberal sites. I don't know what

1325
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: the site is even, what's it called The Outsider or something,

1326
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: The Outsider, the Outsider, Okay, I got it right. Look

1327
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: at that he gave an interview. We had to bleep

1328
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 1: it out. But this is what he says. That This

1329
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: is what this person who is elevated by the media

1330
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: by the likes of matt Ow and others, says about

1331
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 1: the nrright play the pathetic that want to keep killing

1332
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: our children. They could have blood from children spattered all

1333
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: over their face and they wouldn't take action. When you're

1334
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: oldest parents like I don't know how to send an

1335
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: I message and just like give me the phone and

1336
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: you take in You're like, okay, let me handle it,

1337
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: and you get it done in one second. Sadly, that's

1338
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: what we have to do with our government because our

1339
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: parents don't know how to use the democracy, So we

1340
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 1: have to. I think, what secrets are out there that

1341
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: want to continue to sell more guns, murder more children

1342
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: and honestly just get reelected. Where what type of person

1343
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: are you when you want to see more money than

1344
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: children's lives? What type of person does that? Yeah, that's

1345
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 1: the that's the vanguard now of the anti gun movement

1346
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: after Parkland. That's the person who's been on He was

1347
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: on the Bill Maher show. Of course, he's on CNN

1348
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,480
Speaker 1: m SEC all the time. Here's what I can say. Um,

1349
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: he's not very smart and he's disrespectful. So you have that.

1350
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: That's just the truth. Uh, And the fact that all

1351
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 1: these news organizations have been elevating them up while he

1352
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: says things like the n r A wouldn't change their

1353
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: minds if they had the blood of children splattered on

1354
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: their faces. You a week later he'll be saying, we

1355
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: need respectful dialogue. But just don't forget who these people

1356
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: are and the adults who are putting them forward as

1357
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: victims to shame politicians into taking action. All those media

1358
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: outlets CNN, the Bill Maher Show, they should be ashamed,

1359
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: but they're not capable of shame. Clown shows, that's what

1360
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: they are. The surveillance footage is remarkable in its banality.

1361
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: It shows Stephen Paddock, the Las Vegas gunman, in the

1362
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: days before his mass shooting. He cuts a lonesome figure

1363
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: as he moves through the Mandelaide Bay Hotel, playing video

1364
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: poker for hours in the casino, buying snacks at a newsstand,

1365
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: watching a Lebron James interview in a restaurant and The Times,

1366
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: chatting with hotel stuff. The Las Vegas shooter who killed

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01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: fifty eight people, injured over five hundred wounded, over five hundred. UM.

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01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 1: He there is now shown in videos that I've been

1369
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: released from the mental a Bagasino exclusively to the New

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01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: York Times, which put out a video series on it today,

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 1: which I've watched, and it's, uh, it's eerie. UM. I

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01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: have to tell you, if you get the chance to

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01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 1: watch and would, I would recommend it. You have Stephen

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01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 1: Paddock looking like just another somewhat schlubby guy at the

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01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: slot machines, you know, walking right, He's going to a

1376
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 1: sushi restaurant. He's he's playing the slots, He's going about

1377
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 1: his business, talks to some employees, every everything seems completely normal.

1378
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: And now we have the surveillance footage that we've all

1379
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,879
Speaker 1: known has been around for a while, the surveillance footage

1380
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: of Paddock moving bag after bag after bag into his

1381
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: two rooms that he actually booked in the corner of

1382
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: the Mentelai Bay on the thirty second floor, from which

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01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: he unleashed the thousand or so rounds on the music

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01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: festival across the street. He planned this meticulously. He planned

1385
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: this meticulously, and ah, he absolutely measured it out he

1386
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: made some stops that you see on these videos. He

1387
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: made some stops at a residence that is outside I

1388
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: forget the name of the town, that was outside of

1389
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. He bought a bolt action rifle, went to

1390
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: a shooting range. Guy like has spent a lot of

1391
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: time at the range. But in this video what you

1392
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 1: see or just all of these bags coming in one

1393
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 1: after another, and the rollerbags, it just it just looked

1394
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: like luggage. There. People were saying originally, oh, he couldn't

1395
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 1: have brought this all by himself. No, he did it

1396
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: over seven days, peace by peace. He's just rolling in

1397
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: one bag after another, rolling in one bag after another,

1398
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: and they're helping him with it. The staff there has

1399
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 1: no reason to believe them, and there's no signs of

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01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: any kind that it is a situation that they should

1401
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: be concerned about. And then you just see him walking

1402
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: around as though he doesn't have a care in the world.

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01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: Guy has all the urgency of somebody who's, yeah, a

1404
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 1: retiree who's just kind of hanging out shooting the breeze.

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01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean he's not. There's nothing about him. It's from

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01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: couple except that the entire time, because he was he

1407
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: moved the weapons in over seven days. It had to

1408
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 1: be on his mind what he was gonna do. He

1409
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: also rented a room up the street that overlooked another festival,

1410
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: another music festival that was up the Las Vegas Strip,

1411
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: and he maybe was planning to hit that one first,

1412
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 1: or he he did. I would assume that he did

1413
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: reconnaissance of both and figured that the Mandalay Bay gave

1414
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: him a better vantage point. And then that horrific scene

1415
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 1: ensued where he just let out one once, one blast,

1416
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: one one series arounds after another, burst after burst after burst.

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01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: You see all these modified A R s in the room.

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01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: Um well, I can't actually tell the photos if they're

1419
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: which ones have bump stocks and which ones don't. But

1420
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: he's got I think at least nine long guns in there.

1421
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 1: He had extended extended magazine. I think he had a

1422
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: hundred round drum, but I might I might have. I

1423
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: might be mistaken on that one. It was methodically planned though,

1424
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 1: and there was no one helping him bring the stuff

1425
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: into the room, And he kept a separate room next

1426
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: door to the suite where he did most where he

1427
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: did the firing. Oh, he kept a separate room next door.

1428
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: You have to watch it because it is incredibly unnerving

1429
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: that any human being remember this way. He didn't snap.

1430
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't a spur of the moment thing. He didn't.

1431
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't that his wife just left him and he

1432
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:51,600
Speaker 1: just wanted to kill as many people as possible any

1433
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: beginning of the shooting. And this this is all on

1434
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: video as well. It's it's tough to watch. I'll I

1435
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 1: want to be clear about that the moments the stuff

1436
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 1: in the in the casino is not at the moment

1437
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: he opens up, because there's a lot of first person

1438
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 1: footage from the uh the grounds of the music festival,

1439
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: and initially there's a couple of very faint pops. He

1440
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: fires off a few rounds at a time. There are

1441
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: two theories they talk about as to why he did this.

1442
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: One is that he was just trying to see if

1443
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:30,560
Speaker 1: he had measured out the range properly, so he was

1444
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: zeroing in in before he wanted to unleash bursts, extended bursts,

1445
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 1: and the other is that he might have actually been

1446
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: trying to see if he could to start this whole

1447
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 1: thing off hit these fuel tanks of a jet fuel

1448
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: that were beyond the beyond the actual grounds of the

1449
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: music festival. Um, they have nothing to share at this

1450
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: point still about motive. It's hard to believe, but they

1451
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: really don't have anything to share when it comes to motive.

1452
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 1: They don't know why they don't. There's no insights that

1453
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: I've seen that were worth anything in terms of the

1454
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 1: analysts that are out there. Um, they've done a brain

1455
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: exam on him, and they just have nothing but questions here.

1456
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: I'd like to tell you that I have a an

1457
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 1: analysis of this that will explain things that I I

1458
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: think that I've got this one nailed down, and I

1459
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: just don't never seen anything like this. The biggest smash

1460
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 1: shooting in modern American history. And no, no, there's nothing

1461
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: about this guy's past, nothing about his background that would

1462
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: make you think, oh, well, you know he was someone

1463
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: to be on the lookout for. It's in that sense

1464
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: it's additionally terrifying. I always feel like when we know

1465
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: that somebody was problem, we just failed to deal with them. Well,

1466
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 1: we gotta make we gotta figure out better procedures we have,

1467
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 1: we have to come up with a way to deal

1468
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: with deal with them, right. But at least we know

1469
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: that we could have done something with this guy, I

1470
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: don't know, there weren't teams of people that The teams

1471
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: of people helping him were the bell boys, the bellhops,

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01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: the you know, the staff in the Mandalay Bay that's

1473
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 1: it was helping him. They didn't know the response, and

1474
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see some of you in the

1475
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: law enforcing community may really disagree with me here, but

1476
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: the response seems pretty I'm talking about in the hotel outside.

1477
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 1: You just gotta get to cover, get people to safety.

1478
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 1: Understand it's mayhem, it's carnage, and it's it's horrifying. Inside

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Speaker 1: the hotel, the security response from the security guards still

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01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: seems to me to be just weirdly slow. They couldn't

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01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: figure out where well. I mean, they got a guy

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01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: who's shooting through a door at them, and it took

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01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 1: of I think seven minutes before they got police up there.

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01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: I have to go back and even look at the timeline.

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01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: I also don't understand why we were given so much

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01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: incorrect information about this in the the not just the

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01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 1: first few days, but in the really the first two

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01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: weeks after. We've given timelines that were wrong. So I

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Speaker 1: would recommend it if you if you are someone who

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01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 1: still wants to know what really happened here. I mean,

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01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 1: he transported twenty one bags over the course of seven days.

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01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: He jokes with staff, he passes out tips. He's just

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01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 1: hanging out, playing slots, eating sushi, bringing bag after bag

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01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: of various semi automatic rifles into a hotel suite overlooking

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01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 1: a concert the whole time, planning to just shoot as

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01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 1: many innocent people as possible. It is. It is as

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01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: dark and evil as it gets, and nobody could have

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01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,839
Speaker 1: seen this thing coming from what you see in these videos.

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01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: Nobody wouldn't know. They didn't have the bright neon signs here,

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01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: they didn't have the red flags, none of that. He

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01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: was taking his time, and it seems to me that

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01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: maybe this was just person who wanted to go out

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01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: in a in a blaze of evil glory, and that's

1504
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 1: that was the only motivation that I can see to this.

1505
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: He's back with you now, because when it comes to

1506
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:53,719
Speaker 1: the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. I wanted

1507
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: to get into if you notice in the national press

1508
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 1: talking about Trump's behavior, his personal behavior, but what he said,

1509
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:11,879
Speaker 1: he did and does is a textbook definition of sexual

1510
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,560
Speaker 1: assault and thinking, then we will think about this so

1511
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: he's going to talk about his person than that he said,

1512
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 1: because about famous, because I'm a star, because get a billionaire,

1513
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: I can do things other people can't can't. What a

1514
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 1: disgusting assertion. Gosh dang, the press always asked me, don't

1515
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 1: I wish I were debating him? No, I wish you

1516
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 1: were in high school. I could take it behind the gym.

1517
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: That's what I wish. Take him behind the gym, Joe

1518
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: Biden says. I gotta say, of all of the Trump

1519
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: feuds so far, this one is among my very favorite,

1520
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: because first, well you get Biden there, who's clearly trying

1521
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: to to give his his lungs of workout in preparation

1522
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 1: for a run. These guys all have the Larry King disease. Folks,

1523
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: they think they're the only and it's true of ladies

1524
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: in the profession too, but they think they're the only

1525
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 1: ones who can do the job and that they're needed.

1526
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Oh where would America be without blue color? Joe Biden?

1527
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: The answer is exactly where we are right now, because

1528
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: we don't care and we don't need him. But he

1529
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: thinks we do, and he went after Trump there, Take

1530
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: him behind the high school. He says, you guys ready

1531
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: for the for the Trump response. First of all, I

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01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 1: I gotta say, of all the Trump tweets, this is

1533
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: among my very favorite from from this morning Market down

1534
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:51,759
Speaker 1: on your calendars, March, the day of the greatest Trump

1535
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 1: tweet of all time, Crazy Joe Biden. This is what

1536
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 1: Trump wrote, Crazy Joe Biden is trying to act like

1537
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:03,959
Speaker 1: a tough guy. Actually he is weak, both mentally and physically,

1538
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 1: and yet he threatens me for the second time with

1539
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 1: physical assault. He doesn't know me, but he would go

1540
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 1: down fast and hard, crying all the way. Don't threaten people, Joe.

1541
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 1: I was reading this this morning. I just kept reading

1542
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 1: it over and over, and I think it might be

1543
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: the only tweet that I've read aloud to myself, just

1544
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: because I it's so fun each time you read it.

1545
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 1: And you know, there's a part of me that wanted

1546
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 1: to wanted to yell the Trump uh sweep the leg,

1547
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: sweep the leg. No mercy, no mercy. These guys are

1548
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: like ready to just tussle out there. I think they're

1549
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: both in there seventies. And while there is such a

1550
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 1: thing as as old man strength, I don't know if

1551
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 1: you ever come across it. But those of you who

1552
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: ever got on the wrong side of your grandpa, you

1553
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Old man strength is a

1554
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 1: real thing. It's fierce, it's there, and it surprises you.

1555
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 1: But I, first of all, if we if we did

1556
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:10,440
Speaker 1: go back in time, Trump, Trump is like six three

1557
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: and he's actually a pretty big dude. So way back

1558
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 1: I see. But now I was gonna say, way back

1559
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 1: in the day, clearly Trump would be victorious if they

1560
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: were to have gaged engaged in pugilistic combat of some

1561
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 1: kind high school Biden, I'm talking about now in high

1562
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 1: school Trump, Um, But now I think they should be

1563
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit beyond this. Uh. It's

1564
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: a little bit like the scene and step Brothers and

1565
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 1: I have you seen that movie where they're just like

1566
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,719
Speaker 1: wrestling out in the lawn and it's all going crazy

1567
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 1: and haywire. But of all of the all of the

1568
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 1: Trump tweets all time quote, he doesn't know me, but

1569
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: he would go down fast and hard, crying all the way.

1570
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: Don't threaten people. Joe is among my very favorites. Reminds

1571
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 1: me this this kid that I knew growing up. His

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01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 1: name was his name was Kyle, and we were all

1573
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 1: at the gym once and we saw his dad, and

1574
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 1: his dad had old man strength. You know. His dad

1575
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 1: was one of these guys who would be out there

1576
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: and you could see like there was a fierceness. There

1577
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of we weren't a lot of weight

1578
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: plates moving, but there was a fierceness in all of

1579
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: the Cibex machine, you know, all the Nautilus machine movements

1580
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: that he was doing. You know, like like he was angry.

1581
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 1: You know, he was in his fifties and he was angry.

1582
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 1: Um and I was like a teenager. We're talking about

1583
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 1: back in the day here, And I just remember he said,

1584
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 1: is the son walked over to dad and he's like,

1585
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, hey, Dad, you know you keep working out

1586
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 1: and you may be able to actually, you know, go

1587
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 1: a few rounds with me. You said something kind of

1588
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, Josh and him just messing around a little bit,

1589
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 1: and his dad goes, kylie, oh, if if if it

1590
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 1: were you and me, there'd be two sounds, me hitting

1591
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 1: you and you hitting the floor. I always remembered that.

1592
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, gets the point across the silly

1593
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 1: tough guy talk from any any politician at this point,

1594
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty funny. Um, I just like that Trump

1595
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: told Trump called him uh mentally and physically weak. Just

1596
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 1: look across the board. Don't get into an insult contest

1597
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: with Trump. This is like getting into a prickly contest

1598
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 1: with a porcupine. Folks, you will lose. Trump is better

1599
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:25,520
Speaker 1: at the insults. He is just better at the insults

1600
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: than the opposition. They of all the places they're gonna go,

1601
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 1: this is the one that they should be the most

1602
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 1: certain they will lose. He really has a gift for

1603
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 1: nicknames and slapping people down. For for buckslapping people if

1604
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: you will. It was like you never is gonna get

1605
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 1: John's actually very simple, although I guess we'd have to

1606
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: call it a Trump slab. I guess. So we're gonna

1607
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 1: hit a break here, will be back with roll call.

1608
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 1: Let's get right to it because we have a lot

1609
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:02,719
Speaker 1: of great messages today. Let's hop in to the roll call,

1610
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: Team Buck. It's time for roll call. All right. These

1611
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 1: are coming to us courtesy of our email box, which

1612
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 1: is official Team Buck at gmail dot com. And you

1613
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,879
Speaker 1: shall now hear from yourselves out there across the country.

1614
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: We have Ryan in New York who writes, Hello Buck,

1615
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:39,799
Speaker 1: love the show, love your insight, and maybe above all else,

1616
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: love the wit. Well. Thank you, Ryan. I'm typically a

1617
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,520
Speaker 1: day or two behind because I primarily listened to your podcast,

1618
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 1: and most often doing that during my commutes to and

1619
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,719
Speaker 1: from work. On the subject of school safety, I've often

1620
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 1: wondered why we aren't simply uh coside ring an approach

1621
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 1: whereby we bulletproof walls, windows and doors. Perhaps there's even

1622
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 1: a cost sensible approach to it. For example, is there

1623
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 1: such a thing as a kevlar membrane that would be

1624
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,759
Speaker 1: installed beneath a layer of sheet rock hurricane proof windows

1625
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 1: would stop small caliber bullets, the point being that the

1626
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 1: school would become a safe haven rather than shooting a

1627
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 1: fish in a barrel. With that set, I'm very much

1628
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 1: in favor of concealed carry for license gun owners, which

1629
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: would also be a deterrent. Of course, like any rational person,

1630
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: I know that nothing will stop a highly motivated psycho.

1631
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: Thank you for being a voice of reason in a

1632
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 1: world of lunacy and deception. Shields high from Ryan, Ryan,

1633
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm with you on the concealed carry, and we obviously

1634
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 1: just saw a couple of days ago a armed school

1635
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: resources officer who stopped a shooting and confronted and killed

1636
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 1: a school shooter. So the evidence is clear on that

1637
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:55,759
Speaker 1: it can work, It can help, It can stop mass

1638
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 1: loss of life in a school. In terms of hardening

1639
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: the targ it as a function of the facility making

1640
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 1: the walls bulletproof. It's just cost prohibitive for one, and

1641
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 1: I don't know that that would really stop all that

1642
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,799
Speaker 1: much because remember, sure people can be hit through doors

1643
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: and through walls, but for the most part, a shooter

1644
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 1: is going to be trying to shoot the people that

1645
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: he sees out in the hallway in a school. And

1646
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 1: on top of it, I just am one of the

1647
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 1: few people I feel like he's willing to say it.

1648
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:30,799
Speaker 1: But it is true. School shootings are not as common

1649
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 1: and as a large a problem from a policy perspective

1650
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,719
Speaker 1: as the media would have us believe. This is about guns.

1651
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 1: The narrative is about stopping people from owning guns. It

1652
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: is not primarily concerned with stopping school shootings. So thank

1653
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,719
Speaker 1: you very much for your note. My friend um Brandy

1654
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 1: is next up here. Hi, Buck, love your show and

1655
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm Oss original Saturday Squad. I'm a podcast listener and

1656
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,759
Speaker 1: just now matching up on Friday show, including the Irish

1657
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,560
Speaker 1: movie quotes. I recall a listener once suggest that you

1658
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 1: check out the movie Boondocks Saints, so I have to

1659
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,639
Speaker 1: reiterate that suggestion because that has to be the best

1660
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's movie out there, although as an animal lover,

1661
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 1: I would recommend just fast forwarding through the cat scene

1662
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 1: as it is pretty awful. Well, Brandy, thank you for

1663
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 1: the note. I have never seen Boondocs Saints. I had

1664
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 1: some friends in college who were big fans of the movie,

1665
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,679
Speaker 1: and somehow it escaped some of my weekend movie binge

1666
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 1: sessions when I was an undergrad. I believe it's ultra violent,

1667
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 1: so I might have to either fast forward or skip

1668
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 1: around a bit. Uh. But well, I'll check it out.

1669
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 1: I'll see if I can get it on demand on

1670
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 1: my TV. Here, and thank you very much Brandy for

1671
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 1: being oss and for your note. We have another email

1672
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 1: in here, remember official Team Buck at gmail dot com

1673
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 1: if you want to send us your thoughts. Greetings Buck,

1674
01:40:57,280 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 1: Hope you're well. Um, this comes what was a lot

1675
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 1: in here. This is from Dave. Very glad to hear

1676
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 1: your comments about the land situation in South Africa. It

1677
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: is not surprising this is not covered in the news.

1678
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 1: Maybe when the slaughter starts, but I have been aware

1679
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 1: of this for some time. Ms Molly is also very

1680
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 1: popular here in Alabama, Alabama. Let her know this. Some

1681
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 1: of the things and these emails will not be appropriate

1682
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 1: for her. And don't be a fool. Marry the girl

1683
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 1: if she will have you. Um, okay, thank you. I'm

1684
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna skip around here, and uh, I appreciate

1685
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 1: very much the kind note from the Alabama self titled

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Speaker 1: Bucks Alabama Fan Club Shields High. And then we get

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Speaker 1: one more coming up here on school safety. I'll wait, no,

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Speaker 1: that was we already did that one. Excuse me, folks. Uh,

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Speaker 1: here we go, Daniel, right hey, Buck love the show.

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Speaker 1: I've been a podcast listener since you first filled in

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Speaker 1: for Rush. I love the history podcast. But I get

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01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 1: us that's dead. Now. It's not dead, Daniel, we are.

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01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: I've just pulled in many directions. It's not dead. I

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01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 1: promise you. It's gonna come back, and it's going to

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Speaker 1: have a place where it will live. Uh. And we're

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01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 1: gonna add more to it and we I just needed

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Speaker 1: to do a test run of it. And then I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go back and figure out a way to continue

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Speaker 1: it and make it sustainable. And it really has to

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Speaker 1: do with the time that we're spending on it and

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01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 1: whether we go with a a subscription model for the

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01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 1: podcast or an advertiser model, because I can't have uh,

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01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,640
Speaker 1: the studio time and the things that I do for

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01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 1: it if it's gonna just gonna continue on as a

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01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 1: as a product that we don't treat as a business,

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01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: right that that's really the issue with the podcast. We

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01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 1: have enough downloads for it to be a business. We

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01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 1: just need to figure out which side of the business

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go in. But that's what it is. Sometimes

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01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: it just comes down to dollars and cents in life.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm hoping that there will be just

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Speaker 1: a few thousand folks out there even if we do

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Speaker 1: go subscription route, uh, and it would be the price

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Speaker 1: of a cup of coffee once a month. I mean,

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01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about, Um, that there'll be enough

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Speaker 1: folks that really appreciate it that if we did it

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Speaker 1: once weekly, they'd be willing to subscribe. So that's the hope,

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01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 1: and that's we're working on it. Just trying to fill

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Speaker 1: in the back inside of that. Alright. Next up here

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Speaker 1: we have Daniel Hey Buck Love the show. No sorry,

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Speaker 1: it's a continuation of my bad Daniel. I've got coffee

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Speaker 1: brain right now. I've been drinking too much caffeine and

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01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 1: it means that the synapses are firing too quickly. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: black and white movie recommendation is Doctor Strange Glove. Honestly,

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01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:34,599
Speaker 1: it is inexcusable that you haven't seen it yet. Also,

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01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 1: in the war against the Dad Bod, you need to

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01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 1: enlist the Jocko podcast. You had him on the show.

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01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 1: Truly a great and inspirational guy. He's got my lazy

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Speaker 1: self up and getting after it at oh four hundred

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Speaker 1: every day. Thanks for the great show, Shields high and

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Speaker 1: never forget it's all in the reflexes from Daniel. And

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Speaker 1: now we will get into the Facebook of part of

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01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 1: Roll Call for a couple of minutes at least we'll

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Speaker 1: have a big round up of Facebook messages. We got

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Speaker 1: a ton this week on Friday for our freestyle. But

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Speaker 1: here's what we get it. If you want to join

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Speaker 1: in the fun Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton I'm

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Speaker 1: in writes Hello, Mr Sexton, just wanted to say I

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Speaker 1: love your show. Always a thriller every night I listened

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01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,719
Speaker 1: on I Heart Radio, still trying to get a handle

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01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:30,799
Speaker 1: on the times you guys come on, meaning Beck, Hannity,

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01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Rush and you podcast. My ten year old showed me

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01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 1: what it was and I'm only thirty seven. But I

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01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:40,600
Speaker 1: have to ask, are you the secret brother of Chucker Carlson.

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01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 1: You guys look so much alike. I don't believe Tucker

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01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 1: and I are related, but you got Tucker in Buck.

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01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 1: Sounds like a great buddy cop show maybe or something

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01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 1: Tucker and Buck or I don't know, maybe not a

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01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 1: cop show, but some kind of a show. It was

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01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 1: very nice to Tucker to have me on this show

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01:44:57,479 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 1: earlier on in the week. As to when I him

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Speaker 1: on six to nine. Easter is when I'm on. That's

1753
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 1: when I'm on the I Heart app. You can also

1754
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 1: always listen to my going to Buck Sexton dot calm

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01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:13,759
Speaker 1: uh here we go, Hold on a second, um whoa

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Speaker 1: uh oh boy, Bud, don't know where to start with

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Speaker 1: your coverage of Marcus meet him tonight. First off, I

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Speaker 1: will say I love your show. You're even keeled. Don't

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01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 1: resort to add homed this is from Gentry. Don't resort

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01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 1: to add hominem often, and your points are well researched

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Speaker 1: and thought out normally. That being said, he was not

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Speaker 1: making a Nazi joke. He was, in every sense of

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Speaker 1: the actual context, making an anti Nazi joke. As a

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Speaker 1: Jew myself, I found it hilarious, as the video clearly

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Speaker 1: starts with them saying his girlfriend loves the dog, so

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Speaker 1: he wants to make it the least cute thing he

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Speaker 1: can think of. This is no different than Mitchell and

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Speaker 1: Webb playing s S officers when one ponders to the other,

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Speaker 1: are we the batties? Because of this skull insignia, the

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Speaker 1: Nazis were obsessed with his screen name, Count Dankila has

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01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 1: nothing to do with marijuana. It has to do with

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Speaker 1: dank memes. Well, Gentry, do you know where dank Originally?

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna jump in here for a second. Dank

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Speaker 1: memes is what people say now. Before that it was

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01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 1: dank marijuana, Sir, I'm just talking about the derivation of

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Speaker 1: the word um. And this goes on for quite some length. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot going on here. My friend Shields Higbuck,

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Speaker 1: keep up the good work. Otherwise her coverage. Wasn't that bad? Um? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so a few things. Gentry sank he is Jewish. He's

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Speaker 1: saying it's not offensive. Look, you know, some people find

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Speaker 1: it really He said he's making Joe gas the Jews.

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Speaker 1: That was one of the things that he said. I

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01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 1: think that's in really poor taste. So but I will

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Speaker 1: note that I'm doing I'm doing a segment on a

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Speaker 1: national radio show about this guy in the UK because

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Speaker 1: I think it's crazy that he's in trouble for this.

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Speaker 1: I think it's crazy that he's been kicked off of you.

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01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,599
Speaker 1: You've been going to prison for this. So I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: in favor of the free speech here. I think that

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Speaker 1: was clear from the segment. If we're gonna go back

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Speaker 1: and forth a little bit on whether you think that

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Speaker 1: joke is offensive or not, Um, you know, to each

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Speaker 1: his own on that one. And an offensiveness is is subjective,

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Speaker 1: although I think this one is stretching the limits of

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Speaker 1: subjectivity at some level. Um. And I also love pugs,

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Speaker 1: so I hate that a pug is somehow brought into

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Speaker 1: the middle of this mess. Uh So, anyway, I I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, um, and thank you for writing me and

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Speaker 1: so there we get it. Some people think that it

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Speaker 1: was not even offensive folks according to my inbox here, Um,

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Speaker 1: I have to agree to disagree on that one. But

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Speaker 1: that's actually gonna have to close out the Freedom Hunt

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Speaker 1: for today. Although I've got about a hundred other notes

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Speaker 1: here that I'd love to get to. Will pick them

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Speaker 1: out for tomorrow, a bunch of them. Actually, maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: do uh an elongated segment towards the end of the

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Speaker 1: show tomorrow in the Freedom Hunt of just Team Bucks weeks.

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Speaker 1: This is one of my look this is the part

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Speaker 1: of the show that I always look forward to. So

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Speaker 1: with that, I'm gonna say we'll close it out. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for being here with me Tomorrow Freestyle

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Speaker 1: Friday and Yes in appearance by Commie Bear Shields High