Speaker 1: Everybody knows they're supposed to do their best, but what
Speaker 1: prevents them from doing their best is the fact that
Speaker 1: they're thinking about everything else. Welcome to the one you
Speaker 1: feed Throughout time, great thinkers have recognized the importance of
Speaker 1: the thoughts we have. Quotes like garbage in, garbage out,
Speaker 1: or you are what you think ring true. And yet
Speaker 1: for many of us, our thoughts don't strengthen or empower us.
Speaker 1: We tend toward negativity, self pity, jealousy, or fear. We
Speaker 1: see what we don't have instead of what we do.
Speaker 1: We think things that hold us back and dampen our spirit.
Speaker 1: But it's not just about thinking. Our actions matter. It
Speaker 1: takes conscious, consistent, and creative effort to make a life
Speaker 1: worth living. This podcast is about how other people keep
Speaker 1: themselves moving in the right direction, how they feed their
Speaker 1: good wolf Y, thanks for joining us. Our guest on
Speaker 1: this episode is Tony Horton, the master behind the best
Speaker 1: selling fitness series P ninety x, P ninty X two,
Speaker 1: ten Minute Trainer and his latest thirty Minute Dynamo P
Speaker 1: ninety x three. He also has a brand new X
Speaker 1: series prequel called P ninety Tony is a world class
Speaker 1: motivational speaker and author of the top selling books Bring It,
Speaker 1: Crush It, and the incredibly motivating The Big Picture. Tony
Speaker 1: believes that real and lasting change can happen when we
Speaker 1: commit to health is a lifestyle. And here's the interview
Speaker 1: with Tony Horton. Hi, Tony, Welcome to the show. Eric Pleasure,
Speaker 1: my man. I am excited to have you on. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time I have I have. I've
Speaker 1: jokingly talked before about having done your some of your workouts,
Speaker 1: and I've taken your name in vain a couple of times,
Speaker 1: but in the in the best of ways. As I've
Speaker 1: watched those workouts. Who wouldn't be the first, Eric, that's sure.
Speaker 1: My ears are constantly ringing, I would imagine. So. Our
Speaker 1: show is called The One You Feed, and it's based
Speaker 1: on the parable of Two Wolves, where there's a grandfather
Speaker 1: who's talking with his grandson and he says, in life,
Speaker 1: there are two wolves inside of us that are always
Speaker 1: at battle. One is a good wolf, which represents things
Speaker 1: like kindness and bravery and love, and the other is
Speaker 1: a bad wolf, which represents things like greed and hatred
Speaker 1: and fear. And the grandson stops, and he thinks about
Speaker 1: it for a second, and he looks up at his
Speaker 1: grandfather and he says, well, grandfather, which one wins? And
Speaker 1: the grandfather says, the one you feed. So I'd like
Speaker 1: to start off by asking you what that parable means
Speaker 1: to you in your life and in the work that
Speaker 1: you do. Well. I love that parable because it has
Speaker 1: a lot to do with some of the things that
Speaker 1: I used to struggle with when I was a wee lad.
Speaker 1: I used to feed all the wrong things, including my
Speaker 1: stomach and um. I would feed my brain filled with
Speaker 1: with sadness and depression and anxiety and fear and uh,
Speaker 1: and I would use all the words that would really
Speaker 1: give those those types of things all the fuel it
Speaker 1: needed to sort of overwhelm me. Um. But obviously, the
Speaker 1: reason why I've been able to achieve the success that
Speaker 1: I have to this point is because at some point
Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough to find the right books and
Speaker 1: seminars and mentors to begin to feed feed the better
Speaker 1: of the two. Um and uh. And now I just
Speaker 1: I just I just continue to make sure that I
Speaker 1: do that. And you know, the one thing is is
Speaker 1: that it's an ever changing world. Um. You know, my
Speaker 1: industry along with the other types of industries that help
Speaker 1: that help you help me grow and improve, whether it
Speaker 1: be social media or building website, or doing a YouTube
Speaker 1: channel or a podcast, or or developing new programs. It's
Speaker 1: not like you can repeat the same techniques, practices and
Speaker 1: philosophies over and over and over again hoping they're gonna
Speaker 1: work out. You have to kind of constantly re educate yourself.
Speaker 1: So it's not like things haven't changed all that much.
Speaker 1: The challenges are still there. It's just that I have
Speaker 1: to keep feeding, feeding the good wolf to be able
Speaker 1: to be able to get what I want to get
Speaker 1: out of life, so that there's more laughter and humor
Speaker 1: and patience and joy and altruism and happiness in my life.
Speaker 1: And and sometimes I think a lot of people who struggle,
Speaker 1: who are feeding the you know, feeding the negative, are
Speaker 1: really into some degree just don't have the right information yet. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously some people can change easier than others. They get
Speaker 1: the intel and they're good to go and they just
Speaker 1: make that degrees shift. But others kind of need to
Speaker 1: hammer over the head or they need, you know, a
Speaker 1: different form of rhetoric um to be able to create
Speaker 1: the change that they want to change. Know, sometimes folks,
Speaker 1: you know, they need the tough love. Sometimes people need
Speaker 1: um more understanding and more patients and a more gentle approach.
Speaker 1: And it really depends on the individual. So you know,
Speaker 1: it really comes down to what books, seminars, friends, family,
Speaker 1: co workers, and mentors, teachers and coaches you have in
Speaker 1: your life. And if you've got the kind that that
Speaker 1: resonate with you, that makes you feel good to help
Speaker 1: you learn better, then you're good to go. But if
Speaker 1: if you've got the wrong ones, then you're gonna really
Speaker 1: feel bad because you think, Wow, here are some people
Speaker 1: that are on some level I respect, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not getting better. It feels like I what they're
Speaker 1: what they're saying makes sense, but it doesn't resonate with me.
Speaker 1: And so that's that's the tricky part. Sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: you can walk into a yoga class and you can
Speaker 1: hear all kinds of things about how great yoga is
Speaker 1: and how portant it is for balance and range emotion
Speaker 1: and inner peace and whatever, and you just get the
Speaker 1: wrong you walk into the wrong instructor and you get
Speaker 1: hurt or there there's nothing about it that seems like
Speaker 1: it should be yoga and it feels like something else,
Speaker 1: then chances are you never go to a yoga class again,
Speaker 1: so you never get to have that great experience and
Speaker 1: so um. And then you know, most people would say
Speaker 1: forget it, I'm out, uh, and others would rarely say, oh,
Speaker 1: let me try to get in with somebody else, and
Speaker 1: let me try to get with somebody else, and and
Speaker 1: that's all important. So that that's what that means to me.
Speaker 1: I mean going to long winded answer, but it really
Speaker 1: does feel like if you you know, if you don't
Speaker 1: like the company you keep, it's time to it's time
Speaker 1: to make new friends. People who are living large and
Speaker 1: taking charge and feeling good and exercising on a regular
Speaker 1: basis or eating great healthy food that have a sense
Speaker 1: of adventure, and you just got to search them out.
Speaker 1: And if they're not in your family, you don't have
Speaker 1: those kind of co workers, it feels aren't your friends.
Speaker 1: That's that's a big scary thing to do to start
Speaker 1: looking for new friends, especially when you're not in high
Speaker 1: school or college and you kind of settled into your lifestyle.
Speaker 1: It's very difficult. But you know, if you don't like
Speaker 1: where you live, then you've got to you've got to
Speaker 1: make a change. And and that's what I did. I
Speaker 1: just started going. I just started signing up for things,
Speaker 1: and I started reading books that that I had heard
Speaker 1: about that it helped people. And I started exercising, eating better,
Speaker 1: And so I created a chemical change, not only as
Speaker 1: physiological one, but also a mental and emotional change as
Speaker 1: a result of of new behaviors that were you know,
Speaker 1: pumping ran effer and dopamine, serotonin, brain derived neurotropic factor,
Speaker 1: all these things that I didn't even know existed, that
Speaker 1: were happening inside of my brain. That we're changing my
Speaker 1: outlook about life, my willingness to sort of open up
Speaker 1: to new things, new adventures. And that's what exercise me
Speaker 1: maybing like different for me. Yeah, there you go. It's definitely.
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting how different people resonate with different things.
Speaker 1: And it certainly would be nice if it was as
Speaker 1: easy as UM, you know, all of us just had
Speaker 1: to hear one thing one time and make the change,
Speaker 1: But obviously it takes it takes more for certain people
Speaker 1: at at different points. You've written a new called The
Speaker 1: Big Picture, Eleven Laws that will Change your life, and UM,
Speaker 1: this book is based on a lot of the work
Speaker 1: that you've done before, but it's a little bit broader
Speaker 1: than just a book about fitness. And you say that
Speaker 1: there's a physical and mental and emotional component of each
Speaker 1: of your eleven laws, but that it's a good idea
Speaker 1: to start with the physical and each of them. Why
Speaker 1: do you recommend that, Well, you know, it's it's one
Speaker 1: of the things that we control, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: it's same thing with our with food, that we control
Speaker 1: those two things. We control what we what we do physically,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of things that are outside of
Speaker 1: the control to create a lot of our problems, you know.
Speaker 1: And so if you're if you're physically out of shape
Speaker 1: and you're nutritionally in big trouble, then you're just making
Speaker 1: life more complicated for yourself and um, and you don't
Speaker 1: have to. So why not go after the things that
Speaker 1: you can control? Why not go after the physical and
Speaker 1: so the crazy thing, it's purely based on the on
Speaker 1: the on the science behind physical movement and what it
Speaker 1: does to the human brain. John Rady wrote a great
Speaker 1: book called Spark, and uh, you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: this is just right out straight out of John's book,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, he's a Harvard professor and he's
Speaker 1: done a lot of study about the effects of physical
Speaker 1: activity on the human brain and how it changes your
Speaker 1: outlooks purely by moving. And you know you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to run a half marathon or do a mud run,
Speaker 1: or or you know, do a p n I d
Speaker 1: X chest and back routine or a pliometric routine. But
Speaker 1: you do need to do something for about twenty minutes
Speaker 1: with a relative amount of intensity, so you get your
Speaker 1: heart rate up to pump blocks and into your brain
Speaker 1: so you get the so you get the brain chemicals.
Speaker 1: That literally creates something called neurogenesis inside of the brain.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's molecules and proteins kind of vibrating and
Speaker 1: finding themselveselves inside of your brain. It's it's what most
Speaker 1: of us do when we're trying to do a cheek
Speaker 1: version of that through drugs and alcohol. Drugs and alcohol
Speaker 1: will will change your state immediately. You know, you do
Speaker 1: a couple of shots of tequila and your personality is different.
Speaker 1: Your outlook is different, you're you're the way you perceive
Speaker 1: a moment is different. You feel like you just feel good.
Speaker 1: You feel like you're having a good time, but then
Speaker 1: you know there's you're sort of loading dopamine into your
Speaker 1: head um and then the next day reveals a completely
Speaker 1: different situation. Right, there's always a there's always a downside
Speaker 1: of that kind of behavior, But there is no downside
Speaker 1: with the chemical uh barrage that you get from exercise.
Speaker 1: It's just a healthier, cleaner, more natural version of getting it.
Speaker 1: You don't get it in the huge quantities, you get
Speaker 1: it in just the right quantity, so the next day
Speaker 1: you don't feel like, you know, you've been run over
Speaker 1: by a train. And and and so you know, every
Speaker 1: single law in the book work together, you know, and
Speaker 1: they can they work individually. But really it's a collection
Speaker 1: of different things that I think that you that people
Speaker 1: could do um and follow so that the struggle is
Speaker 1: diminished and the pleasure factor goes up, and the scent
Speaker 1: of adventure goes up, and and your state of happiness
Speaker 1: goes up, and you know, it basically turns this is
Speaker 1: for me. This is the reason why I wrote them.
Speaker 1: It turned a sea mined student with a speech impeditent
Speaker 1: and a very negative outlook on life into somebody who
Speaker 1: was the opposite of that, and it happened through a
Speaker 1: better diet and regular movement. Um. And I know I've
Speaker 1: been that this stuff for thirty five years and I
Speaker 1: still believe in that today. And I've heard some amazing feedback.
Speaker 1: I got a note on my on my website from
Speaker 1: a young kid whose mother was an alcoholic and having
Speaker 1: some real issues, you know what I mean, just stuck
Speaker 1: to drink in and and I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: what level. I don't know. She's a functioning alcoholic, but
Speaker 1: she apparently was not a good mother. And uh, it
Speaker 1: was kind of embarrassing for this kid to have a
Speaker 1: mom who was, you know, drunk a lot of the time.
Speaker 1: And she read the book and she just stopped drinking
Speaker 1: and started exercising, and he has a completely different mother. Now.
Speaker 1: I mean I never met this woman, you know, I
Speaker 1: never met him. All I got was this email that says,
Speaker 1: your book saved my mother's life. She's a completely different person.
Speaker 1: She's a motivator, she's a teacher, she's a great company.
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to drink at all anymore. Didn't have
Speaker 1: to go through a didn't have to go through counseling,
Speaker 1: didn't have to do any of those things. She got
Speaker 1: that from my book. Holy smokes. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not here to endorse my book as a means
Speaker 1: for you to stop drinking and taking drugs. But if
Speaker 1: you follow what it is, drinking and taking drugs just
Speaker 1: don't fit into the into the lesson loss. It's just
Speaker 1: virtually impossible. So you can read it and then you
Speaker 1: can kind of break it down in your head and say, well,
Speaker 1: this makes sense. Now I have to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to sort of stop doing what I was doing
Speaker 1: and begin to do what Tony tells me to do,
Speaker 1: because you know, he was in a bad way. You know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't an alcoholic. I mean I I drank a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, when I didn't know better, because that's what
Speaker 1: everybody else was doing in the seventies and early eighties, right,
Speaker 1: And then I just thought, this doesn't serve me anymore.
Speaker 1: I can't do these things and be the person I
Speaker 1: want to be. So I just stopped. I just stopped,
Speaker 1: and I haven't ever looked back. I've never had any
Speaker 1: cravings for for drugs or alcohol of any kind because
Speaker 1: it's just it just goes against the grain of everything
Speaker 1: I believe in. And so if you believe and what's
Speaker 1: in the book. You believe in those eleven laws, then
Speaker 1: you begin to make those physical and nutrition physical and
Speaker 1: nutritional changes that will automatically change you, just will change
Speaker 1: your outlook. It's just those two, don't you know. Those
Speaker 1: two worlds can't co exist. And now all speaking of
Speaker 1: the show, back to the interview with Tony Horton, Let's
Speaker 1: talk about a couple of the love and the laws.
Speaker 1: The first one will be familiar to anybody who has
Speaker 1: watched any of your videos, and it's one that I love.
Speaker 1: I think it's such a succinct and powerful statement, which
Speaker 1: is do your best and forget the rest. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just like any kind of a statement that rhymes. I
Speaker 1: don't know why me too. Muhammad Ali, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? That was something he used to be pretty
Speaker 1: good at. Um. Yeah, I mean when you break that down,
Speaker 1: everybody knows they're supposed to do their best, but what
Speaker 1: prevents them from doing their best is the fact that
Speaker 1: they're thinking about everything else. You know, they're comparing themselves
Speaker 1: to the past, they comparing themselves to other people. Um Uh,
Speaker 1: they're just judging it and the rest is the judgment
Speaker 1: that you attach to whatever public speaking, you know, achieving
Speaker 1: a certain amount of success during a sports event. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, hoping that you can do it many pull
Speaker 1: ups and push ups as you could do ten years
Speaker 1: ago when you were exercising on a regular basis when
Speaker 1: you were in high school. You know, there's all this
Speaker 1: noise in our head that prevents us from doing our best.
Speaker 1: And so if you understand that your best, even if
Speaker 1: you're somebody is in great shape and eating right, changes
Speaker 1: on a daily basis. It changes daily, forget about weekly, monthly,
Speaker 1: It just changes all the time. And there are things
Speaker 1: that are out of our out of our control. I mean,
Speaker 1: there might be a certain amount of stress that you're
Speaker 1: dealing with, that's the rest. There might be a certain
Speaker 1: lack of sleep as a result of you know whatever. Uh,
Speaker 1: you had too much to eating and now you're not sleeping. Well,
Speaker 1: that's something else that's going to affect it. Things like
Speaker 1: barametric pressure, temperature in the room, um, bio rhythms uh uh,
Speaker 1: you know, getting over a cold. There's just so many
Speaker 1: other things that affect our ability to be able to
Speaker 1: perform on a very high level. Sometimes Lebron James scores
Speaker 1: forty five points. Sometimes he doesn't, you know. Sometimes he
Speaker 1: wins games and sometimes the outright loses loses, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's just the nature. The very best in the
Speaker 1: world have their good days in bad but they show up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Then you get into one
Speaker 1: of the other laws when it's you know about consistency.
Speaker 1: Consistency is another one, or having a plan that's another one.
Speaker 1: They all kind of work together so that you know
Speaker 1: you're achieving the main goal, which is just doing your
Speaker 1: best in the moment, not judging what's happening, and being
Speaker 1: okay with the outcome and coming back the next day.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about that that law consistency reigns supreme.
Speaker 1: Give me some give me some examples of what you're
Speaker 1: talking about there. The more you do, the better you get.
Speaker 1: The more you do, the better you get. So if
Speaker 1: you if you're struggling with pull ups and and p
Speaker 1: ninet x or X three only has pull ups once
Speaker 1: or twice in the week in that cycle, then you
Speaker 1: have to be creative and you have to figure out
Speaker 1: when you can create other opportunities to work on your
Speaker 1: pull ups. And for me, it's handstands. I love trying
Speaker 1: to work on handstands. I really don't. I'm not able
Speaker 1: to hold them consistently, partly because I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: work on them enough. There's handstands aren't aren't involved in
Speaker 1: two of them my weekly workout. So I have to
Speaker 1: find some side time in the morning at the end
Speaker 1: of the day just to get upside down and see
Speaker 1: how along I can hold three or four handstands. Now
Speaker 1: I'm not consistent with that, and so that's the reason
Speaker 1: why I'm not getting better. You've got to be consistent
Speaker 1: with your diet. You've got to be consistent with your sleep.
Speaker 1: You've got to be consistent with with all the other
Speaker 1: things that you need to do in your life so
Speaker 1: that you can survive. I mean, it's funny. We're really
Speaker 1: consistent with the types of things, um that we know
Speaker 1: that we have to do so that we can be
Speaker 1: a normal human being in this country. So we get
Speaker 1: a certain amount of sleep, hopefully enough to be able
Speaker 1: to function the next day. And most of us are
Speaker 1: probably short on that, you know. And that's another chapter.
Speaker 1: But and so that's one number two. Geez, I'd better
Speaker 1: go to work if I want to have stuff and
Speaker 1: I want to be able to eat and I want
Speaker 1: to have shelter, and I want to be able to
Speaker 1: go out once in a while and go to a
Speaker 1: movie or go to dinner. You know. So obviously a
Speaker 1: job is super important to have, but you know, eating, breathing, work, Uh,
Speaker 1: these are this is standard fair that everybody. Most people,
Speaker 1: obviously most folks who aren't in real trouble maybe would
Speaker 1: not being able to find a job, or somebody who's
Speaker 1: homeless or something. We're talking about the average person who
Speaker 1: at least has a job and and can feed themselves
Speaker 1: and have a car or have a form of transportation.
Speaker 1: But most of those folks are in survival mode. They're
Speaker 1: just in pure survival mode. There really isn't the level
Speaker 1: of joy and enthusiasm and adventure in their life that
Speaker 1: they that I think a lot of them would like
Speaker 1: to have. So if you're consistent and you're willing to
Speaker 1: work hard to get better, because consistency, If you if
Speaker 1: I'm working out three days a week, that's not consistency.
Speaker 1: Even if you think working three days a week every week,
Speaker 1: consistency is gonna consistently, it's going to do something, it's not.
Speaker 1: It means that if you're taking four days off and
Speaker 1: the four days away from exercise and good diet are
Speaker 1: gonna certainly win over the three days that are on.
Speaker 1: So consistency is more days on and off. And I'm
Speaker 1: even talking more than four days a week, so I'm
Speaker 1: talking about five and six days a week. I plan
Speaker 1: workouts seven days a week. I have a workout planned
Speaker 1: out seven days a week, and I know I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna hit it all seven days. I'm gonna miss three
Speaker 1: or four sometimes five in the course of a month.
Speaker 1: But if I have seven planned, my odds go way up.
Speaker 1: And so that way I could be consistent, not only
Speaker 1: miss maybe one or two at the most during the
Speaker 1: course of a week. And then that means I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get about twenty two days in at the end of
Speaker 1: the month. I can get my twenty two to twenty
Speaker 1: five days into exercise in the course of a thirty
Speaker 1: day month average. I'm gonna see gains, They're gonna feel good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay flexible and get more flexible. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stay strong, My endurance is going to be great, and
Speaker 1: the years they're gonna are gonna keep clicking by. But
Speaker 1: that level of consistency without judgment doing your best and
Speaker 1: forgetting arrest, well, it means that you're going to improve,
Speaker 1: and most people after the mid twenties do the opposite
Speaker 1: of that. They don't improve. They start to go in
Speaker 1: to decline because they're not generating enough new muscles and
Speaker 1: cells and tissue and ligaments and you know, stimulating the
Speaker 1: blood in the oxtin and through fitness. They're just they're
Speaker 1: just going to work and they're just driving their car
Speaker 1: and going to the movies and haven't dinner, and then
Speaker 1: they posture starts to get bad, and then you know,
Speaker 1: and then there's the arteries around their their hearts start
Speaker 1: to you know, fill up with cholesterol, and then they're
Speaker 1: vulnerable in there. Who knows as early as their late thirties, forties, fifties,
Speaker 1: sixties and seventies to Alzheimer's and Parkinsons and cancer and
Speaker 1: heart attack and high pertension, diabetes and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And why is there a healthcare crisis in this country.
Speaker 1: It's not because the guns, shot wounds, broken bones and
Speaker 1: car accidents. It's because we do not move and we
Speaker 1: do not eat right. That is plain and simple. That
Speaker 1: is the number one reason why there's a healthcare crisis,
Speaker 1: and the two things that we can control, how we
Speaker 1: move and what we eat, would fix it in half
Speaker 1: a year if everybody signed on. That's it. I'm over.
Speaker 1: I'm part of the problem. I'm gonna do what Tony says.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to judge it. I'm just gonna do
Speaker 1: my best and forget the rest. And for the first month,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk around the block because before i would
Speaker 1: just sit in my button watch TV. And I'm also
Speaker 1: going to be consistent with that. I'm gonna do that,
Speaker 1: not once or twice a week. I'm gonna do some
Speaker 1: kind of movement five to seven days a week, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden the healthcare crisis goes away. Yep.
Speaker 1: That's a great point you make there, which is about that, um.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to start by by walking around
Speaker 1: the block because that consistency is so important. You know.
Speaker 1: I always say a little bit of something is better
Speaker 1: than a lot of nothing. So it's better to do something, um,
Speaker 1: than to continue to do nothing. And what you're pointing
Speaker 1: at there is it's okay to start smaller, start easier.
Speaker 1: We don't all have to start at at the same point.
Speaker 1: What's important is to start absolutely right. I think what
Speaker 1: happens to a lot of people and the reason why
Speaker 1: their greatest intentions in the world try not to be
Speaker 1: a failed attempt. It is because they get caught up
Speaker 1: in some sort of a trend or some something that
Speaker 1: fits beyond their ability on their physical um uh ability.
Speaker 1: And so you know, your friends are all doing a
Speaker 1: spinning class or a soul soul cycle class, and you
Speaker 1: get in there and you're ten minutes thing. You feel
Speaker 1: like your hearts canna burst. You weren't ready, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, so what do you? So? You have two
Speaker 1: options a be discouraged and not do anything, or be
Speaker 1: try something else, or try something else. And it's really
Speaker 1: that simple. And so everybody else is like, hey man,
Speaker 1: why are you doing a ten minute workout that doesn't work? Well,
Speaker 1: it's beaten the living crap out of the zero minute
Speaker 1: workout that I used to do before. You're right, A
Speaker 1: whole lot of a little is beat the crap out
Speaker 1: of a whole lot of nothing. And so your only
Speaker 1: job is to say yes to something, and if it
Speaker 1: doesn't work, you say yes to something else. And that
Speaker 1: doesn't work, you say something, you say yes to something
Speaker 1: else and you just keep saying yes. I mean the
Speaker 1: fact that whatever you've tried maybe didn't resonate with you,
Speaker 1: was too hard, overwhelmed, you got you injured. That just
Speaker 1: means that you picked the wrong thing. It doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you're a failure. It doesn't mean you don't try again.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just crazy. And that's that's all I'm
Speaker 1: telling people to do. So I had P n I
Speaker 1: D X X two UM, and I also had tim
Speaker 1: and a trainer, and I have power and I have
Speaker 1: P ninety and I have power nine D. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've created enough programs. And let's say you're a Tony
Speaker 1: Horton fan and you like my stuff. It's not like
Speaker 1: you don't, not like you don't have options. You've got
Speaker 1: tons of options. And so um, if walking around the
Speaker 1: block and maybe getting off the donuts just so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I'm gonna need everything except for the
Speaker 1: donuts thing that I'm hooked onto, you know, five or
Speaker 1: six a day, or maybe I'll go from five cups
Speaker 1: of coffee down to three. You know, these aren't massive changes,
Speaker 1: and we're not telling people that. You know, we need
Speaker 1: you to quit smoking, go vegan and do p nin
Speaker 1: d X six days a week for the next two years.
Speaker 1: You know, we just we just overwhelm ourselves with techniques
Speaker 1: that are beyond us and we don't have to. I
Speaker 1: didn't start that way. I went to the Remember the
Speaker 1: first time I went to the gym when I was
Speaker 1: moved out to California, and I hadn't really been in
Speaker 1: the gym. I mean, I've played tennis and golf, and
Speaker 1: I skied and I and I would do push ups
Speaker 1: in my basement, but I didn't really know about all
Speaker 1: these machines and all these classes. And I remember the
Speaker 1: first time going in there and just following somebody I
Speaker 1: you know, somebody I met, and he goes out righting
Speaker 1: through this routine and I went into the locker room
Speaker 1: and threw up because I didn't I didn't know his pace,
Speaker 1: I didn't know I couldn't lift his weight in here.
Speaker 1: I am. I'm lucky. I didn't, you know, tear the
Speaker 1: laborom in my shoulder or jack my lower back or something.
Speaker 1: I just I was working too fast and too furious
Speaker 1: for the state of fitness I was in. And I
Speaker 1: went into the locker room and threw up, And so
Speaker 1: I was, you know, wise enough to come back and say, hey,
Speaker 1: let's not do that again. Let's can we slow things
Speaker 1: down and let's let's wait and and ease our way
Speaker 1: into it. And he was a cool guy and he said, yeah, sure, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry about that. And that's why when you
Speaker 1: look at my programs, there's there's three versions. There's three
Speaker 1: gears that you can put your body through. There's you know,
Speaker 1: there's a extreme gear and the modified gear in the
Speaker 1: one in between. And so if you're smart enough and
Speaker 1: you're not trying to compete with the people who've been
Speaker 1: through the program, you know, three times through test groups
Speaker 1: and are you know athletes and you just you know,
Speaker 1: you're a mother of four who's thirty five years old,
Speaker 1: hasn't worked out since high school, and you used to
Speaker 1: not use the modified version of whatever exercise I'm showing you.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine. You're not gonna go into your
Speaker 1: bathroom and throw up and you're gonna come back and
Speaker 1: want to do it the next day. So yep, that's that,
Speaker 1: you know, forgetting the rest part is all that comparisitting
Speaker 1: around everybody else is how I should be. Just be mellow.
Speaker 1: I mean, I might at a conversation with my sister
Speaker 1: the other day. She said, yeah, I just can't run anymore.
Speaker 1: I know, And I said, I know you're fifty, but
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't run consistently enough so that
Speaker 1: your body is used to the pounding, you know, you
Speaker 1: a you probably want to switch out your shoes because
Speaker 1: I know you're running the same shoes all the time.
Speaker 1: So just switch the shoes out, created a new cushion,
Speaker 1: try to keep off the sidewalk in the cement and
Speaker 1: run on run on grass, and go to a track
Speaker 1: and just don't run as far or as fast as
Speaker 1: you used to. You can't compare you'll run today having
Speaker 1: not run in three years or consistently in the last
Speaker 1: three years, to how you and three years ago. It
Speaker 1: just it just doesn't make sense. You know. I'vemb We're
Speaker 1: running at the ful A track for on and off
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, and only just now two
Speaker 1: years in and my feeling like I've got the technique
Speaker 1: and the stride and the stamina and the endurance to
Speaker 1: be able to get through these track workouts without feeling
Speaker 1: like both my hand strings are going to explode. It's
Speaker 1: just taking it slow and taking it easy and not
Speaker 1: comparing myself to everybody else who's there. I'm just doing
Speaker 1: my best forgetting my rent, forgetting the rest, and showing
Speaker 1: up to that track consistently without being attached to whatever
Speaker 1: outcome I hope happens. That's just you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, if you've got some kind of
Speaker 1: belligerent coach who's screaming and yelling at you in the
Speaker 1: football team, you're gonna end up in one of three places.
Speaker 1: You're gonna end up on the first string, second string,
Speaker 1: or the special teams, not based on your on your
Speaker 1: on your fitness, or your athleticism, based on what the
Speaker 1: where the coach thinks you should go, based on your performance,
Speaker 1: you know, during practice. And that why I end I
Speaker 1: ended up on the practice squad because my coaches, you know,
Speaker 1: they would find the best athletes, the best coach once
Speaker 1: prior to our arrival at the high school level. And
Speaker 1: you know, I just I just came in too late.
Speaker 1: I wasn't very big, I wasn't terribly athletic, and it's
Speaker 1: it's a miracle that I've made the team. I rarely
Speaker 1: I think I played five downs an entire season. Um,
Speaker 1: it was a great lesson. For me, it taught me
Speaker 1: how not to train people, because that doesn't get the
Speaker 1: best out of people. That just categorizes folks based on
Speaker 1: you know, some arbitrary thing um. And and that's why
Speaker 1: I do it differently. That's why I wrote the book.
Speaker 1: What lesson? Do you think it has taken you the
Speaker 1: longest to learn in your life? Oh? This question, Gen,
Speaker 1: It's back not to freak out, not to freak out
Speaker 1: about things. You know. I and my father's son, My
Speaker 1: father was God bless him, you know, he would he
Speaker 1: would really let things spin him around, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And I just need to let things move
Speaker 1: in in uh, in a very organic natural way, and
Speaker 1: be okay with the outcome. And I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: the physical so much that the fitness thing I have down,
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about building businesses, or dealing with with
Speaker 1: certain personalities, or being involved and maybe a project that
Speaker 1: seems to sort of overwhelm me. Um, and just making
Speaker 1: sure that I'm prepared for things more. That's a less than.
Speaker 1: I still need to learn to be a better listener,
Speaker 1: to be more patient, and and to be okay with reality,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, that's why that's in the book,
Speaker 1: Reality is that thing that's actually happening to you as
Speaker 1: opposed to your your convoluted perception of it, you know.
Speaker 1: And so what is actually happening you know, Well, what's
Speaker 1: happening right now? You and I are on a call
Speaker 1: right Eric, and we're having a conversation. So it's up
Speaker 1: to me to just listen to the question, be as
Speaker 1: authentic and honest as I can be and uh and
Speaker 1: not trying to enhance it or perform or or being
Speaker 1: anything other than I am, you know. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you have my fitness DVDs, you know, I'm a bit
Speaker 1: of a fitness clown. I'm a little bit animated, but
Speaker 1: I have more than one gear, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I and in this conversation with you is a more
Speaker 1: serious one based on my experiences, my beliefs, and what's
Speaker 1: in the book. And so UM, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people are you know, there's the person that we
Speaker 1: are and the person that we want to be. Quite often,
Speaker 1: and it's very rare that the person that you are
Speaker 1: is the person that you want to be. And so
Speaker 1: the eleven laws that will change your life from the
Speaker 1: big picture are desig mind to um bring those two
Speaker 1: things together so that the person that you want to be,
Speaker 1: uh is the person that you are uh to everyone
Speaker 1: around you, you know, and instead of the smoke and
Speaker 1: mirrors version of you. You know, I can't tell how
Speaker 1: many people that you look at them on the surface
Speaker 1: and you think, man, they really got their act together.
Speaker 1: But we get a little bit of investigation, you learn that, man,
Speaker 1: their life is chaos. They're out of control. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: going bad at work. Their relationship with their wife, her
Speaker 1: husband is bad. Their kids hate them. Um, they're eating
Speaker 1: and drinking in the ways they shouldn't be. There's no
Speaker 1: exercise in their life whatsoever. Man, when you're on the surface,
Speaker 1: they seem great. So you know that they don't want
Speaker 1: to be that shadow version of themselves. They want to
Speaker 1: be the person uh you know that they've always wanted
Speaker 1: to be. They want to have their act together. They
Speaker 1: want to feel good. They want to they want to have,
Speaker 1: you know, some hobby that really inspires and excites them.
Speaker 1: They want to have a great relationship with their spouse.
Speaker 1: They want to be able to relate to their kids
Speaker 1: on the level so that their kids are more of
Speaker 1: their friends and than than their enemy, you know, And eisier.
Speaker 1: Either's that all takes work, It all takes effort, It
Speaker 1: all takes uh, you know, re educating yourself. Um and
Speaker 1: quite often, you know, most of us just stop learning
Speaker 1: after high school and college and we take all these
Speaker 1: you know, thoughts that are aging. Our thoughts and concepts
Speaker 1: and philosophies are aging as quickly as our you know,
Speaker 1: our our mind and our body. And you know, there's
Speaker 1: new phones out to keep your old wanting to figure out.
Speaker 1: You know, you can get a smartphone, you get to
Speaker 1: keep the foot phone, but flotphone is going to work
Speaker 1: for you very well, and you're not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to communicate and do the things everybody else is doing, um,
Speaker 1: you know. And so either buy the new phone and
Speaker 1: figure it out, or you live in the past. And
Speaker 1: it's that way with diets, that way with exercises, that
Speaker 1: way with with everything you know and the world's evolving it.
Speaker 1: If you're not willing to evolve with it, then you
Speaker 1: are going to be at two extreme levels as to
Speaker 1: who you are, the person you are and when you
Speaker 1: want to be and will never come together unless you're
Speaker 1: going to learn you better, how to grow and how
Speaker 1: to change excellent well Tony, thanks so much for taking
Speaker 1: the time to talk with us today. IVE really enjoyed
Speaker 1: the conversation and I enjoyed the new book, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate you being willing to do this again. Well, Eric,
Speaker 1: my pleasure. I know we had some technical difficulties, yes,
Speaker 1: but the first time we chatted, all my answers were wrong.
Speaker 1: Put them all up, no truth in any of them. Um,
Speaker 1: I would hide the kite. No, you're not kidding. That
Speaker 1: would have been fun. But now I don't think that
Speaker 1: was an interview. But no, I'm glad we're able to
Speaker 1: redo it. And uh and I hope folks enjoy I
Speaker 1: enjoy talking with you. I like your questions. Quite often
Speaker 1: you get sort of the same, you know, ten questions
Speaker 1: all the time, and you had some really unique one
Speaker 1: make me think, you know, you keep me on my
Speaker 1: toes and that's a good thing. All right. Well, thanks
Speaker 1: so much, Tony, I appreciate it. Have a great afternoon too, Eric,
Speaker 1: Bye bye. M You can learn more about Tony Horton
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