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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, This is George. Even though we are still

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Speaker 1: on our famous summer hiatus, we have a special treat

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Speaker 1: for you this week, which is that we are unpaywalling

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Speaker 1: I repeat, unpaywalling our Patreon Movie Club episode that we

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Speaker 1: released earlier this year when the film Madam Webb came

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Speaker 1: out with our dear friend Max Twitter, and we are

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Speaker 1: doing it now because the movie is actually now streaming

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Speaker 1: on Netflix. So even if you chose not to support

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Speaker 1: cinema by going in person the first time around, you

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Speaker 1: can now watch along with us at home. Also, very quickly,

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Speaker 1: just wanted to say that there are just three days

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Speaker 1: left on my summer stand up tour DC this Saturday,

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Speaker 1: August seventeenth, Philly August twenty second, and Boston August twenty ninth,

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Speaker 1: and I think DC is about to sell out, so

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Speaker 1: get those tickets fast that I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: you out there. And for more episodes like the one

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Speaker 1: Patreon dot com slash Stradio Lab for two extra episodes

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Speaker 1: a month, plus other surprises and goodies. I feel like

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Speaker 1: it all right, Enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: Patreon episode starts now exclusive, exclusive exclusive episode starts now.

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Speaker 1: We saw a special advanced screening of the Marvel film

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Speaker 1: Madam Webb mired days after premiered wide.

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Speaker 3: To wait to a booming six million dollars to.

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Speaker 1: A booming six pillion dollars. From what I understand, it

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Speaker 1: was absolutely bodied by the Bob Marley biopic.

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Speaker 2: And you would understand correctly, Madam web has been destroyed

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Speaker 2: by the Bob Marley pick. But gay guys are doing

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Speaker 3: And I think we're doing everything we can to stop

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Speaker 3: Bob Marley.

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Speaker 1: We actually were mostly against Bob Marley. If anything, it

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Speaker 1: could have been any movie. If it was you know,

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Speaker 1: mister and I would also be supporting it.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, where's the like we need like a Barbenheimer,

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Speaker 3: like a Madam Barley Weekend Marley Webb, mar Marley Webber.

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Speaker 2: So today we're joined. It's an extra social episode because

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Speaker 2: we're joined by Max Wittard Himahi, who saw the film

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Speaker 3: I liked Madam Marley.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we could do Madam Marley.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to be Madam Marley?

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Speaker 3: Or well, no one wants to be Madam Marley. What

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Speaker 3: one simply assumes the responsibility of Madam Marley.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to write an AI generated script that's like

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Speaker 1: if Bob Marley was Madam Webb. So it's like he

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Speaker 1: goes out in the concert and then he suddenly seasoned

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Speaker 1: in the future and he's like, they're gonna like that

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Speaker 1: one song. So no one's steal that idea.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, yeah, I promise I won't.

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Speaker 2: Okay off, fuck off. First I want to say, Max,

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Speaker 2: will you give us a summary of the film Madam web.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, first of all, you guys are listening to

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Speaker 3: stradio at Patreon with Max Whiddert as the special guest,

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Speaker 3: which actually has you guys just breeze right over that.

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Speaker 2: I said your name, didn't I? No, Yeah, I did,

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Speaker 2: so I had.

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Speaker 1: To say Max, you started talking before we had a

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Speaker 3: It's not my fault you jumped the gun.

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Speaker 2: There, Max, We were just yes anding your entry. Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 2: someone us have improv training that we can't just turn

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, whereas I have improv training that is always

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your dormant improv training. It hasn't been awoken yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you do know that I took a bunch of improv, right,

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Speaker 3: and not an ounce of it stood.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that the cast of Madam Webb has

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Speaker 3: the Groundlings.

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Speaker 1: Right, well, because one of the things we saw it

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Speaker 3: Well, the to me, I don't even know what part

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Speaker 3: Okay, picture this. It's two thousand and three on the dot, and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a girl with bangs who has captured

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Speaker 3: She thinks her mom is a bitch because she died

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she basically is like, my stupid fucking mom didn't

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Speaker 1: Well, at one point, she literally goes hope the spiders

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not a lot of people talking to each

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's an empty and then she gets into

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Speaker 3: Exactly the accident, right, she has a near death experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So of like Max's improbabilities are asleep within him.

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Speaker 3: I always need you think I need to die. You

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Speaker 1: And Max, if you could just be if you could

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Speaker 1: I could resuscitate you by doing CPR, which was explained

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Speaker 1: literally fifteen million times. Yeah, then you can do it.

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Speaker 1: That really the villain.

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Speaker 3: The villain, And this is where it really picks up.

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Speaker 2: The villain keeps having a vision of getting murdered by

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Speaker 1: And the villain, we should also say, was literally working

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Speaker 3: Before she died and killed well before she died. That's

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Speaker 1: I killed her time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, he kills her.

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Speaker 3: Wait, he's not a womanizer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He has sex with a woman for information for her

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Speaker 3: No, No, he has sex with her because he likes her.

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Speaker 3: But then he starts talking about some personal issues and

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Speaker 1: No, he sought her out because well they're sort of

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Speaker 3: Kind of yeah, So to me, that does not qualify

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Speaker 1: A star those girls. Okay, so he basically I mean

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Speaker 1: Cut to two thousand and three. He himself who has

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Speaker 3: He's a sticky boy.

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Speaker 1: He's a sticky boy. So he has these recurring visions

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Speaker 1: And one of them is the White Lotus is Sidney Sweeney.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna hire Shoshana from Girls, give her

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, Basically everything he does is because he

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Speaker 2: It's a post nine eleven narrative.

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Speaker 1: It's about the Patriot Act.

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Speaker 2: Then this coworker of Madam Webb's dies because and she

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Speaker 1: The guy O'Neill.

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Speaker 2: O'Neill, O'Neill dies, and she like feels bad because she

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Speaker 2: And then she's like, Okay, I'm going to go to

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Speaker 3: And she's like, yes, that's right, Okay, that's right. And

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where she staves the pigeon's life. And then she's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: So she goes to the train station to go to

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, they're all in Queen's by the way. Yeah,

443
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: it's it's giving Aquafina, which is Nora and Queen.

444
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

445
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: So then but she goes back, She gets back to

446
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: Adam Scott's house and Queen's they're gone again because there

447
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 2: because Emma Roberts is giving birth to now know is

448
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: Peter Parker. So then she gets a vision of them

449
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 2: getting attacked, goes and saves them. It's hits Spider Guy

450
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 2: with her car again. She's hit him with her car twice.

451
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: How did she even get up there? How is she

452
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: able to? I mean that makes nose. The point is

453
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: whatever it all results in, like a big chase scene,

454
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: final battle, final bat that is at the Pepsi Cola headquarters.

455
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: And we should mention the full title of this film

456
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: is Pepsi Presents Madam Web. Yeah.

457
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's at the Pepsi headquarters. It's full of weapons

458
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: and explosives and they use it to destroy the bad guy.

459
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: And she's finally able to use her powers as Madam

460
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 1: Web by basically splitting into three little ghost versions of herself,

461
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: each of which saves one of the teens that she

462
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: is now mothering.

463
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: Did you guys want a Pepsi after this movie? Or

464
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 3: where you sort of scared of Pepsi's.

465
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 2: I was actually so grossed out by Pepsi after.

466
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 3: It really kind of freaking me out.

467
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's interesting is that we went there

468
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: and I had this dream that I was going to

469
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: get a diet Pepsi because that's all that's available at

470
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: Regal cinemas. And unfortunately the line was so long that

471
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to And I don't even remember, honestly,

472
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: the last time I went to a movie without aesta

473
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: like it might it might be like six years. So

474
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: the fact that this movie happened to be quite literally

475
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: sponsored by Pepsi and there was a Pepsi in every scene.

476
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 3: And we could not get it, and we could not

477
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: and we.

478
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: Could not get a Pepsi. I'm like, I'm being convinced

479
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: by this advertising and I want one, but it is

480
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: impossible for me to get one.

481
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. That yeah.

482
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, the final part, Yeah, the

483
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 3: final part.

484
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 2: So she has this battle, she gets injured. In the

485
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: big battle, he dies, She gets injured. She wakes up

486
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: in the hospital, her eyes are covered. She uh. The

487
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: person the nurse comes in is like, do you need

488
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: anything or oh, are you immediate family? And she goes, yeah,

489
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 2: we are, and I have everything I need right here

490
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: in this room.

491
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: And then it turns out absolutely nothing.

492
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. So now she's surrogate mother to the three teens.

493
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: They all live together as a chosen family in an

494
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: attic space in an attic space and it actually is

495
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: sort of like amazing, like steampunk williamsburg lofft mind.

496
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: You, mind you? If I recall correctly, I think the

497
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 3: three girls take stairs to get up. Meanwhile, she's in

498
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 3: a wheel chair in an attic space that is only

499
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: accessible by chair by stairs.

500
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: The girls are doing fully like elder abuse of a

501
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: person with disabilities. They don't let her leave the house.

502
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like moonshouse in by proxy, by proxy.

503
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: And then she's just wearing Gucci sunglasses.

504
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: Well yes, I mean, and then at the end she's like,

505
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna be like fashion icon wheelchair blind wheelchair

506
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: fashion icon. So I'm gonna have like crooked love sunglasses.

507
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to be in a wheelchair that is approximately

508
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: sixteen feet tall.

509
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, they bring in Chinese food

510
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: and they're like, we got takeout, and she's like, and

511
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: mind you with her like blind sungnglasses on, she turns

512
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: around and she goes cut chicken, right, and they're like,

513
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: how did you know? And she's like, and the implications

514
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 3: because she can see the future in your future, but

515
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: of course she could also hypothetically probably smell the present,

516
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,959
Speaker 3: right right.

517
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, her other senses are also heightened.

518
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: I also love when she's like bless you and the

519
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: girls like I didn't thank you.

520
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

521
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: Also, by the way, that is annoying, Like that's annoying

522
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: to say that before someone sneeze. You're making things more complicated,

523
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: just like wait for and then you can say it

524
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: just wait right.

525
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: Well, she's still I mean ultimately, you guys have to

526
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 3: remember that she was in the foster care system, so

527
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: she's still trying to prove herself on some sort of

528
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: like existential level that she's worthy. You know, she has

529
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: a lot of she has a lot of problems.

530
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 2: Well, this movie, this movie was basically about how women

531
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 2: should be.

532
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: Mothers exactly or daughters or daughters.

533
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: That's the binary. Yeah, are you a mother a mother

534
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: or are your daughter?

535
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: We should say at the end, there's a split truly,

536
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: like thirty second part where we see what they will

537
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: ultimately become with the superheroes, and we see them with

538
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: their costumes and they're fighting crime and they're fighting immoral

539
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: men as powerful women.

540
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: You know, what's do you know what's so interesting that

541
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,239
Speaker 3: I kept thinking about is that like a lot of

542
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: the most high voltage, high production moments of this movie

543
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: happened in like less in a second during like flash

544
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: forwards to totally totally future. And so I think that

545
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: probably the majority of the production budget went into moments

546
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: that I didn't last forwards cumulatively for more than like

547
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 3: five seconds. Yet the movie interspersed.

548
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: Well, it is so like a prequel to a prequel,

549
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: Like it.

550
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: Was insane to show like what will come and not

551
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: have it like they show what will come very early

552
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: on and you're like, oh, cool, that's where we will

553
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: be by the end of this movie. That is not

554
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: the case at all being of this movie now.

555
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: Because the visions that Sticky Man has are of the

556
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: three teens in costume and actually Sidney Sweeney looks sort

557
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: of amazing in her It's.

558
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: Great, she looks incredible. What well, what did we What

559
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: did we think of the film?

560
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't I loved it.

561
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it as well. I was so deeply tickled.

562
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: I like was thinking about it all day yesterday after.

563
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: Watching me how fun I really had such had such

564
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: a good time. I I was like, I read him. Yeah.

565
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: And it also, by the way, like I'm you know,

566
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: obviously it is a bad movie. So to speak. I'm

567
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: not like claiming it's Cosablanca, but like it. I read

568
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 1: some headline that was like, Madam Webb unfortunately is not

569
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: one of those movies that's so bad it's good, and

570
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes it is.

571
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know, it's exactly there.

572
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: This is exactly the kind of movie that is so bad.

573
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: It's good. Also, it is a very good screenplay in

574
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: terms of just like one thing leading to another, like

575
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: I was always engaged, I knew exactly where I was.

576
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: I well, that's it was. It was sort of tight.

577
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: I would say it's like an hour and forty five minutes.

578
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it's a good but you know

579
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: what I mean like it. Yes, there were parts that

580
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: didn't make sense if you thought about them too much,

581
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: but it is clear what is going on at every

582
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: given moment, what conflict was trying to be resolved.

583
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: Macare almost felt like it was written by children, Like

584
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: that's kind of how I feel where it was like.

585
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: I feel like it was written by us right now

586
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: on this pod.

587
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: Totally totally like yeah, but that's why I liked it.

588
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: It definitely felt like oh so then they like like

589
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: you know how like when you're writing, a problem comes

590
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: up and you're like, oh, how can I get that

591
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: from from there to there? It's like, Oh, they just

592
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: drive the cab they stole and yeah. Like they were

593
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: like really not sitting with the problems in the script

594
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: and just being like, oh, who cares? Who cares?

595
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: No, of course, I will say the part in the

596
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: train where she like keeps having many visions and is like,

597
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: how do I save these girls? I was like at

598
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: the edge of my seat. I was like, that.

599
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: Was like the best part of the movie.

600
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: Yes, agreed. I thought the dialogue just has this really

601
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: amazing wooden quality to it.

602
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: It's like people who have never heard people talk before

603
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: writing dialogue in a way that was so funny. It

604
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: was like hearing like a tried to speak English. Like

605
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: I was like like, like, this is so when she

606
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: does the line Okay, well we'll talk about some of

607
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: our some of the big ones, when she's like I

608
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: just want to go home and watch Idole, and it

609
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: was like, what, Like they're trying to get like the

610
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: two thousand and three specific of like people were loving

611
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: American Idol then, but I was like, but it's been

612
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: long enough that I don't remember people referring to it

613
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: as just idle, and I actually still feel like people said,

614
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: I want to watch American idol yeat.

615
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: George was really upset by the incessant use of the

616
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: word hangary.

617
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: Well, I was so annoyed by that.

618
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: Grey was so bad.

619
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: Hangary was invented in twenty fifteen, Like that is simply

620
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: not something people said in two thousand and three, and

621
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: it was said multiple times.

622
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: And it was Yeah, there was so much of that.

623
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: But also another thing with da coda with Madam Webb

624
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: is for approximately ninety percent of the movie, her answer

625
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: to everything is literally, I don't I don't know. Girls,

626
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. Girls.

627
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: That was They're like, who's doing this? Like I do,

628
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

629
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: She was like, shut up, girls, I don't know.

630
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: When she rescues them from the diner, they were almost killed.

631
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: She just ran her stolen car through the window of

632
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: a diner. And then she's like, they're like, we're so sorry.

633
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: That was crazy. She's like, yeah, that was crazy.

634
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Shut up.

635
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah wait, I actually.

636
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: Want to in terms of Sam what you were saying about,

637
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: how like if there's a problem, okay, what's the easiest

638
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: way out of it? One thing they did was she

639
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: would have a question about something and then she would

640
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: just have a vision that answered it. Like do you

641
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: remember when she sort of had like half a conversation

642
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: with Sticky Man where he just like explained the entire

643
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: plot of the movie. But it was sort of ghosts.

644
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: It was like, it's not like she even had a

645
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: flash forward or a flashback. She just sort of had

646
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: a vision of him being like, Okay, I'm Adam Webs,

647
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: so here's the deal, Like i'd at your mom.

648
00:31:53,640 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll just shout out to mister miss yours Dicky

649
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: who like who? During like his final scene, like okay,

650
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: she had during the final battle, they're on top of

651
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: the factory and he's in his like you know, little

652
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: like billionaire outfit where he's like, oh, I'm so powerful,

653
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: I can punch out any of these women easily. And

654
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: then she is having this vision of the s in

655
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: the PEPSI sign falling on him and she's like and

656
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: she keeps beckoning him literally saying come on, come on,

657
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: come on to a space. While he's like, what are

658
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: you doing. You're being so weird. I'm going to kill you.

659
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: She's like and she goes, come on, come on, and

660
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: she keeps looking at the s. She keeps looking up

661
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Speaker 3: at the s. He never once even thinks to glance

662
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: at what she's glancing at, you know, and just continues

663
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: to follow her, being like, I'm gonna kill you. Why

664
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: do you keep walking away?

665
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: Why she's literally crawling away? He could kill her in

666
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: that moment.

667
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: I mean, she's the way they think so slowly. He

668
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: had really strong powers. The scene in the transtation when

669
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: the girls are like running away from him and he's

670
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: literally killing every single police officer in the transation instantaneously

671
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: without hesitation, and then these girls He's like, well, I

672
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: can't touch them until I've killed every cop within a

673
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: mile radius. It's sort of like, just kill the girls.

674
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: Just stop focusing on the cops and kill the girls.

675
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: It seems like it's pretty easy for you.

676
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: By the way, for this to be essentially an origin

677
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: story for I mean both Madam Webb of course, but

678
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: also her three teens. We never see the three teens

679
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: gain their powers. We know that at some point she will, like,

680
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, do an ayahuasca ceremony as their mother and

681
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: have the spiders bite them, but we don't see that

682
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: at all, and when they're in trouble, they're not empowered

683
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: to save themselves as Madam Web with the power.

684
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: Is Madam Webb? Is she canonically the one that causes

685
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: Spider Man to be bitten by Spider too?

686
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: Oh?

687
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: Is she?

688
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: I only remember like from the cartoons her just sort

689
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: of being like a wise oracle type.

690
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: Oh, she's a wise oracle. Well, we should also say

691
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: that her name is Cassandra and her power is that

692
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: she can see the future. And not only that, but

693
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: her name is in fact Cassandra Web, and her powers

694
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: are seeing the future and being Madam Web.

695
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: Her power is being.

696
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: Well, this is the other thing kept saying is like

697
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: use the web, almost as if it's like like something.

698
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: Being is the Web sort of like it's this sixth sense. Yeah,

699
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: it's the world Wide Web literally like.

700
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 3: You literally she is the Internet.

701
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: She is the Internet. Is the Web sort of like

702
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: basically being able to travel through time and space kind

703
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: of I.

704
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: Felt like the web was like, yeah, I think time

705
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: and space.

706
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: I guess like time.

707
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like seeing time differently.

708
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Seeing time differently, it's the sixth Then she has where

709
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: she sees time differently, so sure so sure, yeah, So

710
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: it's interesting though, because I have to say, like the

711
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: connection between spider a spider web, and her web which

712
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: connects them all is purely metaphorical. She has no there's

713
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: nothing about her that is similar to Spider Man in

714
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: the sense that he can like actually act like a

715
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: spider Yeah.

716
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: No, is a sense of time.

717
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only the sense of time. And so what

718
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: the connection is just that they use the word web

719
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: to describe her unrelated non spider like power.

720
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 3: Well, but I mean they do both have a spider as,

721
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 3: their as the origin of their I guess you're.

722
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: Right, that's true.

723
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: But here's the question.

724
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: And also they mentioned early on that like some theas

725
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 3: have a sixth sense, which is the ability to almost

726
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 3: it seems, look into the future or something.

727
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: Spider Man though, just to go, so, Spider Man can

728
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: be Spider like but doesn't have the future sense.

729
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: He has very good reflexes. He has the Spider sense.

730
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: I see, I see, I see, so the.

731
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: Spider senses when.

732
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: It's a little bit related. Okay, okay, all right, well

733
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: then it checks out for me. We didn't even I

734
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit. Well, the two things

735
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: I had on that I just wrote were the two

736
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: thousand and three of it all, and then also the

737
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: ADR situation.

738
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to talk about the two and three

739
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: of it all. First of all, was like so clunky.

740
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: So I read there's a rumor that it was initially

741
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: set in the nineties, and they made a two thousand

742
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: and three in post, so all of the like the

743
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: giant poster for Beyonce's Dangerously in Love was very clearly

744
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: like photoshopped in after the fact. Obviously the line no

745
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: that was hand painted painted by Beyonce, The part where

746
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: she says, I'm going to go home and watch idle

747
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: clearly adr. The costumes I would not say are are

748
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: necessarily early odds or really anything, but.

749
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not really nineties either.

750
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: They're not really easy.

751
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 3: But there was a part where she was in these

752
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: high waisted, tight jeans that were very early like American apparel.

753
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: That's true a lot of but I think two thousand

754
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: and three would be like low waisted jeans.

755
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 3: Oh you would think that's true. That's the thing. It's

756
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: very confused.

757
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: Because American apparel to me is a little later. It's

758
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: not no, you're right, yea, yeah, yeah, No, I think

759
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: it was actually very much not two thousand and three. Wow,

760
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: what else? So Beyonce Dangerously in Love poster? There was

761
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: an old like Calvin kleinad I think or that was

762
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: like some sort of iconic two those three ad.

763
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: Well, when the girls were dancing on the table at

764
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: the Diamon, it was too toxic and the radio guy says,

765
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: and we done a new one from Britney Spears, and

766
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna like it.

767
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So maybe that's an art And unless that was

768
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: a reshoot, I guess that would be a sort of

769
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: counter argument to what I'm saying, because if toxic was

770
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: already in the script, that means it was always going

771
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: to be true.

772
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and she does say, she does say like

773
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: you love Britney Spears.

774
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: Come on, that's right, that's true.

775
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: That's true. But ad I want to say about the

776
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: ADR because you know, if you haven't seen this movie,

777
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: you think we're exaggerating. But I am being completely one

778
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: hundred honest when I say to you, you see someone

779
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: facing the camera and speaking, and they're they're the only

780
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: person you're seeing, and their lips are saying something different

781
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 1: than what is being said.

782
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: And in addition to that, and in addition to that

783
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: there there is a like plethora of scenes in which

784
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: someone is talking to someone else and the person that

785
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: is being shown on the screen is the recipient of

786
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: the information, not reacting at all to what's being said

787
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: to them by someone off green. For an extended period

788
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: of time.

789
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: This screenplay was essentially like not written until after the

790
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: film was shot.

791
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, which is why when Julio said

792
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 3: that he thought that it was all that a portion

793
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: of it was improvised. To me, it seemed like the

794
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: entire thing was improvised. It's like they had to shoot

795
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: the movie in order to pitch it to someone to

796
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: write it.

797
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you know, yeah, I mean the villain in particular,

798
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: so many of his lines were adr where I kind

799
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: of was like, I was like, one, am I going crazy?

800
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: Like is there something wrong with the movie? I was

801
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: like very very confused. And then I was like, oh,

802
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: maybe it's like a character choice where they're like he

803
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: maybe that's like part of his power?

804
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 3: Is he like I thought he sort of telepossedly Yeah, yeah,

805
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 3: like a spider.

806
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: Well also at first I was like, maybe it's an

807
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: aesthetic choice where like everything is happening in this dream

808
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: space where like you're sort of occupying both past, present

809
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: and future. I really like gave it the benefit of

810
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: the doubt, for I would say the first like twenty

811
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: percent of the film, and then I realized what was

812
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: going on. Also, Max, you made the point that, like

813
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: this would have been a great use of AI to

814
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: just like change the lips a little bit. I mean,

815
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: already the movie looks bad. It's not like you're gonna

816
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: make it look any worse. It's like, what's like.

817
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: What and what's two more million dollars to make that work?

818
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

819
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: I mean they what was the budget was? What like

820
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: eighty million or something?

821
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: Well, say Forrest.

822
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: Wait, let me look it up right now.

823
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: For a Marvel movie, the cast was you know, there

824
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: weren't necessarily a listers like this is.

825
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: I was gonna say the complet I was like, the

826
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 2: cast was so iconic.

827
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: No, No, it was iconic for I mean to I mean,

828
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: listen to have Shashana in there. Max. We can't see

829
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: your scream.

830
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 3: I know, I know eighty it's eighty million dollars eight millions.

831
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, so you guessed it perfectly or you had

832
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: already looked it up.

833
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: I must have seen the numbers.

834
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: Okay, No, the cast was of course iconic for our purposes.

835
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: But I think for like an actual superhero movie that

836
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: they're trying to sell with a list town like that,

837
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: just this doesn't compare to you know, the big ones.

838
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: So what do you But here's the question, here's the

839
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 3: big question.

840
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 2: At the end of it.

841
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: Why do you think that this movie didn't make the money?

842
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: Well one misogyny?

843
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: Well, okay, because I mean ultimately right, like, none of

844
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: the Marvel movies make sense, No one is compelling.

845
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think there's a lot of things going on.

846
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: First of all, they rushed this movie out after all

847
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: of the like animated Spider Man movies did so well

848
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: because there was like an appetite for more Spider Man

849
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: universe stuff, so they sort of rushed it out. I

850
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: think it screams to me, like, between the ad R

851
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: and the time shifting and everything, it screams to me

852
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: one of these movies that like there were too many

853
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: voices in the room and they just like couldn't get

854
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: it together to produce a product that makes sense. I

855
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: think there was a real misunderstanding about how bankable of

856
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: a bankable of a star Dakota Johnson is for the

857
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: average superhero audiences. Yeah, she does not. I say that I.

858
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: Didn't know who she was until this.

859
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: No, I knew who she was, but only from like,

860
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: I've never seen a movie she's in. I don't think where.

861
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: WO been in.

862
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: You guys have to see The Last Daughter.

863
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I have to see the Lost Daughter.

864
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: Okay, she the daughter Max.

865
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: Her big break well, first of all, she's famously Melanie

866
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: Griffith's daughter, and her big break was the Fifty Shades

867
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: of graand movies.

868
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: Oh and she.

869
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: She played on one of the shades. Yeah. Yeah, she

870
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: played one of the shades.

871
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah she Okay. The thing watching this movie, I was like, oh,

872
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: the person they wanted to cast was Jennifer Lawrence. It's

873
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: very like I'm a fuck up, I'm like relatable queen,

874
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: I'm like hot, but like blurb about it, it felt

875
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: so like they just like wrote it for Jennifer Lawrence

876
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: and then like, obviously she didn't want to do it.

877
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, I think that it's an the question.

878
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 3: Of no, no, she wouldn't have been. They wouldn't have

879
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: cast her in it because she was already mistake.

880
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point. So who I'm trying to.

881
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: Think, Wow, I came in sharp.

882
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: There is crazy, Okay. I have a question though, like

883
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: do we, like, where are we coming out on this performance?

884
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: Not to be you know, a sort of like gay

885
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: guy podcast, but I am like, I do think it

886
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: was sort of an incredible performance because she is making

887
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: fun of what she's doing while she's doing it the

888
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: whole time, the.

889
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: Entire I don't think she's making fun of it. I

890
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: think she's upset about it.

891
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like she's like, I don't think I don't

892
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: think she.

893
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 3: Has any sense of humor about him.

894
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: Being all can you believe this ship? Yeah? Yeah?

895
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

896
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: Well it's also just like again with the whole like,

897
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like that almost works on two levels.

898
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: It's like, on the one hand, the character doesn't know anything.

899
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: On the other hand, she's being like what is this?

900
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

901
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: Yeah here.

902
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: Well, even though like the story line of like her

903
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: not wanting to be a mother and then like her

904
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: being mother to the team totally it was like her

905
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: not it was like also her not wanting to be

906
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: in a Marvel movie, and by the end she's like,

907
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 2: I guess I really am in a Marvel movie.

908
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also her like not wanting to spend time

909
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: with those random girls. She was like, who are you guys?

910
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't even recognize And by the way.

911
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: I love that you guys think of her as like

912
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: becoming a mother to these girls, because first of all,

913
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: they're taking care of her by getting her food.

914
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: Secondly fun, she's clearly like funding, I mean, with her

915
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: giant salary as an EMT in post nine eleven New.

916
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 3: York, she's and then supporting and then not to mention,

917
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: not to mention, like in addition to her taking care

918
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: of that, they're also like all like fully grown.

919
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 1: No, so she's not so mother in high school?

920
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and she's like four years older than them

921
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: or something. They're like thirty two is she? But canonically

922
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 3: in this I don't think she's supposed to be two.

923
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: Oh I thought I thought in the movie they said

924
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: she was thirty two.

925
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: Really yeah, in real life she is thirty four.

926
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: Really yeah.

927
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: She looks great. I actually sort of gotta say I'm

928
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:11,959
Speaker 1: a huge fan of Dakota.

929
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: Johnson's No, I love her, I.

930
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: Enjoy I like her. I do think you asked about

931
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: our opinions on the performance.

932
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I want to know your and I, Yeah.

933
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: I do think it was sort of upsetting to watch

934
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: a lot of the time. Yeah, it was very It

935
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: was really uncomfortable to watch her have so much disdain

936
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: next to people that were like excited, yeah, to do

937
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 3: something that they didn't understand what they were doing.

938
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: So this is an interesting, I would say, like angle

939
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: of the whole like camp conversation, because normally what happens

940
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: with camp is you look at someone like Uma Thurman

941
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: and Batman and Robin it's someone trying so hard and

942
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: it falls flat. But this was the opposite of someone

943
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: not trying hard enough, someone like It truly is like

944
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: the opposite of a traditional camp performance. She's like barely performing.

945
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting that you think of it that way

946
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 3: because like so, so I tend to Yeah, I agree that,

947
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: like I tend to think of camp as failed glamour. Yes,

948
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: and I And in this scenario, I would argue that

949
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: the entire apparatus around her was like was the attempt

950
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: at the glamour. And she is kind of like the

951
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: film in a way because you know, because she's kind

952
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 3: of like.

953
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: Not so she makes the film camp, but her performance

954
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: is not camp or something.

955
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense to me.

956
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: Sort of by that logic. Yes, but but but I

957
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 3: do know what you mean where it's like there is something,

958
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 3: there is something sort of I don't know.

959
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: Well because the film itself. Also I understand why you're

960
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: saying the film is trying to be the glamor. But

961
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: the film also is so giving up on everything it's

962
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: doing halfway through, like again not really showing the superheroes.

963
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: It's so grounded.

964
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 3: Do you think she should be humiliated by this?

965
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: No?

966
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: No, I think this is for her.

967
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: I think no one actually should be humiliated by this,

968
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 2: except maybe like the Marvel Corporation. Yeah, Like, I actually

969
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: think I was pretty impressed with what Adam Scott was

970
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: able to do with his horrible part. I was pretty

971
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: impressed with Sidney Sweeney coming out like not looking stupid,

972
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: like almost looking like a victim of a bad movie

973
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: rather than like, yeah.

974
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: Herself, So Sidney Sween, like, the Sidney Sweeney performance is

975
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: exactly what a movie a superhero movie performance used to

976
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: be like, because you are playing a cartoon like, that's

977
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: the whole point. You're playing a comic book character, so

978
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: of course you're gonna be like an archetype. You're gonna

979
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: be like slutty teen or wise mother or whatever. Like

980
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, like just this idea that's.

981
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: Going to be a slutty teen or blind woman, or

982
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: like this idea that like.

983
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: Robert Downey Junior. Suddenly we're expecting like nuanced indie film

984
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: performances in superhero movies like Ruins all the fun.

985
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I thought, but that's exactly what she's supposed

986
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 3: to be, right.

987
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: I thought, Yes, yes, totally. Emma Roberts was kind of.

988
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: Eating as the role of pregnant lady. I was like,

989
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: she was like, she was like, what is so my

990
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 1: thing is that I'm pregnant? Got it?

991
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: She was like, I was like, this seems pregnant. This

992
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: is so lived in. Oh yeah, and her like we

993
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: have scene also.

994
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: The baby's hour scene we can talk about, but like

995
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: I want to fast forward to the scene where she's

996
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: being driven to the hospital and she's first of all,

997
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 3: she's okay. They decide she's her water has broken, and

998
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: so she Adam Scott and the three girls need to

999
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: go to the hospital together in the same car. And

1000
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: so the first decision that has made is that she

1001
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: needs to be shoved into the back of a two

1002
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: door car, and so they middled the seat and she

1003
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 3: hobbles in, yeah, to get in the middle seat of

1004
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 3: the in the back of this car. And then her

1005
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: reaction during the entire drive, where all he's doing is

1006
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 3: like speeding and cutting off cars and doing every illegal

1007
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: move possible, all she does is slap the seat and

1008
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: go and say go, go, go, come on, Like we.

1009
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: Have five minutes to get to a hospital in New

1010
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: York and it's like there's probably one clothes, like, yeah.

1011
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 3: She's in Queen's Astoria is made of hospitals.

1012
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: I will say wild in terms of the like cartoonishness.

1013
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: Something I really appreciated is that they kept Emma Roberts

1014
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: in a wig and full makeup as she was going

1015
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: to give birth, rather than trying to be like super

1016
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: hyperrealistic about it. And she's like sweating and crying or whatever.

1017
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's like, no, you're in a superhero movie.

1018
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: So you're gonna look the part, sweetie, and we're gonna

1019
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: do like one more little you know, sort of lip

1020
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: filler for the scene and then you're gonna look snatched.

1021
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean every single baby, at every freshly newborn

1022
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 3: baby that came out in this movie was dry. Yeah,

1023
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: and it was was dry and powdered.

1024
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: Even when the baby was born in a lake.

1025
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: In a lake, the baby came out dry and powdered. Yeah.

1026
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I want to talk about the baby shower

1027
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: scene because this was so funny to me. It was

1028
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: so many things trying to set up Dakota Johnson as

1029
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: like relatable and like sort of like smarty and like

1030
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: she doesn't do baby stuff. But she's like like wants

1031
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 2: to be grilling with the boys, and she's like a

1032
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: horrible mom because first she walks in and it's like

1033
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: critiquing the guy grilling for like how it's like not

1034
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: gonna have the flavor anymore yea.

1035
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 3: And everyone is so excited to see her. They're cheering

1036
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: when she walks in and all she does is criticize

1037
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 3: people and complain. She's just like me honestly.

1038
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: And literally.

1039
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 3: Get so excited to see all I do.

1040
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: She's like, you were having max a Max wittterd energy

1041
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: she does, but you're no, but you're more high energy.

1042
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's like it's you on a valium.

1043
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I mean to have this girl who

1044
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: you know has like never been to a normal person

1045
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: barbecue in her life, like to be like in a

1046
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: front yard in Queen's and be like, yeah, that's called

1047
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: fat and that's where the flavor comes from. I was like,

1048
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 2: this is crazy. And then also she's like the hand

1049
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: are like a crisp clear pepsi And she's like, do

1050
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: you have any beer? And he's like, actually, I think

1051
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 2: because you were almost had a near death experience, you're

1052
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 2: gonna be drinking.

1053
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: PEPs You're gonna be drinking a pepsi.

1054
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: And so she and then she and then she doesn't.

1055
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 2: She doesn't open it the whole time, holds she.

1056
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 3: Holds a dry can of pepsi. Pepsi.

1057
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: Sorry, she's the type of girl who like secretly doesn't

1058
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: know how to open a can. She's like, I never

1059
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: learned because I grew up in foster care. Like there's

1060
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: something garry, like it goes back to the whole I

1061
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: don't know thing. Yeah, she's sort of like how does

1062
00:51:58,239 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: this work?

1063
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: Like so then the baby shower, they're playing this game

1064
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: where you put like some memory of your mother or

1065
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: like a memory of being raised on a piece of

1066
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: paper and everyone like talks about it and it's like, wow,

1067
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: so true, and.

1068
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 3: They like pull it out of a hat or whatever.

1069
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: They pull it out of a hat and then they

1070
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: go who did this? And then everyone will be like,

1071
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: I did it. My mom always made me try to

1072
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: cookies whatever. So for hers, the Emma Roberts pulls out

1073
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: a blank one. Instead of being like, oh, this was

1074
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: a mistake, she's like who did this? Like instantly offended already,

1075
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 2: She's like, who put a blank one in? And then

1076
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: Madam Webb is like, I did I did my mother childbirth,

1077
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: which is actually really common, by the way, not that

1078
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 2: it will happen to you, but it does happen.

1079
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: All the time. You kept like digging a hole for herself.

1080
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: She was like, it could happen, but probably not to you.

1081
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: I mean it's post nine to eleven York, but you

1082
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: never know.

1083
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean that scene was so so insane

1084
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: and the way that all the girls were like mad

1085
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: at her instantly, and I like, this is genius writing.

1086
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: What did you guys think of Shashana? Loved her?

1087
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: What could she have possibly done differently?

1088
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: Well? So I read a review I sort of was

1089
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: like skimming some reviews, and one of them called her

1090
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: like horribly miscast, and I'm like, who do you want

1091
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: as the NSA agent if not just Shana.

1092
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like like all she ever is is like

1093
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: an abused assistant, right, Like that is he that's her

1094
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: type casting? Yeah, it's like totally I need an abused assistant.

1095
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought it was so goofy to watch,

1096
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: but in a way where I was like that almost

1097
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: made me feel like does this movie know what it's doing?

1098
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: Like this movie knew there would be gay guys watching

1099
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: ironically and get a guffaw when they see Shashana in

1100
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: the control room.

1101
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: Well, I also feel like.

1102
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: So the control room was just like his dinas, like

1103
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: a bunch of computers in it that she's always at.

1104
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter to day night she's there. Yeah.

1105
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: I also do think, like the way Girls did, Shoshana

1106
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: was sort of going into this kind of path because

1107
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: she was being such a girl boss and so like,

1108
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: all right, it's time to get serious, Like I've lived

1109
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: my twenties, it's time to like really join the NSA.

1110
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: And I actually do think it would make sense that

1111
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: she would like meet this guy at a party and

1112
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, this is like a good connection to

1113
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: have like in case he offers me a job and

1114
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: then it turns out her job is killing teenage girls.

1115
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like that. She was like, wait, you're

1116
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: gonna kill teenage girls but they're just teens, which one

1117
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, kill adult women, but don't kill teens.

1118
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: She's like, wait until they turn eighteen.

1119
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 2: Then murder them. And then he's like, well, they're teens now,

1120
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: but in ten years they'll be adults. And she was

1121
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 2: like She's like, oh, yeah, told them and kill them. Yeah, totally,

1122
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: I'll track them for you. Also, the thing about her

1123
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: webcne from them all and they're being this big thing

1124
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: of like, wait a minute, there's like the seam in

1125
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: the woods where it's like we're not all strangers. You

1126
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: saved my mother and I met you before, and there's like,

1127
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: oh my god, and you lived in my building and

1128
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: oh my god, you flipped me off that one time.

1129
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: And they had this whole thing of like this is spooky,

1130
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: like we all know each other sort of, and then

1131
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: did not matter at all. There was really no point.

1132
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 3: It was just like okay, and by the way, that's

1133
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 3: like that's just like New York. It's like, yeah, oh

1134
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: my god, but wait, no, I saw you at Key

1135
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: Foods six weeks ago. How is this possible?

1136
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, yeah, it didn't have sex five years ago.

1137
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I think the reason that possible is

1138
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: because we all live in a small, condensed neighborhood in

1139
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 3: New York City.

1140
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all have the same agent.

1141
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: It is sort of I mean, I guess it's sort

1142
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: of about post nine to eleven, everyone in New York

1143
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: City needing connection, like really leaning into finding connection.

1144
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 3: And you know what's sad about the Shoshana character, Yeah,

1145
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: is that she kind you know, she had a moral compass, right,

1146
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: she was feeling a little bit dubious about like helping

1147
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: him track down teenagers to kill. She didn't really like that.

1148
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 3: But then he was like here in her and said

1149
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: what would I what am I paying you for if

1150
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 3: you don't do this? And she's like, fuck, you're right.

1151
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: But then at the end, like he dies, so hypothetically

1152
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 3: she loses her source of income.

1153
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: Anyway, she is sort of the most tragic character because

1154
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: it actually is sort of like the banality of evil.

1155
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: She's the one doing like the behind the computer work

1156
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: of the murder.

1157
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: She's the zone of interest interest yeah, she's literally Sondra

1158
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: Huler and zone of interest.

1159
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 3: Sondra Huler and Shoshana need to be in a movie

1160
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 3: to girls to get Sondra.

1161
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: You know, Sondra would actually should join the Marvel Cinematic un.

1162
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Sondra should have been Madam Web.

1163
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, she would have been a great Madam Web. Oh,

1164
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1165
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, my Web, I don't know.

1166
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: Sometimes these things just happen to women.

1167
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I have a question. Was Sticky man hot?

1168
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, no, not.

1169
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: He like he had all the makings of a hot man,

1170
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 1: but then it somehow didn't add up. No, it really

1171
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: was not having hot he was. Oh my god, Yes,

1172
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: the other a man was hot. I agree, And I thought,

1173
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: I think Adam Scott has hot, but Max disagrees.

1174
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: I can't.

1175
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: I wish I was. Scott's hair wasn't so long.

1176
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that's complaint.

1177
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: But I thought the Aronha guy, I will like when

1178
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: we meet him in the in the seventies and he's

1179
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: like in this like barbed wire Web get up and

1180
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: it's like kind of spooky and cools.

1181
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: The house of Yes, make it mistick.

1182
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: I loved it. And then we cut to present two

1183
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: thousand and three, and she goes to Peru and he's

1184
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: now wearing like linen, like all linen, and I was like,

1185
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: this is keep it in the mystery zone. Like he's

1186
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: like you found me, and it's like, wait, so some

1187
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: days you dress up from J Crew and some days

1188
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: you're wearing just some twine. This is this makes no sense.

1189
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: So don't you think that when she went back, like

1190
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: the initial plan was for like a whole community to

1191
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: greet her, but they like didn't have the money for that,

1192
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: so they were like, whatever, just get that guy. We

1193
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: can't even do his costume right now. Put him in

1194
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: a blazer and like.

1195
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: And we're just gonna film this in the rainforest cafe.

1196
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1197
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1198
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: When she's like I'm going back to Peru, that was crazy.

1199
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: Well, she didn't even say that. She was like, wasn't

1200
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: she like, wasn't she Like There's something I have to do,

1201
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: but I don't know what. And then one of the

1202
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 3: girls was like, you have to go to Peru And

1203
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 3: then she was like, well.

1204
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: That is her sixth sense. She's like there's something.

1205
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: Her sixth sense is that is that she's like I

1206
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 3: don't know, but like something's up.

1207
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, which I do think is sort of relatable.

1208
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I too, I too have a sixth sense of

1209
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 3: being like, something's wrong in my life and I don't

1210
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 3: quite I know how to fix it.

1211
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is going on? I don't know. I don't

1212
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: don't know anything the whole movie.

1213
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: And she does have this like permanent look of confusion,

1214
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: which I also relate to.

1215
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: Remember. Okay, so another funny funny line is when she's leaving.

1216
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: Can you imagine I'm sorry, really quickly? Can you imagine

1217
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: being Dakota Johnson and like waking up in the morning

1218
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 3: and being like day nineteen. I mean, I should go

1219
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 3: into hair and makeup to continue being can you.

1220
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: Imagine how much of it? And I say this with

1221
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: oh my love, how much of a bitch she was

1222
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: to everyone on set for instead of this, oh.

1223
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: My god, horrific.

1224
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: Wait, I have asked a question, and sorry, Sam, I

1225
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: know we're coming up. This is in the Indie Wire review,

1226
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: and I want to hear if you guys know what

1227
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: it is. It says, I don't want to spoil the

1228
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: best moment of a film that only has about three

1229
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: good ones, So let's just say that Johnson manages to

1230
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: redeem one of the most gratuitous and worst written scenes

1231
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: in the history of superhero movies, with the joke so

1232
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: wildly morbid and perfectly delivered that the otherwise half conscious

1233
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: audience had my screening roared with laughter. I don't know

1234
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: what he's referring to.

1235
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: There were like two lines that she did that were

1236
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: like that.

1237
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: I remember one. Yes, I remember at one point turning

1238
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,439
Speaker 1: to you and being like that was a good line,

1239
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: rating like yeah, occasionally she will just like hit.

1240
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: Ultimately.

1241
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: Ultimately, it was funny when she tried to climb the

1242
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: wall and fell, like I thought that was like legitimately,

1243
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: Like I was like, okay, you're making fun of Do you.

1244
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 3: Remember a little bit I remember in like two thousand

1245
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 3: and like thirteen, where like every single comedy movie that

1246
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 3: came out was just like Women Falling Down.

1247
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, if there was a movie called Women Falling Down,

1248
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: I would be like.

1249
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: And it was also all of them were starring like

1250
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: bar Refelli, Like all of them were starting like sports

1251
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: illustrated models that needed to do a comedy.

1252
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 3: It needed to fall down.

1253
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, wait, I have no idea what the

1254
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: line is.

1255
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: I know it really was bothering me because I'm like,

1256
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 1: I don't even know who I would ask that would

1257
01:00:58,480 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: tell me.

1258
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 3: You could probably a Dakota Johnson.

1259
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we'll get her on the pod.

1260
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: Can you email that guy that Yeah, I'm going to

1261
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: email the guy. Okay. Well, the line I wanted to

1262
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: point out was when they're in the woods and they're leaving,

1263
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: and uh, she's leaving the girls and she says, don't

1264
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: do anything dumb. Then thirty seconds past and she goes,

1265
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: don't do dumb things.

1266
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: And then she's like, seriously, well, I think vast The

1267
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: part that Julia was saying seemed improvised. It was just

1268
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: sort of like she's saying that it doesn't hit as

1269
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: much as she wants. She's like, I guess let's try

1270
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: it again.

1271
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: Like that felt like pulled from like the Marvel Comedy

1272
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: Handbook and like this way where it was like, Dakota

1273
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 2: can't deliver whatever you intended for this, it's so out

1274
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: of place between.

1275
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 3: I really liked that line. I thought she did a

1276
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 3: really great job with that line.

1277
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: Actually, I really liked it so funny in a battle way.

1278
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 3: I thought it was like intentionally funny and successfully funny.

1279
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: Oh, well, agree to disagree.

1280
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: I really can't tell with her again, like whether or

1281
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: not she is giving such an incredibly complicated, weird performance

1282
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: or if it's truly just like she's tired and she's

1283
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: reading lines in whatever way occurs to her at any

1284
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: given moment, and it just is sort of inconsistent.

1285
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 3: I think the confusing part is because I think there

1286
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 3: are it's clear that there are little parts where she's

1287
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 3: having a bit of fun a hundred she's read, but

1288
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 3: she's really generally pretty upset during during the filmmaker, so

1289
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 3: and so most of it is just kind of unpleasant,

1290
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 3: but then there's fleeting moments where she's like, Okay, this

1291
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 3: is kind of funny.

1292
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: Whatever. Yeah, I can't.

1293
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 3: I'll ham it up for this second ultimately, but ultimately

1294
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 3: I can't let any I can't. I can't be vulnerable

1295
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 3: for this.

1296
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm telling you got to see The Last Daughter.

1297
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: By the way, Last Daughter sort of what Madam Web is.

1298
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: Oh really, but Maggie Gillen Hall plays Madam Web in

1299
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 2: that movie.

1300
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: Maggieja'll Hall is actually not in it. She directed it.

1301
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: Olivia Coleman is Madam Webb.

1302
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: That's what I meant Okay, that's it.

1303
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: Oliver Coleman actually would be a great Madam web like

1304
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: present day Like if if Dakota Johnson is her in

1305
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, present day Olivia Clem will be

1306
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: wise Madam Webb.

1307
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 3: I would love to see her in big shades rolling around.

1308
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, just being like gals.

1309
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. In the since becoming blind, she's getting like

1310
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 3: the British accent.

1311
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: Her other senses are heightened, and her other senses are

1312
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: being British or being British.

1313
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1314
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 2: Maybe she flew to England for a few years.

1315
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 3: Her sense of to Cora.

1316
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: Is heightened.

1317
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, wow wow.

1318
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 3: And by the way, we didn't even mention the four

1319
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 3: D seats.

1320
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes what I wanted to mention. Okay, Sam,

1321
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: go ahead.

1322
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: Well we roll up to the theater and I say,

1323
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: you know, oh, what is this? Are we seeing this

1324
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: four D? Surely not George bought iconic tickets.

1325
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: You kept giving me this classic Sam look of being

1326
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: like you fuck this one up, which sometimes you do give.

1327
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: Because first I had gotten five seats that were three

1328
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: in one row, two in another row. Because in my defense,

1329
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: when I went to go get the seats, those looked

1330
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: like the only ones that were available except if you

1331
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: wanted to be like in the first or second row.

1332
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: And then of course it became clear that it was

1333
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: four d X because that was the only time that

1334
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: we could all make.

1335
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 2: And for those that aren't cinophiles, that means the chairs

1336
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: shake and movie and are like on a roller coaster track,

1337
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: literally on a roller coaster. There's also a cool breeze

1338
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 2: that is blown on you in the middle of winter,

1339
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: by the way, and water water that sprays on you.

1340
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 3: Which by the way, like you know, I was not

1341
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: privy to any of this walking into the theater. All

1342
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 3: I saw was I walked up to my seat and

1343
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 3: it was extraordinarily sane. I mean, it looked like us.

1344
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: It looked like it truly looked like a fourteen year

1345
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 3: old had been like masturbating, eating like peanuts, and like

1346
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 3: Eminem's in this chair for like fourteen days on it.

1347
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: Masturbating while it's going like a roller coaster, yeah exactly,

1348
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: even going everywhere. Yeah, well he's watching.

1349
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 3: Madam Webb exactly, yeah exactly.

1350
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: Well, finally we found one row that didn't move, so

1351
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: we all we were like, you know, everyone else was

1352
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: like very excited for forty X and it was like

1353
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,439
Speaker 1: five bitchy gay guys being like, oh this is it's

1354
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: like Sam, your joke, how goosh? Yeah. I was going

1355
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: to be like, how gosh, We're going to the one

1356
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: row that doesn't move, But then of course that row

1357
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: still does have the water, so we all put our

1358
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: coats in front of the water sprayer.

1359
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 3: I was genuinely scared of the of the shaking of

1360
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 3: the chairs though, because during one of the commercials, like

1361
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 3: before the previews.

1362
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: You mean one of the seventeen commercials that each lasted

1363
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: five minutes.

1364
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 3: Yes, they like the the chairs. I was like rubbing

1365
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 3: my eye and then the chair shook and I like

1366
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 3: like I kind of like stabbed my eye with my

1367
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 3: own finger a little bit, and I was like, ow, okay,

1368
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 3: this is not safe for me. I need to like

1369
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 3: I need to be able to rub my eyes at

1370
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 3: any moment.

1371
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 2: When we were in the chairs and that it played

1372
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: for the ad and we were shaking and jiggling, I

1373
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: was like, I'm going to throw up.

1374
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1375
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: No, if we hadn't found the one row, I think

1376
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: we would have left. I don't know, I have to

1377
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: say I do think it was I should.

1378
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: Have disinfected my clothes after coming home.

1379
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: It was maybe the hardest I've laughed in a while

1380
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: is realizing that we were going to see Madam Webb

1381
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: in four DX. I like could not get over how

1382
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: insane that was also the way.

1383
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I thought it would be

1384
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: okay was because, you know, not to brag, but I'm

1385
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: a regal member, So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna

1386
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: make everyone pay twenty five dollars for this, but then

1387
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy them get them all a free soda,

1388
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: so it will all sort of even out. And the

1389
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: one thing we couldn't do, as I said, was get SODA's.

1390
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I also really appreciated George. Okay, so like,

1391
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 3: you know, the movies ostensibly was supposed to start at

1392
01:06:55,120 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 3: three forty and you know, come commercial fifteen and it's

1393
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 3: now like four fifteen PM or something, and George's like

1394
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 3: checking his watch because he has a dinner to get to,

1395
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 3: and like you were checking your watch after every single

1396
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 3: preview to see okay, I was going to know exactly

1397
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 3: starting well.

1398
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: I was also you know when you like, I think

1399
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: it's too late to go get a soda, but then

1400
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: there's like one more commercially like maybe now, maybe now,

1401
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: and then each time it's more proof that it's too late. Yeah,

1402
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: but then there were still six more.

1403
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they really should have like a ticker in the corner.

1404
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: It actually is really not that hard to be like,

1405
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: this is the exact movie, the exact time the movie starts.

1406
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 3: But also I will say that, like you could have

1407
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 3: gotten up during any point of that movie to get anything,

1408
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 3: I mean, for any amount of time and not have

1409
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 3: the not have it be like interrupted.

1410
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: Well, no, I don't care about the missing the plot,

1411
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: but there were certain moments that I'm I would have

1412
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: been mad if I missed. Yeah, yeah, it was.

1413
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: I mean, every single frame of that movie needs to

1414
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 2: be seen.

1415
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: I think that's what I mean when I said it

1416
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: was a good screenplay. Obviously, I don't mean it's a

1417
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: good screenplay. I just mean like there sort of wasn't

1418
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: a lot of padding, like it actually a lot happened,

1419
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: and and you were like interested to see what happened next.

1420
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was ready for it to be over.

1421
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: I was too, I was, Yeah, I was like all right,

1422
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: Like honestly, about forty five minutes in, I was like Okay,

1423
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: that was funny. Yeah, I knew the big fight scene

1424
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: was coming, and I was just like, I kind of

1425
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 2: don't want to.

1426
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 3: Have I don't need the big fight scene. Yeah, and actually,

1427
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 3: like the big fight scene was one of the less interesting.

1428
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 1: To Oh of course. Yeah, well it would have been

1429
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,480
Speaker 1: more interesting if hello, they had literally turned to superheroes

1430
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: halfway through so that they could be superheroes for the

1431
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: big fight.

1432
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 2: Literally no one had powers and they were just sort

1433
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: of scrambling around hoping that he didn't kill them instantly.

1434
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, talk about that is I would say

1435
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: the one flaw of the screenplay is like just keep

1436
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: it as is, but have them all accept their powers

1437
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: in the middle and then like have a real big

1438
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: fight scene.

1439
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 2: Also, like, how much more interesting if she's like, you know,

1440
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 2: mother to these children while they're like learning to have.

1441
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: Power exactly, and she's teaching them about their powers.

1442
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's way more fun. I feel. Yeah, we're not

1443
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 2: even necessarily teaching them, but it's like then it's like

1444
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 2: they can actually go swing away and she's like, you

1445
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: guys need to stay hidden, Like, but I want to

1446
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:20,879
Speaker 2: use my powers.

1447
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: Remember in the end, when she fell into the water

1448
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 3: and instead of like, instead of doing what like a

1449
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 3: normal human does, she just like kept sinking. She kept

1450
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: sinking really really literally made of like brick lead.

1451
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, she getting a hit in the hand with a

1452
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: firework and then.

1453
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 3: Her to go blind and become para paralyzed.

1454
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she did look with those glasses.

1455
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: No, I love the glasses.

1456
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1457
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 3: She also like why did she she like she finally

1458
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,440
Speaker 3: wears lipstick In the end when she's blind.

1459
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: She's like, enough has happened to me? At least I

1460
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: have to you know.

1461
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have to look good for my girls.

1462
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1463
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: The girls are like, how's your vision? And it's like,

1464
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: you know, she's blind, now, why would you ask that

1465
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: she never seen it?

1466
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: Or is it getting better? Because the didn't she answer like.

1467
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: I've never seen better in my life. No, she's fully blind.

1468
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 3: See, they're like how did you like how like how

1469
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 3: could you see that? Or something?

1470
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: Or so. I think her big arc actually is like

1471
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: becoming more metaphorical. At the end, she's like answering each

1472
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: question as though it's a.

1473
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 3: Metaphor, right, whereas before she was she wasn't answering a

1474
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 3: single question right.

1475
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: Exactly like before it was I don't know. I don't know,

1476
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then suddenly it's like, is everyone

1477
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: here family? And she's like, yes, wink. Can you see

1478
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: She's like kind of wink, like everything is a metaphor.

1479
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, bless you wink?

1480
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Okay, Well, any final thoughts about the film

1481
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: Pepsi Presents Madam Webb starring Dakota Johnson.

1482
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 2: I would love to watch Dakota Johnson drink a mountain

1483
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 2: do in real life. I think that would really be ground.

1484
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: I would love that, Yes, when they got Chinese food

1485
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: and three mountain dews.

1486
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 3: My final thought is just that, Like when you opened

1487
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 3: this up by asking what I thought of the movie,

1488
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 3: this question was also asked to me yesterday what I

1489
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 3: thought of the movie? After Sam asked me, what did

1490
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 3: you think of the film? And I and I think

1491
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: my response was and remains and remains, I don't have

1492
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 3: any thoughts about it.

1493
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: It's like I, actually, you're a meeting to where it's at.

1494
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 3: By not having it defies, it defies.

1495
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1496
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 2: Would you say your answer is I don't know, right?

1497
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, No, Sam, My answer is I don't know,

1498
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's I don't know.

1499
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1500
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1501
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 2: God, what an amazing Did.

1502
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: You guys like her sort of burgundy red leather blazer?

1503
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: I actually did like it, Like you didn't.

1504
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 3: Like, hated it, hated it one.

1505
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: We liked to be one, So that means it's cint

1506
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: I did like her jeans, Yeah, they fix. She has

1507
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: a great ass.

1508
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1509
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you said that you like that? Yeah?

1510
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: Were always jerking it in the forty Yes. When I

1511
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 1: saw her, I was sliding right off my seat because

1512
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 1: of all the water that was big.

1513
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, because of the water was being poured down my back.

1514
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 2: The driver you were having Wow, I mean should we

1515
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: wrap it up? Yeah?

1516
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 3: What do you have to do?

1517
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: Sam?

1518
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 2: I'm going to see colds Play?

1519
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

1520
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 3: How wait? How did you get tickets?

1521
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:54,440
Speaker 2: We got press tickets baby, because okay because of the podcast.

1522
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 3: Nice? Okay, are you going to go too?

1523
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: I actually so we met.

1524
01:12:58,400 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 3: You already went, didn't you already went?

1525
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: Because as his parents gave us tickets for Christmas, which is, oh,

1526
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: that's so nice.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I really want to see it, but I think

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Speaker 3: I have to wait until the new tickets are released.

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Speaker 1: I think you need to find a way to see

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Speaker 1: it for free.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you should just like ask for free.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've done some ass skin around, including people

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Speaker 3: that are like a few people that are in the production,

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Speaker 3: and I can't really seem to do anything about.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, are you doing anything tonight me after?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gigli gosh, I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I would hang well, I think okay, we might go

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Speaker 2: to the Eagle after the play.

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Speaker 3: We should go see Madam Webb.

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Speaker 2: But maybe I don't know. I'll text you after the play.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, we need to the Eagle.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like a lot.

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