1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Live from our nation's capital. President Joe Biden's one point 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,079 Speaker 1: nine trillion dollar pandemic relief package. We're not going to 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: hear anymore about Operation Warp Speed. They're gonna be calling 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: it the COVID Response. We're talking right now about jockeying 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: amongst Republicans. Bloomberg Sound On, the insiders, the influencers, the inside. 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Biden has Thomas again and again that he will unite 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: the country. Who do you think Biden has to watch 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: in terms of moderate defectors. The House has been voting 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: for this stimulus package basically for months. This is Bloomberg 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg Radio. I'm Jeanie 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Schanzano in for Kevin Cirelli with Bloomberg contributor Rick Davis. 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: And later we're going to talk to Congressman Chuck Fleishman 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: of Tennessee's third district. So much going on, As Charlie said, 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: on this busy day, as Jeff Bezos steps down from Amazon, 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: we see President Biden tackling COVID and demick ration. We're 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: watching him at the White House where he's expected assigned 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: three executive orders to begin to roll back President Trump's 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: immigration policies, including one that directs the new Secretary of 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: Homeland Security to lead a task force t a nite 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: several hundred families that remain separated under former President Trump's 21 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: zero tolerance policy. So we are monitoring that and we 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: will bring that to you if he makes any comments 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: or takes any questions. And meanwhile, on Capitol Hill, both 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: sides in the impeachment trial of former President Trump submitted 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: legal filings that offer a preview of what we will 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: probably seen next week when the trial starts. Seemed to 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: at least my reading, two key issues. One, was Trump 28 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: responsible for the January six riot on the Capitol. His 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: team has denied he incited the assault. House Democratic managers 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: are saying that he was quote singularly responsible for what 31 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: happened that day on the Capitol. And then the second 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: question is more about process and the constitutionality of trying 33 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: a former president. So joining me to talk about all 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: of that are room Rick Davis Bloomberg, political contributor partner 35 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: at Stone Court Capital, former campaign manager for John McCain's 36 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight presidential campaign, and Democratic strategist Max Burns. 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: He's a contributor at The Daily Beast to the New 38 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: York Daily News and The Independent. So good to talk 39 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: to both of you on this very busy day, um Rick, 40 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: these filings came in today. We are less than a week. 41 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to imagine this from the second 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: trial of the former president Donald Trump in terms of impeachment. 43 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: What do you make of these filings? Did you see 44 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: anything new in what we saw both sides put in today? No, 45 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: we pretty much knew what the House of Representatives case was. 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: We we got to see them actually do an impeachment 47 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: uh trial in the House already. Um. They presented a 48 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: very consistent set of charges today, uh, laying the attack 49 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: on the Capitol and uh previous comments that incited that 50 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: right at the feet of Donald Trump. I would say, um, 51 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: kudos to Bruce Caster and David Shown, the Donald Trump's 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: lawyers for even having a filing. I mean, They've been 53 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: on the job for a couple of days. He's been 54 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: through two different sets of legal representation for his impeachment 55 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: trial in the Senate, and these guys were just hired, 56 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: uh in the last couple of days. So they made 57 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: their pitch. You know, they're they're taking the First Amendment right, 58 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: the president should have the freedom to say whatever he 59 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: wants to. I think there'll be a lot of people 60 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: who want to fight over that, and uh, and so 61 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: we'll see. Um, is it a moot point. Maybe we 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: know forty five senators or at forty five GOP centators 63 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: already voted to dismiss the impeachment trial, and so I 64 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: think it's uphill climb at least. Yeah. And it's such 65 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: a good point that the lawyers seemed to be had 66 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: just been hired on the job merely hours when this 67 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: was due and Max, so good to talk to you 68 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: from your perspective. Are the Democrats open to something like 69 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: a center or something less than you know, a guilty here? 70 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: And if not, does this make sense when we know, 71 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: as Rick said, the outcome. I don't believe Democrats are 72 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: open to anything less than impeachment because the president's acts 73 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: plainly merited impeachment. And as far as saying we know 74 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: in advance how this is going to go, that's only 75 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: half the story. Because despite the fixation on winning in 76 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: every fight that has sort of characterized this Goop mentality, Uh, 77 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Democrats believe that ethics still matter, that making a statement 78 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: of values matters, and it is important to the health 79 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: of the democracy that at the very least history see 80 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: that a president behaving in this way faces at least 81 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: the condemnation of a lot of a majority of Congress, 82 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: if not enough to impeach. I think I think this 83 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: is an important thing to do also as accountability. So 84 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: that's sort of the the narrative we're seeing develop on 85 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: the Hill, and I think it's why you're going to 86 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: see Democrats holding really firm on impeachment as the way 87 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: to go. And Max, you raise an excellent point. Um 88 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill today, Senator a Senate rather minority leader 89 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell was asked about the legal filings and and 90 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: he said something similar to what you said. You you 91 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: just reiterated, we have sound on that with regard to 92 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: the former president. We're going into an impeachment trial next week. 93 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: We're all going to listen to what the lawyers have 94 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: to say and making the arguments and work our way 95 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: through it. So Rick Davis, um, do you believe that 96 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: minds are not made up at this point, that they 97 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: are going to listen with an open mind and vote 98 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: on that. Oh? I think some are I think there 99 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: will be Republicans who vote for impeachment whether you get 100 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: to sixty seven total votes. That's a as I said 101 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: Uphill Climb, I am curious to ask acts though. I mean, 102 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: part of the argument on accountability is actually having something 103 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: stick to Donald Trump. Right, He's been through one impeachment already, 104 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: and arguably he was emboldened by not being impeached the 105 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: first time around, and so are we really handling handing 106 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: him more emboldment? Uh, if there's a word, uh this 107 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: time around? And I know uh. Max had written uh 108 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: an opinion piece recently about whether or not the fourteenth 109 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: Amendment would be a better route where you could potentially 110 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: ban him from future public office actually get Republicans to 111 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: pile on and support a condemnation exactly how you were describing. 112 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: So so I'm curious now, Max, where do you think 113 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: that would have been if if we hadn't jumped into 114 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: impeachment real quickly. Well, I think the the motivation to 115 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: go to impeachment, as you mentioned, sort of block that out. 116 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: But we saw with Corey Bush introducing in the House 117 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: fourteenth Amendment charges against Republicans who were involved in inciting 118 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: this Uh, and that is an excellent way to actually 119 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: put in some standards against letting Donald Trump back into 120 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: public life. As you mentioned, convicting him under the fourteenth 121 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: Amendment would limit or ban him essentially from running for 122 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: office again, and would also be a majority vote fifty 123 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: one votes, not a supermajority is with impeachment. But there's 124 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: no reason that you can't do both. The question is 125 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: whether there's the political will to take that step, and 126 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: a lot of that is going to depend on how 127 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: Corey Bushes play in the House pans out. I think yeah, 128 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: and and Max on that point, what do you think 129 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: the likelihood is that we would see them do pull 130 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: in the fourteenth Amendment as you're talking about, do you 131 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: see that as something likely to happen? Well, there are 132 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: several Republicans who have expressed that they would actually be 133 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: open to voting for a fourteenth Amendment ban on future 134 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: public office who would otherwise not support impeachment. I think 135 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: that is definitely a way to go if it looks 136 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: as if, Uh, the Republican Party is just completely uninterested 137 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: in any kind of accountability, which is, unfortunately, you know, 138 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: sort of where we find ourselves right now. And Rick 139 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: do you think the Democrats have an issue in that 140 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: we are not going to see the Chief Justice presiding 141 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: over this trial as we are accustomed to in the 142 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: very rare cases we've had impeachment trials, and rather it 143 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: is a member of the Democratic Party who voted for 144 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: impeachment last time. Does that open them up to a 145 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: political quagmire if you will, Well, it certainly takes a 146 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: little bit of the edge off. I mean, as as 147 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: as Max is saying, if this entire exercise is slapping 148 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: accountability onto Donald Trump and the party, um, not having 149 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: the Chief Justice preside takes a little of that constitutionality, 150 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: the historical perspective away. Uh, it doesn't change the trial, 151 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: and it doesn't change the potential outcome. I mean, I 152 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: don't think having the Chief Justice not there is going 153 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: to change a single vote. Um, I do think it 154 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: it adds some credence to Republican claims that, um, there 155 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't be an impeachment at all. You can't, you know, 156 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: their their charges on the Trump side that we're that 157 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: we're put together today and release indicate that they are 158 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: going to fight this idea that you you really can't 159 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: impeach a former president I mean the hole in that 160 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: is that he was impeach in the House while he 161 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: was president, but they'll make a constitutional argument to support 162 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: their case, and not having the Chief Justice Justice there 163 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: actually reinforces the point that he's not president while he's 164 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: being impeached and Max as President Biden in the administration 165 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: struggle to focus attention on this COVID relief bill. How 166 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: much of a distraction are these filings today and the 167 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: fact that we are now just less than a week 168 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: away from the start of the trial of his assessor. Well, 169 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: Joe Biden certainly is no stranger to the realities of 170 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: governing in a crisis, and it just shows the the 171 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: necessity of having things in order and being able to 172 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: work on multiple avenues for the American people at once. 173 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we saw today that the Senate Democrats finally 174 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: sort of got tired of waiting for Republicans to get 175 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: serious on COVID and advanced that forward on a party 176 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: line vote. Uh, they will certainly be able to split 177 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: their time between overseeing an impeachment and proceeding with COVID 178 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: with immigration, and I think the expectation here is that 179 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: we've we've allowed ourselves to have really low expectations of 180 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: what Congress can do under the last four years, and 181 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: it's it's time that we showed the American people that 182 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: competent people can actually get things done. And and so, Max, 183 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: do you're saying in the last four years, But of course, 184 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: even prior to four years ago, we you know, we 185 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: had a Congress I was described as a do nothing Congress. 186 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: But but you feel confident that they can walk into gum, 187 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: they can both impeach the current president's predecessor, and they 188 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: can deal with these other huge, huge issues on their table. 189 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: I do. And I think that's largely in part because 190 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: President Biden has made clear that that's his priority. What 191 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: we've seen in the past was uh, the White House 192 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: putting forward a position and asking Congress to take the 193 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: lead and then backing off or changing positions, or coming 194 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: in and deciding it's no longer a priority. President Biden 195 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: has the focus on his key priority issues and he's 196 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: going to pursue those until they're done because that's what 197 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: he promised people, and he knows that that will hit 198 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: him if he doesn't. And Max, we're going to come 199 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: back and talk about that. We also want to note 200 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: that in terms of the Amazon and Jeff Bezos story. 201 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Daybreak Asia at six pm is going to focus on that. 202 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: That is going to be right here on Bloomberg Radio 203 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: six pm Eastern time. So listen to that and get 204 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: more on the Amazon story. Then this is Bloomberg Sound 205 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: On with Kevin Surrele on Bloomberg Radio. I'm Jeanie Schanzano 206 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: in for Kevin Cirelli, and here with me is Rick 207 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: Davis and Max Burns. Democrats and Republicans on Capitol Hill 208 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: are now indicating there's less hope for a bipartisan compromise 209 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: on more COVID relief funding. During a news conference this afternoon, 210 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said Democrats just wrapped up a 211 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: virtual briefing with President Biden and Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen 212 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: to discuss Biden's meeting yesterday with a group of Senate 213 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: GOP leaders who were pitching a much smaller package than 214 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: the President had proposed. We have sound on that. He 215 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: said that he told Senate Republicans that the six hundred 216 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: billion dollars that they proposed was way too small, and 217 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: it seems, as Max had said earlier, Democrats are tired 218 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: of waiting. At a White House press conference press briefing today, 219 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: Jensaki said President Biden continues to want both sides to 220 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: come closer together on this issue, although it's unclear if 221 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: they will be able to do that, and we have 222 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: sound on that there's some time. That's why the President 223 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: is in great gauging why he did with Republicans last night, 224 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: Democrats today, and why he's um. He's um conveyed um 225 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: that he would like to continue doing that in the 226 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: days ahead. So Rick, we know that he wants to 227 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: be bar bipartisan. UM. He's indicated that throughout the campaign. 228 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: But is your bet that Biden goes for the big 229 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: money or he goes bipartisan. What are you thinking at 230 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: this point? Well, I think he's definitely gonna go for 231 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: big money. The question is can he get big money 232 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: and have it bipartisan. I mean that that that questions 233 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: whether or not you can get one point nine trillion 234 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: dollars versus something less. Um. We saw at the end 235 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,359 Speaker 1: of last year a much less uh robust package financially, 236 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: but it was bipartisan. In fact, the previous five stimulus 237 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: bills that have been passed. As it related to COVID 238 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: have all been arguably bipartisan bills, so it would be 239 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: a big departure to try and force it through in 240 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: reconciliation with a straight line party vote. My guess is 241 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: Biden will work hard to try and get a bipartisan bill, 242 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: and it may require some negotiation on his top line 243 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: numbers and some of the issues inside. But Um, he's 244 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: certainly being pulled to a different direction, you know, by 245 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: Schumer and Pelosi who want to show that they can 246 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: control the caucus and and and and deliver for the 247 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: American public that needs relief. And and Max, I know 248 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: you said, you said that that the Democrats are tired 249 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: of waiting UM and that they are moving forward. Do 250 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: you think that they are in any danger, given Vice 251 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: President Harris's um interviews in West Virginia, any threat that 252 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: they could lose some of the more moderate members of 253 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: their caucus, saying Joe mansion or a Christian cinema as 254 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: a result of some of what's been going on in 255 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: the last few weeks, a fairly strong area for Joe Biden, 256 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: just because of the dire straits that so many families, 257 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: uh at unemployed Americans are in. And we saw even 258 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: in West Virginia, their Republican governors said, of all the 259 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: things to be fiscally conservative about, this is the one 260 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm willing to forgive if you're not, because my people 261 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: are suffering. And when you look at that, you're going 262 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: to see Joe Biden is probably firm on the fourteen 263 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: hud dollar check because that's been a big tent pole. 264 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: There may be areas to negotiate how targeted the next 265 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: stimulus is, but Democrats understand their voters are demanding this 266 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: and it's not something that they're going to uh to 267 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: benefit from stalling on. So you don't think that the 268 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: White House made a mistake with those interviews that many 269 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: people have raised questions about. No, I don't, and I 270 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: think the actions of the White House you've seen that 271 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: the Democrats and Joe Biden did exactly what he said 272 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: he would do. I proposed a plan, he heard out 273 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: ten Republicans in the Senate on their counter offer, and 274 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: unfortunately that was completely unrealistic. So bi partisanship doesn't mean 275 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: taking the worst offer the other side proposes. It means 276 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: getting them serious about what's possible too. So I think 277 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: most Americans understand the necessity to move quickly, Max, I 278 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: was I was curious though. I mean, one of the 279 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: things that is becoming one of the elements that have 280 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: become a threshold question is the unemployment. Not unemployment, the 281 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: minimum wage increase. Arguably you could make a case for 282 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: that being uh COVID related, but it hasn't been in 283 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: previous bills, and so the question is the Democrats hold 284 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: the line on that, even in in line of not 285 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: getting by Parson support well the interest, Yeah, the line 286 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: is on the left that this is, of course not 287 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: a perfect bill. There's going to be debate going forward, 288 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: especially around mansion and the size of the minimum wage. 289 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: There's going to be debate about the lack of retroactive 290 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: unemployment insurance in this bill, but that's something that we 291 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: can debate as we're moving forward, and I think we'll 292 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: likely see a phase minimum wage go forward. The idea 293 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: that we can get to fifteen now I think is 294 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: slightly unrealistic, But then again, senators have been very surprising 295 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. Who knows what we can 296 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: actually get once we start talking about it on the floor. 297 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: And we had two important confirmations of note today. Mayor 298 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: Pete Buddha Judge is no longer Mayor Pete, but now 299 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: Secretary Pete confirmed as Transportation Secretary, likely to play a 300 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: big role in the administration's pushed for infrastructure reform and 301 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: the first confirmation of a Latino had the Department of 302 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: Homeland Security Alejandro Majorcus today in that historic confirmation, and 303 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: of course, as we wait President Biden signing these immigration orders, 304 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: Mayorcus is going to play a key role in those 305 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: big story this afternoon on Amazon. More on that on 306 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: Daybreak Asia at six pm Eastern Time. I'm Genie Sanzano 307 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: in for Kevin Cirelli on Sound On on Bloomberg Radio. 308 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Surrele on Bloomberg Radio. 309 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm Genie Schanzano in for Kevin Cerelli, and here with 310 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: me is Rick Davis and Max Burns. More on what's 311 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: going on on Capitol Hill and in the Oval Office 312 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: at this moment and over the weekend or in the 313 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: last forty eight hours. Senator Mitch McConnell, a minority leader, 314 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: described the statements, theories, video tapes that have come out 315 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: about Representative Marjorie Taylor Green of Georgia, the freshman House 316 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: Republican from Georgia as Looney. Looney lies in conspiracy theories 317 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: that are a cancer on the Republican Party. So, Rick Davis, 318 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: were you surprised that Mitch McConnell came out talking about 319 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: not a member of the Senate but a member of 320 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: the House. Yes. I think that we see in real 321 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: time the emergence of a divide in the Republican Party 322 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: as compared to Mitch McConnell's conduct around controversies related to 323 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green, the House member who's embraced most of 324 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: the Looney conspiracy theories that are around today, and and 325 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: and contrast that with the UH, the leader of the 326 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: House Caucus, Kevin McCarthy, who, rather than respond to someone 327 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: in his own caucus UH takes a flight down to 328 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's Mara Lago and tries to plan on figuring 329 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: out ways to elect Republicans to make him speaker. So 330 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: I think that you see this playing out in real time. 331 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean, will Mitch McConnell emerge as the tacit leader 332 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: of the Republican Party and take it in a different 333 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: direction than those in the House have taken it? Um 334 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: since Donald Trump was present, And Max, as you look 335 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: at what's going on on the Republican side of the aisle, 336 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: UM is there on the Democratic side, UM is their 337 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: best bet to keep quiet on this or they should 338 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: they push for things like removal of Merjeri Taylor Green 339 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: from the Education Committee. And we may have lost Max, 340 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: So so Rick, let me just ask you our Democrats 341 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense for them to push for her removal? 342 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: Or should they just let Republicans sort of burn their 343 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: own house down if you will? Well, I I don't 344 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: know about burning the house down. I mean it's a 345 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: directional issue, right, I mean, is Kevin McCarthy gonna exert 346 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: leadership in the House of Representatives Republican caucus to clean house? Um, 347 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: they put Marjorie Taylor Green on the Education Committee. It's 348 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: getting wholesale uh negative reactions. And and Max even mentioned 349 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: in the last segment that other members of Congress like 350 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: Corey Bush are offering UM various investigations and legislation to 351 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: use the fourteenth Amendment to actually expel House members who 352 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: have participated in her mind UMU to stoke up the 353 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: insurrection that occurred at the Capitol on on January six. 354 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: So I think this is an emerging issue. I think 355 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: people on both parties are going to be asked to 356 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: take sides, and it may actually be more interesting long 357 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: term is to how the House cleans itself of insurrection 358 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: and folks like Marjorie Taylor Green than than what we're 359 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: watching in the Senate around impeach. Yeah, and Max, I 360 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: think we have you back now. In your view, do 361 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: the Democrats do themselves any service by speaking out about 362 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: this or should they just keep quiet and let Republicans 363 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: handle it. It's not an easy situation for them at all. 364 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: I think they do because part of being in government 365 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: is governing, and that beans standing up for the values 366 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: and ideals that you've sworn in your oath. I think 367 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: expelling Marjorie Taylor Green, not just from committees, but from 368 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: the House is a necessity. I mean Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman 369 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: Schultz said it very well today that Marjorie Taylor Green 370 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: is the David Duke of her day, and the fact 371 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: if we don't see her incitement of violence, her cheerleading 372 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: of the use of Democrats as targets for violence as 373 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: something reprehensible, uh is jarring to me. That there isn't 374 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: a a one consensus on this. Yeah, and I would 375 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: like to add I mean Max is right. I mean 376 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: the David Duke example is not a bad one because 377 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: the Republican Party expelled David Duke, who wanted to run 378 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: as a Republican Party as a Republican in uh for 379 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: office in now. So there are ways to handle this 380 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: inter party and extra party. The Republicans are just giving 381 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: themselves a kick me sign uh if they continue to 382 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: sponsor candidates who have these views, elect them to office, 383 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: and then expect him to serve in any capacity effectively. 384 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: And we should note that Mitch McConnell did not only 385 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: um take on Marjorie Taylor Green without naming her by 386 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: names her statements, but he also defended Liz Cheney. So, so, Max, 387 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: what do you think we're hearing that the Republicans going 388 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: to caucus tomorrow it will be obviously will be private. 389 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: What do you think is going to be the fate 390 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: of Liz Cheney at this point? I think it would 391 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: be a statement for how far this Republican Party has 392 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: fallen as a shadow of itself, that the the energy 393 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: is on punishing or chat. I think Liz Cheney in 394 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: any way, I mean the way we've seen mich McConnell 395 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: speak out because Mitch McConnell is nervous. He's nervous that 396 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: what Marjorie Taylor Green is and represents isn't just a 397 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: fringe idea that the Republicans can fundraise on anymore, but 398 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: she actually represents the center of a new radical Republican 399 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: party that endorses violence and anti democratic tactics. And now 400 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: the pressure is to move as quickly as possible to 401 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: try and salvage what's left. Yeah, and Rick is somebody 402 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: who's run so many campaigns. How difficult is this for 403 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: Republicans who are facing primary challenges back home and forced 404 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: to in many cases choose between staying in office or 405 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: taking a chance that they may be primaried by the 406 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: right and buy some big money that's out there. Well, 407 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: we've seen some Republicans already decided not to run for 408 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: re election and what would be arguably a good Republican 409 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: year in the first mid term of a presidency of 410 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: the party out power and so um you know. Uh. 411 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: Senator reportman Uh specifically called out the toxic nature of 412 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: of doing business in Washington right now is a reason 413 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: for not running again. Arguably probably would have gotten re 414 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: elected relatively easily. And so I do think it's going 415 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: to affect these folks and uh, and you know, we'll 416 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: see later how that's all going to turn out. Okay, 417 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: And we we have sound from President Bim Biden moments 418 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: ago at the White House signing ceremony r PI Special 419 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: Ages and two of whom were killed and three of 420 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: whom we were injured today in Florida. I was briefing 421 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: this tragedy earlier today, and I know the FBI is 422 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: gathering information about how this happened, what happened, but I 423 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: can only imagine how these families are feeling today. You know, 424 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: one of the things when you are in a combat 425 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: zone as a military or your FBI agent or military 426 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: or a police officer, every family just when I put 427 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: that shield on and go out in the morning, dredge 428 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: the possibility of a call in receiving that phone call. 429 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: And my heart aches for the families. I've not had 430 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: an opportunity noral. I tried today two to contact them, 431 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: but they put their lives on the line, and it's 432 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: a hell of a price to pay, and every single day, 433 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: every someone is as good up when a buying large. 434 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: The vast, vast majority of these men and women are decent, 435 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: honorable people put themselves on the line. We owe them. 436 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: But the purpose of my asking you here today is 437 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: I want to congratulate the new Secretary Secretary. My hearts 438 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: is gonna take on an easy job, nothing to at 439 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: home and secure and and gonna deal looking forward to 440 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: his leadership and working with Congress on a lot of issues, 441 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: including the immigration bill that has I think great support 442 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: of both chambers. Today, I'm going to sign a few 443 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: executive orders, UM, the strength and immigration system, building on 444 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: the executive actions I took on day one to protect dreamers, 445 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: and and the Muslim ban and the better manage our borders. 446 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: And that's what these three different executive orders about. And 447 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 1: I want to make it clear there's a lot of 448 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: talk with good reason about the number of executive orders 449 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: that I have signed. I'm not making new law. I'm 450 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: eliminating bad policy. UM. What I'm doing is taking on 451 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: the issues that that the president, the last president United States, 452 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: issued executive orders I thought were very counterproductive to our security, 453 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: counter productive to who we are as a country, but 454 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: particularly in U in Uh. In the year of immigration. 455 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: This is about how America is safer, strong, or more 456 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: prosperous when we have a fair, orderly, and humane legal 457 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: immigration system. And UH. With the first action today, we're 458 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna work undue the moral and national shame of the 459 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: previous administration that literally, not figurally ripped children from the 460 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: arms of their families, their mothers and fathers at the border, 461 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: and with no plan, none whatsoever to reunify the children 462 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: who are still and custody and their parents. The second 463 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: action addresses the root causes of our migration to our 464 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: southern border. And the third action of the third order, 465 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to be signed orders a full review of 466 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: the previous administration's harmful and counterproductive immigration policies basically across 467 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: the board. And so with that, I'm gonna stand for order, 468 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: which is re establishment of the inter Agency Task Force 469 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: and a reunification of families. Okay, so we have a 470 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: President Biden in the White House signing these executive orders. 471 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: There's three executive orders. He is signing. The first one, 472 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: the one that's gotten the most coverage regarding uniting hundreds 473 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: of families that were separated under Trump's zero tolerance policy 474 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: framework to address the causes of migration and to manage 475 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: migration throughout the North and Central America, and to provide 476 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: a safe and orderly processing of asylum seekers at the 477 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: United States border. And that is President Biden now signing 478 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: the second executive order regarding asylum seekers at the border, 479 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: is restoring faith in our legal immigration system and strengthening 480 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: immigration and inclusion efforts for new Americans. And now he 481 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: is signing the third and final immigration order of the day, 482 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: reunities children and re establish our reputation as being hating 483 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: for people in need. Thank you very very much. And 484 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: President Biden leaving the Oval Office, couldn't hear him responding 485 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: to those questions. But Max Burns, let me ask you. 486 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: The President said, I'm not making new law, I'm eliminating 487 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: bad policy. What is your view on these three executive 488 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: orders the President signed today? Absolutely right and honestly, this 489 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 1: could not come a moment too soon. This is not 490 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: only I think the President UH making clear to the 491 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: progressive wing of the party that he's taking seriously their issues, 492 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: but also a man who is morally outraged as as 493 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: I was, as someone who was in Texas during UH. 494 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: These family separations and worked to end them. Uh, it's 495 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: something that has outraged people more than I've ever seen 496 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: in my life. And it is, as he said, a 497 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: great moral and national shame. So this is this is 498 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: the first in a number of long steps to heal 499 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: that that wound. And very well said, and we want 500 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: to thank so much. Democratic strategist Max Byrne, contributor to 501 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: The Daily Beast and the New York Daily News and 502 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: The Independence, So good to talk to you. And now 503 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: joining us myself and Rick Davis Bloomber contributor, we are 504 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: delighted to talk to Representative Chuck Fleishman, who has represented 505 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: the third Congressional District in Tennessee Son's two thousand and eleven. 506 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: He serves on the Appropriations Committee as well as the 507 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: subcommittees for Energy and Water Development and Homeland Security. So 508 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: Congressman Fleishman, thanks so much for joining us. Well, good evening. 509 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: It's great to visit with you all. Thank you for 510 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: the opportunity. And I want to start by asking how 511 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: you're feeling. We know that you had were diagnosed with COVID, 512 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: and how are you doing well? Thank goodness, I threw 513 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: it quickly. I actually was diagnosed UH in very early January, 514 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: and unfortunately had to miss the inaugural UH inauguration. I 515 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: had gone to President Obama's second inauguration and then President 516 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: Trump's inauguration, but due to COVID, I was unable to go. 517 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: But UH, I'm back running. I'm strong, Thank goodness, I 518 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm healthy. But I do sincerely wish any one who 519 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: has been afflicted with this UH the very best of 520 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: health and a quick recovery. Oh so good to hear 521 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: that you're doing well, and I couldn't agree more. Let 522 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: me just ask you about the what we were just 523 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: what listening to President Biden signing three executive orders regarding immigration, 524 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: and you sit on the subcommittee for Homeland Security. He 525 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: was also congratulating the new Director of Homeland Security, Secretary Majorkis. 526 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: What is your view on these three executive orders he 527 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: signed today, as well as his statement, which I think 528 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: was striking that I'm not making new law, I'm eliminating 529 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: bad policy. Well, As the ranking member, meaning the highest 530 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: Republican on the Homeland Security Appropriation Subcommittee, I have worked 531 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: for years on these issues. I've spent a lot of 532 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: time going to the border, h looking at the the situation. 533 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: I have been disappointed with the rather um frequent use 534 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: of the executive pen that President Biden has done UM 535 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: in his short tenure as as president. I would much 536 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: prefer to work these matters out through the normal legislative processes. 537 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: But UM, I'm very concerned UH with the status of 538 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: the border, our border security. I've spent a lot of 539 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: time talking with the men and women who worked down 540 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: there for the border patrol. UH, so I'm rather concerned 541 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: about this. Again. I think we will see UH in 542 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: the courts many of the executive orders being challenged UM, 543 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: probably on a case by case or order by order basis, 544 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: but it's been again UH. Really, I think an overabundance 545 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: of the use of the executive pen and not really 546 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: a good way to start an administration. UM. When I 547 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: watched President Biden's speech UM at the inaugural from my couch, UM, 548 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: he talked about unity. He talked about UH in a 549 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: very positive way, bringing us together. I think the the 550 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 1: frequency and volume of these executive orders, coupled with some 551 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: of his his other initiatives, such as this COVID package, 552 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: where it was not warm to republican real Republican participation, 553 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: UH is leaving us with a sense perhaps an empty rhetoric. UM. 554 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: Actions speak louder than words. So, UM, I'm disappointed, but 555 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: he is the president and until the courts and the 556 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: American people UH do otherwise by by being vocal, I'm 557 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: afraid he's going to continue to use the executive pen 558 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: with these executive orders. Congressman flashman shifting gears little bit, 559 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: UH and owing to the fact that you are the 560 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: ranking Republican on the Homeland Security Subcommittee. UM, you know 561 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: we had an event today, UH. In addition to the 562 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: executive orders, Alejandro Maericus was confirmed as the new Secretary 563 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: of Homeland Security. UH. Today's conversation has been mostly focused 564 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: on immigration, but we know that there are many other 565 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: issues besides immigration that the the Homeland Security UM Agency covers, 566 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: including cyber attacks, which you know, we've seemed to have 567 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: forgotten that there's a significant exposure to the attacks that 568 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: we've had this last year. UH and UH, And I 569 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: was curious what you think the priorities are. If you 570 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: had UH Secretary of Amercus sitting in your office tomorrow morning, 571 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: what would you tell him he needs to focus on. Well, 572 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: it's an excellent point that you make clearly cybersecurity, but 573 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: I'm glad you've touched on the fact that the Homeland 574 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: Security up Committee of Appropriation funds so many different things. 575 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: Um clearly we will be very active in protecting the 576 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: nation from cybersecurity. I have talked long and hard about 577 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: protecting our nation's infrastructure. Our great capital city in Nashville 578 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: had a bomb blast on Christmas Day and the damage 579 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: to the infrastructure that caused that was caused by the 580 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: blast created a ripple effect in terms of technology and 581 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: the inability to stay connected. So I would I would 582 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: focus on integrity, not only in terms of the cybersecurity side, 583 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: which is very important, but also on the physical side 584 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: of of the grid and protecting that the other thing. 585 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: Looking at our our subcommittee, we fund t s A. 586 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: T s A has come through with a number of 587 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: initiatives recently, I think in a very bipartisan way, and 588 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: I think what gets lost is as we work together 589 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,479 Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats on homeland, they're He's been a few 590 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: divisive issues, the wall, ice and things like that, and 591 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: we're seeing President Biden address those in a way that 592 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: I would disagree with, but he's addressing those but probably 593 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: of the issues they are Republicans and Democrats do agree 594 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: on and work together Secret Service funding, for example, FEMA 595 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: funding tremendous degrees of cooperation there in a bipartisan matter. 596 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: So so, Congressman, can I ask you, how is the 597 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: vaccine rollout program going in your home state of Tennessee? Um, 598 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: we heard today the Biden administration going to begin shipping 599 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: vaccine doses directly to pharmacies. How is it working in 600 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: your home state. I think it's working very well. Our 601 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: Governor Bill Lee has worked very hard from the inception 602 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: to come out with a plan to prioritize those who 603 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: are more susceptible so that they would get it first. Obviously, 604 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: it's a bit easier in Tennessee because we are a 605 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: less populous state where a little over six million residents. 606 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: I realized some of the other states, particularly New York 607 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: and California, where they have larger populations, their additional challenges. 608 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: But by and large, I give very good marks to 609 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: the federal government. And what I mean by that is 610 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: the previous administration, the Senate, the House, and now and 611 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: now even this administration as it is trying to get 612 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: the vaccine out we've seen a concerted federal effort, people 613 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: come together, working with our partners in state government. Have 614 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: there been some glitches, Yes, have there been some problems, absolutely, 615 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: But what we need to realize is the vast majority 616 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: of Americans want this vaccine. UH. There are certain communities 617 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: that are more susceptible h to the virus and if 618 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: they get the virus, more susceptible to having more physical harm. 619 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: So in Tennessee, we've done a good job. I think 620 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: at the federal level, you're going to see continued cooperation 621 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: I believe between the legislative and executive branch to get 622 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: the virus out and to basically curb the ill effects 623 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: of this pandemic. Congressman UH shifting gears a little bit. UH, 624 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: I know that you're a big proponent of nuclear power UH. 625 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 1: It presents a significant baseload capability in the United States 626 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: UH and has has been fighting for attention due to 627 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: the growth in UH in other power sources that are 628 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: also UH non hydrocarbon renewable energies. And I was curious 629 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: that a lot of talk about doing infrastructure this year. 630 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: We've heard that so many times before. Big disappointment and 631 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: the Trump administration for not pursuing it. But do you 632 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: think nuclear power could be a component of an energy 633 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: program going forward in this administration? I really think so. Uh. 634 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: And in putting it in perspective, when it came to Congress, UM, 635 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: we worked with the then Obama Department of Energy on 636 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: nuclear Ernie Monice and I sat down, I can remember vividly, UH, 637 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: and talked about new designs, the American nuclear renaissance for 638 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: these reactors that did continue, fortunately through the Trump administration 639 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 1: with I would say tremendous bipartisan and bi cameral support 640 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: with record dollars for the Department of Energy. One of 641 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: the reasons I'm such a strong proponent and supporter of 642 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: nuclear power is I represent the city of oak Ridge. 643 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: That's where the Manhattan Project was started and really is 644 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: what I would call the Rome of d Oe World. 645 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: All roads lead there. We have so much that we 646 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: do there. It's about six billion dollars worth of federal investment. 647 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 1: But here's the great news, Uh, Progressives and conservatives many 648 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: times will embrace nuclear power. I can get in a 649 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 1: room with a gentleman like Bill Foster of Illinois, who 650 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: on most issues will vote completely opposite and sit down 651 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: and have a great positive conversation with him about nuclear 652 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: energy and where the American nuclear renaissance is going and 653 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: needs to go. So I think this is one of 654 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: the areas where I believe that UH conservatives and progressives 655 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: can work together. Now, not everyone is a champion for 656 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: nuclear power. We understand that UH, like all types of power, 657 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: this is clean, reliable energy, but UH it costs a 658 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: little bit more. But we are doing a tremendous job 659 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: working together across the aisle to make sure that we 660 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: come up with a new design. Because the rest of 661 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: the world, China Russia specifically are building reactors, looking at 662 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: their nuclear um portfolios, and we will literally be opening 663 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: up markets with their UH with their designs. We want 664 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: to make sure that America has a nuclear industry, not 665 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 1: only domestically, but so that we can basically offer our 666 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: designs to the world. I think given a level playing field, 667 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: the American nuclear portfolio is strong. There's a lot of 668 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: great ideas out there, and the best news is it's 669 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: a way that Republicans and Democrats can get in the 670 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: room most of the time and agree on an issue. 671 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: Congressman Fleishman, we have so much more to ask you, 672 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: but that ends it at a really positive note. So 673 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining US Representative Fleishman, Republican 674 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 1: from Tennessee's third District. Thank you also to Rick Davis, 675 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 1: Max Burns, and coming up next on Daybreak Asia, they're 676 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: going to be focused on the big story of the afternoon, 677 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos stepping aside from CEO role at Amazon. I 678 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: am Jeanie Schanzano in for Kevin Cereli on sound On 679 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio.