Speaker 1: Back to back classics to get you through whatever you
Speaker 1: need to today. Maybe it's a workout, maybe it's chores,
Speaker 1: Maybe you just need a nap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, By it's Brock and.
Speaker 3: Jeffrey, and we love that you're here.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it so much. We will have a brand
Speaker 1: new episode this coming Monday.
Speaker 4: But first comments, Christine Nicole said, first time ever commenting
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Speaker 2: Morning.
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Speaker 2: Of getting I reread it. I was like, did I
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Speaker 5: It blows my mind how many people like no more
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Speaker 1: Yeah really truly, thank you so much for your dedication
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get your back to back classics started right now.
Speaker 5: You've probably heard the saying never order Spaghettian meatballs on
Speaker 5: the first date unless you're one hundred percent sure you're
Speaker 5: gonna lady in the trumpet.
Speaker 2: Is a good exception.
Speaker 5: I've actually tried that with a chicken nugget once.
Speaker 7: Really, that's very sure.
Speaker 5: It did not work out as sexy as I thought
Speaker 5: it would in my day. But anyway, look out because
Speaker 5: there's a brand new food item you should absolutely avoid
Speaker 5: ordering on any first date or you're probably gonna instantly
Speaker 5: turn them off. Fortunately, one of our listeners did it,
Speaker 5: and you're gonna hear what that was in your second
Speaker 5: date update right after this.
Speaker 8: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning second date updates.
Speaker 5: There's a new trend that's happening right now where people
Speaker 5: online are posting dating rapped videos.
Speaker 1: Like you're Spotify rapped, but like, wait, how many matches
Speaker 1: you guys?
Speaker 5: Yeah, like an end of the year recap of their
Speaker 5: dating life from the past three hundred and sixty five days.
Speaker 2: I feel like that could go really wrong.
Speaker 6: It's like who you swipe on, what you don't like,
Speaker 6: who you know?
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's just it's like a type of person, yeah,
Speaker 5: or like the total amount of dates that you tried
Speaker 5: for the past year, and you're patting yourself on the
Speaker 5: back again.
Speaker 7: Okay, it's not about the failure.
Speaker 5: And today's caller, Kelly, mentioned in her email that she's
Speaker 5: dated around a lot over the past year, so our
Speaker 5: producer asked if she could give us a dating rap
Speaker 5: for herself.
Speaker 7: All right, so.
Speaker 5: We're gonna hear that in a second. First, Kelly, welcome
Speaker 5: to the show.
Speaker 9: Hi, thank you, thanks for having.
Speaker 5: Me, Thanks for being on with us. We want to
Speaker 5: hear about what's your dating rap briefly for us?
Speaker 1: If you can't every time you say rap, I wanted
Speaker 1: to break down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't.
Speaker 7: You don't need this hypo.
Speaker 2: That's what I wanted.
Speaker 5: Just give me.
Speaker 7: I can give you a beat if it would make
Speaker 7: the wraps.
Speaker 5: Way more for just a quick breakdown. What was your
Speaker 5: dating life like last year?
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's funny. I wish I could wrap my raps.
Speaker 9: It was sixteen first dates total, mostly mostly Americans. I
Speaker 9: had two Australians, one Irish guy, one guy who I
Speaker 9: don't know what his action was, but I think he
Speaker 9: may have been homeless also or just.
Speaker 5: Homeless. Accents from Wow, that judgment so that's good. It
Speaker 5: sounds like you're keeping your options opened. Was there anything more?
Speaker 5: What did you think about the sixteen guys that you
Speaker 5: were with? That sounds like that, you know what I meant?
Speaker 5: The sixteen guys you met separately during the year, how
Speaker 5: did they go?
Speaker 9: Yeah? You know, like out of the sixteen, six made
Speaker 9: it to a second date. Out of those six, only
Speaker 9: three made it to a third.
Speaker 10: Date or more.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Now all the guys two flat out rejected me
Speaker 9: right after the date. Eight were like new ctual ghostings.
Speaker 9: Three I rejected and told them it just wasn't going
Speaker 9: to work. And one block to me like immediately after
Speaker 9: the date. But I was he was a little suss
Speaker 9: I think he might have been married.
Speaker 5: Oh oh god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing you did wrong there other than go out
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 5: I suppose alexis looking back at her sixteen first dates,
Speaker 5: how would you grade her overall experience?
Speaker 4: It's not like a good but one sixteenth for being blocked, Like,
Speaker 4: that's not bad sixteen.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't for something she did exactly, that's a.
Speaker 5: Good aspect, I mean.
Speaker 9: And out of the sixteen, I only had to pay
Speaker 9: half on like one of them. And I'm really old fashioned,
Speaker 9: and I prefer the guy to pay. That's just how
Speaker 9: my mom and dad taught me.
Speaker 2: Old fashion your cheap. Let's be honest. I mean I
Speaker 2: know both.
Speaker 9: Yeah, just how it was. And I cried over two
Speaker 9: guys last year and ended up with zero. SI really well.
Speaker 5: And I do make a lot of women cry when
Speaker 5: they listen to this show. Oh yeah, we do. So
Speaker 5: tell me. None of the sixteen guys worked out. But
Speaker 5: now apparently you say there's a new guy and that's
Speaker 5: why you reached out to us.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's a new guy. I was hopeful. I don't
Speaker 9: know yet. His name is Steve. It was like an
Speaker 9: online match and it was just a casual date. It
Speaker 9: was really like less than hour, like a forty minute.
Speaker 2: Oh so you went out with them already.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: We just got Cuban sandwiches from this little sandwich shop
Speaker 9: and just went to the park and hees ate and
Speaker 9: talked and we were by this playground with kids running
Speaker 9: around and.
Speaker 7: What significant in some way? The playground that's my kid.
Speaker 5: No, it's a lot of information coming at us. I mean,
Speaker 5: there's sandwiches, there's a park, there's a playground, there's children.
Speaker 5: Does that sound like a good date. First, Like, overall
Speaker 5: alexis no.
Speaker 6: Kids around, No, but the sandwiches.
Speaker 5: Sandwich is okay.
Speaker 6: Sandwich is okay. Honestly, the playground was empty.
Speaker 4: I'd play on it, but it's a kid.
Speaker 9: That would be a fun date, that would be No.
Speaker 9: It was really just kind of a lunch date really,
Speaker 9: because like, the sandwiches are really messy. And at one
Speaker 9: point he was like, you got something on your face
Speaker 9: and I was like, oh where, and he was like,
Speaker 9: you pointed to like my entire lower half and he
Speaker 9: was like everywhere under your nose, and.
Speaker 1: That means he's paying attention. You know, he's looking at you.
Speaker 2: I'm not even joking.
Speaker 3: When I met my husband, I didn't realize.
Speaker 1: I carried so much food on my face until I
Speaker 1: met that man, and I was like, he always has something.
Speaker 2: To point out.
Speaker 1: No one else before him ever said anything.
Speaker 5: How the women on this show can spin anything for
Speaker 5: another You.
Speaker 3: Heard the odds, Jeff, I don't think that's bad.
Speaker 7: I mean, how'd you guys end it?
Speaker 9: After we ate, we were just kind of like, oh,
Speaker 9: if we had a frisbee, we'd throw it. But we
Speaker 9: just kind of kind of like picked up a stick
Speaker 9: and was kind of playing within then.
Speaker 5: Go get it, Go get your date.
Speaker 9: I mean I got no, but it got a little awkward.
Speaker 9: You know, I was really hoping he'd say, like, you
Speaker 9: know what, let's grab a drink and proceed to like
Speaker 9: a nighttime thing. And he's so cute. I'm sure he
Speaker 9: gets a lot of attention from women on on the app.
Speaker 1: So well, he doesn't sound very good at a date.
Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't even bring a frisbee.
Speaker 6: He didn't even get the sandwich place.
Speaker 2: He went to a park.
Speaker 5: Why is the man in trouble? We're paying for the
Speaker 5: saying which she's the one that date.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I don't think he's getting hit
Speaker 1: on as much as she thinks because he is not
Speaker 1: as experienced as he should be.
Speaker 2: A good ride.
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's the man's fault somehow, but let's prove it.
Speaker 1: When we come back.
Speaker 5: We're gonna call Steve for you and try and get
Speaker 5: you your second date update right after that. Your name
Speaker 5: is Steve, you better pick on hold on.
Speaker 8: Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning second date updates.
Speaker 5: I feel like in the first part we definitely miss
Speaker 5: something we miss and by we I mean Brook.
Speaker 7: Okay, I know that we were going there.
Speaker 5: Brooke was out of it that even though the guy
Speaker 5: is the one not calling Kelly back. Yes, and Kelly
Speaker 5: said herself, he's very good looking and must get a
Speaker 5: lot of attention on the dating apps. And Kelly's the
Speaker 5: one that had sandwich pieces all over her face. Brook
Speaker 5: hurt all of that and says, Nope, the guy is
Speaker 5: a bad date planner. I bet no women want to
Speaker 5: go out with you.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't say no women. I just said I
Speaker 1: don't think that he's as wanted as she thinks. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to hype her up. Okay, she has something to
Speaker 1: offer on this table, and he is going to Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he was too intimidated by how awesome she is.
Speaker 6: You know, the sandwich all over her face.
Speaker 1: Listen, I've gotten food on my face. It shouldn't stop anything.
Speaker 5: Okay, but no, actually normally yeah, yeah, eat politely once
Speaker 5: some one of your dates try that. But look, the
Speaker 5: whole thing is Kelly really liked the guy that she
Speaker 5: met up with, Steve. They did a casual date in
Speaker 5: the park with Cuban sandwiches. They tossed a stick back
Speaker 5: and forth. It was a great time was a little strange.
Speaker 5: I mean they weren't sure what else to do. It
Speaker 5: was short though. Yeah, and so now afterwards she's hoping
Speaker 5: to get one more shot with him because he's been
Speaker 5: kind of ghosty.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you heard from him at all, Kelly?
Speaker 9: I haven't. And now I'm nervous because I was really slobby.
Speaker 9: Maybe I was I grossed him out.
Speaker 10: I don't know, I was drunk.
Speaker 1: The mason that you had going into that sandwich is
Speaker 1: what it.
Speaker 8: Is really good understanding.
Speaker 5: If you could do that to a sandwich, just imagine what.
Speaker 1: Else you could that is, right, Jeffrey, we are here
Speaker 1: to hype.
Speaker 5: Sandwich. Yeah it's disgusting, all right, that's not what he says.
Speaker 5: But here we go with Doll's number. We'll see what
Speaker 5: he has to say. Let's do it. Hey, we're looking
Speaker 5: for Steve speaking and Hey Steve, I said we because
Speaker 5: you're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey
Speaker 5: in the morning.
Speaker 11: How you doing man, Uh, you're from the radio.
Speaker 2: And podcasts podcast.
Speaker 5: To Yeah, yeah, we got a good podcast.
Speaker 1: We are multifaceted here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're in the future with our entertainment, but we're
Speaker 5: focused on you, right now because one of our listeners
Speaker 5: went on a date with you the other day and
Speaker 5: really had a good time. He wants to see you again,
Speaker 5: but that hasn't quite happened yet, and she's not sure why.
Speaker 5: Her name's Kelly ah Man. Okay, Okay, oh Man.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's.
Speaker 5: The fact that you're not reaching out for another date
Speaker 5: is kind of hinting that you're not interested. But we're
Speaker 5: not sure if that's true or not. We want to
Speaker 5: know what you think about Kelly.
Speaker 11: Uh, she's very nice, Like, Kelly's cool, but you know,
Speaker 11: I just don't think it's going to work out.
Speaker 7: Okay, is there is there a reason?
Speaker 1: I mean, did you went into it thinking that it
Speaker 1: could work out?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean definitely, But you know, like we got
Speaker 11: some food and then we went to the park and
Speaker 11: it just it started to get a little weird. But like,
Speaker 11: you know, I don't want to blow up a spot,
Speaker 11: like I don't even know you guys.
Speaker 5: So see, we didn't hear anything like weird. She said
Speaker 5: she had like some food or something on her face,
Speaker 5: but nothing stood out to be weird.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's weird to him, you know, like maybe it's
Speaker 1: weird to him to have a female have food all
Speaker 1: over their face.
Speaker 11: No, no, actually I thought that was kind of cute.
Speaker 7: See I thought you guys turn off.
Speaker 5: What was the issue? You said it was weird?
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, I'm like, so, you know, we were sitting
Speaker 11: on the bench, were chilling, and there's like a playground,
Speaker 11: you know, that's in this park that we're in, and oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she randomly mentioned that to us too.
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, and she so there's like a bunch of
Speaker 11: kids playing, and all of a sudden, she points and
Speaker 11: she's like, oh my god, look imagine if will we
Speaker 11: had that many kids and those were all our kids
Speaker 11: running around and there were like either like eight ten
Speaker 11: kids playing on the playground.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So she was describing a nightmare, right, Like
Speaker 1: that's how she meant, like, imagine how chaotic.
Speaker 2: Our life would be.
Speaker 11: She sounded thrilled.
Speaker 7: Oh thrilled.
Speaker 5: Okay, so that's a red flag to you. That's a lot.
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, I mean, like I've known you for like
Speaker 11: twenty minutes and now now we're having eight kids together.
Speaker 7: Yeah Okay.
Speaker 1: In her defense, I will say it sounds like maybe
Speaker 1: she was just trying to fill the void, like maybe
Speaker 1: there was like an odd because she said like it
Speaker 1: kind of died at the end your guys' date. Maybe
Speaker 1: she was just trying to, like I say dumb things.
Speaker 5: Could you understand that point of view, maybe, Steve, I
Speaker 5: mean I guess I could.
Speaker 11: But she started getting like really into it. Oh, she
Speaker 11: was like naming them.
Speaker 12: Oh.
Speaker 11: There was like another one we were saying where she
Speaker 11: wasn't feeling one of the kids and she was like,
Speaker 11: he's not playing nice. You would put him for an option.
Speaker 5: Okay, she's obviously kidding. Well, that should be a positive
Speaker 5: for you because you don't want.
Speaker 7: That many, you would only have seven.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 3: She'd say she was a good mother, just a mother.
Speaker 5: Okay, but that it sounds like it was all that
Speaker 5: conversation kind of scared you. Was too much for you
Speaker 5: joking or no?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean you know, yeah, but if she was joking,
Speaker 3: maybe you could work it out.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And there's a perfect person to find out whether
Speaker 5: or not it was a joke. That's Kelly, who's on
Speaker 5: the other line right now waiting to talk to you.
Speaker 5: Wait a yeah, Kelly and her seven children say hi.
Speaker 2: Oh did she give another one up for adoption or
Speaker 2: wed out of six?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Ever since she heard that Kelly there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Steve, it's Kelly. I am I like fuming, I'm
Speaker 9: so offended. Yes, because and you know what this is
Speaker 9: why and how I realized why I had sixteen unsuccessful
Speaker 9: dates last year. It's because they were all like you, Steve,
Speaker 9: like emotionally an intellectual.
Speaker 7: Why are you upset?
Speaker 2: Why are you so mad?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Because, my god, Brooke, you were totally right, Steve. You
Speaker 9: stock a planning a date.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to hype you up, not tear it down.
Speaker 5: What happened?
Speaker 9: Listen, if you even had like an ounce of a
Speaker 9: sense of humor, like you would get that I was
Speaker 9: obviously joking, and I would for you to actually think
Speaker 9: that I was serious, like, oh my god, like you
Speaker 9: must be a narcissist.
Speaker 11: But you would think I would reach you.
Speaker 9: For forty minutes and suddenly want to have your babies.
Speaker 5: All right, well, all right, okay, I think we're I
Speaker 5: think we're going down a path we don't need to
Speaker 5: go down any farther we were. You weren't happy with
Speaker 5: Steve's response. There, Steve, are you there?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Yeah, you're here barely, but I'm still here.
Speaker 5: Would you like to respond to any of the allegations
Speaker 5: just against you.
Speaker 1: I thought you guys were all gonna have a big
Speaker 1: laugh about how it was a miscommunication, Steve.
Speaker 9: Bottom line, you planned a boring date and now I'm
Speaker 9: paying a price for it.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's nut, Steve. You see your data.
Speaker 9: Being and I'm not going to go for just the
Speaker 9: looks like I thought you were super.
Speaker 2: Cute too much.
Speaker 13: What kind of radio show is this?
Speaker 11: You just trash, dude.
Speaker 5: It depends on how many drinks Brooks.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to make her feel better about
Speaker 1: you not calling her, and now I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think that this was already happening and I didn't
Speaker 2: realize it.
Speaker 11: You know, you don't have to tear somebody else down
Speaker 11: just to try to make somebody else feel.
Speaker 3: Batter That's a good life lesson, Steve.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, all right. I wasn't trying to
Speaker 2: tear you down. I don't know, just I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't think you said anything wrong, Steve.
Speaker 5: Those are thoughts that should have happened before you said
Speaker 5: the terrible thing.
Speaker 11: It is, well me either, I'm just being on it.
Speaker 5: Okay, everybody be honest with everybody. This is a good
Speaker 5: chance to have Steve admit that maybe he didn't plan
Speaker 5: the best first date. Yeah he did, Okay, okay, And
Speaker 5: maybe Kelly didn't make the best conversation trying to invent
Speaker 5: an entire family of eight twenty minutes into the conversation.
Speaker 9: That Kelly owned that, Well, I'm sorry that I was
Speaker 9: so bored. I had to use my freaking imagination.
Speaker 5: Okay, that was an apology.
Speaker 1: You could have imagined the kids in like a sweatshop
Speaker 1: or something like that wouldn't have been a red flag.
Speaker 5: Brook's trying to get her business planned. So Steve, if
Speaker 5: you're hearing what I'm here, and then you probably see
Speaker 5: the same thing as me, which is potential for true love.
Speaker 5: And that's why we would be delighted to send you
Speaker 5: out on another date that we would pay for. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't same day messy sandwiches and all. Put it
Speaker 5: on our tabkay, adoption fees Brook is going to cover that.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: Sure, what do you say?
Speaker 11: No, no, no, I'm not going out with her yet.
Speaker 11: I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 9: You went on.
Speaker 11: Sixteen failed dates like what? Like this? This woman is
Speaker 11: out there for me, only one her though only it's
Speaker 11: about to be two.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry for someone will get your humor someday.
Speaker 10: Yeah, No, it's okay, Brooke.
Speaker 9: You know you're absolutely right. This guy knows nothing about
Speaker 9: planning and you should absolutely own this.
Speaker 5: God girls, if you hope for all women, congratulations not
Speaker 5: what I meant, Brook and.
Speaker 8: Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 5: That call was a great example of the power that
Speaker 5: Brooks words have with our listeners.
Speaker 2: I don't know what what went so wrong.
Speaker 7: I really don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I went from trying to hype
Speaker 1: somebody up, like I don't.
Speaker 5: Know, you weren't typing anybody up though you were pushing
Speaker 5: the guy down, trying to because he played out. At
Speaker 5: the end of the first part, Brook could have said, Okay,
Speaker 5: you guys did like a sweet little date in a
Speaker 5: park out in nature. He got you a meal. You
Speaker 5: guys spent time talking and getting to know each other.
Speaker 1: She was feeling self conscious because she's like, this is
Speaker 1: a really hot guy and he's probably got tons of girls.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, nah, the guy doesn't even bring a
Speaker 3: frisbee to a date.
Speaker 7: He doesn't know anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you call the guy boring because he didn't book
Speaker 5: a midnight laser light show with free drugs or whatever
Speaker 5: types of dates that you're into, and look what happened.
Speaker 5: She immediately hopped onto Brooks opinion, blew up into a
Speaker 5: tirade against every man who's ever let her down. Ever,
Speaker 5: it's a good reminder that we and when I say we,
Speaker 5: I mean you again, Brooke, then we need to stay
Speaker 5: open minded. If it's not your ideal cup of tea
Speaker 5: first date idea doesn't mean other people can enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I just was trying to make her feel better, jeff
Speaker 1: How many times do I have to tell you that.
Speaker 5: Don't It's not worth it let other people feel sad.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I got to a fast food burger place with
Speaker 1: a bogo hoop on on a first date.
Speaker 7: And still gone out with the guy again.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 5: Everybody says low as Brooks are and your dating life
Speaker 5: couldn't possibly be bad. We're just saying we can try
Speaker 5: and help you with your date life. Email the show
Speaker 5: if you ever need help. We'll call that person who
Speaker 5: wasn't calling.
Speaker 8: You back brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 5: Ladies, I have a question, why aren't there more of
Speaker 5: you getting locked up in magical towers and getting tied
Speaker 5: up to train tracks and getting slowly lowered into vats
Speaker 5: of boiling lava. Yeah, frankly, you're not giving men enough
Speaker 5: opportunities to step up and become heroes.
Speaker 3: For you, Alexis, why aren't you more helpless?
Speaker 6: I know, I'll take all my friends off by my
Speaker 6: friends right now.
Speaker 5: Making us look bad. But recently one of our listeners
Speaker 5: had not one, but two opportunities to be a knight
Speaker 5: and shining armor right in front of his date, and
Speaker 5: he could not believe his luck. So why is she
Speaker 5: completely ignoring him after his impressive display of heroism Because.
Speaker 2: She's already saved. She doesn't need him anymore.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll put yourself into danger again, girl. Okay, all right,
Speaker 5: we're gonna try to find out what happened in your
Speaker 5: second date update. Right after this.
Speaker 8: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning second date updates.
Speaker 5: We got an email from one of our listeners who
Speaker 5: says he's been living his life by a dating philosophy
Speaker 5: that's been circulating on the internet now for about two decades.
Speaker 5: For decades, it's called the Tow of Steve, that is
Speaker 5: Tao of Steve. And I've not heard anything about this,
Speaker 5: but according to him, it involves three basic rules that
Speaker 5: men must live by. Number one, be desireless.
Speaker 1: Number two nobody wants you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good at that one. I'm not sure. I
Speaker 5: guess we'll find out. Number two is be excellent and
Speaker 5: number three be gone. And if you can live by
Speaker 5: all three of those rules as a man, you will
Speaker 5: become irresistible to any woman on earth, even married women. Brooks,
Speaker 5: So look out. Maybe get your ear plugs ready before
Speaker 5: we talk to him.
Speaker 2: I love those gone boys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna learn more in a second. First, let's
Speaker 5: say hello to Bobby, who needs our spiritual guidance today. Bobby,
Speaker 5: welcome to the show.
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how you doing.
Speaker 1: I wanted you to be Steve, the originator of all
Speaker 1: of this, but barely you're Bobby.
Speaker 2: That works too.
Speaker 13: Oh it can't be everything. I guess all the time.
Speaker 13: I'm doing my best here, I'm doing my best.
Speaker 2: Isn't isn't calling our show?
Speaker 1: Breaking rules one in three already.
Speaker 13: Of your expect Yeah, you guys are on to me.
Speaker 13: But it's a desperate situation.
Speaker 9: I need you.
Speaker 2: That's rule number four. Be desperate. Jeffer just didn't get
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So tell us who's this woman that's making you
Speaker 5: go against everything you believe in. Her name is Tory.
Speaker 13: She's super hot and she's super nice and we just
Speaker 13: had an amazing day and like, I don't know, normally
Speaker 13: a woman would respond to all these philosophical things I've done,
Speaker 13: but it's completely backfiring on me.
Speaker 14: Now, because if you're excited about someone and it's like
Speaker 14: the first time you've ever felt this way, like lean
Speaker 14: into it, Like life's too short to be desireless.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could tell sometimes if someone's like purposely waiting
Speaker 4: till you try to.
Speaker 5: Do it, Like, yeah, next thing, you know, you end
Speaker 5: up on this show and you hit your rock bottom.
Speaker 5: So wow, Bobby, tell us, how did you get to
Speaker 5: this point? Like, tell us about your date with Tori?
Speaker 2: How did you know her? Is it an online thing
Speaker 2: or no?
Speaker 13: No, I met her at a bar. I just kind
Speaker 13: of bumped into her. And it had to be desirefull
Speaker 13: in the beginning, and then you be desire less.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's how it works.
Speaker 5: Okay, it makes sense.
Speaker 13: I'm in the phase between desireless and be excellent. And uh,
Speaker 13: we're waiting outside the restaurant because it's like a popular place,
Speaker 13: you know. Okay, so I had my opportunity to be
Speaker 13: just come upon me.
Speaker 10: It was awesome.
Speaker 5: What are you excellent at?
Speaker 11: Friend?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm excited what this opportunity was.
Speaker 5: What happened?
Speaker 13: So this foreign family, I'm not sure where they were from.
Speaker 13: I didn't speak whatever language they like. Vaguely I can
Speaker 13: tell they're looking for a specific museum, like a really
Speaker 13: famous ranger.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they're like tourists in the area and they
Speaker 1: need some help.
Speaker 13: Yeah, exactly. Okay, they weren't understanding my directions, so I
Speaker 13: was just like with my fingers, I was like, I
Speaker 13: will walk you there, you know, like little like walking
Speaker 13: man fingers.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Most people would pull out Google Translate on their phone.
Speaker 6: And pull it up on their phone on Google Maps.
Speaker 13: Yeah but okay, yeah, but Google Maps is an excellent
Speaker 13: I want.
Speaker 1: To be You're gonna leave your date standing in front
Speaker 1: of the restaurant while you walk this family?
Speaker 13: Absolutely not. I took her with me.
Speaker 5: So now you're demonstrating that you're a guy who's willing
Speaker 5: to help strangers. You know your way around the neighborhood
Speaker 5: generally a lot of excellent quality.
Speaker 2: You know what a museum is, yes, you know exactly.
Speaker 5: So did you go straight to the bedroom from the museum?
Speaker 5: Did you have to do more?
Speaker 13: Well, you know, if you have the chance to be
Speaker 13: excellent twice, let's do it twice. And luckily for your
Speaker 13: boy here, he was excellent twice in one night.
Speaker 5: Whoa at the museum? So many directions back to the restaurant?
Speaker 2: Wow, what did you do the second time?
Speaker 13: So second time we're having dinner. Dinner is like pretty
Speaker 13: much finishing up, and you could just tell like someone
Speaker 13: dined and dash, someone hadn't paid their billh yeah, like
Speaker 13: the waiters were all huddling together and stuff, and like
Speaker 13: it was an expensive bill.
Speaker 8: It was a big deal.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 13: I took care of the bill and I tipped the waiter,
Speaker 13: just kind of nonchalant.
Speaker 5: Like, oh wow, super nice bro.
Speaker 1: I thought you're going to go to hero mode and
Speaker 1: tackle the dining and dasher, but you just took care
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 13: I mean, I think tackling the dining and dasher is cool,
Speaker 13: but it's even cooler to be nonchalo.
Speaker 5: How do you be nonchalant after just going over and
Speaker 5: paying someone else's bill? Like, what do you say to
Speaker 5: Torri when you come back to the table.
Speaker 13: Well, the thing is you say nothing, and you wait
Speaker 13: for her to question you what was that?
Speaker 9: And then you.
Speaker 1: Reveal, wow, did she fall into that ploy?
Speaker 10: She was like, what was that?
Speaker 13: I was like, I just took care of it.
Speaker 5: A little shoulder shrug.
Speaker 1: No, biggie, no, while you're checking your bake, stage me
Speaker 1: to make sure it doesn't bounce.
Speaker 10: These things.
Speaker 13: These are investments.
Speaker 5: Okay, you are investing though, because you know she's gonna
Speaker 5: think about little things.
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it's a gentleman thing to do.
Speaker 5: We're all impressed. Did it work on Tory?
Speaker 13: If you had asked me in the moment, I was like,
Speaker 13: couldn't be better. I walked her home, we hugged, I
Speaker 13: gave her a peck on the cheeks, said, we talked, dude.
Speaker 13: And then it turns out she goned me.
Speaker 7: Oh no, yeah, the gonner got gone.
Speaker 13: You never hit me up.
Speaker 1: How long did you wait before you contacted her after
Speaker 1: the date?
Speaker 13: Well, I mean, like, according to the rules I live
Speaker 13: by and trying to be gone, So I was trying
Speaker 13: to be gone for a while.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just that's your answer right there.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think she thought she got ghosts?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 6: You don't hear from someone after a first date, you're
Speaker 6: not yea.
Speaker 5: So maybe your rules are playing against you if you're
Speaker 5: sticking to them.
Speaker 13: Yeah, but like after like four or five days, I
Speaker 13: just couldn't take it anymore and I just started texting
Speaker 13: her and I was absolutely desireful, not excellent, and I
Speaker 13: was pregnant.
Speaker 8: Man, she broke you.
Speaker 5: I tell you, Steve would be so disappointed in your
Speaker 5: behavior when.
Speaker 1: I tell myself I'm going to eat healthy and then
Speaker 1: what do you know, a whole box of oreos ends up.
Speaker 2: In my mouth.
Speaker 5: And now you're reaching out to us, which I think
Speaker 5: breaks your first rule of like be desireless, because now
Speaker 5: you're asking a radio show to show how much you
Speaker 5: want to hang out.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean all the rules are out of the
Speaker 13: window at this point. I want Tori so bad.
Speaker 5: We're throwing every rule that we know out the window.
Speaker 5: When we come back and call Tory for you and
Speaker 5: try to get her to agree to abide by the
Speaker 5: tow of Bobby and give you one more chance with
Speaker 5: your second date update right after this hold on.
Speaker 8: Brooking Jeffrey in the morning. Second date updates.
Speaker 5: You know you're in a good place when you find
Speaker 5: yourself abandoning your entire belief system to score a date
Speaker 5: with a woman. I've abandoned my belief six times since
Speaker 5: I got to work today. Oh, and it feels great.
Speaker 1: I don't know we could call a dating strategy your
Speaker 1: belief system.
Speaker 2: That he's a little dramatic.
Speaker 5: Well, that's what Bobby says. He told us he used
Speaker 5: to live by a dating philosophy called the taw of Steve, which,
Speaker 5: if you didn't hear, it's basically three rules about demonstrating
Speaker 5: your value while also not coming across as desperate or
Speaker 5: too available. Okay, so he's stuck to those very strictly
Speaker 5: until he met Tory Yeah, and said, screw it, Tory's
Speaker 5: way too hot. I need to know why she's not
Speaker 5: calling me back right now.
Speaker 1: I mean he lasted four days until he started incessantly
Speaker 1: texting her.
Speaker 7: Exactly yeah, with no response.
Speaker 5: Now, Bobby, I'm assuming you don't want us to tell
Speaker 5: Tory about your mantra and the rules that you follow,
Speaker 5: unless how you already told her, did you?
Speaker 13: No? No, No, I didn't tell her my philosophy. Don't
Speaker 13: tell her, that's part of it.
Speaker 5: You don't say it.
Speaker 4: But also, do you assume most singles out there try
Speaker 4: to do the same general thing, play hard to get,
Speaker 4: not be too available.
Speaker 7: It's pretty com be excellent.
Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, yeah, but like this is my secret sauce.
Speaker 13: Tell them the secret sauce.
Speaker 5: I think it's admirable that as a plan, because mine
Speaker 5: is just drink a lot and hope for the best.
Speaker 5: So in a better spot than a lot of people.
Speaker 2: And we've all seen you after you drink a lot.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 5: What she's a crier to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's exactly right.
Speaker 5: Let's call Tory. We'll see what she has to say.
Speaker 5: Why she's not calling you back. Hopefully she picks up,
Speaker 5: and I'm dialing your number right now here we go
Speaker 5: pick up for us?
Speaker 10: How is she? Hello?
Speaker 5: Hey, we're looking to speak with toy.
Speaker 10: Can I ask you's calling?
Speaker 5: Yes? You can. We're a radio show. We're called Brook
Speaker 5: and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 7: Hey, Torri also here.
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, what's going on?
Speaker 5: We're doing a segment on our show called the Second
Speaker 5: Date Update where we're trying to help out one of
Speaker 5: our listeners get in touch with you after you already
Speaker 5: went on one day with him.
Speaker 10: It's just like some internet thing or no.
Speaker 5: No, it's much more disgraceful.
Speaker 7: It's a radio thing, yeah, but it's also a podcast.
Speaker 5: Focus on the radio part. That's the cool bit of this,
Speaker 5: because we're just trying to get some answers for Bobby
Speaker 5: about why you're not hanging out again or even talking
Speaker 5: to him at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a date, okay, I mean you
Speaker 1: could see. It's probably pretty obvious that it's driving him
Speaker 1: nuts not knowing why you're not calling because.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, it's kind of just felt like I
Speaker 10: was on a date with someone who was giving attention
Speaker 10: to everyone and everything else except me.
Speaker 1: Why do you say that?
Speaker 10: Even when we first got to the restaurant, we were
Speaker 10: waiting and he offered to show some people that were
Speaker 10: lost the way to the museum. But that's nice, Yeah,
Speaker 10: but I was starving and we lost our reservation, so
Speaker 10: we had to wait another thirty minutes.
Speaker 5: No, because you were gone.
Speaker 1: Oh I could see that happening actually, And I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: not only that if she's in heels, like it's not
Speaker 1: comfortable to walk.
Speaker 5: Okay, So you don't value helping people, you value material.
Speaker 7: Things like, don't come at her like that.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm trying to understand where your thought processes.
Speaker 10: I mean that was just one part of the date. Like,
Speaker 10: even when we were inside he would compliment the weight staff,
Speaker 10: But how dare he never once complimented me in Oh.
Speaker 5: That's important, like the focus of the whole night. Told
Speaker 5: the weight staff to compliment you for going to do
Speaker 5: it directly, it's so beautiful? Could you also relay that
Speaker 5: to her?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't compliment you, because I mean he gushed
Speaker 1: about you to us, about and lovely and nice you were.
Speaker 1: He never said anything like that to you.
Speaker 10: No, I mean even when I was in the middle
Speaker 10: of a story. I was telling him about my vacation
Speaker 10: to Europe, and he got up in the middle of
Speaker 10: it and went and picked up a nap and somebody
Speaker 10: else dropped at another table.
Speaker 5: He's almost like, it's gonna sound funny. He's almost like
Speaker 5: too nice.
Speaker 6: Guys, you think she cares about things that she does.
Speaker 4: Like, guys think girls are impressed by those things, not
Speaker 4: just listening to them, you know.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And like even at the end, he held the
Speaker 10: door up in for someone else and then went out
Speaker 10: behind them, not holding the door for me.
Speaker 2: And didn't what the heck do you think? Here's the thing?
Speaker 1: Obviously he's a kind person. Do you think that he
Speaker 1: was just nervous and maybe that's why those things didn't
Speaker 1: happen for you.
Speaker 10: He didn't seem nervous, and he was super nice, polite
Speaker 10: talking with everyone else.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, But a lot of times guys don't want to, like,
Speaker 5: seem too desperate in front of a girl and won't
Speaker 5: say the thing that they're feeling because it don't make
Speaker 5: them seem you know, beta, which is a thing that
Speaker 5: it's a complex that guys.
Speaker 1: Have and that's why they slam doors in their face.
Speaker 5: Is But maybe he was just in his own head
Speaker 5: too much and we should probably ask him about it,
Speaker 5: because Bobby is waiting on the other line wanting to
Speaker 5: compliment you profusely.
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, what Yeah, he's.
Speaker 5: Been listening to this call, Bobby.
Speaker 12: You're there a coming in high little smooth lit there, Bobby,
Speaker 12: anything you want to say to her?
Speaker 13: Tory, you didn't like all those excellent things I did
Speaker 13: set you up there?
Speaker 10: I mean, what was the point of me being there
Speaker 10: if you weren't going to give any attention or participate
Speaker 10: in the date at all.
Speaker 13: I mean, you didn't really give me a lot of
Speaker 13: attention After the date you know, I gave you a
Speaker 13: lot of texts and calls and stuff.
Speaker 10: Why would I do that give attention to someone who
Speaker 10: clearly didn't have the time of day for me.
Speaker 13: No, uh, that's that's really that's for you.
Speaker 5: That's not it.
Speaker 13: Okay. So basically, Bobby, wait, wait, hold on, are you
Speaker 13: sure you want to do this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like apologize.
Speaker 5: And compliment her.
Speaker 13: Yeah, but like you guys want me to lie there,
Speaker 13: I don't want to lie there. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 5: We say, compliment her, that's a lie, go for it.
Speaker 5: Then clear your chest, man, then go for it.
Speaker 10: Bobby, what do you have to tell me? But can
Speaker 10: you hurry up? But got things to do?
Speaker 13: Okay, Okay, So like I live by these these philosophical rules,
Speaker 13: all of which you don't really need to know about.
Speaker 13: But basically, like I was, I was trying to demonstrate
Speaker 13: value and be excellent for you two other people. You know.
Speaker 13: Maybe it came off as like I do care about you,
Speaker 13: but I was like trying to do these things to
Speaker 13: show you what I'm capable of, like my potential and stuff.
Speaker 5: I can pick up a napkin so fast, yes.
Speaker 13: Yeah, exactly, I can pick up a napkin so fast.
Speaker 10: Yeah, right now, I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 10: Right now, Like, all you have to do is ask
Speaker 10: me questions and listen and compliment.
Speaker 7: That is a lot to ask for.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is the thing is complimenting kind of goes
Speaker 5: against the philosophy that he believes in.
Speaker 3: So well, that would be part of being excellent.
Speaker 5: No, i'd be breaking desireless.
Speaker 7: But yeah, but you do that.
Speaker 1: He said after the first eight See, this is the
Speaker 1: whole thing with rules, Like they get so complicated. Why
Speaker 1: don't you just be a normal human and have a
Speaker 1: good conversation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's get rid of laws too, Jeff, that doesn't
Speaker 5: no structure.
Speaker 13: I think I know what she's talking about. I think
Speaker 13: she just doesn't like people who do good things.
Speaker 7: Here's a question, Tory.
Speaker 1: If he would have done those things for the other
Speaker 1: people well, and also listened and complimented you and asked
Speaker 1: you questions, how would you have felt?
Speaker 10: I mean, it would have been better, But I'm not
Speaker 10: sure why he needed to focus on everything else except
Speaker 10: our date. But I can't.
Speaker 13: I can't do all those things. I was already tired
Speaker 13: doing the other stuff.
Speaker 2: It's a lot, man, So it's one or the other.
Speaker 2: Fore you you're either.
Speaker 5: Fully thinking, strategizing, or you're doing nothing.
Speaker 2: He's not a multitasker.
Speaker 13: Yeah, like, I'm sorry for being excellent.
Speaker 7: That's not the apology that she stepped in before that.
Speaker 5: But the one thing that he is focused on right now, Tori,
Speaker 5: his only focus is getting another date with you. That
Speaker 5: is why he reached out to a radio show to
Speaker 5: get a hold of you and arrange a second meetup.
Speaker 5: And we would pay for it if you're willing to
Speaker 5: give him a second chance.
Speaker 10: I think I'm good. I don't want to be with
Speaker 10: someone who just likes to grandstand.
Speaker 5: But remember, Bobby's not good, he's excellent, So you could
Speaker 5: level up.
Speaker 1: I mean now he knows right like now, the expectations
Speaker 1: of what you're looking for out there, Like you might.
Speaker 3: As well give him a chance to make that happen.
Speaker 2: Don't you think.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm listening out. Look, you're hot, and I'll pick
Speaker 13: up your napkin and like you want me to ask
Speaker 13: you questions? What are you doing next Friday? Let's get dinner.
Speaker 2: That was actually the smoothest thing he's ever done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tory, what do you think I'm gonna pass.
Speaker 10: We did our best, honestly, he just he came on
Speaker 10: way too strong at the end.
Speaker 15: And oh, Bobby, you're back to square one, dude.
Speaker 13: These rules just like don't work for some people, like
Speaker 13: I'm desireless, doesn't work, I'm desireful, it doesn't work. I'm excellent,
Speaker 13: I'm too excellent, I'm gone, I'm too gone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, welcome to dating women, buddy. It's gonna be a
Speaker 5: long road.
Speaker 4: Nobody said too excellent but yourself.
Speaker 8: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 5: You know, after thousands of second date calls, I'm starting
Speaker 5: to notice a trend. Sometimes men don't listen very good.
Speaker 2: Wait are you just now hearing that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm thousands. I don't know if anybody saw this,
Speaker 5: but even when guys get here like beating over the
Speaker 5: head with good information, sometimes it just doesn't register for guys.
Speaker 5: We're also sometimes information doesn't register.
Speaker 2: Like it's hard to sometimes change right?
Speaker 7: What this guy?
Speaker 10: Sorry?
Speaker 5: What were you saying?
Speaker 1: This guy was so like stuck on his plan that
Speaker 1: when it was the problem, he couldn't like he could
Speaker 1: ship pivot?
Speaker 5: What is Brooks saying? I don't know. Next time you
Speaker 5: get angry at a man for not listening. Maybe turn
Speaker 5: your attention to God from making us that way.
Speaker 7: It's I see, it's it's God's fault.
Speaker 5: Thanks a lot God.
Speaker 7: God's fault put us in a bad.
Speaker 5: Spot over here, But we can put you into a
Speaker 5: good spot in your dating life. If you want some
Speaker 5: help with that. At least we'll try email the show.
Speaker 5: We'll call that person who's not calling you back, and
Speaker 5: two out of the.
Speaker 2: Four of us will actually hear what you said.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, maybe on a good day. I'm just happy
Speaker 5: to be here. Go check out all of our second
Speaker 5: Day podcast wherever you get yours at Brook and Jeffrey