WEBVTT - Sugar w/ Eric McCormack 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.000 Of the law and order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.800 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:07.640 vicious felonies. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:08.840 These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:29.880 These are our stories done done. Hello, Hi, hi, Hi. 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.159 Welcome to That's Messed Up NSVU podcast. 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.199 I'm Kara Klank, I'm Liza Trigger and every week we 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.639 talk about an episode of SVU, the true crime it's 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.200 based on, and then we have a guest from the episode, 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.479 and as always, our guest is a list Baby. 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:49.000 Listen. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.600 We know that this has been an extremely tough week. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.720 There's been some horrible events that have happened in the news, 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.320 and we are going to touch on this later in 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.920 the episode, so please stay tuned for our Sister Peg 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.959 segment and we're gonna direct you guys towards some resources 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:05.399 and have a little bit more of an in depth 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:09.120 conversation about that. But for now, we kind of, you know, 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.280 are gonna keep it light. Lisa, what's going on with you? 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:13.600 Just? 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.360 I don't know. I just feel like periods suck. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.280 I'm at my parents' house and I'm in my childhood 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.760 bedroom and like I revert back to my old behavior. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.920 I'm screaming at them for no reason. It's humiliating. I'm 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:29.160 thirty three, but I just am like I went on 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:30.440 a walk. I mean, okay. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:31.880 I told them, I'm like, I'm gonna go work out 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.920 in my room. Each of them entered my room separately 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:36.640 without knocking during that one hour. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:41.240 I asked for privacy. I can't imagine. I really can't. 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.000 I went for a one and a half hour walk. 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:44.840 I have some lines to learn. I was like, I'm 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:46.240 gonna go for a walk. I got a call. 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:47.080 They're like, where are you. 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:48.800 I'm like, I just want I can't even have a 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.560 fucking walk. And I know it's because they love me 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.200 so much. I faced some with a friend and they're like, 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.480 what's that shrine behind you? And I'm like, oh, yeah, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.560 it's just photos of me. They're obsessed with me. Like 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.160 I should feel lucky to have parents that love me 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:05.280 so much, but I just seem like I just I'm 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.640 humiliated by I asked my therapist for strength to be 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:09.480 kinder to them. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:13.520 But wait, does your childhood better not have a lock 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.800 on it? It does? I'm not really, that's not my vibe. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:17.519 I don't know. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.800 I didn't maybe just for the workouts going forward, well, 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:23.600 because then they're gonna knock and be like, what's going 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:24.079 on in there? 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:25.760 Yeah? 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:27.760 Well, because when I'm alone working out, I'll just wear 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.880 a bron underwear like I don't need more launch and 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.720 piling up right. No, but they care about me so 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:34.760 much because I've been in an Airbnb uniform US. So 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.160 I came and I was washing the dishes and my 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.080 mom goes, oh, you've had enough dishes. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.040 Let me do them. Like why am I mean to 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:45.000 this woman? But it's a double edge sword with your parents. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.040 You know you love them, you hate them. There's a lot. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:48.920 It's just all the things I'm working on with my 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.200 personality and therapy all come to light. Like I wake 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:53.799 up to them yelling and I'm like, oh, this is 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:55.120 where I get my behavior from. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.480 Like I didn't just learn to yell at them. Oh 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.280 my god. Last night one of our mutual friends. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.040 I was hanging out with and she was telling me 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.720 about some friend of her family where like the son 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:11.040 killed the mother, and I was like, if Rosie killed me, 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.919 that would be devastating all the work I do. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.359 I mean, murder is the most extreme, but if any 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.360 of your children treated you the way I treat my parents. 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:23.280 I would slap them in the face every time I 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.600 scream at them. I'm like, is Rosie gonna scream like this? 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.960 And hope not Jesus, I hope. I don't know. I'm 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:30.320 gonna read. 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.000 I'm going to read some book about how to talk 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.119 so kids listen, and how to listen so kids talk. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.200 I don't know, we'll see no, but murder is tough 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.680 for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I was just like, oh my god. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.240 I just like, I've obviously. 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.480 Heard of children murdering parents before, but not since I 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.560 haven't thought about it since I've been a parent, And 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.600 I'm like, Wow, it's never occurred to me that this 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.960 little devil could go from throwing my jewelry around just 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:54.440 stabbing me multiple times. 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.720 Wow, I mean something to think about. Yeah, we're bed. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:03.160 Parenthood is not for everybody. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.640 Yeah, because like I know, you're you're, you're, you know, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.760 famously famously going to be child free, and you're like, 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.280 I just can't imagine some tiny Lisa yelling at you 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.080 the way you yell at your parents. It would just 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.680 be at like an impasse. Every time I would throw. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.640 Her against the wall like it was the wwe I 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:23.520 don't know what I would be in jail. For sure, 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.880 I would there would be an SVU episode based. 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.520 On me and my child. For sure. 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.400 It would be upsetting news. Oh, I do have a 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.520 surprise to tell you. It might be weird for the podcast, 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.800 but I will do it. You know, I had to 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.440 move last minute. Kara packed up my apartment. She's been 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:42.880 I'm moving back to LA. She's very helpful to me. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.680 And so during this time, you've been babysitting. 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.880 My dice and vacuum. And I want you to know 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.279 that that is going to be yours forever. No, Lisa, 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:54.280 I was gonna give it back. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.159 No, I'm gifting you the dice, and I've used it 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.039 eight times in my life. You probably use it eight 0:04:58.040 --> 0:04:58.640 times a day. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.599 And what's ironic is that I'm giving you a rug 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:04.880 and you've never had a rug. Really, So now you're 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:06.920 gonna need a dyce in. But you know what, you 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:08.599 can just borrow the dyce in. You don't have to 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.280 vacuum that often. We are gonna live blocks away from 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:11.680 each other. 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.480 I think I'll just buy a little handheld dustbuster. I'm 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:18.080 not a cleaner in my spirit, but I feel like 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:19.760 I don't I don't know why I bought an eight 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:20.680 hundred dollars vacuum. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.080 I'll be honest, I didn't even know it was that much. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:27.600 For Jesus, I do haven't mounted to the wall, though, 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.400 so I am happy you're letting me keep it. 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.119 Well, I was talking to one of our mutual friends 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.960 yesterday and we were talking about the vacuum, and this 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:37.000 is what was decided. 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:42.360 I'm also babysitting some Obama chocolates for you, a frame fiction. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.880 You can't keep that, No, that stuff's all going back 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:45.120 to you. 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.880 The Obama portrait is in Rosie's closet, so she sees 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:48.440 it every day. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:49.600 No, Rosie can. 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.600 Keep the Obama portrait. But I definitely need my Obama 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:53.400 chocolate cause. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.240 You can give it all, you can have it back. 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.599 I didn't help you move out so that I could 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:03.159 like gather things from you, But yeah, I felt like 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.520 you probably use it a lot, the vacuum. Yeah, I 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.440 mean I do, And as says, I used it when 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.360 my baby decided to just freaking what is it called 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.800 when they when the when the football players spike a 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:16.480 ball at. 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.800 The end zone. I don't know, I don't know. 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.560 Whatever she touched down to fucking glass of wine and 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.920 just shattered it into a thousand pieces. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:25.560 There wasn't really any wine. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.479 In it, but like the glass went everywhere, so I 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.880 definitely needed the dice in. Then, geez, she loves throwing. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.320 She loves throwing. That's what everybody thinks. She's going to 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.040 be athletic. I'm like, against all odds, me and her 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.480 husband and my husband as her parents, she's. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:39.719 Apparently going to be athletic. I don't know. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.880 She loves fucking throwing stuff. But just to clarify, the 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.400 Obama chocolate's what are they? They're like they're hers she 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.400 kisses that are special edition. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.120 No, they're from the White House. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.599 Yeah, because I don't know if anyone here watches VP, but 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.080 you know she gave people presidential eminems a lot in 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.480 that show and when she was mad at them, So 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.080 these are presidential during the Obama years. And it was 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.719 my old roommates who I do not speak to anymore. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.440 She moved out without cleaning up any of her stuff. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.960 I had to clean up everything, like handle it all. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.600 So it's like, I'm sorry if you leave with no 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.520 notice and I have to find a roommate and clean 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.080 out your room. I'm keeping your fucking Obama chocolates. I 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.600 don't care, and that's that, and take me to court, bitch. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.600 I mean, I'm not giving them back to you. 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.480 That would be such a good judge, Judy though, like 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:32.080 two comedians that hate each other going after fucking package 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:33.200 of Obama chocolates. 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.320 I would die. That's Ratings gold. 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.320 The thing that was funny while we lived together, people 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.680 were like, so, how's it going fighting yet? 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.120 And I was like, you're a misogynist. How dare you? 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.880 Two fun women can get along? And then a year later. 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:46.640 It was like, okay, I guess you guys were right. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.000 We cannot get along, Lisa. 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.240 How old is this chocolate? I just googled it. Chocolate 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.760 only lasts one year. Oh it's not for eating, it's not, 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:57.080 thank god. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.840 No, now it's display chocolate, display only chocolate. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.320 No, there's no way meaning that this is forever. This 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.119 my children, well not my children, I don't know you're children. 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.560 Someone will get it. Your niece and nephew, you'll get 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:09.960 to them. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.960 No, though Obama chocolates are because we have other friends 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:14.960 that are holding some art for me and other things. 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.440 But I do not trust their stone or asses with 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.000 the Obama chocolates, like for they can only go to 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:25.240 specific households that I know will not open the chocolates. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.440 Yes, because it is. 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.560 Tempting, Like I smoked weed for a long time and 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:31.440 sometimes you're. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.280 Like, eh, but no, you don't happen though Obama chocolate. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.040 You're like, how good of a president was Obama? Really? 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.000 And then you just fucking eat all the chocolate. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.760 Well, I'm really glad to hear that your parents are 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.240 soaking up every minute of Lisa time that they're going 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:48.320 to get before you move. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:50.840 But I hope that you can work out in peace 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.880 next time. Yeah. No, I'll be nicer to them. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.319 And we're a family that doesn't discuss any problems, so 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.200 the next morning we pretend nothing happens. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.880 So it's kind of terrible in the long run, but 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.640 in the short term it's perfect. Yeah. All right, But. 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:10.040 Speaking of presidential chocolate, let's talk about today's episode. 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:10.960 Sugar. 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:19.520 All right, Sugar, Sugar, let's get into this episode. 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.880 I was gonna sing the dent dun dun dun, dundun dum. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.839 Sorry I didn't even give you a chance. Okay, So 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.280 this is season eleven, episode two. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.720 I always hate it when they go when they start 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.599 an episode, or where in any episode where they go 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.880 down into the subway tunnels, they just creep me out 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.920 so much, like I just think of rats and all 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.920 the like horrible stuff that's in the subway tunnels. So 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.520 that's where this episode starts, down in the old like 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.280 down in these subway tunnels, or maybe it's like it's 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.239 tunnels off of Grand Central I think, which I think. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.880 I didn't tell you this, but our friend Lane last 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.280 week pulled someone off the subway track. 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.439 I knew. Our other friend told me insane. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.040 Yeah, shout out to our friend Lane for being a 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.400 hero fully pulled someone off the tracks. 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.200 And then bought him pizza and then got him a 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:05.880 lift home. So nice. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.360 Yeah, people are having a rough time right now, probably 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.640 especially in New York, and that was like, damn, what 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.040 a day. I would say, saving a life is enough. 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.199 Pizza is kind of a cherry on top. So we 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.320 start down in these old tunnels that are either subway 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.959 tunnels or tunnels off of Grand Central, which if you've 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.640 lived in New York you know Grand Central is where 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.520 the trains go out to the suburbs or two different 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.600 even to different states, like you can take a train anywhere, 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:35.080 and these two dorks are like treasure hunting down in 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.480 the subway and they find what they think is their treasure, 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.120 and it's actually a suitcase with a naked dead woman inside. 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.440 So that's how we hit the ground running on this 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:49.640 episode immediately with a horrific body finding and then they 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.040 basically find out that she's twenty no id. The killer 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.040 stript are naked, and Warner, I guess, is too busy 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.760 with a suicide at the Chrysler building, so they're like 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:00.840 have at it. I don't understand how the cops are 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.120 supposed to just like do Warner's job for her. She 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:07.199 seems pretty essential. But either way, obviously Benson is very 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.200 astute realized notices her neck is bruised, looks like she 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.280 was strangled, and these two nerds are fighting, and I 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.520 just Benson has a funny line where she just goes, 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.920 calm down, you're both pretty and I just like when 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:22.280 Benson is sarcastic. So we get them to We get 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.800 these two nerdy dudes to the precinct where they would 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.479 they explain that they are geocashers. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.440 I think SVU has. 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.760 Done more than one geo cashing plot line before I'd 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:37.320 have to research it. But you know, I definitely think 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.360 they're into this geocashing thing, which if you don't know, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.360 is like it's basically just like a treasure hunt using 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.240 coordinates and maps and all kinds. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:46.040 Of clues and stuff. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.480 And Olivia like shows them the treasure and is like, 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.200 tell me again, what's so exciting about pins and yo yo? 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.040 It's like a bunch of dollar store garbage in this 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.560 box and they're like, no, it's about the buzz of 0:11:55.600 --> 0:12:00.200 being FtF first to find. So these guys didn't see anything, 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.160 you know, they're just like the dorks that find the body. 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.360 They're like, tell us who left the box there? And 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:10.280 they're like, ugh, the masturbatar is the name of the guy. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.560 But also what's shocking is they're not traumatized at all. 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.920 They're still about the yo yo and yeah, you did 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.880 just see a crumbled up dead body in a suitcase. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.800 Can you like shed half a tear? I don't know, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:23.720 I know, they're not traumatized at all. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.720 They're really obsessed with like being the first person to 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:26.960 get the box of Yoyo's. 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.559 It's really wild. So they see this video that. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.840 This quote unquote, this person whose pseudonym is Masturbatar has 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.240 left a clue that's like, hey, and the voice is 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.400 all coded and the face is all pixelated. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.560 That's like, here's where you find your clue. Blah blah blah. 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.160 But when you know who it is, the pixelation is 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:45.240 still so obvious. 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.760 Yeah, like it's clearly her. Well, they trace it to this. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.800 They trace the Wi Fi to a discount store on 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.880 Staten Island called the garb Barn. I mean more depressing 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:00.200 words have never been spoken like that. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.520 I don't know. That just sounds like a terrible place. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:04.839 Not that I don't I love a discount store, I 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.880 love a Marshall's, but just on Staten Island called the Garbbarne. 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:09.320 Yikes. 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.320 So they get there, they're talking to the manager. He's like, ah, 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.319 the kids love the free Wi Fi. They're always on 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.560 their face space or they're my book or whatever. It 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:20.760 is classic Boomer humor. Elliott thinks it's somebody that works there. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.240 Thinks Masturbator is somebody who works there, and goes over 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.200 the PA system and is like, can the masturbator come 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:30.160 to register one? The masturbator to register one? And then 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:34.319 all these nerds sort of start timidly moving towards Elliott 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.440 and Olivia, and then Olivia takes the mic and goes, 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.360 not a masturbator, the masturbator. So already I'm in love 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.920 with this episode because it's goofy as hell, like there's 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.400 just so much funny, silly shit going on like this. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:52.080 So then we see this girl employee looking really sketchy, 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.600 and she's played by Abigail Savage from Orange is the 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.680 New Black. She's also been on three episodes of SVU. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.040 This is her second one. Her first one is Control, 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.079 the one where the guy gets his balls cut off 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.720 after he's been abducting and marrying women, and the third 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:10.520 is Manhattan Transfer, where she stars with a friend of 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.160 the pod, Michael O'Keefe playing dirty Father Eugene. She plays 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.440 sister Nina Kelly and has like has sister peg vibes. 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.320 So she's a great returning SVU person. 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.560 So she basically, like Lisa said, you basically realize, oh, yeah, 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.080 why did we think it was a boy, just because 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:27.640 it's like it seems like. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.920 She had like a hot topic haircut, and it's like 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:30.760 this is her. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.040 Yeah, But honestly, it seems like the masturbator is something 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.920 a boy would name themselves, not a girl. So I 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.640 think that's like where the red airing was. But she's 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:43.560 a girl and she's the masturbator and she's like, yeah, 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.280 like that train almost ruined my shot in my video. 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.320 And they're like, there was no training your video, and 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.680 she's like, the second take there wasn't, but the first 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.640 one there was. So of course, of course, her first 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:57.960 take of her message to the geocashers shows a perfect 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.800 shot of the one seventy three train coming through and 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.400 a suitcase being thrown off the train, like she got 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:04.440 exactly the moment. 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.040 Very SVU will go with it because we have no choice. 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.200 So Finn cross reference to credit cards, blah blah blah, 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.160 figures out that the girl on the train is Emily Keith. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.200 She lived in Stamford. I used to live in Stamford. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.680 It's about thirty five minutes forty minutes outside New York. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.560 It's in Connecticut, and she was going one way in 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.680 a sleeping car to Tampa. Benson and Stabler then go 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:29.880 visit her dad. They want to know where her dog 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.640 Tank is. The stepmother gives us a little background, saying 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.240 that Emily was kind of like a wild child drinking 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.040 party and going out with the bad guys. And then 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.520 the dad was so happy when she met Owen. And 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.560 it turns out the step mom's like Owen Cassidy, an 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.640 upscale kid who sales but who lost his job and 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.520 is on quote unquote fun employment, and she lived with 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.960 him on his sailboat at the seventy nine Tree Boat 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.760 Basin right down the street. 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.760 Let's be honest, what anyone that lives on a house 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.480 boat is not a good character. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:01.400 Is still a bad boy? 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.440 Okay, No one on a houseboat is like a chill, 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.080 upstanding citizen. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:07.280 Prove me wrong. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.280 Listen, two of my friends are a couple are sailing 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.960 around the world right now, and I'm like, it looks 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:19.240 amazing but also like crazy and terrifying at the same time. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.320 Like it's not like it's below deck where they have 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.240 like a staff. It's just like the two of them 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.880 on a boat get having to repaint and like plug 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.160 up holes and do all this crazy shit on the boat. 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.600 So I don't know, boating is a weird life. So 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.480 they're at the seven Entry Boat Basin, which is dragged 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.240 down the street from my old apartment in New York 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.480 and had an amazing bar and restaurant that just closed, 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:40.840 I believe, which is so sad. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.120 They go to question Owen. He runs immediately. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.560 He hops on this little dinghy and tries to get away, 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.040 like the kind that it's inflatable, and he tries to 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.720 point a flare gun at Stabler, Like what is wrong 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:53.200 with you? 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:57.360 Actually, you also forgot he was I've never really seen 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.440 this on STVU, but he was smoking a doobie, like 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:01.760 you kind of saw the John. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.560 Oh, he said that later, but I didn't see it. 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:05.440 I didn't see it. 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.440 Yeah, he like legit was midpuff as they walked up. 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.080 It was really exciting. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.120 Well, Lisa, you know you have you have tunnel vision 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.840 for people, so you noticed it immediately. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.280 I didn't notice that. I saw him kind of coming 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:21.040 out of his boat. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.040 And then they were like, he's like, you got to 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.320 ask permission to come on someone's boat, and then they 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.479 were like showed their badges. He books it, So then 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.359 he's on this dinghy pointing a flare gun at Stabler, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.320 and Stabler shoots the boat and deflates it, which is 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:35.600 like a hilarious way to bring in this. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:36.600 They're like, get over here. 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.000 You idiot, Like, it's like, yeah, this is a very 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.440 slapstick episode of it. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:40.840 It is. 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.399 It is really like, I mean, it gets weird, it 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.800 gets awful later, but right now it's nothing but laughs. 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:51.760 Let's see Owen is an interrogation and he says he 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.480 needs because he was Yeah. Yeah, he's like a hot, preppy, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.560 douchey kind of looking guy, bury boat shoes. He says 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.440 he ran because he was smoking the joint, which Lisa 0:17:59.440 --> 0:17:59.960 already spot. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:00.800 I didn't know. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.080 He said he got scared. He knows nothing about Emily's murder, 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.520 and then Benson shows up and is like, you don't 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.359 know anything about her trip to Florida either, Why why 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.240 don't you explain how you have a slip down there 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.560 and you make cell phone calls from there every other week. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.600 So clearly this guy is like not being truthful. 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.439 Then we get a call from Finn that tells telling 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.160 Benson and Stabler that they just found a dozen kilos 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.040 of uncut cocaine on Owen's. 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.440 Boat, so he is fucked. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.560 But nothing of Emily's was on board, no dog, no clothes, 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.480 and then Finn goes just a tube of lipstick but 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.160 looks like more of his shade. 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:35.320 I don't get this joke. 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.760 I mean, I think it's like, uh ah, he's gay, 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.080 you know. I think it's one of those I think 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:43.480 he wears lipstick. 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:49.800 Lol, Yeah, one of those jokes that dub doesn't hold up. 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:52.359 And Stabler's like, do you hear gurgling? That's the sound 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.600 of you drowning right now. There's a lot of zingers 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.800 in this episode too. Owen admits to dealing, but not 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.240 to killing Emily. He said that he was sailing back 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.600 from Tampa the day that she was killed. He said, 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:04.760 Emily and him broke up months ago. She lived with 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.720 him on the boat but got seasick, like just tied 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.600 to the dock she couldn't hack it. And then he 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.080 thinks she met someone else like her, and Tank took off. 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.800 Then they're like, give us an address. He somehow knows 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:16.560 her new address. 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:16.960 I don't know. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:18.879 I mean, when you break up with someone or you like, 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:20.280 can I get a forwarding address? 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:20.439 Like? 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:21.919 I know, it seems weird to me. 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:26.720 But they now are at Emily's apartment where they find Tank. 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.480 Thank god, poor little puppy. He's so hungry. He's like 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.119 eating jam off the ground. She's got Tiffany boxes, and 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.960 then Benson points out she's got a thousand dollars vase 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.080 on a yard sale end table. Benson always knows how 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.760 much stuff is, Like she knows designers. 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.679 She knows what's hot and what's not. Like she'll just look. 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.119 At like a pair of lingerie and be like, this 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.080 is two thousand dollars lingerie. She just knows like everything. 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.960 She's like she's a Manhattan girl. Yeah, it's like she's 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.800 reading Vogue in her spare time. It's really funny to me, 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.800 you know, because I think it always surprises like Stabler 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:59.919 in them because they're like shoes or shoes, and she's like, 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:03.080 these are manolos, Like she knows what's up all the time. 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.359 Stabler finds these paystubs show her working at a nail salon, 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:10.359 but back in January, so they're basically like someone's paying 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.400 her bills. Maybe it's this new boyfriend. He logs onto 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.480 her computer and immediately we get tastysugar dot com, which 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.240 I have to point out we posted on our Instagram 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:23.200 a few weeks ago, a few months ago a list 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.760 of all of the funny websites, and a bunch of 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.000 people were like you're missing Tasty Sugar, And it's just 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.240 because it's really hard to get a good screen grab 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.200 of it because they're kind of blocking it. But trust us, 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:35.880 we know that tastysugar dot com is a hilarious website. 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.600 And also it's just funny that whenever they find these 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.280 women on these escort sites, they're always like up at 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.640 their houses, like they were just recently on their own 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:47.880 escort profile. I guess always like they were never doing email. 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:51.160 They were just always just recently on their Tasty Sugar profile. 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.159 Maybe that's more realistic than I think. 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:56.720 I just have so many tabs open. If the cops came, 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.000 they'd be like, what's this bitch up to? I always 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.960 have at least twenty tabs open. 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.760 If you think they'd be like, Okay, she's either a 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:08.440 Bravo con she might be at a Simpsons convention. We 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:13.280 don't know where she is. She's shopping at Aso's. Okay, 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.000 So she has a video up on her profile that 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.520 just says, if you're into excitement, I'm into you. 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:20.560 I love these lines. They're so funny. 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:25.040 So obviously the cops go to Tasty Sugar to investigate 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:29.040 her role there, and the first person we meet is Lizette, 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:34.760 who is this statuesque supermodel woman who is like very beautiful, 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:35.440 very hot. 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.200 I would put her on like a top ten list 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:41.119 of administrative assistance of SVU. 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:43.320 Yeah, she would be number one for. 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.199 Sure, of all the women who say you can't go 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:47.240 in there, she's the hottest one we've seen. 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.720 Yes, and her makeup was really good. I just I 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:52.200 really liked everything. 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:56.320 Yeah, and they will we find out, Okay, So this 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.199 She explains that Tasty Sugar is one of a dozen 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:03.760 properties owned by Advance United. It's not a dating dating service. 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.800 They prefer to call it social networking with a romantic twist. 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.520 Benson says, I wish the precinct was like this, and 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:11.840 Stabler goes munch on a scooter, I'll pass. 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.640 Like, there's just so many funny. 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:18.160 Because basically this place is like Google, what you imagine Google, 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:22.120 or like a Silicon Valley places, like everybody's playing games 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.560 and messing around, and everybody's really hot and young. 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.439 But also what's wrong with Stabler? I would love to 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:30.160 see munch on a scooter? Yeah, that would make my life. 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:35.040 Come on, we see a cardboard cutout of Van Shepherd 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.440 played by Eric McCormick of Will and Grace fame. He's 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:40.960 like a CEO who believes work should be fun, says 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:41.600 his secretary. 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.160 Wait, this is very off topic, but did you see 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.920 when Ben Affleck and his latest girlfriend Anna to Arms 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.400 broke up. There's like a man throwing away a cardboard 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.080 cutout of her into his track. 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:54.560 Yes, and our friend Nicole Byer, who has a cardboard 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:56.800 cut out of herself in her house, was like, you'll 0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:58.400 never throw away my cardboard cut out. 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:03.639 You can't get rid of me twice but uh okay. 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:07.560 So Lisette, the secretary, the administrative assistant is going through 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:10.639 all their perks. They get free dry cleaning, catered meals, 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:14.200 rent breaks on soho lots, like everyone in this place 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:14.600 is hot. 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:15.560 They're all playing pool. 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:17.920 Olivia notices it immediately and is like, are they putting 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:20.280 something in the water, And she goes, we have a 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:23.119 generous health plan that includes cosmetic surgery, and like, I 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.199 don't think that is a thing I've never heard of 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:26.760 that I don't think that your health plan can like 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:28.560 include cosmetic surgery. 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.880 But maybe I know that my friend's health plan included 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:33.960 getting your eggs frozen, and so. 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:37.000 Yeah, reproductive stuff for sure, But I just don't think 0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.720 like you can get like your deviated septum fixed, But like, 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:42.160 I don't think you can just be like I want 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:42.760 a nose job. 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:43.199 I don't know. 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:47.600 Maybe maybe if you work at a cosmetic surgery, sure. 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:49.000 Yes, then you get services. 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.920 But if you are a listener and your job has 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.840 provided you with covery cosmetic surgery as part of your 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:55.639 health plan. 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:57.760 Do write in. I'd love to hear about it. 0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:00.920 Actually, when I was away tress back in the day, 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.840 my other waitress friend worked at another place, and she 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:05.920 said that the guy was such a creep. 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:07.480 He would make everyone dye their hair. 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:09.960 He would be like, I'll pay for your salon visits, 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.840 and he got girls tits and stuff. But it's because 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:14.320 he was a creep and would watch them on the 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.920 you know, he was not It wasn't of the kindness 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.760 of his heart. He was like a controlling psychopath who 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:22.280 watched them all on cameras and wanted everyone to be 0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:23.960 a brunette with big tits. 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.600 That's wild. So that's the it's not open anymore, I'll 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:26.879 say it. 0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:29.280 It was a salt and pepper diner, Oh Oh, made 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.280 famous from John Mulaney's joke off New Intown. 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:37.480 But yeah, so in Chicago. But if you do need. 0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:39.920 To get a breast reduction, I have had too, they 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.840 are covered, so make sure you do that well, right, because. 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:45.240 A breast reduction is like back problems and like that. 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:47.560 I just don't understand how you could like justify like 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:52.280 I need bigger tits like for my health. Okay, So 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:56.160 now we meet Vance, who I just cannot unsee him 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:58.119 as Will Truman on Will and Grace. It's like this 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:00.480 whole episode is predicated on him being like this horn 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.320 dog straight guy. And I know that the actor is 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:04.520 straight in real life, but it's like when I see 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:07.159 I'm so I just watch so much Will and Grace 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:09.920 that I have a hard time not picturing him as 0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:12.320 just like a funny gay man. But he doesn't like 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.880 Elliott's tie. AVU is a strictly a no tie zone. 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:18.440 And then he says, what can I do you for? 0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.240 So like this guy is basically just like the biggest 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.320 tool ever. They're like, we're here to talk to you 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.400 about tasty sugar, and he's like, do I own that? 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.560 Like such a tool like forgets what he owns. 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:31.239 They basically are like we're going to need access to 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:33.679 her accounts, her chats, the people that she talked to, 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.399 and he's like, yeah, I'm going to need a warrant, Like, 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:38.360 you know, you got to do this legally. I don't 0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:42.000 really like privately owned companies and the government intrusion happening. 0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:47.080 So they back at the precinct. The tech suddenly cannot 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:50.040 find Emily on Tasty Sugar anywhere, so they're like, oh, 0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:51.800 they must have taken it down, and she's like, wait, 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:53.400 I can still find it. Ever heard of the way 0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:55.760 Back machine, which like we all use, I feel like 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.960 all the time, And Olivia goes only the one that 0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:02.320 Sherman and mister Pody used, and Olivia is seriously dating 0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:03.160 herself because I. 0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:03.840 Had to google this. 0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.800 Sherman and Mister Peabody was a cartoon within the Rocky 0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:11.880 and Bullwinkle Show in the sixties, so it's like, oh, 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:13.800 I think there were just like some old man writers 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:15.720 in the room that were like, we'll give her this joke. 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.960 People will get it, and I don't. I don't think so. 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.120 So they do find Emily's page in the way Back 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:23.439 Machine and they see a link that's like, oh, if 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.800 you're shy at the bottom we can double date with 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.480 my bff Pamela, and Pamela's video is almost better than 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:33.040 Emily's looking for Excitement video. She just says, I'm looking 0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:38.520 for rich experiences. Email me, what would you be? I'm 0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:42.719 a lot of fun. I'm a lot of fun and 0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:46.680 I never shut up. Send me a message, what would 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:47.080 yours be? 0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.080 I think I'd just be like, I'll fuck you for money. 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:54.760 I don't know, no, I think I would also. 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:56.600 Be playing the game at all now. 0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.280 I think I would say, like, I enjoy rooftops and 0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.479 seafood and sex. 0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.560 Great, we're gonna get ourselves up on a sugar babysit asap. 0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:07.840 Two c. 0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.960 Who does better a pregnant woman who talks a lot 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:15.720 or a girl like seafood, towers and rooftops. Okay, we 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.400 cut to this girl, Pamela on a date with Elliott. 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.040 What we'd all love to be doing going on a 0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:25.480 fake date with Elliott's stabler. He's pouring champagne, he's being charming, 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:29.640 and it's really it's funny because it's like he's acting. 0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:32.879 I guess that this is part of the act, that 0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.240 he's acting like he has no idea what she's talking about. 0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.160 Or what this site is about at all, Like he's 0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.320 She's like five k's my minimum and I always fly 0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.840 for his class and he's like your minimum, Like he 0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:45.440 doesn't understand anything, and she's like, that's okay. My last 0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:48.480 daddy was a virgin too, which I didn't like that sentence. 0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:50.760 She's like, I need a charge card. 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.119 I can do weekends away, any weekends except for the 0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.720 last of the month. That's when my boyfriend's band plays, 0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.640 and I need to be there because I'm always there. 0:27:57.920 --> 0:27:59.160 And turns out her boyfriend chic. 0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:01.320 She has a fiance who's totally down with her being 0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.960 a sugar baby. So basically we cut to Elliott being like, Hey, 0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.280 i'd love if a friend came along. What about your 0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.280 friend Emily that I saw on the site with you? 0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:11.240 And she's like, it's gonna have to be a different 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.000 BFF because Emily's an idiot. 0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:14.440 She fell in love with a guy. 0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:16.920 He had so much fun on the date we went 0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.679 on that he said he was going to buy tasty sugar. 0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:23.360 So here's our clue that this guy is Vance Shepherd. 0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.280 And then she whips out her phone and there are 0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:29.440 pictures of Emily and Vance cozy cozy when they were 0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.440 on a date a few months prior, because he's only 0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:34.400 owned Tasty Sugar for three months, so obviously he bought 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:37.040 it because he had this magical date with Emily. So 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.720 now they bring vance into interrogation. He says he's got 0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.480 nothing to hide, and they're like, well, it's clear that 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:43.880 you do have something to hide, because you did not 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.680 say anything about this when you were there, and you 0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:49.080 don't even see that upset right now talking about this 0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:50.680 murdered girl that you went on a date with. 0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:52.680 Where were you the night Emily was murdered. 0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.280 He said he was having dinner with Lisette, his assistant, 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.160 and Lisette would never lie for me. He admits he 0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.400 lied about knowing Emily because he's the face of a 0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.800 private company and he has a seventeen year old daughter 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.080 named Chantell. He references his ex wife Joyce, who has 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:09.280 anger issues. He says he joined Tasty Sugar because he's 0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.560 busy and it's just easier to have an arrangement, and 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.960 Tasty Sugar obviously is sort of similar to like Ashley Madison. 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.240 Well, Ashley Madison is just if you want to cheat 0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:17.600 on your. 0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.120 Pregnant oh, just for cheating, But you can find sugar 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.760 babies on there too, I think, jo, yeah, I knew 0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.040 a girl who wrote an article about being a sugar 0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.760 baby from Ashley Madison. But anyway, so they're talking to 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.760 him and he's like, you don't understand. It was different 0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.760 with me and Emily. I took her to museums, I 0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.200 encourage her to go to college. I brought at her horizons. 0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:38.160 And then Elliott says to Olivia, how many times have 0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.200 we heard this song? And she's like, oh, the Ballad 0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.479 of the Loving John at least once a week. So 0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.760 again we're just NonStop with the one liners. This episode 0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.560 was like clearly written by comedians. So then he admits 0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:50.840 that he probably tried to help Emily Moore because he's 0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.000 screwed up so badly with his own daughter, which I 0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.040 don't know. This is very creepy, but he admits that 0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.680 he was like not the best dad, worked long hours, 0:29:57.720 --> 0:29:59.719 gone all the time because of his business and stuff. 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.520 He said he loved Emily with all of his heart, 0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:04.680 and he broke up with her to test her to 0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.960 see if she loved him or just his bank account. 0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:11.640 That happened Wednesday afternoon, That's the night that she went missing, 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.960 She cried, pleaded, then got pissed and said she was 0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.360 going to go hook up with her old boyfriend. He 0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.080 says she came to his place at three and was 0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:20.240 gone by three forty five. 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:22.640 So they're really like, well, what was the rest of 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:23.320 your day like? 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.440 And he doesn't really like how pushy there being sweet 0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.600 calls his lawyer. Then we segued to kind of these 0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.440 sort of quick testimonials almost that remind me of early 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:35.400 Sex in the City episodes, when people used to talk 0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:38.560 right to the camera. Oh I know remember, and so 0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:40.760 like people are like, oh, yeah, I trained him at 0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:41.360 five am. 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.280 Oh yeah, we had a business meeting at nine. 0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:45.720 Like everyone's just talking, and then like the waitress that 0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.120 sat him for lunch knows exactly what time he left 0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:49.160 and when his crowd came in. 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:50.200 Blah blah blah. 0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:53.600 So he's got alibis all day up until two forty five. 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.720 But then that would have given him time to still 0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.680 murder Emily, except he was supposed to have his daughter's 0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:03.160 soccer game at four o'clock. So now we go meet Chantelle, 0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:08.440 his daughter, who talks about her little soccer game and 0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.760 how it was they beat them, and I was like, 0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:12.920 I'm surprised Stabler didn't like know the score and like 0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.520 the schedule of the soccer calendar at New York private schools, 0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.160 because that just seems like Stabler'd be like, oh yeah, 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.640 the monarchs, our lady of perpetual help, I know your school, Like. 0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.880 She reminds me of the oldest daughter and missus doubtfire 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.760 this Chantelle, Oh yeah, that's the way I got from her. 0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:29.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:31.400 So they're like, was your dad at your soccer game? 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.680 And she's like, yep, he was, And then her mom 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.800 jumps in and is like, Chantelle, don't lie for that bastard. 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.320 She was in tears because he never showed up at 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.720 the game. I'm always the one that has to pick 0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:44.120 up the pieces when he disappoints her. And then Chantelle's like, 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.360 oh yeah, because you're never a bitch and storms off. 0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.600 It's just always I'm sorry. 0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:52.480 But I can't imagine them being married, Like this is crazy, 0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.960 it's a weird. There's no way, there's no way that 0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.920 he married this like Upper east Side. 0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:00.880 I just I don't see it. 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.320 I don't see these people together and I don't see 0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.280 them giving birth to this child. 0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.920 Like nothing makes sense lineage wise. 0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.560 Yeah, but I mean it also seems like he's one 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.600 of these guys that might have also, like really focused 0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:15.920 on his appearance and gotten things nipped and tucked. So 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:17.800 he looks a little younger than he is, you know, 0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.320 because she looks like the mother of a seventeen year old. 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.840 You know, he doesn't necessarily look like the father of 0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:23.720 a seventeen year old. 0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.800 So, and my dad always taught me, like, if someone's lying, 0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.560 like you don't need to shut up, talk about it later. 0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.680 You don't call people out while they're lying, if that's 0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.040 someone you care about. So, like, he lied once and 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:37.240 I was like nah, And he goes, why, I'm your dad, 0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:38.120 Who the fuck is this? 0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.760 Like, let me lie? And I was like, oh yeah, 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.000 good point. So it's like, if your daughter's lying to 0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.840 the cops, let her have it. What are you getting involved? 0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.440 Well, because she hated him, Well, then we get into 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.880 this because she hates him, yes, like she has a 0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:51.720 Really I'm. 0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.320 Just going to listen to the listeners. 0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.800 If your loved one is lying, you let them lie 0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:57.400 and then you talk about it later. 0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.440 Yeah, bring it up later, cover them. 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:03.040 So yeah, Chantal calls her mama bitch and storms off, 0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:04.840 which seems like par for the course of New York 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:09.280 City children treating their parents. I say that as a 0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:11.280 person with cousins who grew up in New York City. 0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:17.240 And Joyce basically gives her read on Dvance, which is 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.520 that he's a child. He craves attention, he throws fits, 0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.920 he's like into youth culture, like he texts more than chantale. 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.960 He never physically hurt them, but came close, and she said, 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:30.120 mentally hurt me every moment of our marriage. He filed 0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.680 for divorce two days after I had a double misssectomy, 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.720 she says. So you're thinking, Wow, what an asshole. But 0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:37.600 then we get back to Vance and he's like, she 0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:40.520 had a missectomy because she's a hypochondriac. She saw something 0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:42.840 about the gene which he's referring to the Broca gene, 0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.080 and got a preventative messectomy despite having not having the 0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:50.920 gene and having no family history. I mean, okay, that's 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:53.040 her choice. Though she wants to get her boobs removed. 0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.040 I know people that have done that. It's like whatever, 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:55.760 you know. 0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.920 Yeah, but he's clearly a superficial guy, So that's not 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:00.640 going to fly for me, right it's right if. 0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:01.440 They ever loved each other. 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.120 But I don't really like him painting her as like crazy. Like, 0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.200 you know, breast cancer is scary. A lot of people 0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:07.840 are scared of it, and people will do stuff like 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.560 getting prevented of mistectomy, So I don't think it's that crazy. 0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.160 Stabler points out that he never showed up at the game. 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:15.279 Vance said he was upset about the breakup, so he 0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.799 stayed home, had a drink and met his assistant for 0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.319 like later, and Stabler's like basically just in his face 0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:24.359 being like, admit it, admitted you did this, and then 0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:29.040 in walks his classic defense attorney Dwight Stanich played by 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:34.080 Robert Klein, a very famous, well known actor. He represented 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.799 Carol Burnett in her episode. He also represented Jordan in 0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.080 the episode Flight. That's like an early Epstein episode that 0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:44.319 they did, so he he's definitely someone they bring in 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.480 for like the big the heavy cases. 0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.879 My favorite rom com is How to Lose a Guy 0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.400 in Ten Days. He plays McConaughey's boss. 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:53.960 He's been in so many damn things. 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.440 I also did a show with him at Caroline's one time. 0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.919 Oh yeah, son was there. 0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.880 He comes in with a DVD footage of security coverage 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:07.720 from the building and shows footage of Emily leaving Vance's 0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:09.920 building at exactly the same time that he said she 0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:16.480 was at three forty five in Walks. Sonya Paxton, this 0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:17.479 is my gray Lick. 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:21.120 Like you hate gray Lick, then she's my number one hatred. 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:25.000 I just like, I understand why and I trust me. 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:26.759 At the beginning, I was like, she's too much. But 0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.600 I just love this actress. I think Christine Latti is 0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.000 such a talented actress. I've been watching her my whole life, 0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:34.560 and I think she's so good. And this is like 0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:36.239 the kind of part I would want to play, like 0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.040 I would want to play someone like this, Like she's 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.160 just such a bit. She's always telling Stabler that he's 0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.880 an idiot and that he's wrong, like and he's not 0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.399 right all the time, and so sometimes she's right. 0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.200 So I but I think she has a journey. 0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:51.200 As I've said, as I've commented on our show's Instagram page, 0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:52.240 She's had a journey. 0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:55.000 She went into recovery. Listen. I just think we need 0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.239 to give Sonya Paxton a chance. I like her, and 0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:00.479 she did have a tragic end for you know. Yes. 0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.399 Spoiler alert if you haven't watched, she does not she's 0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:04.480 not long for this world. 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:06.719 So Sonia walks in. 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:08.200 And she's like, say you just let him off the 0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.640 hook like bust is us on prostitution. And then we 0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:14.719 have like sort of an interesting conversation between Sonya and 0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:19.080 Olivia about sex work, where Olivia is kind of like, 0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.200 there's nothing wrong with what these girls do on Tasty Sugar, 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:25.480 Like you know, it's like this is what people can 0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.480 Some people consider this work and like that's that's our 0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.879 belief right, that sex work is work, and Sonya is. 0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:33.120 Just like, it's prostitution. 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:35.719 It's the oldest profession in the world, like you know, 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:37.640 and she's like, I can't believe you don't agree with me, 0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:39.439 and Olivia's like why because all women have to agree 0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:43.279 on everything together. So it's an interesting little spat and 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.160 it's about and it's interesting because the episode is from 0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:48.120 it's from two thousand and nine, so it's from like 0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:49.760 eleven or twelve years ago, and it's. 0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.840 Still a relevant conversation. You know. The show's always tapping 0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:54.720 on into these issues. 0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:59.160 Yeah, there is an episode this current season about camming 0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:04.040 exactly what there it's it is really upsetting to see 0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.719 how we never move forward even though we think we 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:08.600 do sometimes. 0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:12.200 Yeah, but basically they're like, uh, let's go back to 0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.720 the secretary. She's got to know something. This secretary always 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:16.840 knows something. And they're like, we already talked to the secretary. 0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:18.120 Do you think you can do a better job? And 0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:19.000 she's like watch me. 0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:22.120 So now they get into they're back at Tasty Sugar. 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.600 Now Sonya's with them with Benson and Stabler. They're questioning 0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.680 was set and she's like, you would never lie for him, right. 0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.799 Even after he bought you that very impressive rack. 0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.120 And then she has this little monologue where she's like 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.400 everything is my business, your boobs, your boss, your belligerent 0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.120 little attitude. You better start talking before I throw you 0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:40.960 in lock up where you're that cute little body of 0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.040 yours will get you all the attention you can handle, 0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.560 which is pretty fucked up, like to basically threaten someone 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.360 with like your you will be assaulted when you go 0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:49.640 to jail, and I don't think you want. 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:53.000 But also, did she have a bad attitude? She seems 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.680 pretty nice, like I don't I know, but that's Sonya. 0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:56.399 This whole thing. 0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.520 Sonya's gonna find an attitude where there's no attitude like 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:04.400 so she but she's They're really focusing on Lysette's chest 0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:08.360 a lot, which I would love to find out a 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.400 little bit more about whether the actress was okay with that, 0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:16.000 because uh, you're they're like, your trial's coming up soon. 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.680 By the way, your double the alibi here is pretty shaky. 0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.160 I mean there's like literally a comment every ten seconds 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:25.080 about this woman's chest, which I guess her work paid for. Anyway, 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.840 they're about to start combing through Grand Central security tapes 0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:32.440 when Lazette shows up at the precinct and says, I 0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.000 can't lie for Vance anymore. She hands them a bloody 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:38.399 shirt and she goes that lady scared me, so say 0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:39.440 what you want about Sonia. 0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.279 But she fucking got her. Man, she did it. 0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:44.960 Vance got to her place, but later than he said 0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.759 he did. He was disheveled, freaked out. They barely made 0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.040 their reservation. He had told her he got bumped by 0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.960 a cab and knocked down on the crosswalk and then 0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:54.799 gave her this shirt with blood on it to get 0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:56.799 dry cleaned and told her not to tell anyone. And 0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:59.280 then he says, She says, I think my boss killed 0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:04.080 that girl. So now we've got They arrest him back 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:07.000 at Google Tasty Sugar, where he's like about to make 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.040 a basket to determine who gets to go home for 0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:11.080 the day. He's like such a tool and they show 0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:14.560 up midshot and they arrest him. So Vance is in 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:18.239 interrogation and he admits that Emily broke up with him 0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:20.239 and that he was too turns out he was too 0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.719 old for her, and he's kind of like lamenting and 0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.480 he's confessing to everything, and Sonya busts in is like, 0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:29.399 shut your mouth, Vance, do not say another word. And 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.879 they're like, he will not speak until counsel is here, 0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:33.680 and Olivia is like, he already waved his right to 0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:35.680 counsel twice, and Sonya is like, do not. 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:36.479 Say another word. 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:40.720 He is clearly distraught, and that's exactly what his defense attorney, 0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.400 Dwight Stanich will argue and the confession will be completely 0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:46.120 thrown out. So she knows her shit because she's probably 0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:46.799 not wrong here. 0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:49.000 Now, I'm always on the side of the cops. I 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.640 would hate if someone interrupted my interrogation, of. 0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:56.440 Course, but wouldn't you what if your interrogation was at 0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:58.480 risk of being completely thrown into the garbage. 0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:00.560 Oh so Sonya can break the rule and run and 0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.239 harass this woman at her job. But yeah, we have 0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:06.120 to follow the rules. Yeah, how is the shirt not 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.040 going to be thrown out? You threatened that she's going 0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.480 to get assaulted in prison, So no ah. 0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:12.200 No, she came with the shirt on her own. I 0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:12.879 don't know. 0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.520 I agree with you, Sonya is bending the rules, but 0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:19.640 like she definitely I think doesn't owe the cops to 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.120 finish their interrogation if they're getting it from a distraught 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:23.520 witness and it's going to get thrown out. 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:25.919 I learned this at the law school of svu AD 0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:28.919 that I think Sonya's right. I thought I was about 0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:30.520 to learn something new about you that you went to 0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:36.120 law school. Hello. Yeah, the USA Network of Law merch. 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:40.640 So Stabler kind of like grabs Sonya on the way out, 0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:42.799 which is like not a great look, like he you know, 0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:44.960 he should not be like man handling her, and then 0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:46.600 he calls her a sanctimonious bitch. 0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:48.520 She calls him an adolescent ahole. 0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:51.439 And then meanwhile Vance is banging on the glass being 0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:53.040 like hello, I did it. 0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:54.520 Can somebody listen to me? 0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.600 So then we cut to the arraignment, which is kind 0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:00.600 of a wreck because Advance keeps pleading guilty even though 0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:02.239 his lawyer tells him to shut up and says that 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.200 he's not guilty. Sonya asks for five million in bail, 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.000 the defense asks for one hundred k. The bail is 0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:11.200 set at a million dollars, but the lawyer reveals that basically. 0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.000 His strategy is extreme emotional distress. 0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.160 That his company had recently lost a lot of money, 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:17.919 plus the breakup, all of this just kind of caused 0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.120 him to snap, and that's the argument that they're going 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.759 to use. So now Sonya's like, we have to find 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:26.360 footage from him at Grand Central getting on that train 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.280 to kill Emily because we need proof that his extreme 0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:33.359 emotional disturbance defense is bullshit. So they're looking at all 0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:37.200 of this footage. They are striking out. They're not finding 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.839 vans anywhere. Sonya lights up a cigarette and then goes, 0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:41.480 what are you going to do? 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.960 Bust me? Like, it's just it's so true. It's what 0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:45.239 you say. That's what's annoying about her. 0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:47.480 She thinks she can break the rules when she wants, 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:49.640 but no one else can break the rules, or no 0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:51.520 one else can fuck up but what's. 0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:53.759 Interesting is the moment she lit the cigarette, I was like, 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:57.240 I like you now I liked it was the opposite. 0:41:57.360 --> 0:41:59.960 I was like, yeah, try to smoke inside. Actually I 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.480 wanted it made me want a cigarette. They need to 0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:04.920 put her in some commercials. I mean, it's illegal to 0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:08.120 have cigarette, so your commercials are not a thing anymore. No, 0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.560 they haven't been for so can they even advertise in 0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:12.560 magazines anymore? 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.359 That's been illegal too, right, I don't think so. Yeah. 0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:21.520 Damn, poor cigarette companies. They can't advertise anywhere. 0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:25.280 Okay. 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:29.320 So finally, in the midst of the arguing over the cigarette, 0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:33.399 Olivia spots a full frontal shot of Emily getting onto 0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.400 the train and they realize that Emily isn't Emily. 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:37.240 Okay. 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:41.040 So now Stabler goes to see Vance in lock up 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.840 and he's like, you didn't kill Emily, And we're basically 0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:49.040 getting these two cross cut scenes, okay, of Benson talking 0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:53.200 to Chantelle the daughter, and Stabler talking to Vance, and 0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:56.040 they're going back and forth, kind of explaining what happened 0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:59.200 and making excuses in Chantelle's like, you think I killed 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.400 that girl? And then Olivi's like, hell, yes, I do 0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:04.560 you killed her and you wheeled her into Grand Central 0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.960 masquerading as her, and then they show her the photo, 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.360 so she has no choice kind of but to confess. 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.760 She starts confessing that she was at her dad's place. 0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.879 Emily came in. Sean Teal didn't even know that her 0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.520 dad was dating anyone. She just knew that he was 0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.760 blowing her off for some reason, and she couldn't believe 0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:25.359 that he was dating someone so young, like basically just 0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:27.680 a little bit older than her. And she said when 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:29.440 Emily smiled at her like they were going to be 0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.880 best friends, she just kind of snapped and it went blurt. 0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:33.400 She grabbed her by her neck, and she said it 0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.799 felt so good. Van says he walked in saw her 0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.000 lying there. Her eyes were open, but she was cold. 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:40.959 This is why I don't really get the bloody shirt. 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:42.319 It doesn't really seem like there was a lot of 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.200 blood in this crime, so I don't really understand where 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.520 the bloody shirt would have been a good piece. 0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:49.080 Of it was when they had to n angle her 0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.920 body to get in the suit into the suitcase. I 0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:53.840 also wanted to say, this is one of my favorite 0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:56.960 tropes of Sview is when they watched the footage over 0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.000 and over and over, and everyone's like, go home, what 0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:00.960 do you think you're gonna find? And then the footage 0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.680 has the answer, yeah that I get really satisfied in those. 0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:07.440 Because they have boxes and boxes of Grand Central footage. 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:09.280 I mean, it's like one of the busiest train stations 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:13.040 in the world, Like it's really wild. So Vance walks 0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:16.480 finds Emily and then Chantelle says, Daddy, I did something 0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:19.719 real bad, and she said he spun around for a 0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.799 second and he looked so scared, like Chantelle was going 0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:24.760 to kill him too, as she had like a dead 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.239 look in her eyes. And he says I made her 0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:30.240 that way by being a bad dad or never being around. 0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:33.600 So he admits to taking off Emily's clothes putting her 0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.320 in the suitcase. He said he was crying while he 0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:39.360 did it, and then Chantelle's like, he never cries over me. 0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:41.839 It's like, okay, Well, I would say putting your ex 0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:45.760 girlfriend in a suitcase dead is sort of cry worthy, 0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:49.879 but Chantelle likes to make it all about her. He 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.400 told Chantale to put on Emily's clothes and bring the 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.879 suitcase down to Florida so that the old boyfriend would 0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.520 take the blame. Then the train is delayed, so she 0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:00.000 just takes she just pushed that whore out the window. 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:03.480 And Chantelle looks like a total lunatic when she's recounting 0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:04.239 her side of the sty but. 0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:06.360 It's alwayso like, what an idiot sticks to the plan. 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.160 So what if it's a delayed train, you just murdered someone? 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:09.520 Yeah? 0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.080 Right, because I bet you if she just rode the 0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:15.000 train to Florida, they wouldn't have gotten caught. 0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.040 I guess not, because anytime you go to a different state, 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:20.680 I feel like that's when killers like rule because nobody 0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:23.759 talks to each other, so there's all kinds of jurisdiction 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:26.400 stuff and that, Yeah, they would have just blamed Owen. 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:31.000 So Vance basically knew that this whole plan was falling 0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:32.560 apart when he found out that they were going to 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.600 look at the tapes and of Grant's central and then 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:36.800 knew that they weren't going to see him doing anything, 0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:40.359 so he had Lasette bring the bloody shirt and told 0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:44.279 her to blame him, and Chantelle's like, isn't that great? 0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:46.759 My dad's taking the blame. That proves my daddy loves me. 0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:50.600 Right, It's all very sad Benson is like, that's not 0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:53.239 what's happening. And Chantelle's like, well, maybe your daddy never 0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:56.880 loved you, and Benson's like he didn't, but I still 0:45:56.920 --> 0:46:00.839 know that this is wrong. So it's interesting saying like 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.680 Benson doesn't. That doesn't really throw Benson the hole. Your 0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:06.200 daddy never loved you. She's like, yeah, I know. And 0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:10.640 Vance says, Stabler, you do the same thing. And he's like, 0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:12.440 please just let me see my daughter one more time. 0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.280 Because they're like, the jig is up. Your daughter's definitely 0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.440 going to get justice for this. They walk Vance into 0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.759 the precinct. They let Chantelle out of a holding cell and. 0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:22.439 She's like, Daddy, you said it would work. 0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:25.360 And she's like sobbing and he's like, they found out, sweetheart, 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.320 they found out somehow. They let Vance take his cuffs off. 0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:32.080 They start hugging and she's like, I'm so sorry, and 0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:35.520 she's like, I'm sorry too, daddy, and then she twist 0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:38.279 grabs a pair of scissors off of one of the 0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:40.400 desks in the precinct. This is all going down in 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.759 the sixteenth Precinct, by the way, and she stabs her 0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.719 father Vance in the neck with a pair of scissors, 0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.439 and then as he's lying there bleeding out, she goes, 0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:54.160 you'll never break another promise to me. Sonia looks shook. 0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:58.680 She is eyes have tears in them. Immediately she is horrified. 0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:02.160 Everyone else is standing there laughing. 0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:04.480 I don't know why I'm laughing. But there's like a 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:05.200 bloodied man. 0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:08.319 But no, but everybody is frozen and just watching this 0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.120 man bleed out, like I think Stabler tries to help 0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:11.879 him a little bit, but it's like he I think 0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:13.279 she stabbed him right in his. 0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:16.000 Like, what is this one? An important one? Is this 0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:20.640 the carotid? No, that one's in your butt? Okay? 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:23.960 And so everyone just stands there as Vance dies. And 0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:25.239 that's the end of the episode. 0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.080 And I hope you guys are impressed because it is 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.399 the sixteenth Precinct and this is our sixteenth episode, and 0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:32.760 we did this on purpose. 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:33.719 We did this for you. 0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:37.120 If you think we're just willy nilly doing stuff, we 0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:41.200 have themes. You know, we're trying to make connections. And 0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:42.840 I'm pretty impressed with this one. 0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:44.640 This is what I love about this show is that 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.760 so much actually goes down in the Precinct, Like people 0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:51.880 attack each other, people spot their rapists, Like, I just 0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.320 don't think this much goes down in an actual precinct, 0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:56.279 but at this precinct, it's where the action is. 0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.239 And I don't know where I read this or I 0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:01.640 saw it, or maybe I did make this, but I 0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:04.080 felt like professionals talked about this and said that a 0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:06.239 moment like this would never happen, Like they would never 0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:07.560 undercuff a guy. 0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.480 Right and let him meet his daughter right. 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:12.680 Now, like that would never be allowed. Like a meet 0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:18.160 and greet doesn't happen when you've committed murder doesn't happen. 0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:22.239 So we're thankful for the sixteenth Precinct and all the 0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:24.879 drama that it has given us. And we'll be back 0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:27.240 in a second for Lisa to tell me all about 0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:28.400 the true crime. 0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.960 All right, So the crime happened six weeks before this 0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:52.960 episode came out, so it is pretty close. So I 0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.440 don't know if it was fully inspired or there was 0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:58.279 forshe I don't know, or SV willed this crime to. 0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.239 Happen inspired detail. 0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:05.879 Yeah, So it's just a little serendipitous or coincidental that 0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:10.840 these things happen so close together. Also, this crime involves 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:15.520 a lot of reality television, which is something we enjoy. 0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:19.879 But so this is the darker side of reality if 0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:21.000 you needed to know about it. 0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:26.359 So we have this guy, Ryan Jenkins, and he is 0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:30.000 a Canadian guy and he comes to Vegas and he 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:37.120 wants to be famous and important. He seems like narcissist, sociopath, lunatic, liar, 0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:40.520 like he claims to be a millionaire. He's a cabana 0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:44.040 pool boy type. He's just spending money, live in the 0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:48.840 Vegas life. And then there's casting agents wildly in Vegas 0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:50.840 and see him and they go, hey. 0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:53.480 You seem perfect for something we're working on. 0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:57.560 And this show that they find him for is called 0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:01.359 Megan Wants a Millionaire. So I don't know if any 0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:04.000 of you remember this, but it was a reality show. 0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:07.440 And Meghan is this former playboy playmate and she's done 0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:08.160 lots of shows. 0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:08.920 She was on like. 0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.960 Charms School with Brett Hart and Beauty in the Geek. 0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:16.319 She's just been on reality television. And so they pick 0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:19.919 this Ryan, thirty two year old real estate developer from 0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:22.880 Calgary to come on the show and be one of 0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:28.080 these millionaires that Megan wants to date. Now they end 0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:32.920 up having a side relationship within the show, like they 0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:37.800 click really well, and so they were texting and iaming 0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:42.480 and communicating outside of filming, which is usually not I aming. 0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:47.879 That little thing with like when the door opens, when 0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:49.320 your person comes on, and they. 0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.719 I mean, I remember my junior highday or was it 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:56.680 high school, but I remember my whole computer screen was 0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.600 filmed with I AM filled with I AM chats. I'd 0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.480 be talking like fifteen people at once, all the time 0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:06.760 about fucking nothing. So he also has like a goatee, 0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:09.040 which is pretty disgusting. 0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:12.160 And then there's a guy on this. 0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:15.600 Show too that I remember from Millionaire Matchmaker called Dave Levine, 0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:17.480 And in this crime show that I was watching, he 0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:19.560 was doing an interview and he's like, yeah, once you're 0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.320 on TV, people are excited, and it's like, sir, no one. 0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:23.239 Cares about you. How dare you? 0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:30.320 Anyways, So Megan and Ryan are having like extra conversations 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:32.200 and she's like, I'm gonna pick you. I like you, 0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:36.520 YadA YadA, And then the producers actually reach out to 0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:40.160 her and they're like, listen, everyone hates him. The audience 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.640 will not like him. He's a liar. Everything he's telling 0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:45.080 you is lies. We can see that, Like he just 0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:48.360 tells people whatever they want to hear. He is not legit. 0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.200 The audience will turn on you. You cannot pick Ryan. 0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:54.359 He is not the one. But she already told him 0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:56.399 I'm going to pick you. So he flies in his 0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:59.279 father and then he gets kicked out in front of 0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:03.480 his father and he's fucking pissed, and so he leaves 0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:07.279 the show embarrassed, rejected, and for someone that has the 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:10.920 clearer personality disorders he has, this is not good news. 0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:15.400 So he goes back to Vegas with a vengeance, and 0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:21.399 basically he meets this woman, Jasmine Fior, and she is beautiful. 0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:25.759 Her idol is Marilyn Monroe and so she you know, 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:30.000 she has Breaston plans. She's beautiful, blonde and wants to 0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:32.719 be famous and be like a sexual icon and be 0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:37.880 wanted by men. She's from originally a small town outside 0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:41.960 of Santa Cruz called Bonnie Dune, which reminds me of 0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:49.279 Boone's Farm Liquor, but it does not. And so she's 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:53.040 living in Vegas and they end up meeting. So they 0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:57.000 end up getting married within forty eight hours at the 0:52:57.080 --> 0:53:00.520 Little White Wedding Chapel, which is very fam and we 0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:02.080 have friends that just got married there. 0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:05.319 But they're they're like each other. They've been together for 0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:09.479 more than for two days. Yes, I would say years. Years. 0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:16.640 Years after filming, Meghan reaches out from Megan wants a millionaire, 0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:21.120 reaches out to Ryan, going the show's over, let's kick it, 0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:23.680 and he goes, I don't need you. I have a 0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.360 hot blonde and we're married. Go fuck yourself. So the 0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.200 producers and everyone is like, yeah, this was like a 0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:32.440 revenge thing where he just needed you know, he. 0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:35.640 Called me interesting. I read about this case, but you 0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:38.319 did much more in depth. Like I didn't hear any 0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:40.280 of this stuff about Meghan and like how he married 0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:41.919 because I was like, you know, it's a red flag 0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:44.440 when someone gets married after two days. I didn't realize 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:46.400 it was just like a full revenge wedding. 0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:49.640 Yeah, like this was his way of quote unquote winning 0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:52.359 the show because he got rejected, and it's this way 0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:54.840 of being like, fuck you, Meghan, I have like a hotter, 0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:59.560 blonder woman. And so the relationship is fucked up and 0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:04.160 the detail of the relationship. Basically, his visa was running 0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:07.279 out and he needed to be married to stay in 0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:10.640 the country, so he offered Jasmine ten thousand dollars to 0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:13.600 be able to stay in the country, and she wanted 0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:16.479 money and so she did it, but the money never came. 0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:19.560 And this is the same thing with me on the 0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:21.920 set of the show, like he'd be like, Oh, my 0:54:22.000 --> 0:54:24.640 money's in Canada, I can't get it transferred. Oh, we're 0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.839 having bank problems. And also they noticed on the set 0:54:27.840 --> 0:54:29.759 of the show that he only brought one pair of 0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:32.759 pants and he had a fake rolex, so it's like, 0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:36.080 you are not a millionaire, sir. And the producers did 0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:38.359 say they're like, we needed some fakes because that's kind 0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:40.959 of the fun too for the audience, like that God's lying. 0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:44.799 So Jasmine and Ryan are married, Jasmine's not getting her 0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:47.280 money and she ends up having to pay for everything 0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:50.600 and fronting a lot of money for their kind of 0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:54.759 I wouldn't say lavish lifestyle, but like show weed lifestyle. 0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:58.160 And she dated like a UFC fighter or an MMA 0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:01.840 something with check Ledell. She's been on red carpets before 0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:02.400 and stuff. 0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:03.759 And then, according to. 0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:09.840 Jasmine's friend Marta Montoya, there were problems with the marriage 0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:12.080 a month into it, which makes sense when you get 0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:13.240 married to someone within. 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.760 Forty eight hours. So and then it all. 0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:18.080 Came to a head where they were at a cocktail party, 0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:22.000 and Jasmine started talking to this man David, and then 0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:24.560 started making out with him, which is an insane thing 0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:26.560 to do when you're at a party with your husband. 0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:29.480 But Ryan sees that she's making out with this guy 0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:33.160 named David and shoves her and then shoves her into 0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:36.560 the pool. So she's pushed in the pool, and she 0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:40.040 files a police report, and he serves two days in jail. 0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:44.080 And she's dealt with an abusive relationship before and so 0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:47.080 she wasn't about to take this so you push her 0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:47.600 in the pool. 0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:48.279 No, thank you. 0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.160 So after all of that, she ended up moving to 0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:54.319 an apartment in LA and then he followed her and 0:55:54.400 --> 0:55:56.960 she kind of let him. And her friend said, and 0:55:57.040 --> 0:55:58.680 I don't know how real of a friend this is. 0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:02.480 This is Vegas clubs, but this girl Marto was just 0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:06.600 like she liked being lusted for by Ryan, even though 0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:08.880 I bet she knew it was unhealthy and it was 0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:09.399 fucked up. 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:11.680 She tried to go to La. He followed her. She 0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:14.200 was into it, so she let him get in there. 0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:17.920 So then in this apartment he ended up cheating on 0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:21.480 her and taking a lover and like having her find 0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:23.880 them on purpose to get back at her, like this 0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:27.920 is just not a healthy individual or situation. And Jasmine 0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:31.719 asks for an annulment, and he starts reaching out to 0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:36.319 Megan from this reality TV show and then he right 0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:39.400 as this annulment, all this drama is happening, he signs 0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:41.680 up for I Love Money Season three. 0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:45.560 So, and these are all like VH one shows, right correct? 0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:50.360 Yeah, these are viacom reality shows because I remember Joe Millionaire, 0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:53.080 I remember Who Wants to Marry I remember this Sign 0:56:53.280 --> 0:56:54.759 of Culture for sure, and. 0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:57.719 Like Rock of Love, Rock of Love bus like all 0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:01.479 of those Slave Love New York. Yeah, yeah, Flavor Flave 0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:04.600 I watched, I remember Pompkin for I remember Flavor Flame 0:57:04.719 --> 0:57:05.720 has star quality. 0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:10.000 Yeah, let's get Flavor Flame on a fucking SVU. That 0:57:10.040 --> 0:57:14.520 would be an amazing cameo. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's great. 0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:16.520 Are you clicking and clacking to see if he's still 0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:17.120 alive or what? 0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:21.120 Flava Flav was definitely still live. I'm sorry, I am no. 0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:23.720 I was gonna say Megan was on Rock of Love, 0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:25.479 did you yes? Yeah? Yeah? 0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:28.560 And she was on Charms School with Brett, I said 0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:34.680 Brett Hart, Brett Michaels, Okay, so by Brett Harr, who's 0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:37.720 a wrestler. He did not do Rock of Love. It's 0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:42.840 Brett Michaels from a band. So he signs up for 0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:46.160 I Love Money Season three, and he flies to Mexico 0:57:46.240 --> 0:57:49.760 for a month of shooting. And during this time, this 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.480 is all like, this is such a e gossip, But 0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:54.200 I don't know if you guys are listening, like get 0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:57.320 to the murder bitch. But all of this background, I 0:57:57.360 --> 0:57:59.680 do feel makes sense and it is kind of a 0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:03.200 ju see until it's just awful. She starts hanging out 0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:06.080 with this guy, Robert Hassman, and she hangs out with 0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:10.720 him while Ryan is filming and starts filling out paperwork. Now, 0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:14.120 if you're wondering, oh, why didn't I see I Love 0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:18.200 Money Season three, it's because they had never aired it 0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:21.320 because he was the winner and also a murderer, so 0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:25.080 they never aired this season of television. 0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:27.480 If you're wondering what happened. 0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:30.880 But he did win, and so the producers talk about 0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:35.080 how during this and once he realized he was gonna win, 0:58:35.520 --> 0:58:38.880 he was messaging Jasmine going I'm gonna win this money. 0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:40.439 I'm gonna give us the life. 0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:43.000 I always promise I'm obsessed with you, like I want 0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:45.840 to be with you, and you know, she likes money 0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:47.480 and she's into it. But what's fucked up is the 0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:50.959 producers we're hearing and seeing all of this and thought 0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:54.040 it was a funny storyline, like they couldn't wait to 0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:56.680 put this in the show of him being like obsessed 0:58:56.680 --> 0:59:01.000 with this model girlfriend, and they saw no danger in 0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:05.880 these communications. And so he sent that email to her 0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:07.560 being like, I love you. I'm going to give you 0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:11.479 all this light love and stuff. July twenty seventh, two 0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:13.880 thousand and nine. So that's when she gets the email 0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:18.960 of professing true and lasting love. So she's like, okay, 0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:23.840 I'll do that. So he comes back and she dyed 0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:27.880 her hair brown for a news fresh start, and so 0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:31.760 she's a brunette now and they're together. So then on 0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:37.080 August thirteenth, two thousand and nine, they check into I 0:59:37.120 --> 0:59:40.480 don't know how to say this, laa barrage, laberage whatever, 0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:45.560 the Delmar Robierge Laberge del Mar Hotel in San Diego 0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:50.480 for a poker tournament, and a few days later, her 0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:54.520 body is found in a suitcase in a dumpster in 0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:59.200 LA And so you might be wondering, like what happened 0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:04.880 between this poker tournament get away to Jasmine's body being 1:00:04.960 --> 1:00:07.920 found in a suitcase in a dumpster. 1:00:08.560 --> 1:00:10.120 It's pretty fucking horrific. 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:14.840 So basically, they go to this hotel tournament and while 1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:20.120 he's playing poker, she's texting her ex, Robert Hassman, and 1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:23.680 then they get into her white They get into Jasmine's 1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:26.280 white Mercedes to go back to the hotel from the 1:00:26.320 --> 1:00:30.440 poker tournament, and that's when things get violent. So in 1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:34.000 the car is when things got violent. Something with the text. 1:00:34.120 --> 1:00:37.120 Something happened in that car where he just started to 1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:38.240 beat the shit out of her. 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:40.040 So he couldn't. 1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:43.360 Obviously bring a bloodied, bruised woman that he just beat 1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:47.440 up through the lobby of the hotel, so he carried 1:00:47.520 --> 1:00:52.360 her to their hotel patio door, but the door didn't 1:00:52.360 --> 1:00:54.880 open from the outside, so he left her. 1:00:54.760 --> 1:00:58.240 There, and on the footage in the hotel we. 1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:01.360 See him like run like a raised maniac into his 1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:03.920 room and so then he brings her in through the 1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:09.320 patio door. And at five three am this night, they 1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:13.480 see him on the footage of the hotel leave the 1:01:13.520 --> 1:01:18.320 hotel room and take the phone, take the landline and 1:01:18.360 --> 1:01:21.560 put it on a For some reason, this hotel had 1:01:21.560 --> 1:01:23.360 a dresser in the middle of the hallway. 1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:25.000 I've never seen this in my life. 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:26.960 I've stayed at so many hotels, but it's like a 1:01:27.040 --> 1:01:30.960 giant wooden dresser is just in the hotel hallway. So 1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:33.120 he takes the phone out and puts it on top 1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:37.040 of this dresser, which alludes to the fact that someone 1:01:37.120 --> 1:01:39.320 is in that room that he doesn't want calling nine 1:01:39.360 --> 1:01:42.040 to one one. Why else would you take a landline 1:01:42.040 --> 1:01:44.720 in So the fact that they saw him go into 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:47.440 the room alone and yet then take the phone out 1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:50.960 and hide it in the hallway is pretty telling that 1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:54.760 someone's in there. So he grabbed some ice and he 1:01:55.240 --> 1:01:59.440 went back into the hotel room, and at five oh 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:01.320 six am he goes back into the room with the 1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:03.400 bucket of ice, and he's in there for an hour. 1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:05.000 It's just really bad. 1:02:05.160 --> 1:02:09.000 He strangled her, and that's a connection to the SVU 1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:13.640 as well. So she was strangled and then I don't 1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:17.240 understand how he had all of these tools with him, 1:02:17.840 --> 1:02:20.479 but he ripped out all of her teeth and cut 1:02:20.520 --> 1:02:24.200 off all of her fingers, and so that's what made 1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:27.880 it really hard to identify Jasmine when her body was found. 1:02:27.960 --> 1:02:30.520 But yeah, he took all her teeth and fingers off, 1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:33.280 which is vile and fucked up, Like, how do you 1:02:33.320 --> 1:02:35.800 do this to quote unquote someone you love or loved 1:02:35.880 --> 1:02:38.160 or claimed to love, Like even to a stranger, this 1:02:38.240 --> 1:02:40.880 is hard to imagine, but someone that you've spent all 1:02:40.920 --> 1:02:43.720 this time with to then rip out their teeth and 1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:48.080 it's just pretty like this guy is discussing should I 1:02:48.120 --> 1:02:49.600 say rip out fingers one more time? 1:02:49.680 --> 1:02:51.200 Okay, no, no, no more times. 1:02:52.360 --> 1:02:55.040 So when he comes out of the room, he's holding 1:02:55.080 --> 1:02:57.680 all the contents that would have been in the suitcase. 1:02:57.720 --> 1:03:00.200 So they have him on camera like holding all of 1:03:00.240 --> 1:03:03.640 these things that didn't fit into the suitcase. And then 1:03:03.720 --> 1:03:06.200 he rolled the suitcase out the back patio to the 1:03:06.240 --> 1:03:08.840 car around nine thirty am and he leaves the hotel 1:03:09.200 --> 1:03:11.520 with no luggage and no Jasmine. And this is all 1:03:11.560 --> 1:03:14.320 on camera and I didn't mention, but in the beginning, 1:03:14.520 --> 1:03:16.840 there is footage of them checking into the hotel and 1:03:16.880 --> 1:03:22.480 it's the same luggage that was found. So then there's 1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:26.320 on secure I mean, the security cameras are really amazing 1:03:26.800 --> 1:03:30.800 tools in this case. So then they have camera footage 1:03:30.800 --> 1:03:34.200 of him arriving back at his apartment in La on foot. 1:03:34.520 --> 1:03:38.760 So he got rid of her white Mercedes somewhere and 1:03:38.800 --> 1:03:42.760 then came back to his apartment on foot. Now this 1:03:42.880 --> 1:03:46.560 is where he thinks he's really smart. He starts texting 1:03:46.560 --> 1:03:49.720 all of her friends, going, hey, I haven't seen Jasmine. 1:03:49.760 --> 1:03:52.000 Have you seen her? She stopped talking to me. I 1:03:52.000 --> 1:03:55.320 think she left me again. I'm so sad. Have you 1:03:55.320 --> 1:03:58.960 guys heard from her? So he starts texting all of 1:03:59.160 --> 1:04:03.240 his friends for some alibi stuff to find her, and 1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:06.680 then he also then that morning calls and files a 1:04:06.720 --> 1:04:09.080 missing persons report for Jasmine. 1:04:09.480 --> 1:04:10.440 So this is what's wild. 1:04:10.520 --> 1:04:16.880 So the detectives find the suitcase and because of no teeth, 1:04:17.000 --> 1:04:20.600 no fingerprints, they don't know how to id her. But 1:04:21.400 --> 1:04:24.400 she has breast implants and this is from a different 1:04:24.400 --> 1:04:27.160 episode of Sview. I wish they put it in this one, 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:29.400 but how could they have known that we needed it? 1:04:29.880 --> 1:04:34.120 But they identify her through the serial number of breast implans. 1:04:34.160 --> 1:04:37.120 They are unique and everyone has their own, so they 1:04:37.120 --> 1:04:42.280 are able to identify her and they contact the La 1:04:42.440 --> 1:04:46.000 Police department. There's tons of police departments to try to 1:04:46.040 --> 1:04:50.440 find Ryan, and they're like, actually, because what the detective said, 1:04:50.520 --> 1:04:52.800 is when a woman gets murdered, you look to who's 1:04:52.840 --> 1:04:54.160 closest to her immediately. 1:04:54.240 --> 1:04:56.640 You look to boyfriend husband right away. 1:04:57.160 --> 1:05:00.120 And so they're looking for Ryan, and the police in 1:05:00.240 --> 1:05:03.480 Las like funny you should say that because he filed 1:05:03.520 --> 1:05:06.439 up missing persons report and we needed more information from him, 1:05:06.600 --> 1:05:08.560 and we've been trying to contact him all day and 1:05:08.640 --> 1:05:13.720 he won't return our calls. So a man hunt ensues, 1:05:13.960 --> 1:05:18.960 and basically one week later, he is found in British 1:05:18.960 --> 1:05:21.440 Columbia dead in a motel. 1:05:21.200 --> 1:05:23.640 Room by suicide. He hung himself. 1:05:24.360 --> 1:05:28.080 Someone that works at the motel found him hanging, and 1:05:28.160 --> 1:05:30.360 he did kill himself. And then a few days after 1:05:30.400 --> 1:05:33.479 the discovery of Jasmine's body, her white Mercedes was found 1:05:33.480 --> 1:05:36.480 in a parking lot a mile away from Ryan's home. 1:05:37.000 --> 1:05:39.880 And there was so much evidence in the vehicle, lots of. 1:05:40.360 --> 1:05:42.520 A great hiding job, like you have to bring it 1:05:42.560 --> 1:05:44.800 to a field and set it on fire or something like. 1:05:44.840 --> 1:05:46.440 If it's going to have all that evidence in it, 1:05:47.000 --> 1:05:49.000 why would you just leave it filled with evidence a 1:05:49.040 --> 1:05:50.040 mile from where you live. 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:53.360 I'm not a psychologist, clearly, and I'm diagnosing him with 1:05:53.360 --> 1:05:57.120 all these things, but he's a fucking narcissist and when 1:05:57.120 --> 1:06:00.520 you like when he probably with the texts and everything, 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:02.280 thought he was going to get away with at all, 1:06:02.840 --> 1:06:06.320 and he was trying to get into Canada. And his 1:06:06.320 --> 1:06:08.680 family is actually rich and they have private jets and 1:06:08.720 --> 1:06:11.160 they have like a home in Honduras and stuff, and 1:06:11.240 --> 1:06:14.880 so they needed to find him because he was He 1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:17.680 could have definitely gotten away, but I think the manhunt 1:06:17.720 --> 1:06:20.400 got so intense that he got scared, he knew there 1:06:20.440 --> 1:06:23.360 was no way out, and he killed himself. 1:06:23.640 --> 1:06:26.560 I read something where the father was like, she was 1:06:26.600 --> 1:06:31.040 his only friend in La and she would withhold, she 1:06:31.080 --> 1:06:34.000 would sometimes disappear and hang out with other people, and it's. 1:06:33.840 --> 1:06:36.440 Like, okay, so he was totally right to murder her. 1:06:36.480 --> 1:06:38.880 Great great great Yeah, he was like I told him 1:06:38.920 --> 1:06:39.960 to dump chasmine. 1:06:40.280 --> 1:06:43.880 But I do want to just touch on this, like 1:06:44.000 --> 1:06:48.600 ethics and reality television in this case actually changed a 1:06:48.600 --> 1:06:52.480 lot of casting because what's fucked up is he had 1:06:52.800 --> 1:06:56.560 a domestic assault charge from two thousand and seven on 1:06:56.680 --> 1:07:01.240 an ex girlfriend in Canada, and he likes was charged 1:07:01.640 --> 1:07:05.280 and convicted. So what the fuck is going on that 1:07:05.360 --> 1:07:09.240 you're bringing a domestic abuser onto a reality show set 1:07:09.280 --> 1:07:15.960 and really stressful, like being on reality TV is stressful. Yeah, 1:07:16.200 --> 1:07:19.960 So with all of this everyone got in trouble. So 1:07:20.000 --> 1:07:25.160 when the case broke, the Collective Intelligence Agency was the 1:07:25.200 --> 1:07:27.920 agency that was in charge of doing all the background checks, 1:07:28.360 --> 1:07:31.480 and so Viacom was like, it's not us, it's the 1:07:31.520 --> 1:07:34.600 production company. And the production company is like, it's not us, 1:07:34.680 --> 1:07:38.120 it's this intelligence place, and the intelligence place is like, 1:07:38.480 --> 1:07:42.600 we only have jurisdiction in US. We actually outsourced to 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:46.520 a Canadian company and the Canadian people refused to answer 1:07:46.560 --> 1:07:49.640 any phone calls at all or emails, and then they 1:07:49.680 --> 1:07:52.240 found out that it was an error from a Canadian 1:07:52.360 --> 1:07:56.200 court clerk and it was all their fault. But the 1:07:56.280 --> 1:07:59.080 Canada agency ended up having to pay like eight hundred 1:07:59.080 --> 1:08:03.480 and ten thousand dollars to the US agency. But Mark Cronin, 1:08:03.720 --> 1:08:07.040 who created the I Love Money and all these shows, 1:08:07.680 --> 1:08:11.400 actually created Below Deck, a show that we do love 1:08:11.920 --> 1:08:16.760 but hes yeah, but he says this case changed the 1:08:16.800 --> 1:08:19.519 way they do everything, and not just beforehand, but after 1:08:19.560 --> 1:08:22.559 the show. They now keep tabs on all contestants. And 1:08:22.600 --> 1:08:24.920 he said there was a person on Below Deck who 1:08:24.920 --> 1:08:27.559 seemed to have some problems and they keep in touch 1:08:27.600 --> 1:08:29.840 with her and make sure that she's getting psychiatric help 1:08:29.960 --> 1:08:34.240 because of this case. Wow, to make sure this doesn't 1:08:34.240 --> 1:08:36.800 happen again, because this could have been avoided if you know, 1:08:36.880 --> 1:08:38.679 all these people did their jobs and he was never 1:08:38.760 --> 1:08:41.880 on television and he was never kicked off, this volatile 1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:45.080 person and married Jasmine and it really really sucks, and 1:08:45.120 --> 1:08:47.920 it's really sad, and she just seemed like a really. 1:08:49.240 --> 1:08:50.240 Sweet, fun person. 1:08:50.600 --> 1:08:52.879 This seems like it could have been like its own SVU. 1:08:52.960 --> 1:08:55.960 I mean I think that like this is listed on 1:08:56.040 --> 1:08:58.800 a bunch of our resources, like as what is like 1:08:58.880 --> 1:09:02.200 the inspiration of sugar, even though really it's kind of 1:09:02.240 --> 1:09:04.280 just like a few details here and there are barred 1:09:04.280 --> 1:09:07.160 from it, and the proximity in time is obviously so close, 1:09:07.200 --> 1:09:10.400 I think with the suitcase. But this could have been 1:09:10.439 --> 1:09:12.559 like its own full thing. 1:09:12.800 --> 1:09:16.280 Yeah, it's really sad, and I think this just teaches 1:09:16.400 --> 1:09:19.280 us that no one should live in Las Vegas, if 1:09:19.360 --> 1:09:22.960 I'm being honest. Do not find love in Vegas, everybody? 1:09:23.520 --> 1:09:26.439 And what is so crazy about this? Kara Is and 1:09:26.560 --> 1:09:29.000 Hannah you know this better than anyone. The Just for 1:09:29.080 --> 1:09:32.360 Laughs Festival in Montreal is this big comedy festival, and 1:09:32.400 --> 1:09:34.840 there were people that had duys that weren't able to 1:09:34.880 --> 1:09:37.439 go and to Canada to perform. There was someone with 1:09:37.520 --> 1:09:39.679 like an old weed charge and so that he couldn't 1:09:39.680 --> 1:09:42.240 fly and had to dry and was like, it's so 1:09:42.439 --> 1:09:45.040 intense that you can't even perform in a comedy festival 1:09:45.120 --> 1:09:47.360 in Canada if you have any sort of crimes in 1:09:47.400 --> 1:09:49.720 the US, and it like fucked up people's chances of 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:52.439 performing there. And yet this guy who beat the shit 1:09:52.520 --> 1:09:54.880 out of his girlfriend was able to just come into 1:09:54.920 --> 1:09:57.400 the States and get on television. 1:09:57.880 --> 1:10:00.280 It's pretty insane. I don't understand and. 1:10:01.720 --> 1:10:03.840 How that happens even Yeah, I mean there's always like 1:10:03.880 --> 1:10:07.000 the first case that causes them to tighten everything up 1:10:07.080 --> 1:10:09.360 and figure it out. And this sounds like it was 1:10:09.720 --> 1:10:12.720 probably I mean not that reality TV started in two 1:10:12.720 --> 1:10:15.320 thousand and six when this was all going down, but 1:10:15.840 --> 1:10:19.479 it was still early ish days of reality TV. 1:10:20.760 --> 1:10:22.599 Woo, what a story. 1:10:22.920 --> 1:10:25.519 Okay, guys, we will be right back with our very 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:31.240 special guests. 1:10:34.240 --> 1:10:36.599 All right, everybody, special guest time. 1:10:37.040 --> 1:10:40.479 I'm so excited to have this next guest on our show. 1:10:40.880 --> 1:10:43.280 If we are still counting, how our show is going 1:10:43.320 --> 1:10:46.559 to egot. This is one of our Emmy winners. He 1:10:46.640 --> 1:10:50.639 plays Grant McLaren in Netflix's Travelers. There are three seasons 1:10:50.640 --> 1:10:53.080 on Netflix, perfect for you to binge right now. He 1:10:53.120 --> 1:10:57.960 plays doctor Daniel Pierce in Perception on TNT, and you 1:10:58.040 --> 1:11:01.120 might know him as Will Truman from one of my 1:11:01.160 --> 1:11:04.879 favorite shows of all time, Will and Grace. Guys, please 1:11:05.560 --> 1:11:10.560 join us on our chat with Vance Shephard himself Eric McCormick. 1:11:11.360 --> 1:11:14.160 We can't believe that you agreed to do this. This 1:11:14.280 --> 1:11:16.160 is amazing. We're so happy. 1:11:16.400 --> 1:11:18.240 I'm delighted. I think it's a really funny idea. 1:11:18.280 --> 1:11:23.920 And plus I'm free. 1:11:24.000 --> 1:11:27.040 We're so blessed that everybody is free right now. We're 1:11:27.040 --> 1:11:29.960 getting a lot of fun people because no one is working. 1:11:30.000 --> 1:11:31.920 I mean, no one is busy, no one's busy, and 1:11:32.040 --> 1:11:33.320 everyone has done the show. 1:11:33.520 --> 1:11:34.360 Yeah, I mean. 1:11:34.360 --> 1:11:37.639 Literally, yes, we have to start with abaying, if that's okay. 1:11:37.680 --> 1:11:40.320 I don't know if this is an even appropriate first question. 1:11:40.439 --> 1:11:44.400 But we got to talk about the scissor scene, you know, 1:11:44.720 --> 1:11:47.559 and then we'll get into everything else. But I'm just 1:11:47.680 --> 1:11:50.640 dying to know about the filming of that and just 1:11:50.880 --> 1:11:53.519 how all this. Yeah, I just want to know all 1:11:53.520 --> 1:11:53.960 about it. 1:11:54.200 --> 1:11:56.200 I mean, you just got to slowly die in Elliott 1:11:56.240 --> 1:11:58.559 Stabler's arms, which I think a lot of our listeners 1:11:58.560 --> 1:11:59.760 would just love to have happen. 1:11:59.800 --> 1:12:03.240 And so I was waiting for a big glove scene 1:12:03.240 --> 1:12:06.240 with Elliott. It was I mean, first of all, I 1:12:06.880 --> 1:12:09.000 assume everyone is listening has probably seen it. But it 1:12:09.160 --> 1:12:11.840 is a pretty it is a pretty damn good ending. Yes, 1:12:12.360 --> 1:12:14.960 it's pretty surprising. And I thought that girl was great 1:12:15.080 --> 1:12:18.040 until I was great, and and it was. I can't 1:12:18.400 --> 1:12:21.040 remember the special effects of it all, but it worked 1:12:21.040 --> 1:12:23.200 pretty well. But the thing they didn't tell me is that, 1:12:23.720 --> 1:12:26.080 first of all, we shot that scene last, at least 1:12:26.120 --> 1:12:30.240 last in my week and late, and once I was 1:12:30.360 --> 1:12:34.320 in the ever widening pool of blood, I had to 1:12:34.400 --> 1:12:38.840 stay there for two hours in order to get a 1:12:38.880 --> 1:12:41.320 couple of other shots. So I'm lying in a pool 1:12:41.439 --> 1:12:45.720 of my own cold blood and I can't move, And 1:12:45.760 --> 1:12:46.679 they even took a break. 1:12:46.680 --> 1:12:48.479 They had to take a break because something would happened 1:12:48.479 --> 1:12:48.720 to the. 1:12:48.640 --> 1:12:52.080 Camera and they have the SUPERSTRAI do walk away and 1:12:52.120 --> 1:12:53.400 I'm like, I'm I'm. 1:12:53.200 --> 1:12:54.320 In blood here. 1:12:55.920 --> 1:13:00.800 Did you love being in the jumpsuit? Terable costume? I 1:13:00.840 --> 1:13:02.479 have to assume very comfortable. 1:13:02.640 --> 1:13:04.120 You don't have to, You don't to worry about what 1:13:04.200 --> 1:13:07.680 you eat for lunch. But orange is not my no, 1:13:07.800 --> 1:13:09.160 my colorgue, it's. 1:13:10.479 --> 1:13:11.080 It's not my. 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:13.240 Best not the new black, as they say, now, not 1:13:13.360 --> 1:13:15.599 for me. So had you like leading up to doing 1:13:15.960 --> 1:13:18.439 this episode? Had you been because this is like a 1:13:18.520 --> 1:13:20.960 this is a real classic episode for a lot of 1:13:20.960 --> 1:13:24.200 our listeners, because I think because of the name of 1:13:24.200 --> 1:13:26.680 the company, Tasty Sugar, people are obsessed with like the 1:13:26.720 --> 1:13:28.800 how funny the website is and the name of it. 1:13:28.960 --> 1:13:32.200 So yeah, it's like people love this episode. Had you 1:13:32.240 --> 1:13:34.280 been like a fan of SPU leading up, Like, I'm 1:13:34.320 --> 1:13:37.240 assuming you kind of might must have known Mariushka Hargeta 1:13:37.320 --> 1:13:39.200 because you were on the same network for years. 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:40.959 We're on the same network. 1:13:41.040 --> 1:13:44.360 Her and Messing we're best friends, are best friends, so 1:13:44.520 --> 1:13:46.880 I had met her a few times, but I hadn't 1:13:46.880 --> 1:13:49.719 I hadn't watched the show a lot when I had 1:13:50.640 --> 1:13:53.360 this Simy, I was thinking about yesterday that the nature 1:13:53.400 --> 1:13:57.080 of the show really everyone's sort of working together agrees 1:13:57.720 --> 1:13:59.840 that rape is bad, and there's it's very rare that 1:14:00.120 --> 1:14:03.320 a disagreement amongst them about how you know. But this 1:14:03.400 --> 1:14:06.120 was a really interesting one because this wasn't about right, 1:14:06.800 --> 1:14:09.880 this was about choices. That someone made the choice to 1:14:10.800 --> 1:14:13.240 as a young woman to be a sugar baby, the 1:14:13.320 --> 1:14:15.200 choice is an older guy to be a sugar daddy. 1:14:15.600 --> 1:14:19.479 And I think the argument that the cops and Christine 1:14:19.479 --> 1:14:22.479 Lotty have in the Cops Station is really interesting because 1:14:22.520 --> 1:14:26.400 it's for them they're completely separated on the issue that 1:14:26.960 --> 1:14:29.120 in a lot of episodes they'd all be on the. 1:14:29.080 --> 1:14:31.760 Same page on No, that's so true, and we talked 1:14:31.760 --> 1:14:34.840 about that when we sort of recap the episode that yeah, 1:14:34.920 --> 1:14:37.559 Christine Latiez sort of like maybe in more old fashioned 1:14:37.560 --> 1:14:39.639 opinion about sex work right. 1:14:39.800 --> 1:14:43.080 Well, Also, this episode is kind of a party episode 1:14:43.080 --> 1:14:46.160 for us view because there isn't like child abuse or rape. 1:14:46.240 --> 1:14:47.880 It is kind of one even though there is a 1:14:48.000 --> 1:14:51.080 group some murder. It is like a fun episode for 1:14:51.160 --> 1:14:53.440 us VU. It's like a silly one. 1:14:53.880 --> 1:14:55.639 And the whole the whole thing of the two guys 1:14:55.640 --> 1:14:58.040 at the beginning doing the and. 1:14:58.439 --> 1:15:02.280 They're hunting for the the geo cashing cashing. 1:15:02.360 --> 1:15:04.640 Yeah, it was just was fun because of course you 1:15:04.680 --> 1:15:06.479 guys wants to talk about it all the time that 1:15:06.600 --> 1:15:08.719 whatever the opening scene is and how it has nothing 1:15:08.760 --> 1:15:11.679 to do with anything, but they kept that one going 1:15:11.760 --> 1:15:14.479 deep into that interrogation scene with those two guys. 1:15:14.600 --> 1:15:17.480 Yes, yeah, and then they find a full other suspect 1:15:17.600 --> 1:15:20.759 and who has a perfect video of the crime being committed. 1:15:20.800 --> 1:15:23.160 You know, it's a it's a great show. Do you 1:15:23.439 --> 1:15:26.320 watch you whenever you're in stuff? Do you watch it? 1:15:26.400 --> 1:15:27.840 Or are you one of those people who don't like 1:15:27.880 --> 1:15:29.280 to watch yourself and things? 1:15:29.640 --> 1:15:32.800 It depends on the thing. I like to watch it 1:15:33.120 --> 1:15:36.360 less and less these days as one ages. 1:15:36.479 --> 1:15:40.439 But I love my wife and I will will watch 1:15:40.680 --> 1:15:43.519 Will and Grace in bed just because it's like watching 1:15:44.040 --> 1:15:45.080 home movies or something. 1:15:45.680 --> 1:15:46.559 But something like this. 1:15:46.880 --> 1:15:49.120 I hadn't watched it in ten years. I watched it 1:15:49.360 --> 1:15:50.800 the other day because of this, and. 1:15:51.520 --> 1:15:53.519 I thought it was fun. I mean, I didn't mind. 1:15:53.560 --> 1:15:55.679 I didn't mind it. I didn't mind it at all. 1:15:56.680 --> 1:15:56.920 I did. 1:15:57.000 --> 1:15:59.160 And yeah, I think it depends on the character. It 1:15:59.200 --> 1:16:00.439 depends on the script. 1:16:00.680 --> 1:16:04.120 Okay, I have a child, You have a child. You 1:16:04.120 --> 1:16:05.760 don't have to answer this if this feels like a 1:16:05.760 --> 1:16:09.080 weird question. But in the context of the show, do 1:16:09.120 --> 1:16:11.240 you turn your kid in if your kid is guilty 1:16:11.280 --> 1:16:13.479 of murder or do you try to take the blame 1:16:13.560 --> 1:16:14.639 like what your character did? 1:16:14.880 --> 1:16:17.120 Oh my kid, I'd read on him, so. 1:16:20.080 --> 1:16:23.280 For sure I might actually I've read after this, make 1:16:23.360 --> 1:16:27.760 something up and call it, but no, actually, I had 1:16:27.800 --> 1:16:31.280 actually forgotten scissors and all. I'd forgotten about that aspect 1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:34.800 of it that I clearly from moment once stuff my 1:16:34.880 --> 1:16:37.960 own girlfriend into a suitcase to. 1:16:38.000 --> 1:16:38.920 Protect my daughter. 1:16:39.080 --> 1:16:41.439 Yeah, and also i'd also forgotten how much those two 1:16:41.439 --> 1:16:45.360 actresses look alike, which is really which is a turning 1:16:45.400 --> 1:16:48.639 point in the episode with the with the translation photograph. 1:16:48.680 --> 1:16:52.160 But it's also like, oh. 1:16:51.439 --> 1:16:53.800 It's a tough it's a tough move on that guy's part. 1:16:53.880 --> 1:16:55.639 For sure, that is tough. 1:16:56.920 --> 1:16:59.599 What I also wanted to tell because and I'm sure 1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:02.559 versions of this, But the thing about a show like 1:17:02.600 --> 1:17:05.240 that is, unlike Sable and Grace, it doesn't matter how 1:17:05.280 --> 1:17:07.760 what guest stars we have, they're always going to write 1:17:07.800 --> 1:17:09.559 some pretty good stuff for Will and Grace and Jack 1:17:09.600 --> 1:17:10.000 and Karen. 1:17:10.040 --> 1:17:14.960 But a cop show for ten twenty years, sometimes it's the. 1:17:14.880 --> 1:17:17.120 Guest stars that have the best stuff and they just 1:17:17.160 --> 1:17:18.080 have to solve the crimes. 1:17:18.200 --> 1:17:21.160 And it's I'm sure it was frustrating, but I had 1:17:21.160 --> 1:17:23.799 this great speech where I finally in the orange jumpsuit, 1:17:23.840 --> 1:17:26.760 I confess and meanwhile, my daughter's confessing. 1:17:26.360 --> 1:17:27.120 At the same time. 1:17:27.360 --> 1:17:30.240 And I remember doing it with Chris and he's sitting 1:17:30.280 --> 1:17:32.920 there looking all stabler and serious. 1:17:32.560 --> 1:17:35.759 And I did a take in the directors like that's great, 1:17:35.840 --> 1:17:37.840 that's great. We do one more. And I did one 1:17:37.880 --> 1:17:40.519 more and I cried and said, ah, that's so great. 1:17:40.760 --> 1:17:43.400 And you know, Chris has been moved at all. And 1:17:43.640 --> 1:17:46.280 I just looked at it. I said, you've heard a 1:17:46.280 --> 1:17:49.320 lot of these, haven't you. You see two hundred and 1:17:49.360 --> 1:17:52.800 eighty five, And. 1:17:52.840 --> 1:17:55.920 I thought, that's the heart freaking part about any cop show, 1:17:55.960 --> 1:18:01.080 any crime solving thing, is the confession speech is never yours. Yeah, 1:18:01.360 --> 1:18:04.839 always somebody else's. And also that the scene that Sailor 1:18:04.880 --> 1:18:08.400 has in the where he takes a girl out of Sugarcar. 1:18:08.439 --> 1:18:09.920 Oh yeah, he goes undercover. 1:18:10.760 --> 1:18:12.280 Undercover is a sugar daddy. 1:18:12.439 --> 1:18:13.880 I mean, I don't know if this was like I mean, 1:18:13.920 --> 1:18:15.759 this is clearly it seems like how it was written, 1:18:15.800 --> 1:18:17.960 but you played it really well, just the sort of 1:18:18.000 --> 1:18:21.639 like Google CEO guy that's like, we're fun here, we'll 1:18:21.640 --> 1:18:22.840 do your dry cleaning. 1:18:22.520 --> 1:18:23.639 And buy your new boobs. 1:18:23.720 --> 1:18:27.280 Like I mean, like just the way that you're like, Okay, 1:18:27.360 --> 1:18:30.160 if I make this shot, everybody like making it about 1:18:30.200 --> 1:18:32.760 you and trying to be like fun guy boss at 1:18:32.800 --> 1:18:33.360 the same time. 1:18:33.720 --> 1:18:36.679 I make this shot, everybody gets a new ass. Here 1:18:36.680 --> 1:18:37.040 we go. 1:18:37.760 --> 1:18:42.639 Did anyone inspire you for that asshole boss school guy role? 1:18:43.040 --> 1:18:46.240 Do you think of anybody specific when you were channeling? 1:18:46.439 --> 1:18:49.000 Interesting question. I didn't. 1:18:49.479 --> 1:18:52.080 I didn't have anybody I think really though it was 1:18:52.080 --> 1:18:55.639 was that two thousand and nine Yeah, shot, So Will 1:18:55.720 --> 1:18:57.519 Grace was like three years previous to that. 1:18:57.600 --> 1:19:00.000 I think at that point, I was just I was. 1:19:00.080 --> 1:19:03.960 Looking for anything that would be very different than Will 1:19:04.080 --> 1:19:07.599 and so that was just an opportunity to make him 1:19:07.600 --> 1:19:10.200 his slick and assholy. 1:19:09.720 --> 1:19:13.040 And Yeah, we were talking about that because we were saying, like, 1:19:13.320 --> 1:19:15.599 even in this part, you kind of can't help but 1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:17.639 be a little bit funny, Like even though you are 1:19:17.680 --> 1:19:20.360 doing something very different from Will, like you are funny 1:19:20.360 --> 1:19:22.519 in it, Like you have funny parts. 1:19:22.600 --> 1:19:24.880 And the wardrobe helped with that a lot of Yeah, 1:19:24.920 --> 1:19:26.160 with those lo v's. 1:19:28.120 --> 1:19:30.200 And I and I the one thing in my life 1:19:30.240 --> 1:19:32.280 I would never do was it was where a necklace? 1:19:32.320 --> 1:19:33.880 But I said, this guy, this guy's got to have 1:19:34.000 --> 1:19:36.520 a necklace of some kind, you know, maybe. 1:19:36.280 --> 1:19:37.240 Like a shark's too. 1:19:37.560 --> 1:19:42.360 Yeah, your idea yeah, good info. 1:19:42.560 --> 1:19:43.160 Good info. 1:19:44.360 --> 1:19:47.040 Got to go a necklace. Another fun thing we should 1:19:47.080 --> 1:19:49.280 mention from this episode. 1:19:49.400 --> 1:19:53.360 Yes is my lawyer? Yes, oh, yes, my. 1:19:53.360 --> 1:19:59.719 Lawyer is Robert Klein, who becomes my mother's new husband, Grace. 1:20:00.560 --> 1:20:04.440 I'm just connecting that now. Yes, he's like your stepfather. 1:20:05.320 --> 1:20:08.960 He's my stepfather and he married Blythe Danner and today 1:20:09.720 --> 1:20:11.360 is Blythe Danner's birthday. 1:20:11.760 --> 1:20:13.960 Happy birthday to my television mom. 1:20:14.800 --> 1:20:16.080 Was that total coincidence? 1:20:16.160 --> 1:20:20.080 Total coincidence? In fact? He then went on, So we 1:20:20.120 --> 1:20:24.200 did that episode. Then Deborah did her crime show, which was. 1:20:24.360 --> 1:20:26.360 Called Mysteries of Laura Mystery. 1:20:26.360 --> 1:20:27.479 I can say pictures of Lily. 1:20:27.560 --> 1:20:31.120 Yes, filmed it in my neighborhood when I lived in 1:20:31.120 --> 1:20:32.320 New York, so I saw it all the time. 1:20:32.479 --> 1:20:34.960 They did, right, so because I did an episode of that, yeah, 1:20:35.280 --> 1:20:38.719 as her old boyfriend episode. But Robert Clime was playing 1:20:38.760 --> 1:20:42.360 her dad on that serious It then comes in and 1:20:42.400 --> 1:20:46.120 it is her dad again, even though Alan Arkin had 1:20:46.120 --> 1:20:48.080 originally played that part in the first run, but we 1:20:48.120 --> 1:20:52.639 couldn't get Alan back Anyways, the many chases of Robert Klink. 1:20:52.800 --> 1:20:57.160 Yeah, and he's an iconic actor as well comedy figure. 1:20:57.520 --> 1:20:58.440 Love him. 1:20:58.720 --> 1:21:00.840 Well, you went to High School, Scarborough. 1:21:01.240 --> 1:21:04.880 Yeah, yes, so are you familiar with the Hamalkas. It 1:21:04.960 --> 1:21:07.639 was a case that we covered and one of their 1:21:07.720 --> 1:21:11.400 crimes took place in Scarborough. So I was going to like, 1:21:11.560 --> 1:21:13.800 I think you were long gone from there, but if 1:21:13.800 --> 1:21:16.840 you remember any of the media or any like any 1:21:16.880 --> 1:21:18.679 people in your life talking about. 1:21:18.479 --> 1:21:21.240 It, it was it was actually very close to where 1:21:21.240 --> 1:21:24.840 I grew up, and I wasn't that long gone because 1:21:24.840 --> 1:21:29.639 I didn't really leave Toronto until eighty nine to ninety. 1:21:29.880 --> 1:21:32.080 That's like exactly kind of what it was happening, I guess. 1:21:32.240 --> 1:21:35.160 Yeah, so because I went to college in Toronto at 1:21:35.439 --> 1:21:38.000 Ryerson University and then I was always working in the theater. 1:21:38.080 --> 1:21:41.559 But coming back to Toronto, I definitely remember it was 1:21:42.120 --> 1:21:44.439 horrific and stunning. 1:21:44.640 --> 1:21:49.760 Yeah it was. But another fun of a more fun 1:21:49.800 --> 1:21:51.120 thing about Scarborough. 1:21:50.720 --> 1:21:55.280 Less murdering, less murdery is shitty than that is the 1:21:55.360 --> 1:21:57.840 number of people that you may or may not be 1:21:57.880 --> 1:21:59.600 aware that have come out of Scarborough. 1:22:00.240 --> 1:22:01.960 I mean, I went to high school with Mike Myers. 1:22:02.160 --> 1:22:02.759 Oh wow. 1:22:02.920 --> 1:22:04.880 I went to high school with David Furnish, who is 1:22:04.920 --> 1:22:09.040 now married to Elton John. David and I did musicals 1:22:09.040 --> 1:22:14.840 together in high school. Jim Carrey, bar naked ladies, some 1:22:14.880 --> 1:22:15.920 of the kids in the hall. 1:22:16.200 --> 1:22:18.320 So many celebrities from Canada. I didn't realize they were 1:22:18.320 --> 1:22:20.280 also concentrated to this area, but. 1:22:20.720 --> 1:22:22.240 It is unbelievable they really are. 1:22:22.360 --> 1:22:24.920 Scarborough has pretended, you know, it's just a sa I 1:22:24.960 --> 1:22:27.759 don't know which you compare it to Santa Monica or something. 1:22:27.760 --> 1:22:30.200 It's unbelievable the number of people. 1:22:30.520 --> 1:22:31.280 Is it like what? 1:22:31.479 --> 1:22:33.840 I don't know Canadian geography very well. Forgive me, I 1:22:34.400 --> 1:22:36.439 haven't been too many times. But what is it the 1:22:36.479 --> 1:22:38.320 closest to Toronto. 1:22:38.920 --> 1:22:40.320 It's a suburb of Toronto. 1:22:40.439 --> 1:22:43.599 Oh okay, Yeah, we're proud of voice Scarberian roots. 1:22:44.960 --> 1:22:48.439 Being a musical person, is there a musical part you 1:22:48.439 --> 1:22:50.599 would love to play that you haven't. 1:22:50.920 --> 1:22:52.519 There's a few that I haven't. 1:22:52.680 --> 1:22:55.760 I sort of have my main one I sort of 1:22:56.360 --> 1:22:59.240 have done on a v H one special years ago. 1:22:59.320 --> 1:23:04.200 But Frankenfurter from The Rocky hor would be my absolute favorite. 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:07.120 And I'm getting a little long in the tooth for that. 1:23:07.600 --> 1:23:10.920 But I always wanted to play Shay in a Vita, 1:23:11.040 --> 1:23:13.759 which is the first Broadway show I ever saw. Again, 1:23:13.800 --> 1:23:17.200 at this point, you could either go with like a 1:23:17.360 --> 1:23:20.840 twenty five year old Latino guy or me. So I 1:23:20.840 --> 1:23:25.280 think probably, I think probably the deck is stats for 1:23:25.439 --> 1:23:27.400 that one. But I have got over the years, I've 1:23:27.400 --> 1:23:31.280 got to play some stuff. I did the Fantastics in 1:23:31.760 --> 1:23:35.559 high school. I've done three productions since then in life, 1:23:36.280 --> 1:23:39.679 one of them directed by Jason Alexander from Seinfeld, and 1:23:40.479 --> 1:23:43.280 my son has just auditioned for his high school production 1:23:43.360 --> 1:23:46.519 of The Fantastics, the same role that I did forty 1:23:46.720 --> 1:23:47.160 years ago. 1:23:47.320 --> 1:23:51.240 So well, and then this is one of my favorite 1:23:51.439 --> 1:23:53.639 questions I like to ask, but it's a little silk. 1:23:54.200 --> 1:23:57.840 What is your favorite craft service snack, whatever, any of 1:23:57.840 --> 1:23:58.720 that ready for you. 1:23:59.600 --> 1:24:01.240 I hope we can get back to a world where 1:24:01.240 --> 1:24:02.479 we have craft service today. 1:24:02.680 --> 1:24:05.479 Yeah, working on the set now, it's just it's you 1:24:05.520 --> 1:24:05.960 can't do it. 1:24:06.560 --> 1:24:08.960 I worked on a set recently where you know, it 1:24:09.000 --> 1:24:11.559 was very masked and protected, but you had to ask 1:24:11.680 --> 1:24:13.200 someone for everything you wanted. 1:24:13.240 --> 1:24:15.360 There wasn't just like a table where you could graze. 1:24:15.560 --> 1:24:18.040 So it really cuts back on how gluttonous you can 1:24:18.080 --> 1:24:20.519 be at the craft service table because you're like, may 1:24:20.560 --> 1:24:24.160 I please have a twizzler? And uh, you have to 1:24:24.200 --> 1:24:25.439 like ask for everything you want. 1:24:25.600 --> 1:24:27.160 I think my favorite craft service. 1:24:27.280 --> 1:24:29.240 It was just I did a show for three years 1:24:29.240 --> 1:24:32.360 with Rachel ye Cook called Perception, which was on TNT, 1:24:33.040 --> 1:24:36.800 and I was also solving crimes, but. 1:24:36.800 --> 1:24:37.600 I was a professor. 1:24:38.040 --> 1:24:42.120 But we every day they would have these unbelievable apple fritters, 1:24:42.880 --> 1:24:46.559 and you can't eat an entire apple fritter every day, uh, 1:24:46.600 --> 1:24:48.960 and still look the same by episode six. 1:24:49.160 --> 1:24:51.280 So every day, Rachel, we. 1:24:51.240 --> 1:24:52.599 Go to the table and kind of look at each other, 1:24:52.880 --> 1:24:55.000 well we could, I mean, if we each have a 1:24:55.040 --> 1:24:59.040 piece of it, we just negotiate a single apple fritter 1:24:59.120 --> 1:24:59.840 over the course of the. 1:25:00.080 --> 1:25:02.280 Day, and it was heaven. 1:25:02.400 --> 1:25:03.280 Oh my gosh. 1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:07.120 My other favorite craft service story because on a sitcom, 1:25:07.400 --> 1:25:10.519 craft service and Pater we're kind of the same because 1:25:10.560 --> 1:25:12.519 you're not there long enoughticularly if Jim burrows his story. 1:25:12.520 --> 1:25:14.360 I think you're just not there long enough in the 1:25:14.400 --> 1:25:17.320 course of a day to have meals and a snack table. 1:25:17.400 --> 1:25:19.360 So when we the first run of Will and Grace, 1:25:19.960 --> 1:25:22.200 the woman in charge of all things was named Sandy, 1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:26.280 and Sandy's from the South, and she always had such 1:25:26.280 --> 1:25:29.040 elaborate things, and every day for lunch it was like 1:25:29.760 --> 1:25:31.120 heavy like barbecue. 1:25:31.400 --> 1:25:34.280 After that day, and one. 1:25:34.200 --> 1:25:36.960 Day I said, you know, Sandy, it's a little you know, 1:25:37.160 --> 1:25:40.400 like this is a show where you can see our 1:25:40.439 --> 1:25:43.320 bodies all the time, and I can't eat ribs all 1:25:43.439 --> 1:25:43.800 the time. 1:25:43.880 --> 1:25:46.360 And she said, oh what was she like, a salad 1:25:46.439 --> 1:25:48.840 you want? I said, salad would be great. So the 1:25:48.960 --> 1:25:52.120 next day there was this salad with this warm dressing 1:25:52.200 --> 1:25:52.679 and I tried. 1:25:52.720 --> 1:25:55.080 It was fantastic. I said, now that's more like, what 1:25:55.240 --> 1:25:57.840 is that dressing? And she said always, it's so easy. 1:25:57.960 --> 1:26:00.160 It's just it's just it's basically just baking it. 1:26:03.160 --> 1:26:06.040 No, that's that doesn't help. I might as well have 1:26:06.120 --> 1:26:06.479 a fritter. 1:26:07.800 --> 1:26:08.599 I love Sandy. 1:26:09.040 --> 1:26:10.160 Yeah, you Sandy. 1:26:14.479 --> 1:26:18.280 Oh my gosh, I just I'm like really still, I'm 1:26:18.400 --> 1:26:20.400 just so excited we got to talk to him. He's 1:26:20.439 --> 1:26:22.960 like one of my true I just love Will and 1:26:23.000 --> 1:26:25.760 Grace so much. It's really like a warm blanket for me. 1:26:26.040 --> 1:26:28.880 And he's amazing that he watched the episode to prep 1:26:28.960 --> 1:26:31.080 a little bit. He has an amazing memory and he's 1:26:31.120 --> 1:26:34.120 just so charming. I was like fully like taken by him. 1:26:34.200 --> 1:26:38.920 I'm so fucking giddy. So what did we learn this episode, Liza? 1:26:39.080 --> 1:26:41.960 I would say more learnings. I would love to bring 1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:43.080 up Oh a Quick Estate. 1:26:43.439 --> 1:26:43.679 Yeah. 1:26:43.920 --> 1:26:48.679 Unfortunately this year, the Food Network just removed season twenty 1:26:48.840 --> 1:26:52.799 of Worst Cooks in America because the winner and her husband, 1:26:53.040 --> 1:26:57.120 this is fucked up. Obviously, we're arrested for allegedly like 1:26:57.320 --> 1:26:58.680 homicide by child. 1:26:58.439 --> 1:27:02.800 Abuse of their three year old foss daughter, so three. Yeah, 1:27:03.400 --> 1:27:06.519 oh god, I thought the age was older. That's really terrible. 1:27:06.680 --> 1:27:12.040 They killed their child and it's the winner of the show. 1:27:12.160 --> 1:27:13.760 So yeah, it's like so it's like it was. 1:27:13.960 --> 1:27:16.200 It was just a connection to that case where the 1:27:16.920 --> 1:27:20.360 that you know, reality TV is fucked up, Well everyone is. 1:27:20.479 --> 1:27:22.360 I don't know, I don't know what the lesson is here, 1:27:22.520 --> 1:27:26.720 but that it still happens and bad people are on television. 1:27:27.320 --> 1:27:28.439 If you didn't know, I don't know. 1:27:28.800 --> 1:27:31.280 Yeah, so go ahead and take Worse Cooks in America 1:27:31.360 --> 1:27:34.320 off your DVR, because I don't think that that's We're 1:27:34.360 --> 1:27:35.360 not watching that anymore. 1:27:35.640 --> 1:27:37.439 And then someone was like, well that sucks for the 1:27:37.479 --> 1:27:40.040 people that were like, I'm gonna be on TV. And 1:27:40.160 --> 1:27:41.920 then it's like, oh, no, you're not. 1:27:42.240 --> 1:27:45.080 Yeah, we thought we were taking you guys through one 1:27:45.160 --> 1:27:48.400 episode that didn't have anything to do with child death 1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:51.400 or rape, and just so you know, we squeezed it 1:27:51.439 --> 1:27:54.080 in at the end. So uh, But what we learned 1:27:54.120 --> 1:27:58.479 from this episode is youth is overrated. You don't need 1:27:58.560 --> 1:28:00.960 to actually a young dude. You don't need to like 1:28:01.080 --> 1:28:03.599 leave your wife and start dating someone your daughter's age 1:28:04.560 --> 1:28:06.720 to feel youthful. I think there's a lot of other 1:28:06.800 --> 1:28:10.080 things you can do, get botox, pick up, kite surfing. 1:28:10.200 --> 1:28:11.920 I don't know what to tell you, but like, let's 1:28:12.040 --> 1:28:16.000 you don't have to your kid is gonna murder your 1:28:16.040 --> 1:28:16.760 new girlfriend. 1:28:17.280 --> 1:28:20.040 I also would like to say I learned if if 1:28:20.080 --> 1:28:22.080 there's a plan on how to get rid of the body, 1:28:22.200 --> 1:28:24.759 follow through on the plan. Don't just throw the body 1:28:24.800 --> 1:28:28.439 on the tracks like she went, go to Florida, commit 1:28:29.400 --> 1:28:31.320 you know, go all the way. It seems weird to 1:28:31.840 --> 1:28:33.920 try to get away with a crime. Only eighty percent 1:28:34.160 --> 1:28:36.280 when you deviate from the plan, you get caught. I 1:28:36.320 --> 1:28:38.799 think we've learned that, yes, sure, yeah. 1:28:38.720 --> 1:28:41.800 And if you're into geocashing, you need to take a 1:28:41.840 --> 1:28:42.960 deep breath and just calm down. 1:28:43.720 --> 1:28:44.280 You're you. 1:28:44.920 --> 1:28:47.479 You don't need to be in old subway tunnels and 1:28:47.680 --> 1:28:49.760 not caring that you just found a woman's dead body 1:28:49.800 --> 1:28:50.839 and only care about. 1:28:50.600 --> 1:28:51.880 A yo yo that you need to find. 1:28:52.240 --> 1:28:54.639 I think I would like to say, if your boss 1:28:54.760 --> 1:28:58.880 is buying you tit and plans, maybe his characters in questions. 1:28:58.560 --> 1:29:01.599 Something's up, something's up up. You're going to be expected 1:29:01.640 --> 1:29:03.479 to do a lot if your boss gets you implants. 1:29:03.520 --> 1:29:06.280 But also we want to know if anyone please write 1:29:06.320 --> 1:29:09.200 to us if you have had a job that has 1:29:09.439 --> 1:29:11.479 let you have paid for your plastic surgery. 1:29:11.520 --> 1:29:12.320 I'd love to hear about it. 1:29:12.479 --> 1:29:14.479 Well, I would love this to happen to me, actually, 1:29:14.640 --> 1:29:16.680 but I'm going to try to listen to my own 1:29:16.680 --> 1:29:19.800 advice here. Don't get married within forty eight hours of 1:29:19.960 --> 1:29:23.160 meeting somebody. Oh yes, the real case, Oh god, yeah, 1:29:23.479 --> 1:29:24.280 forty eight hours. 1:29:24.400 --> 1:29:26.400 You gotta wait. You gotta wait a week, you know, 1:29:26.520 --> 1:29:27.680 you get to wait a long time. 1:29:27.760 --> 1:29:30.559 Wait, wait some time, and find inner peace in your 1:29:30.640 --> 1:29:35.200 life that you're not looking for so many external like 1:29:35.360 --> 1:29:38.320 validation things like you're not looking for money or a 1:29:38.439 --> 1:29:41.439 Mercedes or to be on television for your happiness, because 1:29:41.479 --> 1:29:44.519 it'll never fully fulfill you. So make sure you're working 1:29:44.720 --> 1:29:46.040 on yourself inside out. 1:29:46.280 --> 1:29:48.160 And if the cops are approaching you on your boat 1:29:48.200 --> 1:29:50.439 and you're smoking a joint, you should not try to 1:29:50.439 --> 1:29:52.400 shoot a flairgun at them, and try to escape on 1:29:52.439 --> 1:29:54.600 a dinghy like it's just a joint. You're going to 1:29:54.640 --> 1:29:57.519 be okay. I'm sure you'll you'll be fine, like weed 1:29:57.720 --> 1:30:00.280 charges are. I just don't think that that was that's 1:30:00.280 --> 1:30:03.400 a great move. And also I've learned I'm happy to 1:30:04.520 --> 1:30:06.519 go on a date with Stabler as my sugar daddy. 1:30:07.040 --> 1:30:10.200 Sorry, oh yeah, was that a a new thing you 1:30:10.320 --> 1:30:13.560 learned just now? Yes, just because you know what I 1:30:13.720 --> 1:30:14.200 liked about it. 1:30:14.360 --> 1:30:16.479 He didn't know about he didn't know the ins and outs, 1:30:16.640 --> 1:30:18.320 so he was like what does that mean? He was 1:30:18.360 --> 1:30:20.600 like very vulnerable as the sugar daddy, and I liked that. 1:30:20.720 --> 1:30:22.720 That was like a part of Stabler you don't usually get. 1:30:23.080 --> 1:30:25.560 Also, if the cops come to question you about a 1:30:25.600 --> 1:30:30.920 person using your internet service, don't then delete their profile, like, 1:30:32.640 --> 1:30:34.080 don't give them more evidence. 1:30:34.160 --> 1:30:36.120 Like that to me was crazy where it's like why 1:30:36.680 --> 1:30:38.439 you know that they know that you're a part of it, 1:30:38.720 --> 1:30:42.719 Like what are you doing? Come on, come on vance. 1:30:43.600 --> 1:30:48.160 If you own the url tastysugar dot com, you're smart. Congratulations. 1:30:48.600 --> 1:30:52.479 Also, if you are looking for a sugar baby, I'm available. 1:30:53.640 --> 1:30:54.160 I need a car. 1:30:54.920 --> 1:30:58.320 And that's all I learned from this, very very Tasty 1:30:58.400 --> 1:31:03.799 sugary episode. Okay, everybody, it's time for what would Sister 1:31:03.920 --> 1:31:07.320 Peg Do? This is our weekly segment where we direct 1:31:07.400 --> 1:31:12.800 you towards resources, articles, organizations that can shed more light 1:31:12.880 --> 1:31:15.439 on a topic that we've covered in today's episode. Obviously, 1:31:15.560 --> 1:31:19.320 today's episode involved sex work. We had a different organization 1:31:19.400 --> 1:31:23.080 in mind, but we decided to pivot based on the 1:31:23.200 --> 1:31:27.000 horrific tragedies that happened when Asian run massage parlors in 1:31:27.479 --> 1:31:31.599 Atlanta were targeted this week and eight people were killed, 1:31:32.600 --> 1:31:34.479 the majority of them being women and. 1:31:36.200 --> 1:31:37.360 The majority of them being Asian. 1:31:37.439 --> 1:31:39.240 Which this is something we touched on a couple of 1:31:39.280 --> 1:31:42.560 weeks ago with our counselor its Chinatown episode, and we 1:31:42.640 --> 1:31:45.959 were talking about how hate crimes against the Asian American 1:31:46.040 --> 1:31:51.960 community have skyrocketed. So this is a obviously horrific turn 1:31:52.040 --> 1:31:54.760 of events. But we'd like to direct you guys to 1:31:55.080 --> 1:31:58.840 an organization called Red Canary Song. Their website is Red 1:31:59.000 --> 1:32:04.120 Canary Song. Lisa and I have donated to them. They 1:32:04.160 --> 1:32:09.720 are a grassroots collective that works solely from grants and donations. 1:32:10.040 --> 1:32:14.400 They're going to be donating to the families of the victims. 1:32:14.640 --> 1:32:18.840 They work very hard on decriminalizing sex work, and they're 1:32:18.880 --> 1:32:21.240 just they're a great organization that we've heard a lot 1:32:21.240 --> 1:32:23.439 of great things about. So we decided to direct your 1:32:23.439 --> 1:32:25.760 guys attention towards them, and we've donated. So if you 1:32:26.240 --> 1:32:28.920 have the means, please donate. Please go to their website 1:32:29.000 --> 1:32:31.120 find out how you can get involved. But yeah, this 1:32:31.360 --> 1:32:34.320 was a really really horrific crime. In the way that 1:32:34.400 --> 1:32:37.519 the media is handling it is making me insane that 1:32:37.600 --> 1:32:40.120 they're not just like calling him a racist and a 1:32:40.160 --> 1:32:41.000 white supremacist. 1:32:41.200 --> 1:32:43.040 Like the points a lot of social media posts I've 1:32:43.080 --> 1:32:45.840 seen have made is like why are we listening to 1:32:46.040 --> 1:32:49.360 what this guy says. It's like he said it wasn't racist, 1:32:49.479 --> 1:32:51.920 so let's believe him, And it's like, right, what planet 1:32:51.960 --> 1:32:55.320 are we living on? Yeah, and what why are police 1:32:55.439 --> 1:32:58.960 excusing a mass murderer and giving reasons why he did it. 1:32:59.160 --> 1:33:01.320 It's just like, on top of the crime and the 1:33:01.400 --> 1:33:03.920 murder and these families that are going to be affected forever, 1:33:04.479 --> 1:33:07.240 then it's like another attack to see how it's being 1:33:07.280 --> 1:33:10.640 handled and ignored and how this person's being defended and 1:33:10.720 --> 1:33:13.000 a slap in the face to everyone that's been killed 1:33:13.080 --> 1:33:16.880 by police. It's just like brutalization over and over again 1:33:17.080 --> 1:33:20.480 outside of even the crime, and it's just really disappointing. 1:33:20.680 --> 1:33:23.679 And I feel like we've been kind of being warned 1:33:23.720 --> 1:33:26.880 about what's happening for this whole year, since the moment. 1:33:27.360 --> 1:33:30.000 As soon as our former president was saying racist stuff, 1:33:30.160 --> 1:33:33.360 people were like, this is dangerous, and we kind of 1:33:33.439 --> 1:33:36.479 ignored it as a culture, and we had lots of 1:33:36.560 --> 1:33:41.800 other things and causes and situations, but this was like 1:33:41.920 --> 1:33:45.240 an es, it's been happening, I don't. 1:33:45.080 --> 1:33:48.639 Know, yeah, and it has now fully escalated and people 1:33:48.680 --> 1:33:52.439 are getting assaulted on the streets and murdered, and we. 1:33:52.560 --> 1:33:55.840 Definitely have to people need to be talking about this 1:33:56.080 --> 1:33:57.920 and we need to call it what it is. 1:33:58.200 --> 1:34:00.600 I mean, this is not The cop who gave the 1:34:00.600 --> 1:34:02.880 press conference yesterday was like, this is just a guy 1:34:02.920 --> 1:34:05.920 who had a really bad day, Like fuck you, Like, 1:34:06.040 --> 1:34:07.640 do you know how many women have bad days and 1:34:07.680 --> 1:34:11.519 don't murder people? Like it's just not that's just not 1:34:11.680 --> 1:34:13.800 an okay way to frame it. And like I got 1:34:13.840 --> 1:34:15.519 into an argument with my husband because he was like, okay, 1:34:15.520 --> 1:34:17.000 but why are we focusing on the words of like 1:34:17.080 --> 1:34:19.560 a stupid cop, Like let's just get this guy and 1:34:19.680 --> 1:34:21.200 figure out what he did, like why he did it, 1:34:21.240 --> 1:34:24.120 and blah blah blah. I'm like, because it's the whole narrative, 1:34:24.240 --> 1:34:26.320 Like the whole narrative that this guy had a bad 1:34:26.439 --> 1:34:30.639 day completely erases the fact that it was a hate crime. 1:34:31.040 --> 1:34:33.160 You know. So I think it is important. The words 1:34:33.200 --> 1:34:35.400 that we used to talk about these things are important. 1:34:35.920 --> 1:34:40.320 Yes, And it's also the sympathy that we give white 1:34:40.439 --> 1:34:44.360 mass murderers that we don't give to I don't know 1:34:44.520 --> 1:34:47.639 a black man selling cigarettes outside of bodega that's choked 1:34:47.720 --> 1:34:50.400 to death, you know what I mean. And so it's 1:34:50.479 --> 1:34:54.680 like we're giving humanity to a fucking killer that we 1:34:54.800 --> 1:34:56.639 refuse to give to anybody else. 1:34:56.880 --> 1:34:58.639 I think that's why it's important. 1:34:59.120 --> 1:35:02.040 And unless you're a forensic psychologists, why do we need 1:35:02.080 --> 1:35:02.720 to understand this? 1:35:02.840 --> 1:35:03.440 Motherfucker? 1:35:04.080 --> 1:35:04.320 Yeah? 1:35:04.520 --> 1:35:06.880 What is I don't understand this in need of like, well, 1:35:06.920 --> 1:35:07.600 why did he do it? 1:35:07.600 --> 1:35:11.160 It doesn't matter the people he killed don't fucking care 1:35:12.040 --> 1:35:13.360 what he thought happened. 1:35:13.479 --> 1:35:16.679 I mean, it's just it's really upsetting. 1:35:16.720 --> 1:35:19.479 And I know, like what leads to it is I 1:35:19.640 --> 1:35:22.600 used to for sure do funny Asian jokes, like I 1:35:23.080 --> 1:35:26.240 was very into pushing the line of comedy and being 1:35:26.360 --> 1:35:29.000 edgy and like we've all kind of been there. And 1:35:29.080 --> 1:35:32.200 I remember someone said, like, instead of focusing on these 1:35:32.280 --> 1:35:34.760 bad jokes, you made like focus on why you felt 1:35:34.800 --> 1:35:38.639 so comfortable making fun of the Asian community and why 1:35:38.720 --> 1:35:42.400 it's so accepted, And that really changed everything for me. 1:35:42.680 --> 1:35:44.800 And it's like we all have to realize that the 1:35:44.880 --> 1:35:47.080 words we use and how we what we laugh at, 1:35:47.120 --> 1:35:49.360 and what we take seriously or not like truly affects 1:35:49.400 --> 1:35:54.000 people's lives and adds to the vibe that a lot 1:35:54.120 --> 1:35:57.160 like that excuses this I don't even know I shouldn't 1:35:57.200 --> 1:35:59.479 use the word vibe when we're talking about something so serious, 1:35:59.640 --> 1:36:03.360 but like saying kung flu matters, Like those things add 1:36:03.479 --> 1:36:06.040 and like fucking idiots hear that and then go hit 1:36:06.120 --> 1:36:08.840 people in the streets. It's like what we say and 1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:11.559 what we think is not important enough that we could 1:36:11.600 --> 1:36:14.680 just make fun of. Like we just have to kind 1:36:14.720 --> 1:36:17.720 of think about all of that, especially as comics who 1:36:17.760 --> 1:36:19.639 want to be funny and laugh at all these things. 1:36:19.760 --> 1:36:24.040 It's like, well, why where do these jokes come from? Right? 1:36:24.080 --> 1:36:25.920 Why would you feel comfortable making that joke about this 1:36:26.000 --> 1:36:27.240 community but not that community? 1:36:27.360 --> 1:36:28.120 Like what does that say? 1:36:28.200 --> 1:36:31.679 About Yeah, totally, it's definitely something good to examine. 1:36:31.960 --> 1:36:34.120 And on Twitter, Robin Trand posted one of her old 1:36:34.200 --> 1:36:36.920 jokes and it's like the movies about the Vietnam War 1:36:36.960 --> 1:36:38.479 a so fucked up where it will be like a 1:36:38.560 --> 1:36:41.160 shot of all these dead Vietnamese people and then a 1:36:41.240 --> 1:36:44.000 close up of a white soldier being like, oh no, 1:36:44.680 --> 1:36:47.240 it's like, what, like do we have to feel sorry 1:36:47.320 --> 1:36:49.160 for Tom Cruise now? And then she's like, can you 1:36:49.240 --> 1:36:50.840 imagine if that was reversed? And it was like a 1:36:50.920 --> 1:36:52.680 bunch of dead white kids, and then they turned to 1:36:52.760 --> 1:36:55.679 an Asian dude going whoops, I guess we made a mistake, 1:36:56.040 --> 1:36:58.920 like and it was just like a very funny joke. 1:36:58.960 --> 1:37:02.800 I thought that, Yeah, Robin Tran on Twitter if you 1:37:02.840 --> 1:37:04.040 want to check her out. 1:37:04.920 --> 1:37:06.519 And then this is a little bit of a pivot. 1:37:06.600 --> 1:37:08.360 But I know in the past we've asked you guys 1:37:08.439 --> 1:37:12.080 to write letters to the parole board for Cameron Hooker 1:37:12.120 --> 1:37:14.640 and Craig Pyre, and I checked in since March was 1:37:14.720 --> 1:37:18.000 when the hearings are happening, and I just want to 1:37:18.000 --> 1:37:21.240 say I found no information on Craigs. But Cameron Hooker's 1:37:21.280 --> 1:37:24.519 hearing is March thirtieth, and so you still have time 1:37:24.600 --> 1:37:28.000 after hearing this, if you can write a letter to 1:37:28.040 --> 1:37:29.880 the pro board and the governor to make sure that 1:37:29.960 --> 1:37:33.679 he has not released do it for Colleen stan because 1:37:34.200 --> 1:37:35.200 the month is not over you. 1:37:35.600 --> 1:37:37.920 Yeah, and if you can, just everybody try to do 1:37:38.040 --> 1:37:42.000 your best to look up some articles, figure out, talk 1:37:42.040 --> 1:37:45.120 to people, tweet, donate whatever you can do to just 1:37:45.240 --> 1:37:47.479 get the message out there that the Asian American and 1:37:47.560 --> 1:37:51.880 Pacific islander communities have been greatly affected in this past 1:37:52.000 --> 1:37:54.920 year and probably for years previous. But you know, it 1:37:55.040 --> 1:38:00.439 is an escalating trend right now that is upsetting and terrible. 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