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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, and how we doing well? That's

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Speaker 2: good us too, our number two here on the Drive

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Speaker 2: on a Wednesday. As things are a little different this week,

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Speaker 2: but I guess kind of similar in the sense of

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Speaker 2: our cadence and our rhythm, Matt, because we will not

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Speaker 2: have a show on Monday, so it's still typical in

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Speaker 2: that regard. But yes, we are getting ready for all things.

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Speaker 2: Another massive week across the NFL, another massive Steelers we

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Speaker 2: talked day. Things certainly are falling into place. They're still

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Speaker 2: a lot up in the air, but things are getting

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Speaker 2: coming into focus. We you know, a little bit more

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Speaker 2: week by week. And I was looking at this and

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Speaker 2: there's an article on NFL dot com right now, Matt

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Speaker 2: that I thought was a pretty good way to kind

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Speaker 2: of frame things. The top five playoff contenders in the

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Speaker 2: NFL right now most in need of a win this weekend. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: that makes sense how they're kind of doing that, And

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's surprising, but number one is the

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis Cults.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, I wouldn't have come up with that, because

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Speaker 3: I've already written them off. Yeah you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't even think of them as a playoff contender anymore,

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Speaker 3: which is really not fair because anyone can any even Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And it has been, as we've outlined many times, it's

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Speaker 2: been such a week to week league this.

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Speaker 3: Year, no question. But they play Seattle.

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Speaker 2: In Seattle, settle. That might actually be better than having

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Speaker 2: Seattle come to your house because as we've seen, all

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Speaker 2: Seattle does on the win on the road is win.

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Speaker 3: I know you don't know this answer, but I wonder

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Speaker 3: if Rivers plays, I mean, if Leonard can't Leonard's got

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Speaker 3: an injury.

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Speaker 2: If it would either be him or Brett Ripen right

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Speaker 2: is the other option?

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Speaker 3: I think If it's if, I think it would be.

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Speaker 2: Because I think you would at least you point this

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Speaker 2: out a lot rightfully. So with Aaron Rodgers, I mean

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Speaker 2: did he wasn't on the sideline for five years like

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Speaker 2: Rivers was, but there was a gap there too.

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Speaker 3: Rivers knows this offense.

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Speaker 2: Rivers knows this offense very well. Him and Shane Steiken

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Speaker 2: have talked weekly all throughout the season because Rivers has

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Speaker 2: been running this offense at the high school team that

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Speaker 2: he coaches, I think out in California, is that right? Whatever?

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Speaker 2: Whatever whatever team that the high school team that Philip

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Speaker 2: Rivers coach this year ran this same offense. Talk to

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Speaker 2: Shane Stike in every Week.

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Speaker 3: Best friends like Rivers.

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Speaker 2: I think they're very close and similar to Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 2: similar to as you've rightfully so pointed out so many

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Speaker 2: times this season, I think there's a real comfortability there

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Speaker 2: with Okay, this guy is not like he was when

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Speaker 2: he was thirty four now at forty four, but he's

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Speaker 2: going to minimize so much negative for us. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: have everybody lined up, he's gonna know what the defense

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Speaker 2: is doing. He's gonna check out of the negative. He's

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Speaker 2: going to help us avoid getting procedural penalties and that

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Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And if you're the Colts, that might

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Speaker 2: be good enough. Right now, it might.

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Speaker 3: And it's funny he kind of mentioned this. I mean,

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Speaker 3: more and more the quarterback positions go into freaky athletes,

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Speaker 3: you know, Lamar Allen, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: And I'm all for that. And we did the mock

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Speaker 3: draft segment and if and when the Steelers came one

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Speaker 3: of those guys I want to take someone that has.

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Speaker 2: Crazy is a pretty darn good athlete, Rag John Daniels

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Speaker 2: and all these things, right, Caleb Williams exactly.

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Speaker 3: Tons and tons of them. But this year also taught

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Speaker 3: us don't sleep on the old dudes. You know that

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Speaker 3: there's something to be said for Rogers, Flacco, maybe Rivers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's two years old and Rogers that just.

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Speaker 2: I know, that's the only just know, every trick of

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Speaker 2: the trade, one thing for a one year absence away

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Speaker 2: This is a five year absence and he's forty four.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even like Brissett. You know, the Cardinals were

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Speaker 3: he's just been around a long time and doesn't get fooled.

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Speaker 3: And maybe none of these guys can move that well anymore,

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Speaker 3: just the knowledge, the wisdom, I think is the word

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Speaker 3: to use for those older guys is really really valuable.

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Speaker 3: In today's NFL. There is these defenses throw so much

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Speaker 2: So much at you. Yeah, and as the game it's

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Speaker 2: been You've heard this forever. Football is a young man's game, sure,

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Speaker 2: but I think that continues to be more and more

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Speaker 2: really helps the high tide that raises the ships of

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Speaker 2: all those young guys. Yeah, and your organization and on

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Speaker 2: your offense.

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Speaker 3: Right, and the Steelers are a really good example of

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. It is, by the way, in Alaba,

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Speaker 2: where Philip Rivers currently resides and coaches his high school

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Speaker 3: But they absolutely need I mean back to the article,

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Speaker 3: they need to win more than anybody. I just don't

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Speaker 2: It one hundred percent. Philip Rivers, by the way, a

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Speaker 2: career record of forty four and sixteen in his five

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Speaker 2: years as the head coach there at Saint Michael Catholic

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Speaker 2: in Alabama. They have been to the semi finals of

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Speaker 2: the state championships the last two years, but lost to

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Speaker 2: Jackson High School both of those times. They went thirteen

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Speaker 2: Rivers team, So that offense that he's installing from Shann's

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Speaker 2: Lark and is working there. I know it sounds crazy,

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Speaker 2: but I think I would lean in that regard. There's

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Speaker 2: also something to be said.

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Speaker 3: For I would play him right away if he can.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, especially in the if the Colts were

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Speaker 2: in a better situation where Okay, our quarterback has been

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Speaker 2: a carousel and injuries and stuff like that, but we're

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Speaker 2: still winning games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right now.

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Speaker 2: I think there's always something to be said too. Got

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Speaker 2: the sency something different, the guy that walks into the

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Speaker 2: huddle and you all look at him and you go, okay,

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Speaker 2: we got a chance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, right right. I played with him in

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Speaker 3: Madden when I was ten. These guys are like that.

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Speaker 2: I've seen this guy win big games. I know he's

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Speaker 2: might reset his clock here for five years, but he's

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Speaker 2: there's something to be said for that. Motes could could

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Speaker 2: vouch for this really well. Motes used to reference how

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Speaker 2: many times they'd beat this when he the four years

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Speaker 2: bad situation. Yeah, and Ben would just be like, hey, guys, chill,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Max has mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Maxx could better because he was in the huddle.

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Speaker 2: Marx was on the other side of the football, but

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Speaker 2: just on the sideline in the locker room. We're fine,

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Speaker 2: everybody breathe, we got this. Go make a play.

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Speaker 3: The famous Rogers relax a la like okay, if he's

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Speaker 2: And I think for this kind of unraveling the uncertain

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Speaker 2: it might be what the Colts need.

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Speaker 3: Right again, I don't think that helps you block Leonard

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Speaker 3: Williams and you know, beat the Seahawks. But I heard

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Speaker 3: today like Bordolini, their second year center. He's not even

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Speaker 3: a rookie. He was like nine months old when Rivers

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Speaker 3: got drafted. That's hilarious, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's hilarious when he got drafted like he got drafted

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Speaker 2: right right, right, that's crazy. Number two on the list

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Speaker 2: is the Chiefs agreed.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they had to run the table. Who's more

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Speaker 2: Who's more desperate for a win? Because the Colts might

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Speaker 2: have to run the table too. I guess the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs, because the Colts could probably afford

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Speaker 3: Texas, they have some division stuff to fall back on.

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Speaker 2: At least they have some division stuff and some tie

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Speaker 2: have to win out. I mean, they they they have

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Speaker 3: And we really laid this out yesterday. But the AFC

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Speaker 3: seven teams, I don't say they're chiseled and stone because

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Speaker 3: Steelers could lose to Miami or whatever, but pretty it

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Speaker 3: sure looks like six and the AFC North champ I think.

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Speaker 2: I think so yeah, And hey, maybe maybe we come

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Speaker 2: in here on month Tuesday and we're singing a different tune.

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Speaker 2: That's how the league works, because that's how the league works.

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Speaker 3: In Houston lost by forty, you know, like.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs and the Colts have felt further off the

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Speaker 2: mark this week than they have any time here so

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Speaker 2: far in the month of December. Chargers on deck for

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. It's a tough one. They got them at home,

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Speaker 2: but that's a must must, must, must must win. Number

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Speaker 2: three on the list and this one is surprising, but

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: I would think there'll be more NFC. But okay, those

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Speaker 3: two need it though. I mean those guys are like

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Speaker 2: This team doesn't necessarily need it in the sense of

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Speaker 2: securing or get back into the playoff picture because they're going.

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Speaker 2: But the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see what you like. Let's get this

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Speaker 3: thing right. Let's right the ship. Let's put thirty up

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Speaker 2: You know, each of the last two seasons, the Eagles

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Speaker 2: felt like things are going south. Which way are you

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Speaker 2: gonna go? Last year the arrow pointed straight up and

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Speaker 2: they won the Super Bowl. The year before that, they

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Speaker 2: unraveled and were a disaster. Yeah, yeah, I'm leaning towards

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Speaker 2: the unraveled and they're a disaster. But I think they're

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Speaker 2: still going to go to the playoffs. You got the

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Speaker 2: Raiders come into town. It's a good get right opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Let's go beat the Raiders by fourteen or twenty and

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Speaker 2: and get them feel good and get open in the

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Speaker 2: right thing.

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Speaker 3: Let's have everyone with baseball caps on the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: you know, and get back to letting the world know

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Speaker 3: who we are and we just crushed a bad team.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good one to put on there.

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Speaker 3: So we I did a podcast this morning where we

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Speaker 3: did a really deep dive of boy, you know, speaking

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Speaker 3: of the Colts, who's gonna who could be their quarterback

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Speaker 3: on opening Day next year?

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Speaker 2: Cool?

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna be Damn Jones.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can promise you right down, not with

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Speaker 2: an achilles injury like that.

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Speaker 3: And I just found this out today too, Like not

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Speaker 3: which never means good for Week one, but because he

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Speaker 3: rehabbing the achilles until the bones heal. So he's gonna

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Speaker 3: But I'm not the only one that's thrown that out there.

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Speaker 3: And you and you, you know, get handled.

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Speaker 2: Get get handled, you get you get beat decisively. That is,

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Speaker 2: You, exactly right, exactly right, But I like that. I

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Speaker 2: with one of our favorite weekly exercises. I'll explain when

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Speaker 1: the black End Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here on a Wednesday, as we

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Speaker 2: are rolling along and heading towards the finish line, Kenny

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Speaker 2: Good luck, young man. Oh yeah, it's not gonna go well,

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Speaker 3: We're getting to that point of the season where, oh,

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Speaker 2: I say, this is like a guy who's carried water

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Speaker 3: I mean, oh, it's Liken go well.

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Speaker 2: I just want I just want Tom and all my

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Speaker 3: that's pretty They just activated him off ir you know.

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Speaker 2: I did not say he'd be back in the regular season,

439
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Speaker 2: but that's awesome. He's I love that guy, I really do.

440
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Speaker 2: I think he's perhaps the most underrated football player of

441
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Speaker 2: the past decade.

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Speaker 3: In the receiver of all time pecking order, he's higher

443
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Speaker 3: than you think.

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Speaker 2: He is, higher than anybody think. Yeah, and in that

445
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Speaker 2: whole like best receiver of this generation. If you want

446
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Speaker 2: to start with ab and Julio, that's fine with me,

447
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Speaker 2: but he better be the third one you mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's like in like Larry Land, not

449
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Speaker 3: like uh he's.

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Speaker 2: He tied Jerry right, he tied a Jerry Rice record.

451
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're tying a record that Jerry Rice

452
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Speaker 2: is doing. That's that's pretty stinking good. And until Tom

453
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Speaker 2: Brady and Baker Mayfield never had the best quarterback situation

454
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Speaker 2: that he was doing it. You know, he's not not

455
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Speaker 2: Marvin or Reggie playing with Peyton all that time. Matt,

456
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Speaker 2: simple thing here for you. Let's as we start to

457
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Speaker 2: talk about the Dolphins a little bit more, our favorite,

458
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Speaker 2: let's steal somebody from the steel.

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Speaker 3: Yet.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and reminder to everybody, contract money plays into this

461
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Speaker 2: all this matter. This is like a you're building a roster,

462
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Speaker 2: You're Omar Khan. You're not just borrowing this guy for

463
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Speaker 2: the next month of the season, like you're on the

464
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Speaker 2: books for him, his contract, his age, all those things

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Speaker 2: going forward. There's two names that really stand out to me, Mat.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I have not thought this one through, but I

467
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Speaker 3: I liked thinking through them on the air too.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so like I'd be very tempted to take devon

469
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Speaker 2: a chain in a way.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, he's really dynamic and really hard to play.

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Speaker 2: He's so good. I think he might be the most

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Speaker 2: underrated running back in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Right now, having a monster season.

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Speaker 2: I Jalen Waddle is certainly one of the people that

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Speaker 2: I would consider. Yeah, I know he's got a big

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Speaker 2: contract and he's not a spring chicken anymore, but he's

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Speaker 2: been really good lately. He's been very good lately, and

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Speaker 2: if you plugged him in that offense across the field

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Speaker 2: from DK Metcalf, that would be a problem. The two

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Speaker 2: that I'm really considering, though, I guess the three because

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Speaker 2: I would really consider Jaalen Wattle, Mega Fitzpatrick. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean the contract is big, but it's not.

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Speaker 3: Cord like, not even joking like. Been nice to have him, very.

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Speaker 2: Nice to have him an Ramsey and to Shawn Elliott

485
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Speaker 2: and Joey Porter Junior.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, you player.

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Speaker 2: I know you'd be adding another sizeable contract to that defense.

488
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Speaker 2: But he is a really good player. I think there

489
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Speaker 2: is such a high level of knowing what you're getting

490
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Speaker 2: with Minka Fitzpatrick, Like there's very little opportunity. You know,

491
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Speaker 2: you bring in a Jaalen Wattle and it doesn't work out,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't mesh with the team, with the coordinator, with

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Speaker 2: the quarterback, and it ends up going south. Like you

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Speaker 2: don't see that happening with Minka Fitzpatrick. He's going to

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Speaker 2: play at a high level thirty two organizations in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League. Another one that I would consider those

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Speaker 2: Zach Siler on the defensive line.

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Speaker 3: He's a really good player too that people don't know

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Speaker 3: about because I think he's like he is a sack

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Speaker 3: or a couple of plays on Monday Nightland. Who's a

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Speaker 3: Zach Siler guy?

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Speaker 2: You know, I think he's ascending. He doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: crippling contract, and you know, you plug him in next

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Speaker 2: to the Derek Harmon's and the Keanu Bentons and the

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Speaker 2: YA Blacks for the next handful of years, I think

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Speaker 2: you'd be in really good shape on that defensive front.

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Speaker 3: It's not a bad one. I can't go a chan

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Speaker 3: just because he's also small and he's a running back,

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Speaker 3: but I have great, great, great respect for his game.

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Speaker 2: I guess Syler did just turn thirty.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was younger and he's been around a

512
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Speaker 3: little while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he was like twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: I'd love him on this team right now, right now

515
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Speaker 3: would be super useful, especially with like Harmon out. Now

516
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Speaker 3: they're O line. There's nobody I would pluck, but they're

517
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Speaker 3: O line. Isn't that bad? And Paul the second year

518
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Speaker 3: left tackles. Looks like he was a total project. He's

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Speaker 3: turned into a decent player. They're like the quickest off

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Speaker 3: the ball o line I've ever seen by the way.

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Speaker 3: I mean they move well. Waddle was very very much

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Speaker 3: in this conversation because I think he's.

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Speaker 2: He might be my answer. I think he is talk and.

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Speaker 3: FI this out so a note on water Like when

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Speaker 3: Tyreek has been healthy over the last two years or so,

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Speaker 3: Waddle kind of gets screwed. He's asked to do a

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Speaker 3: lot of the really tough work, like clear out routes

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Speaker 3: for Tyreek and stuff that you know, beat this man

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Speaker 3: coverage and while there's you know Tyreek's and like jet

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Speaker 3: motion and things like that. So he's he's kind of

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Speaker 3: had to have been an uphill climb. But when but

532
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Speaker 3: when Tyreek went out, he's still doing those things. But

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Speaker 3: his production is spiked like crazy crazy. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 3: he's a really really good player and they don't throw

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Speaker 3: the ball very much. He is my answer, and he's

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Speaker 3: different than Metcalf, but he's also super dynamic and I

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Speaker 3: think he can be a pseudo one. I would throw another.

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Speaker 2: Name out there, Chop Robinson, Kenneth Grant, ooh, okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean I always look at like, who was the

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Speaker 3: first round pick this year?

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Speaker 2: Young defensive tackle?

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Speaker 3: I mean massive three hundred and forty pounds. He hasn't

543
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Speaker 3: been great this year.

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Speaker 2: He is not.

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Speaker 3: He started poorly, but he's gotten better, as have the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: You know. But I liked him a lot coming out

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Speaker 3: of Michigan. You know, he was right there with Harmon

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Speaker 3: for me, and you know, who would you take between

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Speaker 3: the two of them, those two and Nolan as you know,

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Speaker 3: first round defensive tackles. I thought for sure the Seers

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Speaker 3: were going to take one of those three, and we

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Speaker 3: were right. So I'd still consider him. But I wish

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Speaker 3: he was having a better rookie year, burst on the

554
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Speaker 3: scene more.

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Speaker 2: He did, I think he'd be.

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Speaker 3: I think, give me a pick.

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Speaker 2: You know, he have on his rookie contract for the

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Speaker 2: next three years. Jalen Wattles only twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: I don't Wat's still got a lot.

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Speaker 2: Like he just turned twenty seven over Thanksgiving really Thanksgiving week.

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Speaker 2: His birthday is November twenty fifth, so he just turned

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Speaker 2: twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: That's a pick. That's the pick, that's the pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was like twenty nine, closer to Minka's age.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he makes money, but that's the only downside.

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Speaker 2: Who Yeah, yeah, he's twenty seven. Pay him his money

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Speaker 2: for the next three years and he'd be great next

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Speaker 2: to the.

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Speaker 3: DK Metcalf and no problem solved.

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Speaker 2: And in that offense, I think that's the answer it is.

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to agree on that one. Minka, though,

573
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Speaker 2: definitely deserves a shout. It's a great call by you

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Speaker 2: bringing Kenneth Grant into the conversation. I think that's about it.

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Speaker 2: In terms of guys, who's.

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Speaker 3: Not the best team to pick from.

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Speaker 2: And again, like there's some guys that could, like Devon

578
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Speaker 2: eh Chan right now to help you for there would

579
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Speaker 2: be great for the rest of the year. Yeah, or Siler,

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Speaker 2: you know, Siler for the rest of the year would

581
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Speaker 2: be awesome. Even someone like Jordan Brooks.

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Speaker 3: I would say, Brooks is a really good player that

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Speaker 3: I figured we'd talk about more Thursday Friday some of

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Speaker 3: these guys, but he's been super productive. I just don't

585
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Speaker 3: know that he's a massive upgrade over Queen and Wilson,

586
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Speaker 3: you know, like he'd.

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Speaker 2: Probably be your number two linebacker.

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Speaker 3: I think he's probably better than both those guys. I'm

589
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Speaker 3: a Brooks fan, but I don't know that he's.

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Speaker 2: Like by leaps and bounds. Yeah, it's not Fred.

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Speaker 3: Warner like, okay, massively changes the outlook of the team

592
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Speaker 3: because one of those guys have to go to the bench.

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Speaker 2: Then, you know, exactly right, exactly right. So yeah, So

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Speaker 2: there's our kind of weekly exercise of perusing the other

595
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Speaker 2: teams roster and deciding who we would like to poach.

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Speaker 2: We are both going to agree this week and we're

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00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: gonna land on Jalen Wattle, and we're gonna have another

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Speaker 2: explosive piece for that.

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Speaker 3: Even if we change the rules and allowed a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't take two it right now, No, I don't

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Speaker 3: think so. No, I would definitely take Wattle ahead of

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Speaker 3: to it.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of clear cut yes, I would take

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Speaker 2: that court.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Most of the quarterbacks that we would take would either

607
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Speaker 2: be the Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes established future Hall of

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Speaker 2: Famers or the Cam Woard Caleb Williams Drake may like

609
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Speaker 2: next wave of young guys that you're gonna have on

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Speaker 2: their rookie contracts for the next few years.

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Speaker 3: None of which is a slight on Rogers. It's just

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Speaker 3: like if I could pluck May from the Patriots, you

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Speaker 3: do it a million out of a million, I'll give

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Speaker 3: you throw in two first round picks. I'll give you

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Speaker 3: anything one.

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Speaker 2: I would give you whatever you want for Drake May.

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Speaker 2: Right now, two first rou how about three? You want three?

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Speaker 2: Take a third? You're not driving half three. Let's get

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Speaker 2: to our final segment of the day. On the other side,

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Speaker 2: another news or notable around the NFL, and let's get

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Speaker 2: to some of your tweets. It's been a few days

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Speaker 2: since we've since we've checked the men and pulled some tweets.

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Speaker 2: We'll do all that and more as we get up

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Speaker 2: out of here. On the other side, what Hueler, Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final segment here of the Drive on a Wednesday, and

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Speaker 2: I want to get to some tweets. But before that, Matt, A,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I guess you could call it

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Speaker 2: a bigger picture NFL topic that I just wanted to

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Speaker 2: pick your brain on for a second. Do you know

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Speaker 2: who Marcus Freeman is? Sort of he's the head coach.

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Speaker 3: Of Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Well regarded, well regarded. Yeah, they lost Brian Kelly, almost

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Speaker 2: said Chip Kelly, different college coach. They lost Brian Kelly

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Speaker 2: to LSU a few years ago. Everyone thought it's a

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Speaker 2: massive loss for Notre Dame. They promote this Marcus Freeman

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Speaker 2: guy who was on staff, young and up and comer,

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Speaker 2: but like, come on, we're Notre Dame. Shouldn't we go

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Speaker 2: get a big fish? And all he does is in

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Speaker 2: year two, he's got him in the the National Championship

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Speaker 2: Game last year in college football.

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Speaker 3: Like they were the last cut for the playoffs this

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Speaker 3: year and.

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Speaker 2: The last cut in the playoffs this year.

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Speaker 3: And they played the National Player Game last year.

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Speaker 2: They played the National Title Game last year. They've had

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Speaker 2: a lot of NFL draft picks success. Jeremiah Love. I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna win the Heisman. I think it's

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Speaker 2: going to be Mendoza, but he certainly is a finalist

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Speaker 2: and has a strong case. Kelly left, and I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people thought the program was going to

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Speaker 2: take a step back. Instead it's taking a step forward

656
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: under Marcus free They are back to being a relevant

657
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: contender in the conversation year in and year out, whereas

658
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: it went the opposite way for Kelly at LSU. And

659
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: that's you know, exactly right as a kid, it's not

660
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: it's not the low Holtz era there, you know where

661
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: they're where. They're beating my Mountaineers and Major Harris for

662
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: a national championship.

663
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: Jerome and Tim Brown.

664
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: He's forty three to twelve as Notre Dame's head coach.

665
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: That's pretty pretty good. And again was in the college

666
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: football National Championship last year. Is still only thirty nine

667
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: years old, not even forty yet.

668
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: Do you think most of his losses are a pretty

669
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: decent percentage or in his first year?

670
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: So they lost two games this year, and I think

671
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: they lost one last.

672
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 3: Year, Okay, so yeah, so yeah, yeah, okay. I mean

673
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: maybe take over a bad program, I expect you to

674
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: be eleven in one.

675
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: Even if you take over a good program, it's still

676
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: that first year is always I.

677
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: Rocky, yeah, yeah, and no reason somebody else got five

678
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: exactly right, exactly right quarterback or you know.

679
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: With that, with the success that he's had, with the

680
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: style of program that he's run, there now he's getting

681
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: some NFL interest. I've heard, yeah, some potential, a couple potential.

682
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: I think he's been mentioned in a couple areas, but

683
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: the Giants being the one that keeps popping up. So

684
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: what I wanted to ask you with this is, again,

685
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: this is a bigger pick your kind of wider range conversation,

686
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: but just how you feel about plucking coaches from college

687
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: football to the National Football League, because I think there's

688
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: good faith arguments you can make on both sides. Yeah,

689
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: I think more often than not it doesn't work.

690
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 3: I say, there are examples of it, does Pee Mee Johnson, Pete.

691
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: Carroll, Jimmy Johnson. I mean, you know, even someone like

692
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: and this is I'm aging myself here a little bit,

693
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: but even you know, someone like Bill Walsh and Paul

694
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: Brown and those guys started in the collegiate ranks. Tom

695
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: Coughlin started in collegiate ranks before going on to win

696
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: two Super Bowls with the Giants. Pete Carroll's probably the

697
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: best example.

698
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: The world was much smaller for all those examples too.

699
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: I'm talking about like.

700
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: Like Jim Harbaugh has been a good example. A lot

701
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: of success at Stanford, a lot of success with the Niners,

702
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: a lot of success with Michigan.

703
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: But for the most part he's gone back and forth.

704
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: It's just a little different, which is a little different.

705
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: For the most part, it's more Nick Sabans, who win

706
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: a national championship at LSU, bomb out at Miami and

707
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: they're back in college. Matt Ruhle, who did unbelievable, took

708
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: Temple and Baylor to like top twenty any seasons, ten

709
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: wins places those programs hadn't been in the bombs out

710
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: with Carolina.

711
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: Urban Meyer might be the best urban Oh my good

712
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 3: man talking about it from the best of the war

713
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: disast right.

714
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of was Nick saban type stuff

715
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: too when he was with the Dolphins.

716
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: Dolphins were better than the urban Meyer teams.

717
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: But they were they were, So I just wanted to

718
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: pick your brain on that and what you kind of think.

719
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: I don't love it.

720
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love it either. I'm willing to give

721
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: him benefit of the doubt. Bill O'Brien's another example.

722
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't want to single out Freeman because

723
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about him and I don't know

724
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: his personality. It all sounds good, you know, I mean like,

725
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: so I'll give him the benefit the doubts, but man,

726
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: South Bend, Indiana compared to the Big Apple, just in

727
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: terms of city, environment, media, etcetera, etcetera. And I know

728
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: there's a lot of pressure at Notre Dame. Don't get

729
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: me wrong, it's Notre Dame. But man, I'm just thinking

730
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: about the all the stuff you have to do that's

731
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: not football related.

732
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: That's what you do, and you take a lot off

733
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: your plate in terms of like the babysitting element of

734
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: eighteen and nineteen and twenty year olds who sudden lately

735
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: their hometown and are making the money. But they have

736
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: people to do that.

737
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: There right right, the GA's are doing that kind of stuff. Yeah,

738
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: you know, I leaned towards You'd have to really convince me,

739
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, I would break all

740
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: ties against it.

741
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: I I I would love it. And this would never

742
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: happen because he's the head coach of the premiere program.

743
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 2: But I would love it if he was like a

744
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator in the NFL.

745
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: First, yes, or if he had like ties where.

746
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: Or if he had been in the NFL in the

747
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: past and then got the Notre Dame.

748
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he's never even been I don't know this.

749
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: Pe carefull, you know what I mean when he left

750
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: the Patriots and got the USC job.

751
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: Because this guy ever had an NFL job, I don't

752
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: think so. I mean that that's hard for me, man.

753
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: And again, I mean, was the linebackers coach five years

754
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 3: ago somewhere or something like that.

755
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: You know, he was not no Ohio State, then Kent State,

756
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: then Purdue, then Cincinnati than Notre Dame.

757
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't love it. It's a different world, man.

758
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: It is a completely different world. And as you mentioned too,

759
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: I think it would be one thing if he was

760
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: going to take over for the Indianapolis Colts or the

761
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings, order more patient Midwest DeLand base.

762
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: I mean, if he was coming here as opposed.

763
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Speaker 2: And I even think sometimes Matt, I laugh the whole

764
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: like that New York media thing is so rough. We

765
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: were just kind of talking about the Philadelphia media is

766
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: so rough, right, Yes, and no, those guys aren't. They're

767
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: not showing up to Nick Sirianni and Jalen hurts his

768
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: press conferences with torches and pitchforks.

769
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: There's a lot more people the New York media would

770
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 3: chew you up and spit you out.

771
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: I think some of that is antiquated, Like it's the

772
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 2: social media era. Now these guys have someone telling them

773
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: they suck in their comments every every three seconds. These

774
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: guys deal with heat and pressure and attention and a

775
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: magnifying glass like none other before. And I also think

776
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: our brother Dale and I used to He used to

777
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: get honked off when I would say things like this.

778
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: So does our good friend Mike Persuda. Don't tell any

779
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: of the reporters or journalists, I said this, okay.

780
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll keep it quiet.

781
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: But I think those guys' role is more diminished now

782
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 2: than it has ever been before. Oh yeah, in terms

783
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: of locker room access and talking to the players and

784
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: getting the story and talking to the coaches. There's seven

785
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: hundred thousand outlets like the media. Guys don't hold the.

786
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 3: Like they're not on the train with Babe Ruth.

787
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: Yes, And we have so many friends in that realm.

788
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: And I think it's still an important I still think

789
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: it's an important job. That's not what I'm trying to say,

790
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: but change there's not this massive connection between the media,

791
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: narrative and the fan base anymore. In fact, a lot

792
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: of times, I think it's the opposite. The media will

793
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: be telling you, hey, calm down, don't push push the

794
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 2: panic button, where the fan base is like fire everybody,

795
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: get them at it, you know. Like I think, I

796
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: think there's more disconnect now between the fans and the

797
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: reporter journalist media than there has been in the past too.

798
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: So yes, there's more pressure there, there's more attention, there's

799
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: more eyeballs, all that stuff. But I do always laugh

800
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: when people kind of act like the media they're so tough,

801
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: like they're like they're bringing shotguns to the press conferences

802
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: and putting bullet holes in you.

803
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 3: But I just but I bet those press conferences still

804
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: have triple the amount of people of a Packers press conference,

805
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: you know.

806
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: But they also still have half a dozen PR people

807
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: who will shut that thing down in five seconds. Yeah,

808
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: if you if you start getting too personal and you

809
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: get over the line.

810
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: But even from like a football perspective, the Jets and

811
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: Giants haven't won forever. It's not been a conducive area

812
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: for winning. That's why I threw the Steelers out, Like, yeah,

813
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 3: they're used to winning. That's you go to a good

814
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: environment's great job, they're patient, you know blah blah blah.

815
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: But back to your original question, zero NFL experience that

816
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: worries me. So here's a small example that we just

817
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: saw is McDonald goes from defensive coordinator in Baltimore to

818
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: head coach in Seattle.

819
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: And he was a Georgia right before that, right before

820
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: he was at Baltimore.

821
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: No, he was with Michigan with the harbor of that

822
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 3: is the heart learning program, that's right. So he becomes

823
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: a head coach in Seattle and signs Washington where Faltonu

824
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 3: and Pennix and on Doonzay and Rosengarden was their offensive coordinator.

825
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: We're going to keep him in the Midwest. Make him

826
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: the Seahawks offensive coordinator. His first year as head coach

827
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: total disaster, and a lot of it was because he

828
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 3: built plays for the college geometry of the field, didn't

829
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 3: understand the hashmark difference is in the picking up pressure.

830
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: That's what I've told you before. Yeah, I typically hate

831
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: it when people use this phrase, but you don't know ball.

832
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: You know how people like to say that, sure he

833
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 2: knows ball, he doesn't know ball. When I hear people

834
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: say hire Lane Kiffen for insert NFL team here, I'm like,

835
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: what are you talking about. Yeah, I'm like Lane Kiffin's

836
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: offense would not it's made to manipulate the hashmarks, which

837
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: are completely different. In the college it's completely different.

838
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: And it's like, oh, we'll just get.

839
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: These Lane Kiffen all, by the way, one of those

840
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: guys who left college and went to the NFL and

841
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: flamed out.

842
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like the dree Archers, We'll just get

843
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: him in space. You can't get him in space up here.

844
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: You can get him in space in the Big twelve

845
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: or even the sec you know, because you're faster than

846
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: the dude's chase. Exactly right. This is wide side of

847
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: the field. So Ross Tucker is a friend of mine

848
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: and we used to host a podcast in together and

849
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: he will flat I'll tell you said it on the

850
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: air million times so with me. So I've heard him

851
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: since he was an offensive lineman for the Washington team

852
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: at the time when Spurrier became the head coach. Legend

853
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: from the Swamp. He's Ross is a very smart Princeton

854
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: offensive lineman who now has gone to do great things

855
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: in business. He's like, we had like three protections. That's

856
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: what they had in Florida.

857
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: That's it.

858
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: Mid three, you need fifteen, you know, thirteen it's like

859
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 3: either do this, this or this, and every defensive coordinator

860
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: knew it and it overload my left tackle and we

861
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: didn't have an answer for it. You know, like it's

862
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: a different world.

863
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: It's a completely different world and everything's a different world now.

864
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: But I'm with you, I think. And even someone like

865
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald right, who went from Michigan defensive coordinator to

866
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: the Ravens defensive coordinator. He was in the NFL for

867
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: for seven years before that.

868
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: And it was with the other Harbor brother doing NFL

869
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: stuff at the college level.

870
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: Correct he was he was doing he was coaching defensive

871
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: backs and then linebackers with the Ravens before he went

872
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 2: to the college level, before coming back to Baltimore, before

873
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 2: getting that head coach. The thirty eight years old.

874
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 3: That's nuts. It's kind of like Tomlin at that age.

875
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: That's not that's like, yeah, that's like Tomlin stuff. That's

876
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 2: like McVeigh stuff.

877
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: My goodness that he was room perfectly by the Harbor brothers,

878
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: like go to Michigan call plays because we can't do

879
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: it here with Baltimore, and then you'll be our coordinator

880
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: as Michigan takes the some Ravens people. You know, like

881
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: there's some some benefits of being the Harbor.

882
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: Brothers, no doubt, one of those football last names, right,

883
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: like being a harborall be a Manning.

884
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, take my guy for a year and then

885
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: bring him back, you know, train him to be.

886
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: That is funny. Actually, Like here, take this guy for

887
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: a year.

888
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll love him. He's awesome.

889
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: He's awesome. Give him, give him a little bit more

890
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: on his play, you know.

891
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: I'll make him defense coordinator for the Ravens. You have him,

892
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: it's the defense coordinator for the Wolverines for a year,

893
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 3: and then we'll lose them and he'll be a head coach.

894
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: And now he's the coach of the second best team

895
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 3: in league.

896
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: That is funny, right, It's worked out very well for

897
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: him and them and then for all the parties involved.

898
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm with you. Marcus Freeman's a guy that

899
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: I'm willing to give a lot of benefit of the

900
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 2: doubt to because I do think he's a rising coaching star.

901
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: But that is, you know, from South Bend uh to

902
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: to the Big Apple as a heck of a leap.

903
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly just schematically, and the job description is so

904
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: much different.

905
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: Matt, I, this works out well because we only have

906
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes left here till we got to

907
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: go to break. Andrew tweets us it's funny. Andrew does

908
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 2: this every week and sometimes I go to it more

909
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: so during the offseason. He used to do this with

910
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: Motz and I, but he would tweet us three random

911
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: questions every week. I think I remember that. I think

912
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: we've done this once or twice throughout the few months

913
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: of the season. Now it's a good quick way to

914
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: you got ninety seconds to kill before you get out

915
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: of here. So Number one, name something you spend too

916
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: much time doing social media. I'm on my phone too much.

917
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm on my phone too much. But it's not all

918
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: social media, but it's always attached to my body, which

919
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: I look at.

920
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 2: Like on my phone too much.

921
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if I like go to the bathroom, I

922
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: brain with me, Like what I don't need it, Just

923
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: go take a leak.

924
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: You know one thing I've been trying to do and

925
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: I think you'll be proud of me. And my wife

926
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 2: is really noticed and she likes it. Is like typically

927
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: on Saturdays, I'm getting on a plane and I'm gone

928
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: for the weekend, or I'm going to Morgantown to watch

929
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: college football or something like that, and then work in

930
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: a Steelers home game Sunday. So like Friday nights, I've

931
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: tried to like when you and I get home from

932
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: the show Friday night, I'll like pull in the garage,

933
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: I'll check my phone one last time to make sure

934
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: there's nothing I need to respond to. Yeah, and then

935
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: like when I get home, I'll like throw it on

936
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: the kitchen counter or something for two hours and just

937
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: go be with my girls and be with my wife.

938
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: And I think we all spend even if you're good

939
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: about being on your phone, I think you probably spend

940
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: too much time on it. Let's see he number two.

941
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: Do you have a good famous person story.

942
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: I told the John stal Wars story that he told

943
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: me that that was pretty cool coming from Dublin, right.

944
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: I told you my Arnold Schwarzenegger and the bike shop

945
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: and asked the Colorado story. I think, yeah, where I

946
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: saw Arnold and I wanted to go bug him in

947
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 2: a bike shop and asked in Colorado, I was like nine,

948
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: and my dad was like, no, leave him alone. He's

949
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: just a regular guy. He's getting his bike fixed, like,

950
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: don't go bug him. And then he goes to leave

951
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: like two minutes later, and he goes, hey, buddy.

952
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: I five I ever tell the John Gruden story.

953
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever told the Junger. I

954
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: was from your time to pit now.

955
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: I was the Senior Bowl and we were at a

956
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 3: really really nice steakhouse. ESPN sent me there this before.

957
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 3: I was with you know, way back when, and Gruden

958
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: signed a new contract that day and I'm in a

959
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: urinal and he comes into the urinal next to me.

960
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: He had been having a really good time. He had

961
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: signed a huge monster deal. He's one of the top

962
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 3: coaches and sure, and I just gave him a congratulations coach.

963
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 3: And I mentioned to him while we're taking leaks next

964
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: to each other base I'm like, Walt Harris also gave

965
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: me my first job. That's pretty cool.

966
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: That's cool, Like, hey, we have this in common.

967
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: He ga'd for Walt at Tennessee. I think it was

968
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 3: I'm a million years ago, and he's like, awesome, dude.

969
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 3: Walt was got me know, like we ended up talking.

970
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: I was just going to say that and walk out,

971
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: but we're like washing our hands together, and we both

972
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 3: had a few and he was like, yeah, that's awesome,

973
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: but I had to pick up his son. I'm like,

974
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: I had to pick up his younger son. You know

975
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: that kind of thing.

976
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: That's really good. Yeah, yeah, that's really good. And I

977
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: could see him and.

978
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: He's like, congratulations on the contract, is all it was?

979
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, I could see him being good in that

980
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: type of moment too, like it was all wound up.

981
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean, how would you not be signed

982
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: a multimillion dollar contract a couple of hours before that,

983
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: you know, and it was Senior Bowl City. It wasn't

984
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 3: like I was bugging him Rando like he knew I

985
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: was somewhat affiliated.

986
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah right, He's not, just like in the grocery store

987
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: trying to get a couple of things to get out

988
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: of there, right right, right? Yeah, one here, this is

989
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: a good one. What is the last thing you found

990
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: yourself going down a rabbit hole researching?

991
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 3: Hmm?

992
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: I know mine?

993
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: Bringing on.

994
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: It's a recent serial killer show on Netflix, The Ed

995
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: Gainey Story.

996
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah that anything?

997
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, anytime anytime I watch one of those, whether

998
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: it's the Dahmer Story, whether anytime I watch one of

999
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: those serial killer murder things on Netflix or HBO or

1000
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: wherever it is, I always find myself like, Okay, let's

1001
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: go find out the real Stull compare the TV show

1002
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 2: to the and how twisted was this really guy? Really?

1003
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: And what did he end up in jail for? And

1004
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: how long and all that time.

1005
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 3: Along those lines. I know a lot about those things

1006
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: before they came out, Like it's kind of not a

1007
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 3: hobby of mine, but sure like the profiling shows and

1008
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: my wife and I are both into and she's even

1009
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: said things like, in a perfect if she could have

1010
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: my life and pick the perfect job, then maybe profiler

1011
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: or you know, like yeah, forensics person figure things out,

1012
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 3: should have been great at it. But so we've done

1013
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: a lot of serial killer stuff over the years and

1014
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: learn like I knew a ton about ed Gean before

1015
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: I watched them, you know.

1016
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 2: So that that's typically And then a lot of times

1017
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: on like bands and musicians, I'll find myself and what

1018
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: I could see, Like a couple a couple of months ago,

1019
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: the Billy Joel documentary came out on HBO, and like

1020
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: in the first hour of it, they talk about how

1021
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: he wanted to be in a metal band when he

1022
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: was younger, Like Ozzy Osbourne was his hero, and he

1023
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: was in like a metal band and had like black

1024
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 2: hair and the leather jacket. And so I'm like going

1025
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: down a wormhole, like can I find it? Is Billy

1026
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: Joel music of him and his in his metal band

1027
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: in his heavy metal era. So yeah, serial killer stuff

1028
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: and like bands and artists before my time.

1029
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 3: Maybe they're crazy out there stuff, you know, right.

1030
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: Oh buddy is there?

1031
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1032
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, But that was good stuff there from Andrew

1033
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: to get us up out of here today tomorrow on

1034
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: the show on Thursday, we will fully kind of begin

1035
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: turning the page to the Dolphins. We'll talk to Bob Labriola.

1036
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: We'll start to get into some of Matt's stats and

1037
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: some early scout of Miami. All of that and more

1038
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 2: on the program tomorrow. Big thanks to Chris Halick for

1039
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: joining us, Nathan for producing TV for being our video

1040
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: producer slash resident statistician for Matt Williamson. I'm Wes Uhler.

1041
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: Take care everybody, and we will talk to you tomorrow.

1042
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: As always, you know where to find us. It's on

1043
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

1044
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Speaker 2: Gold at Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network