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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I him Dale Lollie, he is

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Speaker 2: Dean Matt Williamson, and it is Draft.

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Speaker 3: Eve, Draft d a Eve, Happy Draft Day Eve to all.

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Speaker 3: Here we go get these are so there.

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Speaker 2: Are certain days that we mark the calendar by. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: for us, draft is obviously one huge. Then you go

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Speaker 2: opening day of OTAs that's a big one. That's a

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Speaker 2: big one. Mini camp starting that's that's another big one.

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Speaker 2: Opening a training camp, huge huge, first preseason game again,

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Speaker 2: you get that out of the way. To start of

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Speaker 2: the season, end of the season, playoffs obviously, and then

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Speaker 2: for us to combine is always.

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Speaker 3: A big go. Oh yeah. I'd even throw schedule released

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Speaker 3: schedule release days in the agency.

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Speaker 2: Way you mark the calendar year is just that that's

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Speaker 2: the way we do it.

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest. For a large percentage of my life,

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Speaker 3: I couldn't sleep the night before the draft. I mean

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Speaker 3: I had an easier time as a seven year old

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Speaker 3: sleeping on Christmas Eve than I did the night before

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Speaker 3: the draft. And my wife, now we just celebrated our

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Speaker 3: twenty sixth anniversary not long this month, and when we

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Speaker 3: first met, she knew nothing about sports, still doesn't, thank God,

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Speaker 3: so because I don't have to be tell me all

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Speaker 3: the things I do wrong on Draft World. I basically

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Speaker 3: told her, I'm like, there's this few days where you're

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Speaker 3: not going to hear from me on and if Heaven forbid,

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Speaker 3: something happens to the fam or whatever, I'm kind of

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Speaker 3: off the grid, you know, like this is don't expect

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Speaker 3: to hear from me. I'm not gonna go to sleep.

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Speaker 3: I don't act like myself, and here we go, it's

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Speaker 3: gearing up and I'm psyched.

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Speaker 2: Well, I basically goet like seven months out of the year,

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Speaker 2: where that's it's that way for me? Sure like he

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Speaker 2: just once football Jesus starts. My wife knows Okay, Actually

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Speaker 2: she always liked it. She always liked it better. She

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Speaker 2: always told me because I knew she knew exactly what

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Speaker 2: my schedule was going to be.

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Speaker 3: During football, such a thing as it becomes the same.

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Speaker 2: Thing for players. That's why, that's why they like to

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Speaker 2: keep the everything's regimented, and so you keep it that way.

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Speaker 3: Thursday night games over absolutely Saturday game, let alone COVID

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Speaker 3: when they're playing on Wednesdays and nonsense.

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Speaker 2: So, Matt, we're on the eve of this draft, and

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Speaker 2: we're here, and I still think a lot of people

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, a lot of Steeler fans are pounding the table.

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Speaker 2: It has to be a center in the first round.

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Speaker 2: They've got to take a center in the first round,

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Speaker 2: or this draft is just a disaster. And I just

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Speaker 2: I'm at the point now where I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: the case.

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Speaker 3: I don't either, and there's a lot of angles at it.

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Speaker 3: And I understand the legacy of centers in Pittsburgh and

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Speaker 3: I have great respect for it. And for much of

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Speaker 3: my lifetime they've had a Hall of Fame Center or

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Speaker 3: a near Hall of Fame center, and they've had great success.

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Speaker 3: And I do think one thing, there's a reason for

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Speaker 3: both those things. I mean that's and I respect that

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Speaker 3: position as value anyone, absolutely, And I do think the

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Speaker 3: league showed us that this group of free agents, you know,

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Speaker 3: are they made more money than you And I thought,

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Speaker 3: you know, like, people are understanding the value of centers,

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Speaker 3: and I do as much as anyone. That being said,

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Speaker 3: I also think you can manufacture centers, you know, turn

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Speaker 3: guards into centers.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Hardings was a guard, wasn't.

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Speaker 3: To Marney's Awesin too? I mean or both? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know we had both by his name when they

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Speaker 3: drafted him and Lanza, you know, right next to each

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Speaker 3: other that year. I mean, so Pouncy's brother was a

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Speaker 3: guard because on the inside. But and again I'm not

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Speaker 3: discouraging it. I just think that tackles are much much

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Speaker 3: more difficult to come by. And just speaking of Steeler's legacy,

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Speaker 3: no offense to Tounch or sear C or any of

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Speaker 3: the great you know tackles that have played here. It's

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Speaker 3: probably the weakest position in Steelers history. You know, there's

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Speaker 3: just not Hall of Famer. You know, there's not Hall

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Speaker 3: of famers everywhere. It's not Blunt and Woodson is the

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Speaker 3: best corners. And there's a reason for that too. It's

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Speaker 3: because this organization has been so good. Jonathan Ogden's gone

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Speaker 3: by the time they picked Biselli's gone. They don't get

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Speaker 3: the chances, the opportunity to take sure first round center tackles.

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Speaker 3: And this year you might get a crack at it.

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Speaker 3: So do it, you know, if you could do it

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Speaker 3: two years in a row that'll have great ramifications.

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Speaker 2: That's why to me, if you get to say pick

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Speaker 3: The Lathams all, yeah, the surefire, the top five guys.

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Speaker 2: I don't put Mems in that category. I would take

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Speaker 2: Mems at twenty if.

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Speaker 3: But that's a discussion the other ones aren't, you know, right.

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Speaker 2: If one of those top five guys happens to slide

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Speaker 3: I'm coming around on that just for those guys, you know,

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Speaker 3: because originally I thought, man, this is a true a

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Speaker 3: down draft. I mean, because I want more stuff on

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Speaker 3: day two. The Steelers have plenty of needs that they

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Speaker 3: could address on day two. And I still am in

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Speaker 3: that boat. And you know, we do these mocks and

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Speaker 3: trading down usually works out pretty well. But for those

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Speaker 3: dudes in a Broderick Jones like manner, if.

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Speaker 2: You end up with your coming out out of these

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Speaker 2: last two drafts with your starting tackles for the next

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Speaker 2: ten years, yeah, that's pretty impressive, you know, And it

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Speaker 2: all costs you was, say, a fourth round pick last

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Speaker 2: year and maybe a third round pick this year. To

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Speaker 2: move up and get one, right, I could get it.

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Speaker 2: Sign me up.

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Speaker 3: That's a lovely thing that could happen, and you look

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Speaker 3: like that was a lot different than the first fifty years. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, having bookend tackles is a great luxury. Now.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be tackle in round one. I

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Speaker 3: don't think it has to be center. But I think

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Speaker 3: they're the most logical suggestions. And I hope no one

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Speaker 3: wants to hear this, But there's a lot of third

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Speaker 3: and fourth round centers or guard you could turn into centers.

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Speaker 3: And I know that Green did not work out in

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Speaker 3: that capacity. It doesn't mean every guard turned center in

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Speaker 3: the history of the world will never work out again

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Speaker 3: that you can live with or be happy with. And

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Speaker 3: I know nobody wants to hear I don't want a

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Speaker 3: center I can live with. I want pouncy. I get it, folks.

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Speaker 3: But chances are even a first round center won't be pouncy.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a good player, but it probably won't be bouncy,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might not be DERMANI Dawson and might you

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Speaker 2: know again, they got Jeff Hardings as a free agent,

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Speaker 2: you know, after he had had played guard, you know,

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Speaker 3: Just because Green didn't doesn't mean everyone in the history

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Speaker 3: of the world won't be able to do it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Connor Williams, who was still out there, by the way,

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Speaker 2: and it remains unsigned, was an offensive tackle in college

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Speaker 2: who kicked into guard and then kicked into center.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And you see that stuff all the time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you go around, if you're an athlete,

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Speaker 3: you should be able to do it. You're smart. I mean,

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Speaker 3: earning the snap is not all that difficult. I mean

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Speaker 3: that people can do that. A lot of these guards

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Speaker 3: centers that are third roundish guys will start in this

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Speaker 3: frankly better than what the Some of.

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Speaker 2: The centers drafted in this taken in this draft w

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Speaker 2: end up playing guard. We had the comment on our

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Speaker 2: our mock draft that we did on Steelers dot Com,

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Speaker 2: the three rounder that we did this the second one

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Speaker 2: and we didn't make the pick, but the computer had

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Speaker 2: the Ravens take Jackson Powers. Johnson at twenty, where they are,

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Speaker 2: twenty eight, twenty nine, wherever they're at right, And we

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Speaker 2: had the comment, well, they've got Linderbaum. Why would they

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Speaker 3: Because they'll be a guard r Yeah, they'll be fine

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Speaker 3: with it. Yeah, no question about it. That internal flexibility

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Speaker 3: is very common around the league. I bet if we

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Speaker 3: put a list together, you know, we all can take

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Speaker 3: take or leave pro football focus. But let's just say

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Speaker 3: they're fifteen centers from last year. I bet very few

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Speaker 3: of them are picked in the first two rounds, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? They're good players. I mentioned for the.

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Speaker 2: Best center in the league over the last decade, who

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Speaker 2: just retired in Philadelphia was a fit with a six

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Speaker 3: He was a six undersized guy. Kelsey we're talking about,

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Speaker 3: of course, I mean so yeah, I mean, the hit

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Speaker 3: rate in the first round is very good. But a

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Speaker 3: lot of teams are playing with really solid mid round

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Speaker 2: I can't get past. You know, we talked about a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago that that fifty year option, the

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Speaker 2: way it is now structured in the NFL, all offensive

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Speaker 2: linemen are the same on their fifty year options brutal,

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Speaker 2: and we know that all offensive linemen are not the same. No,

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Speaker 2: you know, offensive tackles get paid more money than the

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Speaker 3: They're rarer, yes, right.

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Speaker 2: But if you get you have to pick up the

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Speaker 2: fifty year option on your center, he's going to make

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Speaker 2: tackle money.

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Speaker 3: He'll be like the highest paid center in the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: linder Baum's been great for the Ravens first round pick.

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Speaker 2: Are they going to pay tackle money on a fifty

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Speaker 3: To say, he's going to have to be a top

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Speaker 3: three or four center in the league to be worth

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Speaker 3: picked up his fifty year option.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember because he made a probe, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know either, But if he does, now he's

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Speaker 2: getting paid as one of the top five offensive tackles

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Speaker 3: Right, he's making Trent Williams, I mean, like the ones

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Speaker 3: a lot rarer than the other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So if you can draft Trent Williams at twenty, I'd

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Speaker 3: much rather do that.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. It just makes more financial.

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Speaker 3: Sense, it does, it does. I mean that's it's not

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Speaker 3: a small thing, the fifth year option, but it's just

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Speaker 3: one example of you know, even paying him first round money.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be amongst the top ten centers or

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Speaker 3: so in the league.

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Speaker 2: Let's explore this then, Matt. We've done a lot of

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Speaker 2: trade downs when we've done our mock drafts. If if

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Speaker 2: you had the opportunity to go to thirty three, if

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Speaker 2: you were if you were dead set on taking a center.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be to move to make I mean,

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Speaker 3: because I think you then get I think Frasier or

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Speaker 3: Powers Johnson would be there.

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Speaker 2: Would be there, and now you don't have to use

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Speaker 2: a fifty year option on them.

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Speaker 3: Yep, you'd get a lot to go from twenty to

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Speaker 3: thirty three, absolutely, yeah, or thirty, thirty four or thirty.

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Speaker 3: To thirty three, and then I take Powers Johns.

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Speaker 2: Future starters. Yeah, if not this year, there'll be contributors

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could end up with four Benton's. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: When we have done that in our mod drafts, that's

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Speaker 2: And if you can do that and still get your center,

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Speaker 2: That would make a ton of sense to me.

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Speaker 3: But it's not a bad move.

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Speaker 2: No, I would. I would completely get it, because I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got to you gotta you know, you

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Speaker 2: unless you can say we're gonna go fish here, We're

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Speaker 3: Cards, give me some more cards. I'll take all those

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Speaker 3: second round cards. Those are Leggett and Pearsall and Chris

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely right. Yeah, But as omar Con said the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's just some food for thought. There emptations.

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Speaker 3: It would be fun. Run out of time here. We

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Speaker 3: I mean, we could set it up so that way.

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Speaker 2: How about this? How about we the next?

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Speaker 3: All right, that'd be fun.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: And Matt we mentioned that we would do a mock

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Speaker 2: we haven't really done that much here, so we'll see

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Speaker 3: And we don't have to do this, but I think

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Speaker 3: you know, the Frasers, the Power Johnson. Yeah, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: And so this drive actually worked out pretty well because

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Speaker 2: Okay cool, So now we would look.

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Speaker 3: Really interested in making a deal with this nature.

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Speaker 2: So we have one trade offer. It's from Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Uh, they want twenty and one ninety five for twenty

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Speaker 2: nine and sixty one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and then maybe at twenty nine we get.

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Speaker 2: Out of the we may we may trade back again. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: so we're gonna accept that.

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Speaker 3: One, all right. Yeah, because the nature of this whole

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Speaker 2: The picture rolling off here, we're getting down to twenty

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Speaker 3: And once again, I would not love taking a center

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Speaker 2: But okay, okay, we only have one trade offer here again,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, the Bengals are on the phone. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: Cleveland's on the phone, we don't do business with them.

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Speaker 2: Dallas is on the phone. Dallas is offering fifty six,

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Speaker 3: I'd like, I was hoping to go back just a

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Speaker 2: Well, we can, we can, we can still, we can.

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Speaker 2: We can make some offers here. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: an offer to one of.

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Speaker 3: These teams, Carolina or Washington or you know, one of

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Speaker 2: I don't know, who do you want? Who do you want?

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Speaker 2: We got so the team's still at the air. You

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Speaker 3: I would say Arizona or Washington.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk to Arizona first. They've got thirty

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Speaker 2: let's propose a trade with them, the Arizona Cardinals, and

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Speaker 2: we'll give them thirty one for thirty five. And we

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind getting less picks, you know, because we've

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Speaker 3: I don't think we need as many picks as we've had.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to offer them thirty one, one seventy eight

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Speaker 2: and a fifth round pick next year. Okay, for thirty

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Speaker 2: five and a their fourth round pick? Great, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want to next year, next year's fourth round pick.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine. I bet that's that might even be

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Speaker 2: Year, Well, I just want to get there. So let's

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Speaker 2: let's say yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well we don't have to negotiate these trades like

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Speaker 3: we usually do, no biting. They've been that's accepted, Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 3: So now we're there where we want to.

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Speaker 2: Where we wanted to be at. Okay, so we've got

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Speaker 2: two more trade offers. Carolina wants to give us thirty

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Speaker 2: nine to one oh one for thirty five and next

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Speaker 2: year's want to set one of our sevens next year.

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Speaker 3: I think we kind of hang here and see what.

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Speaker 2: Let's just make the picks now, okay, So at third five.

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Speaker 2: The top players available Iron Murphy, wow, surprising, Yeah, Jackson,

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's yeah, what we were looking to do.

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Speaker 2: Zach Frasier. Okay, okay, so you.

437
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 3: Know, now, if we can get until fifty one, we.

438
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 2: Don't pick again until fifty one. If we wanted to,

439
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,119
Speaker 2: we could trade up. We got we got the amo

440
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,399
Speaker 2: to do it. Do we just take powers Johnson say.

441
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 3: Let's take the center, okay, and then go from there

442
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 3: all right? Now, like hey, if Robinson falls five eight

443
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,160
Speaker 3: more spots or somebody.

444
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 2: Like that, he just went, Yeah, he just went thirty nine.

445
00:19:59,280 --> 00:19:59,880
Speaker 3: Figured he would.

446
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,679
Speaker 2: But there are still some very good players there. Uh,

447
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 2: we have a lot our picks. Still, our pick is

448
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 2: coming on.

449
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 3: And we're done now. I don't think we have to

450
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 3: take a tackle, but I would be very interested in receivers,

451
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 3: maybe multiple receivers.

452
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 2: Okay, So Byron Murphy is still there. I don't know

453
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 2: going on with that.

454
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 3: I think that's cheating to be Yeah, we're not. Let's

455
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 3: pretend he Doesah, he went.

456
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: Top players available. Zach Frazier's still.

457
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 3: There, Okay, would have been good to know.

458
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't know. We Trey Benson, Jalen Polk, Ruke Hero, I'm.

459
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 3: Really growing fond of Polk By the way, I think

460
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 3: he's real close to a plug and play number two

461
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 3: for his whole life.

462
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert Woods, Chris Braswell is there, Cameron Kinchins, Patrick

463
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 2: Paul Michael Hall, Mike sant Astrild be really interesting. Senate

464
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 2: Chris Jenkins, Jonathan Brooks. I said that Roman Wilson is there,

465
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 2: Ricky Pearsoll is there. There's there's some dudes there that

466
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 2: we could and we're gonna get. We have six, we

467
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 2: have this pick, then we have sixty one, sixty three,

468
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 2: and ninety eight.

469
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 3: That's kind of what I was talking about before. This

470
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 3: is the beauty of it all. Is I like three

471
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 3: or four of those receivers. I like Jenkins, I like

472
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: Santa Strill. You know that we could make as really interesting.

473
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: Any of the above to me is really interesting. What

474
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 3: do you want to do here? Though?

475
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 2: You know, like, well, that's it. So we make this

476
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 2: move back, as I said, because this gives us the

477
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: opportunity now to take that defensive lineman that if we

478
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 2: stay if we if we stayed where we were at,

479
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 2: we probably don't get if we take the defensive lineman

480
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,479
Speaker 2: with our normal picks, we probably then short ourselves at

481
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: one of those other positions of need.

482
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: Jenkins is my vote for that reason, because there is

483
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 3: going to be a receiver with these next couple of

484
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 3: picks that we could get.

485
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 2: There will be a tackle that we can get. Those

486
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 2: guys will be there. It will definitely be a cornerback

487
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 2: that we'll like.

488
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: I think this is the with cream and Cherry on

489
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: the Sunday that we that we get. That's the benefit

490
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 3: of trading down. All right, now we get the Jenkins.

491
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 2: Let's take Jenkins. Okay, so now we've got Jackson, Powers Johnson,

492
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 2: We've gotten Jenkins.

493
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,239
Speaker 3: And now it's almost like a normal one of our

494
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 3: drafts where we just don't need a center, but we're

495
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: going to be in the any tackles certainly attractive.

496
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: So we've got sixty one sixty three here.

497
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: Okay, we could take two receivers here and I'd be happy.

498
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Fraser's still there. Yeah, that's yeah, Benson, Ruker, ro Hero,

499
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 2: Chris Braswell, Cameron Kinchins, Michael sant Astril still there.

500
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 3: I say Santa Stril could be one of these picks,

501
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 3: would be fine with me, And once again really like

502
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 3: that instead of getting a nickel corner that you really like.

503
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: You get the the nickel corner. Yeah, yeah, in fact,

504
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: I think that's the pick.

505
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 3: Just tell me the receivers real cool.

506
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: We pick it again, We pick again in two picks,

507
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 2: so the receiver is still available. McMillan, devontees Walker, Johnny Wilson,

508
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton. Let's get picked over pretty good, Malik Washington,

509
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: is Air, Brendan Rice.

510
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: I say, take sant asdrill and then we can revisit

511
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: these reis.

512
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah we may. We may take a tackle instead.

513
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: And yeah we gotta hit hard on receiver. That didn't

514
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 3: go as planned, but okay.

515
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 2: It is what it is, all right. So, uh, you

516
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: want to take sant Stroll, I do, all right. Sant

517
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: A Stroll is a pick. Now we're up again here

518
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: at sixty three.

519
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 3: I hate reaching, but I wonder if we should reach

520
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 3: for one of these receivers. But I would also be

521
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 3: interested in a tackle.

522
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 2: Well, the tackle's available.

523
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: Roger Rosengarten at this point, that doesn't bother me at all.

524
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: He's a right.

525
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: Tackle, right athletic.

526
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't see him as a first

527
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: round player, but in this situation, I'm real fine.

528
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, a DJ Blake Fisher.

529
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 3: Okay, I like rose Garden a little more than Fisher.

530
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: I could see that.

531
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a DJ, is really interesting, but I think

532
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: i'd rather have a right tackle. That might be a

533
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: Week one starter.

534
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: You'll take him there, Yeah, let's do it.

535
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Now we need receivers bad.

536
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: Now we now we might double down our next two picks. Well,

537
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: we have one pick left, one nineteen.

538
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: Okay, we also have a lot of future picks that

539
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 3: we could call teams.

540
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: Well, actually we got ninety eight. We got ninety eight

541
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 2: one nineteen coming up.

542
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 3: We could take one of those hats receiver.

543
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 2: We could take back to back receivers.

544
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean at Johnny Wilson, Malik Washington, those type

545
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 3: of guys and receiver didn't go as planned for this exercise,

546
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: which could happen, happen, right.

547
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 2: But again, we may make a trade at some point for.

548
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 3: A veteran.

549
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, trade trade a future pick for a veteran. All right,

550
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: the Bills are offering one twenty eight, one thirty three,

551
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: one sixty for ninety eight and next one of our sevens.

552
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: I think we just stick a pick.

553
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, okay, So the top receivers available, Johnny Wilson,

554
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: I'll be fine with that. Jermaine Burton, Malik Washington, Jamari v.

555
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 3: Fine, Burton's the best player. Yeah. I mean the Steelers

556
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 3: have managed some egos, some oddballs at the receiver position

557
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: more than others. He may not even be on their board.

558
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 3: They may be like he's undraftable. I mean, I honestly

559
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: think he's like the seventh best receiver in this draft.

560
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 2: I would say if he was still available when we

561
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: pick a one nineteen, then it's just too good to go.

562
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. Then you then as the second guy if he

563
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: doesn't work out, if he's a problem child and you

564
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 3: got to send him home, at least have another.

565
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: I think you take Johnny Wilson.

566
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: I really like Wilson.

567
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you take Johnny Wilson here.

568
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 3: I think he also fits what Arthur Smith does. Yeah,

569
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 3: really well.

570
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: All right, so now we're moving here again down to

571
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: one nineteen. This would be really bad radio for us

572
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: on Saturday. Yeah, we'd be doing a lot of talking

573
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 2: about how these new guys fit.

574
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now I mean I'm a conky. I mean,

575
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: the slot wouldn't be terrible here. I think Burton is

576
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: somebody you should grab if available. But there's he's an

577
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 3: odd I mean, he's there's an asterisk nex to his name.

578
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, Okay. The top players available at wide

579
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: receiver Jamari Thrash, Brendan Rice, Jacob Cowing, Luke McCaffrey, TODJ. Washington.

580
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: I was gonna mention the name McCaffrey when I said,

581
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: I just said slot receiver.

582
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: I think you take him.

583
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: I think that's fine with that. Yeah, he couldn't be

584
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: any different than Wilson.

585
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, but you've got you've you've added two bodies

586
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: to that. You know, if one of them hits, you're

587
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: If one of them hits, you're good. If yeah, both

588
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 2: of them hit, your outstanding.

589
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: And I'm still very much in the market for a

590
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 3: veteran wide out. Yeah, but you have I mean we

591
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: you ended up the future picks. It took us two

592
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 3: trades to get in the second round in this mock.

593
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 3: But if you made a deal with the Raiders or

594
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: somebody like that, you'd probably end up with their second

595
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: next year or something good, you know.

596
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: So what we ended up with coming out of that

597
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 2: Jackson powers Johnson at thirty five.

598
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 3: You're starting day one, you're center.

599
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: Chris Jenkins at fifty one.

600
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: I like that a lot.

601
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: Mike san Istra as sixty one.

602
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: Okay, they're gonna room together.

603
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: Roger rosen Garten is sixty three, Johnny Wilson at ninety eight,

604
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Luke McCaffrey at one, nineteen in Arizona's fourth round pick

605
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: next year.

606
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 3: Okay. Now, I would not on draft a eve. I

607
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: would roll the dice and see how things go. I

608
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't just trade the Steelers' picks for that Hall.

609
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: Given that all the offensive tackles were off the board.

610
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: If we would have stuck at twenty and picked and didn't,

611
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: it might have been Power Johnson. Then we don't get

612
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: Santas Trill, don't we don't get Rose and Garden.

613
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: The future pick for Arizona.

614
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: We may not have taken Chris Jenkins.

615
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: H I mean you may use that Arizona pick to

616
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: go trade for a starting receiver like tomorrow.

617
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you now have two fourth round picks next year

618
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 2: to work with.

619
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: And frankly, receiver could have treated us better in this draft, right,

620
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 3: you know, like we could have not taken Jenkins and

621
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: taken Pierce.

622
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: All or So here's the thing I'm looking here.

623
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: As ended up lasting to fifty one. We didn't know that.

624
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking here at the guys still available now

625
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: that the draft is over. At receiver Ryan Flourney from

626
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: Southeast Missouri State and Niah Smith from Texas A and

627
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: m Isaiah Williams from Illinois, Anthony Gold from Oregon State.

628
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: Those are draftable, good players.

629
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: Draftable guys that I may want to bring in anyways.

630
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'd give them and they might make your team.

631
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: So I mean that's gonna be true no matter how

632
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: the first seven rounds go. But I look at this

633
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 2: as our first four picks, we get four doubles.

634
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: Sid I used the Benton example earlier because he was

635
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: not the He was not porter the first pick in

636
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: the second round. He was a mid second round pick,

637
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 3: and I get that he hit. I mean, if they

638
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: redrafted last year's draft, Benton goes, he goes, you know,

639
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: of course, but if you could end up with four

640
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: or five of those and three or four of them

641
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: hit in some degree as a her bigger better.

642
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: Now you've had two back to back draft where you've

643
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: kind of remade your roster, yes.

644
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: And you have an extra big guy that you didn't have,

645
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: or something like that. I think it's just an intriguing

646
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: team build. I mean because really trading down from if

647
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: it was one trade, if you traded from one or

648
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: from twenty to thirty six, you'd have a lot in return.

649
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: Now I would want I want there.

650
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: I want that third as well, and maybe a future second. Yeah,

651
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: from a bad team, you know, right, if the Raiders

652
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: are like, I need Pannix and I'm gonna give you.

653
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pay the quarterback tax to do it, you

654
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: may end up with the Raiders first round pick next year.

655
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: You could, which can go out that far.

656
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be give me your two, give me

657
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: your three, and I want at least your second next year,

658
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: maybe your first, and I'll throw you a three next

659
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: year or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I think if it's lightly interesting, if we looked at

661
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: this in the through the lens of we didn't make

662
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: any trades, and we came out of this draft with Powers, Johnson, Jenkins,

663
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: Sanders Still Rosengart and Johnny Wilson, Luke McCaffrey, don't you bad?

664
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Speaker 2: And an extra fourth round pick.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's not bad, right. I Mean, there's

666
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: a lot of people clamoring going just take Powers Johnson

667
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: at twenty. Okay, but what if we can finagle it

668
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: and get out of the first round. Not worry about

669
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: the fish.

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Speaker 2: Now, you know, we wouldn't have gotten Santes Stroll there

671
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: maybe instead of Rosingard, and we would have gotten Blake Fisher, Yeah,

672
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: which is fine.

673
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: Which is fine, fine, but maybe we wouldn't have taken Jenkins,

674
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: would have taken Pear Salt.

675
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then we didn't get Jenkins, right right right, Yeah,

676
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: then we come out short on the defensive line.

677
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: No. I mean, Jenkins of Burton could be your Broderick

678
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: Jones and Mims of the future, you know what I mean.

679
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: They could be your foundational big guys on defense for

680
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: a long time. I mean, I'm not saying they're Cam Hayward,

681
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: but they could be really good players.

682
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: I don't hate that.

683
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 3: I don't hate that either. I don't hate that either.

684
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: In fact, it makes a lot of sense.

685
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: No, I think it does. I mean I don't think one.

686
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but I don't think one

687
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: of the was it five tackles is going to be

688
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: there at twenty. Yeah, the trading up is fine.

689
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: And in this situation, six six tackles were gone MEMESMS

690
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: was even there.

691
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: Right right, right, Yeah, I mean getting out of around

692
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: one all together is not insane.

693
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: To me, especially in this draft where I think Day two.

694
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: Five two picks.

695
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really a lot of fun. I think there

696
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: are guys in the Day two.

697
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: And the thing we didn't do, which is just hard

698
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: for radio, is if you left day one with nothing,

699
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: but you had five day two picks as well as

700
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: some decent future pick that you didn't have before. No

701
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: one's gonna slip that you don't want. Like, right, boy,

702
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: pearsall fell to forty five.

703
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: We can go get him.

704
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: I can go easily get him from fifty one to

705
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: forty five. Yeah, go get them, no matter who it is, whoever.

706
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: Right, you know, we just made the deal with Arizona.

707
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: We could have maybe gotten Arizona third. I didn't play

708
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: around with it much. We might have been all get

709
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: a third out of Arizona, want to get here.

710
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: But we could have probably got more out of those

711
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: deals than we did. Yeah, without question, So it's interesting

712
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: to me. Yeah, I kind of I think he will be.

713
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: But Pennix or Nicks sitting there at twenty, I think

714
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: Denver and the Raiders really want those two. Yeah, and

715
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: those organizations. Jean Payton will give you anything he wants,

716
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, if he wants Nicks, Okay.

717
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna go get him.

718
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: You either go get him. Yeah right right, I mean,

719
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 3: give me Patritaine and we'll talk. I mean, have them

720
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: joking about give me done.

721
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: That, And it just makes so much more sense if

722
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: you're going if you're in a situation where you're going

723
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: to take a center, he's going to be one of

724
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: your top if not your top pick, then your second pick.

725
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: Do it this way, do it this way, Fraser or

726
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: powers Johnson at thirty five. Yeah, okay, yeah, twenty. I

727
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: don't love it.

728
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: Just because of the positional value.

729
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: Right, it's a totally different conversation than Hey, I'll even

730
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: trade away from Mems at twenty if I can get

731
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: into early early day two and I get that team's

732
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: Carolina's second next year or Raiders or Denvers. Yeah, you

733
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: might need a quarterback folks, right, you know, if you have.

734
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: An extra second next year, that makes it. That's some

735
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: good am to have if you're in the quarterback market.

736
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there I mean again, if I can go,

737
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: if I can get a bad team's second third this

738
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: year and second next year, and maybe I gotta throw

739
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: a little something in besides twenty. That's a lot of

740
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: good stuff. Yeah, that's a lot of good stuff. Absolutely

741
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: would be a blast.

742
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

743
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive. You're on

744
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back for more right after

745
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Speaker 2: this this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

747
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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

748
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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

749
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie.

750
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

751
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: and Matt. The Steelers have, according to Ian Rappaport, restruck

752
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: sure the contract of Alex high Smith to create an

753
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: additional seven million dollars in cap space.

754
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, I wonder why they would do that. Well,

755
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: you always say this, and I think you're dead on.

756
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 3: They very rarely do a move like this just to

757
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 3: Willy Neary create caps price. I mean, there's almost always

758
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 3: another shoe to drop. They need it for player X. Well,

759
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: I'm interested to player X is if that's.

760
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: This gets them to about eighteen million dollars in cap space.

761
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 3: And we know some of it goes to draft picks.

762
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: Then they're going to go into the and they'll year

763
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: with They'll be yeah something right, so I'm gonna add

764
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: some other veterans.

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00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: But this tells me they've they've got some kind of

766
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: move that they're in the process of.

767
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Speaker 3: The reason they do it today, I assume because there's

768
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: something another shoe to draw, right, Does that mean it's

769
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: gonna be I UK, I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: Could it be Connor Williams, Could it be you know,

771
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: a lot of there's a lot of different ways that

772
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 2: they can go with. Maybe they maybe they do make

773
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 2: that trade for Courtland Sutton where maybe they you know,

774
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of things that they could do there

775
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: with that additional cap space.

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00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And I mean the fact that it's the

777
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: d before the draft makes me also think, Okay, we're

778
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: gonna be so busy in the exact couple of days.

779
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: We want to make sure we have the flex make

780
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: sure we.

781
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 3: Have we were planning on doing it anyways. Maybe there's

782
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: not another shoe to drop, but over the next three days,

783
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: if we're talking about, you know, moving back in round

784
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: one or you know, any trade on you of draft picks,

785
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: it might include a player, right, include a Dane Jackson

786
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: type guy. You know, some we're not thinking about that

787
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 3: they have their eye on. That's Courtland Sutton. I mean whoever.

788
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: I mean, Connor Williams makes sense. I mean a lot

789
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: of these It's going to go to somebody soon, I bet.

790
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. So just interesting that they made that move and

791
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: you know, again gives them some flexibility and they still

792
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: have other moves that they could make to free up

793
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: more cash if needed.

794
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have. They've really structured their team well in

795
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: terms of flexibility with the cap. I mean, they're amongst

796
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: the lowest in the league of guaranteed money that is

797
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 3: already guaranteed going forward. You know, so their contracts are

798
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: very fluid, very liquid, which is on purpose, you know.

799
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it gives you the flexibility to make moves like this.

800
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: Your GM's a former cap guy.

801
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, you know, it just makes me think that

802
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: something is in the you know, it wouldn't surprise me

803
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: if they come out of let's say they make their

804
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: picks on Day one of the draft and then Friday

805
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: or Saturday even Sunday we get news at oh, the

806
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: Steelers have signed Connor Williams.

807
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: Something along those lines that would make all the sense

808
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: in the world. Yeah, maybe it's a receiver. See If

809
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: it's a receiver, though, he wouldn't be super pricey, right

810
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: even Like I bet Odell's the priciest receiver on the

811
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: open market right now. I don't mind implying the Steelers

812
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: going to sign Odell, but he's not. I mean, you

813
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: wouldn't even have to make this move to sign Boyd

814
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: or Renfro or any of the guys that are out

815
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 3: there now. There aren't many positions, and that's probably true

816
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 3: for just about any position. I mean, how many UFAs

817
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: would you have had to restructure to land right now? Yeah,

818
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: I just think it's a trade.

819
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: I just think back a couple of years ago. They

820
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: went through the draft on Sunday when they when they

821
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: announced their undrafted free agent class, they also announced the

822
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: signing of Demonte Casey.

823
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

824
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: They kind of slid that one on, you know, by

825
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: it because they didn't get a safety in.

826
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: The draft, and they probably happened on Thursday or Friday, Right.

827
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: They agree to it and then they say Okay, we're

828
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: gonna you know, once we get through the draft, will

829
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: announce it.

830
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: Then you don't want to steal from the the draft

831
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: picks thunder, but you don't, you know, And there's some

832
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: pr stuff they're involved too. But now that's interesting. I mean,

833
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm curious if there's another shoe to drop before the

834
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: draft even starts.

835
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, they don't make this move unless

836
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: they're going to do something. They're giving themselves the option

837
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: to do something. You know, if you do and I

838
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: know the AUK stuff is out that's out there right

839
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 2: and everybody's talking about.

840
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 3: But so people in Jacksonville and the other franchises.

841
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: Would you do this, Matt? If the forty nine Ers said, okay,

842
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: how about this? You know, the the asking price, reportedly

843
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: is the Steelers first round draft pick. What if you

844
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: went to them and said, how about this, we'll swap

845
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: first round draft picks with you. We'll give you George

846
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: pick and George Pickens for Brandon Ayuk. Would that be

847
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: enough if you're San Francisco moving from thirty one to twenty. Yeah,

848
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: getting George Pickens, who's eight thousand yard receiver, right, probably

849
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: better than anybody you would draft at twenty, they still

850
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: could draft on and they could they could do whatever.

851
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: They They could draft whoever they want at twenty. Then

852
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: that might get them into maybe they have their eye

853
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: on a cornerback that they want to get in this

854
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: draft line or different. Maybe they want one of these

855
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 2: defensives or one of these ends.

856
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: Corner and O line are their probably biggest needs if

857
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: they were to stick and pick it thirty one. Wide

858
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: receiver aside. I mixed feelings about that from a Steelers perspective.

859
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,479
Speaker 3: I you phenomenal, yes, but then you got to pay him,

860
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: and you gotta pay him, and that price tag for

861
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: him is fine. I think you saw have the draft

862
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: one then you're like, I'm not done at receiver with

863
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: that deal. I could if I could keep Pickens in

864
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: that auk, I'm done.

865
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: But you haven't lost any draft picks. But right, you know,

866
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 2: if you've taken and you've traded George Pickens for Brandon Ayuk,

867
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: and you move back in the first round.

868
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: And rewind a segment, then that's Powers Johnson or a

869
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 3: receiver or whatever.

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00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: You could maybe take Lad McConkie at thirty one.

871
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think it's a bad deal.

872
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: I don't love moving Pickens in the deal, but that's

873
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: the only way something like that would work, of course.

874
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 2: If I can get Auk out of it, right.

875
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: I mean he was a one. Yeah, and Pickens, you hope,

876
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: is a one. Iuk's an easy one all day long.

877
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: What about blocks?

878
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 3: Oh he does?

879
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he he blocks.

880
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 3: So the deals I've heard again this is speculation. Would

881
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: you be more interested in the one you offered, or

882
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: would you be more interested in trading your first two

883
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: picks for AYUK and thirty one and you have to

884
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: throw in next year's second.

885
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not interested in that.

886
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: I mean next year second. Can't forget you might need

887
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: a quarterback now.

888
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: If you might need a quarterback next year and next

889
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: year's next year's drafts could be really deep.

890
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, may have might have no quarterbacks. It might have none,

891
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: It might have great ones. You may have signed one.

892
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 3: You may have extended Russell Wilson and Fields and they're

893
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: both going to the Hall of Fame and everything's great.

894
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: Who knows, But trading early picks next year doesn't really excite.

895
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: No, I'm not into that.

896
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because that's kind of the asking price. I've

897
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: heard is you can go twenty for AYUK. All right,

898
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: I get it.

899
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know that I want to give

900
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: up twenty, have no first round draft pick this year,

901
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: but have a YUK. But then I got to pay

902
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: AYUK twenty five million dollars.

903
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't love that either.

904
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

905
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 3: I love the player, love, love, love the player, but

906
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: I kind of won an early offensive lineman. Yeah right,

907
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: all of a sudden. You don't have that, and the

908
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: O line looks pretty Battle of a sudden.

909
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, let's get to another break. That's going to

910
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: do it for our number one of the drive, though

911
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 2: we'll be back with our number two of the drive

912
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: right after this