1 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Catch that man outside the arena. Everybody ain't to be 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: played with like that, you know. And Russ got some 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: pitts up. He ain't like when y'all was calling him Westbrook, bro, 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: like that Russell Westbrook when he was when he was 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: at the Lakers, they started calling that man Westbrook. Oh yeah, 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: he didn't got right with the Clippers. 7 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: But I had chanced the White on y'all show, right, yeah, 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: then we did, and then crazy. He's very crazy. You 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: know what he's doing. Though, he ain't got mad at you. 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: Didn't he a man, He a man at them. He 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: ain't get mad at me. That nigga still be Nigga 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: did the ship, got mad, didn't want to come back. 13 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: He still me. But you know what's crazy, I think 14 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: just the shock value is just generation seeing we had 15 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: a thousand Charleston White's every hood like. 16 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 3: That's when I was, Yeah, I like that some shit 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: Charleston White. He saying rub y'all, yeah more my uncle 18 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: get really shit, y'all. 19 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: Then everyhood had that. 20 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah you gonna be mad at here you come around 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: the fam. See, du grew up with my uncles. He 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: was one of the only gay dudes around. Like old 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: school gay dudes. They talked my uncle, he dad. He 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, well just another bitch of me. 25 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: And walked out and through it. Hell god. Yeah. See 26 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: that's another thing, boy, you had to be. You had 27 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: to be bearing gifts to be gail and you know 28 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: and horllering like you know they w they were doing 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: on the booster. Oh that's who would do the booster? 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: The other gay dudes? 31 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: Why they definitely cause I know booster being hollering, y'all, 32 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: that's how y'all got Yes, But they. 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: Couldn't function unless the it was bearing gifts. It's like 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: you can't even like you ain't got nothing and ain't 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: real to get to get hurry up. Yeah, that's crazy. 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah I never Yeah, yeah, a nigga switch down the block. 37 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: Would be like Brenni's village and all they would go 38 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: down to the village, m but they lived uptown or 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: lived in bron weevers, just like they had to either 40 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: be bringing gurgles around mm right, saying that was another 41 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: thing they had to They had all the mob, they 42 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: had all the bad goods and okay, okay, I'm saying right, 43 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: so you know you wasn't a dodge in it either 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: or then you were suspect it like right around this niggas, 45 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: you ain't getting no food from 'em or you ain't 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 47 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: And y'all the land of the palls, huh, y'all the 48 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: land of the pa So I know, I know y'all was. 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: They was just here A couple said they ain't definitely 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 2: an't invent that though he ain't invented right, Yeah, yeah, 51 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he responsible for a lot of 52 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: good things, but he ain't probably for everything. 53 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, long when you hear some shit like 54 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: this though, like you m you made this? So yeah, 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: like when you hear the instrumental? Or how long did 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: it take you to put some shit like this together? 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: This used to take me no time. 58 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: He was quick. 59 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: How long was this in the vault before it came out? Uh? 60 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: This one of the ones that came straight. Matter fact, 61 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: I remember the first time Puffs played this beat for me. 62 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: We was riding down. We was in like m we 63 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: was like in midtown Manhattan played a joint for me. 64 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: I was like, we want a studio right now. But 65 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: something you know what I'm saying? Oh God, let he 66 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: were out of here. Yeah you know he he we 67 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: in the up hood and all that. I'm like, look, 68 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: I don't even wanna play like that, like let's go. Yeah, 69 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: you know cause it was my song cause you I 70 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: remember I wrote I need a girl you was wrote 71 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: I don't wanna know. I see what letro booming them 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: just did that over, you know, checking that. 73 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah. 74 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, I'm joints come. That's another thing because 75 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: I ain't never really been in a conversation where people 76 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: start talking about the publishing and stuff. I always own 77 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: my publishing, so I always had good business for so 78 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: you always how did you know? But before that, boy, 79 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: I was signed as sign. 80 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: On a good jibe, so you got the business aspect. 81 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: I learned the business before I got in there come 82 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: the street. Anything. You ain't going to jump off the 83 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: porch and be, you know, freestyle. You gotta know what 84 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: you're getting into. So the business, you know. 85 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: I was just about to say, go to hook man 86 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: right here, one of. 87 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: The man here, talented sid. I tell him I don't 88 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: even listen to it. I appreciate I still got an it. 89 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, And don't give me wrong, 90 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: Like you know, I fight, I fight you know it's 91 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: not a struggle. Sometimes ain't I ain't gonna howe. Yeah, 92 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 2: sometimes be left like not murdered. 93 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: So you don't want to get in the studio paid 94 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 4: no more? 95 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: Is it? What? What? What's music saying? What? Well? The 96 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: instruments is with you know, not permissible, right? Voice is yours? 97 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: Given that? So like spoken word poetry, stuff like that 98 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: is permissible for muscles, But it's the instruments. 99 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 4: Mmm. 100 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: Because the instruments you already know, it's harder to get 101 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: that out the alcohol. You can piss alcohol out of 102 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: your systems. But there be whole day stuck had so 103 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: much stuff. 104 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, stuff stuck in my head from Instagram. 105 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: Man, you could be going to the dentists and elevated 106 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: listen to some more crap like. 107 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 4: So it's it's like with the sound ways, you gotta 108 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: break it down to then. 109 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: Is it something like the instruments. 110 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 4: It's because it's being repetitive in your head and it's 111 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 4: not worthy enough. 112 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: For you to consume or ever remove you from the 113 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: memories of God. MM. So what you seeing historically is 114 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: people try to incorporate that into religion, right, what I'm saying, Right, 115 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: But you look at the essence of religion, whether it 116 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: it's you know, during the time of Moses, during the 117 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: time of Jesus, during the time of Prophet Mohama, Jesus 118 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: sin his followers, wasn't no band, So them calling people 119 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: to religion, they wasn't calling it to 'em using music, 120 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: using any other means other than what was given to them. 121 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. They had a divine scripture 122 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: and that's what they called the people to what was legislated. 123 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: So now where you start using alternatives, you know what 124 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying, that's a innovation, regardless of how popular it 125 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: became in certain culture, but it is a innovation, you 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So those are one of the 127 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: things that you know, in Islam, we try to safeguard 128 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: ourselves from just anything that's an innovative act. M okay 129 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: saying yeah, yeah, So it's a statement you know from 130 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: the prophet Muhammed. He said, uh An, after I fear 131 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: umbily not have that my lace are men who for 132 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: whole arity, whoever invents something into this thing of ours 133 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: is not from it will be rejected. M So whatever 134 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: the legislative from God, that's what we follow you know 135 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We commanded trim the mustache, lead a beer. 136 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: That's what we do, right, you know what I'm saying. 137 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: So it's a religion to follow us, cause it's our 138 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: innate nature to follow right, Right, you know what I'm saying. 139 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: We we we've we've conjured up independence in all these 140 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: terms that really we can't avote, right, We creatures in 141 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: need pure. You cannot hold your bladder right now, twenty 142 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: four hours. You got to peak, got to go, You 143 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: gonna get your shout, got to eat, you got you 144 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: know what saying. We are creeduff. You gotta do, You 145 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: gotta breathe. So when people are faster for food, I'm 146 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: glad you said that. We gotta eat. You gotta eat. 147 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: But when it's time, it's like, all right, we're gonna 148 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 4: do them thirty days. 149 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know nothing and it's just fruit and water. 150 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: What is that? Well, because you lose. 151 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: A lot of I know you you're gaining something, but 152 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: you're losing. 153 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: That's a very personal act of worship, you know what 154 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Because people can see you pray, right, people 155 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: can see you, you know, give charity, right, No one 156 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: can see you fast. Right, that's actually more intimate. That's 157 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: between you and guys. That's fact. I'm doing this with 158 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: DC like damn you slim anywhere. It's like you got damn. 159 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean. 160 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: You can't. 161 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: Can't nobody see you hungry, We can see. 162 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 2: You the lost weight. You're just looking at people with 163 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: You can attribute waiting lords to a lot of things, 164 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: especially hood. Right, come on, man, you got that ship? 165 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 2: Are you on that ship? 166 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 5: You know what faster and faster do help you mention 167 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 5: it that you know that you can't live without. 168 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. See, it increases your gratitude right 169 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: for small things, right, and you need that every nowadays 170 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: you talk. 171 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: You're talking about like personal this part of uh Ramadan, well. 172 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: Ramadan is actually the name of a month. Okay, In 173 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: that month every religious scripture was revealed. So even in 174 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: the quarterand a lad mentioned that fast and was prescribed 175 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: for those before you. So that means that it was 176 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: something that was prescribed in the Tordar, it was something 177 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: that was prescribed in the Gospel psalms. Because these are 178 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: the revealed books that we you know, we we we 179 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: had hit. We know we we acknowledged them. Well even 180 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 2: know we followed the kurand but we acknowledged that there 181 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: were books that were revealed prior to the Kodan, right, 182 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, So you'll never hit Muslim burning 183 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: obiles or doing nothing to disseminate anybody else's book. And 184 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: it comes from you know, that comes from the same 185 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: god we worship. Yeah, you know, but yeah, it's just simplicity, man. 186 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: You know, we always we always raised a confusion. At 187 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: some point. You just gotta get to a point where 188 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: I think. 189 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 4: I'm tired of being don't know ship even though you 190 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: ain't gonna never know ship. 191 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: At that point, it's like you're not. 192 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: You know, you don't feel compelled to just want to 193 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: go out and want to go learn something. 194 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: You know, they try to make it learning like it's bad. 195 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,479 Speaker 4: You shouldn't wand or have knowledge of You ain't gotta follow. 196 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: It, but you can have knowledge of the fact. You 197 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: see what I'm saying, They ain't gonna do to me. 198 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: But damn, you don't want people just be talking around 199 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: here and you don't even know who they are. That's 200 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: just that what that represents, especially you frequent in a 201 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: lot of different circles, right, you know what I'm saying, 202 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: and well were calling for you know that's a vulnerability. 203 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: Come on now, you know I don't want to be 204 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: they're picky. 205 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 5: But then then then then will also be the free 206 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 5: pick because they. 207 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: Know we don't know nothing all. 208 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: They may assume, yeah, this brother ain't picked up a 209 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 4: book and you don't know. 210 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 6: Who we are. 211 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: That's what I learned about Lanta. See I've been asked 212 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: since two thousand and one. Right, you know this joint 213 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 2: became a hug so you can right when it was 214 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: shark ball, like I was here in the second grade. 215 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,359 Speaker 2: I was here when you couldn't you couldn't get directions 216 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 2: from nobody. You know what I'm saying, How you get 217 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: to sech I ain't from here? Man from Detroit? I ain't. 218 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: I ain't from here. I'm from Chicago. They might like, right, 219 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: you know, saying I ain't meet real land of niggas 220 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: got locked up? Oh yeah, you're a bucket. That was 221 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: a right, that's yeah. Yeah, as soon as I was 222 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: in the right stoet, that's where I met the real land. 223 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 3: You yeah, I. 224 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm mean niggas on the phone, I fu up? 225 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: Should I got out? I'm like, you know, see those 226 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: were the real right take us take us back bad 227 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: cause we can't see him act like you ain't that nigga. 228 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: We can't see here at like you ain't that. 229 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 4: I think people forth we made, but I don't think 230 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 4: people understand like you was the suave. 231 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: Nigga who that I seen first? You know what I'm saying, like, 232 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: take us back? Like how you you. 233 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 4: Get with with with Diddy and and and and get 234 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: on that scene? 235 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: Man? How you even get into the music? That's a 236 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: good question. Look exactly well I used to. I used 237 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: to write a diary. 238 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 4: Right, you know what I'm saying, And and how important 239 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: is that? 240 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: Well for me? See like I was wild, Like growing out, 241 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: I was wild. I ain't gonna lie like. I got 242 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: kicked out almost every school right I went to. I 243 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: had a very intense temple. Right, so in order to 244 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: go to public school, I had to go to therapy 245 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: like four years. They wouldn't even allow me to go 246 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: to public school. But academically, I was shocked. You couldn't 247 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: put me in specially especially head was it just for 248 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: people behavior that you had to have a learning deficiency, 249 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: So you couldn't just put me in it because my 250 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: behavior because academically I accept Yeah. So the compromise was 251 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: I had to go to City College every Monday and 252 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: Thursday for four years ship to get therapy. What man, 253 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: you're talking about second grade? Third fourth grade? Like really, 254 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: I think it started maybe around like fourth grade all 255 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: the way up to like sixth seventh grade. You know 256 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But what happened is what I derived 257 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 2: from all of those therapy sessions. I learned how to 258 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: articulate certain things because I didn't. I didn't know how 259 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: to speak, you know what I'm saying. I didn't develop 260 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: a voice till like later, you know what I'm saying, 261 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: Like people in your you know, proximity, I know, yeah 262 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: all the time, but it's like I didn't have it 263 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: for everybody, you know what I'm saying. So I dealt 264 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: with things a little different one way, you know what 265 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah. So when I learned to vent, so 266 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: to say, right, it started to suffice some of the 267 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: anger issues. So I used to write it in three forms, 268 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: like I write it like I write it for a teacher. 269 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: Then I would write it like I wrote it for 270 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: like a nigga in jail. You know your man, you 271 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: know your man such and such, right, then I would 272 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: write it in rhyme, you know what I'm saying. So 273 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: by the time I went through that process, whatever was 274 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: bothering me was old. So this every day. 275 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you're doing this for four. 276 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: Years and you doing after therapy. 277 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: So kept three different writing styles down there every day. 278 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can seal it from the people around me. 279 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: So just the kicker. Right. One time, me and my men, 280 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: I bought a car that was tagged up. But the 281 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: dudes that did it did a sloppy joke. You know, 282 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: the car got like three serial numbers on it this one. 283 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: So I caught a grand theft, auto charge or whatever 284 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: the case may behind. And I left my notebook at 285 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: the spot where I was getting money. You know what 286 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying. I left my joint in the spot, right. 287 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: So my man found the book and he came to 288 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: bomb me out, picked me up, and he started saying 289 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: lines that sounded mad familiar. Right, I'm like, yo, where's 290 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: my book at? But you know, because it was this 291 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: vulnerable moment, it's stuff in there you don't need to 292 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: be right because like you know, it's like it ain't 293 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: gonna makee me look soft for nothing. It's like if everybody, 294 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: anybody found out Tony Soprano was seeing the psychology he murder. 295 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: So it was the same type of man for me, like, yo, 296 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: hold what my book, but started discouraging me. He encouraged me, like, yo, 297 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: I'm playing like this is you know, I'm all right 298 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: whatever man in my book. You know I talk about 299 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: it after. 300 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: So that's what let me actually read your ship though 301 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: you locked up for some gangs. 302 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: And ship, this nigga at the house read I ain't 303 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: gonna lie direct them bitches, you know. 304 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: But you know what it was related stuff. You know, 305 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: it was stuff that me and even me and him 306 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: mad experience. So like, for example, you know, we go 307 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: get a whole joint from the Dominicans, the eighth of 308 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: it go back in your mind, I want to go 309 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: up and kill all the Dominicans, like you know, I 310 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: gotta get that out of my system. So that's where 311 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: the creative part came. And so it's like it would 312 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: be the first couple of stages would be a reality, 313 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: but the rhyme would be how it would have debt. 314 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: And that's really what everybody else was doing and still 315 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 2: to the day doing you know what I'm saying, They 316 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: glorifying or dramatizing what they feel they would do, probably do, 317 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: do they do, whatever the case may be, is just 318 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: articulating either emotion that's real, you know what I'm saying, 319 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: an action that may have you know, preceded the emotion, 320 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. But that's really was my reality, 321 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: you know. So yeah, turn into a career. Because I 322 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 2: was a ghost writer first. I never wanted to be 323 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: in the camera, right, you know what I'm saying, because 324 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: I was scared because like I had, I was young, 325 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: I toured with cocaine. I was everywhere in different towns. 326 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Going back to like ninety 327 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: ninety one ninety two, you said you tour it with 328 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 2: cocaine like it was a band. You know what I mean? No, 329 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: I know, okay, because it's nickel band or now like 330 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: well we had for Nickel bags in Harlem, that joint 331 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: will go for twenty dollars in another number town, right, 332 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: storyally cast, No New York dude, We was everywhere flag anywhay, right, 333 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And you know my crew 334 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 2: we were disciplined though, because like we ain't gonna do 335 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: no local girls. You know, dude, probably been watching little 336 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: Tasha since fifth grade. And you come and tell me 337 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: like it's the money right the time, mess some money 338 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: ocol right or Tunisia whoever, who is straight on, bring 339 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 2: your own, bring your own work, bring a little joint 340 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: from hall right. And you know she fo yeah and 341 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: she y right. You know it's it's out of town trip, 342 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: going to you know, staining something you know for her. 343 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: She ain't nowhere. 344 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Balls different, Yeah, came, you asked to go to want me. 345 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: To go with you and the girls and then say 346 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: that say that word because they like New. 347 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: York niggas do get the holes out of town fast. 348 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 2: So just by y'all talking. So when I used to 349 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: ghost right like the first person of a ghost right 350 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: before was shot. It's like ninety five you're talking about shot. 351 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: What you wrote he was righting for snag. He was 352 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: right when he. 353 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 7: Was shack food that okay, he was shot. 354 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: You did it all right, go ahead. It was the 355 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: one I think Kobe was on. 356 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Kobe was on the s Yeah Kobe rapper 357 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: the song. 358 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: One time they y'all was trying to they would never 359 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: let that ship. 360 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: Go that ship crazy, you say you got a copy 361 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: of that month. 362 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: But he had a long as freestyle. 363 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: Then he was one hundred bars or something, and the 364 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: commissioner was like, nigga. 365 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: If you have. 366 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: Now you get you know what I'm saying, and put 367 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: a suit on. 368 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: Take us to the studio when you're recorded to ship to. 369 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 6: Give me the computer this got. 370 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: They take a hard drives and everything. The next day 371 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: that was dunk and doing what studio I used to write. 372 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: Take the check straight to the dealer. Yeah, the checks 373 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: we got a universe owner. You's just like a car 374 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: dealer like, look well you know and then cats like 375 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: because like I left the street for music, you know 376 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I subjected myself to a career 377 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: that you know, if I'm gonna get it this time, 378 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: I get my money. 379 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: You goroll some ship with somebody and the right like 380 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: the ship good when you do it. 381 00:20:52,600 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: And then you hear what I said. To be honest 382 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: with you, I haven't experienced that because one I never 383 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: wrote on paper. That process that I did when I 384 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: was younger enabled me to do songs without having to write, 385 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 2: because I created a format that we all learned in school. Right, 386 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: it's a subject, I mean settings, body conclusion. Right, that's 387 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: a song, right, you know what I'm saying. Unless you freestyling, 388 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: you you know, because it's like people understand like when 389 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 2: you format a song. And this was what I learned. 390 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: That's why I said music business was a business. You 391 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It wasn't something that I was. 392 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 2: I was love received popular in my hood growing up. 393 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: You know, I always was received. I never had the 394 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: you know, forger identity chainber hairstyle for him five times 395 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: trying to find myself that I was always good. So 396 00:21:54,119 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: it's like it was a study for me. You become effective, 397 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and find your niche is 398 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: to understand what it is you know you do. So 399 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: it's like I think a lot of people like when 400 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: you see like like people used to freestyle. I could 401 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 2: take a line out the middle of your joint, put 402 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: at the top and it wouldn't all to the song. 403 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: You would never know because they just punchlines, right. But 404 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: if you have a song that's flowing in a particular format, 405 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: if you take something owative, you aorto the whole song. 406 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: And that's the difference between songwriting and rapping, I felt 407 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: like I was a song rapper. I never thought I 408 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: was a rapper. You know what I'm saying. I didn't 409 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: have a manager with me, like you kick the one 410 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: about your grandmother like I have it, like like you know, 411 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: you know something, you have to wind up nigga with 412 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: my little nigga that speak more than the rappers and 413 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: like kick that joint. 414 00:22:51,080 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 6: Right, you're gonna say that jet. 415 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: You know what for this song more than get you? 416 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, what fine. 417 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 6: Contest too much? 418 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: Too much? Be looking at what are you doing? 419 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: We're saving that hype man that you ain't never gonna 420 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: win a battle rap without the hype man facts you need. 421 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: I ain't a lot, that's how like I used to 422 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: get on a lot of records when I came down 423 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: here and I did the promise me mixed right that right, 424 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: you have a. 425 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: Later versus and you was too cool on that bitch 426 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: because you know you a real lady. 427 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: Next time you ever listened to the ship back like no, 428 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: I need a little bit, so you did. 429 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: The what you did for Jack was always right, like 430 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 3: you ain't getting people like the tonight You's like I 431 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: know this ship your niggas. 432 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: You gotta listen like it. I can't. 433 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: But now we see how he wrote it, so he 434 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: already more competent in this ship because he already knows 435 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: I said this. 436 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 6: When you urse came off, you got the you was 437 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 6: like this, car. 438 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: I need a girl. I should be with you talk 439 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: talking about I need a girl. You know what I'm saying. 440 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: Because now that I need a girl and they talk 441 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: about spending the black dick on my own, I'm to 442 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: break my best down. 443 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: You try to put a dick on your Is she 444 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: okay with that? 445 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 6: You watch it? 446 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: That's a fla. I need a girl and I gotta 447 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: take these feels right now. I need a girl. But 448 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: oh no, bro, that is crazy. Bro the weird time. Now, 449 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna like you know when I look back. 450 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: And that's the thing with me. It ain't just the music. 451 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: It's all inclusive. So like a lot of time, some people, 452 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: I think you could extract one thing and leave off 453 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: the rest. For me, that can't happen. So it's either 454 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: all or nothing. Okay, you know what I'm saying. There's 455 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: no way you could to move the base or something. 456 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: But you know, still kind of you know, indulging things 457 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: that come from that base, you know, because we all 458 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: know that I don't care where industry, you in, all 459 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: these circles meet, you know what I'm saying. So that's 460 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: why you see athletes getting in trouble that used to 461 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: be taboo. Like when I was coming in a I 462 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: was the only one pawn rolls tattoos. He ain't do nothing. 463 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: But when he was at a high school, shit happened 464 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 2: and it's like that ain't got him tattoos. Well he 465 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 2: had the little case, so you know, cause you go, 466 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: that was old. But that actually, I think if I remember, 467 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: it impeded him a year before you went to Jeordian 468 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: like Georgia yet George get shot. You know what I'm saying, 469 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 2: Jeordie time. Yeah, that's me. I mean we had some reason. 470 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: I still believe that. 471 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: I still believe he could play by two three most seasons, 472 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: that nigga cold. 473 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: He always been like I know everybody got there Jordan, 474 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: but he was my Jordan's like, I'm third the one. 475 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 5: I ain't get a chance to see Jordan until he 476 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 5: got with the Wizards. 477 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was another Jordan. 478 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 8: There's a sistillutt but it was like, it's funny you 479 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 8: say that because for any any like time, if you 480 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 8: think of like any. 481 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: In the city, kid, that's a fact. Like what you said, 482 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like Jordan's was by far 483 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 2: to go great. I don't even get in those arguments 484 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: with people they start comparing the greatest. 485 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 7: I remember when grown men used to go home and 486 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 7: go in the house and watch this ship every boys 487 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 7: game on TV. So I got question, though, who impact 488 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 7: was bigger on the culture? 489 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: Mike Mike just a. 490 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: Lot because to look like Mike went shaving their head 491 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: to look like Mike. 492 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: Mother what commercial Niggas was. 493 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: Shaving the head like Niggas getting. 494 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: I could be like, hey, I could be like not 495 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: to get brand to be like sometimes he is. Yeah, 496 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: I'm talking about culture. I'm talking about culture and image. Yeah, 497 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: I'm talking about culture. 498 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 6: Okay, now I look at their feet. 499 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: Exactly what else that? 500 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 9: This is what I was. 501 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: Look you thought about him this morning? 502 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 9: This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. 503 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 9: You couldn't be Michael. Niggas said, be like Mike. 504 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: But you knew you couldn't be, Like you knew you 505 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: couldn't jump like that. 506 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 2: You knew that when you saw this. Listen, listen, let 507 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 2: me minute. 508 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 10: When you saw AI, you was like, damn this. 509 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: Nigga smaller than everybody. More people identified he's more people. 510 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: Identified with him. Now, more people wanted to show up 511 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: dressed like AI. He's outside of the Jays. 512 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: But hold up, you wearing boot cut? What you're doing 513 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: with your fit outside the James. 514 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 6: Taking shoes off? 515 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna tell you this. If you go back 516 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: to the like Mike commercial, right, it was kids in 517 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: every sport with athletes in every sport. Yeah, so to 518 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: be like Mike was to be the best at whatever is. Listen, 519 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So when you see this 520 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: commercial campaign, this is all this. 521 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah A I had a game Saturday. He was AI 522 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: the whole time. But after the game, him and his 523 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: potting them went to the club. Guess when he put 524 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: on some j Come on, man, that's all I'm fucking saying. 525 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: That's all that's Michael Jordan had people. 526 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: Shaving their head. Huh, you're talking about marketing and campaign Gatorade, Nike. 527 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're getting that right now. I'm talking about niggas. 528 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 3: It's wasn't good nigga, you got we ain't eat it 529 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: all right. 530 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: All nothing about y'all just said it. 531 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 9: Y'all just said shoot, y'all just said it. 532 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: What they literally the lensbid sixty percent lesbians looked like Ai. 533 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: He was eating sea through bread. Am I right with milk? 534 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: It was more motherfuckers getting raided when AI came along. 535 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,239 Speaker 2: I'm talking about colon Emmy run up. I'm gonna tell 536 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: you one day they ain't. It came with Ai. The 537 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: baggy shorts. Jordan got fined every game for winning biggest shorts. 538 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: He wasn't wearing the joints like Magic and Birden them 539 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: back in the day. The short jail. He started with him. 540 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: He started with him. He's not changing. 541 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: Look look. 542 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 6: Supposed to be on the move all the time. 543 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: We were just talking about you know guy in the day, 544 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: Cliud Fraser all like. But you know That's what I'm saying, Like, 545 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: I don't like to get in those conversations because all 546 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: of them, all of them impacted the car, all of 547 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: them inspired young people that don't want to be better. 548 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: I think, hey, I made people feel comfortable with who 549 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: they were. You know what I'm saying, Because you gotta 550 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: think like Jordan was in the political NBA saying he was, 551 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: but he still broke the broke. She's still not say 552 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: he didn't, but when to identify. Yeah, but when a 553 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: I came, you didn't want to watch the game on 554 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: TV no more, you wanted to go to the game. 555 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We caught the game on 556 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: TV to watch all those other legends. But a I 557 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: made you want to go. You know why, because if 558 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: he was accepted on the court, then we accepted in 559 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: the arena, like we can come up in here with this, 560 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 2: with tax and all that. We don't feel a lot 561 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: of place don't get enough credit. 562 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 11: In my pinion, it's for Sheep Wallace with the patch 563 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 11: because Nigga played and motherfucker from a pat top Air 564 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 11: Force once this is literally shot. 565 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: He said that is not built playing. He said he 566 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: ain't nothing Team Jordan place. He came into town. She 567 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: was going through some person who stuff. 568 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 6: Oh that's a person, right, it shouldn't be. 569 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 2: I don't men first of all shout out what you do? 570 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: Keep playing with Nigga pull up. 571 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: Indeed said Air Force ones had orthodox in it, so 572 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: they're not just regular like that's what I thought too. 573 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 10: But I've seen him some ship. I was like, Okay, 574 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 10: he was not ship. He worried all the options of 575 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 10: shoes to play in. He chose Air Force one. 576 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: He said that's what he saw his o gs play 577 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: here and that's from where he got. No, he didn't 578 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: you playing that they're not qualified basketball shoes always that 579 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: they're played in the product. 580 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: Bro. He left his shoes and. 581 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: That niggas out there some hot top products, the Gilad. 582 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: It was either a lot of crazy. 583 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: Run with him. 584 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's always so many famous people from harm though, 585 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 12: what was what is what is that like? Because when 586 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 12: you think about it, all the people that came from 587 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 12: your area, you walk outside, it's just it's renaissance. 588 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: It's niggas everywhere. It's renaissance to be Street and Mace 589 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: and a lot of history. They even go back further 590 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: than what I'm saying. Like like me, growing up, I 591 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: was immersed in Harlem, the underworld on all the way back. 592 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: My grandfather, you know, Rahim mo Law he passed away 593 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: from ninety six. He was typed with Bumpy Johnson, your 594 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: grand father john father, going from Bumpy to Nikki Bahds. 595 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: Me being around rich Pole like you know, like I 596 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: came from that, you know what I'm saying. So when 597 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: I look at Harlem through my lens, I see those 598 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: unofficial mayors and governors of the not the figure has 599 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: not the people that you know, you know, waved the 600 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: bander you know what I'm saying, or glorified the people 601 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 2: we see. The people that I saw was the people 602 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: that really made its shape. Yeah, and everything that was 603 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: intertwined with those generations was you know, the Renaissance, you know, 604 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 2: jazz music. You know, we had some of the most 605 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: prolific you know what I'm saying, activists, all kinds of 606 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: stuff came a hall. So in hallm not big, you 607 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Technically Harlem is like Hum fifty 608 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 2: fifth to Hunt tenth Street. Then you got Spanish Harlem 609 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 2: on the east side. But from Hum fifty fifth to 610 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: Hunt tenth Street. You talking about not even really forty blocks, 611 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: not counting like the avenues from r like you know 612 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, l Lenox Avenue, Fifth Avenue, whatever, going 613 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: away up to Broadway, whatever the case may be. But 614 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: it's a very we were individuals, know what I'm saying. 615 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 2: Like Brooklyn was known for rolling and clicks and stuff 616 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 2: like that. Brunon. But Harlem was like everybody sh everybody 617 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: is trying to be that man, right, you know what 618 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying. In they own special way, right you know. 619 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: And that's the characteristic that everybody had, whether they had 620 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: money or it didn't have money. You got some of 621 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: the most you know, flamboyant, you know, just you know, 622 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: illuminated figures that might not have nothing. You know what 623 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: I'm saying. When you look at the Harlem shake that 624 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 2: came from a dude named Cisco. We used to drink Cisco. 625 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Dudes just to get out, 626 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: I'll be a dollar, I'll be hit the shake. And 627 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 2: it's like the kids took it and it became a phenomenon. 628 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: But that was some uh, somebody who was a pillar 629 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: of our community. Mm. You know what I'm saying. Fly bums. Yeah, 630 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: absolutely check it out. But let me tell you something, 631 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 2: and let me tell you something. This is another Yeah, 632 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 2: this is another misconception of some of the younger generations. 633 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: Y'all came in and that's all you saw what what 634 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: we saw. Mama had it right, that's all you saw 635 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: where he was that was somebody who used to walk 636 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: around with suitcases handcuffed to his hand, or that was 637 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 2: somebody used to come around at the rose was you 638 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like the last we heard growing 639 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: up as a jail was true, isn't true? Like, yeah, 640 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: so I had two rolls, no question. Yeah y'all to 641 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 2: y'all know, I ain't say y'all, but your generation he 642 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: liing right, right, ship, Yeah, I come through him like yo, 643 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: shot man, Yeah, real for real, be easy. You know 644 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,479 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like he was once upon a time 645 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: one of them dudes. You know what I'm saying, And 646 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. It's like I can't I was. 647 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: I was. 648 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 2: I was functioning in my neighborhood when the crack epidemic 649 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: came through. You know what I'm saying, Because like my Moll's, 650 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: my pops, they came out of the seventies. That was 651 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 2: all heron. So when you look at every new extremity 652 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: or epidemic that comes, some people survived, some people don't. 653 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: A lot of people don't. It ain't never been this 654 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 2: many people smoke weed. Like when I was growing up, 655 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: it wasn't not weed smoking. Theybody weren't smoking no weed. 656 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. When I grew up, people 657 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: was publicly sniffing cocaine in the street and it was acceptable. 658 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't looked at as like you got an issue, 659 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 2: right because you're talking about something that was considered an 660 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 2: expensive high. That's so people dudes that was getting money 661 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: in the street smoking Wooler's, which was cracking weed. You 662 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. The dudes that were smoking it 663 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: had money, right, Yeah, they didn't know that Chang was 664 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 2: going to want to know it was gonna go from 665 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 2: a blood filled with crack to a you know what 666 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Yeah, so crack. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Well, 667 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 2: it was three base you get some more tomorrow, I 668 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 2: get some know what I'm saying. It's like you That's 669 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. That's why I said I grew up. 670 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: There's a credit certain level of That's how I was 671 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 2: back then, man, Like That's how I said, like Harlem, 672 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 2: you know, depending on what side of it you was on, 673 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 2: you know, could have been the greatest education you ever received, 674 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 2: what could have been the greatest detriment. You know, For me, 675 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 2: it was the greatest education, you know, just New York, 676 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 2: New York in general. You know what I'm saying, because 677 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 2: like most of my family from Richmond, Virginia, So when 678 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 2: I used to go down there, it was always like 679 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: a culture shop for me, because I mean one time 680 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 2: I was staying out there with my cousins, just to 681 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: give you an example, like and they just here come 682 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 2: the main and just everybody just disappeared. I'm like, I'm 683 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 2: still looking for the main. The police rolled up. So 684 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: I mean in New York, it was a different thing. 685 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: We ain't cared about. Were stunting, no police, police come through, 686 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 2: Like yeah, man, I get out the block. Man put 687 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: that out, Like man, y'all need always coming over here. 688 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: That's what you're taking our time? They said to man 689 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: when like seventeen different directions, Like yo, you know what 690 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it was different from how my family 691 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 2: that was in the South versus New York, right, you know. 692 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: And then like we got little Italy, you got Chinatown, 693 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 2: so like you you you ain't need a passport. We 694 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 2: was exposed of so much stuff. Yeah, you know, once 695 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: you cross hun tenth Street, Chocolate City, this is just 696 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 2: black you know, white people didn't come out way. They 697 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 2: ain't come nowhere near, you know what I'm saying. And 698 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: you had areas where whatever the predominated race was, they 699 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 2: had the upper hands. So like you got a Spanish 700 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: girl living Spanish Halem, you gotta be careful. You got 701 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: right there. You know me, I used to say, meet 702 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: me at the train station, right, saying I ain't want 703 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 2: to be that serious too. Yeah, ye can walk over that, nah, 704 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 2: I mean that's they that's they stops. Right. But then 705 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 2: you got neutral spots. Nobody nobody owned forty second Street, 706 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 2: Nobody owned thirty fourth Street. On twenty fifth Street was 707 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 2: our forty second street, right all that's that's the middle 708 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: of Halem. You know what I'm saying. Twenty fifth up 709 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 2: is uptown, twenty fifth down is downtown. But it's small, 710 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But we even got you know, 711 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: we got a central location that's neutral. Everybody could come 712 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 2: to Hunt twenty fifth Street and shop and do whatever. 713 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 2: Nobody own one hundred twenty fifth Street, you know what 714 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 2: I'm saying. But one block over twenty six twenty said, well, 715 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 2: you know, we got seen nick projects right there. It's 716 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: a whole different situation. You know what I'm saying. So 717 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. Like growing up and seeing those 718 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 2: transitions it had. It impacted me a lot because one, 719 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: you know, I grew up scared of dop fense m. 720 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Those fiends don't sell their 721 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 2: guns back, can sell everything, right, but the dopp fiends, 722 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 2: a lot of them used to be the killers from 723 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: the seventies. Hold on man and for me, yeah, break 724 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: that down. 725 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: We talked about the difference between dope things and crack, 726 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: and I was growing up. So the difference is, you said, 727 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: the dos those. 728 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 2: Fiends never sold their guns. So if they was using 729 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: them joints in the seventies, they still had them. And 730 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 2: what their addiction was considered was a necessity because they 731 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 2: get sick, right, and they'll come through and probably ass 732 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: for a single bag. Don't give it to him. He 733 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: might come back and you lose more than what you 734 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 2: could have gave. You know what I'm saying, Right, I 735 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 2: had friends they used to you know, and I never 736 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: was into it. So it's like, nah, right, they hide you. 737 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Back then, like you was, 738 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: it was that was an expensive joy ride. You get 739 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 2: caught somebody old den off of that stuff you finished. 740 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 2: But I do like, yo, such and such come through, 741 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: give him too, don't like, don't you know? It was 742 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: a certain level of respect, That's what I said. I 743 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 2: grew up knowing that these men and women worse who 744 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 2: were suffering from this transition, they were somebody before that. 745 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 2: He was the hit man before. Yeah, yeah, washing up 746 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: like everything right now. He messed up, but he still 747 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 2: got integrity, he still got honor, and you got that thing, 748 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You know the ones that 749 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 2: fell victim to crack, it's a different situation. Some of 750 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 2: them was even functioning still. You know, they just had 751 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 2: an addiction. 752 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: Someone still got their skills from whatever, like the mechanics. 753 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 10: And. 754 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 2: They won't do the meaning stuff for the grade themselves, 755 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And you got someone just 756 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 2: it was all out like whatever, like through the minutes. Yeah, 757 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 2: he had a pocket, you. 758 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 4: Like the something give him three, give him three? 759 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean? That was real. He walked, 760 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 2: he walked on set, he walked on. I don't get nothing, man, Yeah, man, 761 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 2: But you know, like I said, you know, you know, 762 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 2: for me vibe, you know it means a lot, you know, 763 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 2: Like I said, Yeah, when I look at like. 764 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: Real, it's the best hard to break down out of yea, 765 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: even with. 766 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: Even with like the music. See the music was an escape, 767 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 2: right you know. It's even we was gonna make it 768 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 2: to the league. We was gonna make it in the 769 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 2: entertainment business. If that don't work, we always got a 770 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 2: home in the street, right, you know. And people don't understand, 771 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 2: like when I look at this generation, look at how 772 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 2: many options they got, right, Like they last result, Yeah, 773 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 2: they last resort ain't the street, right, The last resorts 774 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 2: I could just send in front of the camera thirty 775 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 2: seconds at a time, make a fool of myself for 776 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,479 Speaker 2: make millions of dollars. That's the last resort. Our last 777 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 2: resort was the street. You mean that a young kid 778 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: could literally just set them up a camera, start a 779 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 2: little tutorial whatever is. It can be different, yo, you 780 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 2: can be different. I mean it looks to be a star, 781 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It's not like there's an 782 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 2: industry that determines who's hot and who's not anymore. You know, 783 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 2: you got all the access everything you need to excel 784 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 2: in any feel you know, And I came home like 785 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 2: a to tell and the COVID like are entrepreneurship. You know, 786 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 2: it's like almost i'ma be honest with you all. Y'all 787 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 2: was in prison, COVID. Everybody was in prison. I mean, 788 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 2: explain myself because it's the nigga and it looked just 789 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 2: like you. 790 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 6: I mean, they always say, I watch you, you did 791 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 6: my whole b damn. 792 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 2: But see the point is this, like when you're in prison, 793 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 2: you got minimal resource, minimal nutrition, right, But dudes is 794 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 2: looking like action figures and they finding ways to make 795 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 2: these work situation. You know what I'm saying, That ingenuity 796 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 2: is being you know, overlooked and warehouse. People don't know 797 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 2: that these men exist. You know what I'm saying, because 798 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 2: they're in present now. With COVID, y'all was subjected to 799 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 2: certain environments, certain conditions that people became created. You've seen 800 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 2: videos of people building gyms in their garage. It was crazy. 801 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 2: That's like being in prison. 802 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: I think people did all the ship that they was 803 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: gonna do, but they ain't never had time to do. 804 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 1: The longer that ship went on, people started building all 805 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: kinds of ship. That's what I'm saying, making little clubs 806 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: and gyms and shit. 807 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people knew that they 808 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 2: could until the survival aspect kicked in. Honestly, I want 809 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 2: them to have one more quarantine. 810 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 1: I do. 811 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 2: Give me, give me about more months of that ship. 812 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 2: That was six months quarantine. You just like. 813 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 3: I want to go to house, y'all going to the house, 814 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 3: shut it down, give it out there. 815 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 2: I don't want nobody out there, you know. Yeah, But 816 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 2: I mean it birthed a lot of entrepreneurs. Fact, you 817 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, nobody how mean people had the 818 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 2: same Pakistani sweatsuit connected people putting out their own clover 819 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 2: line crazy. You know what? My goodness with student. You 820 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, And that's what I'm saying is 821 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 2: like when those things make me hopeful, Right for this 822 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 2: generation if they unders focused more right, they understand it. 823 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 2: But you gotta focus more on this aspect and not 824 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 2: look for the lake. You know what it is to 825 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 2: those is we come from a generation because I'm glad 826 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 2: and I'm thankful that I got. 827 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 5: The ass ending, but it was like a loan, like 828 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 5: me jumping in the street because I wanted to in 829 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 5: my environment. 830 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 2: But the way my parents and all them they're they're elders, 831 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 2: so they come from that structure. 832 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 5: So, like you said, how you feel like they scared 833 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 5: of with craffing, So I understand why. 834 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 2: My mama was like, I don't want you. 835 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 4: Smo Weed cause that shit need to goddamn crack. 836 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 6: And fuck that you can't come back. 837 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 2: And but I had to tell her that I'm smart 838 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 2: enough to understand that. 839 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 6: I know that you've trained me to acknowledge that, but 840 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 6: I'm smost weed. But they crack, Yeah, nah that shit. 841 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 2: But it was like, you know what the sek for 842 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 2: wanting knowledge? We want to go get that. 843 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 5: The New day generation is whatever put in front of them. 844 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 5: They believe it, and the media gots to be real 845 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 5: because they said it. 846 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,320 Speaker 2: They don't understand that it is propaganda. They don't know. 847 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 6: You got to figure it out and want to through 848 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 6: that shit. 849 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 2: That's a bullshit. That headline is a distraction. They're like, 850 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 2: that shit real. We all know that. 851 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna go see my own headline 852 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 4: because that's a distraction. 853 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 2: You get your own information, your information too deep. You 854 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 2: know what, Jay Winning, You ain't played me, No, we 855 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 2: ain't even got man start. We got to actually start this. 856 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 2: Come on, man, it's like we. 857 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 1: Ain't got to restart, but we at least got to 858 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: catch the people up who watch it and almost been 859 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: going on for the last thirty seven minutes. 860 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 2: Come on, man, I counted, I kept up with that 861 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 2: was like the ship were right. We're right in the 862 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 2: wrapping it up here in a minute. But nah, man 863 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 2: had to reset the tone. Y'all was getting too headed 864 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 2: because we hit it on now man, because he can't stupid. 865 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: That's all we what's all we're doing this year on 866 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 1: this platform. It's just bringing real ghetto legends through here. 867 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: Kick out, and today we got a real. 868 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 7: One with it. 869 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 2: We got a real leg all the way from Harlem. 870 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 2: Come on now. I had a hell of a run 871 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 2: all the music industry. I ain't even just gonna say 872 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 2: what it's in the whole industry life. 873 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: They had twenty two different lives still running, still running, right, 874 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: cool brother, none of. 875 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: The other than loom. 876 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:24,959 Speaker 1: Yes, we were hip hop his we love rap music, 877 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: the culture, all of that. I argue people all the 878 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: time that one of the best rap names in the 879 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: whole group, whole rap industry is Blinky Blink. 880 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 2: You was in a group of the world. Look Blink, 881 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 2: that's my man. Blake was a high school together. Blake 882 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 2: got that name from Blinking, so he actually blink blink at. 883 00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 2: But Blink came from a cool called BBO Best Ballers Out. 884 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. They was out of you know, 885 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 2: like it was different factions in Harlem. But we caught 886 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 2: the rap bug because you know, historically the only real 887 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 2: Harlem rapper that made it was Curtis Blow. 888 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 1: D. 889 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Curtis Blow was like you know, 890 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 2: they caught him, Curtis Blow you know what I'm saying. 891 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 2: There wasn't no pause after that. You know what I'm saying. 892 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That D was from off 893 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 2: the hill, like sugar Hill. So we were known for 894 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 2: like having boucy b you know, love ballastar. We got DJ, 895 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And we were the promotional 896 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 2: vehicle for hip hop when the dudes showed up in 897 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 2: the Firs and all of that, the DA and then 898 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 2: it was the Harlem dudes, you know what I'm saying. 899 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 2: But the classical a day shell Toe that was Queens. 900 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 2: That was the breakdown b boys. You know what I'm saying. 901 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 2: That was something that was rooted in the Bronx, No Queens, 902 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,760 Speaker 2: Brooklyn and stuff like that. But when it came to Harlem, 903 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 2: we was about money. So we was the aviance around 904 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 2: all of this. When we came through. You knew a 905 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 2: Harlem dude was in the building, you know what I'm saying. 906 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 2: Because our you know, not for style. You know what 907 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 2: I'm saying, y'all come let you down. 908 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,359 Speaker 1: Well, y'all known for fashion and y'all known forget money. 909 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: And this is what I've always heard just from you 910 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that you you said you 911 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: being came from that. They go back and you just 912 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: show how far that. 913 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 2: Because we had we had all the you know what 914 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like when you think about horse betting and 915 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 2: the numbers game, this was a track betting, you know 916 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. They was just coordinating with the action 917 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,240 Speaker 2: horse races. Those numbers that came in was the numbers 918 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 2: that people in the street was playing like hustling. 919 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 1: It be the time, like yeah something that the horse 920 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: came in. 921 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that call, that call comes from the track 922 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 2: to the number runners in Harlem wasn't no FaceTime, no 923 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 2: quick text, no none of this. So they literally created 924 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 2: a whole industry for something that was legalized, and they 925 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 2: made an illegal business. Like even for myself, Like I'm 926 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 2: talking about eight years old, I have about five six 927 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 2: different hustles, you know what I'm saying. Like I packed 928 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 2: bags in the supermarket, right, I used to actually have 929 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 2: three different registers. I'll just take fiends off the street 930 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 2: and put them in different lanes and make sure my 931 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 2: tip box, Like yo, don't let keep on my tip 932 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 2: box by you. He don't get none of that. You know, 933 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:04,439 Speaker 2: he already owned money for somebody here packing pay off something, right, yeah, 934 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 2: backing and watching him. You know I'm packing. Yeah, I'm 935 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 2: packing the bags and watching him. And when the supermarket clothes. 936 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,720 Speaker 2: You know, we turned the self service pump into full service. 937 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 2: I was pumping gas, getting tipsy, had a car wash 938 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 2: AA getty gas station across the street. It's just set 939 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 2: up out there because you go through the machine. But 940 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 2: I did detailing, you know what I'm saying. I'm a 941 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 2: little armor role, you know what I'm saying. I'm doing 942 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,919 Speaker 2: tires and all. I used to go across the street 943 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 2: to the Bronx and buy my ear fresh and it's 944 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 2: for fifty cents selling for a dollar. Hauler had a 945 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 2: paper right on Sunday, was bagging up coke for my 946 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 2: cousins like I was a kid, and it starting white 947 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 2: boys in school, so all of them you do that 948 00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 2: in there with the kids, you know, limit at all 949 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 2: that type of stuff like that. That that wasn't that 950 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 2: didn't qualify whop. Yeah, that didn't qualify for a Harlem hustle. 951 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,279 Speaker 2: That's polio told. I had a book back for the 952 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,439 Speaker 2: g I Joe's and Transformers lights and still from white 953 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 2: boys and selling at the train station to all the 954 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 2: black You know what I'm saying. I never was a 955 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,800 Speaker 2: people were in my neighborhood. I ain't. Never really was 956 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 2: into no robbing, no black people. You know what I'm saying. 957 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,840 Speaker 2: I never That's not to say it's cool to rob 958 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 2: white people. I'm just saying, at that time, somebody have 959 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 2: to see them. You gonna rob him and you're gonna 960 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 2: have to see them. But that wasn't you know. Yeah, 961 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 962 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 6: We heard it with you. 963 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 2: I don't even lie you. I remember the first time 964 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 2: that the whole idea of extortion came to mind. It 965 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:56,320 Speaker 2: was a white boy. He I was sleeping class, that 966 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 2: might be he bumped me. I don't care who you are. 967 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 2: You met be tough somebody your sleep. You might not 968 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 2: can't fight, you might not need to fight, but you're 969 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 2: willing to fight. You know what I'm saying. I'm talking 970 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 2: about me. That's my forte. So I told him, like, yo, 971 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 2: I just from to beat you up and just the 972 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 2: you know, the tremors. But I'm more schedule. I'm watching 973 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 2: the clock. You're watching the cloud. Were watching clock for 974 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 2: two different reasons. You're trying to figure out there's only 975 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 2: one door to go out, you know what I'm saying, 976 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 2: no question, and I might I might have to go 977 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 2: to the bathroom right before class, you know what I'm saying. 978 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 2: So I remember getting close to three o'clock. He offered 979 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 2: me five hours, and light bulb just went off, like 980 00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,359 Speaker 2: if that was easy? You know what? More? All bring 981 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 2: me ten? All right, And it just kept snowbolling, snowbolling 982 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. It was an Alabanian kid. I never 983 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 2: forget his name. You know, I ain't put because I 984 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 2: don't know what his life turned out to be. If 985 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 2: I might out, this is get you know what I'm saying. 986 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 2: Just for the record, this ain't me glorified. It's like 987 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 2: sometimes I remember this one and stuff just to increase 988 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 2: the gratitude of when I met in my life from now. 989 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 2: But as a kid, this was Harlem. This is like, 990 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 2: this was New York. In general, I would just say 991 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 2: that we was exclusive, but for a Harlem kid, it 992 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 2: was always how you get to that dollar? 993 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 4: And also at a time when because I don't think 994 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 4: anybody after two thousand understanding the generation when. 995 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 2: People was outside yeah, oh yeah, in the house, she 996 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 2: is you're missing if you're in the house, listen out 997 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,919 Speaker 2: of New York different than me. You know, so many 998 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 2: people young ship. Like even when I was gonna visit 999 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 2: New York, I'd be like, yo, who is this little 1000 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 2: nigga riding the trade Yeah with his little brother. How 1001 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 2: is this nigga got a baby with him? Yeah? And 1002 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 2: they going in the store ordering ship And I'm. 1003 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,919 Speaker 6: Like, everything that's outside, like you have to go outside. 1004 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 2: And on the do something. Second grade, right fourth grade, 1005 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 2: I was going to school all the way on ninety 1006 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 2: second Street. I don't know if you've seen my interview 1007 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 2: with Tip. Tip ended up going to the school I 1008 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 2: used to go to a Harlem years after his father. Yeah, 1009 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 2: because right, you know what I'm saying. I didn't really 1010 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 2: know that I know Tip for a long time. But 1011 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 2: in the interviewer came out. He started saying a lot 1012 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 2: of stuff, and I was like, how you know, mom, 1013 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 2: you know all that? And then I dawned on me. 1014 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 2: I said, Yo, we had an elementary school reunion. That's 1015 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 2: how bad he was in the high school reunion. We 1016 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 2: had an elementary school reunion. I swear a bull lah. 1017 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,479 Speaker 2: Like everybody it was there was instrumental in some type 1018 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 2: of calm foolery that exceeded our ages, right, you know 1019 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like a lot of them didn't make it. 1020 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 2: Little dude named Edgar, he might have been about every 1021 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 2: bit of ten eleven years old. One of the biggest 1022 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 2: drug dealers in that area. You know what I'm saying, 1023 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the biggest he was. He was a kid. Yeah. Now, 1024 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if he heard it from his pops 1025 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 2: or however it was connected, but he was that duty. 1026 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 2: He died in the street like anybody that got murdered. 1027 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 2: Yng damn. You know my man Melvin, he was in 1028 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 2: the Big Apple Circus. He had age, jumped out of 1029 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 2: the window, killed hisself. Like we be kids though, And 1030 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 2: I'm way downtown. I'm not even in Harlem. I'm downtown 1031 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 2: going to school by myself, getting on the train, you 1032 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like like you said, we was 1033 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 2: bred like that. You know what I'm saying. So hustle. 1034 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if this generation understands the difference from 1035 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 2: the grit that comes with how we had the hustle 1036 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 2: versus all the things that's accessible for a kid to 1037 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 2: hustle today. There's a lot of access. There's a lot 1038 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 2: of things that through most of the lifting for you. 1039 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: You know. 1040 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 2: And that's a beautiful thing, you know what I'm saying. 1041 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 2: And like I said, like I was saying earlier, I 1042 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 2: would just hope that they paid more attention and focus 1043 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 2: more on those things because people endure it a lot 1044 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 2: for that to be accessible to this general. 1045 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 4: Just the thing when I come from the generation that 1046 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 4: I know and watch and hear the conversations of Damn, nigga, 1047 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 4: did that like you said, did j When you're saying that, 1048 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 4: I know. 1049 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 2: For a fact the grit. 1050 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 4: We never be little to crackhead, because all them niggas 1051 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 4: was eight athletes, yea. 1052 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 2: Not only that he did. Nigga that know everything, you 1053 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 2: disrespect him, he may be the nigga that do it. 1054 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying. So it's like I understand that. 1055 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 4: So the new generation, when I say it's too much 1056 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 4: access where they can't decipher what's real and what ain't nothing, 1057 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 4: we have. 1058 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 2: To experience it. Know, they have to be You have 1059 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 2: to be nurtured to an extent to, like you said, 1060 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 2: disseminate what's being fed to you right through social media 1061 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 2: and mass media, whatever the case may be. Right, But 1062 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 2: the education that we received growing up came from mentor 1063 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 2: shit right, Somebody put you under their deodorant, you know 1064 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It showed you the game game right, 1065 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But also you had those 1066 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 2: who showed you enough to benefit them, you know. And 1067 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 2: I grew up watching a lot of dudes who fell 1068 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 2: victim of that and never grew, never evolved, never knew 1069 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 2: anything other than subjecting themselves to what they was taught 1070 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 2: by somebody who was misleading. You know, Cause I believe 1071 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 2: that there's two types of leaders in this world. You know, 1072 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 2: those that leading those that mislead. Right, you're still a leader, right, 1073 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 2: So whether you leading up planing piety and righteousness or 1074 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 2: something that's upright, then that would be more of a 1075 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 2: praiseworthy leader. But if you lead it somebody towards gradual destruction, 1076 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, You're gonna be held accountable 1077 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 2: for your flock facts, you know what I'm saying. So 1078 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 2: it's just like I said, you know, growth is something 1079 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 2: that's important for everybody, cause the remain stagnated is you know, 1080 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 2: there's no growth in that, right, you know, there's no 1081 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 2: evolution in it. Right, you become a one trick pointy. 1082 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 2: You only got one you know, you only got one thing, 1083 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 2: you know, And like I said, just coming from the 1084 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 2: generation I came from, I wasn't changing for nothing, you 1085 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I wasn't changing for nothing. And 1086 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that's missing in this generation 1087 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 2: from you know, the family aspect. I know we hit 1088 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 2: all the time to the point where it might be 1089 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 2: starting to sound cliche, but the reality of it is 1090 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 2: that fatherless homes. You know what I'm saying, or some 1091 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 2: male figure period. You know what I'm saying, that's gonna 1092 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 2: nurture and copetivate you to be a man that's missing, 1093 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I just came from 1094 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 2: a place it was a lot of solid dudes being 1095 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 2: warehouse dudes that wanted to do the do the right thing. 1096 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 2: Dudes that thought they were doing the right thing cause 1097 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 2: they had the right intentions even though the actions didn't 1098 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 2: line up. But they might not never get a chance. 1099 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 2: They got twenty thirty years, some got life sentences. The 1100 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 2: kids is growing up out here trying, you know, being 1101 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 2: raised by the mother you know, and her four or 1102 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 2: five different boyfriends, all kinds of trauma that you know 1103 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And the sad part about our culture, 1104 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 2: and it's something that we definitely gotta try to fix 1105 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 2: it is we gotta stop normalizing stuff that's not normal, right, 1106 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, just because it become repetitive 1107 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 2: in our culture. Anybody that step outside of it and 1108 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 2: look at it, you'll see this is not normal, right, 1109 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. This tradition that we keep 1110 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 2: holding on to is not normal. Yeah, you know what 1111 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm saying, we only you know, contributed to our own demands. 1112 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 2: We do sensitizing it exactly. You know what I'm saying. 1113 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 2: So you know I love my people, you know I 1114 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 2: do love The culture done a lot for me, you 1115 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But where all evolved to is 1116 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 2: where I would wanna see my culture default Cause we 1117 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 2: look at I mean like it's crazy. Like you know, 1118 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 2: we talk about people who fell victim to you know, 1119 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,320 Speaker 2: drug abuse and all the things cause of all the transitions. 1120 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 2: But if you think about let's say, for example, most 1121 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 2: of you know legal immigrants that come to the country 1122 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 2: no matter where they come from. But let's say in 1123 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 2: particularly in New Mexican's alright, we got too good to 1124 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,440 Speaker 2: cut grass, right, They was out there cutting that grass. 1125 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 2: That turned into landscaping businesses all over the United States. 1126 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,160 Speaker 2: They sitting over their home depot by the jumping anybody 1127 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,440 Speaker 2: pick up to go do some construction. That turned into 1128 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 2: construction companies. You know what I'm saying, we got too 1129 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 2: good for these things. We got two boonshies, so they say, 1130 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 2: and it ain't got a part to pissing. Well one 1131 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 2: do to throw it out. But these type of gigs 1132 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 2: is not suitable for us anymore, cause our incessors did it. 1133 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 2: My grandfather did that for forty years. But he sustained 1134 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 2: you with that right, you know, and if need be, 1135 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,160 Speaker 2: you gotta do the same for you and yours. You 1136 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 2: gotta go do it right, yea. You know what I'm saying, 1137 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 2: because gambling with your freedom only contributes to the repetitive 1138 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 2: cycle of recidivism, people going to prison and come back. 1139 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, all kinds of detriments. So 1140 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 2: you know, I just you know, I just wanted to 1141 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,920 Speaker 2: tell y'all cause I I I always try to establish 1142 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 2: giving people the flowers for you know. You know, I 1143 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 2: love an admire what y'all do for the culture. I 1144 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 2: appreciate it, you know what I'm saying, because I came 1145 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 2: home to you know, the whole podcast. You know, I 1146 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 2: don't know why would you call it, but it's a 1147 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 2: lot of podcasts, you know what I'm saying. But everybody 1148 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 2: don't carry it the same right, And I'm not here 1149 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 2: to pass any judgment or anybody. 1150 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 1: You know. 1151 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 2: If if it's for the money, get your money, you 1152 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:07,960 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. If it's for the culture, then 1153 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 2: stand on that. You know what I'm saying, don't use 1154 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 2: the culture. You know what I'm saying under the guys 1155 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 2: that you're for the culture, but you're really for the money, 1156 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 2: you know, And what I think that y'all? Do you 1157 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 2: know genuinely? I know it's for the culture. 1158 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: That means a lot because I think that's just who 1159 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 1: we are individually, you know, and it come together because 1160 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways you could go to get 1161 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 1: Like you said, you can do it for the money, right, 1162 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 1: but it's gonna come though. 1163 01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 2: How money gonna come. That's the good thing. Like I 1164 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:05,160 Speaker 2: was bred to understand that money. The hustle breeds money. 1165 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 2: You just got a hustle, you know what I'm saying. 1166 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,480 Speaker 2: It's like that's not a bad thing. That's not something 1167 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 2: that you know what I'm saying. It should be a turnoff. 1168 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 2: You tell a kid now like you know what I'm saying. 1169 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,640 Speaker 2: You know, if you're standing in front of you know, 1170 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,280 Speaker 2: quick trips, sell these oranges from me, man, I come 1171 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,920 Speaker 2: back in like five hours. Give you you know what 1172 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 2: I'm saying, x y Z what you're talking about, y'all? 1173 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Who I look like orange? Man, 1174 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 2: you are Look and the whole concept of the incentive 1175 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:47,519 Speaker 2: just left. They mind the incentive was one thing you 1176 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 2: supposed to get for doing this. You know what I'm saying. 1177 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 2: But Orange, that's it right right, you're worried about what 1178 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,759 Speaker 2: is what you gotta do? You word from your whole sentence. 1179 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 2: Just they go straight to the end of the rewards rewards. 1180 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 2: Who you're talking to too much? Come on here, that's crazy, 1181 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Then they want something up front. 1182 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:19,479 Speaker 2: Facts even in the slam they teach you right that 1183 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,719 Speaker 2: you pay a man before the sweat on his brow dry. 1184 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 2: That mean the work is first, but you're paying before 1185 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 2: the soon as I hold up, I got you. You 1186 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 2: know this is why you know you was gonna do it. 1187 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 2: That thing. 1188 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 6: I'm saying if you work onto Fronda, yeah, I said, yeah, 1189 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:48,559 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. 1190 01:09:49,280 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 2: Don't work this sweat. You keep that sweat, so pour 1191 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,720 Speaker 2: back when the man right. Thing, but before I leave. 1192 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 2: You know, that's real. That's real though. 1193 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 5: If you like that, No, no cap evolution, man, But 1194 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,639 Speaker 5: we got to do that as a culture. I think 1195 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 5: I think we once we stop worrying about what the 1196 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,560 Speaker 5: next man is doing and can be putting limitations on 1197 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 5: people of skin color to be like, you. 1198 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,600 Speaker 1: Don't own the motherfucker blueprint what it looks like to 1199 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:41,240 Speaker 1: be successful for me, nigga, and it's like what the white. 1200 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 2: Man do or the other ethnicity do. What'll think it is? Now, 1201 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this. 1202 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 4: Man, Niggas just don't like seeing niggas winning. 1203 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 2: Man For us, it's really been a mental and physical 1204 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,879 Speaker 2: job done to us. We carry a lot of trauma, 1205 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 2: a lot of trauma, and it's became normal. You know 1206 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Casts in the streets looking forward, the 1207 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 2: I got ten in me, you know what I'm saying. 1208 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 2: They hustling knowing that I could do ten. I'm prepared 1209 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 2: to get y'all tent and this ride, you know, this 1210 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 2: joy riders over and y'all catch me something we're slipping 1211 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 2: or whatever case may be. I got ten. That's crazy, right, 1212 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 2: that's crazy, you ready? Yeah? 1213 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 10: Right? 1214 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 2: Stupid, that's crazy, right. You know what I'm saying. And 1215 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:40,839 Speaker 2: I'm not saying this to glorify anything. Lost my witness, 1216 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 2: but it took me to be thirty six years old 1217 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:49,400 Speaker 2: to go to prison when I left everything alone two 1218 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,519 Speaker 2: thousand and eight when I became Muslim. Was the last 1219 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 2: day I smoked, the last day I drank, the last 1220 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,280 Speaker 2: day I listened to music. When I say that, I 1221 01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 2: mean I don't press play, you know what I'm saying. 1222 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,839 Speaker 2: So with that being said, I abstained from everything because 1223 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 2: that's just always been my nature's all or nothing. I 1224 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 2: don't believe in straddling. I believe boys is confused. Men 1225 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,400 Speaker 2: make decisions, Men stand on decisions, even if it's against 'em. Yeah, 1226 01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 2: we have to, you know, we have to live by 1227 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,800 Speaker 2: the truth, even if the truth is not my friend. 1228 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 2: At this moment, it's against me, but I'm still gonna 1229 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 2: stand it cause it's the truth. Right. So you know, 1230 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 2: my conspiracy was really revolved around ghost dope, which is 1231 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 2: dope that don't exist and hearsay, yeah, you know what 1232 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 2: I mean, And that's yeah and it and it came 1233 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 2: from a simple introduction. DC was good, Well, I got 1234 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 2: each other number, y'all straight, Uh cool? But because of 1235 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 2: my prior criminal history and these dudes not wanting to 1236 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:55,599 Speaker 2: stand on well for choices, you know, cause to start 1237 01:12:55,640 --> 01:13:01,599 Speaker 2: with that principal follow but we in the game of choices, right, 1238 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So but that being said, 1239 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:13,479 Speaker 2: they threw me into their conspiracy, like what my prior 1240 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,080 Speaker 2: is in it? And in front of a jewelry, it 1241 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,600 Speaker 2: appears there's no way you can't say that, this is 1242 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 2: not my career, you know what I'm saying, right, So 1243 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 2: the deck was deck was stacked. 1244 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,559 Speaker 1: So I got another podcast I do too, the War 1245 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,479 Speaker 1: on Drugs, and I just just for people too because 1246 01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 1: we no it's not on it, but it's on another 1247 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 1: platform they support it. 1248 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 2: But the ghost dough. 1249 01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically they entered into agreement with the authorities 1250 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 1: or whatever, right these people, and they implicated. 1251 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 2: You in the shit or whatever. 1252 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, even though they never found no shit, never never 1253 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 1: had no video footage, no shit. But because they entered 1254 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 1: into this deal with the government and they. 1255 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 2: Say, yeah, we sold five hundred keys. 1256 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 1: Cause and they but that's because these people didn't stand 1257 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,000 Speaker 1: on they ship and went in a deal and said, yeah, 1258 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:05,719 Speaker 1: we got caught. 1259 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,439 Speaker 2: But he did it to him. They even put it, 1260 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:16,880 Speaker 2: like you said, a fake timeline of when start since 1261 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,920 Speaker 2: that's where in two thousand and seven. Yeah, yeah, and 1262 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 2: and and that's what I'm saying. At the time, I 1263 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,280 Speaker 2: was living in Egypt, Damn, I was living in Egypt. 1264 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:28,360 Speaker 2: I was studying l Eliza you know, university out there. 1265 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 2: I was, you know, learning how to read, write, speak, 1266 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,759 Speaker 2: every big note. I was. I was immersed in my religion, 1267 01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I was giving talks 1268 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,519 Speaker 2: around the world to the youth. And I was on 1269 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,160 Speaker 2: my way to go to I had just left Saudi Arabia. 1270 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,600 Speaker 2: I just made Hawjes, came back to Egypt, stopped to 1271 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 2: get my family to Gifts, and I jumped on the 1272 01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,719 Speaker 2: plane to go to Belgium and speak at the university. 1273 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 2: And Inner Pole grabbed me and told me I had 1274 01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,640 Speaker 2: an indictment in the Eastern District in North Carolina and 1275 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,840 Speaker 2: the city of Durham, and I've never been there, you 1276 01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Damn passport got missing. So the 1277 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,439 Speaker 2: timeline that you just talking about, I can't even argue 1278 01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 2: that I don't have tangible evidence no more to say 1279 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 2: where I was when I when I was dead. Was 1280 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,599 Speaker 2: the passport itself was my best That was my best defense. 1281 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:13,960 Speaker 2: So it was just a lot of you know, details 1282 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 2: that you know. Because I'm working on the six part 1283 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,800 Speaker 2: doc series my whole life, I'm gonna break down a 1284 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 2: lot of stuff. But the thing is, you know, I'm 1285 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 2: thirty six years old at the time, far a move 1286 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:34,120 Speaker 2: from everything. You made that decision, choice, That's what I said. 1287 01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm a firm believer of a man making a choice 1288 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 2: and standing on it, because that's the principle. It's not 1289 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 2: about the street code street at this It's about man time. 1290 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You made that choice, made 1291 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,759 Speaker 2: that choice. You got to stand on your You can't 1292 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 2: make your choice. Mind, I didn't choose what you chose, 1293 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 2: so you can't subject me to your choice. That's just real. 1294 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,960 Speaker 2: I ain't got nothing to do like. That's the That's 1295 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:06,920 Speaker 2: the problem with I think this generation they try to 1296 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:14,200 Speaker 2: incorporate everything with the street, when quite frankly, I don't 1297 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:18,519 Speaker 2: even think they understand the street, not the streets. I know, 1298 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,840 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I say that much the 1299 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,960 Speaker 2: streets that exist today, I can't even tell you what 1300 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 2: that is. You know what I'm saying, I really don't 1301 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,760 Speaker 2: know what that is. You know what I'm saying to 1302 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:38,960 Speaker 2: water My point was that, you know, it's so easy 1303 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:47,000 Speaker 2: for these people to damage young black lives, black and 1304 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,560 Speaker 2: brown lives. I don't want to leave out you know, 1305 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:54,040 Speaker 2: brown people as well, because they suffering as well. But 1306 01:16:54,160 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, that experience really helped me grow 1307 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,240 Speaker 2: because I know, on the outside looking at it was 1308 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:09,200 Speaker 2: just like I can imagine, like damn man Loon, Probably 1309 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,679 Speaker 2: a lot of people leave it like man and Man Puffy, 1310 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,000 Speaker 2: don't take care, nobody loan out here, selling have a 1311 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:16,400 Speaker 2: long way out. And you know what I'm saying, I'm 1312 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 2: pretty sure up here, I'm a more certain Yeah, yeah, 1313 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 2: cause I mean, you know, I anticipate that, you know 1314 01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,880 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because anybody that's you know, working under 1315 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,720 Speaker 2: I didn't wanna say it shadow, but any major you know, 1316 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:41,519 Speaker 2: mobile figure, you coming up under, you gotta work your 1317 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,880 Speaker 2: way out of that. From underneath that umbrother, that's where 1318 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,240 Speaker 2: your remain you know what I'm saying. As long as 1319 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,120 Speaker 2: that unbrother is standing, that's where you'll remain under it. 1320 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,080 Speaker 2: You gotta work your way out of it, you know 1321 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,560 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So you know, I'm pretty sure it 1322 01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,120 Speaker 2: was a whole bunch of ways it was perceived, But 1323 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,160 Speaker 2: that was the real reality is that man and you 1324 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,360 Speaker 2: were thirty six at the time I got to go 1325 01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,680 Speaker 2: to prison. Yes, the point I'm trying to make is 1326 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 2: when I was, you know, in the street. I came 1327 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,280 Speaker 2: from a generation that wanted to get away. We wanted 1328 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,559 Speaker 2: to get away. We wasn't trying to glorify getting caught. 1329 01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 2: We weren't trying to like you know what I'm saying. 1330 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,720 Speaker 2: We won't trying to get caught. You know what I mean. 1331 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,600 Speaker 2: Even when I used to be out of town. You know, 1332 01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,360 Speaker 2: we used to be telling people we was like exchange students. 1333 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,640 Speaker 2: We bought basketball team like, we was coming up with 1334 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,720 Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff, even in the Harlem. You know, 1335 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 2: you tell a girl I do construction. You know what 1336 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,519 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Because once your father find out who I 1337 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,240 Speaker 2: am and what I'm doing, his love affairs over you 1338 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So it was em better than 1339 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:53,680 Speaker 2: us to try to go through painstaking efforts to not 1340 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 2: let that define who we really want to be in life. 1341 01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 2: We really want to be somebody. And I think even 1342 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 2: in my generation and the music inness, we tried to 1343 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 2: show that nobody used to like you seen Snooper Pharrella, Brazil, 1344 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,040 Speaker 2: Yuh take a passport to get there? Anybody could drive 1345 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,679 Speaker 2: a myrtle beach. We was trying to show you waterfall yachts. 1346 01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,760 Speaker 2: We was trying to show you what they say, you know, 1347 01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 2: black excellence RD you know, and it was nothing wrong 1348 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,280 Speaker 2: with that, cause I think it's a generation that people 1349 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,560 Speaker 2: who you know, absorbed that and learn from that and 1350 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:31,120 Speaker 2: and and strive to achieve that. So I ain't gonna 1351 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,680 Speaker 2: lie when I'm in a barber shop from time I 1352 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 2: catch you oneo, some of the stuff that you know 1353 01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,960 Speaker 2: out on the radio run and I'll be baffled. She 1354 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,000 Speaker 2: trashed baffled. I mean like even when I was in prison, 1355 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 2: you know, the barber shop, the same dude got radio 1356 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,479 Speaker 2: even made some fakes speakers out of the South and 1357 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,240 Speaker 2: you got the joint bang and all that like. And 1358 01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,639 Speaker 2: I used to be churity and who that run? Well 1359 01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,880 Speaker 2: that's a little such and such. You know, next time 1360 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,360 Speaker 2: I'm in a barber shop, who that right? Oh, now 1361 01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 2: that's a little it's a different dude. And then after 1362 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,000 Speaker 2: a while, I was like many lives, and it was 1363 01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 2: I was just confused. I was like, like, what's going on? 1364 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,080 Speaker 2: You know, even like in my my, my, you know, 1365 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,840 Speaker 2: my block, not to get to in depth, but we 1366 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,880 Speaker 2: figured out how to watch everything y'all was watching. I'm 1367 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,000 Speaker 2: gonna say that easy. You know what I'm saying. I 1368 01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:17,720 Speaker 2: used to go work out. I used to let the 1369 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 2: young boys you know, on a joint and they do 1370 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,320 Speaker 2: them because you know, we're just trying to be fair. 1371 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,439 Speaker 2: Everybody just breaking up. Everybody bed six months ago about 1372 01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,800 Speaker 2: we don't watch saw a Game of Thrones, like just 1373 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 2: breaking the body like whatever. You know what I'm saying. 1374 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,240 Speaker 2: You're calling your kids, Yeah, you're calling kids talking about 1375 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah you've seen Black Panthers. Yeah, what was it? It 1376 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,559 Speaker 2: was dope? Remember the scene your kids in the fron. 1377 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:46,560 Speaker 1: Know. 1378 01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,479 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So this was with you know, 1379 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,439 Speaker 2: it was with me. My bid. My bid was I 1380 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 2: wasn't betting like end of the world, like nah, I 1381 01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 2: still get to study, still get to do some things, 1382 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 2: have a little So what I was saying was I 1383 01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 2: used to come in from working out and the kids 1384 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,680 Speaker 2: was watching like World Star and all that. So you know, 1385 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 2: you need headphones to hear the TV. TV ain't like 1386 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,240 Speaker 2: blasting like that. You gotta have your headphones, and you know, 1387 01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,280 Speaker 2: go to the radio station where the TV is playing. 1388 01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,680 Speaker 2: Act like yo, why is it's like seventeen kids with 1389 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,920 Speaker 2: no shirt on with a salt rifle was standing in 1390 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,080 Speaker 2: front of a trap house with a raif like. The 1391 01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,800 Speaker 2: messaging was just confusing. I didn't have to listen. I 1392 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 2: didn't put my headphones to listen to what. I didn't care. 1393 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,479 Speaker 2: I was just looking at the messaging because I know 1394 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,040 Speaker 2: what we was trying to show you. You ain't have 1395 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 2: to you know, you ain't got to. You gotta hear 1396 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,800 Speaker 2: the words to beautiful. Like when you look at bro, 1397 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,560 Speaker 2: you just ste it. You see a bunch, that's that's it, 1398 01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 2: that's what you know what I'm saying, I'm looking at 1399 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:50,520 Speaker 2: the messaging and I'm confused. I'm like, Yo, they auditioned 1400 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,360 Speaker 2: it for prison, you know what I mean? What's the 1401 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,439 Speaker 2: likelihood they zoomed in on the several number on one 1402 01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,880 Speaker 2: of them that it didn't happen a lot of time? 1403 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying, Like I'm this, I'm thinking 1404 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,840 Speaker 2: like this in prison, I'm trying to go home, you 1405 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,479 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. They try to come in and 1406 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,679 Speaker 2: it's like, why you wanna be in a place where 1407 01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,439 Speaker 2: it's nothing but men? That's fucking good? You understand, Yeah, 1408 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,360 Speaker 2: Cause I'm looking at you got all the means to 1409 01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,200 Speaker 2: enjoy everything else, but you wanna be in here with men. 1410 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:28,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, glorifying something that really don't 1411 01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,840 Speaker 2: suit you. Cause when I grew up and you had 1412 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,800 Speaker 2: Feds in your life, you were doing something, know what 1413 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,400 Speaker 2: I'm saying. For the Fed to look at you in 1414 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:41,120 Speaker 2: the eighties nineties something, you had to be doing something. 1415 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. What they've done is you utilize, 1416 01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:52,120 Speaker 2: you know, federal authority to give a young kid a 1417 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:56,840 Speaker 2: kingpin charge that never had ten thousand dollars in one setting. 1418 01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:57,599 Speaker 2: Nigga's crazy. 1419 01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:57,840 Speaker 6: Ruh. 1420 01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,360 Speaker 2: Niggas is crazy, man, Niggas is fucking insane. I'm talking 1421 01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:06,800 Speaker 2: about all this in the Jordan box. His money is 1422 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:20,760 Speaker 2: gone to Joy, all his stuff. You know, he got shoes, Yeah, 1423 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,519 Speaker 2: but he got a leadership role, you know what I'm saying. 1424 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:29,160 Speaker 2: And then he's in the prison system glorifying that here. Yeah, 1425 01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 2: it got me thirty years is not a minute, thirty minutes. 1426 01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,160 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie, man, I ain't gonna lie. Like 1427 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 2: I mean, I can go on and on, but it's 1428 01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:45,480 Speaker 2: like I experienced some things that made me so fearful 1429 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:49,639 Speaker 2: for this generation. The ignorance. You know what I'm saying, 1430 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,479 Speaker 2: the level of ignorance in the midst of dealing with 1431 01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,320 Speaker 2: something that could be a detriment for your entire life. 1432 01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,920 Speaker 2: I didn't come from that. I don't even know how 1433 01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,080 Speaker 2: identify with that. I don't see nothing fly about it 1434 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:07,280 Speaker 2: like that. It's suicidal. Now, then you was in there, Yeah, 1435 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:12,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm hanging with dudes like I had one 1436 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 2: of my but like, no, I'm went the Musclims most 1437 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,720 Speaker 2: now anybody know, anybody did tell me, No, I was 1438 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 2: always in some position of leadership when it came to 1439 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,320 Speaker 2: the Muscims, whether I was a man, whether I was 1440 01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,840 Speaker 2: a sharif like head of the security for the musclim whatever, 1441 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:31,280 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I was always dealing 1442 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:36,000 Speaker 2: with the politics of those who understood, we need this 1443 01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:40,120 Speaker 2: to govern ourselves, so this joint don't go up in flames, 1444 01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. The young generation coming in, 1445 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:45,679 Speaker 2: they don't get this stuff, you know what I'm saying. 1446 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,599 Speaker 2: And every now and then got an old dude telling 1447 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:52,120 Speaker 2: them like, look, hey, let's shit showy real, I done 1448 01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,680 Speaker 2: did your time twice? Try to go home, you know 1449 01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,560 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like you know you're elders trying to 1450 01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,200 Speaker 2: school these young boys. So I mean once I was 1451 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,680 Speaker 2: in before I went if I went, uh, before I 1452 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,680 Speaker 2: got my sentence. I was in a county jail one time. 1453 01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 2: I overhear these two young kids. You know what I'm saying. 1454 01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,559 Speaker 2: They get lawyer visits. They both go see their lawyers. 1455 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,360 Speaker 2: The one young kid, matter of fact, one was still 1456 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,639 Speaker 2: in the block. One kid went to go see his lawyer. 1457 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,120 Speaker 2: He come back in the block, stacking, twisting his fingers up. 1458 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:28,240 Speaker 2: Hey hold me now, da da dah. I'm good. So 1459 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:34,360 Speaker 2: I'm like my my business. But then, like you know, 1460 01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,040 Speaker 2: I was doing house details. I was never in my cell. 1461 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,599 Speaker 2: I'm always out. You know what I'm saying. I get 1462 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 2: I'm having my way. But I overheard him talking. You 1463 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,360 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like, yeah, no, my lawyer told me, 1464 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:50,080 Speaker 2: you know, if I take the scale. The long story shot, 1465 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,639 Speaker 2: I think like they found some drugs and a scale 1466 01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,679 Speaker 2: in a common area. Don't know neither one of they person, 1467 01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,519 Speaker 2: but his lawyer just convinced him to take this the scale, 1468 01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,360 Speaker 2: which is Paraphanitican like that. He said, yeah, I take that. 1469 01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:09,519 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get no probation. Good an I'm a kid like, 1470 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:16,160 Speaker 2: I know, I'm good. That's when you know what I'm saying. 1471 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:21,040 Speaker 2: Being an elder, the obligation comes in and I said, look, man, 1472 01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 2: look I don't want to get in your business. I 1473 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,080 Speaker 2: don't get on nobody cares. I don't care about it. 1474 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,280 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm not I'm not no 1475 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:31,840 Speaker 2: jail lawyer, none of that. But you just told on him, right? 1476 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,479 Speaker 2: He said, what you mean, nigga, I don't do all 1477 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,000 Speaker 2: that I said you did. If you took a plead 1478 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:40,920 Speaker 2: and took a charge you did. You just said this 1479 01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,479 Speaker 2: joint was in the common area, right. I mean, you 1480 01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,519 Speaker 2: don't belong to nobody. That's what you're suposed to say. 1481 01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,400 Speaker 2: That's what you're suposed to say until they run out 1482 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,880 Speaker 2: of steam, no matter how long you gotta sit in here, 1483 01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,720 Speaker 2: you know. And I'm not teaching criminology, trust me, but 1484 01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:00,680 Speaker 2: I hate to see young kids immersed in a lifestyle 1485 01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:06,560 Speaker 2: where they haven't educated themselves on the consequences. You know 1486 01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Because like I said, go back to choice, right, 1487 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,320 Speaker 2: So he like, you know you what you mean? I said, Look, 1488 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,799 Speaker 2: if you took the skal, then who do the drugs 1489 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:18,720 Speaker 2: belong to? So they looking at each other and I'm like, no, 1490 01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:20,680 Speaker 2: don't be mad at your man, cause you know, this 1491 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 2: whole phase changed from it changed from being shocked to 1492 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:31,120 Speaker 2: like you did tell them? I said, look, just call 1493 01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,080 Speaker 2: your lawyer, go back tell people. That's how you know. 1494 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,600 Speaker 2: And I just said to say not the digress. But 1495 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 2: it's like, like I said, I could go on. It's 1496 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,120 Speaker 2: like a lot of things that I've learned, you know 1497 01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:46,360 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I've learned about where we're going as 1498 01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,360 Speaker 2: a people. And that was the whole subject we were 1499 01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,640 Speaker 2: talking about. It was like, how do we evolve? How 1500 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 2: do we escape this normalization of things that's not normal. 1501 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,920 Speaker 2: How do we, you know, stop desensitizing ourselves the things 1502 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:06,440 Speaker 2: that actually matter, you know, how do we better ourselves? 1503 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,960 Speaker 2: Because in the court of Ana, law says save yourself 1504 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,600 Speaker 2: and save your family, right, So this is a permissible 1505 01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:15,040 Speaker 2: form of selfishness, you know what I'm saying. We create 1506 01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,720 Speaker 2: a contingencies that we don't allow each other to be 1507 01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,760 Speaker 2: about self. You're sucking, not how important to help you? 1508 01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,759 Speaker 2: If I ain't helping, I ain't even got here, ain'tin't 1509 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,080 Speaker 2: got about Nigga said, yeah, and why I got to 1510 01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:30,840 Speaker 2: help you. First. You know, I got a mother that's sick, 1511 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,160 Speaker 2: I got a daughter. You know what I'm saying. You know, 1512 01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,880 Speaker 2: I got all these things. So for you to hold 1513 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:41,080 Speaker 2: that over my head, you know what I'm saying, something 1514 01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,320 Speaker 2: should be telling me about the company I'm keeping. You 1515 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:48,040 Speaker 2: definitely can't be my homeboy. Man. All these terms we're 1516 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:52,320 Speaker 2: using because you want me to subject myself to your 1517 01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:56,519 Speaker 2: welfare and just disregard the welfare of the people that 1518 01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm entrusted with, You can't possibly be a friend of mine, 1519 01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, right, So you know it's 1520 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:11,840 Speaker 2: just that's what I think. It has to start with, 1521 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:18,760 Speaker 2: first and foremost understanding that there's a creator of the 1522 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:22,519 Speaker 2: heavens in the earth, and everything understood, free from need, 1523 01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:26,840 Speaker 2: free from deficiency, free from flaw, goes back to us being, 1524 01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:32,240 Speaker 2: you know, creatures of need. You know what I'm saying, 1525 01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:38,000 Speaker 2: We're deficient. We created deficient, We created in the state 1526 01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:42,960 Speaker 2: of need, and our needs and refuge should always be sought. 1527 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,479 Speaker 2: And the one that's free from that, you know, that 1528 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,719 Speaker 2: becomes your base, that's your foundation. You know what I'm saying. 1529 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,120 Speaker 2: Not anything that contradicts that common sensor tell you is 1530 01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,479 Speaker 2: not the right things. You know what I'm saying. You 1531 01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:58,320 Speaker 2: don't have to get schooled. Once you learn that, learn 1532 01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:00,600 Speaker 2: you learn your purpose or why you was created. It 1533 01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,360 Speaker 2: was created solely for the purpose to worship the one 1534 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,960 Speaker 2: that created you. That's the greatest relationship for any human 1535 01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:12,760 Speaker 2: being to have. Cause you can't implement nothing consistent or 1536 01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,519 Speaker 2: you know im saying, or you know, consistent with good 1537 01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:20,200 Speaker 2: if you don't have that foundation or find ourselves worship 1538 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,519 Speaker 2: and other things that have no value, that can't harm 1539 01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:27,439 Speaker 2: you or can't benefit you. You know, and you know 1540 01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,920 Speaker 2: that's pretty much where I've come in my life. And 1541 01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:37,519 Speaker 2: just to give you another bouquet, you know, watching what 1542 01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:42,479 Speaker 2: you've endured, you know, with your family, and you know, 1543 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:48,519 Speaker 2: seeing how you implement patience, and just to resolve, you 1544 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:53,479 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, to endure something that nothing could 1545 01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:57,040 Speaker 2: prepare you for, nothing could prepare you for for death. 1546 01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 2: You know, no law says in the court, he says, 1547 01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:02,479 Speaker 2: cool little nephts in that it could tell them or 1548 01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,160 Speaker 2: verily every soul will taste that. So it's inevitable. We 1549 01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,320 Speaker 2: know that, you know what I'm saying. That's why we 1550 01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:11,920 Speaker 2: live a certain way preparing for what's inevitable, but still 1551 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:16,439 Speaker 2: when they come as human beings, it's something that you endure, 1552 01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,639 Speaker 2: and it's not an easy thing, you know what I'm saying. 1553 01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:24,280 Speaker 2: I just literally came from a funeral this weekend, from 1554 01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,759 Speaker 2: a pop spots, you know what I'm saying. I came 1555 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,680 Speaker 2: home my grandmother. She had stayed for cancer. You know 1556 01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,719 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. She the mayble to hold on until 1557 01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,280 Speaker 2: I came home. My grandfather couldn't make it, you know 1558 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,920 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And even in prison, I literally had 1559 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:43,840 Speaker 2: to go in and shower and we yeah and crying 1560 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,960 Speaker 2: a bunch of front of convicts. You know what I'm saying, right, 1561 01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,840 Speaker 2: But I had to go in a shower. There's water 1562 01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:50,280 Speaker 2: on me. Anyway. You can't tell her, you know what 1563 01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:55,360 Speaker 2: I'm saying, from crying, right, you know. But those ways 1564 01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:59,120 Speaker 2: that we cope with adversity really defines what kind of 1565 01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,800 Speaker 2: man you are. You know. I say that to say, Broll, 1566 01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,280 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Bro. I mean, yes, sir, you are 1567 01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,920 Speaker 2: a red breed for this generation. You know, it takes 1568 01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:09,240 Speaker 2: a lot. 1569 01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,080 Speaker 4: And basically what you said is that really the only way, 1570 01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,440 Speaker 4: cause if you don't have that foundation, you'll be lost absolutely, 1571 01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:18,320 Speaker 4: and the piggyback off of what you was saying, I 1572 01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:21,439 Speaker 4: was just thinking, like, Okay, you was already making that transition. 1573 01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:25,639 Speaker 4: At thirty six, we are considered grown grown. Oh yeah, adult, 1574 01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:30,360 Speaker 4: you're done, You're I already know what I'm doing. I'm 1575 01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:33,000 Speaker 4: just focusing on my religion and being one with the 1576 01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:33,679 Speaker 4: high power. 1577 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, now you gotta go to prison. 1578 01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:42,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, how is your mind state and understanding saying Okay, 1579 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,640 Speaker 4: you was already preparing me to be I got I 1580 01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,880 Speaker 4: gotta go somewhere anyway, But you was preparing me earlier, Yeah, 1581 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:49,960 Speaker 4: to take this road. 1582 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1583 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,799 Speaker 2: So I'm not going to tear or decipher. 1584 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, my journey I'm gonna continue even in here. 1585 01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:02,600 Speaker 2: Well, part of my faith is to accept you know, 1586 01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:07,679 Speaker 2: a laws, divine decree, right, you know Preordain. It can't 1587 01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:12,360 Speaker 2: change it. You don't have the capacity. The change was 1588 01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:15,479 Speaker 2: already written for you. So you accepted the good and 1589 01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,200 Speaker 2: the batter bit. Because we attribute all of that to 1590 01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:21,920 Speaker 2: a law, the good, the bad, everything. It's not something 1591 01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:25,320 Speaker 2: that you give a share to a creation like the 1592 01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:29,760 Speaker 2: devil or whatever shaped on. Nah, that's another creature I need. 1593 01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:33,960 Speaker 2: He doesn't have the power to determine life death, you know, 1594 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:39,640 Speaker 2: you know, prosperity, adversity. He doesn't have that power. So 1595 01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:46,280 Speaker 2: with that relationship comes acceptance of anything and everything that's preordained, 1596 01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:53,240 Speaker 2: you know. So, like I said, all of the things 1597 01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:54,880 Speaker 2: that I did, I should have went to prison for 1598 01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:58,880 Speaker 2: once again, he's the best of plan. Is like I 1599 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:02,840 Speaker 2: was survived though those but now here I am, you know, 1600 01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:06,000 Speaker 2: on a whole different path and then I go to prison, right, 1601 01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:10,040 Speaker 2: you know, right, But what I was able to acquire 1602 01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:14,160 Speaker 2: prior to going to prison, that's what helped me navigate. 1603 01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:16,760 Speaker 2: Had I did a bit as loom that had been 1604 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,280 Speaker 2: a different bid, I promise you to have been a 1605 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,120 Speaker 2: whole different bid as a meyor it was a it 1606 01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,519 Speaker 2: was a beautiful bid, you know what I'm saying. It 1607 01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:26,960 Speaker 2: gave me time. What do you do with it? I 1608 01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,240 Speaker 2: was in the fact, So I started my first six 1609 01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,320 Speaker 2: months I was in Belgium. I was in a treederable 1610 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,960 Speaker 2: prison in Belgium. Yeah, fighting my extradition. I went always 1611 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:39,519 Speaker 2: Supreme Court in Belgium fighting my extradition because they were 1612 01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 2: trying to, you know, use that situation to push me 1613 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:49,400 Speaker 2: in a situation people fold, you know, and they was 1614 01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:53,479 Speaker 2: trying to add something or they was trying to, you know, 1615 01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:59,599 Speaker 2: get me to accept, you know, an extradition that were 1616 01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,320 Speaker 2: in the for them to take anything outside of the 1617 01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,639 Speaker 2: instant offense and use it against me. So meaning if 1618 01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:09,720 Speaker 2: I wasn't paying attention or understood the circumstances around my 1619 01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:13,280 Speaker 2: case and just hasten because you know, I'm out here. 1620 01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:19,080 Speaker 2: They speak Dutch, they speak Arabic, and most of the 1621 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:23,000 Speaker 2: inmates there was Moroccan Algerians, the CEO. So I was 1622 01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:26,599 Speaker 2: able to you know, to to to you know, find 1623 01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:31,680 Speaker 2: solace in being Arabic. But just the conditions everything, you know, 1624 01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,560 Speaker 2: you're away from your family every day. I left. My 1625 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,639 Speaker 2: wife and my kids is in Egypt, like I'm over 1626 01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:40,680 Speaker 2: here in the capital of Europe. I'm you know, that's 1627 01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:46,320 Speaker 2: a lot the average dude, you know, the average dude 1628 01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:54,479 Speaker 2: under lesser circumstances done foted like a beach chair. So, 1629 01:35:55,720 --> 01:36:00,080 Speaker 2: like I said, excepting that that was the case, it 1630 01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:06,800 Speaker 2: enabled me to just try to benefit not sit here. 1631 01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:11,040 Speaker 2: D's my headline, worrying about something I can't change, you 1632 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:15,760 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And because of that extensive life 1633 01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:17,559 Speaker 2: I told you as a kid, doing all I never 1634 01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:19,400 Speaker 2: got a chance to pull over and park. Like I've 1635 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:24,960 Speaker 2: always been running go gunning since eighty forty five, you 1636 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,439 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, been on a super goal. So 1637 01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:28,960 Speaker 2: that was the first time I was able to pull 1638 01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:35,760 Speaker 2: over and actually park and reset, and you know, take 1639 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,960 Speaker 2: the account a lot of things that transpire my life 1640 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,320 Speaker 2: and how it all came to this point and how 1641 01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:43,280 Speaker 2: it makes sense and what I need to do moving 1642 01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:49,400 Speaker 2: forward side of plan, you know. And a lot of 1643 01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:52,360 Speaker 2: dudes in here is doing a long two days, so 1644 01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:53,960 Speaker 2: they had to say it like whatever they came in 1645 01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:57,360 Speaker 2: prison on, they leave on that same thing. M right, 1646 01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,519 Speaker 2: But I mean the ten fifteen, twenty years in the middle, 1647 01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,320 Speaker 2: don't even care. You did it a long two days. 1648 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,240 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I did a bid that 1649 01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:09,080 Speaker 2: was beneficial. I came home you know people, Yeah, I 1650 01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:13,880 Speaker 2: still got on my marbles. I'm straight and institutionalized and 1651 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,960 Speaker 2: nothing like that. Like you know what I'm saying, ain't lit. 1652 01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,080 Speaker 2: I used to switch stuff up just on purpose. You 1653 01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,320 Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna put condition in first, then the shampool. 1654 01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:27,559 Speaker 2: Like anytime I found myself doing something, I don't switch 1655 01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:34,519 Speaker 2: up a purpose routine. Pants on? Could you find yourself 1656 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:36,760 Speaker 2: when it becoming habitual, when you just literally talking to 1657 01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:41,360 Speaker 2: somebody like yeah, man, hold on, man, like you know, 1658 01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:47,760 Speaker 2: like that just like became too fluent because you know, 1659 01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:49,680 Speaker 2: I know y'all heard the stories a dude that come 1660 01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:57,480 Speaker 2: home burnt out the institution looking for I'm talking about duds, 1661 01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:01,800 Speaker 2: all fanst foods, getting in their house with shoes on. Yeah, 1662 01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:06,200 Speaker 2: keeping all the right there on the ship. Yo. I 1663 01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:09,040 Speaker 2: had a dude tell personal nights thing. I had a 1664 01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,880 Speaker 2: dude tell me his nephew came home from doing bad time. 1665 01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:15,080 Speaker 2: He was he was the old time. He tell me. Yeah, 1666 01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:20,479 Speaker 2: as a girl. When he was the bathroom, it was like, dang, 1667 01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:22,680 Speaker 2: where a tissue at? Because you can have your own 1668 01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:27,920 Speaker 2: roller tissue roll. He didn't take the roll, got the bathroom, 1669 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:31,799 Speaker 2: the girls, the girl in the bathroom man to believe herself. 1670 01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:44,880 Speaker 2: Shn't you have? He got the tissue, and it took 1671 01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,519 Speaker 2: the tissue into that, you know, Like we got dude 1672 01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:53,680 Speaker 2: standing up for count time man counttop. It was what 1673 01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:57,880 Speaker 2: you what's wrong with you? That's crazy? Four o'clock? He 1674 01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,559 Speaker 2: count ain't no count t clock up in the morning 1675 01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:05,639 Speaker 2: for you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's 1676 01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:09,600 Speaker 2: just it's just like but I'm gonna tell you this. 1677 01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:11,479 Speaker 6: You at four o'clock just to see you there you 1678 01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:11,840 Speaker 6: and know. 1679 01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:20,120 Speaker 2: What you put me in ten o'clock. I can't, yes, 1680 01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:22,120 Speaker 2: especially in the hole though you know I did over 1681 01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:25,960 Speaker 2: a year in the hole. Hold which different times. Hole. 1682 01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:28,479 Speaker 4: It's a whole where it's like you could do time, 1683 01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:29,000 Speaker 4: but you can't do. 1684 01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,640 Speaker 2: You can find it like dark no lights dark, I 1685 01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,479 Speaker 2: mean they turned them off at a certain point. Use 1686 01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,639 Speaker 2: the light out of the door from the movies. 1687 01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:47,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, when you when you really bad, no broken, 1688 01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:48,920 Speaker 4: when you really bad, man, they got a place for 1689 01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:49,720 Speaker 4: your bad ass. 1690 01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,679 Speaker 2: Now the whole. I know it's a hole, but something 1691 01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:54,400 Speaker 2: like it's a it's a I done been to the whole. 1692 01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:56,360 Speaker 2: Toy did time. 1693 01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:57,919 Speaker 6: So my ship ain't talking about. 1694 01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:06,240 Speaker 2: You know, understand that the county is worse county County. 1695 01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:10,639 Speaker 2: County is gladiated. That's what I'm trying to tell County 1696 01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:12,840 Speaker 2: like you, we got the worst county in planning. I 1697 01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,400 Speaker 2: don't care nobody said Rickets Island. Rockets is a prison. 1698 01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:19,439 Speaker 2: That's not a count It over eight right Street. I've 1699 01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:22,000 Speaker 2: been the right street. You know what I'm saying but 1700 01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:25,760 Speaker 2: I ain't had no problems to right street. I did, 1701 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:27,920 Speaker 2: I did, I did, I did. I had to pushed 1702 01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:31,800 Speaker 2: one dude is together. Yeah, he probably was the East 1703 01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:33,280 Speaker 2: side nigga trying your New York. 1704 01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:33,960 Speaker 1: You know what. 1705 01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:39,040 Speaker 2: Actually, brother was somebody nig did. Brother was somebody in 1706 01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,600 Speaker 2: the street. I knew him though, But dude was just 1707 01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:45,320 Speaker 2: going overboard and it's like, okay, that's that's I don't 1708 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:50,680 Speaker 2: really care about your brother. Yeah, that's all A. 1709 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:52,920 Speaker 4: Lot of nigga want to seek New York. 1710 01:40:54,800 --> 01:41:04,600 Speaker 2: You know, he ain't like but but like because like 1711 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,320 Speaker 2: in the county, you ain't get no time or nothing yet, 1712 01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:09,800 Speaker 2: right you know, even if you like to take up 1713 01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:11,800 Speaker 2: on the police like, it ain't like you just gonna 1714 01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:14,960 Speaker 2: you know, there's nothing just going to be added on. 1715 01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:18,000 Speaker 2: I respect rules. That's why I respect rules today. But 1716 01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:22,120 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I would never discourage what your 1717 01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,800 Speaker 2: experience because any I mean a day away from your 1718 01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,840 Speaker 2: family against your will, that's a lot facts, you know 1719 01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:31,639 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. A year old solitary it was broken 1720 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,960 Speaker 2: up by this this once in Belgium like quarter charge 1721 01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:39,400 Speaker 2: in two hour, twenty three hours lockdown and get one 1722 01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:43,439 Speaker 2: hour wrecked shit you know what I'm saying. It was 1723 01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:47,880 Speaker 2: different sleep it I just read read yeah, and that's 1724 01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,800 Speaker 2: why I wanted to get to a point. And I'm 1725 01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,160 Speaker 2: not an expert on mental illness just to everybody know, 1726 01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,200 Speaker 2: but as a Muslim, I live in my heart. I 1727 01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,240 Speaker 2: don't live in my heat. You know what I'm saying. 1728 01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,519 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what that makes sense, you know, 1729 01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:06,439 Speaker 2: because your brain you can absorb a lot of stuff, right, 1730 01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:10,439 Speaker 2: you know, But just like any type of hardware or 1731 01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,840 Speaker 2: hard drive, if you overloaded, what happens to it? Just 1732 01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:19,599 Speaker 2: just do shit? It a crack, right, or to run slow? Right, 1733 01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:23,120 Speaker 2: when you're doing overloaded on run at the same capacity 1734 01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:26,280 Speaker 2: or speed you use all the gigabytes. Yeah, Or you're 1735 01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:28,360 Speaker 2: trying to process too much because that's what you know, 1736 01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:32,799 Speaker 2: you know, do the processes things. So trying to process 1737 01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:37,479 Speaker 2: a lot of things that you sponged up, it can 1738 01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:41,200 Speaker 2: become difficult. But the heart, it has a filter. You 1739 01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,920 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You can't have two things that 1740 01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:48,360 Speaker 2: contradict yourself residing the heart at the same time. It's impossible, right, 1741 01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:51,599 Speaker 2: It's impossible, you know what I'm saying. So that means 1742 01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:55,439 Speaker 2: that if you allowed like if your heart is righteous, 1743 01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,200 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Anything they contradict that you're 1744 01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,760 Speaker 2: gonna reject it, they can't reside. At the same time, 1745 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:02,280 Speaker 2: you can put all that up here, though, you can 1746 01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,519 Speaker 2: just store anything up here, you know what I'm saying, 1747 01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:07,000 Speaker 2: and trying to make sense if it sometime could drive 1748 01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,880 Speaker 2: you crazy, you know what I'm saying. But if you 1749 01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:17,920 Speaker 2: live here, this will definitely act as a criterion, the 1750 01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:22,920 Speaker 2: differentiate between what's correcting what's not. And this is a 1751 01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,960 Speaker 2: favor from your Lord. He gave you this for a reason, 1752 01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:30,280 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Because you could be brain 1753 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,800 Speaker 2: dead and still live right right, But if this stop 1754 01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:38,400 Speaker 2: shows over so people misinterpret what the real engine is. 1755 01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:40,360 Speaker 2: The engine ain't your brain? Everybody too much brain, You're 1756 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,920 Speaker 2: not man. That joint can stop working and you can 1757 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:48,679 Speaker 2: still live. You could be a vegetable and still live. 1758 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:53,840 Speaker 2: But when your heart stopped beating, show is over. You 1759 01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:58,840 Speaker 2: can't keep your brain running. Heart debt. You know what 1760 01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:01,439 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So this is the real engine. You know 1761 01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:04,759 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You purify this, everything else will follow, 1762 01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:08,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Trying to clean this is impossible. 1763 01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:10,360 Speaker 2: I'd be trying to tell people that too, though this 1764 01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,160 Speaker 2: is gonna make the sense for this. The heart is right, 1765 01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,200 Speaker 2: you know, your thought process of being. You know you 1766 01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:18,720 Speaker 2: can tell normally with your heart. 1767 01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:21,040 Speaker 4: You said, you said it in a more articulate way, 1768 01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:25,679 Speaker 4: because I always say, lead by the spirit, because your brain. 1769 01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:27,720 Speaker 4: I said, if a motherfucker want to know my mentor bitch, 1770 01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:29,160 Speaker 4: you don't want to know what's up here. 1771 01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:30,280 Speaker 2: It's too much. 1772 01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:31,040 Speaker 6: It's too much for me. 1773 01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:35,679 Speaker 2: This is why I'm so grateful. 1774 01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:39,920 Speaker 4: And I walked graciously and I'm glad God the tear 1775 01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:43,040 Speaker 4: in my life. It made me go this way because mentally, 1776 01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:47,519 Speaker 4: I know, okay, what's the spirit and what's not. So 1777 01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:49,439 Speaker 4: when that comes, I'm like, oh, that's just something my 1778 01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:51,880 Speaker 4: brain I consumed from seeing so much of this ship 1779 01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,880 Speaker 4: and what the media that said, your heart, you don't 1780 01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:55,679 Speaker 4: working with my heart. 1781 01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,960 Speaker 2: Okay, that thought, that's part of my heart. That's my thought. 1782 01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,960 Speaker 4: So when we was talking on a couple episodes about 1783 01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:06,080 Speaker 4: mental illness and all that, I can understand. I'm emphathetic 1784 01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:08,599 Speaker 4: because a lot of people sweat or whatever they thinking 1785 01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:09,439 Speaker 4: it's them. 1786 01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:14,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they can't say they like I'm thinking it. 1787 01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,559 Speaker 4: I'm like, bron, but you you donet gave that too 1788 01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:22,680 Speaker 4: much energy that you done broaden that particular thought and 1789 01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:23,439 Speaker 4: it's not even you. 1790 01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, just because you're thinking it don't mean it's your thought. 1791 01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:29,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well you got understand what a lot of people 1792 01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,720 Speaker 2: will stimulated out here too, because I mean, I ain't 1793 01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:36,880 Speaker 2: gonna lie you smoke more, man, but that would definitely stinhead. Yeah, 1794 01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:41,280 Speaker 2: it would stimulate you know, So like I would tell 1795 01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,880 Speaker 2: you this, This is why intoxicants is not permissible in 1796 01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:48,479 Speaker 2: this land. Man. The Arabic is called humma humber. Is 1797 01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:52,280 Speaker 2: any intoxic Anything that makes the thought process fluctuate is 1798 01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,320 Speaker 2: an intoxicate. You know what I'm saying. Even over the 1799 01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:58,840 Speaker 2: counter medicine can do it. Anything that makes the thought 1800 01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:03,320 Speaker 2: all waiting, that's an intoxic you know what I'm saying. 1801 01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:07,880 Speaker 2: So now not to you know, because I ain't gonna quit, 1802 01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:14,519 Speaker 2: so no matter what, I'm just saying, what you understand. 1803 01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:19,160 Speaker 2: Like even for me, like back then, you know that's 1804 01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:25,479 Speaker 2: what it did. It had me constant deep thought right right. 1805 01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:29,639 Speaker 2: Sometimes the time will go by and I ain't realize 1806 01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,160 Speaker 2: I was thinking that long. You know what I'm saying. 1807 01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,080 Speaker 2: I was just you know, I should have been moving 1808 01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:36,120 Speaker 2: like I should have been busting the move by now, 1809 01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:39,760 Speaker 2: but thirty solid. Yeah, yeah, I'm just going. You know 1810 01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,200 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. The next time you look up, you 1811 01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:47,559 Speaker 2: know you're like, man, I might have overthought this situation. 1812 01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:51,439 Speaker 2: You're gonna get because you come on, get right, Yeah, 1813 01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:52,040 Speaker 2: get right. 1814 01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:56,040 Speaker 1: You can overthink ship and not do ship. That's with 1815 01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,760 Speaker 1: people to overthink. Sometimes you gotta react. You gotta do 1816 01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:00,639 Speaker 1: like you said, your heart. 1817 01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,400 Speaker 4: But if one, but if one wants to become one 1818 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:07,720 Speaker 4: with the higher power, this is not a relationship. 1819 01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:08,799 Speaker 2: That just comes easy. 1820 01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:11,320 Speaker 1: It's relationship. 1821 01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:17,679 Speaker 2: It's work and if you maintaining it, obtaining it is easy, 1822 01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:23,280 Speaker 2: but sustaining it is a trial. Because you know, your 1823 01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:27,679 Speaker 2: desires is what you're at war with every day. Every 1824 01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,000 Speaker 2: day you with the flesh is getting in there every 1825 01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:35,360 Speaker 2: time your desires. So now, if your desires contradict obedience, 1826 01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:39,840 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, you gotta make a choice. 1827 01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm going with obedience every time you gotta move. And 1828 01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:45,360 Speaker 2: that's called self governance, you know what I'm saying. That's 1829 01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,559 Speaker 2: what you know. We need that. You know what I'm saying. 1830 01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:49,280 Speaker 2: We got to create it and know what's better than 1831 01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,840 Speaker 2: we know ourselves. We keep trying to figure this stuff out. 1832 01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:55,519 Speaker 2: We all think that our issues is exclusive. Nobody is 1833 01:47:55,600 --> 01:48:01,120 Speaker 2: going through this but me. Oh yeah, you're the only 1834 01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:05,439 Speaker 2: person in the whole world, you know what I'm saying. 1835 01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, man, you know we can do this forever, 1836 01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:10,840 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like I say, you know, 1837 01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,920 Speaker 2: I'm excited not just to do the show with y'all 1838 01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:18,080 Speaker 2: know that death be a part of the families need 1839 01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:22,280 Speaker 2: the people, don't you know. We're gonna take this opportunity 1840 01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:28,120 Speaker 2: to let them know what I'm saying. Respective podcast will 1841 01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:44,640 Speaker 2: be distributed through And I want to conclude it with 1842 01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:48,120 Speaker 2: why because it's important because people look at like, you know, 1843 01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,800 Speaker 2: they're gonna come with their own determination why, you know, 1844 01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:54,680 Speaker 2: And just to be honest, I mean it was it 1845 01:48:54,840 --> 01:49:00,120 Speaker 2: was a lot of opportunities, you know, just because of 1846 01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:04,200 Speaker 2: the nature of what I'm trying to do. It's beautiful 1847 01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,920 Speaker 2: that it doesn't conflict. I mean, y'all got the flagship shop, 1848 01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:11,599 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It doesn't conflict with anything 1849 01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:14,760 Speaker 2: that's important. You don't want to be, you know, in 1850 01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,000 Speaker 2: a hamster wheel, you know what I mean. That was 1851 01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:21,599 Speaker 2: one reason. But ultimately, like I said, what I saw 1852 01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:25,280 Speaker 2: in what y'all were doing and how y'all built this, 1853 01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:29,400 Speaker 2: you know, from the ground up. I've even heard stories 1854 01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:35,040 Speaker 2: of y'all allude in certain situations that probably wouldn't have 1855 01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:39,599 Speaker 2: been to your benefit, which shows me how much passion 1856 01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:44,360 Speaker 2: you know you have for what you built. You know, 1857 01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:51,360 Speaker 2: so it's not about you know, sacrificing your integrity and 1858 01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,640 Speaker 2: all of those things to win. And this is why 1859 01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:57,240 Speaker 2: y'all enjoy yourself. Like people look at this show, people 1860 01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:01,720 Speaker 2: look at y'all to say, this might be the easiest 1861 01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:06,200 Speaker 2: money y'all could y'all ever made y'all live, because it's 1862 01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:06,519 Speaker 2: like the. 1863 01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:18,200 Speaker 1: Part they don't see that they don't understand that the business, 1864 01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:21,840 Speaker 1: the business part, or building it, you know what I mean? 1865 01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:26,160 Speaker 1: Like you said, do that delayed gratification right, saying no 1866 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:28,799 Speaker 1: in the beginning so you can get what you want. 1867 01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,599 Speaker 2: In the in the longer the process. That was one 1868 01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:35,320 Speaker 2: of my reasons because I know that you know, y'all 1869 01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:36,880 Speaker 2: run that tight ship and. 1870 01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:40,040 Speaker 4: We also run it together, you know what I'm saying, 1871 01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:44,320 Speaker 4: Like it's a unit where it's like we all came 1872 01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:47,880 Speaker 4: in and said, look, we don't know everything, but we're 1873 01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:50,200 Speaker 4: willing to learn from each other. 1874 01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:50,840 Speaker 1: And. 1875 01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:54,360 Speaker 2: Even if you may not feel like you said, man, 1876 01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:56,479 Speaker 2: I feel some type of way. But if the selected 1877 01:50:56,560 --> 01:51:00,560 Speaker 2: group is saying let's run it, I'm gonna run it 1878 01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,200 Speaker 2: like I agree, because I did agree if they said 1879 01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:06,720 Speaker 2: run it. Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's it. 1880 01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,240 Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying, And it always works in 1881 01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:10,759 Speaker 4: our best favor. 1882 01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,960 Speaker 2: Bro, you feel me, We don't look at it. It's 1883 01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,800 Speaker 2: a I think or me, me me thing. 1884 01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:20,240 Speaker 5: And out of every out of everything I'm in, everything 1885 01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,960 Speaker 5: I done worked on, this is the only situation that's 1886 01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:27,120 Speaker 5: like that. And I get to take what I learned 1887 01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:29,360 Speaker 5: from over here and go to other places and be like, 1888 01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,800 Speaker 5: if the energy ain't like how it is over here already. 1889 01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,360 Speaker 2: I'm an employee. Yeah, it's worked. It's worth working. It's 1890 01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:39,439 Speaker 2: just working. I can make it look like I can 1891 01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:41,720 Speaker 2: make it look like work, but it's worked over here. 1892 01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:44,240 Speaker 4: It's like, you know what, Now, let's take the work 1893 01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:45,800 Speaker 4: in the business from over there. 1894 01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:47,080 Speaker 2: Got to get you to sign this. 1895 01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:51,000 Speaker 1: Even I have fun man somewhere putting all the legends 1896 01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:56,320 Speaker 1: on the table, and we got you, of course, we 1897 01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:59,080 Speaker 1: got you, some dope ass eighty fast souf. 1898 01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:01,720 Speaker 2: That's the reason at merchant. 1899 01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, the same stuff we got. 1900 01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:08,200 Speaker 2: Don't let it, we don't let me show. 1901 01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:10,120 Speaker 6: Yeah they 1902 01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah yea