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Speaker 1: It is Thursday May. This is Jaguar's Happy Hour and

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Speaker 1: now expected to sign tomorrow as the newest wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: J P. Chack. I need to stretch, but that's other news.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Logaman,

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Speaker 1: Tony Baselli in parts unknown. He'll be back next week.

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Speaker 1: Joe Fortunado's here, Brent Reever's here, our old crew. Glad

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Speaker 1: you're with us today. As ot as continue. What's up, Logs?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? I'm just I'm having flashed. When

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Speaker 1: Joe starting to talk about out JP Shadowick wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: There was that comedy skit that was done years ago,

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Speaker 1: back in about the mid eighties where the guy did

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Speaker 1: did the college football skit. Did you ever see that?

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Speaker 1: You never saw talking about. I'm gonna have to show

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Speaker 1: it to you during the break because it's not not

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Speaker 1: all exactly clean. But when Joe said that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: that skit. Yeah, So anyway, some people out there might

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Speaker 1: know what I'm thinking about. Here's what we're getting to.

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Speaker 1: When you guys see this, you're gonna go, oh wow,

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Speaker 1: oh goodness. I can't wait to see. Here's what we're

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Speaker 1: getting to of the program tonight. Nick Foles is back

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Speaker 1: at practice. Will break that down today. Todd Wash spoke

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Speaker 1: with the Jaguars media and discuss his rookie pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. That's what Josh Allen's going to be, by

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Speaker 1: the way, and we'll go around the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: We'll hear about the executive director of the p A,

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Speaker 1: Doug Moron Tuesday giving us the news that Nick Foles

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Speaker 1: for the Folest family. But through that tragedy, now Nick

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Speaker 1: you're literally gonna drop a guy, you don't disguise it well.

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Speaker 1: The speed of a safety is not going to scare

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Speaker 1: much offense, most off the top. Yeah, it'll be it'll

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Speaker 1: be a fun to watch. How to me how it'll

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Speaker 1: be fun to watch or exciting to watch or curious

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Speaker 1: to watch? Exactly? How are they going to divvy up

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Speaker 1: the snaps and based defensive down between Gowckway and Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: Because as Todd Walsh was staying there, they both play

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Speaker 1: the same position. But when you get the sub personnel,

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Speaker 1: which sub personnel can mean your nickel package, you're dying package. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then and in some cases you could have Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen in as a defensive end in a base package

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Speaker 1: with class Campbell kicking into the inside. But how will

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Speaker 1: they juggle that balance of sharing the reps of the

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Speaker 1: base package between in gowck Way and Josh Allen. And

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Speaker 1: because you know Josh Allen physically, you would think would

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Speaker 1: be stronger and more gifted against the run, just because

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Speaker 1: he's much bigger than in gowk Way is. But at

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Speaker 1: the same token, it's hard to take a guy off

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Speaker 1: of the field like in Gockway that can change a

447
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Speaker 1: game with one playing because of his ability to rush

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Speaker 1: the passer and take the ball away from the quarterback. So, um,

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Speaker 1: that will be something to watch for certainly this year. Hey, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: you might have some fights in the sidelines if you

451
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Speaker 1: try to keep h. Gockway on the side off the

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Speaker 1: field too much. There's no doubt that's a guy who

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Speaker 1: likes to play every single well. And we said last year, Tony,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, he took a big step forward and

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Speaker 1: how he played the game in a physical fashion against

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Speaker 1: the run, he got better against the run last year.

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Speaker 1: The first year that he was in the league, he

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Speaker 1: wasn't very good against the run. The second year he

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Speaker 1: got a little bit better. And I thought last year

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Speaker 1: he took a significant step forward. And we're talking about

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Speaker 1: a guy that doesn't weigh a ton now. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's what to to forty ish When I see two forties,

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Speaker 1: that could be in the two thirties and it might

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Speaker 1: be barely over he's listed at and I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he weighs that much. But he plays

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Speaker 1: the game at a high level. So look, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter what he weighs. Tony. What do you think von

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Speaker 1: Miller made weighs? Are you with us? I think von

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Speaker 1: Miller is probably five to fifty Jeff, but he plays

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Speaker 1: a completely different position to stand up outside backer. He's

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Speaker 1: going he's in a two point stand. Uh. He plays

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Speaker 1: more to a two three four and it's really a

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Speaker 1: pass rush specialist and he's not a hand in the

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Speaker 1: ground defensive van. It's and they're interesting that our perception

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Speaker 1: of von Miller is tot five right, he's listed at Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I asked and gokay. The other day I was

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Speaker 1: asking him when he was here for the O t

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Speaker 1: A practice. I said, Hey, what are you weighing? And

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Speaker 1: he gave me, you know, ballpark of what he weighed,

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't really matter what he said. But then

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Speaker 1: we got into the conversation about von Miller and he

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Speaker 1: von Miller, and so we got into that conversation about

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Speaker 1: wait and what's an effective weight, and he was telling

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Speaker 1: me that von Miller told him that he plays at

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Speaker 1: two thirty five. Yeah, which I wouldn't think that von

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Speaker 1: Miller is too thirty five, because I mean, he plays

488
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Speaker 1: the game so big and plays it so well that

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Speaker 1: you would think that he weighs more. But Hey, look,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you weigh as long as you

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Speaker 1: can be effective. But Jeff Ti, I mean, and god

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Speaker 1: Points is very good past or ship, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think he has the first step that von Miller does.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what makes von Miller so good, and

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Speaker 1: he has it and and he has and the other

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Speaker 1: thing that makes von Miller so exceptional and god Poin

497
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Speaker 1: is good at this, but I don't think he's great

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Speaker 1: at it at this point. I mean, I think he's

499
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Speaker 1: growing in the player. But that inside spin moves stress

500
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Speaker 1: as an offensive linement so much that if you overplay

501
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Speaker 1: his speed at all, he's gonna hit you with that

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Speaker 1: inside spin molls and kill you. Tony. Where are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm in an airport of parts unknown right now. Oh,

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Speaker 1: an undisclosed location, undisclosed location. I might be doing some

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Speaker 1: secret work. I don't want to go to Okay, Well, well,

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Speaker 1: we certainly don't want to broadcast and everywhere, which we

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Speaker 1: would if that was the case. Are you gonna be

508
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Speaker 1: back next week though? Right? Yeah, we're gonna be there. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just me, the two of us, JP. It's uh, some

510
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Speaker 1: of the best shows we have all years. When Jeff's

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Speaker 1: on vacation. They aren't bad. Good that. I'm glad you're

512
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Speaker 1: having a great show. That's a good thing. Tony's here

513
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Speaker 1: for one next week. That's good. We'll work here for

514
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Speaker 1: one next week. Tony j shot. I've been there for

515
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Speaker 1: like a month straight. I'm glad. We're glad to have

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Speaker 1: you here. Anytime. We can get your busy and find

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Speaker 1: us a day. In fact, I think you've missed the

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Speaker 1: show in March, madness. Since I've missed the show, is that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I did miss one and marks madness. Tony, you'll be

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Speaker 1: You'll be pleasantly surprised. JP will. We'll welcome you with

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Speaker 1: big smiles. I'll believe that when I see it. Uh, Tony,

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Speaker 1: O t a some news coming out earlier in the

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Speaker 1: the team now connect the dots on that one. I

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Speaker 1: see what happened with Blara Brown and me, because you're

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Speaker 1: So connect the dots you have at the news on

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Speaker 1: made the conversion to wide receiver. Was actually had a

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Speaker 1: well and and now he's probably looking for some type

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Speaker 1: of a minimum salary type of deal, I'm sure, because

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Speaker 1: he hasn't done much. He's had some injuries to contend with,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the big reasons why

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Speaker 1: that his production was down. And he's still available as

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Speaker 1: a free agent, but he's got size. And if you

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Speaker 1: go back to when we were talking to South pal

648
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Speaker 1: South Palestonio who talked extensively about what he would like

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Speaker 1: to surround Nick Foles with if he were the general manager.

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Speaker 1: Remember the first thing he said, he needs big targets.

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Speaker 1: This is a big target. He's six ft four, this

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Speaker 1: is a big target. Big targets. So uh And as

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Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, when you have an offense that

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Speaker 1: doesn't have very many proven weapons, you bring every and

655
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Speaker 1: any and every everything in to try to find more.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't happened yet. There's nothing official from the team,

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Speaker 1: and that there were reports today saying that the Jaguars

658
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Speaker 1: were close. They worked him out yesterday. Um, I think

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Speaker 1: the team would like to get it done, but it's

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Speaker 1: not a fish. There's nothing. If it's gonna get done,

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Speaker 1: it will happen today because you want to be able

662
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Speaker 1: to get him out on the field as soon as

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Speaker 1: possible to see what he's got. Absolutely, you know, you've

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Speaker 1: only got what is it, how many OT days remaining

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Speaker 1: in number six coming up tomorrow, so four more you've

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Speaker 1: got half of your O t A days in mini

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Speaker 1: camp to be able to find out what he's got, So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to mess around. Where would he fit

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Speaker 1: into this wide receiver group right now, Big Tart, is

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Speaker 1: he come in and compete? See where he's at. He

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be. I wouldn't even put him at any kind

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Speaker 1: of ranking whatsoever, but I would I would say this,

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Speaker 1: and that he's a big target who who's got some

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Speaker 1: catch radius, who's had some success in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: And the Jaguars are looking for weapons, and they're looking

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Speaker 1: for guys that have some catch radius and some side

677
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Speaker 1: because that's what you know what Nick Foles apparently likes

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Speaker 1: to have. I mean, Chris Connelly kind of fits that

679
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Speaker 1: mold DJ Chart fits that mold D. D. Westbrook not

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Speaker 1: so much, but he's coming off a very successful year.

681
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Speaker 1: Marquise Lee is gonna be a good target. It's because

682
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Speaker 1: he gets open, he gets separations to be healthy. Look,

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Speaker 1: the more, the more of the merrier. And here's here's

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Speaker 1: the other thing. I don't know how much he can

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Speaker 1: contribute on special teams, but he's got the size right

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Speaker 1: big Yeah, So we'll see. What do you think of

687
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Speaker 1: the tight ends so far? Josh Holliver, Jeff Swam I'm

688
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Speaker 1: gonna chat with Jeff Swain tomorrow after practice. You'll hear

689
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Speaker 1: that on Jaguars dot com. How do you say his

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Speaker 1: last name swam swam? Okay, I just want to make

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Speaker 1: sure you said it's like I was thinking that it was,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, all the new guys, you want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that you pronounced their names right. Jeff has

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Speaker 1: pronounced Jeff. Yes, you should know that it's not Jeff. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not Jeff Jeff. Yeah. But Swim is uh, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a range e tight end. I like. I

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Speaker 1: like watching him and I think that, uh, the four

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Speaker 1: tight ends that are currently on the roster I think

699
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Speaker 1: are gonna be or be okay and okay, I think

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Speaker 1: is uh, we'll be good enough because and what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying there, I'm talking about O'Shaughnessy Koyak, Swam and Josh Oliver,

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Speaker 1: the rookie draft pick from San Jose stated, I think

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Speaker 1: those are the four guys that you really look to.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the other other guy that I'm kind of

705
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Speaker 1: curious to see is he's wearing number eighty six and

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00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: his name is Michael Clubial Clubial, and we don't have

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Speaker 1: He's not the guy he's not on the pronunciation guy,

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Speaker 1: so I apologize. He's a rookie from UCF, but he's

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Speaker 1: kind of that tight ends slash fullback because he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the tight end size. He's got more fullback size,

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Speaker 1: but he's not thick like a fullback. So you know what.

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Speaker 1: Listening to John D. Flippo the other day, he said

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Speaker 1: that was something that you might see in this offense

714
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Speaker 1: a little more, the tight ends coming back in the

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Speaker 1: backfield before snaps, and then they'd love to see some

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Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff that could be, that mold

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00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: could be, could be. But I mean, I really like

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Speaker 1: what I've seen so far Josh Oliver, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: expect anything different because Josh Oliver, when you watched his

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Speaker 1: college film, he's got speed, he's got sized, he's got

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Speaker 1: great hands, and so he's showing you all about that

722
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Speaker 1: out there and what Doug Roan calls pajamas, which is

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Speaker 1: the O T A S. And there's no pads. So

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Speaker 1: the only thing or the area that I want to

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Speaker 1: see Josh Oliver and is when the pads come on,

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Speaker 1: the hitting starts, and then he needs to block to

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Speaker 1: be able to stay on the field because here's the reality.

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Speaker 1: If you play tight end and you can't block, you

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Speaker 1: can't get on the field. And I'm not talking about

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Speaker 1: just try to block. You need to block effectively. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to dominate, but you have to be an

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Speaker 1: effective blocker. That's the weakness with Josh Oliver. If you

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Speaker 1: watch his college tape, he wasn't exactly a a super

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Speaker 1: physical blocker at San Jose State and doesn't get any

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Speaker 1: easier to go from San Jose State to playing at

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Speaker 1: this level. Well, they needed him run down the field

737
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Speaker 1: there too. I mean he was like the only option

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Speaker 1: they needed a block too, and it was needed a

739
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Speaker 1: lot of things at San Jose at times. At times JP,

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Speaker 1: I'll draw this comparison. When you would watch in Gowquay

741
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Speaker 1: at Maryland play the run, there were times that it

742
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Speaker 1: was not very impressive and borderline kind of embarrassing. When

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Speaker 1: you watch Josh Oliver block at San Jose State, there

744
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: were times that looked not that impressive and at times

745
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Speaker 1: bordering on embarrassing. It can't improve, though, And the reason

746
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: I bring up that comparison is because where have we

747
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Speaker 1: seen in Gowckway go in his three years as a pro.

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Speaker 1: We went from being not very good to being a

749
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Speaker 1: little bit better to being pretty good last year. So

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Speaker 1: if if Josh Oliver can make the same progression, because

751
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Speaker 1: some people believe that if the dog doesn't have a bite,

752
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Speaker 1: he'll never he'll never or learned to bite, you know

753
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Speaker 1: what I mean, because some you never heard that turn,

754
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: I've heard that kind of like it. Sometimes people say

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Speaker 1: you can't teach a dog to bite. Well, clearly if

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Speaker 1: you look at in Gockway, and I'm not saying that

757
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: he wouldn't bite, because at Maryland there were times that

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00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: he did against the run. But you can teach a

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Speaker 1: guy to block, and you can make him an effective blocker,

760
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Speaker 1: and at the at the very least you got to

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00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: make him a willing blocker. So hopefully the progression will

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Speaker 1: happen for him. Because if you want all the matchups

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Speaker 1: that you look for when you have a tight end

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Speaker 1: and is it a mismatch of Patriots decided to run

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Speaker 1: the ball in Gronkowski is blocking to Shaun Gibson. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but it's is it a mismatch for or the Patriots

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Speaker 1: when Shaun Gibson is covering ground? I mean, that's kind

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Speaker 1: of an even deal right there. You know. So you're

774
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: always looking for the best mismatch, and the best mismatch

775
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: you can get with the tight end is one of

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Speaker 1: defense believes that that tight end is first and foremost

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Speaker 1: So they always concerned themselves with him and his ability

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Speaker 1: as a blocker, and then secondly with his ability as

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. So if you're gonna get that focus

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Speaker 1: the second part. Let's come back. We're gonna delve into

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Speaker 1: big fan of like studying what makes people good and

854
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Speaker 1: everything like that. From the offseason approaching, Uh, I got

855
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Speaker 1: a trainer with me. Now he works on me every day. Um, besides,

856
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: I was just working out training, training with other guys. Uh.

857
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: You know, I got another kid on the way, so

858
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: that's been kind of tough with that, getting married, and

859
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, I'm learning how much of a job it is,

860
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, with mayor. So it's just that helps me

861
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: out with my patience and everything. So it was a

862
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: lot this offseason, but I'm grateful for It's a j

863
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: boy earlier this week discussing his off season, what's been

864
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: happening so far? You've been a busy man, yes, and

865
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: he's here for Chiers. Last year he was not around

866
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: for his father was was sick and helped him through

867
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: that and father's well now, which is great news. So

868
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: a J boy back in the fold this offseason. Good

869
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: to see him around here. Good player. I wanted. I'd

870
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: like to see him go back, which is I don't

871
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: want to say. Look, two years ago, he was fantastic.

872
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: There was the best corner duo in the league. Easy,

873
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: well you could you could make you could have made

874
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: the argument two years ago that he was better than Jalen. Seriously,

875
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: the rating wise, he was better than jail And two

876
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: years ago, which him and jail And were right there

877
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: at you know, the top cornerbacks in the league rating wise,

878
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: passer rating against, they were clearly one and two and

879
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: Jalen was number two to a J. So last year

880
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: I thought A J's game took a step back, which

881
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: I didn't expect him to play at that level, that

882
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 1: where he was at two years ago, but you wanted

883
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: it to be closer, and he went from being if

884
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: you look at PFFS rankings, you know he was one

885
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: to one two somewhere all the way throughouteen he was

886
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: in the twenties. That's a pretty significant step back. He

887
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: was still pretty good, but he can be better than

888
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: what he was at SOD be nice to see him

889
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: back at that level. And for a guy who really

890
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: who's undrafted when he came in the league. Two of

891
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: the better corners in the league, Chris Harris, I believe,

892
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: was he undrafted two of the Denver Broncos and he

893
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: was a late round pick or something like that, I believe.

894
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: But you're talking about two of the best corner corners

895
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: in the league that we're not highly drafted, like a

896
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. But Chris Harris, congratulations to him. He just

897
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: got a contract, essentially a bump and pay on his

898
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: one year remaining contract he was I think it was

899
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be I will make like ten million or

900
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: something like that. Now he's bumped up to fifteen or

901
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: something in that ring. John Elway essentially just did that

902
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: without having to do that, which I think is a

903
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: pretty classy moved by the Broncos organization. Chris Harris fantastic

904
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: undrafted Kansas Yes, um uh. The Jaguars get ready for

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908
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Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Let's go around the National Football League,

909
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: shall we and get to some of the biggest headlines

910
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: at least of this week. I don't know if there's

911
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: really news on this front yet. NFLPA Executive director j

912
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: mar Smith is warning agents to plan for a work

913
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: stoppage the union. Quote advising players to plan for a

914
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: work stoppage of at least a year in length end quote.

915
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: How could that happen? Well? For let me read an

916
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: article and this is This is essentially a snippet from

917
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: Lizmullen in The Sports Business Daily and reported on Tuesday morning.

918
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: The nfl PA executive director to Marise Smith sent an

919
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: email to all the agents of NFL players containing advice

920
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: they should give to their clients. And this is what

921
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: he said. Quote, with a possible work stoppage less than

922
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: two years away, this is the opportune time to set

923
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: up a structure and organize savings and budgeting plan with

924
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: your clients end quote, And he continued, I can't stress

925
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: enough the importance of having our player members in a

926
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: sound financial situation should a work stoppage occur. We are

927
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: advising players to plan for a work stoppage of at

928
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: least a year in length. We are also encouraging, if

929
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: people listen close, we are also encouraging all players to

930
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: say fifty pc of their salary and bonuses and to

931
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: say the entirety of their performance based pay amounts they

932
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: should earn over the next two regular seasons. Okay, when

933
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: I read that, I laughed. Why. Well, first and foremost,

934
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: you're encouraging your NFL constituents, your players to save fifty

935
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: of their salary and bonuses and then the entirety of

936
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: their performance based pays amounts because there's a potential work

937
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: stoppage coming soon. Well what, why aren't you encouraging your

938
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: players to save more than that without a work stoppage coming.

939
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard the executive

940
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: director of the union say since he's been in that position.

941
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: So you're saying they should say this anyway? Should they

942
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: should be saving more than fifty if they're expecting a

943
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: work stoppage to occur, they should be preaching to his

944
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: constituencies that they should be saving more than fifty of

945
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: their salary if they're not acting to work stoppage, so

946
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: that they can save money so that when they're done playing,

947
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: they've got money that will last them the rest of

948
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: their life. This is about trying to educate your players

949
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: and teaching them how to save money with or without

950
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: a work stoppage. And for him to say that, say

951
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: fifty now because we might have a work stoppage coming,

952
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: what he should be saying is, look, are a player

953
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: should be saving a ton of money and we should

954
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: be saving well over fifty if we are going to

955
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: have a work stoppage expected. But I mean, I just

956
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: think that that's embarrassing because I mean, look, let's look

957
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: at the numbers. Yea, here's the the National Football League

958
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: minimum salaries. Okay, these are for undrafted guys. No signing bonus.

959
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: You come in the league, you get nothing, right, you're undrafted,

960
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: first year minimum salary to be on an active rosters fos. Okay,

961
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: so let's just think about you. You're an undrafted rookie,

962
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: we have a work stoppage coming in. If you saved

963
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: fifty of your after tax income, a four thousand dollars.

964
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 1: Would you like to say fifty of that or maybe more?

965
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: Probably more right, I'd like to spend something. I'd like

966
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: to enjoy my time. But you after taxes, let's just

967
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: say that there's three hundred thousand left. You think you

968
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: could you gotta spend a hundred fifty thousand dollars in

969
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: a year? Yeah? Probably not. Okay, y're two minimum five seventy.

970
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: But now just guys buy different guys want to buy.

971
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: These are minimums. That's fine, they can buy a house.

972
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: But but also, if you're expecting the potential work stoppage,

973
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: you need to make sure that you buy a house

974
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: that the money that you put away you can help

975
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: pay for that when there is a work stoppage. You're

976
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: three minimum seven hundred twenty thousand dollars. When you're in

977
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: years four through six, it's eight hundred and five thousand dollars.

978
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: So you're seven through thousand dollars. When you're ten plus,

979
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: which very few guys get to ten plus years, that's

980
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: over a million. My point is is that the executive

981
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: director encouraging players to save only fifty with a potential

982
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: work stoppage coming up is embarrassing. He should be telling

983
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: people to save a heck of a lot more than that,

984
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: and he should be encouraging his players to save a

985
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: heck of a lot more than that, whether work stoppage

986
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: is coming or not. I just think it's surprising, it's

987
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: almost embarrassing that he would put it at because of

988
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: work stoppage is coming. Would there ever be a full

989
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: year stoppage? Oh? Absolutely, would they ever. My whole point

990
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: here has nothing to do with potential labor strife aside.

991
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the leader of the union of trying

992
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: to educate his constituents into say about about saving money period.

993
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: And he's trying to say that, you know, you may

994
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: go two years without any money, so you better say

995
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: fifty percent. Wait a minute, when when there's a lot

996
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: of guys that are making so jp. If you're making

997
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: let's say five million a year, okay, you're a you're

998
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: a low mid level player in the nash Football League.

999
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: Let's say you're making three million a year. Do you

1000
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: think you can get by by saving or only having

1001
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: three million to spend? I think I could make it.

1002
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: It's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. He

1003
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: should be encouraging players to live well below their means

1004
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: and saving money anyway, all right, So that point aside,

1005
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: and it's a valid point, I believe would they ever

1006
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: cancel a season when nobody wants to cancel the season

1007
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: if the if the if it becomes so much The

1008
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: owners have put out some information recently two different reporters

1009
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: or or avenues that have painted a bright picture that

1010
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: there will be some type of an extension to the

1011
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: current UM labor agreement that is in place, and I

1012
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: think Demur Smith is trying to kind of counteract that

1013
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: so that he takes the comfort zone away from the players,

1014
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: which he didn't have to talk about the saving money part.

1015
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: All he had to do is come out and say, look,

1016
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: our players need to save money because they should expect

1017
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: a possible work stoppage of a year or two coming soon.

1018
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: So saving money now is imperative. But I just don't

1019
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: and not so I understand why he's doing it now.

1020
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: His his verbiage that he used was was a joke.

1021
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: But I get that he's trying to counteract the complacency

1022
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: within his union so that they're prepared in case it

1023
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: does happen. And he's also trying to counteract the good

1024
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: feelings about where they're going, because look, it may go

1025
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: it may go well, and it may not go well.

1026
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 1: I would like to think that at some point, cooler

1027
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 1: heads will prevail, and I think I think it's gonna

1028
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: get done. Don't don't make any mistakes season by the

1029
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: after exactly because right now, the Collective Barney Agreement goes

1030
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: for this year nineteen and then twin me and there's

1031
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: actually there's guidelines of minimum salaries that are in place

1032
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: going to pass, but it can't really be instituted yet

1033
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: because there is no collective bargaining agreement. It spot if

1034
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: you sign a rookie JP, just like the Jaguar signed

1035
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and you only have two years of a

1036
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: collective bargaining agreement left, which is nineteen and twenty, you

1037
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: still put in to not just Josh Allen because he's

1038
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: obviously way over the minimum, but there's some guys that

1039
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: you picked up and you signed them in a three

1040
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: or four year deals. So there's guidelines that the league

1041
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: has given out for minimum salaries beyond twenty, which is

1042
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: the end of the collective bargaining agreement. So but I

1043
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: think that everything is going to get extended. I think

1044
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: there will be tweaks and adjustments to a lot of

1045
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: different parts of the collective bargaining agreement. But I just

1046
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm just disappointed in the executive director of the Union

1047
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: because you hear here so many stories, and I've seen

1048
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: so many stories as a player and as a guy

1049
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: that's been around the game for a long time, with

1050
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: players walking away from the game with with next to

1051
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: nothing or very little money. But here we have and

1052
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: they have an executive director who I think is living

1053
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: in fantasy land about how he's telling players to save money.

1054
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: It sounds like you want to be an executive directors.

1055
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: It sounds like, well, I can tell you one thing, JP,

1056
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be talking about, say fifty of your money.

1057
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: I would be talking about saving a heck of a

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Speaker 1: lot more than that, and for a lot different reasons.

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Speaker 1: And I say I said that in a jokey manner,

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Speaker 1: but this is close to It's very close to me

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Speaker 1: because I look, I've worked. I worked very hard as

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Speaker 1: a player and as a vice president Union to try

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Speaker 1: to make sure that you edc We educated our players

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Speaker 1: into learning how to save money. And that's why I'm

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Speaker 1: a big fan of teams that have the the financial

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Speaker 1: planning seminars with their rookies and with their players. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I give credit to San Francisco forty Niners.

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Speaker 1: They're always one of the last teams in the league

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Speaker 1: to sign their rookies because they want to hold the

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Speaker 1: financial planning seminars with their rookies before they signed their contracts.

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Speaker 1: And uh, and I think that's a positive thing. I

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Speaker 1: think that the league needs to do a better job

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Speaker 1: in the Union in particular, more so, needs to do

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Speaker 1: a better job of educating their players on on money

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Speaker 1: management and how to save money so that these guys

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Speaker 1: when they walk away from the game, they've got something

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Speaker 1: to take with them. All right, looks well done, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me get off my pod. It's quite okay. It

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Speaker 1: was very informative. Thank you and thank you for your

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Speaker 1: opinion on that. We appreciate it. Coming up tomorrow, O

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Speaker 1: t A number six. Yes, the Jaguars are back in

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Speaker 1: the practice field tomorrow. Yeah. Are you sure about that? Friday? Yeah? Okay,

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Speaker 1: there was one last Friday too, well, I know that

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Speaker 1: I was there. Yeah, So we'll be there tomorrow. Um.

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Speaker 1: And then of course Lionel Richie coming up Saturday at

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Speaker 1: Daily's place. Um, thanks Tony was Sally for joining us

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Speaker 1: on the phone earlier. Brent reaver Back doing the video,

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Speaker 1: Joe Fortunado, our entire crew for Jeff Lockman. I'm j P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: Will see you next time A Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm

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Speaker 1: a Jaguars Digital Network