1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Happy Monday to you. Maybe a vacation for a lot 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: of people. Is the Christmas holidays just a couple of 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: days away? Merry Christmas? Do you carry rhads? 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas? 8 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Do you? 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Dan? 10 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: Carrie and I got together yesterday during all the week 11 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: sixteen action, and my how things have changed even with 12 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: the games happening less than twenty four hours ago, including 13 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: this drama in Motown between DK Metcalf and the Detroit 14 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: Lions fan Jason Stewart. This year, Iowa Sam hanging out, 15 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: as is Isaac lohencrom Have you heard about trainer games? Carrie? 16 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: Add this to your binge list. Ten athletes go head 17 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: to head for the chance to win an iFIT trainer 18 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: contract with two hundred and fifty thousand dollars streaming on 19 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: Prime Video starting January eighth. You don't sign up, I'll 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: watch it. Maybe a little too late right now? You 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: know who else is fit? Dk Metcalf? 22 00:00:59,160 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: He is right. 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: Metcalf really came onto the NFL stage with that side 24 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: by side picture of him and aj Brown flexing in 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: the weight room. Right like that was the emergence of 26 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf, before he ever stepped onto an NFL field, 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: You then have DK Metcalf. One of the lasting images 28 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: of DK Metcalf is chasing down Buddha Baker because he's 29 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: running down the sidelines in Arizona as a member of 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: the Seahawks. The DK Metcalf chases down Buddha Baker, and 31 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: we talk about the speed, and we talk about the 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: hustle and the desire of DK Metcalf. Unfortunately, this year 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: we've been talking a lot about what's the deal with 34 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf, And now we have quite a deal with 35 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf as he got in the face of a 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: Lions fan during yesterday's game in Detroit, and now it's 37 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 2: gotten to the point where the fan has hired a lawyer. 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: NFL insiders are weighing in all from a game that 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: we should be talking about how the Steelers stole from 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: the Lions and went into Detroit and grabbed the victory 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: to ensure you're their tight grasp on the AFC North 42 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: that they have right now. But we aren't talking about that. 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: We're talking about DK and this fan. 44 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was. It was a crazy moment. 45 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: We were we were actually here in the building and 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: doing some work and watching some of the games, and 47 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 4: I know we were going through a conversation and I 48 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 4: saw it flash in front of my eyes as it 49 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 4: was happening live, and I. 50 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: Was like, oh, that's not good. 51 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: DK Metcalf and then obviously I think the conversation kind 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: of went along a little further with me and you 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 4: and you were like, I think that that fan probably 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: did something, you know, like if the fan did something, 55 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 4: I can understand it, but not in the not in 56 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: DK's actions. Obviously, you don't attack a fan, but these 57 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 4: fans are getting really brash and they're getting a little 58 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: bit out of pocket and some of the things they're saying, 59 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 4: and so the fact that there's no live mike in 60 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 4: the area to hear what's what's being said, really I 61 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: have to kind of reserve judgment, but I want to 62 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: hear what you got, what you think about it day. 63 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: Well, I told you yesterday that I thought that if 64 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: you're a fan that yells something to a player that 65 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: forces them to respond to you, especially during game action, 66 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: yeah you're a loser. It is if you have I 67 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 2: understand getting under somebody's skin by saying maybe they went 68 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: three for twenty from the field. Yeah, but if you 69 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: say something that gets under the skin of a player 70 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: and that player responds in a certain way, I think 71 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: that you've got to find better things to do as 72 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: a fan. 73 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 4: And see that's my and that's what we disagree, because 74 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: there is a moment of me as a player, right, 75 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: I've people have said all kinds of things, right, and 76 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: it doesn't bother me. But you know, and so I 77 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: will say, like, as a player, you can't be sensitive 78 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 4: in those moments or no, obviously I told you you 79 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: can't react in those moments. You're trying to win a 80 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: big game and you gotta be focused on that. The 81 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: next series. What did he do? He came out and 82 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: dropped a little simple dig route, right, like you got 83 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: to be locked in. 84 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: Now, it depends on what they said. 85 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: What he said thoughing, and there are some circumstances about 86 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 4: around what he said. 87 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: That isn't that isn't clear. 88 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: Now what the fan said was that he said DK 89 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: Metcalf's government name. I thought he said as Kyles was small. 90 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: Oh he didn't say that. He said DK may have 91 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: gone up into the stands if that was the case. 92 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 2: But the fan claims that he was calling him de Kaylin. 93 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 2: It's the Carrius Metcalf, which was his That's what DK 94 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: stands for, and that's what DK was upset about. That 95 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: was the fans side of things. I don't believe that. 96 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: You don't you don't believe that. No, you don't think 97 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 2: that he was just saying that. You know, like when 98 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook was called west Brick and he stood up 99 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 2: for himself and he stood up for his name, which 100 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: I can understand, Like I'm proud of my name. You 101 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: should be proud of your name. Russell Westbrook is it's 102 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: it's his family name. It's his you know, his family 103 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: that he has, his family that came before him. Stand 104 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: up for it. I've been known to make silly puns 105 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: on names, but ultimately just ingest I I feel like 106 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: this was a part of that. So while I say 107 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: that if you're a fan, that makes another player respond, 108 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: this is a really really low boss, This is a 109 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: really really low bar. So I was waiting to hear 110 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: more and then we started to hear more. Carry Rhoads 111 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: and this is what something just doesn't smell right. This 112 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: was Chad Ocho Sinko with Shannon Sharp I'm the Nightcap 113 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: talking about the interaction and what Ocho heard was said 114 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: to DK Metcalf. 115 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 5: I got word obviously, I'm knocking, doning, you know, putting 116 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 5: your hands on the fan or punching the fan. But 117 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: he did call a racial slurry, called him in word, 118 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 5: and he did call his mama. And I think with 119 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 5: those words be in exchanged and the fans saying that, 120 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 5: I think that's where the action, you know, occurred, where 121 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 5: he threw I think he threw a punch. I'm not 122 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 5: sure if he connected or or whatever. But he did 123 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 5: call him then in word, and he called his mama. 124 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 2: See word you say the sea word ojo. 125 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 5: Oh my bad. 126 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: That's bad, yes, bad, terror, It's terrible. 127 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 2: Okay, is that bad? I can't take any of my femotion. 128 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: I actually think like that's like the new number one. 129 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: It's right, like like of of you know, I mean, yeah, 130 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: but there's none of this was said. I am sorry 131 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: there that that did not happen, That relaying of events 132 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: did not happen. The fan has actually now gotten representation, 133 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: has hired a lawyer and vehemently denies what chad Ocho 134 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: Cinco said that the fan said to DK Metcalf, Do 135 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: you believe o Cho Sinko or do you believe this 136 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: fan who says he never said it. 137 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: I don't believe either one. 138 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 4: I think there's something in the middle because if he reacted, 139 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 4: if DK reacted the way he react with the fan 140 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 4: quote unquote saying his full name, and he reacted that way, 141 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 4: that doesn't sit well with me. But also on the 142 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: other end of that as well, if that fan said 143 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: the racial slur and called the mom the other thing, 144 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 4: he would have reacted even bigger than that. And so 145 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: if it's somewhere in the middle, and I don't think 146 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 4: we'll ever actually know until they handle this in court. 147 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: Yes, And that's why I think it's now starting to 148 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: become a cover up for DK Metcalf, because now you're 149 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: hearing all these stories that are coming out. This is 150 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: a fan who dressed up in a blue wig, all. 151 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: Right, this is right. 152 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: This is a guy who has fifty yard line seats 153 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: as well at Lions games, and you think that he's 154 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: going to spend the thousands upon thousands of dollars to 155 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: yell these hateful things at players on the opposing bench. 156 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: He probably pays the money to call him by his 157 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: government name. It's probably what he does. And yesterday when 158 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: we were here, I thought, man, that's garbage from the 159 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: fan for whatever he said to me. DK Metcalf, and 160 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: I am completely Now on the other side, I think 161 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: that DK Metcalf and the Steelers and these sources that 162 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: are going to NFL insiders are now trying to concoct 163 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: this story that this fan said this vicious thing the 164 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf, that DK had to respond in the only 165 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: way that he could, and that is to physically throw 166 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: a slap, punch, whatever it was, towards the fan because 167 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: of how egregious of the things that the fan said. 168 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: And when I look at the video and I see 169 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 2: the fans around two seats away, as a boy in 170 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: a Santa camp An Alliance Santa caap, his mom is 171 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: sitting between him and the fan. I don't know if 172 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: they're together. I have no idea. No one responded in 173 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: a way where if you were to hear those words 174 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: that they claim that he said, everybody is just sitting there. 175 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: I guarantee you say that stuff at a football game, 176 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: that there are people around that would gladly point out 177 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: that fan for sure. And now the NFL machine is 178 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: trying to concoct this story that DK Metcalf is not 179 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: only a victim because of what was said, that this 180 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: fan also said things to him last year when he 181 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: was a member of the Seahawks. And I just I 182 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: don't think this fan is like, you know what, I 183 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 2: didn't get under his skin enough last year, let me 184 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 2: use some racial slurs and just completely totally insult his mother. 185 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 2: I just don't think that that's not reality. And that's 186 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: the thing that now annoys me about this is I 187 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: hated that the fan did this, and now I see 188 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: how thinn a skin Dk Metcalf has. It's completely bogus 189 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Wade receivers part. 190 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: Damn. 191 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: Just letting you know it right now. You're sitting really 192 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: you're sitting like arms length away from me. If you 193 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: call me Carrie Dwayne Road, that's a problem. Just so 194 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 4: you understand that. Yeah, Sam Jason, I think guys hear this. 195 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 4: Just make sure you guys are aware. But no, I 196 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 4: mean when you talk about DK, were talking about DK 197 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 4: in it situating Dan I got said for me as 198 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: a player and being a former player, like these things happened, 199 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: and so the racial slur, whatever the thing is, whatever 200 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: happened in that moment, it still doesn't warrant him putting 201 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: his hands on him. And so for me, it's just 202 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: it's all bogus. And then when you talk about the 203 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: Nightcap and you talk about Oto and those guys, like 204 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: you can't take Oto series for anything, he says, anyway, 205 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: so you just got to kind of, you know, move along. 206 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: I agree, well, I agree to some sense, but there 207 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: is a weight in who Ocho Cinco is. He's a 208 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: former player and so now in that circles and he 209 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: has the platform to do so this is this is crazy. 210 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, our executive producer. We've also seen this before 211 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: at times, but I just I have a tough time 212 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: believing that that's actually what was said to DK Metcalf. 213 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 6: I do too, And maybe as a middle aged white guy, 214 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 6: I shouldn't have an opinion on this, but you would 215 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 6: think after the whole Jesse Smolette thing, hm hmm, combined 216 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 6: with the Miles Garrett thing from twenty nineteen where that 217 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 6: was never even resolved, Like, I can't imagine that Mason 218 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 6: Rudolph said that, and it is still a quarterback in 219 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 6: the NFL. Like, so when you have these allegations, it 220 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 6: does much more harm to the actual real allegations. And 221 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 6: that's that's the problem I have with this. If they're 222 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 6: playing this card, and I think you do leave the 223 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 6: kind of zaniness of Ocho Sinko, like Carry said, he's 224 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 6: not to be taken seriously. 225 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: Maybe this is a thing. 226 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 6: But I do agree with Dan there somebody is trying 227 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 6: to mitigate the punishment. The Steelers have very important games 228 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 6: coming up to lose DK Metcalf, the punishment will be 229 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 6: less severe if everyone buys this version of the story. 230 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 4: That's true, non and the other part about it we 231 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 4: don't know, right, Like, think about all the cameras, all 232 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: the mics, all the hot mics that are on an 233 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: NFL field, right the quarterbacks. The quarterback usually has a 234 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 4: headset or a camera that that that they communicate with 235 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: with the coaches and all that stuff. And you didn't 236 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: hear about the racist slur from Mason Rudolph never came out. 237 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 4: But with that one being on the sideline, it's just 238 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: like the prime spot where there's almost like the blind 239 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: spot of audio and media NetSpot. 240 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: How many of your teammates if they heard somebody yelling 241 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: those things about you and your family, how many of 242 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: your teammates would step up on that response. Yes, there 243 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: wasn't one teammate even close. There weren't eight or nine 244 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: guys pointing that to him, get him out of here, 245 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: or eight guys wanting to climb the wall and take 246 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 2: care of their own business. It's one guy. And the 247 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: funny thing is is I I really like Tom Pallisero 248 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: of the NFL network. I think that he does a 249 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: great job. But he was the one that set out 250 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 2: this tweet that said DK Metcalf had a history with 251 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: this fan dating back to last year. That's all adding 252 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: to this narrative and the story that it's not DK 253 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 2: Metcalf's fault. If I'm Ryan Kennedy and by the way, 254 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: that's the fan's name. If I'm Ryan Kennedy, yeah, I 255 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: am hiring a lawyer like it's now it's I mean, 256 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 2: he's bringing a knife to a gunfight. If now the 257 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: NFL and the Pittsburgh Steelers and all these other people 258 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 2: are coming at him saying that he's the one that 259 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: did wrong. I again, there's a line with fans, I think. 260 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: But now you see how the NFL and the Steelers 261 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 2: are trying to spin it. It just it stinks like it. 262 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 2: It's really a bad look and I don't believe a 263 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: word of it from from DK Metcalf or any of 264 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: the people that want to spread this narrative. 265 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree with that point. I don't think 266 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 4: that's what was said. And also when I agree with 267 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 4: the fan bringing, you know, hiring a lawyer and lawyering up, 268 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: because this is now if he didn't say that, becoming 269 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: a defamation thing, right, So he has to do something 270 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: to protect himself. 271 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 2: A source close to Metcalf says the fan called Metcalf's 272 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: mom a derogatory word, and that was also what Osho 273 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 2: Sinko said. So this was from Yahoo Sports. So again 274 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: they're trying to trying to build a band a little, 275 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: spin a little. It's going one hundred and fifty miles 276 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: an hour on icy road? 277 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 3: Icy road? Is it icy? Yeah? 278 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: Crazy? Patriots come back beate the Ravens last night? Who care? 279 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: Steelers and Aaron Rodgers somehow survived the Lions in that game? Yeah, 280 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: who cares? But this is what we're talking about. He 281 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: has Carry Roads. I'm Dan Bayer. That is Jason Stewart 282 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: Iowa SAMs here as as a glowing Crown hit carry 283 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: up at Kerry twenty five Roads. 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Cela Malinan, 290 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: Alissa lou and Amber Glen compete at the twenty twenty 291 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: six privag in US Figure Skating Championships January seventh through eleventh. 292 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: Be there as the twenty twenty sixth US Olympic Figure 293 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: Skating team is named Alive tickets at US figure Skating 294 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: dot org. You're a good ice skater. No cannot ice skates. 295 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: Thought about taking it up at the ripe old age 296 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: of forty eight, but never could. It was always moon 297 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: boots on the ice when I was a kid. That's 298 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: what it was. 299 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, can you skate? 300 00:14:59,640 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: I can't. 301 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I'm not doing any triple That's why 302 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: you asked. I want you to. I want you to 303 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: set me up. 304 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 6: Come on, dang. 305 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: The Ravens could not skate by the Patriots last night, 306 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: losing to Baltimore, and they also lost quarterback Lamar Jackson 307 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: again and ultimately lost season for the Ravens. I don't 308 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: know if they really think. 309 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: I know this for a fact. 310 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: The city of Baltimore knows they're not going to win 311 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: the AFC North. Maybe the only people who believe that 312 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: they still have a chance of the people in that building, 313 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: and that is not uncommon. But when Lamar Jackson goes 314 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: down now with a back injury, after dealing with his 315 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: hamstring injury earlier this season, and after being seemingly limited 316 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: when he came back from the hamstring injury, just an 317 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: absolutely lost season for the Baltimore Ravens on the heels 318 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: of two absolutely epic performances by Lamar in twenty twenty 319 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: three in twenty twenty four. And now you wonder what 320 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: the future holds because Derrick Henry is Derrick Henry. The 321 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: defense is missing a lot of pieces rough times with 322 00:15:58,640 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens. 323 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a very disappointing season. Obviously, come into 324 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 4: the year, I think they were their odds. I would 325 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 4: say they were high on a lot of people's list 326 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 4: of being the representative of the AFC. And then you 327 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: come out and you play that first game against Buffalo, 328 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: and it looks like that they are that team. And 329 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: then that fourth quarter against Buffalo that told the rest 330 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 4: of this season for the Baltimore Ravens. They imploded it 331 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. They've been known for having implosions, 332 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 4: even in the years when Lamar was great, and so 333 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: to come into a season where him he hasn't played 334 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: like the Lamar that we've seen the last couple of years. 335 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: Could it be injury, could it be other things? 336 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 337 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: I would probably tend to say it's more injury than 338 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: anything else because of just recent history. But this team 339 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: isn't put together well. Their star players never show up 340 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: in the big moments. They always have negative moments in 341 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: the big moments. And so when you add all that up, 342 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: and then you talk about John Harball, him being the 343 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: guy that's leading this group. In my opinion, I never 344 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 4: talk about coaches being fired, but I think for him 345 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 4: this is probably his last run as well, or it 346 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: should be. And you got to bring in new blood. 347 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 4: You got to bring in the fresh a different voice 348 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 4: for that locker room. And they still have some players 349 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: that can play and be of great service in the league. 350 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 4: But it's going to be it's it's an appill climb. 351 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: I also think you're just gonna see Lamar Jackson be 352 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: a different quarterback than he was the first portion of 353 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: his career. 354 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: That's just be honest. 355 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: He's not gonna be fast as fast as he was 356 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: when he was twenty three and twenty four years old. Like, 357 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: there are decisions that the Ravens are going to have 358 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: to make. Let's ask a guy who's been in that 359 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: chair before one that Eric de coostin the Ravens organization 360 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: is going to have to decide. Former NFLGM and the 361 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: Chargers and Raiders Tom Telesco joins us here on Fox 362 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. First of all, Tom, welcome in, Glad to 363 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: have you, and we'll put you in the hot seat 364 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: right away. Like is this a rebuild? Is this a 365 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: teardown thing with the Ravens? How do the Ravens get 366 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: back to being the Ravens that we know of old? 367 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 7: Well, thanks for having me on again, and yeah, I'm 368 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 7: used to being in the This is nothing new. This 369 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 7: was a heck of a lot easier than being in 370 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 7: the GM hot speet. But yeah, I was just listening 371 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 7: a little bit before I came on, and I do 372 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 7: prescribe this theory. I think Kearley, what you said, like, 373 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 7: you can't be somewhere for too long as a head 374 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 7: coach as a general manager, sometimes your your boy starts 375 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 7: to not have to have the same impact. But to me, 376 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 7: like John Harbaugh is no worse coach now than he ever. 377 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 7: I mean, he's still a very good coach. You just 378 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 7: don't change overnight. They have a great program there this year, 379 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 7: and it just they got hit by injury so hard 380 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 7: early on this season and they just never recovered from that. 381 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 7: It just seemed like just so many things went wrong 382 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 7: the typically don't go wrong with them, and it's hard 383 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 7: to put your finger on it. I thought they had 384 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 7: one of the best rosters in the league going into 385 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 7: the season, I will say during the year, and he 386 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 7: finally saw some of the last night on offense where 387 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 7: they were spreading the ball around a little more than 388 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 7: just relying on Derrick Henry running the ball and then 389 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 7: throwing it as they flowered out in the slot. So 390 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 7: because they have some players. 391 00:18:59,440 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: They've got. 392 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 7: Mark Andrews is a very good tight end, Charlie Colar 393 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 7: got a couple of targets. They don't have a lot 394 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 7: at the outside receiver, you know, Hopkins has towards the end, 395 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 7: and Bateman, you know, there's some games he just doesn't 396 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 7: get a lot of action. They just really complete lands 397 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 7: these flowers. But they did spread around a little bit 398 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 7: more last night. The defenses has been up and down. 399 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 7: A lot of it's just been injury based. But I 400 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 7: just think John Hobba is an excellent head coach. Todd 401 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 7: Munkin is a really good offensive coordinator that has taken 402 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 7: this offense forward. But this year for whatever reason, you know, 403 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 7: and injuries are part of it, not the whole thing, 404 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 7: but they just couldn't not get things going to And. 405 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 4: That's when you know as a GM and as a 406 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: as a former player myself, I mean, you get in 407 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 4: these locker rooms and you know you have talent, and 408 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 4: I think when you think about the Baltimore Ravens, I 409 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: just think about them having top end talent. I don't 410 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 4: think they have a super talented roster. I think they 411 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 4: have good top end talent, but I don't think they 412 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: have the guys that throughout an NFL season, you know 413 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: you're going to have injury, right, and so you have 414 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 4: to prepare for that. And I just don't think that's 415 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: the case. And if that is the case, then it 416 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 4: has to be some coaching issues or something that's happening 417 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 4: in the functionality of that team as well. 418 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, well, you certainly may be right, and you know, 419 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 7: maybe a lot of us, like myself, when I looked 420 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 7: at the team going to the year, I thought they 421 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 7: were really talented. I thought theyan a little hole on 422 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 7: the interior defensive line end up being probably a bigger 423 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 7: hole than i'd anticipated. But you know, as you put 424 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 7: the team together, everyone's going to have injuries and it 425 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 7: kind of goes up and down. This year they get 426 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 7: hit more than most, but that's when you have to 427 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 7: have other role players step into bigger roles and play 428 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 7: like starters and take off. And they just didn't get 429 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 7: that this year. 430 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: Former NFL GM Tom Telesco joining us here on Fox 431 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. He's the former All Pro Kerry Rhoads. I'm 432 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: Dan Byer sitting in on Fox Sports Radio. I'm curious 433 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 2: about the Dolphin situation because they let go of Chris 434 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: Greer is their general manager. But then the narrative was 435 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel's going to be back in twenty twenty six. 436 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: Did the Chris, Did the move to Quinn Yours solidify 437 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: that McDaniel is going to be around, because I know 438 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: it was a rough day at his NFL debut, but 439 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 2: Jack Wilson was passed over as possibly being the as 440 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: he was the backup to Tua. Did that move to 441 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: yours tell us that Mike McDaniel's going to be back 442 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 2: next year? 443 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 7: You know, in the month of December when it comes 444 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 7: to head coaches in GM's but certainly head coaches, there's 445 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 7: so much noise out there it's hard to know what's 446 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 7: truthful and what isn't. I like Mike McDaniels. I like 447 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 7: it outside the box thinking. I think he's really did 448 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 7: a great job with his team the second half of 449 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 7: the year, keeping them focused when they were basically out 450 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 7: of it pretty early on. But what I do think 451 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 7: is with the to a decision, if they decide to 452 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 7: move on from him, very similar the way that Broncos 453 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 7: moved down from Russell Wilson, it's going to take up 454 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 7: a big chunk of the salary cap. So the second 455 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 7: part of that has to be your quarterback more than 456 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 7: likely has to be a quarterback on a rookie contractor 457 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 7: or else it's hard to feel the team. You really 458 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 7: can't go out and buy a freeging quarterback to big money, 459 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 7: not that there's one available, so I think, And this 460 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 7: year's draft is a bit thin. So I think part 461 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 7: of this is to see if Quinn yours could be 462 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 7: a guy for next year if we can't find another Courre, 463 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 7: and they got to see what he is, see what 464 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 7: he has. But the fact that he's on a rookie 465 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 7: contract is what really helped salary cap wise, So I 466 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 7: think that was probably a big part of it, to 467 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 7: see what he has in these last couple of games. Yeah, 468 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 7: I mean most ownerships, gms for an offices, you want 469 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 7: to take the whole season, the whole body of work 470 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 7: before you make decisions. I think it's hard to do 471 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 7: that during the season because you're just so emotional week 472 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 7: to week. So let the whole season play out, let 473 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 7: it go from there. And I don't know what's going 474 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 7: to happen there, but they've got a lot of potential 475 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 7: changes on their horizon. 476 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 4: Tom I want to I want to take you to 477 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 4: back to the NFC, and I want to talk about 478 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys. I know they've they've had some moments 479 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: this year. They've been up and down. Obviously, they lose 480 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 4: their top pass rusher where they trade their top pass 481 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 4: rusher and they get some material help and and they 482 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 4: had a moment during the season where it looked pretty 483 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 4: good for them. I'm actually high on what they have 484 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: moving forward. But they also have a big decision with 485 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: George Pickens upcoming. What what do you if you're at 486 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 4: the GM, would you give him what he wanted or 487 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 4: how would you handle that situation? Knowing that they need 488 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: a few more things as well to make this thing 489 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 4: get to where they want. 490 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 3: To ultimately go. 491 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, that is the million dollar, million dollar question going 492 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 7: into the offseason because I love their offense, and their 493 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 7: offenses they scored a ton of points this year and 494 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 7: that's what they relied on because the defense just didn't 495 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 7: quite keep up. 496 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: Uh. 497 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 7: But part of that offense was George Pickens, and George 498 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 7: Pickens has an outstanding year. But is this the type 499 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 7: of player that you want to give a long term 500 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 7: investment to. It's hard you know, looking from the outside, 501 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 7: obviously the Steelers decided that they're going to go a 502 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 7: different direction that wasn't wasn't for them the Cowboys. The 503 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 7: one thing that the Cowboys have that none of us 504 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 7: have is they see him every day in the buildings, 505 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 7: So they have a you know, hopefully a pretty good 506 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 7: evaluation of the person that they want to invest in, 507 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 7: because they've already invested in Ceedee Lamb. That paid Jake Ferguson, 508 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 7: you know, not nic City Lamb type money, but you know, 509 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 7: decent money for a tight end. You know, they have 510 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 7: Dak Presscat's contract, They have a pretty high paid offensive line, 511 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 7: so you have to decide where the money goes. They 512 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 7: need more help on defense, There's no question about that. 513 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 7: George Pickens is a dynamic player. But these are the 514 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 7: tough the tough decisions is this is what gams get 515 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 7: paid for. It's just the guy that you want to 516 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 7: invest that much money in. For me, since I have 517 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 7: CD Lamb, I have Jake Ferguson, I have Dak Prescott, 518 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 7: I probably would use that money other places, either offensive 519 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 7: line or defense moving forward, But again we'll kind of 520 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 7: see where that fits. 521 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: In Tom's Alesco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio 522 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: former GM of the Raiders and Chargers. I understand we're 523 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: all kind of in the same boat. Maybe we haven't 524 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: been paying attention to Jacksonville as much as we should, 525 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: but yesterday was a perfect opportunity, late window, going up 526 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: against the Denver Broncos, hottest team in the National Football League. 527 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: They go in and dominate that game. Is it just 528 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: Liam Cohen or how did things turn around so much 529 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: for Jacksonville in a span of one year? O? 530 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 7: Hey, I'm like you. When I saw them in September 531 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 7: and October, I just wasn't quite a believer yet. And 532 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 7: then against the Charge at one, seven out of last 533 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 7: eight games are all lost to Jacksonville, and Jacksonville blew 534 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 7: them out. And I know the Charges are a good team, 535 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 7: so I'm a believer now. And then we see yesterday 536 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 7: to going to Denver, which is one of the hardest 537 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 7: places to play, and play the way they did it 538 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 7: was just really impressive. And I mean this team, they 539 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 7: have talent there and Liam Cohne is pressing all the 540 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 7: right buttons, and I love the fact that Trevor Lawrence 541 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 7: is really playing at consistent level of football, really decisive 542 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 7: in his decision making. Trevory ten is an excellent running back. 543 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 7: They kind of had a loan in his career, you know, 544 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 7: for a year or two, and he's back to where 545 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 7: he was as a really as a rookie. And then 546 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 7: the Jacoby Myers trade was outstanding and really shrewd move. 547 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 7: And I could see that coming a little bit just 548 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 7: with Edgar Bennett being their receiver coach at Jacksonville. He 549 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 7: was a receiver coach with the Raiders when Jacoby Myers 550 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 7: was there, so there's a familiarity between the two. And 551 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 7: then watching Parker Washington yesterday, I mean, this guy's a stud, 552 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 7: and you know, it was hard for them to lose 553 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 7: Travis Hunter, which was a you know, they put a 554 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 7: lot of accets into Travis Center to draft them. But 555 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 7: the benefit and the positive is this Parker Washington now 556 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 7: gets a lot more snaps and a lot more targets 557 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 7: and he can really play. So their offensive talented. Their 558 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 7: offensive line is very good, and I mean that was 559 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 7: an impressive win, as you're gonna see yesterday against Denver. 560 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: That's the surprising part of me is and this is 561 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: no disrespect to Travis Hunter, but they got very little 562 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: out of Travis Hunter, especially considering they gave up a 563 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: first round pick next year for him. It seems like 564 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: it's they've even done better in spite of that. Like 565 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: imagine if their second overall pick it would have worked out. 566 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: It could have been maybe even better for Jacksonville. 567 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the problem when a player like Kid gets 568 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 7: hurt is you have two DS facility, you got a 569 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 7: phill corner, and he got a full receiver. He has 570 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 7: not easy, especially at that level of talent. But you know, 571 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 7: they they made the trade for Newsom from from Cleveland, 572 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 7: and obviously they traded campbellfore him. But they've been able 573 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 7: to survive and on defensive corner out having Travis Hunter. 574 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 7: But I just think, you know, getting Parker Washington involved 575 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 7: Boar is a benefit. Jacoby Myers is so consistent that 576 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 7: we're out running in hands. And then Brian Thomas, I 577 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 7: know it hasn't had the year usually has. He's still 578 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 7: a dynamic threat. So they've got a lot of a 579 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 7: lot of pieces on offense. 580 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 3: Hey, Tom and Dan, you know what this you know 581 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: what this signifies. I'm glad. 582 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought up the Travis Hunter thing, Dan 583 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 4: Is because the Park of Washington. He gets his chance 584 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 4: to do what he's done his whole life right where 585 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: Travis Hunter. I think with this dogs for Jacksonville, it 586 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: solidifies him as their corner moving forward, and you do 587 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 4: like a package of him on the offense but not 588 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 4: trying to do both ways. 589 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 7: In my opinion, Yeah, this could change moving forward, I think, 590 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 7: and we'll see how it plays out. I mean, Travis 591 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 7: is a dynamic athlete, yep. But when you're you know, 592 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 7: six foot one hundred and eighty five pounds playing both 593 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 7: ways in the NFL for you know, one hundred plus, 594 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 7: that's the game over eighteen weeks, that's just really physically 595 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 7: taxing and you may not reach your ceiling at either 596 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 7: position by doing that. So you know, this could lead 597 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 7: them a different direction. I don't know, We'll see. This 598 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 7: is you know, question for next year. We'll talk about 599 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 7: by all summer. But they have a lot of talent 600 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 7: on the offensive side of the ball, and you know, 601 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 7: this is when when players get hurt, other other players 602 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 7: get an opportunity to step up. And that's a Park 603 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 7: at Washington is done. 604 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: It won't be the last time this season we'll be 605 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: talking about the Jaguars, and when we do, we will 606 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 2: not call that me small market team. Leam Cohen made sure, Yeah, 607 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: made sure. Sean Baiton dow that Tom. We appreciate the time. 608 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: Happy Holiday's Mary Christmas. Talk to you again soon here 609 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 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It's now time for our Tirak play of 636 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: the day. 637 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 8: Fourth and goal for the Lions from the nine ballgame 638 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 8: on the line right here. 639 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: They need the end zone for the win. 640 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: Jared leans in. 641 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 8: There's the snap on fourth down, Jared bat Jared stepping up, 642 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 8: Jared Lookie. 643 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: Throwing end zone. 644 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 8: It is caught by Amen ra shy of the end zone. 645 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 8: He flipped it back to Gough who docked it to 646 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 8: the end zone for the touchdowns. 647 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: There's a flat in figs. Did they rule him down? 648 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 3: Are they gonna say. 649 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 8: Pass interference against Dom and Raw? There's no time left 650 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 8: on the clock. Here comes Carl Scheffers. The officials have 651 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 8: finally broken. We're gonna get the call right here. Is 652 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 8: this game over or not? 653 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's staying on the field. They're really on the field. 654 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: Is a touchdown? 655 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 9: However, runs interferit number fourteen on the offense my rule 656 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 9: that penalty is is not enforced and there is no replay. 657 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 9: The game is over. 658 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: Wow, there is no touchdown OPI or number fourteen. Thegatest 659 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: the penalty. There is no replay. The game is over. 660 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: There is no score. 661 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 7: There is no score. 662 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, that's said a lot of Giants games. 663 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: A one O two point five WDVI Steelers Radio network, 664 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: they were just as confused as we were watching the 665 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: final plays. The Steelers leave Detroit with a twenty nine 666 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: to twenty four victory. Absolute chaos. This just a few 667 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: plays after the Lions had the go ahead touchdown wiped 668 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: out for another offensive pass interference. But a crazy ending 669 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: and the Steelers end up getting the win. You know, 670 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: the only thing I'm worried about right there, or I 671 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: would have been mad about, is his initial comment was 672 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: it's a touchdown. 673 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: On the play. 674 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 4: The whole crowd goes and saying, uh yeah, but yeah, 675 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 4: as no PI as well. 676 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: It's that was insane. 677 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: You know what, I don't know if you guys like this, 678 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: do you guys like pizzazz from your home played umpires? 679 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, you're a you're a baseball fan, a little 680 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: a little behind home played or first base with the 681 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: ring them up. 682 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 6: I think, especially in baseball, if it's a close play, 683 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 6: if it's a banger, I need you to sell it. 684 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 6: You need to be have conviction, sell it absolutely. 685 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: And I think we need that in the NFL. I 686 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: think we need refs being heels, playing the villain, playcating 687 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: towards the crowd. I would love that. I think it 688 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: would be magnificent television. And I just I mean, he 689 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: already think that they favor the better teams, which they don't, 690 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: but why not just lean into like the drama of it, 691 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: the play is a touchdown, to your point, is magnificent. 692 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: He did it all with his straight face, knowing exactly 693 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: that was Carl Cheffer's I believe, say you know the 694 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: name and everything, Yes, yes, very straight laced guy. Alan 695 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: Eck is a newer official. I believe he's one of 696 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: my favorites. I don't know why. He's just like a 697 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: guy that means business. But I think you need to 698 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: lean in more. 699 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 3: Who would be your greatest heel, greatest rep as a 700 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: heel in your mind? Right now? 701 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 4: Just think about all the Relfs in the past. I 702 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 4: got one that fits the bill, but I don't know 703 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 4: if he's that okay, but yeah, give me one. 704 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: Jerry mark Bright is a one from I think Isaac 705 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: knows who I'm talking about. Like he was the one 706 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: who would He was very He wasn't Ed Hocky Lee. 707 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, come on, I just I just I just 708 00:32:54,120 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: don't carry his answer. Who's yours carry? This was what happened, 709 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: and he always kind of had loose sort of voice. 710 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: The offensive player did not touch the ball and exact yes, 711 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: and now Sean hockyy his son is the red cash 712 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: In was a was another one. And do we have 713 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: a do you have any giving him the business? 714 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: Do we have any of? 715 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 6: Like? 716 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 2: This is what the NFL needs more. 717 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 3: Of sixty nine offense. 718 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: He was giving him the business that we need more 719 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: of that. He was giving him the business that it's 720 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: so great. You know what else? Actually we need more of. 721 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: This may be crazy, but it's too late for it. 722 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: We needed more. Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh. What a perfect marriage. 723 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: The Steelers aren't going to win the super Bowl. But 724 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: for everybody who says super Bowl or bust, that's wrong. 725 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest Aaron Rodgers fan. I know you 726 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: have a personal relationship with Aaron Rodgers. To see Aaron 727 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: Rodgers play the way that he has to wait, to 728 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: see the way that the Steelers have responded, the dynamic 729 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: of yesterday, watching ros Mike Tomlin and Cameron Hayward walking 730 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: off the field together after that victory. This has been 731 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: a rousing success Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh. And it's a 732 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 2: shame that he had to take two years to play 733 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: in New York because this probably should have happened in 734 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh two years ago. 735 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 4: Oh, Dan, if it happened two years ago and pitts 736 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 4: well minus the injury, Yeah yeah, you know, but man, 737 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 4: it'd been fun. 738 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: You would have been playing on a crappy field service. 739 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 2: That's not that it's great in Pittsburgh anyway, but hey, 740 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: it would have been at least a grass service to that. 741 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 4: No, it's been fun, Dan, I mean to see him 742 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, actually, I mean, he's been invested. 743 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: You can see it. 744 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 4: But he's literally invested on getting him to the playoffs 745 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 4: and making a run, and you can see it's it's 746 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 4: kind of permeating from him and the team. 747 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: Do you root for him? 748 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 7: I do? 749 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 6: I do? 750 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean for him. I mean we came in 751 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 4: the same year. I've known him personally obviously, you know that. 752 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 4: And for him to have sort of sort of a 753 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 4: bounce back year. It hasn't been pretty the whole season, 754 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 4: but like you said, it just fits completely, just absolute success. 755 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 4: Jason Stewart's a big fan of Aaron Rodgers. 756 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 3: I very much root for him. Yeah, I do. Oh 757 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 3: you do? Yeah, I definitely do. 758 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 2: But like this season couldn't have gone any any better. 759 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: They're like they're on the verge of winning the AFC North. 760 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: They're gonna host a home playoff game and they may 761 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: they may win that game. They're not gonna win three 762 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: in a row in the postseason. 763 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 6: But and he has impacted wins. Yeah, I think I 764 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 6: remember it was a Peyton Manning with the Super Bowl 765 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 6: Broncos team that he was the quarterback of a really 766 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 6: good team. Yep, but he wasn't really impacting wins. I 767 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 6: think he could say Aaron Rodgers has all season. Yes, 768 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 6: I agree with that. 769 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: The the Mike Tomland criticism of him always trying to 770 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 2: keep the team, I think is is fair. And if 771 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: you're a Steelers fan, you're like, all right, how many 772 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: more ten and seven, nine and eight seasons can we 773 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: go through? However, Rodgers has injected new blood, even though 774 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: he's an old guy into the Steelers, and it is 775 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 2: a different feel about that team. It may be the 776 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: same old Steelers, but I don't think it's the same 777 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 2: old Steelers. 778 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 779 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 4: No, I mean he's forty three years old. Dan, it 780 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 4: just takes a little time to warm up. That's all right, 781 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 4: tell me about it. We're fifty three minutes in and 782 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 4: I'm still having still Yeah. 783 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 7: Yeah. 784 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: Hey, have you heard about trainer games? Add this to 785 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: your binge list. Ten athletes go head to head for 786 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: the chance to win an iFIT trainer contract with two 787 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars streaming on Prime Video starting 788 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: January eighth. And basically, the AFC North is theirs. They're 789 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: going to get a home game, and if whatever wild 790 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 2: card team goes to Pittsburgh, it should be a formidable opponent. 791 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: But going up against Aaron Rodgers in a playoff game 792 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: in that setting would be a tougher task than maybe 793 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 2: other people would have won it. 794 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 4: One hundred percent, whoever comes in to that stadium at 795 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 4: that time in the playoffs is going to be in 796 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 4: for a battle. 797 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 2: We had a fights on Friday, We had a College 798 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: Football Playoffs simorgasboard on Saturday, and we had a crazy 799 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 2: day of the NFL on Sunday. What did you love? 800 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 3: What did you hate? 801 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 2: He's carry I'm Dan. That's next on Fox