1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: D M Eastern. It will be streaming live on giants 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: dot com, so you will be able to watch that 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: right after us, and we'll recap all of that on 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: tomorrow show. But if you want to get into some 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: draft speculation, we certainly welcome your phone calls on those 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: subjects as well. And we'll get into two schools today, Jeff. 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: But we're getting closer and closer to the draft. We're 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: officially one week away. We have to talk about we 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: have to talk about the other school in Florida today. Well, 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: we could throw some tidbits in. I think the person 11 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: next to me knows a thing or two about that 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: other school in Florida. I'm going out on a limb here, 13 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: but um, feeling confident that the hurricane, I know more 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: about the other school, which would be that the one 15 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: down south rather than the one up north. So right, 16 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: we'll we'll get a little bit of uh, we'll get 17 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of information about that school up north 18 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: today with Florida. But yeah, I mean listen, one week 19 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: away from the draft, thank god. Um, I don't know 20 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: how much more of this I could take. I really 21 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: don't with you. I think, in fact, I know that 22 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: I know for a fact that last year I did 23 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: not do as much of the draft stuff as I've 24 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: done this year. And and even to that point, it's 25 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: not a lot. I haven't done a lot in the 26 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: draft stuff. You guys are pretty much done most of 27 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: the uh you know, the work on all this stuff, 28 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: I just is so mind boggling to me. I just 29 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: want to concentrate on really the seven or six guys 30 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: that the Giants could possibly get, But you know, you 31 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: have to look at all of it. I guess so 32 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: um it is overwhelming. And I will tell you that 33 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: it is a lot of time spent on this this draft, 34 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: with so many people and so many mock drafts and 35 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: so much stuff, I think that this is gonna be 36 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: a fun one. I mean, it's in Dallas, it's over 37 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: three days, that's what they said. They're gonna be over 38 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: two thousand people at this stupid thing. I mean, is 39 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: it not. It's not the NFL turns everything into a 40 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: money making procedure, right, I mean, it's unbelievable that they're 41 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: gonna be able to do this over a three day 42 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: period and make They're gonna make tons of money on 43 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: this thing. But it is gonna be fun. It's gonna 44 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: be interesting, especially that first day. It's all good pony show. 45 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: That's what the NFL is all about. We never sleep, 46 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: we never rested. Speaking of the NFL Draft, we are 47 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: now joined by a very special guest who will help 48 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: us break down on the Florida prospects will be selected 49 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: next week, and that is Edgar Thompson. He covers the 50 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: Florida Gators for the Orlando Sentinal. Edgar, you got Lance 51 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: Meadow Jeff Feagles with you here on giants dot Com 52 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff. I appreciate the time. How's everything. Oh, 53 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: it's great night. Nice to chat with you, guys. I 54 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: used to watch you guys. Thank you, at least me rightly. 55 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: I certainly didn't suit on the play. So even though 56 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm telling you what, listen, if I if I could, 57 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: I still would trust me. And uh although at the 58 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: end of my career when I was forty three, I 59 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: felt like I was fifty. So I'm joking. No, listen, 60 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: I believe me. I have tough skin for for for 61 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: being a four part we give him a hard time 62 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: all the two. All right, No worries ed Growing and 63 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: the reason why Jeff is extremely excited about this conversation, 64 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: Edgar is because we've got a punter at a kicker 65 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: to get to. We've got a good one too. Before 66 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: we tackle special teams, I do want to start with 67 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: one of the notable defensive players for Florida, and that 68 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: is Tavin Bryan. And I think what's interesting about him, 69 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: Edgar is the sample size is small because he red shirted, 70 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: then he started only two games, and then all of 71 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: a sudden maybe came into his own this past season. 72 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: What is his upside given the fact that the sample 73 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: size is not very big, Well, the upside is huge 74 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: for this kid. I mean, he's he's a physical freak. 75 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: This guy was the first recruit, the only recruiting facts 76 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: signed out a Wyoming and US football history. And he 77 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: grew up he was raised by a Navy field. He 78 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: grew up hiking, you know, fishing, hunting. I remember he 79 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: told me a story eleven years old, Karen, like a 80 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: seventy pound pack up, like you know, forty degree gradients. 81 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: So this kid was raised tough as nails and country strong, 82 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: that kind of guy, and he came here and was 83 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: just raw in high school. He just could just pick 84 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: guys up and throw him out of the way. I'm 85 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: sure small school Wyoming high school football. I mean, you 86 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: don't get many guys coming out of there. And it 87 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: took him a long time to refine his technique and 88 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: also realized, I think cal hard he had to work 89 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: um despite his upbringing to be a top football player. 90 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: The light finally seemed to go on Um in the 91 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: last year or so, and he he had twenty seven 92 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: tackles is it his first two seasons. This last year 93 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: he had forty, including six for loss, which you aren't 94 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: like staggering numbers. I mean, they've been players at Florida. 95 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: John Bullard stands out. A couple of few years back, 96 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: third round picked by the Bears. Kid was getting double 97 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: teamed all the time and had seventeen and a half 98 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: tackles for loss that one year. So Haven didn't have 99 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: that kind of an impact. Um. He was the focal 100 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: point of a lot of cops into the line blocking 101 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: teams last year. In fairness, but he is a tremendous act. 102 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Believe he's got he's six speed, strength, all those things, 103 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: and tough, so you know he would be a role 104 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: with the dice a bit. But I think that he 105 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: is definitely a friend's first round pick just based on 106 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: the measurables. Well, they got him, and they got him 107 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: ranked on Pro Football Focus as the fifty first ranked 108 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: player in this draft. Um, so you never know. I mean, 109 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: this is a weak defensive line class to begin with. So, 110 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: um yeah, absolutely. And when I hear when I hear 111 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: a guy about a guy that that grew up where 112 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: his dad was an Army arranger or any of the 113 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: special Forces stuff, I'm in. I'm in on this guy. 114 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have to worry about him showing up 115 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: too late two meetings. I'm not gonna have to worry 116 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: about the character issues that sometimes you have to deal 117 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: with with with certain positions that come in, you know, 118 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: in the draftings of that. So to me, that's all good, 119 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: and um, you know, real quickly we have you know, 120 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: there's all there's there's a bunch of guys. I mean, 121 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: I think there's probably what one five about nine seniors 122 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: on this team or juniors that are gonna be eligible 123 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: for the draft. What's your what's your Give me two 124 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: of your guys that you have a feeling that that 125 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: they will be drafted and they have a good chance 126 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: to Um, go. Maybe I don't know. In the first 127 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: half of the draft. Maybe who knows Hagar Well? I mean, 128 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: well Duke Dawson, who is kind of a nickelback. In 129 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: the NFL these days, you need a very critical position 130 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: with all the receiver you know set they have. Um 131 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: he's a nice player. He's played a lot of football Florida. 132 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: He was a fifth year senior. He's very solid, doesn't 133 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: make mistake good tack work. Yeah, what do you have? 134 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: Sixteen pass break up the last two seasons combined. I mean, 135 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: not spectacular numbers, but very solid. And in his junior 136 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: year two years ago, he just had incredible numbers and 137 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: slot guys, I mean, he just shut him down. So 138 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: he's a nice player. The other one, I would you know, 139 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: who's the biggest question mark out of this group is 140 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: Antonio Callaway the receiver. The kid has incredible talent and 141 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: upside and he was a great, really great punt return 142 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: er as a freshman. As a sophomore, he was a 143 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: disaster back there. But if you can get that freshman version, 144 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: you have a great punt return right out of the gate. 145 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Receiver wise, he's a threat downfield. In working underneath, he 146 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: has a very good instincts when he catches the ball, 147 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: solid hands, He's pretty compact strong, so he's a good prospect. 148 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: The problem with him is endless off the field, in 149 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: character issues with Antonio. He was suspended last year. He 150 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: was part of some credit cards froad scheme that ensnared 151 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: a number of players. And he's had other issues in 152 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: his path, you know, some marijuana citations, hanging around with 153 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: the wrong people. He had a Title nine investigation into 154 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: a sexual battery charge that was cast out. Yeah, no, 155 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: I he has. He's gonna have to be very convincing 156 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: and interviews and he doesn't come across as the brightest 157 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: light in the room. So he's arrest but he could 158 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: really pan out. If someone takes a chance on John 159 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: and is able to men for him and get his 160 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: nose clean, well hey, let's go. We'll go right to 161 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: I want to go to my guy. This is this 162 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: is the guy. No, it's not, but I will tell 163 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: you this. Um. You know Johnny Towns and I've watched 164 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: him punt, I watched him come up. I know that 165 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: I talked to a scout here in the building the 166 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: other day. Of all things we were on. We were 167 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: talking punting if you can believe it. But I asked him, 168 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: I said, hey, listen, what what would you see at 169 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: the combine? And J K. Scott from Alabama and and 170 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: towns in from Florida. He said with a two two 171 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: guys that stood out the most. Um More importantly, he said, 172 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: Johnny Towns and he has an incredible leg, just can 173 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: pound the football a little. He was a little inconsistent 174 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: at the combine, which doesn't bother me because they're they're 175 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: kicking brand new footballs. I think that if you know, 176 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if he had to workout at Florida 177 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: or not, but tell me a little bit about Johnny 178 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: and uh and what his upside is as far as 179 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: coming into this draft. Well, Johnny, I'm based in games 180 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: well actually, but he's an Orlando kid, so I've gotten 181 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: to know his dad quite well. In fact, the son 182 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: for the younger brothers kicking to the Gators this year, Tommy. 183 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: So the Townsends are taking over the world up here 184 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: with Funny. But Johnny is an athlete. I mean, this 185 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: kid has some stature. He's sick too. He's two five 186 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: pounds and he looks like an athlete and he can 187 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: tackle on punts. I mean he likes to stick his 188 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: nose in there. Um. Anyway, he's he's a special kid. 189 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean he can kick the heck out of the ball. 190 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: He led the nation in punting two years in a row. 191 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: He's the all time leading punter in SEC history with 192 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: the points to yard average. Oh, he's good at directional punting. 193 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: He's just a very, very good player. He was as 194 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: big a weapon as they had the last two years. 195 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: And uh Eddie Pinero the kicker. If he and Johnny 196 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: were to be drafted, both of them, they would be 197 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: the first time in the modern draft, the seven round draft, 198 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: that a school produced both a punter and a kicker 199 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: drafted in the same year. And they have a good 200 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: shot at doing that. One thing I liked that I 201 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: heard about um Johnny Townsend was that did he could 202 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: they The team knew that if they had a crunch 203 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: and they needed needed him and crunch time, he could 204 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: play safety. Is that true? I'm sure. Look, he was 205 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: like a center fielder in high school. Um, he played 206 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: other positions. He's not a guy. A lot of these punters. 207 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: Book of the best athletes on the tea. Let's get 208 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: that up front. Well, Ray Guy was my guy as 209 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: a kid. Yeah, I was an Oakland Raiders fan. Ray 210 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 1: Guy had nine interceptions at Southern Missive senior year in 211 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: ninety two and was the first round pick this sect. 212 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: So a football sent he thought. The yards in the air, 213 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean punters, and that's an athletic move man. It's 214 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: like a golfer. People say they're not athletes whatever. Putting 215 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: on the ball, It's it's hard to do. Man. I 216 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: can't kick the ball twenty yards anymore either, can I? Yeah, 217 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: well I probably couldn't even in My friend got much more. 218 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to downend is very special athletes. Yeah. 219 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: I have a feeling that he will get drafted this 220 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: year along with j. K. Scott does the two guys 221 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: from the specialist position in punting specifically that I think 222 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: that we'll get a shot in the National Football League. 223 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: They'd certainly deserve it. I mean, Johnny the seats that 224 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: he has over the last two years and be an 225 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: all time guy an SEC that's something else. So that's 226 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: a good that's good stuff. We're yeah, we're talking from 227 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: Texas now he's the other guy. Yeah, I mean, listen, 228 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's very rare that you have three or 229 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: four guys drafted that these days and as punters. So um, 230 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: but I still I asked when the scouts that was 231 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: in the building the other day we're talking punting, like 232 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: I said, he had he had J. K. Scott in 233 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: towns and as a top two. And then the guy 234 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: from Texas as the third. Okay makes fun. Yeah, well 235 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: I hope he I hope it happens because he's a 236 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: very very well mannered like kid. I mean I really 237 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: like him. And Pannero, you talk about a talent. This 238 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: kid can knock in fifty r field golf with his 239 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: eyes close. Those two should go yeah, yeah, Well they're 240 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: listen to thirty two teams, and you know, not every 241 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: team has a punter or a kicker that they're comfortable with. 242 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: And listen the Giants they cut they cut their punter 243 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: Brad Wing in the off season. Here they've got a 244 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: young kid and that has no experience, so you never know. 245 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there might be a pick in there at 246 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: the end of the draft four for a punter for 247 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: the Giants. Possibly absolutely a late round pick. As we're 248 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: talking with that Good Thompson who covers the Gators through 249 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: the Orlando Sentinel and you brought up Pinera. I'm looking 250 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: at his numbers, Edgar. I mean, this is somebody that 251 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: made all five of his field goal tens for fifty plus. 252 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: He was sevent eight ten this season. The numbers are impressive. 253 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: How has he been in pressure situations though, when game 254 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: is on the line and they've had to turn to him, 255 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: how has he handled those situations? Well? Two years ago 256 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: when the Gators went into l s u UM, it 257 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: was that Hurricane Matthew game that got moved up controversially. 258 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: He he had three field goals really with the key 259 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: to the win in a lot of ways, along with 260 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: the goal line stand. But then this year against LUs 261 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: you we missed the nextra point and at one point 262 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: low really doomed Jim mckoway and the coach. So it's 263 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you were seeing both sides of it, I guess. 264 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: But I think he's pretty pretty cool headed guy. And uh, 265 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, the like I said, his leg, I mean 266 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: he has he has. He's a YouTube sensation as much 267 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: as anything he had, like that one yard field goal 268 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: that he took on YouTube. Man, Yeah, and it was 269 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: not Ptits unbelievable. How big is he. He sounds like 270 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: a small guy, Eddie Pinero. He sounds like a small 271 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: little he's at he's not very Wow. He's a great 272 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: tickoff guy too, I mean, and that's big. I mean, 273 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: you need a tickoff guy, not any more after what 274 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: they say, change the rule in college. Did you see 275 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: that the other day? I mean really yeah, I mean 276 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: just fair catch it. Yeah, I mean, listen, the kickoff 277 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: is going away, my friend, it's going away, and eventually 278 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: it's probably yeah, so well that's good. Um, he's actually 279 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: he'll get a chance. He'll get a chance. He'll be 280 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: in a camp somewhere, whether he's drafting or not. He's 281 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: got a chance. And and that's all you can really, 282 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, all you can really ask for a lot 283 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: of these guys coming out in Florida, even that even 284 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: the Callaway's and the in the Dawson just want a 285 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: chance to go into a camp somewhere, even if they're 286 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: not drafted, then just be able to with the clean 287 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: slate and going to compete. I think that you know, 288 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: Tanaro is gonna get drafted, man, I mean then the 289 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: Carlson kid from Auburn is the only guy who I've 290 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: seen anyone help it how to helm He's good man, 291 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: He's that's awesome. That's awesome. Well, it'll be intriguing to 292 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: see where some of these special teams players land and 293 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: if a team takes a chance on Antonio Callaway considering 294 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: he did not play last season. Edgar really appreciate the 295 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: time of the insight. Thanks so much for weighing in here. 296 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Edgar. Thank you. Guys. Have a good one. 297 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: Take care by Edgar Thompson, who covers the Gators for 298 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: the Orlando Sentinil kind enough to give us the Land 299 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: of the Lands for the Florida Gators, who're gonna turn 300 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: our attention to Oregon shortly as the Ducks also have 301 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: a few prospects that are in the mix. Not a 302 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: big volume class for Oregon compared to previous years, but 303 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: we'll certainly get into the Ducks and then being the 304 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: Pack twelve. Michael Jorgans, who will be joining us in 305 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: a few minutes, also has seen some of these top 306 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: quarterback prospects, so we'll get into that. It's always good 307 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: to get a different perspective on somebody that's seen different 308 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: and the Josh and well, at this point we're hoping 309 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: for a different and I will tell you, UM last week, 310 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: last Friday, we had a we had a great guest 311 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: on UM and are talking quarterbacks. It was how did 312 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: you pronounce? And you talk about he hit the he 313 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: hit it out of the park. Is when we were 314 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: talking about Baker Mayfield, UM and really trying to figure 315 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: out how he's going to make it in the National 316 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: Football League with his height, and something that he said 317 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: last week that made a lot of sense to me 318 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: is that he's got to be committed. And he didn't 319 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: mean by committed as far as being committed like to football, 320 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: but being committed to the system and knowing his throwing 321 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: lanes and where he has to be with his size 322 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: and that coming from him from the quarterback position and 323 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: a guy that's played it, that really made a lot 324 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: of sense to me that somebody that never had really 325 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: mentioned that before that Baker Mayfield, like Drew Brees and 326 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: A and A Russell Wilson, those guys have to understand 327 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: where their throwing lanes are because of their height and 328 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: getting into them, and you cannot be off because as 329 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: soon as you slide to one part of the gap 330 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be throwing and all of a sudden, 331 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: you're a little bit too far. That ball is gonna 332 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: get knocked down. It's gonna get the back of at 333 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: the back of the lineman's head, you know what I mean. Stuff, 334 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: But it all made sense, absolutely well. We'll get into 335 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks with our next guest here because he has 336 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: certainly seen what has transpired at the pack twelve, and 337 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: we'll also get to your phone calls hit a little 338 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: bit at two zero, one, five, one three. Right now, though, 339 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: we turn our attention to the Oregon Ducks, who have 340 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: a few prospects in the mix the upcoming NFL Draft, 341 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: and we are now joined by Mike Jorgan's in former 342 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: Oregon quarterback, also now the Oregon Football radio analyst, Mikey 343 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: got Lance Meado Jeff Feagles with here on Giants dot 344 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: Com Big Blue Kickoff Live. Appreciate the time, house everything, 345 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: h Mike. Hey, they're doing great. Hey guys, thanks for 346 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: having me on. Good morning and good afternoon. Back there, obviously, 347 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: we out here on the west coast of sunshines finally 348 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: out of in Eugene. It's been ugly. It's been ugly 349 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: this year, so nice to have a sunshine out ugly 350 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: here in the New York, New Jersey metropolitan area. Like so, 351 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: I think we can relate considering we're still trying to 352 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: welcome in spring. But that's a whole other subject. All right, 353 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: Let's get to the Oregon Ducks and this year, the 354 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: running back position, Mike, and I'm sure you're aware of 355 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 1: this just following college football is extremely deep. Oregon has 356 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: produced a number of backs in the past. This year 357 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: you have Royce Freeman. What is it that stands out 358 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: to you about Royce Freeman compared to some of the 359 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: other running backs that are in the mix. And you know, 360 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: how much do you think he can handle pass protection, 361 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: which is something I know I've read about that people 362 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: expect him to work on moving forward. Yeah, I mean 363 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: that's something that's come into question. There's no doubt about it. 364 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: And in the system, you know that that he was 365 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: in here at the University of Oregon more of a 366 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: read type of deal with very athletic quarterbacks, particular Marcus Mario. 367 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: It was still here and over the last couple of years, 368 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, past protection hasn't necessarily always been a four 369 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: K and the focus of the Oregon offense, and I 370 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: think that maybe has hurt Royce Freeman over his three 371 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: or four year over his four years here at the 372 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: University of Oregon. But you know the strengths I guess 373 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: if you're asking about him with him, you know, his 374 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: top end speed, I wouldn't call it, you know, great, 375 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: it's good, but his ability to stop and start, to 376 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: be able to change direction in traffic, uh, and his 377 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: in space explosiveness. You know, from the standpoint of when 378 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: you do get in that space, he's got the burst 379 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: to be able to get out there again, to be 380 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: able to hold that speed like a cyclon Barkley or 381 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: something like that. Absolutely not. But uh, he's a big, 382 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: strong guy. I wouldn't call him a bruiser type of 383 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: running back. That's gonna if you're in the hole, he's 384 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna clock it and run right over the top of you. 385 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: But he doesn't go down easy either because of his 386 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: strength and in his size. So you know, I think 387 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: Royce Freeman is gonna have a good career in the NFL. 388 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. As a feature back. Uh, 389 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: that's tough to tell. It might be stretching it right now, 390 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: might work into it, but ah, he's a guy again, 391 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: like I said, when you look at the comparison between 392 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: he and Jonathan Stewart, another Oregon duct at the Giants 393 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: have now, um, you know the things that he did 394 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: when you combine, when you look at their combines and 395 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: what they did, he was better in a twenty yards shuttle, 396 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: a lot better, a lot better the three cone drill, 397 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: which again is that stop start changing direction type of 398 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: thing that you want to see at the back. Obviously 399 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: not as fast in the forty not as strong or 400 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: as explosive in the jumps, but he does have his 401 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: strengths and I think he's gonna bode well for whoever 402 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: picks him up. Well, I'll tell you what. He's so 403 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: funny where the game has come, Mike. When we say 404 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: he wasn't fast in the forty yard dads, he ran 405 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: at four or five four? Right, So like, my god, 406 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: the guy is so you know, isn't that horrible that 407 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: we say that he didn't run well at the Comedy 408 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: ran at four or five you know? But I mean 409 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: for being six ft two on almost two hundred forty pounds, Um, 410 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: what I like about him? And just reading reading some 411 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: of the some of the overviews that we have um 412 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: on Royce is the fact that he had eighty out 413 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: of eighty nine passes thrown his way over his of 414 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: his college career. Um can catch the pass, can catch 415 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield. Make some guys miss that. 416 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: That to me is a huge asset for a running 417 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: back coming into the National Football League, especially the way 418 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: the game is played today. Yeah, I mean twenty catches 419 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: a year basically is what he averaged in this offense. 420 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Some of them screens in that type of deal, but 421 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: bottom line, when the ball went to him, he caught 422 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: it regardless of where he was on the field. And 423 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's a big hole obviously that Doregan Ducks 424 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: have now at that running back position with a guy 425 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: like Freeman who almost carried out a thousand times in 426 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: his career here, which is a lot obviously, uh fifty 427 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: yards rush and sixty touchdowns. But again, you put the dimensional, 428 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: the two dimension piece into it, or a guy that 429 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: isn't just a running back, but it's a threat out 430 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: of the backfield. I know, in the NFL and never 431 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: having even been close to it other than sitting in 432 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: the stands and watching it. When you've got a guy 433 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: that can do that, Uh, he's that much more dangerous. 434 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: And and you mentioned, you know, his size and that 435 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: type of deal. He could easily put on another ten 436 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: pounds and not lose that four or five four speed 437 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: And you're reading to write it's just so silly when 438 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: you say something like that, and you know, you look 439 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: at a tenth of a second, but it means all 440 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: the difference in the world, I know, at that level. 441 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: But he could put on that type of pounds, uh, 442 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: bulk up a little bit more from what he is 443 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: right now, and still maintain it and I think be 444 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: a really good back, particularly in the Giants system. I mean, 445 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm a huge Giants fan, and I know the type 446 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: of backs that they've had over time, and he kind 447 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: of fixed that bill, uh, you know, and if they 448 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: can get a you know, somehow Lura guy and like 449 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: Sae Kwon Barkley or that type of deal, that's what 450 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for. Guys, just so you know that. But 451 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: I understand you know that that's could be the face 452 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: of the program. But you know, it's just he's the 453 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: Royce Freeman I think is going to bode well, particularly 454 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: if he ends up on the Giants. That just would 455 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: be to me a really good fit for that guy, 456 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: Mike Guy. I know he dealt with a knee injury, 457 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: and I believe it was in two thousand sixteen where 458 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: his numbers dipped. He failed to get to a thousand yards. Now, 459 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: part of that may have been ore again struggles overall, 460 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: but how much has he fully recovered from that knee 461 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: injury and how much do you think that restricted him 462 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: perhaps in seasons past. Well, I don't think that's an 463 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: issue anymore. You know, he had he ended up kind 464 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: of playing through that. He got it early in the 465 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: season in I think he injured it too, kind of 466 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: a knee shin injury when they were playing Nebraska in Lincoln, 467 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: and and he missed a few games, there's no doubt 468 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: about it. But he came back to play a lot 469 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: during that season, and it was an ugly season four 470 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: and after they had kind of peaked at where they've 471 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: been a couple of years prior to that, but still 472 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: close to a thousand yards that year. Last year, he 473 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: didn't show any of the after effects of an almost 474 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred yards rush and average six yards of carry. 475 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: That's about what he averaged for his career, you know, 476 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen in the NFL. But I think 477 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: it just showed you when he came back, he came 478 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: back full go Um. He's a guy who I think 479 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: recovers well. He's durable. I think he's showing his durability 480 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: in college with that many carries. I know I've seen 481 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: some articles about it, saying that that might not be 482 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: a good thing because he's and beat up so much 483 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: in college. How many Harry does he have left in 484 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: the NFL? Okay, Well, the way he's put together, I 485 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: don't think that's going to be an issue. And based 486 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: on the fact that I don't seem as a twenty 487 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: five or thirty carry back in the NFL, there's not 488 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: many of those. He got a lot of football left 489 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: in it, and I think he's gonna have a nice career, 490 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: much like Jonathan Stewart has. I think that they are 491 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: very similar in a lot of ways. Size, speed, uh, durability, 492 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: and the various things that go with it. I think 493 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: that's the type of career I see Royce Freeman have 494 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: and just like Jonathan Stewart has had. Well, let's move 495 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: to the offensive line and the guys that helped block 496 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: in make the holes for these running backs. And you've 497 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: got Tyrell Crosby, and I know he's been at right tackle, 498 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: seems to have been moved around a little bit. What 499 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: do you think his ideal position is as he moves 500 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: towards the next level, it's right tackle. I think that's 501 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: what he's projected at in and frankly, you know, that's 502 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: what he started out at as a freshman, you know, 503 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: at the University of Oregon. Because Oregon at that time 504 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: had some really good offensive lineman that are you know, 505 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL right now, Runs Grassou and Jake 506 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: Fisher and uh, you know, and and various others that 507 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: are still playing at that level. And and as soon 508 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: as those guys graduated, because of his athleticism, which which 509 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: should tell you something, they flipped him from right to 510 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: left and he was tremendous as Oregons left. Cackle protected 511 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: the quarterback over the last couple of years. Justin Herbert, 512 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: I don't think he gave up a sack last year 513 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: at all for the entire year. I know he did 514 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: a nice job at the combine, had a strong Senior Bowl. Uh, 515 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: he was the Morris Trophy winner in the pack twelfth 516 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: conference the best offensive lineman voted by the players in 517 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: this conference. And I can see why he got it. Uh, 518 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: he's an aggressive guy, really aggressive guy that finishes his blocks, 519 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: takes a lot of pride in just burying people. But 520 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: at the same time he's he's really athletic for a 521 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: guy that's you know, six three ten moves. Well, again, 522 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: another guy that did that, Oregan is going to drastically 523 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: miss because of that protection on the back side for 524 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback. But I see Kyroll Crosby being on the 525 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: right side, probably right tackle, and I think, again, he's 526 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a guy that's gonna have a nice, long, 527 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: solid career just because of how healthy he was for 528 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 1: the most part in college and how athletic he is. 529 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: He can do a lot of different things. Well, they've 530 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: got him ranked as the number four tackle in this 531 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: in this class this year. One thing that sticks out 532 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: on I'm looking at Pro Football Focus. They do a 533 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: big I mean this thing is this thing is like 534 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: a three inches thick. It's ridiculous half at the table too, 535 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 1: but it's actually pretty awesome when you're looking through this 536 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: and you know something that I always hard to find 537 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: something that jumps out on the page to me, Um, 538 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: this guy gave up three sacks in his career at 539 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: at at Oregon and that's going back fifth the last 540 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: three years. Um. And the fact that he's a pretty 541 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: smart player didn't give He doesn't have a lot of penalties, 542 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: played a lot of football last year. But he's a 543 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: big guy six five, three twenty. That's a that is 544 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: a nice size, uh for for a tackle. You know, 545 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: you don't want that tackle being three sixty pounds and 546 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: that's your guard material. So um, and you know, listen, 547 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: the Giants, Uh, they're they're on there confer a right 548 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: tackle and so maybe Mr Crosby might be someone that 549 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: they look look for and we'll see what happens here. 550 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: But you know, um, do we hear you're a Giants fan? 551 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: So that's more important why we had you on the show. 552 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: You know, forget about the fall we were we would 553 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: like to know, We would like to know from somebody 554 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: out west, because we've already heard from everybody out east 555 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: what the Giants are gonna do here. But we're just 556 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: kind of curious what you're hearing on the West coast 557 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: that the Giants are gonna do with that number two pick. Well, 558 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's it's it's either it's either 559 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: Rosen pops out. You know, Josh Rosen as a potential, 560 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: you know from a standpoint, I mean he lies what 561 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: thirty seven years old now, uh and and at the 562 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: end of his career and didn't have well, his worst 563 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: year last year in his career, So you know, I 564 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: know that's coming up big time. Whether you try to 565 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: get somebody who's already a seasoned veteran in con trade 566 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: form is gonna be a tough thing to do. Or 567 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: do you take the young guy like Rosen who probably 568 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: you know, fundamentally between he and Donald the two guys 569 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: in the Pack twelfth conference that are being looked at fundamentally, 570 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: he's a guy who just has it and I think 571 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: it's going to have a really nice NFL careers as 572 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: well as he grows into it. So it's either Rosen 573 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: or at Kwon Barkley. I mean, I like the linebacker position. 574 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: I'd go, you know, Lorenzo Carter or maybe Bradley Chubb 575 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: because I've always been you know, as a Giants fan, 576 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: it's do pont defense, It's the Harry Carson's it's a 577 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: you know former Duck George Martin. You forgot about that. 578 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: George Martin tremendous career as a Giant, was an Oregon 579 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: Duck when he was drafted, gee the eleventh round. I 580 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: think back at seventy four or seventy five or something 581 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: like that. It goes back aways, you know. So, um, 582 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: those are all the guys I look at, you know, offense, 583 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: I just think s Kwon Barkley would be the would 584 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: be the face of the franchise eventually. That's the guy 585 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: that I think just everybody loves and his upside is 586 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: amazing and uh and so I'd love to see him 587 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: be the guy that's picked. But it'll be interesting to 588 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: see do you go offense with Rosen or Barkley or 589 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: you go defense with Carter or somebody like Chubb from 590 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: the edge. Um, well, Mike, you are right on the money. 591 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: Levin's round nine George Martin defensive end out of Oregon. 592 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: Look at that. I mean that was absolutely great value 593 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: for the Giants in terms of how he was able 594 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: to help them win his Super bowls. We're talking with 595 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: Mike Jorgan's in former Oregon quarterback. He's now the Oregon 596 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: Radio analyst and Mike you alluded to the quarterback position, 597 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: and I know you spoke about Josh Rosen. You've had 598 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: an opportunity to see Rosen end Donald in the conference 599 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: up close at personal over the last few seasons. I 600 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: mean in terms of Sam Donald, and there's a lot 601 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: of chatter he may go number one to Cleveland or 602 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: maybe Cleveland winds up taking Josh Allen. I mean, if 603 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: you compare Rosen versus Donald, who to you do you 604 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: think is going to have a more sustainable career at 605 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: the next level. I just think that Rosen, will you know, 606 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: And I like Sam Donald. I like his athleticism and 607 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: kind of sometimes his river bowl gambling mentality, but that 608 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: also kind of created the up and down in his career. 609 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: Well he would just throw some balls where you're scratching 610 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: your head and go him, what do you see? What? 611 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: What do you think he was going to be able 612 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: to get away with? And habits aren't going to translate 613 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: over the top into the NFL. They're gonna make you 614 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: pay every time that you make that mistake of I 615 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: heard you guys talking about throwing into small windows, you know, 616 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: the short guys like the Drew Brees and the people 617 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: like that. Your anticipation and you're reading of things have 618 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: to be more than just taking a chance and hoping 619 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: you have a better athlete at the wide receiver position. 620 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: And that's oftentimes what it felt like Donald did at 621 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: USC because he had such good guys at that position. 622 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: He'd throw it up for grabs, they'd make plays. But 623 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: he also makes some great plays with his feet because 624 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: of his mobility and keeping his team into it. Whereas 625 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: with Josh Rosen, he stayed who he was, He made 626 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: good reads, a live arm uh fund fundamentally, you know, 627 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: he carries the ball, puts it in the right place. 628 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: I think has more of a pro style type of 629 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 1: offense that he ran at u c l A with 630 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: what he was doing and didn't maybe have the upside 631 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: of wide receiver help that Donald did at USC and 632 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: still was every bit as efficient. So I just see 633 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: Rosen being a guy that's going to have a you know, 634 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: I maybe dead wall and we'll find out and take years, 635 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: but I see Rosen having the longer career in the NFL, 636 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: and he just seems more prototypical to what the NFL 637 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: likes to see. Well, Mike, you've played the quarterback position. 638 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: Last one for me, how concerning though you mentioned you 639 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: feel Rosen could have a sustainable career, how concerning those 640 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: are the concussions to you if you are to think 641 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: about drafting him. Yeah, that that's the downside. That's the downside, 642 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: right there? Is how many more before all of a 643 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: sudden his career gets cut short because he has had 644 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: more than one or more than two. And you know, 645 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: when you start getting a head popped on the on 646 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: the ground, let alone getting hit by you know, the 647 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: veracity of the NFL game, that is just a huge 648 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: notch up from college football. That would be the one 649 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: major concern. And you know that's something obviously that the 650 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: experts with the Giants and other teams that are taking 651 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: a look at him are going to look at really 652 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: really closely, because that's the one downside to Josh Rosen, 653 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: right there is what's his durability going to be if 654 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: he gets hit upside the head or gets slapped down 655 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: to the ground a few times and has to miss 656 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: some games, And they're going to really have to value 657 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: looked at pretty closely. Always something you got away the 658 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: mobility of the quarterback, the decision making the quarterback and 659 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: that's why there's a big debate about who's gonna go 660 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: where within the top five. It will be something interesting 661 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: to monitor. Mike Jorgan's in kind enough to give us 662 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: a few minutes here former Oregon quarterback Oregon Ducks football 663 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: radio analysts, Mike greatly appreciate the time of the inside. 664 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Thank you, Mike. Okay, hey, you gotta Mike, 665 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: you areciate the time. Mike Jorgan's in weighing in on 666 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks is they have an offensive lineman and 667 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: a running back who he talked about. They actually also 668 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: have a long snapper who may get drafted, may not. 669 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: But the problem with their long snapper is he only 670 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: is a long snapper. And normally when you draft a 671 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: long snapper and somebody that's a lineback or somebody that 672 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: he contributed, you know what, I don't even know. I 673 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: mean maybe a few years ago, but now I don't. 674 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that I don't do those guys even 675 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: get drafted, but um, it depends. I mean zacht Elsie, 676 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: he was a linebacker though that's why he he played 677 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: for two years in the linebacker kept getting hurt and 678 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: they finally said, you know what, You're not gonna do 679 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: that anymore. You're gonna be a snapper, now understandable. And 680 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: so yeah, uh, I like this Terrell Crosby, Tyrrell, Terrell, 681 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call him. But I like this guy. 682 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: I think this guy could be a good player, whether 683 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: it's for the Giants or anybody else. But I like 684 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: him a lot. Yeah, he has experience also at the 685 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 1: left tackle and the right tackle. It's interesting because Mike 686 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: says he projects him as a right tackle. There's a 687 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: lot of people actually project him as a guard. Interesting, 688 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: So that's why I'm sort of baffled in terms of 689 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: everyone having various opinions on where they think he's going to. Well, 690 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: I think that whoever drafts him, they're going to be 691 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: able to tell him Listen, we're gonna draft were drafting 692 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: you to play guard or tackle. Um. But you know, 693 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: as we always say, even during the season lands when 694 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: we talk about positions and players, what is the one 695 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: thing that comes up consistently is that if you have 696 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: that versatility, you're worth so much more by being able 697 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: to be an offensive line that they can play inside 698 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: and outside and be able to do that that that 699 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: brings a lot to the table, especially when you're talking 700 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: about on draft day. Two zero one five ones three 701 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: is the telephone number hashtag giants Chat. If you want 702 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: to weigh in, feel free to give us a ring, 703 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: as we're gonna take you up till one pm Eastern. 704 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: We mentioned Dave Gettleman is going to have his press 705 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: conference at two pm Eastern where he will address the 706 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: media and this is going to be his first presser 707 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: since taking over his general manager. In terms of entering 708 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: a draft, we've always been used to hearing, obviously Jerry 709 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: Reese before the draft, and it'll be interesting to see 710 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: what type of perspective Dave Gettleman provides, what type of 711 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: direction he may throw a few hints at. But I 712 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna give you very much. I'll tell 713 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: you what he is gonna give you. He's gonna give 714 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: you some quotes and they're gonna be good ones. Um 715 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: with that, with that, you know that New England accent 716 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: that he has and and uh but um, you know, 717 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: and maybe they maybe this is the time when they 718 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: have been meeting upstairs and they say, Okay, we're gonna 719 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna leak some information to get something going, this 720 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: is what happens. We're a week away now, there's some 721 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: something's gotta start coming out. Um purposely not purposely, um, 722 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be very interesting. It would be great 723 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: to hear from Dave today. Um, you don't don't be 724 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: don't go in there thinking that you're gonna learn what 725 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: the number two pick is today. I think gonna happen. No, 726 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I don't see that happening 727 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: at all. And you know what, you know it really 728 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: upsets me Lance and you did you know this? And 729 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean this here. We got five thousand pages of 730 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: this thing, right, and at the very end of all 731 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: the player evaluations, it stops at the at the safety position. 732 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: And then there's no specialist in here. So they don't 733 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: have a section. They have no section for punters and 734 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: kickers in that entire bible of a book. Yes, so 735 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: to me this is great, but to me this is garbage, garbage, 736 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: It diminishes its value. Well, five minutes ago, you were 737 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: complimenting that because because I got to the end and you, 738 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: just like anything else, it's almost like when you read 739 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: a good book, you know, it kind of starts off 740 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: slowly and then you get into the meat of it 741 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: and you want the ending to be so good, and 742 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: all of a suddenly that you down the d of 743 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: the audacity of pro football focus to not have a 744 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: section dedicated to the specialist. Well, I don't think we 745 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: have to worry about a specialist. Perhaps go and get 746 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: number two in terms of the game of speculation. But 747 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: I think what's interesting, And you talked about all these 748 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: rumors that are coming out, Jeff, you gotta be careful 749 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: what you read into because this is the time of 750 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: the year where everybody just wants to throw things out 751 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: because they're trying to send mixed signals to other teams. 752 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: They're sending mixed signals to the media. Agents also have 753 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: agendas with players. Yeah we heard it. We heard it 754 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: today or yesterday with the Quon Barkley. And you know, 755 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: I'm not want to do in the the the Eli 756 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: Manning and the Philip Rivers thing. I'm not going there. 757 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: Don't if you go there, correct, listen, um it is 758 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: it's it's it's very you gotta have to you have 759 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: to be very careful what you read into these days, 760 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: and this draft cannot get here any quicker than next week. 761 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: It's third a week from today. Finally, finally, indeed, we 762 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: can end the speculation. Here's the thing. So you know, 763 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: typically when when Giants fans are waiting on draft Day, 764 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: it's it's it's you know, usually late on Draft d Yeah, 765 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 1: you gotta wait through. But let me tell the round. 766 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: If you haven't known by now, that's gonna be very 767 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: quick when the Giants are on the clock this year, 768 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: or maybe not, maybe somebody else will be on the 769 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: clock because they trade down, which is what I'm saying 770 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: they're doing. Really, I've said it from the beginning. Yeah, 771 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: not that I just want to I just want to 772 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: be right. That's a reason too. That well, but who 773 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: are you thinking that they'll trade down with? Is it Buffalo? 774 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: I think somebody wanting to get up to that number 775 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: two spots to take a corner of these quarterbacks. So 776 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: it has to be some of those teams that you're 777 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 1: talking about. And I think that, um, will the Giants 778 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: to me personally, will they get out of the top 779 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: ten They may have to to get to get one 780 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: of those guys, But I just think what they can 781 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: get in return for a team that was three and 782 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: thirteen and building this team and need some depth. Um, 783 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: they don't need a quarterback. They're going with Eli Manning 784 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: for two more years. They need a lot of other 785 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: items now, Sequon Barkley, if they draft him, I'm not 786 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: going to fault them for that. I pay great. You 787 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: know you've got a heck of a player coming in here. 788 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 1: But the fact is is that you know you need depth. 789 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: This team ran out of players last year because there 790 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: wasn't enough depth on this team. And you can't build 791 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: it in free agency every single year. You got to 792 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: build it through the draft and to me, get some 793 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: draft picks and start building this team through this younger 794 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: generation and draft picks. And it's gonna take to trade 795 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: up to get that. To get that pick at number two, 796 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: you can get a boatload of stuff. Well, to me, 797 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: if you're going to move out of the top ten, 798 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: let's say Buffalo is appealing, Okay, Jeff, So Buffalo is 799 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: at twelve and twenty two right now, I think they'll 800 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: The negotiation also has to start with the first round 801 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: of the following year, no question, because a twenty two 802 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: and a twelve or whatever, those are not sexy to me. No, 803 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: you're decreasing your chances of getting it but I gotta 804 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: get a first maybe next year. So could this move 805 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 1: all the way up to do it? Couldn't take three 806 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: draft pick three number one picks to get there. Possibly, 807 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: I think it would have the first two this year 808 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: and one next year and maybe something else, you know, 809 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe they got their eye and another 810 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: player over there for for a trade of some sorts. 811 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: But it's got to be that big. It's got to 812 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: be that back. And I listen if I'm if I'm 813 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: the giant and I and I feel the call like that, 814 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: it's got to be something that that magical for me 815 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: to even think about it, and if it happens, I'm 816 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: doing it. I'm doing it. I'm I'm just I'm just 817 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: gonna I'm going with it. I'm going with it. Well, 818 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: you gotta listen to these offers, and you have to 819 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: wait and see what happens with Cleveland in number one. 820 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: I would not pull the trigger until I see what 821 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland does, because then I think that also gives you 822 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: perhaps more options, and more teams are thinking that they 823 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: want to move up, they better have they better have 824 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: option A, B, C, and D, because they only have 825 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: what is it five minutes in between or what's the 826 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: what's the what's the time? I think it's a little 827 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: over five. It's whatever it is, But that's gotta be 828 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: You gotta okay, if if if Cleveland picks X, y Z, 829 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: then this is gonna be our X, A, B and 830 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: C situation. Okay. Um, Well, for example, if the Browns 831 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: take Josh Allen, Let's say they take Josh Allen, that's 832 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: speculation that they're gonna do that, and Sam Donald is 833 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: there when the Giants are on the clock at number two, 834 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: and maybe the Giants are not that high on Sam Donald. 835 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm throwing out hypotheticals here, but there's other teams, Jeff, 836 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: like Buffalo, for example, looks at Sam Donald as a 837 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. Now all of a sudden, maybe Buffalo has 838 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: more ammunition to give up a little bit more because 839 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: and they didn't think he was gonna be there at 840 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: number two. So that's why if I'm the Giants and 841 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: you're even thinking about a trade, you can't do anything 842 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: to me until Cleveland has officially made no question. And 843 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: I also believe that if this is if this is 844 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 1: the case, and these teams that are moving up into 845 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,919 Speaker 1: the draft to get into that quarterback position. You're gonna 846 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: see Cleveland. Who the rumor was that the Cleveland quam 847 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: Barkley doesn't want to go to Cleveland. He may go 848 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: to Cleveland at four. Correct, if you know, if everybody 849 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: passes on, yeah he made this the four and then 850 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: you know so or maybe you know a lot of 851 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: this speculation means nothing, and maybe the Browns take Barkley 852 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: at one. I mean I've been throwing that out for weeks. 853 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: I have not ruled that out either, because if Cleveland 854 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: looks at these quarterbacks, Jeff, and they're all close together, 855 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: at four, they could get a quarterback. So if they 856 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: love Barkley, you can take Barkley a one and then 857 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: wait for your quarterback at four. Correct. Couldn't do that 858 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 1: as well, because if they do. If they don't take Barkley, 859 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: then the Giants have been rumored to get him and 860 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: they will never get a chance for him. So might 861 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: as well take him before the Giants and get him 862 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: and then just two picks later. I got to even 863 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: if the other two quarterbacks are gone, I still have 864 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: to pick for two more than they're there. If you're Cleveland, 865 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: then you've got Alan, You've got Donald. You've got Baker, 866 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: Mayfield and Rose in and you know, you look at 867 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 1: all the four and say, you know they're they're they're close. 868 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's one X factor out of 869 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: the group that the Jets would try to get just 870 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: a little bit higher here. They may take the factor 871 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: moved all the way up into the draft and may 872 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: not be able to get one of these quarterbacks there. Well, 873 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: I think they took a written the Jets moved up 874 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 1: to three. Maybe they just but to your point, do 875 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: they want to try to move higher? Well, my feeling is, Jeff, 876 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: they should have tried to do that initially before they 877 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: traded Indianapolis, I said, because I thought it was at 878 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: the six numbers. Understandable. Yeah, they're there with three now 879 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: because they switched spots with the Indianapolis Colts. But even 880 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: with that trade, Jeff, my argument is, if the Jets 881 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: have one quarterback that's on their mind, there's risk involved 882 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: in moving up just the three, because what if the 883 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: Browns and the Giants choose quarterbacks and one of them 884 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: is the one that they moved up to get. You 885 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: hope that if you're the Jets, you can get the 886 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: guy you really want well, or there's two guys that 887 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: you're content with, which I think that's the plan for them. 888 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: I would have to assume that that was the plan. Now. 889 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: I remember when they were speaking at the owners meeting 890 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: and they were talking about why they moved up. They 891 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: made the claim that there's about six or seven guys 892 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: that they were addressed in Well. People were scratching their 893 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: heads and like, well, what'd you move out of six? Name? 894 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: If there's six or seven guys that you really like, 895 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: you could have got it amid six. So now that 896 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: once again could just be throwing stuff out there and 897 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: it could be all smoked and not much of anything. 898 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: But this is where we're at. We're one week away, though. 899 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: Let's open up the phone lines two zero four or 900 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: five one three lines better? Jeff Feagles with here Thursdays. 901 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: They should a big blue kick off live. Jason is 902 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: in Denmark. Jason, what's happening? It was going online during 903 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: the day. How are you doing? I'm doing fine? Hey. 904 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking that if Barkley is there, I think 905 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: we should go ahead and take him, all right, And 906 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: I think that we shouldn't even mess with a quarterback 907 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: because I have confidence that if Davis Webb is not 908 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback for us, he's at least going to 909 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: be a good backup until we find one. So if 910 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: he lies there for a couple of years, and if 911 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: we and he goes and then we put Web in, 912 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: and if Webb Web doesn't pan out, you know, say 913 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: another year or two, So that's four years. I think 914 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: by then we'll be able to find a quarterback, you know, hopefully. 915 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: You know, well, there's a variety of ways to find 916 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Do the chances decrease as you go lower 917 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: and lower in the draft? Yes, can you make a trade, yes, 918 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: can you pursue a free agent? Yes. It's rare though 919 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: that you're gonna get the quarterback class that happened this season, 920 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: because not many guys have expiring contracts. But I agree 921 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: with you, Jason, I think there's a variety of different 922 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: ways to acquire your quarterback. You also, though, need to 923 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: weigh how often do you think you're gonna be number 924 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 1: two overall? And is there a quarterback that's extremely appealing. 925 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: If there's a quarterback that's extremely appealing and you think 926 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: he stands out from the rest of the packet, he's 927 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: sitting there at too. You have to at least have 928 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: that conversation. You have to I mean you have to 929 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: consider because I agree with you. Elies under contract for 930 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: the next two years. So assuming he stays fully healthy 931 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: and knock on wood, he's been one of the most 932 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: durable quarterbacks in NFL history. You figure it all goes well. 933 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: You can have them through two thousand nineteen, and then 934 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: you'll see what happens after nineteen. So by that time, 935 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: you're right, Davis Webb kick continue to evolve as a quarterback, 936 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: get practice reps. You may take another quarterback later in 937 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 1: the draft, you may sign a free agent. A lot 938 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: could happen. But I still say, if the prospect at 939 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: number two sitting there, you figure is going to be 940 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: a franchise guy, you have to have that conversation. Yeah, 941 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: you take him right on two other things that add um. 942 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: So you know, every time they bring up running back 943 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: as a draft pick, a lot of people say, you know, 944 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: you're don't take him as one, and longevity and so on. Now, 945 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: if you want to compare it to presidencies, we only 946 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 1: have a president for four years, maybe eight if he's 947 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 1: a good president. So to me, a lot of other sports, 948 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: it's like two or four years and players are looking 949 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: at other team, whether it's a money move, whether it's 950 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: just getting on another team. To me, I think the 951 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,439 Speaker 1: NFL is also evolving that way that you know, other 952 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: than quarterback. You know, you hope to get someone for 953 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: ten fifteen years, but most people are in and out 954 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: of there on another team, and I would say four 955 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: to eight years. And I guess it's all hypothetical, but 956 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: for the most part, from what I can see is 957 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people are moving on rather quickly and 958 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,919 Speaker 1: not sticking around twelve years. You have those that ten percent, 959 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: and that to me, I think that the the the 960 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 1: NFL should, you know, stop using this old ferry of 961 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 1: picking in a certain spot at you know, one or two. 962 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: To me, to extent, it shouldn't. It shouldn't matter. You know, 963 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: if you like the guy, you think he's tunding enough, 964 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: you want on a team, you know, take the chance 965 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: and hopefully turns pans out to be a good player, 966 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: player for you for a long time. But I think 967 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: the argument there is that you have to make sure 968 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: it's hard, because what if he doesn't pan out, then 969 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 1: you just get wasted. That but listen, it's hard to 970 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, hindsight at a point in time. I think 971 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 1: it depends on the position a lot of the times, 972 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,479 Speaker 1: Like if I had a tackle, I have a feeling 973 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: that the tackles play a long time. Those guys, they 974 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: really do. They're they're good player. They have a lot 975 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: of Pro Bowls in them, you know. And then you 976 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: look at running backs, they have the propensity to get 977 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: hurt quickly and they could be out. So that's kind 978 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: of the argument I think that people have with the 979 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: running back position opposed to some other position like a 980 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 1: quarterback or alignment and stuff like that. But um, I 981 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: gotta tell you that Squon Barkley, he does not scare 982 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: me at all. I think that he would be an 983 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 1: amazing pick. I think he would be an amazing player, 984 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: and I think he would bring instant credibility to that 985 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: offense that the Giants still definitely need. You bring up 986 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: a good point, Jason, in terms of there is a 987 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: high turnover rate in the NFL. There's no doubt about that. 988 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: But I always say, if you're drafting a guy in 989 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: the top ten, I mean I'd even go further. The 990 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: whole point is you want him to warrant the second 991 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: contract if he doesn't warrant a second contract, because you know, 992 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: you were using your presidency parallel. Now, I would say 993 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: that there's a little bit more money involved when you're 994 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 1: choosing draft picks in the National Football League compared to 995 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: maybe a vote that an individual is making. But you 996 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: want after those four years expire, and then obviously you 997 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: get maybe the fifth year option. You want to say 998 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: to yourself, he showed you enough that prospect that you 999 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: want to give him another court, another contract. If you 1000 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: don't give him another contract, to me, that's a failure 1001 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 1: of a pick. Yeah, okay, that's true. That's true. And 1002 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: then the last thing I had is actually a crazy 1003 00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: dream I had the other night and they were talking 1004 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: about Brady and when he's going to retire and so on, 1005 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: and I had a dream that Tom Brady actually was 1006 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: at the podium and he says he is not going 1007 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: to retire until he plays and beat Eli Manning. That's 1008 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 1: this is the year. He's only got one more year. 1009 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: But hopefully, hopefully he just has to keep going on 1010 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: that the Giants, you know, still be but listen, he 1011 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: keeps eating that avocado ice cream. Who knows how long 1012 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: he's gonna play, by the way, must be totally disgusting. 1013 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: I can't imagine if I got to eat ice cream. 1014 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: Don't beat avocado ice cream, real ice cream, something flavorful. 1015 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: But I let some time. But yeah, I'll talk again soon. 1016 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: Thank Jason, appreciate the phone call. Thanks so much for 1017 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: weighing in all. I always forget to ask Jason what 1018 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: time it is in Denmark. I love to hear. I 1019 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: can look that up for you. We don't. Let's look 1020 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: at eight eight hours, two hours. No, oh, let's see 1021 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: what time right now? It is six thirty five pm 1022 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: in the eve. Oh all right, so yeah, so six 1023 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: hours three excuse me outside, ye, so it's twelve fifty 1024 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: three one two three four or five six hours? All right? 1025 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: Six hours? There you go. So we got to the 1026 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: bottom of and by the way, by the way, the 1027 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,959 Speaker 1: schedule comes out today. The schedule does come you mention, 1028 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: and I know that da Tino. I saw him in 1029 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: the in the I saw him in the Cafeterian. He says, Hey, 1030 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: Jeff passports this year. I just saw that the the 1031 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: the European schedule thing came out. We're not going anywhere, 1032 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,879 Speaker 1: so I guess the Giants are not going over there 1033 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: because they announced I guess the London games and everything 1034 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: you talked about. Okay, I don't think anybody was necessarily 1035 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: worried about the Giants going back over there, considering they 1036 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: went there rather recently when they played the Rams two years. 1037 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: Al Right, let's try to squeeze another quality too. We 1038 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: got Gregg and Roano. Greg, what's happening, Hey, guys, how 1039 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 1: are you doing today? How's every good? I'm well, I'm well. 1040 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk about the number two pick. Obviously, Um, 1041 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,800 Speaker 1: people's kind of agree with you, and I think we 1042 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: need to trade back. Um, I think five or six 1043 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: would be ideal. And there's a lot of reports that 1044 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 1: the Colts want to move back. So Buffalo trade up 1045 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: with the Colts, and I'm looking at and to make 1046 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: the deal happen. The Bills are going to suck for 1047 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: a lot of years. If you've you've looked at their 1048 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: their roster, they're they're not gonna be good next year, 1049 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: regardless if they get their quarterback. They lost their three 1050 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: best offensive linemen. They don't well, they don't have a quarterback. Yeah, 1051 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 1: and their their defense is not what it was a 1052 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 1: few years ago, defense was not too shabby this past season. 1053 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've given the bill Is enough credit. 1054 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 1: Plus what happens. I look at that team and I 1055 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: could Cleveland feeling pretty nice and you know, getting the 1056 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: number four pick from Houston. So these future first round picks, 1057 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 1: if whatever reason, they're not quite as valued, um, if 1058 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,359 Speaker 1: teams are more willing to give those up. I think 1059 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 1: Bills would be a good team if you can get 1060 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: there next year in the following years first along with 1061 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: the number six. I would do that. And my main 1062 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: point would be we we talked, oh, Fitzpatrick being could 1063 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: could be used, or Bradley tub or obviously Nelson, all 1064 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: these players. It's like, yeah, we could use a quarterback, 1065 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: we could use all these players. We could use those guys. Yeah, 1066 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 1: so so we we aren't. We need to understand the 1067 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: value of that number to pick and and if we're 1068 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: trying to win now, then we have to trade back. 1069 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: So if you can get to five or six, there's 1070 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: going to be three quarterbacks taken in the top six 1071 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: guaranteed to me. I I its a great call. Appreciate 1072 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: you will still have your option between Bradley Chubb, uh 1073 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: Se Kwon, Barkley or Nelson, whoever was left of those 1074 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: three positional players. I just believe the value in that 1075 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: number to pick sometimes, in my opinion, is greater than 1076 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: the player. And what I mean by that is that 1077 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: I can get more from that pick from to build 1078 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: a team or did it rather than go after that 1079 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 1: one guy. That's what we're saying, and I'm agreeing with you. 1080 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 1: I think we've got too many holes to just sit 1081 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: there and take a positional player and not understand that 1082 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: teams are desperate for quarterbacks. And if we're not going 1083 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: to take a quarterback and we just sit there and 1084 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: take a positional player, even if we had said Denver 1085 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: was just straight up back to number five and just 1086 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: take your second round pick. Yeah, people like, oh, well 1087 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: you didn't get as many as is the Jets gave 1088 00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: up but or the cold or you know that that trade. Yeah, 1089 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: But the point is, if if we're so closely, if 1090 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: we're not going to take a quarterback and we like 1091 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: those three players, how about you get those three players 1092 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: plus the number two pick. We have so many holes, Well, 1093 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: you certainly want to capitalize on the value of the pick. 1094 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. There. But at the end 1095 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: of the day, you also want to make sure that 1096 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,919 Speaker 1: you're not giving up on somebody that you truly want 1097 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: and appreciate the phone call, Greg, we gotta let you go. 1098 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: We're up against the clock here. I mean, if the 1099 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: Giants are in the number two spot, Jeff, and they 1100 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 1: love Sa Kwan Barkley, it takes a Kwon Barkley. You 1101 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: don't go through your head, well, if we moved down 1102 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 1: to six, there's a chance we'll get Sa Kwon Barkley. 1103 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: There's also a chance that Cleveland takes a Kwon Barkley 1104 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,439 Speaker 1: at four and then he's not even on the board. 1105 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: We have down. You have to commit to there's no 1106 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: looking back. You go with Like I said, you're gonna 1107 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: have a plan, and there's gonna be a B, C, D, E, 1108 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: N F and G and H or whatever. But you've 1109 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 1: got to make sure that when you get to that number, 1110 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: this is our plan. Because of things that have happened 1111 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: before us. You know, Cleveland did this, Cleveland didn't do that. 1112 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,320 Speaker 1: They traded here. We have to be confident in what 1113 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna do and stick with it and move on. 1114 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: And and now you go to the second round, and 1115 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: go get your guy there too, which, by the way 1116 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 1: you think about it, if you had to move down 1117 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: in those two picks down in this first round down 1118 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: to Buffalo, which was like you know, the Lord was, 1119 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 1: Remember you have a second round draft pick coming up 1120 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 1: at number thirty four, which is very high in the 1121 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 1: second round. Yeah, so a thirty fourth pick, so you 1122 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 1: actually could get those three three picks and next year's 1123 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: number one from Buffalo. I'll tell you what you got that. 1124 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: That's a lot of picks in a small portion, but there, 1125 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: but their top fifty picks, their top fifty guys in 1126 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 1: the draft, you could you could presumably maybe get four. Yeah, 1127 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm with you. It's just it's all about what you 1128 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 1: do with the picks. That's the key, as opposed to 1129 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: where you're picking. It's what you do with them. And 1130 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: we're not going to know that until we see how 1131 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: the draft comes to fruation. All right. That is gonna 1132 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 1: wrap things up for us today here on Thursday's dhol 1133 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: a big blue kickoff Lived Thompson and the schedule tonight. Yes. Oh, 1134 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: it's amazing the analysis we're gonna get in terms of 1135 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: breaking down games that are not gonna happen for another 1136 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: few months. With that being said, day tuned Dave Gentleman's 1137 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: pressers at two pm Eastern, Big Blue Kickoff live up 1138 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: and running tomorrow at noon Eastern for Jeff Eagles. 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