1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: stories we're following today, Karen. 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: The rise in futures comes as the S and P 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 3: five hundred is coming off its biggest losing streak since January. 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 3: Stocks fell for a fourth straight day. They're now down 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: more than four percent from their all time high. The 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: declines come as more Federal Reserve officials urge patients on 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: rate cuts. FED Governor Michelle Bowman says the battle against 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 3: inflation continues. 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 4: What we've seen over the past first few months of 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, anyway, is that progress on inflation has slowed, 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 4: and I expect maybe it's even stalled at this point. 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: FED Governor Michelle Bowman's comments were echoed by Cleveland FED 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: President Lorettamester at a separate event. She said the Central 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: Bank should not be in a hurry to cut well. 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: Nathan One FED critics as policymakers should begin the rate 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: cutting process. UBS Global Wealth Management chief economist Paul Donovan 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: says the FED should focus on the positive news regarding 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: its preferred inflation gauge, the PCEE deflator. 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 5: What we do not want in this environment is rising 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 5: real interest rates. Because the economy is slowing. You've got 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 5: the highest interest rates in twenty three years, You've got 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 5: a fiscal drag on growth. The economy is slowing down. 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 5: You don't want to exacipate that with rising retial rates. 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 5: So I think the message needs to be follow the 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: PC de plate to lower ubs. 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: Global Wealth Management chief economist Paul Donovan, speaking yesterday on 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: Bloomberg surveillance, traders now see just one to two rate 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: cuts this year. That's a far cry from the roughly 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: six they expected at the start of twenty twenty four. 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: Back in New York, Karen jury selection resumes today in 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: the hush money trial of Donald Trump. Seven jurors have 35 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: been picked so far in the first ever criminal case 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: against a former president. 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Nathan Trump is facing more pressure from economists in 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: his circle to embrace a flat tax rate. While the 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: former president has not endorsed a flat tax, he has 40 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: called for more middle class tax cuts. Weget details now 41 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg's Amy Morris in Washington. 42 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 6: Steve Forbes, former White House economic advisor Larry Cudlow, and 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 6: economists Steven Moore and author Laffer are not official advisors 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 6: to the Trump campaign, but they are pushing for their 45 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 6: preferred economic policies ahead of a potential second term. Forbes 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 6: is pushing for a flat seventeen percent tax rate for 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 6: all income brackets with exemptions. Cudlow supports renewal of Trump's 48 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 6: twenty seventeen tax cuts, but Laffer says he would support 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 6: lowering the corporate rate even more now. Donald Trump has 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 6: told allies he wants to keep that twenty one percent 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 6: corporate rate in place and instead extend individual cuts to 52 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 6: avoid alienating working class voters. In Washington, Amy Moore as 53 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 6: Bloomberg Radio. 54 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: All right, Amy, thank you. We're learning Donald Trump's campaigns 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: telling other Republicans to pay up if they use the 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: former president's name, image, or likeness in their fundraising solicitations. 57 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: In a campaign memo obtained by Bloomberg News, all candidates 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: and committees who use Trump in their fundraising appeals must 59 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: give a minimum five percent of the funds they raise 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: to the Trump Political Operation. 61 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: Well Nathan, Donald Trump's opponent Joe Biden, is on the 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: campaign trail. Speaking of Pittsburgh, the president vowed to keep 63 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: United States Steel American owned. 64 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 7: US still has been an iconic American company for more 65 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 7: than a century, and it should remain a totally American, 66 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 7: American owned, American operated by American union steel workers, the 67 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 7: best in the world. And that's going to happen, I 68 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 7: promise you. 69 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: In Japan's Nippon Steele plans to acquire US Steel for 70 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: more than fourteen billion dollars. 71 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: And President Biden's talking tougher about China. Karen is. He 72 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: highlights the challenges to its economy. 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 7: They've got a population that is more people in retirement 74 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 7: than working. They're not they're not important to any They're 75 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 7: not bringing there's xenophobic, nobody coming else coming in. They've 76 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 7: got real problems. I'm not looking for a fight with China. 77 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 7: I'm looking for competition, but fair competition. 78 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: To the President's latest letter, it comes two weeks after 79 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: his latest phone call with Chinese President Shi Jinping. The 80 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 3: Chinese economy did grow faster than expected in the first quarter, 81 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 3: but there are still questions about the strength of that recovery. 82 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, more pressure could be coming for China from Congress. 83 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: The House is on a fast track to approve the 84 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: bill aimed at forcing a sale of TikTok. Speaker Mike 85 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: Johnson plans to include it in the aid package for 86 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: Ukraine in Israel that he's teed up for votes on Saturday. 87 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Two Republicans have threatened to try to oust Johnson over 88 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: foreign aid, but the Speaker is undaunted. 89 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 8: My philosophy is you do the right thing and you 90 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 8: let the chips fall where they may. I don't if 91 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 8: I operated out of fear over emotion to vacate, I 92 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 8: would never be able to do my job. 93 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson has already passed the TikTok bill in the House. 94 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Attaching it to the foreign aid bill could force the 95 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: Senate to accept it as a condition for supporting Israel 96 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: and Ukraine. 97 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: Well Karen Senate Democrats have not accepted impeachment articles against 98 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Majorcis. They have tossed the charges. 99 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Dan Schwartzman has. 100 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 9: That Democrats in the Senate voted to dismiss both articles 101 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 9: of impeachment against Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Majorkis. The vote 102 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 9: was mostly along party lines, except for Alaska Republican Lisa 103 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 9: Rokowski voting president on a measure to toss the first 104 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 9: impeachment article. Republicans have accused Maiorkis of refusing to enforce 105 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 9: immigration laws. The secretary is the first sitting cabinet member 106 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 9: in US history to be impeached. Democrats say the measure 107 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 9: was unconstitutional because it didn't meet the constitutional bar of 108 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 9: a high crime or misdemeanor. Republicans accused Democrats of failing 109 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 9: to take the charges against Majorcis seriously and that the 110 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 9: American people deserve to hear the evidence. Dan Schwartzman, Bloomberg Radio. 111 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: All right, Dan, thanks now back to the Marcus. Keeping 112 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: an eye on chip stocks this morning. Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing 113 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: expects revenue to rise as much is thirty percent this quarter. 114 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: The better than projected outlook follows its first profit rise 115 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: in a year after strong AI demand revived growth at 116 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: the world's biggest contract chip maker. TSMC is the main 117 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: chip maker for Nvidia and Apple, and. 118 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: Shares of Micron Technology are on the rise as well, Karen. 119 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: They're up two and a half percent in early trading. 120 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: The largest US maker of computer memory chips, this poised 121 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: to get six point one million dollars billion dollars I 122 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: should say billion with a B in grants from the 123 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: Commerce Department to help pay for domestic factory projects. This 124 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: is all part of an effort to bring semiconductor production 125 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: back to US soil. 126 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: And it's time now for a look at some of 127 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: the other stories making news in New York and around 128 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: the world. And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker. John, 129 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: Good morning and. 130 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 8: Good morning, Karen. Republicans have VOP held the Arizona abortion ban. 131 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 8: Let's get more on that story this morning from Bloomberg 132 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 8: Steve Podisc. 133 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 10: Republicans in the Arizona State House Block two attempts Wednesday 134 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 10: to repeal the state's one hundred and sixty year old 135 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 10: near total ban on abortion, despite pressure on the GOP, 136 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 10: including from former President Donald Trump, to change course on 137 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 10: the hot button issue. But later in the day, two 138 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 10: Senate Republicans joined with Democrats and up to create a 139 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 10: majority to move forward with their version of a repeal. 140 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 10: A final vote on the bill could be weeks away. 141 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 10: If the Senate does ultimately vote to repeal the ban, 142 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 10: the measure would go back to the House, where it 143 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 10: would still face. 144 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 8: A difficult path. Steve Podisk Bloomberg Radio two hearings on 145 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 8: Capitol Hill focused on Boeing. In the first, a report 146 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 8: exposed holes in the safety culture at the company. Three 147 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 8: witnesses backed it up with testimony for senators. The second 148 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 8: hearing featured a former Boeing engineer and saying the airplane 149 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 8: manufacture is not up to par. Senator Richard bluminthalf Connecticut 150 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 8: had this message for the flying public. 151 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 11: The aircraft as a whole may be safe insofar as 152 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 11: people getting on planes shouldn't panic, but they need to 153 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 11: be made fully safe. 154 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 8: Speaking to ABC, President Biden will be endorsed by more 155 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 8: than a dozen members of the Kennedy family at an 156 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 8: event today in Philadelphia as he looks to blunt the 157 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 8: outsider presidential bid of Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Biden will 158 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 8: be introduced by Kerry Kennedy, the sister of the third 159 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 8: party candidate, and joined by fellow siblings. Poll suggests that 160 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 8: Robert F. Kennedy Junior, whose promoted conspiracy theories, could place 161 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 8: spoiler as mister Biden seeks to win reelection. And Google 162 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 8: fired twenty eight employees after they were involved in protests 163 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 8: against Project Nimbus, a one point two billion dollar joint 164 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 8: contract with Amazon to provide the Israeli government with AI 165 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 8: and cloud services. The protests took place across Google offices 166 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 8: in New York City, Seattle, and Sunnyvale, California. Global News 167 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 8: twenty four hours a day and whenever you wanted with 168 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 8: Bloomberg News. Now, I'm John Tucker, and VC is Bloomberg 169 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 8: Karen and Nathan. 170 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: All right, John, thank you time now for the Bloomberg 171 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: Sports Update with John stash Hour. John, Good morning, Good. 172 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 12: Morning, Karen's looking like the Knicks are going to continue 173 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 12: their long history of playoff series with Miami. The Heat 174 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 12: had a fourteen points second half lete in Philadelphia. The 175 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 12: fans were booing the Sixers. Philly came alive rally to 176 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 12: win one oh five to one to oh four. Joe 177 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 12: lmb twenty three points, fifteen rebounds, Nick patuone with twenty 178 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 12: off the bench. Tyrese Maxi scored nineteen. Was then asked 179 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 12: about now facing the Knicks. 180 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 13: They're extremely grinding team. They play hard, they're physical, and 181 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 13: they're tough, and that's their identity. So for us to 182 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 13: go in there and try to get w's and try 183 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 13: to win this series, we have to mess that and 184 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 13: not just matchup. But we have to overcome that and 185 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 13: be better than that in n be extremely physical as well. 186 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 12: Game one Saturday at the Garden, the Heat, who came 187 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 12: out of the play in the play in last year's 188 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 12: NBA Finals, now go home to play Chicago tomorrow. The 189 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 12: Bulls beat Atlanta one thirty one, one sixteen. Kobe White 190 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 12: scored forty two points. The winner of that game tomorrow 191 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 12: will then take on the Celtics and the NFL playoff 192 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 12: matchups set in the East, not yet in the West. 193 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 12: Although Dallas did win the winch the West one seed 194 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 12: the playoff found Islanders finished the regular season with another win, 195 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 12: five to four over Pittsburgh in Toronto. Looked like another 196 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 12: quiet game for Yankee Bats. They trailed the Blue Jays 197 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 12: four to one eighth inning, looked like they'd come home 198 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 12: with a four game losing the Street, but Juan Soto 199 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 12: homeward in the eighth. Jack Carlos Stands on the ninth 200 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 12: Yanks scored again, and then with the game tied, Aaron 201 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 12: Judge a two run single, Yanks won six to four. 202 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 12: Judge with a hit, raising his average till one eighty three. 203 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 12: A couple of x Yanks helped the Mets finish a 204 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 12: home sweep of the Pirates. Find the pitching of Luis Savarino, 205 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 12: A homer by Harrison Vader, The Mets one ninety one, 206 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 12: John Stashedward, Bloomberg Sports, Karen Nathan. 207 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: All Right, John Thanks SMP futures have a quarter percent 208 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: or twelve points down, futures up, a tenth of a 209 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: percent or forty points NASDAK futures at four tenths of 210 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: percent or seventy points tenure Treasury yields four point five 211 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: seven percent. 212 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 11: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 213 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 11: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 214 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 11: Bloomberg Business app. 215 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg day Break Morning. I'm Nathan Hager, JP, 216 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: Morgan Chase CEO. Jamie Diamond has made no secret that 217 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: his firm is all in on artificial intelligence. In fact, 218 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: this month, he devoted a pretty significant chunk of his 219 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: annual shareholder letter to the importance of the technology for 220 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: the Wall Street Giants business and for society at large. 221 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: In the premiere episode of the second season of The Circuit, 222 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: Jamie Diamond joined Bloomberg Original's host and executive producer Emily 223 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: Chang to discuss the opportunity offered by AI. Before that, though, 224 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: Emily asked Jamie Diamond, if JP Morgan, the world's largest 225 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: publicly listed bank, is now too large, let's go to 226 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: part of their conversation. 227 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 14: Now. 228 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 15: I think the question is what works for consumers and 229 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 15: industries and stuff like that. So you know, if you 230 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 15: want to build a Boeing aircraft, you have to be big. 231 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 15: You can pretend that you don't if you want to 232 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 15: do what JP Morgan does. We move ten trillion dollars 233 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 15: of money around the world every day. We bank some 234 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 15: of these companies in thirty countries. We bank trees, We 235 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 15: bank the World Bank, the IMF, we bank the United 236 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 15: States government. You have to be big. You can't do 237 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 15: those things and be small. I applaud the small banks. 238 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 15: We're the biggest bank, community banks and regional banks and 239 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 15: stuff like that. 240 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 14: And I understand, you know, some of the stress around it. 241 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 14: We're trying to help. So it's not either or so. 242 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 16: Going a little bigger picture. Now, you run the biggest 243 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 16: bank in the world, you have our money, You've got 244 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 16: world leaders on speed dial. That's a lot of power. 245 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 16: How do you decide when and how to wield that power. 246 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm not sure. 247 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 15: I have a lot of people at speed, doll you 248 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 15: say all that, Sometimes I think I'm just riding the 249 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 15: Bronco and hanging out for deal life. You know, I 250 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 15: love what I do. I try to talk that around. 251 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 15: I try to keep my mind open. One of the 252 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 15: benefits from traveling the world. I just in Mumbai, in 253 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 15: Switzerland and seeing clients. You learn a lot and you 254 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 15: try to make sure you're that you're doing the proper 255 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 15: assessment of the world, that you're looking at the options. 256 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 14: You're not like just saying we're going to do this. 257 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 15: I look as part of our job to try to 258 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 15: have countries to help country do the best they can 259 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 15: for their citizens. 260 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 14: So we bank countries. 261 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 15: We also advise them on skills and trade and economics. 262 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 15: You look at our research, it's a lot around how's 263 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 15: an economy run. So when you go to like when 264 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 15: I got back from Mumbai, we research one hundred and 265 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 15: fifty companies now or something like that. So we're educating 266 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 15: the world about those companies. We're educating the world but 267 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 15: the Indian economy. As we do that, we indicate also 268 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 15: educate the Indians about what works in their economy and 269 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 15: what doesn't work, and those are important things to lift 270 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 15: up society. 271 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 16: You've got this reputation as a sort of white Night 272 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 16: for the economy. Do you ever feel pressure to come 273 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 16: in with the save? 274 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 15: I feel a tremendous amount of pressure to do Obviously 275 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 15: my family comes first, okay, but to do a great 276 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 15: job for my company and our clients. But I also 277 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 15: feel a huge burn to do a good job for 278 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 15: my country. So you know, when my country wants me 279 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 15: to do something, and we talk all the time to 280 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 15: you know, their senators and regulators, what can we do 281 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 15: to make the system better, to lift up the country, 282 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 15: lift up. 283 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 14: In the cities. 284 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 15: We're trying to figure out how to make society better, 285 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 15: and I do consider that. 286 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 14: Part of our job. 287 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 16: I know you mentioned chet GPT and your annual letter. 288 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 16: Have you tried it? 289 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 14: Yeah? If I had my phone, i'd show you. 290 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 16: What do you use it for? 291 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 14: I just ask you questions like what I don't remember? 292 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 14: What'sda bee chain going to ask me? 293 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 16: We've got a top notch group investigating AI. What are 294 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 16: they up to? What's the next level of finance you 295 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 16: think AI can unlock? 296 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 14: Yeah? 297 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 15: So I think the most important thing is that it's 298 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 15: AI is real. We already have thousands of people doing it, 299 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 15: top scientists around their own Manu level Velosa from who 300 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 15: ran Carnegie Mellon machine learning. And it's a living breathing thing. 301 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 15: So people want to answer, what's going to do. It's 302 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 15: a living breathing thing. 303 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 14: It's going to change. 304 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 15: They're going to be all different types of models and 305 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 15: different types of tools and technology. 306 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 14: But the way to think about for us. 307 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 15: Is every single process, so errors, trading, hedging, research, every 308 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 15: app every database, you can be applying AI. So it 309 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 15: might be as a copilot, it might be to replace humans. 310 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 15: You know, AI is doing all the equity hedging for us. 311 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 15: For the most part, it's idea generation, it's large language models. 312 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 15: It's no taking while you're talking to someone and whiles 313 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 15: taking notes and may actually say to you that, you know, 314 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 15: here's the thing of interest to climb by Peterston. 315 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 14: All error, all customer service. It's a little bit of everything. 316 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 16: But it is going to replace some jobs, of course. 317 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 15: Yeah, but I look, folks, people have to take a 318 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 15: deep breath. Okay, technologies always replaced jobs. Your children will 319 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 15: live to one hundred and not have cancer because of 320 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 15: technology and literally they'll probably be working three. 321 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 14: And a half days a week. 322 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 15: So technology has done unbelievable things from mankind. You know, 323 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 15: planes crash, pharmacials get misused. There are negatives. This is 324 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 15: one of the biggest negative in my view, is AI 325 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 15: being used by bad people to do bad things, think 326 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 15: of cyber but you know the fact and I do 327 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 15: think you know, eventually have legal guardrails around. It's kind 328 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 15: of hard to do because it's new, but it will 329 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 15: add a huge value. And you know, for JP Morgan 330 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 15: if it replaces jobs and. 331 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 14: We hope to redeploy people. 332 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 16: So is there going to be a point where I 333 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 16: can turn to chat JPM and say I have thirty 334 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 16: years or I want to get rich quick? What should 335 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 16: I do with my money? 336 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 14: Well, the rich quick? 337 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 15: I hope it tells you that you're crazy. Yeah, but 338 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 15: we in some ways can do a little bit ray today. 339 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 15: And you know, usually if you look at like wealth 340 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 15: plans that we have, which I think are quite good, 341 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 15: they have a lot of AI em better than that. 342 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 14: And if soon I'll have more AI. 343 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Today, your morning brief on the 344 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: stories making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 345 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed at six am 346 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, and anywhere else you 347 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 348 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning starting at five 349 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: am Wall Street Time, on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 350 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine to one in Washington, 351 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: Bloomberg one oh six to one in Boston, and Bloomberg 352 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: ninety sixty in San Francisco. 353 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 354 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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