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Speaker 1: is up Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire

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Speaker 1: for Tuesday, January ninth. It's a good good morning, everybody,

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Speaker 1: very good morning. When you go heavy on Michigan posted

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Speaker 1: a bunch of props. It wasn't quite a clean sweet,

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Speaker 1: but it was damn near close. Michigan rolls, and I

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Speaker 1: mean rolls Washington in a game that maybe felt close

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Speaker 1: ish for a quarter and change. Michigan, as we like

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Speaker 1: to say, played with their food for probably a good

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Speaker 1: three fourty three? They jumped to the lead early, and

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Speaker 1: it's something of an anti climactic college football game. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know where Rob's gonna follow on this. I

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Speaker 1: greatly enjoyed it, obviously because I had Michigan, but I

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Speaker 1: was happy to see Horball get the dub. I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people we're not and this Michigan kind

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Speaker 1: I mean Michigan back to back playoff appearances folks fifteen

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Speaker 1: and oh, this year thirteen and one, last year twenty

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Speaker 1: of these incendiary takes to start the day. And it's

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Speaker 1: weird because the history in college football in the playoff

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Speaker 1: is We've had some good playoff games, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of rotten natties. You have to go back. The last

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Speaker 1: close National championship game was played in January of twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and that was the game Georgia led I think twenty

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Speaker 1: to zero. Alabama storms back behind a quarterback change at halftime.

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Speaker 1: Tua comes on to replace Jalen Hurts, both those guys

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Speaker 1: Tua throws the awesome and I mean awesome touchdown pass

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Speaker 1: in overtime to beat Georgia. And then all the games

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Speaker 1: since that have been double digits, often by twenty plus.

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Speaker 1: So this is not like a big chakra. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people complaining to me, even my buddies over text,

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Speaker 1: this game sucks. Get the SEC and there I'm like, guys,

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Speaker 1: what are we talking about here? Like this was this

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Speaker 1: is par for the course in college football. There are

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Speaker 1: haves and have nots, and this year we had a

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Speaker 1: damn good Michigan team littered with fifteen to twenty NFL

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Speaker 1: draft picks. Jim Harbaugh expects them to set the record

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Speaker 1: coming from. Penix got lit up, and you know there

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Speaker 1: was a great stat from the broadcast. So Michael Pennix

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Speaker 1: led college football with I believe forty five passes of

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Speaker 1: twenty or more air yards this season, right, and he

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Speaker 1: I mean he killed him. Michigan as we predicted here

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Speaker 1: Rob oh for six on those deep passes. Penix just

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Speaker 1: And this is like the Jim Harbaugh story. He goes places,

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Speaker 1: Just think about this for a second. Jim Harbaugh started

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Speaker 1: believe rich Rod twenty fifteen. He goes ten and three.

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Speaker 1: it's like a different Michigan team. Twelve and two finished

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Speaker 1: How do I get like a really good job paying

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Speaker 1: just it doesn't work that way. You know, the elevator

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Speaker 1: and it just doesn't happen overnight. And in college football,

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Speaker 1: Jim Harba goes to Michigan and as they sputter, we

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Speaker 1: That's right, good call, And like you gotta be happy,

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Speaker 1: I'm glossing it over because I had Michigan. I had

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Speaker 2: So I'm a little bit salty right now to recording

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Speaker 2: though it was a loss, that epic Rose Bowl game

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Speaker 2: What they are going to remember is this season. Everything

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Speaker 2: that this team overcame. That they're going to remember that

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Speaker 2: he didn't pick but last night against Michigan, everything that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with most of that. You know

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Speaker 1: So he came in with the injury because he got

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Speaker 1: the first carry of the game. He goes, you know,

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Speaker 1: in between the tackles and then he gets rolled up

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Speaker 1: on and he has to come out of the game

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Speaker 1: and like that. Guys are horse these are bellcal and

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Speaker 1: don't think Michigan feared it and they could just kind

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Speaker 1: a scrambler. He can run. I think he had one

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Speaker 1: run or two, but like they didn't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about a run game. It just felt like, you know,

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Speaker 1: everything went Michigan's way pretty much in this one, and

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Speaker 1: what happens with the transfer portal. I'm sure. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: some people listening to this saw it. Within I don't

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Speaker 1: put that out there on social media. Ohio State, they're

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Speaker 1: broke out of the tackle, so he was like frustrated.

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Speaker 1: came across during the Natty that some of you guys

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Speaker 1: may miss. Ja Morant, who served a twenty five game

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Speaker 1: suspension to start the season, suffered a laborm injury and

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Speaker 1: his season is over season ending shoulder surgery, a devastating

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Speaker 1: blow to Memphis Grizzlies, to Jahn Morant. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna go overboard and make this like a huge deal,

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Speaker 1: but let's be real. Ja Moran is an electrifying talent,

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Speaker 1: a skywalker. He dunked on Webbin Yama, it goes viral,

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah, Rob, we need to be real about something.

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Speaker 1: If he wants his ceiling to be like you know,

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Speaker 1: pre MVP Russell Westbrook, who was a guy who could

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Speaker 1: not shoot but was athletic as hell, if he wants

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Speaker 1: that to be his career. Then, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: he's probably already done the best he can do and

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Speaker 1: he's just gonna put up great stats, can drive to

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Speaker 1: the hoop, and he's gonna have a few more years

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Speaker 1: of that as the athleticism continues. But the injuries, the suspensions,

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Speaker 1: he was hurting the playoffs las year against the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: the suspension, and now another injury. Listen, I'm not bashing

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Speaker 1: the guy because he's you know, obviously he's very down

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Speaker 1: and Memphis fans are jammed up. They've now lost him

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Speaker 1: and Steven Adams to season ending surgery. It's over. They're

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Speaker 1: not gonna make the playoffs. But Rob, if I'm advising

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Speaker 1: John in any way, shape or form, and I know

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be tough because he's you know, famous and

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Speaker 1: a big deal in Memphis, I'm telling him, Bro, listen,

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Speaker 1: you play a brand of basketball that is Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 1: Allen Iverson ish. If you don't develop a reliable three

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Speaker 1: point shot, I don't know what your career is gonna

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Speaker 1: look like in like six or seven years. I think

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Speaker 1: we've really got like he's got to get in the

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Speaker 1: lab and fix a shot, whatever it takes fixed the shot,

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Speaker 1: and I know him be a critical when the guys

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Speaker 1: is done for the season. It stinks. But Rob, that's

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Speaker 1: just me being honest, Like I'm not the biggest jam

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Speaker 1: Moran fan, but the league needs him right he he

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Speaker 1: came in with Ion. Those two were supposed to like

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Speaker 1: be the next American stars. It ain't happening yet. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess you could call Jaw a star when it

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Speaker 1: comes to merch and fans and all that stuff highlights,

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Speaker 1: but you know they need him in the playoffs. They

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Speaker 1: need a deep playoff run. Rob, I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know. Are we gonna see Have we

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Speaker 1: seen the best of Jamran?

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Speaker 2: Yes? And that's unfortunate because he was supposed to be

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Speaker 2: the guy you know before last season even this was

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Speaker 2: on the heels of like the Bubble run that he

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Speaker 2: had there or or that that playoff. Yet I don't

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Speaker 2: know if he did he play in the bubble. I

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Speaker 2: know that he may him and Donovan Mitchell. I think

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Speaker 2: I put up some huge numbers. I have to go

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Speaker 2: ahead and double check that. But he was supposed to

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Speaker 2: be the guy NBA social media was touting as recently

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Speaker 2: as two years ago that John Morant was the second

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Speaker 2: most watched player on NBA social media channels behind Lebron James. Wow,

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Speaker 2: and that says a lot, because you know, Lebron is

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Speaker 2: a global brand. So there's guys in China and Czechoslovakia

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Speaker 2: pick your favorite country outside of the US, and they

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Speaker 2: know Lebron James, maybe they know Steph Curry and that's it.

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Speaker 2: And John Morant was the guy who was transcending all

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Speaker 2: of it because of his style of play. Unfortunately for

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Speaker 2: him and unfortunately for the rest of US basketball fans,

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Speaker 2: that same electric style of play that made him so marketable,

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Speaker 2: that made him such a big star, that made him

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Speaker 2: what many believe to be the next great American born

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Speaker 2: NBA star, is what ultimately is gonna be derailing his

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Speaker 2: NBA career. Look no further than Derek Rose. Derek Rose

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Speaker 2: is the closest thing we've seen in terms of style

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Speaker 2: of play to Moran. People forget during that Derek Rose

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Speaker 2: the height of his game when he won the MVP.

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Speaker 2: He never had a reliable jump shot. He played for

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Speaker 2: a team with Tom Thibodau in Chicago that defended like hell,

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Speaker 2: and it was Derek Rose yaming on guys at six ' three,

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Speaker 2: just rising up over everybody. He didn't matter who was

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Speaker 2: in front of him, didn't bet he had Lebron in

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Speaker 2: front of him, if he had Roy Hibbert, shout out

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Speaker 2: to Roy Hibbert and verticality, and he was dunking on

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Speaker 2: him too, didn't matter who they had in the paint.

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Speaker 2: And then as soon as the knee injury started to

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Speaker 2: trickle in, he kind of faded off into oblivion. And

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Speaker 2: it sucks because Derek Rose, by all accounts, is a

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Speaker 2: well respected, great guy, but his game was predicated on

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Speaker 2: elite athleticism. John Moran up until this point, is predicated

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Speaker 2: on elite athleticism. You can't even say that he's the

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Speaker 2: defender or the distributor that Russell Westbrook. He didn't even

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Speaker 2: have that to his game. He's a high octane scoring

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Speaker 2: small point guard. And if he doesn't have athleticism, if

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00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: he's gonna keep crashing to the floor every game because

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Speaker 2: he throws his body in the air with reckless abandon

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Speaker 2: his career. I'm not gonna say it's gonna get cut short,

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Speaker 2: but it's gonna be left unfulfilled.

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Speaker 1: I would agree it's a little sad. I mean and

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Speaker 1: I'm not even a jog guy. I've kind of been

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Speaker 1: blasting a mirror. He's been in trouble with the law.

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Speaker 1: But hope he gets healthy soon. The league needs him

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Speaker 1: bottom line. All Right, that's it for college football and

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Speaker 1: for today's podcast. We are back tomorrow, back to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: A lot of playoff chatter. I added a couple bets

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Speaker 1: Talk to you then,