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Speaker 1: Ron Ananian.

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Speaker 2: And as somebody on Chrysler techline told me this week,

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Speaker 2: he said, you know, you shouldn't notify the customer that

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Speaker 2: they're probably going to replace every part on that car

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Speaker 2: by the time it has one hundred thousand miles in.

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Speaker 2: And I said, well, there's a there's an endorsement of

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Speaker 2: a brand like really about you meet me here? While

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Speaker 2: bringing in the Car Doctor, you changed push rod length? Correct, right? I?

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Speaker 3: Yeh did that?

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Speaker 2: All right? That should be set so that there's just

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Speaker 2: a NAT's eyelash of play between the push rod and

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Speaker 2: the booster.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Ananian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors are.

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Speaker 2: Opening, but I am here to take your calls at

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Speaker 2: eight five five five six ninety nine hundred and now

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Speaker 2: he running, ye huh ah, here we are. You know,

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Speaker 2: I just said to someone in the studio here the

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Speaker 2: support staff. I was telling her, I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: here we are. We beginning our last show of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three. Who would have thunkd you know, just broadcasting

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Speaker 2: away all these years, and what a great time it's been.

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Speaker 2: We're really enjoying ourselves. So I'm happy to be here

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Speaker 2: for everybody in the happy New Year to all hope

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Speaker 2: everybody is safe and content. Let's open the phone lines

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Speaker 2: right away. Let's sa we got a busy hour. Let's

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Speaker 2: go over to Bill and Michigan Oh nine, Chevy and

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Speaker 2: Pala and some cold startup issues. Bill. Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: car doctor, sir, how can I help?

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Speaker 4: Thank you and Tom for having me on run. This

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Speaker 4: is a three five V six flex fuel with one

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Speaker 4: hundred and thirteen thousand miles. I'm looking for some diagnostic

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Speaker 4: direction on this. Let me give you the sequence.

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Speaker 5: YEP.

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Speaker 4: On a cold soak, usually twelve hours overnight. The first start,

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Speaker 4: you turn the key, let it prime. You try to

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Speaker 4: start it. It will stumble, chug and spit for about

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Speaker 4: ten to fifteen seconds times. Sometimes you can clear it

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Speaker 4: out by stepping on the accelerator. About ten percent of

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Speaker 4: the time you have to use the clear flood mode

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Speaker 4: to get it to start. The only code in it

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Speaker 4: is a P zero four fifty five, which is a

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Speaker 4: large evapp leak. I don't know why. I don't have

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Speaker 4: any misfire codes ron, but I have not checked mode six.

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Speaker 4: Put a fuel pressure gauge on it, fifty five to

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Speaker 4: fifty eight at startup. After three hours it drops to forty,

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Speaker 4: and after twelve it's at zero. I suspect a canister

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Speaker 4: perge valve, so I did a vacuum test on that.

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Speaker 4: That was not the problem. My other thought is a

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Speaker 4: coolant temperature sensor that's sending the wrong message to a computer,

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Speaker 4: or a leaky fuel injector. I'm not using any coolant.

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Speaker 4: I have no fuel smell in the oil.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's let's do this. Bill. You've got a

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Speaker 2: decent scan tool, I'm sure from the sounds of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I've got to launch a Millennium ninety all.

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Speaker 2: Right, So you know, on cold start, turn the key on.

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Speaker 2: Does coolant and intake air match to the two sensors match? Right?

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Speaker 2: If it's been sitting eight hours, they should be within

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Speaker 2: five degrees of each other, Okay, simple enough. If it's

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Speaker 2: if it's fifty five degrees out, you should see fifty

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Speaker 2: five degrees between fifty five and sixty. Let's take coolant sensors,

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Speaker 2: wiring intake off the table. We know it's good, right,

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Speaker 2: Where's where's what's throttle angle? When it's you know, on

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Speaker 2: that cold startup, you'll probably see it cycle. You know,

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Speaker 2: if you start to watch that and just get in

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Speaker 2: it does when it's good, and if it's the same

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Speaker 2: when it's bad, we can take throttle angle off the table. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so let's just eliminate that just for giggles. Oh and

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Speaker 2: one last thing before I go for the giggles, let's

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Speaker 2: go look at engine manifold vacuum. Now you've either got

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Speaker 2: inverted or you've got a true map sensor on an

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Speaker 2: engine today. So you're either going to see barometric pressure

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Speaker 2: go and it's easy to do. Just go Google search

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Speaker 2: barrow barometric pressure where I am, and it'll tell you

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Speaker 2: or you're going to see you know, you'll see thirteen

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Speaker 2: That'll take us longer than two hours to explain. We'll

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Speaker 4: And yeah, and we should be straightforward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and we kind of know how much

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Speaker 2: we've got a whole bunch of information. We kind of

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Speaker 2: know where we are. If you've got a scope by chance,

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Speaker 2: you know, just for the heck of it, there's a

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Speaker 2: really neat relative compression test you can do using AC

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Speaker 2: that's a whole nother conversation. But that's possible too, But

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to be your issue. Okay,

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Speaker 2: when the engine is warm, I want you to go

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Speaker 2: Google search volumetric efficiency test. Go out to the Automotive

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Speaker 2: Training Group website and they talk about volumetric efficiency. If

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Speaker 2: you can drive a car, you can do a volumetric

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Speaker 2: efficiency test using a scan tools. It's kind of idiot proof,

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Speaker 2: you know, I would tell you to try it on

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Speaker 2: looks like. You understand the concept, and you know we're

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Speaker 2: just testing things. Is anything skewed? Does does it pass

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Speaker 2: volumetric efficiency? Does it pass calculated load? I want you

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Speaker 2: to stop looking at it. Only does it cold for

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Speaker 2: like when it's warm, all right. And you know I

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Speaker 2: at this point, all right, when you go through all

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Speaker 2: these things and all the obvious stuff. And Bill, I

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Speaker 2: know you, we've talked for years. You know. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you've done your due diligence. You've looked at wiring harness,

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Speaker 2: you and when it gets consistently when the engine is cold,

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Speaker 4: Really, just don't just.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell mama. All right, well maybe better sho might

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Speaker 2: cook it for dinner the next day, right, and let

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Speaker 2: If if it if it has the problem, guess what,

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Speaker 2: you got a bad computer, right, because it's only on

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Speaker 4: So that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, was it was? It? Was it there this summer

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Speaker 4: No, it's been there for about a year. I did

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Speaker 4: brought it up to know. She just bought this car

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Speaker 4: and it's it's been consistent. Now. She took it somewhere

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Speaker 4: Ron and they put a throttle body on it about

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Speaker 4: eight months ago. Okay, that didn't seem to make any

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Speaker 4: that she had the accelerator pedal problem.

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Speaker 2: That okay, all right, And if the CHILDCM concept doesn't

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Speaker 2: the pin out on wiring for the throttle body, all right,

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Speaker 2: solid five vaults all the time, all right, all right?

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Speaker 2: And you know, does it differentiate? And you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: gets you. You know, this is a mass airflow car, correct.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is, so, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I always do this towards the end of my

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Speaker 2: I just try to be mechanical about it, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I'm leary to do this on a

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Speaker 2: some kind of backup mode. Does the car have the

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Speaker 2: I pull a vacuum line off. Is it looking for

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Speaker 2: more air? You know? What's it looking for? It's it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's it's it's burping and missing because

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Speaker 2: there's an imbalance in the fuel mixture. If I if

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Speaker 2: I open up a vacuum line a PCV something, you know,

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Speaker 2: if I manually change fuel trim, does it straighten the

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Speaker 2: tells me number one, it's not compression, all right, it's

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Speaker 2: you could have bad fuel trim all day long. If

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Speaker 4: So after it's warm run, I don't have any problems.

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Speaker 4: It's just the first start out for the cold.

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Speaker 2: So well, you know, and the manifest The one thing

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Speaker 2: I always think about on cold startups and mechanical problems.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget the jeep with the with the valve

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Speaker 2: seat that kept falling out of the head when it

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Speaker 2: was cold and then when it warmed up. Then when

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Speaker 2: it warmed up, you know, the sheet would stay stuck

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Speaker 2: it's it's and it didn't do it every time, you know,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it just that's why al it that's why

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Speaker 2: half the hair is gray now. But you know it

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Speaker 2: taught me the meaning of jeep junk, each and every part.

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Speaker 2: But you know that's a story for another.

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Speaker 4: Day, all right, Bill, Amen, yeahs N. I really appreciate

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Speaker 4: the time, and this is priceless information. Thank you. I

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Speaker 4: will follow this and.

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Speaker 2: Let you know how, let us know how it works out.

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Speaker 2: You're very welcome, Be well, happy New Year, and be safe.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ron an Ay in the Car Doctor. We are

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Speaker 2: back right after this. Don't go away for the best

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Speaker 2: in car advice. Give Ron a call eight five five

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Speaker 2: five six zero nine nine zero zero. Now back to Ron. Hey,

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Speaker 2: let's go to California and visit aj aj. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the Car Doctor, sir, how can I help?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Thanks a lot for taking me man. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: And it was nice to talk with Tom this morning.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he told you about my connection

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Speaker 3: to you and your dad and Steve Army air course stuff,

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Speaker 3: but I'd love to talk to you about that.

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Speaker 2: But maybe now, but yeah, not now, all fairs, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely, brother, I understand one hundred percent what's what's

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Speaker 2: And you're saying the check engine light comes on? What

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Speaker 3: I did find several of them that I tried to address,

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Speaker 2: Give me the give a j Give me the numbers

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Speaker 2: Okay, so so here, let's let's let's do this. You

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Speaker 2: All right? So you know I would want to look

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Speaker 2: Uho, I don't think so. All right, this is a

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Speaker 2: Two fourteen should be a camshaff position sensor fault. All right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and my friends who recommended me have four vehicles

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Speaker 2: You've got to ask him what's it going to take

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Speaker 2: we're going to end up the time and cover? I

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Speaker 2: understand it was common those timing covers leaked oil all

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Speaker 2: So you know, that's the best danswers I've got because

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Speaker 2: I got a real nice letter from Brian. Brian, if

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Speaker 2: I believe it's in Delaware or Maryland. Rod. I've been

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Speaker 2: We had VOTECH when I went to school, and nobody

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Speaker 2: My honest answer was I've made a lot of mistakes.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that, you know what, I've made a

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Speaker 2: the rabbit hole and not realizing it until I stood back,

431
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 2: looked at what you've built and said, what the heck

432
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: was I thinking? I don't want to do that again.

433
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 4: You know what?

434
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 2: How many times we get into that where we're going

435
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 2: down the rabbit hole and you're like, how did I

436
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 2: get down the rabbit hole? How did I get here?

437
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: But I think that's I think that's part of the education.

438
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 2: I think that's part of the process. And I think

439
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 2: that's part of because I know where this question in

440
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: comment is going in terms of you know, where do

441
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 2: we get mechanics, Where do we get people interested in

442
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: the trades again? You know, we've got to nurture that.

443
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: We don't nurture it, we expect And I really wonder

444
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: where where And I think the crush point is here now.

445
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: But I wonder when the public learns that that if

446
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 2: you walked into the average dealership the next time you

447
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 2: go buy a new car, do this the next time

448
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: you go buy a new car, everybody, they're going to

449
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: give you the tour of the service department. Right start

450
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 2: looking at the age of number one, the service writers.

451
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being a service writer.

452
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: But you know, most of the service writers now are older,

453
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: or the senior ones are anyway, I think. But inside

454
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: the shop itself, look at the texts. You know, there's

455
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: there's more and more gray hairs, as I call them,

456
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: and I'm one of them, so I'm allowed to say that,

457
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 2: and it's it's senior texts. There are there are some

458
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: very promising, very up and coming younger technicians. You know,

459
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 2: the question becomes, you know, they've got to learn. I

460
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: think there's a five to seven year learning curve to

461
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: really understand mechanics, to really understand what it takes to

462
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 2: solve the problem. You know, I think it's easier perhaps,

463
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 2: and I don't want to get flack for this, but

464
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 2: I think it's a little easier in a dealership. You're

465
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 2: working on one product line and you can understand the

466
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 2: intricacies of that, and there's a learning curve there, but

467
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 2: you know, it's a lot less than the independent repair

468
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: shop mechanic who has to know multiple car lines, multiple

469
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: systems to the degree of difficulty that you've really got

470
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: to be doing it a while. That's where that five

471
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: to seven year rule comes in. Brian continues, how do

472
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: we get from two thousand Torus sable headlight assemblies that

473
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: can be swapped out less than fifteen minutes, including ten

474
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: minutes for reaiming to O wait, Malibus and Palas and

475
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 2: Nissans that require half the front end to be removed.

476
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: No one can engine No one engineer can accomplish that.

477
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: That takes a committee. Yeah, I agree, it's ridiculous. My

478
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: own Force suburban I had to put headlight bulbs in

479
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 2: it the other day. There's a simple pin. You turn

480
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 2: it ninety degrees, you lift it straight up, the headlights

481
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: out in about I don't know, three minutes. You're done.

482
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: It's literally that simple. Most likely that committee, Brian continues,

483
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 2: as headed by someone who's looking at how to assemble

484
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: the car in the quickest way with the least labor.

485
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how to fix that. I don't see

486
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: it getting any better. You've said, Wait, I got to

487
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 2: turn the page. This is a two pager, Brian. Brian

488
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: was in the mood to write when he sent me

489
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: this email. Right like I said, the cost of repairs

490
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: generally last on their list. And don't get me started

491
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: on the JD Power consumer reports, et cetera. About ownership.

492
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: So what's the point of this email? I was fortunate

493
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: to have been bludgeoned with the elements of various trades

494
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: prior to college. I agree with you that more needs

495
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 2: to be done with regards to teaching trades and helping

496
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: people find trades that fit them. I agree one hundred

497
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: and ten percent. You know, I really wonder what's going

498
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: to happen when they cars become less mechanical as they

499
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: have been, and they become continue to march towards electronics

500
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 2: and the days and age of parts swapping is really

501
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: going to be on the endangered species list, And yet

502
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: manufacturers continue to go this way. And I don't see

503
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: a lot of boost in certain areas of the country.

504
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: I think certain places, you know, you go to certain

505
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: parts of the country, there's actually machine shops, there's places

506
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 2: you can take an engine and get it you built.

507
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: There's people that are you know, they still drive manual transmission.

508
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 2: It's it's like time has passed them by in a

509
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: sense that technology hasn't overwhelmed them. But there are certain pockets.

510
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: I think the I think the Northeast, and I think

511
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: parts of California are overwhelmed by technology to the point

512
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: that it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

513
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: How do you find those people? Brian concludes, At the moment,

514
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 2: my time and resources are limited, but I expect that

515
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: to change. I mean, if there's anything I can do

516
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: to help you move things along. Merry Christmas, Brian, Sharon,

517
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: great letter, Brian. You know, I think that number one.

518
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: We need to talk about it more here on the show.

519
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,959
Speaker 2: So if you've got thoughts, if you've got concerns, if

520
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: you agreed disagree with Brian, whatever, bring it up. Let's,

521
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 2: you know, give us a quality five to five five

522
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero.

523
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: You know.

524
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: More importantly, I think we need to bring attention to

525
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: our elected officials. I think they themselves. I often think

526
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: of back at the beginning of the pandemic here in

527
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: New Jersey, they required all businesses to close and then

528
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: to the protests of everybody, and then one day, I

529
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: believe it was a senator or a emblement, somebody was

530
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: driving home from Trenton that night, got a flat tire

531
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: and found out there was nobody there to help them,

532
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: and he called for road service and it didn't exist.

533
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: And they said why, and they said, because you shut

534
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: all the businesses down and lo and behold within a week.

535
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: Auto repair shops were allowed to be open all during

536
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: the pandemic because they realized the vitality of it and

537
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: the importance of it, and how important it actually is.

538
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: There's a huge problem with the trades in that fact

539
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: that we don't have it because we think that in

540
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: order for somebody to be smart, they have to go

541
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: to college and they have to spend anywhere from fifty

542
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: to three hundred thousand dollars on an education to get

543
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: a degree that they may or may not use. You know,

544
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: I will tell you this on a personal note. I

545
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: have really enjoyed repairing cars for my time in the business.

546
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: I come home at the end of the day most days. Yeah,

547
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 2: there's aggravating days. There's aggravating days in anything, but you

548
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: know what, there's a lot to be said for working

549
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: with your hands and building and fixing and restoring something

550
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: that you just don't get from sitting in a chair

551
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: that perhaps you don't need to go to college for,

552
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 2: but you need to go to a trade school. Let

553
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: me know your thoughts, everybody, eight five to five five

554
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running any of

555
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: the car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back.

556
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm running the car Doctor at eight five five five

557
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero. Let's go out to

558
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: Dick and Iowa. Dick. Welcome to the car Doctor, sir,

559
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: how can I help?

560
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 5: Yes, good morning, Good morning. I'm a retired low mile

561
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 5: age driver. Okay, my newest car is in eighty six

562
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 5: Ford Crown Victoria Ltd.

563
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: You've been retired, awhile other cars?

564
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, seventy seven Mercury Couter. Then you ordered new frim Factory.

565
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: You've been retired a long time. Go ahead.

566
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 5: And I wondered on anti freeze changing how often you

567
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 5: need to change and a freeze? And now I see

568
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 5: all these different varieties and how even a ten year,

569
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 5: three hundred thousand mile long life one? And is there

570
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 5: something in and freeze that breaks down or what?

571
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? So you know you'll see that certain anti freezes

572
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: have a shorter life cycle than others. You know, there's

573
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: two concerns with regards to anti freeze, Dick. One is

574
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: obviously freeze point protection. Will it provide correct you know,

575
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: freeze point you can get down to you know, thirty

576
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 2: five below or whatever the magic number is for your

577
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: part of the country. But you know, we we we

578
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: tend to shoot for between thirty and thirty five below zero.

579
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: The other concern that's not really talked a lot about

580
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: with regards to coolant is the acidity factor. When coolant

581
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: goes bad, it's it's like you ever have apple cider

582
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: that turned it's you know, it becomes hard cider. It changes,

583
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: it chemically changes its base. Well, anti freeze does is

584
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: the same thing years ago. We don't do it as

585
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: much now because everything seems to be regulated on a

586
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: time basis. We'll still pull these out when we have

587
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: a problem vehicle we're trying to diagnose. But we used

588
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: to do something called dip stripping, which was the high

589
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: school litmus paper test where we had check things to

590
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: see if it was if it had high pH you know,

591
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: if it was a cidic or if it was a

592
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: base which way was it and you know, you can

593
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: do that these these litmus paper tests. Coolant dip strips

594
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: are sometimes referred to as if you've got an AutoZone

595
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: near you, you can get them at a local AutoZone

596
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: and just simply dip, you know, and check the coolant

597
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: and you'll see now rule of thumb, conventional green coolant

598
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: was in every two to three year type of replacement,

599
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: and then I guess we became environmentally concerned because what

600
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: do you do with all the old coolant? I get that,

601
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: and we developed other types of coolant as engines changed

602
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: and technology changed to meet that need. So you know,

603
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: now Peak comes along and Peak has created. Yeah, they've

604
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: created a ten year, three hundred thousand mile I believe

605
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: it is, as you say, type of coolant. What they've

606
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: done is they've re engineered the base coolants for certain vehicles.

607
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: They put additives in, They've put vitamins, if you will,

608
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: into the coolant that are going to keep it going

609
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: longer without breaking down. Believe it or not, coolant doesn't coolant.

610
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: Coolant doesn't go bad. Oil doesn't go bad. All right,

611
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: here's here's one that'll blow your mind. It's it's not

612
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: that the liquids go bad. They wear out. And what

613
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: wears out in both cases are the additives or the

614
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: vitamins that are put in there by the engineers to

615
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: give them the ability to do the job they're supposed

616
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: to do. In the case of coolant, Peak has found

617
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: a way above everybody else in my opinion, to create

618
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: better coolant through chemicals. If I can say it like that,

619
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: all right, you know, and that's and that's how they're

620
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: doing it. So you know, in the case of your

621
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: older cars, if you're going through more cooling system components,

622
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: if you're the guy that's changing a water pump every

623
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: three years and you're blaming the water pump, it might

624
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: be that the system is acidic. And this then gets

625
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: into the conversation of just doing a drain and fill

626
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: on the radiator isn't enough, Okay, it's you've got to

627
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: hook up a machine. You've got to use a coolant machine,

628
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: something like those that are available from a company like Mala,

629
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: where they're going to hook to the upper radiator hose

630
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: and they're going to do a complete exchange and service

631
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: the entire cooling system. You know, the people that are

632
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: just doing a radiator drain and fill are only getting

633
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: out about a third of the coolant in the system.

634
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: Not to mention, there's usually debrier crud, as we like

635
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: to call it, down on the bottom, you know, rear

636
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: rear ends of the cylinder back towards the back of

637
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: the cylinders. The rearward part of the engine or down

638
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: in the heater core. A coolant exchange will help remove

639
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: all that and it's a much more thorough messog method

640
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: to do that. So you know, that's what I would

641
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: suggest it. Yeah, if you're if you're planning on hanging

642
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: onto the cars, that's what I would recommend you do

643
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: that you you know, follow that, do a coolant exchange

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Speaker 2: and proper coolant and by all means, if you want

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Speaker 2: to use the peak coolant the longer term, as long

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Speaker 2: as it matches for your vehicle, and it should, then

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Speaker 2: you'll be fine just to continue to do that and

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Speaker 2: enjoy retirement. I appreciate the call. I'm running any in

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Speaker 2: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: run any of the car Doctor. Eight five five five

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Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero is the phone number

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Speaker 2: you can call and leave a message. We are on

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Speaker 2: the air Saturdays two to four pm East Coast time

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Speaker 2: or East Coast guys, and we'll be glad to put

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Speaker 2: you in the queue for the next broadcast. But eight

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Speaker 2: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero should

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Speaker 2: give you the ability to leave a message so that

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Speaker 2: we can catch up with you during the course of

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Speaker 2: the week. If your schedule is different than ours, and

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Speaker 2: you never know. Listen. If you do send me an

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Speaker 2: email Ron at Cardoctorshow dot com, I'll do that again,

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Speaker 2: Ron at Cardoctorshow dot com. If you do send me

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Speaker 2: an email, by all means, include your phone number. You

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Speaker 2: never know when I'm going to pick up the phone

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Speaker 2: and call you. Because I'm always trying to put together

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Speaker 2: a fresh tape show. There are times that the Car

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Speaker 2: Doctor does take a weekend off for other things going on,

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Speaker 2: and I want to give you guys, fresh shows all

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Speaker 2: the time, goods, fresh information. I don't like running repeats.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we've done one in a very long time,

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Speaker 2: so I've got no plans to do that going forward either.

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Speaker 2: So just keep in mind, if you do send me

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Speaker 2: a request for help and I try to answer all

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Speaker 2: of them, you know, send me your phone number as well,

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Speaker 2: and you never know, you may get a phone call

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Speaker 2: from me. You know, it's an interesting show this hour.

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Speaker 2: You know what made it so interesting to me. I

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Speaker 2: heard a lot of questions about repairing older cars. I

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Speaker 2: heard a lot of questions about maintenance. You know, things

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Speaker 2: that you're concerned about, and I always think my first

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Speaker 2: boss Billy in the gas station always told me when

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Speaker 2: he was teaching me about maintenance. He said, it's one

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Speaker 2: thing to do maintenance properly, but proper maintenance done properly

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Speaker 2: is better. And you know, Billy always took it to

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Speaker 2: the nth degree. He was a real smart guy. And

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Speaker 2: I always think about that. Proper maintenance done properly is

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Speaker 2: the best way in the best routine. And if you

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Speaker 2: are doing your due diligence and you are putting in

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Speaker 2: your proper fluids and filters, good quality stuff, things done correctly.

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Speaker 2: If you're thinking outside the box a little bit and

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Speaker 2: looking at how the vehicle or the piece of equipment

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Speaker 2: is being operated and taking care of it, you'll be

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Speaker 2: amazed at how long you can actually drive that without

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Speaker 2: having to replace it. And you look at the price

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Speaker 2: of new vehicles. Proper maintenance done properly still makes sense. Today,

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Speaker 2: I'm ro an Ay and the guard doctor reminding you

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Speaker 2: once again till the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 2: they're priceless. See you