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Speaker 1: gonna have a kill Augustine, who covers the Raptors on

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Speaker 1: NBA TV Canada, Canada for twenty plus years. Masai Jiri

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Speaker 1: of the moves the Raptors have made and how they're

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Speaker 1: And it's also been great having Rob g feell in

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Speaker 1: as well. Man usually on the other side of the glass,

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Speaker 3: Well, Ian's there. Well, no you don't. You got two

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Speaker 3: of the biggest boxes of pizza I've ever seen in

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Speaker 3: my entire life. Right now?

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Speaker 1: What why did I Why did I just spend one

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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five dollars on pizza?

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Speaker 3: Okay, might have egagerating a little bit. What the heck?

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Speaker 3: When did people? Did I have something? I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for the pizza bout No, it ain't about that.

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Speaker 1: It's when the heck the pizza gets to put so

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, we're paying for the Mulberry experience. Mulberry

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Speaker 4: allegedly is like the best New York style pizza you

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Speaker 3: On the West Coast. It is pretty good, can so

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Speaker 3: that's what you're paying for. You for the quality. I

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Speaker 1: Uh anyway, all right, so Rob g We've been talking

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Speaker 1: about Ace Bailey now started really last week. He's missed

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Speaker 1: His agent, who is more of a manager family friend,

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Speaker 1: likes of a Cooper Flag is sitting there. He's that talented,

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Speaker 1: But Ace Bailey, it's just been an odd occurrence. And you,

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Speaker 3: I really do. And let's just update the story.

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Speaker 4: According to Andy Larson in the first hour and he

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Speaker 4: if he actually because in all honesty, when Walter Clayton

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Speaker 4: Convinced that As Bailey is going to be a capital

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Speaker 4: The expectation when he was being recruited is, hey, you

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Speaker 4: And what he did instead was it go to Rutgers.

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Speaker 4: No disrespect to Rutgers, but Rutgers is not what I

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Speaker 4: Credit to him, it worked out. They both went in

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Speaker 4: And all of the draft knicks who do this for

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Speaker 4: We have seen countless players in NBA history who were

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Speaker 4: that mindset, like fully developed until you've already been in

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Speaker 3: In real time. Like you know what.

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Speaker 4: I don't think James Harden is really about winning. I

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Speaker 4: he's grinding. Grinding will give him a second contract, and

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Speaker 3: Not a team player, right, He's Jordan Poole.

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Speaker 4: He just want to get his Because Ace Bailey is

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Speaker 4: They're not gonna stand for this kind of stuff. He's

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Speaker 4: I don't see him ever reaching his full potential. He's

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Speaker 1: I disagree with that because I think cam Reddish had

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Speaker 3: I'll explain a couple of things here for you, Rob G.

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Speaker 1: Number one, I think what you're looking at is the

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Speaker 1: a great show thus far. Rob will be back on Monday.

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Speaker 1: joined by Akil Augustine, covers the Raptors on NBA TV

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Speaker 1: Canada for twenty plus years. Talk some hoops there, some

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Speaker 1: movement there, and other NBA storylines and Rob g Man

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Speaker 1: anything he would have put a quick button on.

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Speaker 3: Just a conversation as baby. Before we get over to Steve,

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Speaker 3: what's trending? Well, let me just say one quick thing.

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Speaker 4: I just got this tweet from at Ian Roddy Underscore

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Speaker 4: on Twitter. Okay, and he said, shout out to Rob

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Speaker 4: g for making this the blackest the Odd Couple has

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Speaker 4: ever been. We're celebrating blackness tonight. This is just false reporting.

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Speaker 3: Take any man. I appreciate it that what.

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Speaker 4: You're trying to say, because I'm like, I'm at least

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Speaker 4: four shades darker than Broussard.

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Speaker 3: You are that, and we're into a black hole. I'm

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Speaker 3: in with the think Parker, what does that say, I'm

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Speaker 3: darker than Chris? You are darker than you. Actually he

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Speaker 3: is actually like right on base with Chris. Yeah, Sam Brown,

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Speaker 3: but is the man? See there you go, Alex.

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Speaker 1: Let's say weal quick called Andre Massachusetts. You are on

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Speaker 1: with the Akabo Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Andre. What's up? Man?

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Speaker 5: Hey, what's going on? Thanks taking the call. Happy Friday.

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Speaker 5: I have to go along with the line of thinking.

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Speaker 5: I think what a barely needs is better representation, better

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Speaker 5: people around him. Frankly, I think Clutch sports would be

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Speaker 5: a great place for him because on the trajectory that

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Speaker 5: he's on. Now, let's talk about the Johnathan Vengers of

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Speaker 5: the world. Okay, talk about the Darius Miles in the world.

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Speaker 5: And for me, I'm dating myself, but I don't even mind.

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Speaker 5: Reminds me of Lenny Cook.

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Speaker 6: Right player with the area.

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Speaker 5: Okay, years ago, you know the phenom you know it

472
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Speaker 5: was supposed to be Lenny cooking Lebron James, Right, Lenny

473
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Speaker 5: was a year older, okay, and one person became what

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Speaker 5: he did and the other was kind of like.

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Speaker 7: The greatest that never was.

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Speaker 5: So it is a little bit off putting that the

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Speaker 5: way that he's coming to the NBA, I think he's

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Speaker 5: frankly rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

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Speaker 6: And I just hope that.

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Speaker 5: He gets the people around, because if nobody denies the talent,

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Speaker 5: the talent is clear. But of the three best players, himself,

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Speaker 5: Parker and Cooper Flag, both those other players have elite

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Speaker 5: intangibles and mindset to go along with their skill, and

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Speaker 5: he's just had that five star talent. But you know,

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Speaker 5: in terms of perspective, it's in the negative. So I'm

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Speaker 5: pulling for the kids. But as you all said, you know,

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Speaker 5: it might be the NBA, but it could be the

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Speaker 5: NFL many.

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Speaker 6: Not for long.

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Speaker 5: Brase Bailey, thanks.

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Speaker 1: Taking a call, all right, Andre, Yeah, we all kind

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Speaker 1: of on the same page on that one.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate the cause always.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna get to kill Augustine just a

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Speaker 1: moment right now, Steven Seger's gonna get you set on

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Speaker 1: with trendon, Steve.

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Speaker 2: There we go Hello there, I wanted to see. I

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Speaker 2: was trying to compliment him on the thanks for the pizza.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't get couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Even get it out over the air, Alee. Let me

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Speaker 3: get some shine here, Alex.

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Speaker 2: Now, we did have a superb game pitch by the

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Speaker 2: Saint Louis Cardinals starter on the road tonight, Sunny.

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Speaker 3: Gray spectacular, nearly perfect and one hitter.

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Speaker 2: He allowed one base lunner, five nothing. Saint Louis wins

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Speaker 2: at Cleveland. That was Apple TV with the call, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: complete game, one hitter These days, that alone is news.

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Speaker 2: Sunny Gray's eight and two for the Cardinals eleven strikeouts,

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Speaker 2: no walks tonight, and it only took eighty nine pitches

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Speaker 2: to finish this complete game. Philly's at Brave still in

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Speaker 2: a rain delay at the start. Giants now lead three

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Speaker 2: to one at the White Sox in the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the six. Seattle ahead at Texas four to one in

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the fifth. Houston's great home team so

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Speaker 2: far this year. Houston up seven to one on the

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Speaker 2: Cubs top of the fifth. Houston Astros at home thirty

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Speaker 2: and thirteen. At Milwaukee, it's the Brewers six to one

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Speaker 2: over the Rockies.

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Speaker 3: Top of the fifth.

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Speaker 2: If Colorado loses, the Rockies will be eighteen and sixty

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Speaker 2: four this season. The Dodgers got a leadoff homer from

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Speaker 2: Shoeo Tanis twenty one, but now at Kansas City it's

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Speaker 2: Royals over the Dodgers four to three going to the

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Speaker 2: fifth inning. There are two late games coming up in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes, including the Angels hosting Washington. Angels manager

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Speaker 2: Ron Washington will remain on medical leave for the rest

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Speaker 2: of the season. Blue Jays lead five nothing at Boston

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Speaker 2: top of the eighth, so the Red Sox steering a

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Speaker 2: sixth straight loss in the face at Cincinnati. It's the

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Speaker 2: Reds eight nothing over the Padres in the top of

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Speaker 2: the eighth, and the starter for Cincinnati, Nick Martinez, a

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Speaker 2: former Padre, is throwing a no hitter, five strikeouts, one

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Speaker 2: walk through seven ninety five pitches thrown. At the moment

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Speaker 2: as they're in the top of the eighth inning of

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Speaker 2: that one, the Rays were ahead six nothing at Baltimore

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Speaker 2: in the second inning. It's now Orioles eleven to seven

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Speaker 2: in the lead. In the top of the seventh, Yankee

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Speaker 2: still shutting out the A's three nothing top of the

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Speaker 2: ninth and at Pittsburgh Pirates nine to one over the

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Speaker 2: Mets in the bottom of the eighth among the five

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Speaker 2: WNBA games. Tonight, Indiana is at Dallas, but Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: is out again with a groin injury. Indiana was up

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Speaker 2: twenty after the first quarter. They're holding on eighty eight

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Speaker 2: eighty two at Dallas with under three minutes to go.

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Speaker 2: The Utah Jazz say first rounder Ace Bailey will report

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. Massaiu Cheery is out as president of the Raptors.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota's Nas Reed will reportedly re sign four years plus

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Speaker 2: a player option back team.

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Speaker 1: All right, Steve Hay, have a wonderful weekend, my friend,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: It is the odd couple. Kelvin Washington, Rob g in

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Speaker 3: for Rob Who.

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Speaker 1: It will be back on Monday on a funky flashback Friday.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for hanging out with your boys.

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Speaker 1: We're joined now by Akil Augustine, cover of the Raptors on

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Speaker 1: NBA TV Canada for twenty plus years. He joined us

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Speaker 1: now to talk about some movement, some things shaking up

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Speaker 1: there above the border or kill what's going on?

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Speaker 3: And how you doing?

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Speaker 6: I'm good man, How you doing well?

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Speaker 1: Rob g and I were just, you know, last hour

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Speaker 1: think it was we had our conversation about Messiah Jeri

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Speaker 1: and his tenure there thirteen years. I kind of said

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Speaker 1: we could split it up in halves. First half really

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Speaker 1: good exactly the year championship, a bunch of fifth you

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Speaker 1: win seasons. Second half, rob g he kind of let

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Speaker 1: them up with some of these moves and decisions and

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Speaker 1: trades and pickups that did not work out as well.

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Speaker 1: How do you overall rate his thirteen years there, I.

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Speaker 7: Think, I mean, yes, definitely you can divide it up

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Speaker 7: into the two chapters, but I think you have to

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Speaker 7: put right smack dab in the middle of that chapter,

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Speaker 7: obviously the Championship and then COVID, because I think sometimes

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Speaker 7: people forget the Raptors were the only teams that had

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Speaker 7: to leave their home city, state and function full time.

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Speaker 7: So it was a real odd situation for the entire

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Speaker 7: front office and organization. And if you think about the

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Speaker 7: relationships that kind of fractured or splintered post championship, a

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Speaker 7: lot of it happened in the bubble, right you talk

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Speaker 7: about stuff happening with Fred Pascal, A lot of that

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Speaker 7: happened while the Raptors had that really weird two year stretch,

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Speaker 7: and I think people forget that and don't understand. Also,

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Speaker 7: he's playing in a market unlike any other market. We

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Speaker 7: have the one market outside of the United States. So

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Speaker 7: all those things kind of significantly impacted how he could maneuver,

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Speaker 7: and I think they were hurdles that no one's ever

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Speaker 7: had too.

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Speaker 6: Incounerance sports, you bring.

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Speaker 3: Up great points that I didn't even consider.

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Speaker 1: And COVID through a monkey rinch in all of life,

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Speaker 1: you know, economically, socially, there's so many kids that struggle

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Speaker 1: through that. Physically, a lot of people are still sick

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Speaker 1: with long COVID. So you're right, COVID is something that

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Speaker 1: sometimes we forget that was a real thing and challenge

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Speaker 1: so much of our conventional ways.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when you.

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Speaker 7: Think about Pascal had that you know, relationship thing with

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Speaker 7: Nick Nurse that happened around that time, friends, you know,

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Speaker 7: stuff with comments about Scottie Oh Scotti. Development kind of

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Speaker 7: messed up the timeline because you had this four pick

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Speaker 7: all of a sudden because you weren't the relevant team

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Speaker 7: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, just to back.

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Speaker 4: Up the point, Yeah, so a kill one of the

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Speaker 4: guys that we compared him to in the second hour.

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Speaker 3: Was pat Riley right.

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Speaker 4: Pat Riley came out with willing Westerns in Miami recently.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's been kind of tough sledding down there.

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Speaker 4: But one point that Kelvin brought up, which I thought

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Speaker 4: was a very sharp one, is what pat Riley has

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Speaker 4: going from in Miami is that the Arisons are not

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Speaker 4: selling the team they are in charge, and it's he

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Speaker 4: almost has that sweat equity already built up and that's

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Speaker 4: why he can keep making these ziccups or in this case,

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Speaker 4: he doesn't make any trades and then that he's fine.

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Speaker 4: How much of this with with Messiah Jerry is just

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Speaker 4: the new ownership group came in. They wanted a new

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Speaker 4: direction for the franchise, and the best way to do

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Speaker 4: it is to get rid of the previous regime.

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Speaker 7: And the guy was in charge, I think it is.

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Speaker 7: I think him moving into the president role too.

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Speaker 6: Like listen, I'm not here to, like, you know, say

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Speaker 6: who's doing more.

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Speaker 7: Work, But I do believe the president role is very

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Speaker 7: different from the GM role, and so people assign, you know,

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Speaker 7: more weight to the GM role in the NBA. But

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Speaker 7: let me get to the point. You were talking about,

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Speaker 7: which was the fact that it's a very different ownership

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Speaker 7: situation here in Canada because when we had significantly lest millionaires, right,

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Speaker 7: so a lot of times kind of like how you

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Speaker 7: see with Boston and their sports group and what happens

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Speaker 7: what happened with the Lakers. We were owned by Mayple

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Speaker 7: Lice Sports and our tapers. I say wee because I've.

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Speaker 6: Been embedded with the team for so long. So Mayble

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Speaker 6: Sports Entertainment was a was.

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Speaker 7: A collective owned by our two major sports networks, right,

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Speaker 7: our esp and our Fox Sports Net which is sports

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Speaker 7: Net and TSN. So it was really an odd situation

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Speaker 7: where two companies fighting for the rights to the lease

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Speaker 7: and the Raptors also owned the Leafs and the Raptors.

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Speaker 7: So people outside of the market don't get how strange

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Speaker 7: of a market it is.

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Speaker 6: Because there really is no competition.

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Speaker 7: There's one horse in this race, right, MLSC if they

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Speaker 7: own the Raptors and the Leafs, the Dotal, the Blue Jays,

646
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Speaker 7: but they own all the other major properties, our CFL team,

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Speaker 7: our MLS team, right, So that group, it's a different

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Speaker 7: situation to navigate because you're not really with a single

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Speaker 7: billionaire owner where this is a vanity project that he

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Speaker 7: wants to win a championship. This is a business and

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Speaker 7: debt with multiple players, and I think that's something you

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Speaker 7: really have to consider, especially with all the reporting about

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Speaker 7: tension between one of the groups, Rogers and the Rogers

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Speaker 7: family and the Air and the Sun having with MASSI

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Speaker 7: all this was getting neared up publicly down here, and

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Speaker 7: I don't think you guys hear about that down south.

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Speaker 7: So there was a lot of peaces moving, especially with

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Speaker 7: the purchase.

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Speaker 3: Kil Augustine.

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Speaker 1: As our guests cover the Raptors, the NBA, TV and

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Speaker 1: Canada for twenty plus years, as you mentioned, used to

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Speaker 1: be embedded with the team.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: All that aside, okay, cool was great and Massia this

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Speaker 1: and new ownership of that. Now is time time to winning,

666
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Speaker 1: right and the East is wide open and this time,

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Speaker 1: actually Rob G and I were talking.

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Speaker 3: They have talent.

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Speaker 1: You got Barns, you got Ingram, you got h Bart,

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Speaker 1: you got quickly, got some guys there and in East

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Speaker 1: that in it like the Big Three and Boston are

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Speaker 1: there the mid two thousands Pistons or Lebron sitting there?

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Speaker 3: So where do you where do you look at the

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Speaker 3: outlook for this upcoming season for them.

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Speaker 6: It was kind of a shock.

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Speaker 7: So a lot of us on the ground looking at

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Speaker 7: the team simply because they kind of with the hey baby,

678
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Speaker 7: my daughter's trying to get my attention to.

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Speaker 3: Hey listen, dude, we have five girls between the trust

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Speaker 3: me we do. We're right there with you.

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Speaker 7: So the Ingram move kind of put us on notice

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Speaker 7: that this was you know, the rebuild was over or

683
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Speaker 7: the rejig was over, right, So it's kind of strange

684
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Speaker 7: that this move gets made now. But obviously the sale

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Speaker 7: just happened or was finalized at the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 7: so you kind of felt like the next shoe was

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Speaker 7: going to drop. But on the court, I think he's

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Speaker 7: putting the team in a really good position. I think

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Speaker 7: Bobby's like a lot of people look over Bobby around

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Speaker 7: the league because Masia's got such a big name, But

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Speaker 7: Bobby Webster.

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Speaker 6: OURGM has done a good job, and I.

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Speaker 7: Think the changing landscape of the Eastern Conference gives this

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Speaker 7: team a bit of a boost.

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Speaker 6: But I think the drafts really.

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Speaker 7: Hurt what we were expecting because then the nine pick

697
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Speaker 7: was not what the Raptors were expecting.

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Speaker 6: As well as a couple of other teams.

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Speaker 7: Right, we're in the same bucket with Charlotte in.

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Speaker 6: A couple of teams like those.

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Speaker 7: Those those draft ping pong balls really.

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Speaker 6: Hurt our progression. But I mean the team's in a

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Speaker 6: good spot.

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Speaker 7: If you look at the Eastern Conference, there aren't too

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Speaker 7: many heavy hitters.

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Speaker 6: With all these act Achilles injuries.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you mentioned those those five players again, Ingram quickly, Barrett,

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Speaker 4: Perl and Barns in a vacuum.

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Speaker 3: I think they're all very talented players.

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Speaker 4: The problem is that the record hasn't really beared out

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Speaker 4: that way, whether because the injuries or or bar you know,

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Speaker 4: Ingram just got there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: One thing we're seeing with this new NBA in the

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Speaker 4: second apron is if you have too many good players,

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Speaker 4: you better not get used to it, because they're going

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Speaker 4: to be gone. And in this year and next year,

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Speaker 4: that five some accounts for one hundred and fifty four

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Speaker 4: and one hundred and sixty three million dollars. I'm assuming

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Speaker 4: at least one of them is going to get traded

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Speaker 4: for some kind of cost cutting move. Which one do

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Speaker 4: you see as the least likely to be part of

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Speaker 4: the corps moving forward?

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Speaker 7: Well, the conversation online with the fans and with the

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Speaker 7: journalists are j Barrett. Which is sad when you think

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Speaker 7: about the year he just had for us, being by

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Speaker 7: far the most efficient player, a huge year, kind of

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Speaker 7: proving some of the things that the Knicks organizations has

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Speaker 7: said about him with the ball handling and creating and

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Speaker 7: obviously local kid. I've known the kid since he was born, right,

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Speaker 7: real goodness, his dad who actually runs Canada basketball. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: so it's like it's it sucks, but I don't think

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Speaker 7: it's like he's appealing. And that's the thing about this

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Speaker 7: NBA right appealing.

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Speaker 6: Contract move to quickly move.

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Speaker 7: We signed him and the numbers haven't really gotten to

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Speaker 7: where people would say, okay, let's take that contract. Obviously, Scott,

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Speaker 7: he's untouchable, right so and in the Ingram deal, he

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Speaker 7: hasn't played a game yet. So yeah, sadly here in Toronto,

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Speaker 7: his home city, the conversation seems to be Argent looks

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Speaker 7: like the guy that would be moved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned he was kind of had a resurgence,

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Speaker 1: if you will. Just at that moment we thought this

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Speaker 1: is what we thought he could be. And obviously he's

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Speaker 1: going to be looking forward to this next season. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: they can make some noise. We'll have to all wait

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Speaker 1: and see. Man, get back to your daughter, Keith, Augustine Brother,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time.

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Speaker 6: What's that guys? Thanks for having me now again.

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Speaker 3: We know we know about that daughter life.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know it's funny too. Speaking of COVID

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Speaker 1: and speaking of daughters. Remember we were all in that

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Speaker 1: and I don't remember if this is exactly because of quarantine,

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Speaker 1: but that viral video of my man who was doing

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Speaker 1: a zoom and he was trying to have a serious

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Speaker 1: conversation with everything, and.

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Speaker 3: With daughter walks in and the mom slides and trying to.

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Speaker 1: The one the other one on the walker, like, ah,

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Speaker 1: this is bad, dude. We were living through some wild times.

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Speaker 1: And he brought up a great point in like it

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Speaker 1: affected the sports world. It's so much, I mean so

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Speaker 1: many different ways. I mean, things could have if we

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Speaker 1: don't have COVID. Dude, the Brooklyn Nets have a title,

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Speaker 1: they might you know what I mean? Do we have Kyrie,

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Speaker 1: James Harden and KD balling out of control if we

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Speaker 1: don't have COVID. Some people will say in the bubble,

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Speaker 1: the Lakers wouldn't get that ring. You know, some people say,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I don't agree with that, but

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Speaker 1: that that's a narrative that will a lot of sports.

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Speaker 4: They say, if we didn't have COVID, he never would

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Speaker 4: have saw Zach Wilson Trey lanmce get picked in the

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Speaker 4: top three picks, right because they played like eight games

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Speaker 4: and then it was no fans and.

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Speaker 3: You're just kind of like, I guess he was good.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So so many different things came from that, and again

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Speaker 1: there's so much that we're just you know, we're still

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Speaker 1: a couple of years, two and a half years of

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, removed from it, that we haven't been

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Speaker 1: able to dissect so much of our society. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about economically, the the long COVID, just what it's done.

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Speaker 1: It did so much to teenagers, man, the data and

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Speaker 1: these kids who are suffering loneliness. Robbie senior year, I

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Speaker 1: couldn't go to prom, supposed to go on this state

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Speaker 1: championship running my football team. The basketball team got canceled,

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Speaker 1: and you see a lot of kids I remember, you know,

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Speaker 1: I do a lot of mentorship and I'm I'm a

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Speaker 1: board a director on this nonprofit and it's for youth

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Speaker 1: in underprivileged youth out here in southern California. And my

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Speaker 1: point is, I remember hosting an event is right when

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Speaker 1: we're coming out of COVID, and Rob G. You remember

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Speaker 1: in high school, if I were to be like, what

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Speaker 1: high school did you do? You have to tell me,

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Speaker 1: but what do you're high?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: So if I said we got the mean gads up here,

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Speaker 1: now we got Whitny Robin, dude, I'm we got such

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Speaker 1: and such.

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Speaker 3: We can do.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking in their eyes. They were lost. It was

801
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Speaker 1: rough Man rough Pierce. I said all that to say

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Speaker 1: he's right that we kind of just move on, move on,

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00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: move on. But COVID was a strange, strange time. The

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00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: entire world stop. Yeah, it's hard to believe, all right.

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Speaker 1: Last call eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight

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Speaker 1: It is the odd couple, Rob G and for Rob

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