WEBVTT - Study Hall: Media's Future: Is It Game Over for Streaming Services?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about Charlemagne the God HM shout out Charlomagne

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<v Speaker 3>the God Show. So it's what do you think of

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<v Speaker 3>Charlemagne's prediction that media companies are dying in this era

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<v Speaker 3>and there will eventually only be two main streaming companies

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<v Speaker 3>that will remain after the collapse.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is something him.

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<v Speaker 5>And show has talked about on Brilliant Idiots, and I

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<v Speaker 5>posted it this past weekend. Going back to the actors strike,

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<v Speaker 5>I think one of the things that is not talked

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<v Speaker 5>about enough and that they brought up is that the

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<v Speaker 5>profitability is not there how everyone thinks. I know Joe,

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<v Speaker 5>when he was in the spotiations, he asked a brilliant

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<v Speaker 5>question that never got answered, which was what is the

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<v Speaker 5>value of a stream? And Spotify never gave that answer

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<v Speaker 5>for a multitude of reasons. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>these companies are in a bad position because they are

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<v Speaker 5>not as profitable and they just spend too much money

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<v Speaker 5>on content, Like it's a horrible model to make a

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<v Speaker 5>show for one hundred million dollars and expected to make

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<v Speaker 5>the money back fourteen dollars or nine dollars at a time.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if there will be two.

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<v Speaker 5>Players only, but I think there will be a big four,

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<v Speaker 5>as there is in most businesses. I think it'll eventually

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<v Speaker 5>just be Apple, Netflix, Hulu and maybe one player.

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<v Speaker 4>But like this proliferation of a whole bunch of streaming apps.

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<v Speaker 5>The margins are not there, and we see it as

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<v Speaker 5>reflective in Disney wanting to get rid of ESPN that're

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<v Speaker 5>making Leus Star Wars content. They want to get rid

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<v Speaker 5>of Marvel. So if you're telling me that the best

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<v Speaker 5>media brand in American history is selling off arguably one

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<v Speaker 5>of the best sports brands, the best cartoon brand, and

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<v Speaker 5>the best sci fi brand, you can't tell me the

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<v Speaker 5>Spotify is fucking crushing it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's impossible.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's a conversation that, like we've had before, and

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<v Speaker 5>I always ask the question if I was given one

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<v Speaker 5>point two billion dollars to build a podcast division and

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<v Speaker 5>the only hit I got out of it was Joe

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<v Speaker 5>Rogan and Will Smith did twelve episodes and Megan and

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<v Speaker 5>Harry did fifteen episodes and then they just walked off.

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<v Speaker 5>How Rick Ross did on eighty five South, what would

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<v Speaker 5>I be called? And it was just some kind of

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<v Speaker 5>blunder for Daniel at Spotify. And I don't have any

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<v Speaker 5>issue with day. I think he's an amazing CEO. But

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<v Speaker 5>I think the truth is going to be told and

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<v Speaker 5>maybe a year or two about the majority of these

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<v Speaker 5>media companies, and I keep saying that. I ask you guys,

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<v Speaker 5>as Charlotte Maine, that's Joe shows how many people may

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<v Speaker 5>are making a million.

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<v Speaker 4>Dollars more from podcasting or media. Not many.

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<v Speaker 5>If the numbers were so insane that a talent was

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<v Speaker 5>drawn in forty and fifty million dollars a year from

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<v Speaker 5>that show, it'll be easy to pay him a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>The reason why there aren't a lot of making a

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<v Speaker 5>million dollars plus in the space.

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<v Speaker 4>Is because they don't draw that much value.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think we're seeing it as scale as we

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<v Speaker 5>are in a recession that they will not announce the

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<v Speaker 5>most media properties are not doing as well as we think.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Man, that was well said. That was well said.

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<v Speaker 6>He's onto something and he's pretty accurate when when I

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<v Speaker 6>looked at it from in terms of it's like the

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<v Speaker 6>jay Z line, less is more right. So when we

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<v Speaker 6>watched Bob Iger speak, if you read it between the lines,

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<v Speaker 6>he's telling you the same thing. Less is morse when

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<v Speaker 6>he's saying like, yes, Pixar, we've missed. If we're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be honest, we've missed on a bunch of movies. We're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna cut back on making those movies. Right, we had

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<v Speaker 6>Star Wars and you know, Lucas Films put out the

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<v Speaker 6>Knee Jones movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't hit like we thought.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even know it came out.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't hit like they thought it would. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>well we've got to scale back.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think the Marvel thing is the biggest one

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<v Speaker 6>because it was like, Okay, the movies did so well,

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<v Speaker 6>and that was leading up to the pandemic. But then

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<v Speaker 6>they started putting out shows that nobody watched. So we

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<v Speaker 6>have to cut back. The problem is that Disney's won.

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<v Speaker 6>But I mean all these streaming services Netflix, even to

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<v Speaker 6>a certain extent, they're they're accumulating debt with no real

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<v Speaker 6>concrete strategy of how to accumulate more revenue.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's the real issue, right.

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<v Speaker 6>So like when when Ires talking about, hey, yeah we

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<v Speaker 6>have ESPN, but you know these contracts that we have

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<v Speaker 6>with these leagues, they cost billions. How are we going

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<v Speaker 6>to pay for it? How do we keep them and

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<v Speaker 6>paid for it? And so reading between that is like, now,

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<v Speaker 6>who is the company that is going to partner to

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<v Speaker 6>purchase ESPN to have those rights, because I'm sure they'll

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure Disney will want to stay involved in it somehow,

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<v Speaker 6>right because they own ABC and they caick and broadcast nationally.

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<v Speaker 6>So who becomes that Does it become an apple to say, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>we'll partner, we'll we'll take the sports division, we'll take

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<v Speaker 6>ESPN and we'll figure this out. Or and this was

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<v Speaker 6>an interesting one and I didn't even think of it.

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<v Speaker 6>What if a company like Fanatics decides that we are

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<v Speaker 6>now your sports partner. They already have the merchandising, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>but they don't have the network to do TV.

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<v Speaker 2>But what if you can bomb both of them?

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<v Speaker 6>Now it becomes interesting. And so we talked about Michael

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<v Speaker 6>Woman all the time. We've watched the networth of his

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<v Speaker 6>company grow. We watched a girl from two billion to

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<v Speaker 6>six billion. Now I think it's evaluated like twenty eight billion.

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<v Speaker 6>What if they now decide to partner because they already

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<v Speaker 6>have licensing deals with all the leagues for the merchandising. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>what if we package the lyrigandizing with the TV rights?

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<v Speaker 2>That becomes super interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>Great, you got a crystal ball. Great minds thinking like

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<v Speaker 5>you know, when they had that party. The first thing

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<v Speaker 5>I thought, this looks like the title rollout from ten

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<v Speaker 5>years ago. How do you get jay z lebron meek,

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<v Speaker 5>little baby getting hug from behind Paul's right to get

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<v Speaker 5>all those people in the same room at the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>You think they was there just to drink do s.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, damn, this looks like the title rollout but better.

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<v Speaker 5>And Jay's already infiltrated and took over sports. Robinson could

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<v Speaker 5>know you come up with me, he told y'all ten

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<v Speaker 5>years ago. Good put out the book A hole and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>what would be best? Find a way for your talent

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<v Speaker 5>to be on TV that you own or network that

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<v Speaker 5>you own all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it would be the next evolution.

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<v Speaker 5>So I definitely agree while everything is in recession, and

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<v Speaker 5>the other issue we don't have enough people that want

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<v Speaker 5>to be consumers when everybody wants to be a star.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that also, it's a new age of media.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, like, who's really watching movies at a fast

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<v Speaker 3>paced these days? Like people? I know some people are

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<v Speaker 3>still to watch movies, but the vast majority I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on my phone, I'm not really watching movies. So many

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<v Speaker 3>movies come out on Netflix that I've never seen, or

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<v Speaker 3>they come out on these weird streaming services to tube

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<v Speaker 3>not ain't even to be But I mean, let's just

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<v Speaker 3>be honest. Have you ever watched anything on Apple Plus?

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<v Speaker 3>Shot to Steph Curry's documentary just came up? But I

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<v Speaker 3>have to know it just is what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I watched one interview with Oprah on there.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never watched one thing on Apple Plus. I probably

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<v Speaker 3>watched two things on Hulu.

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<v Speaker 4>Is on Apple Plus or No?

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<v Speaker 2>You know you said you don't consume TV.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, but I'm just saying I don't know anybody. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>still I'm in the loop. Nobody's watching Apple Plus.

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<v Speaker 2>People are watching Apple Plus. You don't consume it.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're gonna be honest. So we're just gonna be people.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna tell you no, honest, honestly our people is

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<v Speaker 6>it Netflix?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>But people are consuming the contest. Do you know anybody

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<v Speaker 3>that watches Apple Plus on a regular you know me?

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<v Speaker 6>No, that's not that's not a fair assessment. I know you,

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<v Speaker 6>you know me, I've watched content on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody is fudging the numbers and streaming.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not passing the eye text.

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<v Speaker 2>Both things are not passing it. Both things are true.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not passing, Like you said, just get cost money

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<v Speaker 3>to produce these things. There's movies, these documentaries. He shows

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<v Speaker 3>it costs money to produce. It's going on on these

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<v Speaker 3>these streamings services that's behind a paywall. At least on

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<v Speaker 3>YouTube you can see numbers. They might be inflated, but

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<v Speaker 3>at least you can see the numbers. Like Revolt. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure how many people actually watch Revault on TV,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can see the numbers on YouTube. Drink Champs,

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Yayo's just three million views in three days, like

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to Revolt. As so Reliability Season three comes

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<v Speaker 3>out shameless pluck. But all I'm saying is that I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's just a new age of media and I

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<v Speaker 3>think low costing content. This is why you know, high quality,

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<v Speaker 3>this is why, this is why the podcast scene has

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<v Speaker 3>really taken off. It's low costing content. It's easy to produce,

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<v Speaker 3>it's easy to put out. And I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>content has become like music. Before music meant a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>and you had an album and you would sit with

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<v Speaker 3>that album for six months. Now Gunna comes out with

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<v Speaker 3>a song and then Takashi six nine comes out with

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<v Speaker 3>a song with Kodak Black three days later. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>this is so disposable. It's so disposable. That's how content is.

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<v Speaker 3>Content is like Drake doesn't interview in bed with the

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok girl, and then Elliott Wilson he's going back and

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<v Speaker 3>forth with Drake the next week. It's just like it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like you got it. It's so disposable, like the

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<v Speaker 3>content and Dames Dame dash warned does shout the Dane

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<v Speaker 3>when Dame on the Breakfast Club ten years ago, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was very insightful conversation that he had and that's

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<v Speaker 3>when he was he was telling Mvy then like yo,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't own this, and then MVY was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>own I own a stock in the company. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>even think the company's publicly trade. I'm not sure he

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<v Speaker 3>owned stocks. Yeah, it was that was difficult. That's difficult

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<v Speaker 3>for him to do. But it was just a difficult thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing about it is that the thing about

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<v Speaker 3>it is that you have to you have to read

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<v Speaker 3>the tea leaves.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to read the tea leaves. And Charlemagne was

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<v Speaker 3>smart enough to read the tea leaves. He started not

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<v Speaker 3>only his podcast, that he's done, but he starts to black.

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<v Speaker 1>An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child

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<v Speaker 1>Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States

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<v Speaker 2>Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security.

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<v Speaker 3>So that podcast network, right, this makes sense because now

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<v Speaker 3>you go into the lane of where media is headed.

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<v Speaker 3>So it'll be interesting to see where where media plays

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<v Speaker 3>over the next ten years. But I just feel like

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of peoples wasting a lot of money these

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<v Speaker 3>streaming services. Nobody's watching them. And yeah, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 3>not a good business model.

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<v Speaker 6>So you agreeing with what all you're saying, He's saying

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<v Speaker 6>the same exact thing. Less, it's more like, we messed

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<v Speaker 6>this up. How are we going to fix this? Here's

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<v Speaker 6>how we've got to stop doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't making any money. We overshot this.

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<v Speaker 6>There's nobody's watching she hok, no disrespect, but nobody's watching it. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>You can put out there, nobody's watching it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It used to be like, hey, if we create these characters.

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<v Speaker 6>Then they do well in the endgame and then we

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<v Speaker 6>can give them their own individual series.

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<v Speaker 2>And that might have.

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<v Speaker 6>Worked for one or two, but some of these characters

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<v Speaker 6>there's no investment in them.

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<v Speaker 2>Right then they put it It.

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<v Speaker 6>Didn't work on the streaming, so they put it on

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<v Speaker 6>ABC and start you started seeing Agent Shield on.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that it's going?

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<v Speaker 6>Because nobody there's no investment there, so they overdid it

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<v Speaker 6>so less it's more.

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<v Speaker 4>And of course when you didn't watch the Agent Child, No,

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely no, this show is terrible, shout who's on the show.

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<v Speaker 5>But but like when you are not having it's too

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<v Speaker 5>many suits in the creative business that is not looking

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<v Speaker 5>to make great creative and of course, like you have

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<v Speaker 5>to judge a business like how can it thrive? And

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<v Speaker 5>and an economy when people don't have a surplus of money.

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<v Speaker 5>In twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, up until March,

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<v Speaker 5>everyone thought everything was fine. Always calibrate to see, okay, great,

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<v Speaker 5>how well will things do if the market drives up

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<v Speaker 5>and people don't have as much money?

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<v Speaker 4>Number two?

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<v Speaker 5>Once again, like Rashata said, the costs for these shows

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<v Speaker 5>with you damn high, so like you have to find

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<v Speaker 5>everything is a hedge fund business. Like as soon as

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<v Speaker 5>I saw Pat McAfee get brought over the ESPN, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder how much the betting will go up because

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<v Speaker 5>he's a player that can call things on the fly

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<v Speaker 5>in real time, that can make people money. As soon

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<v Speaker 5>as I saw Romo say hey, this is the play

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to run and people start betting on it,

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<v Speaker 5>that's the head truck business.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all about risk to reward.

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<v Speaker 5>Like if I paid ten dollars for content, can I

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<v Speaker 5>get one hundred dollars out of it? It's really hard

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<v Speaker 5>to make up a three hundred million dollar movie fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>dollars or seven dollars at a time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's stamn near impossible to do. So.

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<v Speaker 3>Hollywood is a place where there is a tremendous amount

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<v Speaker 3>of waste. It's a bad business model. They waste money.

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<v Speaker 3>There's too many people with their hands in the pot,

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<v Speaker 3>they take too long, there's too many gatekeepers, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>what they don't strike now. Like technology is going to

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<v Speaker 3>replace job no matter how, no matter what they try

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<v Speaker 3>to do with the strike and try to put the

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<v Speaker 3>language in. You can't. You can't erase AI. It's here

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<v Speaker 3>to stay. So the whole idea of Hollywood is fading away.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually it's a bad business model that's dying. And

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<v Speaker 3>the student they realize that the better off they'll be,

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to save. They're trying to save the golden

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<v Speaker 3>age of Hollywood. It's over Lea through a weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>Movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's no, I'm saying that that's never gonna happen like

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<v Speaker 3>those are.

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<v Speaker 2>It's over like they're trying to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>They trying to do. How much money they spent like something,

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<v Speaker 3>how much money they spend on Barbie? Huge that budget

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<v Speaker 3>is it's not passing the eye test? Did one fifty five?

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<v Speaker 3>They spent a billion. They spent a lot, a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>they spent a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>And if anybody's looking at Mattel, which owns Barbie, and

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<v Speaker 6>twenty percent of the revenue from Motel comes from Barbie's merchandising,

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<v Speaker 6>and may tease the stock just for you watch.

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<v Speaker 2>They spent a lot, they spend a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just a common sense person. I think they will.

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<v Speaker 5>Spend one fifty on marketing and they made one fifty

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<v Speaker 5>five first at least one fifty on marketing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they spent more, but that's not that's not

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<v Speaker 3>even the actor. That's just domestic. That's just domestic. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they're losing money on it. That's my whole point.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see, well, I don't know, I'm not one hundred.

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<v Speaker 6>But even if it as well, right, let's say it

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<v Speaker 6>does well, there's only been one billion dollar movie and

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<v Speaker 6>we can't even count that well, we can't count there's

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<v Speaker 6>only been one billion dollar movie.

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<v Speaker 2>This year for all the markets and all the movies.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what it is?

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<v Speaker 4>What's that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Back the.

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<v Speaker 2>Mario Brothers.

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<v Speaker 6>Bro Mario Brothers is the only movie this year, but

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<v Speaker 6>they can count Avatar because it came out in December,

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<v Speaker 6>So Mary Brothers is the only one that's done a

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<v Speaker 6>billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if this does, it doesn't. It's not a fair assessment.

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<v Speaker 6>Of what the movie situation looks like because it's one.

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<v Speaker 6>It's one out of how four or five movies comes

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<v Speaker 6>come out a week.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't go to see any of them. The model

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<v Speaker 2>is different.

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<v Speaker 6>Now they got thirty days to put it on, but

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<v Speaker 6>you brought up something with the Pat McAfee thing, because

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<v Speaker 6>Disney is losing money, right, and it's cost.

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<v Speaker 2>Him a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a free agent out there that they keep saying

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<v Speaker 6>is coming to the network. Oh baby, what do you

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<v Speaker 6>think Shannon Sharper is worth.

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<v Speaker 4>The real number?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the what do you think the real number?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Because this toss Even Steve Mana says that, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he wants to bring him to the show. If Pat

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<v Speaker 6>McAfee is five years eighty five million.

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<v Speaker 3>But Steven A. Smith got like twelve million, so under pay.

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<v Speaker 4>He's under paid.

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<v Speaker 2>Even he's under paid.

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<v Speaker 3>To work, like to work seven days a week, going

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<v Speaker 3>to Utah, going.

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<v Speaker 5>To for real, they got him do a little cross

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<v Speaker 5>games and shit, he's running around the running around the

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<v Speaker 5>globe for I am good Ya Jesus, somebody go Stephen A.

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<v Speaker 5>Smith on the show.

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<v Speaker 6>We ain't going back to so Lake now man So,

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<v Speaker 6>uh no, it's gonna be interested to see I'm interested

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<v Speaker 6>in seeing that, especially when you hear the CEO of

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<v Speaker 6>the company saying that, Yo, we're losing money. In fact,

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<v Speaker 6>we got to figure out how we're gonna get this

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<v Speaker 6>twenty seven billion to get Hulu because that's on the

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<v Speaker 6>ticket before the end of the year. Then we got

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<v Speaker 6>to figure out how we're going to pay flats to

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<v Speaker 6>seventy one million for the search flight deal.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like, where are we getting the money? Disney

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<v Speaker 3>plus too much, they got too much going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're gonna combine Hulo and that was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the plans, he said.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know when what happened, and that's cut

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<v Speaker 4>you off. But I think one billion.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, seventy one billion, that million.

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus. And guess what.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's a model that I think would be really amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Shoot a fifteen million dollar movie. Bring it to me.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll give you forty sixty percent of the revenue and

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<v Speaker 5>we keep forty. And if they incentivize mister Beast to

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<v Speaker 5>do it because he's doing these big ass productions, I

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<v Speaker 5>think YouTube can end up being one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 5>movie producers in the next ten years.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a batter. Here's their model.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll pay you after this shit works.

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<v Speaker 4>Not bad, good idea.

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<v Speaker 5>It's only a one percent chance of failure. The way

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<v Speaker 5>the Hollywood has been doing it. Any accountant will tell

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<v Speaker 5>you that that is an upside down business. Mind you're

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<v Speaker 5>running negative, like even if you had a string of

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<v Speaker 5>like now Marvel and the Rocket isn't working. I knew

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<v Speaker 5>the movie industry was in trouble when they started talking

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<v Speaker 5>bad about the Black Adam.

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<v Speaker 4>Flop and wanted to get the Rock out of DC.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, if he can't make their franchise work and

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<v Speaker 5>him a superman, are not getting it, not getting along.

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<v Speaker 4>It's over with.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's a novel, idea, build something that people want, monetize

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<v Speaker 5>it after or the creators. Put your own money up

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<v Speaker 5>and bring it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, there's only a few franchises that work.

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<v Speaker 6>DC's it's a struggle that fast and furious that I

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<v Speaker 6>but it's just one franchise that.

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<v Speaker 2>They just keep doing over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>People love it. But that's yeah, just make the product

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll pay you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like success. Like the same thing will corporate is

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing with government. They're all stupid and they're

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<v Speaker 3>added touch, and they're all the only the only white men,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a it's a small demographic of the society

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<v Speaker 3>that's making rules for everything and they're completely out of touch.

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<v Speaker 3>Rite the check for investmentest that's a perfect example. If

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<v Speaker 3>you I don't know why Investvest doesn't have ten million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars in corporate sponsorships because they're out of touch of

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on. You get twenty thousand people to come

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<v Speaker 3>to learn about financial literacy, what else in the world

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<v Speaker 3>has that actually ever happened? And we got to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of golden back and forth with pitch decks and because

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<v Speaker 3>they are out of touch when real mean and it's

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<v Speaker 3>controlled by a small minority of white men who don't

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<v Speaker 3>even know what earning leisure is. This is this is

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<v Speaker 3>what music. This is why the music sounds like it sounds,

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<v Speaker 3>this is why the content has produced how it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's the same thing over and over again. They're

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<v Speaker 3>wasting money and they don't know what's what's happening with

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<v Speaker 3>culture society, and they keep just striking out, and they

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<v Speaker 3>get afforded luxuries to keep striking out, and they get rehired.

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<v Speaker 3>They get fired from one company, and then they get

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<v Speaker 3>hired at another company. And it's a whole network of

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<v Speaker 3>nonsense and it's been happening forever.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that was powered and he's accurate.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyone who thinks this is just as right when I say, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>we don't have twenty five productive companies, or like why

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<v Speaker 5>do you guys always talk about Apple and Microsoft because

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<v Speaker 5>Dura sell is not a great company, so sorry, Like

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<v Speaker 5>most of the companies that we love are not even here.

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<v Speaker 5>Samsung is not an American property, Like there's a real

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<v Speaker 5>we have so much inefficiency and like you said in

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<v Speaker 5>schooling bureaucracy, government corporate like like the bloat is too

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<v Speaker 5>much and then it's a slow erosion of our economy

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<v Speaker 5>as a result. But then the biggest companies could go

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<v Speaker 5>to other countries that they help build but won't help

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<v Speaker 5>build us here.

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<v Speaker 4>But what do I know if I made you money?

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<v Speaker 5>Please put yes and chat media businesses are in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Charlie Man.