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Speaker 3: And we are underway and welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 3: the Action Network NFL Fantasy Flex Podcast. Chris Raymond here,

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Speaker 3: Sean Kerner here, Cali is here. We're in the building,

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Speaker 3: still talking fantasy. I hope you liked the inaugural twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty one episode of the Flex with our AFC projections.

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Speaker 3: Today we're gonna get into our NFC projections, going team

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Speaker 3: all of our bets and prop picks for any sport

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Speaker 3: all season long. Sean, I know you've been crushing in

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Speaker 3: w NBA. How you feeling man good?

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Speaker 1: Speaking of WNBA, we have a four game slate tonight,

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Speaker 1: so again check my picks in the Action App. But

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good, how about you? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm hoping the NBA Finals is a four

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Speaker 3: and I've been kind of screaming out, you know, for

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Speaker 3: But I'm just hoping that you know, the Bucks don't

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm hoping for. Four game finals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I want to I want to sweep so

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Speaker 1: we can get your attention fully on the NFL because

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't call you out last time, but

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Speaker 1: you called the AFC North Central. That's NBA.

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Speaker 3: That is such a yeah. That's such like a random yeah.

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Speaker 3: And that's I mean, that's you know what that is too.

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Speaker 3: it used to be the like there was an AFC

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Speaker 3: So but yeah, man, we're gonna go through every team.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna try to get more of these

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Speaker 1: Do you do you.

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Speaker 3: Consider taking Tyreek or another wide receiver the wide receiver

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Speaker 3: don't think this is going to be fantasy relevant, but

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Speaker 3: Blake Jarwin and Dalton Schultzer tight end thirty four and

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Speaker 1: Jarwin could be fancy relevant. I'm even Schultz to I'm

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Speaker 3: So given that you have two wide receivers in at

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Speaker 3: He's at wide receiver fifty one. If you're high on

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Speaker 1: No. I think he has some sneaky upside because you

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Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna be lower on him than than consensus.

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Speaker 1: I very rarely advocate for Daniel Jones, but at QB

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Speaker 3: All right, Let's go to the prop for the Giants, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, So let's go with Kenny Galladay. Total receiving yards

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Speaker 1: getting a target. So I think that he and Jones

431
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Speaker 1: could have of a you know, sneaky connection because Jones

432
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: has shown the willingness you know, fit the ball in

433
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 1: tight coverage. So I think they you know, Kenny Golladay

434
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 1: could be sneaky if you get him towards like ADP

435
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver thirty, wide receiver like you know, like wide

436
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 1: receiver twenty five, the wide receiver thirty. I think he's

437
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 1: a sneaky picker in that range.

438
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and his move was great, Like I love the

439
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 3: move because it unlocks Slayton as that number two where

440
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 3: he had a lot of success, like he doesn't because

441
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 3: like he's not he's not a number one guy who's

442
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: gonna you know, beat coverage on the outside or you

443
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 3: know that consistently. That also allows Shepherd to not have

444
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: to play on the outside. He can be a slot

445
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 3: receiver where I think he's gonna be a little more

446
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 3: effective and he's always been better with you know, on

447
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: the inside. Remember Odell Beckham was kind of drawing away

448
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: coverage and Shepherd had like that big touchdown year one year,

449
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 3: like he had like eight or nine touchdowns or ten

450
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 3: or something like that. And you also allow Ingram and

451
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 3: Shepherd to now be like like it might even help

452
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 3: Ingram efficiency wise, if it doesn't help him, you know,

453
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 3: target wise, and then and he still have Barkley threatening defense.

454
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 3: You just have a lot to deal with as a

455
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,719
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator because of this god him. But you know

456
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 3: it's like you said, it's just target whise. Everyone's gonna

457
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: get hurt and the pace is slow. So but but

458
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: I actually think Tony would threaten Shepherd's job more. Not

459
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 3: that I think it should necessarily. I think Shepherd's a receiver,

460
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,479
Speaker 3: but I just think I don't I don't know if

461
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: Tony's gonna plan on the outside like that in year one. So,

462
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: uh yeah, it's a tough situation. Let's go to the Eagles.

463
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 3: Miles Sanders, he's the RB nineteen right now. Thoughts on

464
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 3: Sanders heading into this year, Well, you know.

465
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Speaker 1: At first, when Doug Peterson got canned, I thought, well,

466
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: this is great. We're gonna have Miles Sanders VI a

467
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: workhorse back. But I'm afraid the Eagles is going to

468
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: be the same old running back by committee where we

469
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: don't really know how it's gonna shape out. I think

470
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: he'll he'll dominate the rushing attempts, but when it comes

471
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: to the receiving work, I'm very worried about their fifth

472
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: round pick Kenneth Gainwell to you know, sap some of

473
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: the receiving usage there. And you know Miles Sanders's struggle

474
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: as a receiver lately. Last year he had the second

475
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: highest drop rate among running backs at twenty one percent,

476
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: so he's gonna have to improve there. So I'm worried

477
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: they're just gonna use you know, gain Weill or Boston

478
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: Scott or even carry On Johnson in the passing game.

479
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm shying away from Miles Sanders, who

480
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: I think will benefit from having Jalen Hurts. Understander, we

481
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: saw that last year where as soon as Jalen Hurts

482
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: started playing quarterback, you know, Miles Sanders was a lot

483
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: more efficient in the running game. But I don't think

484
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: we can confidently say he's gonna be wark horse back.

485
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: So I've been shying away from him. At the end

486
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: of that why I was running back two tier.

487
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he seemed to break a big play like every

488
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 3: week when he when he got the ball, and so

489
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 3: it's kind of a situation where I think, you know,

490
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: if you believe in his talent, you know, I wouldn't yeah,

491
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say, like shot at least take him at ADP.

492
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: But remember, big plays are kind of fickle, you know,

493
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 3: They're hard to carry over from year to year. And

494
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: then yeah, his pass game work could be threatened. Yeah,

495
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 3: I mean, what a fall from grace from carry on Johnson,

496
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: who's probably not even worth you know, discuss thing anymore

497
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: than like I guess Jordan Howard or somebody was.

498
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 1: You know, like a few years ago.

499
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 3: So what I think is interesting about this team is,

500
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Speaker 3: you know, obviously Jalen Hurts who will get to But

501
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 3: but the tight end situation, you have Dallas Goddard at

502
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: tight en eight, Zach Ertz at tight end sixteen. Ertz

503
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 3: does not want to be there. He's he's kind of

504
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: done with Billy. What do you make in a situation.

505
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: Is Goddard a safe pick as a top ten tight end,

506
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 3: and it doesn't really matter what happens with Ertz because

507
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: I know the usage kind of switched down a stretch

508
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: last year a little bit.

509
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it definitely matters what happens with thirds.

510
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: I think Dallas Goddard at tight end seven about a

511
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: month ago, but I've been slowly lowering his projection a

512
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: bit because what the hell, man, why aren't they trading

513
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: away zach Ertz? So it kind of worries me that

514
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: he hasn't been traded away quite yet. Obviously there's still

515
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: some time, but you know, I think once zach Ertz

516
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: and Nevilely gets traded, I think I'll bump got it

517
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: back up to tight end seven. Always been, you know,

518
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: advocating for God the past couple of seasons. Whenever zach

519
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 1: Ertz is out of the lineup, I think he's a

520
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 1: top five tight end. But you know, if they do

521
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: keep Ertz around and maybe they trade him later in

522
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: the season, I think I'm off Goddr. I would consider

523
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: more of a tight end ten in that situation because

524
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 1: I don't think a guy like Jalen Hurts can support

525
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: more than you know, two or three fancy relevant pass

526
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: catchers in the offense. So if if both got Her

527
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: and Ertz are there, I'm gonna be down on both

528
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: of them.

529
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Speaker 3: The Ertz was actually traded like three months ago. It

530
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 3: just takes him a while to separate at this point

531
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: in his career, so he'll be out by by week one.

532
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: It is where do you think? Where do you think

533
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: Ertz should go? Where do you think is the best fit.

534
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: I would say a team Baltimore would be interesting because

535
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, because I think I think that team

536
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 3: needs to go back to like that two tight end

537
00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 3: set and hidden Hurst role, right. I think the Rams

538
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: would be interesting. And then I mean obviously any team

539
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: that has like no tight ends, you know.

540
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: Like you know Carson Wentz Yeah, a yeah, I like

541
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: that a lot.

542
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I mean they always have like I mean,

543
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: they have what Doyle and Cox still there, It's exactly serviceable.

544
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think Earth's would help. But but the

545
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: thing is, the only reason I hesitate to say to

546
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: the cults is because, uh, like if you if you

547
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: kind of like followed the Philly media and like the

548
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: inside you know, like locker room weeks and stuff. Apparently

549
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 3: that's what caused about attention on the team and contributed

550
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: to Wentz's struggles, was that he would just look for Ertz,

551
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: who can't you know, isn't as good anymore, and that

552
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: would like slow his reads down to that receivers who

553
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 3: you know, like we're obviously not great, but still like

554
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 3: could separate and run faster than Eert's at this stage.

555
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: So I just wonder if that may actually mess up

556
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: Wentz just you know, having that security blanket who's not

557
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: really that secure anymore. But yeah, is probably just I mean,

558
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: he probably should be like more, not at every snap

559
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 3: player anymore. I think that would kind of lengthen his career.

560
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: But a guy who just started his career, Devin Smith,

561
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: he's the wide receiver forty and then Jalen Rager sixty seven.

562
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think of Smith the first

563
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: round pick for Philly. Did he have him upside at forty?

564
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: Well? I love him and I was hoping the Lions

565
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: would take him. He would just be you know, wide

566
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: receiver three from day one for me. So I don't

567
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: like the landing spot much. You know, he'll probably break

568
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: the recent trend of the Eagles drafting bus early on.

569
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, jj Arthega Whiteside, Jalen Rager, He's it's too

570
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: soon to call him a bus, but he was very

571
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: disappointing last year. I think DeVante Smith will break that trend,

572
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: but I think a bet on him as a bet

573
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: on Jalen Hurts, You're gonna have to believe that Jalen

574
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: Hurts is going to make a pretty big year two

575
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: leap as a passer to take him. So I'm a

576
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: fan of you know, if you're in best ball, take

577
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: a Hurts Smith stack, because in order for Smith to

578
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: go off, Hurts is gonna have to go off as well.

579
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: But again, well we'll get to we get to Hurts.

580
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: But I'm a little bit hesitant thinking that Hurts is

581
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: gonna make a big year two leap as a passer.

582
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm a little bit down on Smith,

583
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: even though I do love him as a talent.

584
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I like Smith. I think I like

585
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: him at for you, I just think he's gonna be open.

586
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: I just think he's gonna be like there will be

587
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: many plays where he'll be the only guy open, and

588
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like like even like he's

589
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: gonna get open more than God, or he's gonna get

590
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: open more than Earths, He's gonna get open more than Rager,

591
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: Like he's already the best guy that's gonna get opened.

592
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: So you're gonna have Hurts and you're gonna have those

593
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: broken plays even if you don't have like the consistent

594
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 3: down and down. But remember Hurts had a couple he

595
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: had like a three hundred yard game or two in

596
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: those in those four as, so.

597
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: Like him as a QB five in that range.

598
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were like every week we were like above

599
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: consensus on Hurts, right, So I'm not too worried about it.

600
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: I think this guy's talented. I think you know, he

601
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: had a case for that being the first wide receiver

602
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: taken or at least a second in the draft.

603
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: So but let's get stead of equals prop So yeah,

604
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: so Jalen Hurts. His rushing yards is why I love

605
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: him still as a you know, a low ENQB one.

606
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: Where do you have him projected? My rushing projection through

607
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: him is seven hundred and fifty Right now, are you

608
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: over under.

609
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: I'm at seven ninety. I love Hurts this year. I

610
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: think for the same reasons that I and probably all

611
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: of us loved him last season, and that's because when

612
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: you look at how much he scrambles, it's that's what's

613
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: really giving him his upside. He scrambled about fourteen percent

614
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: of the time. And remember, scrambles are almost like pass

615
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: attempts in terms of yardage, Like you know, there you're

616
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: gonna get about six seven yards on average per scramble,

617
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: whereas a design run, even if you're talking about like

618
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: a Kyler Murray or somebody that design runs are more

619
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: in line with the normal carry, like you know, like

620
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: a four or five yard run, whereas a scramble can

621
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: be like six seven eight yards on average. So Hurts

622
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: was scrambling essentially more than any other quarterback in the

623
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: league last year. You know this guy was this guy

624
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: was the top most frequent scrambler, and so that carries over.

625
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: That's a very predictive metric, like a quarterback who scrambles scrambles,

626
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: a quarterback who doesn't doesn't, and then the design runs

627
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: could change a little bit. But even that that's consistent too.

628
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: And so I think quarterback rushing production is just a

629
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: consistent stat and something that gives the quarterback upside and

630
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: something where you can find value and that's why, you know,

631
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 3: like Lamar, even in his first full year, it was like, Okay,

632
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: how much of this is going to carry over? And

633
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: like a lot did. Like yeah, he wasn't getting twenty

634
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: six carries because he was a quarterback, but he was

635
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: still you know, the scrambles were there, the design runs

636
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: were there, and I think they'll be there for Jalen

637
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: Hurt So I love him. He's still going to quarterback ten.

638
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: I mean, this guy has number one, number two overall upside,

639
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: just as Lamar did a couple of years ago. So

640
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: this is a guy I'm targeting across all fantasy drafts.

641
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: And then like I love your your your Smith Stack

642
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 3: idea because I'm because I'm so high on Hurts. The

643
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: Washington read I mean football team. Ryan Fitzpatrick's here now

644
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: he's a QB twenty six and ADP that could be

645
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: maybe kind of sneaky. I don't know, you know, he'll

646
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: have some big weeks. I think, Uh, Terry McLaurin wide

647
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 3: receiver eleven, Curtis Samuel, wide receiver forty one. What do

648
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: you think it O was?

649
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: ADPs? Yeah, it's it's hard to pass out McLaurin right,

650
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: because he's been able to post wide receiver one slash

651
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver two numbers. You know if case Key and him,

652
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins and Alex Smith, so give him Ryan Fitzpatrick

653
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: and I'm interested. So I love taking Terry mclaurran. I

654
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: love the upside there. He's already proven that he has

655
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: a pretty high floor. When it comes to Curtis Samuel,

656
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm about him like he offers a very high floor.

657
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: He's a wide receiver three slash flex option. But you know,

658
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: I don't I think his upside is pretty limited in

659
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: this offense. You know, he still has you know, really

660
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: good pass catching backs like Jade mcizick Antonio Gibson, so

661
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: I think they might eat into his usage a little

662
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: bit of scrimmage. But you know, I'm fine taking herund

663
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: adpuh if you know you want more of a high upside,

664
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: high floor option in PPR format. But I'm really high

665
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Speaker 1: on my Coorn this year.

666
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Samuel was a guy to discussed because

667
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: I think there's some volatility with his projection that did

668
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: I you know, probably we probably won't get a good

669
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: handle on until things shake out and can't but I'm

670
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: of the opinion that Samuel's much better used how he

671
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: was last year, which is inside. The year before, which

672
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 3: was twenty nineteen, he played mostly outside. He had a

673
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: fifty one point four percent catch rate, and he really

674
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 3: struggled with his efficiency his yards per target, which it

675
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: also depends on a quarterback, which wasn't good obviously, but

676
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: his yards for target was six point zero last year.

677
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: You know, still the quarterback situation wasn't great. I mean, Teddy,

678
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: if if it was that great, Teddy would still be there.

679
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: But they used him inside more. He goes to a

680
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: seventy nine point four percent catch rate, so it's catch

681
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: track up like thirty twenty eight points, like that's unheard of. Uh,

682
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: And he's a yards per target goes from six point

683
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: zero to eight point eight, so it's.

684
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Speaker 1: Just a total.

685
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: And this just with averaging a lower yard perception too,

686
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: So like this was just this is how you use him.

687
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm hopeful that Washington, even if it's uh,

688
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: you know, they have to put out cam Sin's there again,

689
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: even if they have to go with Brown, they're a

690
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: young guy that or you know, I mean, I know

691
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: they still have what like Gandy Golden, and.

692
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: Who's the other Carmen out of Humphreys. I mean, yeah,

693
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Speaker 1: number three.

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Speaker 3: That's what concerns me because if Humphries has a role

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Speaker 3: as a top three, now you're putting Samuel back into

696
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: that twenty nineteen situation. And I mean, I know Fitzpatrick

697
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: will throw it up, but it's like, this is not

698
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: a guy you needs to throw it up to. Like

699
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: he's fast, yes, but like that's the whole problem. Like,

700
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: you know, he's not just gonna come down with all

701
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: these fifty to fifty balls. So I mean, what are

702
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: your thoughts on is is that what you think ultimately happens,

703
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: because I think that would be a mistake.

704
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I must be. They're not. You know, I

705
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: think Adam Humphreys has an inside track for the you know,

706
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: the slot receiver role. He's he already has chemistry with

707
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: Fitsmagic from their Tampa Bay days. So yeah, there's just

708
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: too many. This is a very hard team to sort

709
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: out outside of Terry McLaurin when it comes to target share.

710
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: So I share your concerns with Samuel. That's why I'm saying,

711
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I don't hate if people target him AVP.

712
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: But I'm probably shying away here. I got it.

713
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: I'll give you a prop before you give me the prop.

714
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: Just an overrunder in full PPR. If Adam Humphries is

715
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: the full time slot and Samuel is the full time

716
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: like outside guy with what percentage of the time, what

717
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: percentage of weeks does Humphreys outscore Samuel?

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00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: Wow, I would just put it at like twenty percent range.

719
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: See, I think it's closer to like forty because like,

720
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: I just think this guy wouldn't be efficient outside and

721
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: Washington's defense is so good that like a lot of weeks,

722
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: it may just be mcquarin and everyone it's getting three,

723
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: you know, like three or four targets, and Humphrey's probably

724
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 3: catches all four.

725
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, and Samuel might catch two.

726
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: And Samuel only had three touchdowns on ninety seven targets

727
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: last year, fourteen on two hundred and ninety three targets

728
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: in his career, so it's not like he's a big

729
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 3: touchdown score. So I mean that scares me. Like the

730
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 3: fact that like Humphrey's was signed, I just that that

731
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 3: that scares me.

732
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: I like, your heads up, But I'll still take the

733
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: under forty percent. Okay, No, I mean it'll probably be

734
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: right in the middle.

735
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: No, us, that'd be like thirty And I mean if

736
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: Humphy's even plays ten games or whatever.

737
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: But what's the prop for Washington? So Antonio Gibson, I

738
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: think his his reception production is fascinating to me. It

739
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: can go many different directions. So curious why you're out there.

740
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: But I have forty two and a half side.

741
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: I got forty two. So yeah, I mean yeah, I

742
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: mean we're right there. I mean I'll take the under

743
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: just you know, That's where I'm at. I don't think

744
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: I don't think they So here's the thing. I just

745
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: don't think they need him to be a huge part

746
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: of the passing. I mean, he's he's a talented guy. However,

747
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: they need to get him touches. They will, But you

748
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: got Samuel there, who could take a backfield snap or two.

749
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: You got Machissic there. They love using all these guys interchangeably.

750
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: But Gibson's really and this is kind of crazy, but

751
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: he kind of established himself as that guy that could

752
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 3: run inside and be there like kind of Bell Cows

753
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: this season Progresso and goal on right. Yeah, So I

754
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: don't think they need to give him forty two receptions

755
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: and signing Thomas. I mean, excuse me signing humphreeze. You

756
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: still have Thomas, you still have mclauren yet, Like, there's

757
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 3: a lot of guys that could that could catch the

758
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: ball underneath and get yards after the catch. Gibson is

759
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: one of them, but he's they don't need to do it.

760
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: I agree, But I mean his rous run per dropback

761
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: was in the thirty five percent range last year, and

762
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: Jade mcizick was, you know, sixty five and that was

763
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: with Alex Smith, who's rolls known as a checkdown machine.

764
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: So I just think that he has room to grow

765
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: like he could become if needed. Obviously, you know sixty

766
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: five percent routs run type of back, and that's where

767
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: he has serious high ended RB one upside. So that's

768
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: why you know, I think he could be a sixty

769
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: plus catch guy if needed. But I agree that they

770
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: probably won't need him. But if a guy like mckisic

771
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: were to go down, like they may have no choice,

772
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: like he might be that true workhorse back. That's that's

773
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: why I'm interested in Gibson at ADP right now.

774
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I do think they have some like

775
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 3: because we all had concerns. I mean, coming out of school,

776
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: this guy he was like a receiver, like, you know,

777
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: how can he how was he gonna hold up right?

778
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 3: And so I think my my personal view is that

779
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: they would always try to curb his touches, right, I

780
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: think they're What I could see happening is if mckiss

781
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: it goes down, because they like McKissick, and I was,

782
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: I was screaming this last year and like, I don't

783
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 3: think you necessarily giving me a hard time about it,

784
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: but I know I remember Friedman was and like I

785
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: was just like they signed this guy with the intent

786
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: to like use him the way they did, and Samuel

787
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 3: as well. So I think that what you could see

788
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: is if they need to use Gibson in more of

789
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: a receiving role, I think they would use like a

790
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: Peyton Barber type, you know, like like that kind of

791
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: back to take some of Gibson's car. He's like, I don't,

792
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know if they'll ever want to

793
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: give Gibson like twenty five.

794
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: I think twenty yeah.

795
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: I mean he's probably he's gotten that a couple of times, right,

796
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: But twenty five. I don't know if they'll use them

797
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: like CMS, like you know, like like McCaffrey was used

798
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: back in Carolina, just because I think they are kind

799
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: of wary about that, but I could be wrong. But

800
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: either way, great, great upside.

801
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're right, I wasn't giving you a crap

802
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: about anything. JD mcizick orlated it was Peyton Barber. I

803
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: was giving a crap for taking the Peyton Barber under

804
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: three and a half rushing yards on convinced me that's.

805
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: I mean, wow, I totally forgot about that. Yeah, yeah,

806
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: that's yeah. I mean no, I just remember like there

807
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: was like coming in a year. I was like, hey

808
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 3: watch Peyton Barber and Jada McKissick be like the other

809
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: two guys with Gibson and like everyone was on there,

810
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: Adrian Peterson.

811
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: Train and I think it was Bryce Love and so.

812
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, like there was people that had like Bryce Love

813
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: and Peterson ahead of like the guys who ended up

814
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: being like on the roster. But it's like it's so

815
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: hard to predict this time of year, but Gibsons at

816
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: RB twelve. Mckiss is a RB forty five in a

817
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: PPR league. I think I would have worried. I always

818
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: like getting those path catchers like the year before they

819
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: blow up. Like I think last year was a year

820
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: to draft Mecasic. Now you could see Samuel take some

821
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 3: of that mechistic role, so I'd probably pass on him.

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Speaker 3: So dat I got Williams and Cohen they're there. They're

855
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: going off the board. Fifty three fifty five, But would

856
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 3: you think Montgomery kind of keeps that more more featured

857
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 3: role than he had kind of when Cohen was interfering

858
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: so to speak a little more.

859
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a bit mixed on him because you know,

860
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: we finally saw him breakout at the end of last year.

861
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: He was the RB two from weeks twelve through seventeen.

862
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: A large part of that was treet Cone was out

863
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: and they had zero depth behind him. I remember, like

864
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: we were projecting Cordell Patterson, Ryan Noll got literally no carries,

865
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: so it was like very easy to project all the

866
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: touches going to Montgomery. But now Tree cones back in

867
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: the mix, which I'm not too high on him entering

868
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: this season. But Damian Williams, they've already said that he'll

869
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: probably be the main backup to Montgomery and then cert Herbert.

870
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: You know, he's a rookie to pay attention to, like

871
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: he has more depth behind him. So I am concerned

872
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: that he won't have enough touches to be more that

873
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: high end RB two because he's been a guy historically

874
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: that he has been efficient. He just you know, he

875
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: relies on that volume, so you know, based on his ADP,

876
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: though he is going late enough, you know the end

877
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: of the RB two tier where you know, I could say, sure,

878
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: take him because he does have the upside. And I

879
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: think it just goes to show how deep the RB

880
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: two tier is this year. This time last year, it

881
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: was guys like Melvin Gordon, Leveon Bell, you know, Todd Gurley,

882
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: those guys are going in this range and we have

883
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: these high upside guys like Dave Montgomery, Melo Sanders, JK.

884
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: Dobbins and some drafts. Yeah, show how deep are the

885
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: RB two tiers this year. That's why I'm fine taking

886
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: Montgomery where he is, because he does have that upside.

887
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I almost think they're gonna there's gonna be

888
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: a little bit of a shift. I mean, I think

889
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: you know, Cohen was kind of this, he was they

890
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: just had to play him because they didn't have many

891
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 3: options on offense. But now you know, they can run

892
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: two tight end sets, you know, and Montgomery kind of

893
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: showed that he could be that feature back, which is

894
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 3: why I think you go get Williams, who was more

895
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: of like a diverse like, Okay, he can run and

896
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: he can catch, versus Cohen, who you know, when Montgomery

897
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: goes down you have to play Montgomery, uh, you know,

898
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: on a snaps because Cohen, you know, like, let's say

899
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 3: Montgomery is the guy who went down, Cohen wouldn't play,

900
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: you know, Cohen wouldn't be like a twenty touchdown.

901
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: So I think I think it signifies.

902
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: A little bit of a shift schematically for Chicago. But yeah,

903
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: I think Montgomery has some value there. I think he

904
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: still will be more heavily used than he was initially

905
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: with Cohen healthy, Alan Robinson the wide receiver twelve, and

906
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 3: then you have Mooney at fifty five.

907
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on those guys. Yeah, I'm having difficulty taking

908
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: a Rob at ADP. There's just so many guys in

909
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: that range. I prefer I just tend to take the

910
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: guy that falls to me, and it's usually not a rob.

911
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit concerned if Justin Fields takes over

912
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: early in the season that that could hurt his value

913
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: a little bit. They might become more run heavy offense,

914
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, spread the ball around a bit more, whereas

915
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: I could see Andy Dalton certainly locking in on a

916
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: guy like a Rob. So I think early in the

917
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: season a Roell's value might be a bit higher. But

918
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: I tend to just wait when it comes to that

919
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: range at wide receiver. The guy I'm interested in is

920
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: Donald Mooney. I think he has the upside you want

921
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: later in drafts. You know, he's he's a deep threat

922
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: that didn't get to reach his potential last year because

923
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: he didn't see any catch ule balls. He was targeted

924
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: twenty four times with a pass that traveled more than

925
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: twenty yards through the air, which was tenth most, but

926
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: he had the second most uncatchable balls over twenty yards.

927
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: He had eighteen uncatchable balls. So if either you know,

928
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 1: justin Fields or Andy Dalton can get him some catchable

929
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: deep balls, I think the hit that upside this year

930
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: that I think he's capable of.

931
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Mooney is definitely a sleeper, especially when

932
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: you consider that, you know, you have Jimmy Graham and

933
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: Coke met still there at tight end and a Rob's

934
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: really the only guy. And actually I'm fine with a

935
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: reb I don't want him over maybe like a McLaurin,

936
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 3: you know, somebody that's like a little younger, but like

937
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 3: Arab is in that prime of his career stage. I

938
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: mean he's twenty, he's gonna be this is gonna be

939
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: the age twenty eight season, and he did what receivers

940
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 3: tend to do at this age, you know, twenty six

941
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: a then career high six point one catches per game,

942
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: and then last year to restate.

943
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: That with six point four catches per game.

944
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: He's got one hundred and fifty four targets in twenty nineteen,

945
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty one and twenty twenty. I think

946
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: he's safe, you know, I think he's kind of shed

947
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: that injury prone label. I think he's safe, and I

948
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: don't think the Bears are going to be very good,

949
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: especially on defense, so I think that the volume will

950
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 3: be there for him. And that's why I like Mooney

951
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: as well. I think, you know, there's just going to

952
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: be volume for the taking.

953
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: Who would rather have CD Lamb or A Rob?

954
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 3: A Rob a Rob because just because you know there's

955
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: still again, it's just it comes down to volume, and

956
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: a Rob has that like one hundred sixty plus, like

957
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 3: he has that league leader target seal, right. I don't

958
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: know if Lamb has that as long.

959
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: In the current setup.

960
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: I think he has a talent wise, like he deserves

961
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: it and he will deserve it. I just don't think

962
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: he's there yet you know, so that that's kind of

963
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: why I would still go A.

964
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you there. I just think that Lamb

965
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: goes around or two later and I have him close,

966
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: So I just like getting the value just around two later.

967
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I'm not slamming a in anyway.

968
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: It's just I like taking these guys just a round

969
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: or two later.

970
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: Are we interested in We're not interested in the tight end.

971
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: So let's just let's just get to the prop, uh

972
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: for Chicago.

973
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my prop is when will Justin Fields make

974
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: his first start? Will he make his start by week four?

975
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: I have week four as I have that circled, so

976
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: they play the Lines at home, I believe in week four, Uh,

977
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: and I could because they have three games, three kind

978
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: of tougher games, uh, to start the year. The Rams

979
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 3: that the Bengals, they you know, that's kind of a

980
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 3: toss up at this point I think for them. And

981
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: then they played it Titans. I believe it is so uh.

982
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: You know, I could see them going you know, one

983
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: and two, zero to three, underperforming.

984
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: Uh.

985
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: What better way to for Feels to make his first

986
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 3: start than against like perhaps the worst team in the

987
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: league at home?

988
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: Uh in week four, So I have week four circled uh,

989
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: as far as I'm projecting. Yeah, same here, I'm saying boats,

990
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: you and I haven't projected for thirteen and a half

991
00:46:59,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: games as a result.

992
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Oh, so I don't have him quite projected

993
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: for that many games because I don't know.

994
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: Like there, I think I could see I could see.

995
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 3: Them going back to Dalton for like a game or two,

996
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, I think I think

997
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: it's kind of one of those things where if he

998
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: doesn't blow up, blow blow up, like right away, you

999
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 3: could see like.

1000
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: You're seeing more of a to uh Fitzpatrick's.

1001
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean, I just don't

1002
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: I think Fields, I just don't. I think Fields needed

1003
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: a little longer to develop. Like I don't think he

1004
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 3: was the NFL ready as impressive as he is, as

1005
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: as like a mac Jones for example, So I could

1006
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 3: see I could see there being like another you know,

1007
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: junk starting there for like like for like a veteran.

1008
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 3: But uh, let's go to the Lions. Jared Goff is

1009
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: going as the QB thirty two right now, and maybe

1010
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: that's because his wide receivers are a mon Ross Saint Brown,

1011
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 3: the rookie Breshad Perriman, and Quintez Cefist. But none of

1012
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: these wide receivers are going higher than seventy three at ADP, So, like,

1013
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: somebody has to catch passes. Besides, TJ. Hockinson is known

1014
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 3: as a top five tight end. I think that's that's legit,

1015
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 3: that's it's warranted. But like, talk to me about this

1016
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: this pass game for Detroit, because they're gonna be down

1017
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 3: almost every game. They have the you know, bottom two

1018
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: win total. I mean, what, somebody's got to catch passes

1019
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: beside Hockinson and Swift.

1020
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. This offense, we we want to

1021
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: target it because there's gonna be plenty of negative game scripts,

1022
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: which is great for the passing offense. This is a

1023
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: rebuilding team, but unfortunately, one of the biggest weaknesses is

1024
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: their wide receiver depth, so they don't have anyone to

1025
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: throw to. I think it's gonna be a lot of TJ.

1026
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: Howkinson and you know, both running backs honestly in the

1027
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: passing game. But you know, it's worth taking a flyer

1028
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: in any one of these receivers. I think Tyrol Williams

1029
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: makes the most sense. I feel like, we haven't talked

1030
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: about him in three years now, but he's the cheapest

1031
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: potential wide receiver one in the league. You can get

1032
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: him at ADP of wide receiver eighty eight, so he's

1033
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: worth a player. I think. I think Brashad Perrym it

1034
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense because you know, Gof's not a guy

1035
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna be chucking it deep, so I don't see

1036
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: much of a fit with Perryman. And then I'm on Ross.

1037
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: Saint Brown is interesting, like they're gonna have to play

1038
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: him a lot to see what they have in him

1039
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: going forward. So you know, he's an interesting late round fire.

1040
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: But certainly any one of these guys, they're basically free,

1041
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: you know, take a fire on them because one of

1042
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: them has to hit, I think. And then TJ. Howkinson

1043
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: will be the target monster in this offense, so you know,

1044
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 1: I I would gladly take TJ at tight end five

1045
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: at ADP right now. Yeah, I like I like TJ.

1046
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: I like I like Saint Brown a lot.

1047
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: I think he like I just I don't want to

1048
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: take uh like kind of like washed STEMI washed veterans

1049
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 3: like Williams impowerment, even if they could potentially be to

1050
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: wire receiver one because they could also potentially be like

1051
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 3: inactive on game day. I think over who's gonna start

1052
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: over them? That's the thing. I mean, I just think, like,

1053
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: you have no reason not to play Saint Brown. You

1054
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: probably have no reason not to look at seas even

1055
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 3: though I know it's a new regime, you know what

1056
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 3: I mean. I think he's got decent talent, so and

1057
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: then you know, I just I just don't. I mean,

1058
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: I think one of Williams or Perman will start, or

1059
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: if not both, but how for how long and how

1060
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 3: how productive will they be? Because Williams is kind of

1061
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: similar to Perman. I mean, Williams is more of a

1062
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 3: kind of go deep down and get him. But he

1063
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: did have some success with car so maybe that's a

1064
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: positive because GoF kind of is like similar quarterback in

1065
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: that sense with deep throwing, so I could see it

1066
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 3: Williams reunited with the with Anthony Winn here. But yeah,

1067
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: Saint Brown.

1068
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: Is just a guy.

1069
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: I just like to target the the guys that we

1070
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 3: know less about, I guess, because that's where I see

1071
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: the upside. And speaking of upside, give us the proper

1072
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 3: notes arounds. DeAndre Swift entering year two.

1073
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm curious how you're projecting this running back,

1074
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: potentially running back by committee according to Anthonylyn, how it's

1075
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: going to shake out. So my prop is DeAndre Swift

1076
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: total rushing and receiving yards right now have eleven hundred yards.

1077
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: I have ten to fifty. So kind of in the

1078
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 3: same ballpark, you know, Williams. Anytime you see a new

1079
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: you know, kind of regime takeover in a place, you

1080
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 3: never know exactly how the breakout is going to go.

1081
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: I mean, you do have a situation where I think

1082
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: Swift could be like Echuer, So I still like his upside.

1083
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm not like shining away from him. But Williams is

1084
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 3: a guy who could take snaps in both facets. You know,

1085
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: he could take running snaps, he could take receiving snaps.

1086
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 3: He's a very solid guy. Hopefully you just kind of

1087
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 3: hope he gets like past blocking snaps and the routes

1088
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 3: still mostly go to Swift. But and then you just

1089
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 3: got to kind of factor in the injuries and in

1090
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: the fact that Detroit is not gonna probably have many

1091
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: positive running game scripts anyway. So I think Swift will

1092
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: be a good receiver, a good a good pick in fantasy.

1093
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm right right around there, right around to

1094
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 3: ten ten to eleven hundred yards.

1095
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you tried to warn Freeman and I lost year

1096
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: about Jamal Williams. Yeah. Again, I'm never underestimating Jamal Williams.

1097
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, to be fair, A lot of

1098
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: that comes from again, it's like the organization, right, So

1099
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 3: it's like in Green Bay, it was like they love

1100
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: Aaron Jones like that, this is that, and then and

1101
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: then and then you know, because they spent capital on Dylan.

1102
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: It was like you could see it like looking a

1103
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: few years down the line, like they wanted to have

1104
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 3: that one two punch. It was just that was was

1105
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 3: Jones gonna play himself out of that contract? Or was

1106
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 3: it gonna be Williams? And it ended up being a Williams.

1107
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: But I mean now here, yes they did sign him,

1108
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 3: but he has no history really here. You know, Like

1109
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: it's it's so like I think now you have Swift

1110
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 3: with like I have. I think Swift he's a less

1111
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 3: of a threat as he was to like Dylan and

1112
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: Jones last year. I think to Swift like Swift has upside.

1113
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: So even though I took the under with with your projection.

1114
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 3: I think you're I like where your head is at

1115
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: with this one, and I like, I do like Swift,

1116
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm drafting him, I'm not. I'm not dating him by

1117
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 3: any means. Uh, let's go to the Packers. Aaron Jones

1118
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: the RB nine, A J Dillon a year later, a

1119
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 3: post hype RB thirty seven. I mean, Jones is a

1120
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: top ten running back. Can you make a case for

1121
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 3: Jones over like Zeke for example, like because like I mean,

1122
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 3: it's just it's it's based on Aaron Rodgers.

1123
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: I guess right, yeah, that's what What the hell are

1124
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: you doing with Aaron Rodgers? I don't know if we

1125
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: could bank on him to be the week one starter

1126
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: for the Packers. So how how much of an impact

1127
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: does that have in your model for Jones? Because for me,

1128
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, he'll he'll probably still be a high end

1129
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: RB two even with Jordan Love under center. I think

1130
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: he's that talented. But certainly, if if we were to

1131
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: have the clarity that Aaron Rodgers would be the week

1132
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: one starter, I would love Aaron Jones at ADP right now,

1133
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: because I think he is more of a mid range

1134
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: RB one without jam Williams there, But how are you

1135
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: factoring in that Aaron Rodgers uncertainty into this this backfield

1136
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: right now?

1137
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: I think it changes much because I think if you

1138
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 3: have a different quarterback Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Jones is like

1139
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: probably the focal point of this offense over Devonte Adams.

1140
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 3: So I don't think it changes much becau Dylan wasn't

1141
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 3: really involved last year. So like, I just think Dylan

1142
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 3: is Williams, Jones is Jones, and whatever touchdowns you lose

1143
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: from the offense being able to drive up and down

1144
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 3: the field with Rodgers, you probably get it back in

1145
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: just usage with Jones because he's probably going to have

1146
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: to beat like he's going to be the game plan

1147
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: every week.

1148
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: You can't.

1149
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 3: You can't, you know, aim on throwing, you know, fifteen

1150
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: times to DeVante Adams every week because you're not throwing

1151
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: forty times with Jordan Love every week, you know. So

1152
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 3: I actually think Jones is a safe a pretty safe vet.

1153
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 3: I'm interested to what you think at Dylan at thirty

1154
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 3: seven though, because that's I mean, you know, like that

1155
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: could go either way. I think, I mean, I think

1156
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 3: he is going to get the Williams role, which then

1157
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 3: kind of puts them in that in that range.

1158
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I love AJ Dillon and I have

1159
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: been one of my main dynasty leagues. So I was

1160
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: bummed that they signed Aaron Jones with that extension. But yeah,

1161
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: I view him as a high upside handcuff. Really, you're

1162
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: not expecting much week to week. As long as Aaron

1163
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: Jones there, he might siphon away goaling touchdown or two.

1164
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: Now that Jamal Williams.

1165
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 2: Why why why would the guy who's the best player

1166
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: at scoring touchdowns in the league. You get like, like,

1167
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: why wouldn't he just get like That's what I don't get, Like,

1168
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: I get that he's big, Dylan is big, but Jones

1169
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: has been literally the best red zone runner for the last.

1170
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: Like three years. I disagree with you when it comes

1171
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: to I think if Aaron Rodgers isn't there is going

1172
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: to impact their touchdown chair quite a bit. I think

1173
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: that the touchdown projections for the Packers to go down.

1174
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: I think we could agree on that. No, I agree

1175
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: with that.

1176
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: I meant I meant the production, Like somebody she would

1177
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 3: get like less six pointers, but he would get more

1178
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 3: yardage that would equate to, like, you know, making up

1179
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 3: some of that different different.

1180
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think Aaron Rodgers has less of

1181
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: an impact on the running backs than the ancillary receivers

1182
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: and Robert Tunyan specifically. I think those are the people

1183
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: that have the biggest impact. Yeah, you know who's main quarterbacks.

1184
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, No, I do think Dylan has RB three

1185
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: slash flex potential on certain weeks. You know, maybe if

1186
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: they have like their they're a big favorite, let's say, certainly.

1187
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: I think he's useful in no situations, but I think

1188
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: when you take him, you're still just banking on the

1189
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: RB two injury upside when if Aaron Jones will ever

1190
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: go down, I just consider AJ Dillon a handcuff rather

1191
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: than a guy you're planning to start every week.

1192
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a better one of the better handcuffs obviously, Yeah,

1193
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 3: but yeah, a handcuff. None the West still the West

1194
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 3: Town much west talented receiver than Joe. I think, you

1195
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 3: know what, you know, what I think is like a

1196
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 3: best case scenario for AJ Dillon kind of like a

1197
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: Ronald Jones type of situation where you know what I mean,

1198
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 3: Like it's like there's two backs, they're both good. You

1199
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: don't get much receiving, but you're just busting off, you know,

1200
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: big runs, you know, enough to kind of pay off.

1201
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's what I see for for uh,

1202
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 3: Dylan Tanyan is the tight end eighteen. I mean he's

1203
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: gonna beat that a Rogers quarterback like that's like that's

1204
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 3: pretty simple, right.

1205
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's probably the guy tied

1206
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers of the most where he's undraftable if

1207
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: it's Jordan lah And then if Aaron Rodgers is the

1208
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: week on starter, he's gonna smash ADP there because you

1209
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: know he's touchdown dependent, which is I'm saying that the

1210
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: Packers touchdown projection is tied to Aaron Rodgers starting week one.

1211
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: So that's that's why I'm saying, Tunyan, if you think

1212
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is gonna start week one, you want to

1213
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: load up Ontonian now while you can get him cheap.

1214
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: How how do you factor in the uncertainty with Adams then?

1215
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: Because he's going as the number two wide receiver on

1216
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 3: Fantasy Pros consensus half PPR ADP, behind Tyreek, but ahead

1217
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: of Stefan Diggs, DeAndre Hopkins, dk Metcalp, Calvin Ridley, AJ Brown,

1218
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson, Michael Thomas, Keenan, Allen Terry, mclarren, and Allen Robinson.

1219
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 3: So like, I mean, it's like Adam is another guy, right,

1220
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: It's like he's probably the number one overall, but like

1221
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: how much do you discount the uncertainty it's two enough?

1222
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: Or you know, should he be more of like a

1223
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: top five guy?

1224
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: Like where do you have him? I think he's a

1225
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: top five guy right now. I would take Stefan Diggs

1226
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: over him, So have Diggs number two. I think with

1227
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: the uncertainty, take Diggs there. But you know, Adams is

1228
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: an elite receiver. I think he can put up wide

1229
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: receiver one numbers with anybody. We saw that and yeah, yeah,

1230
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: seventeen Brett Hunley had to make seven starts. And I

1231
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: don't care what you think about Jordan Love. I think

1232
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: he's a better talent than Brett Hunley and Devonte. Adams

1233
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: put up wide receiver fourteen numbers in those seven starts,

1234
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: so he's proven that he could. He could put up

1235
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: borderline wide receiver one numbers with some scrub in there.

1236
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: So I do think he will be mid to low

1237
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver one if Jordan loves in there so I

1238
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: think when you facor that in, I would still draft

1239
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: him and say the wide receiver three, wide receiver four. Again,

1240
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers situation is so murky that it's hard

1241
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: to have a strong opinion about that. But if if

1242
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: you're confident he'll play for the Packers by say week three,

1243
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: definitely take davont Aams wide receiver three. All right, what's

1244
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: the prop? The prop is Aaron Rodgers total touchdown passes?

1245
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: And how how are you handling his games played? Specifically?

1246
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: Production right now is thirty four and a half. I

1247
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 1: have thirty five.

1248
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 3: Like this is because like for people out there, like

1249
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 3: we don't actually compare notes. We have an outline that

1250
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 3: we put like like Sean will put the prop in,

1251
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: but like he doesn't put his projection in, So like

1252
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: we're not comparing notes in the sense of like, Okay,

1253
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 3: we're looking and it's like there's been a couple of

1254
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: these where we're like right on.

1255
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: That makes you feel better about my projection?

1256
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I I we're in what this is July

1257
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 3: early July. The NBA is not even over as we

1258
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 3: record this. I'm not gonna go out and like adjust

1259
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers to some something that for something that we

1260
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 3: don't really know. I'm just gonna assume that he's playing.

1261
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna assume that he has he's in Green Bay.

1262
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna assume that his receiving core drops off a

1263
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: cliff after DeVante Adams, and I'm gonna assume that he

1264
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 3: still has after seeing him last year, he still has

1265
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: a few years left in him. I thought he was

1266
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 3: going downhill like some quarterbacks tend to do. But I

1267
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: think a lot of that is just has just been

1268
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 3: his his supporting cast and kind of the offense. I

1269
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: think they've kind of figured out a way for him

1270
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 3: to operate at at a high level. Even with this,

1271
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: you know, after Deavonte, who the defenses know what's coming,

1272
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 3: he still manages to put up huge numbers. So I'm

1273
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 3: not gonna slander Aaron Rodgers this year.

1274
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: He's proven.

1275
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 3: He's proven me wrong, He's proven everybody. He's proven the

1276
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 3: doubt is wrong. Probably should have been in the super Bowl.

1277
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 3: It's not some questionable coaching decision and draft decisions, because

1278
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 3: maybe the guy would have been opening. He wouldn't have

1279
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 3: had to even think about, you know, he would have

1280
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: been able to throw to the end zone there, So yeah,

1281
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 3: I think I think thirty in the mid thirties is

1282
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,959
Speaker 3: where you're gonna see him as a medium projection. Let's

1283
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 3: go to Minnesota. Kirk Cousins pretty good year last year.

1284
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: Do you like him at all? QB seventeen. Do you

1285
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: think that's like an upside spot about where he should

1286
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: be or what that's that's about where he should be.

1287
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he'll return value there if he plays, you know,

1288
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: all seventeen games. But the thing with Cousins, he has

1289
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: limited upside, So you know, if you're going for upside

1290
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: in that range, maybe pass on him. Maybe take a

1291
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: guy like Justin Field's in that range would be a

1292
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: good guy target for upside. But what you see is

1293
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: what you get with Cousins. He has one of the

1294
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: best wide receiver duos in the league with Justin Jefferson

1295
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: Adam Thielen, and I think Irv Smith will step up

1296
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: and have a pretty big year. So I think Kirk

1297
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: Cousins is a safe play, but again, just a lower ceiling,

1298
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: so you have to you know, depending on what format

1299
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: you're in Taylor, Taylor draft that way.

1300
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 3: And then Dalvin Cook, is he your number two running back?

1301
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: That's where he's going right now.

1302
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's my number two. You know, you might

1303
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: consider a guy like Derrick Henry there, but I'm sticking

1304
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: with I like Derrick Henry. Like, it's no guy like

1305
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. Every year I try to make it a

1306
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: point to be like above ADP on Derreck Henry. It's

1307
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: getting really hard right now. So that's why I have

1308
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: number three right now, has ADP's number four, number three,

1309
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: but I can't. I can't move in above Dalvin Cook.

1310
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: I think Dalvin co is a lock at number two

1311
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: right now.

1312
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would take Henry first evening. I just think

1313
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: the fact they're in the durability now seriously, Like it's

1314
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 3: like because like everyone said that about McCaffrey, Like, yo,

1315
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 3: he's missed no games, but like he's not as big

1316
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: like Derek. Derek Henry's durability makes sense, you know what

1317
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 3: I mean. It's not just like, Okay, he's happened to

1318
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 3: be mostly healthy and rarely miss games. Like look at

1319
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 3: his body in the way he's built, Like it just

1320
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 3: makes sense that he's durable, right, Whereas like Cook, he's

1321
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: had some issues at points in his career McCaffrey now

1322
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 3: is coming, you know, you know, until that armor breaks,

1323
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 3: and it will eventually with Henry, but until that armor breaks. Man,

1324
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 3: Like I'm not saying I would take him every draft,

1325
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 3: but like if i'm you know, we do so many drafts,

1326
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 3: like I'm I'm have one hundred drafts and I get

1327
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 3: one hundred first picks. I'm taking Derrick Henry there, you know,

1328
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 3: like thirty twenty thirty percent of.

1329
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: Time at least, you know what I mean. That's just yeah,

1330
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 1: I give that speech every year. Thank you for doing

1331
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: it for me. But when it comes to projecting running backs,

1332
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: you mentioned all the time too that we project you know,

1333
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: one or two miss games for every running back. Mostly

1334
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: by default, Derrick Henry is the only guy I just

1335
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: mainly raise it lower or lower it to like a

1336
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: half to one game miss because he's he's just watched

1337
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: the guy. He's durable. I compare it like if he

1338
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: gets like a hamsterring injury, it's less Hinderson because he's

1339
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: like a monster truck that gets like a thumbtack and

1340
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: the tire, it's like doesn't matter. So he's the guy

1341
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: where especially this year is probably the last year I

1342
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: would say of his prime, where I'm projecting him for

1343
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: almost the full seventeen game season, but I would say

1344
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: maybe next year is when we start to dock him

1345
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: for the you know, the standard one or two games

1346
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: and this because I think he is gonna go off

1347
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: that cliff and it could be like next year, but

1348
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have one more really good year

1349
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: this year.

1350
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let the eye test just dictated for me,

1351
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 3: because like if he's in like week seventeen this year

1352
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 3: or whatever eighteen, his schedule is all crazy this year,

1353
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 3: but like whatever late in the year and he's like

1354
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 3: throwing everyone sideways and trucking people and going for three

1355
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 3: hundred yards.

1356
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm not changing anything, you know what I mean? Twenty

1357
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: two it's just not back to the Vikings running backs, right, Yeah,

1358
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: Madison one of the best backup running BACKSI stache? Is

1359
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: he not? Yeah?

1360
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 3: It's probably not because they drafted uh the wang nwangu

1361
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: right like in.

1362
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: The fourth rot you know. No, I think, if anything,

1363
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: he might be like the Mike Boone replacement. But I

1364
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: think that they're they're already saying they intend him to

1365
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: be on special teams. I didn't get that draft pick

1366
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be a threat to

1367
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: Madison's workload. Like either way, even if Dalvin Cook is

1368
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: healthy or out, I think Madison will still be the guy.

1369
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I'm just I'm not as high on

1370
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: him as I was in past years with like, Okay,

1371
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 3: this guy is a slam dun handcuff because like he

1372
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 3: never really has fully taken advantage of it. He's like

1373
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,479
Speaker 3: either gotten hurt himself or in the games that he's

1374
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: been like that number one, he hasn't been like super efficient.

1375
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: He was pretty good as a runner like last year seventeen.

1376
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: Last year when no, like yeah it matter, but yeah

1377
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: it was week Week six was when he replaced Cook

1378
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: and he was a massive bust. But then he made

1379
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: up for it in week seventeen with the two touchdown games.

1380
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's he's been mixed when replacing Cook, but

1381
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: I still think he still has that RB one slash

1382
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: two upside when cooks out.

1383
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's been right round three yards after contact

1384
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 3: for his career. It's pretty solid. You know, he's I guess,

1385
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: I guess I'm probably with ADP on him. I think

1386
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 3: I think he's not there's a little more uncertainty this year,

1387
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: but yeah, he still does have that upside. Speaking of upside,

1388
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 3: justin Jefferson and Adam dee Win, these guys were locks

1389
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 3: for most of last year. Jefferson is going to the

1390
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 3: wide receiver eight the win the wide receiver is seventeen.

1391
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 3: How is this ceiling for Jefferson.

1392
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: It's massive. Definitely love his upside. You know, he's going

1393
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: to build off a record setting rookie season. I think

1394
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: he's only going to get better. But when it comes

1395
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: to him and feeling specifically, that concerns me a bit.

1396
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: It's just this offense has a low weekly floor. So

1397
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: I measure dud rates, so percentage of time where these

1398
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: guys finish outside the top sixty, and Jefferson was twenty

1399
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: five percent of the time. Granted he was kind of

1400
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: like getting easy into this offense early in the season,

1401
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: but Feelin was twenty seven percent. And those are pretty

1402
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: high rates for you know, wide receiver one or wide

1403
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: receiver two, and that that goes to you know, they

1404
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: can become a bit run heavy with Dalvin Cook or

1405
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, Kirk Cousins can have a bad game. So

1406
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily their fault, but they had like a

1407
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: lower weekly floor than other wide receivers in this range.

1408
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: So that's the only concern for me. But certainly when

1409
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: when they have a good week, they tend to go

1410
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: off and they give you those spike weeks. So you know,

1411
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: when it comes to these guys, don't expect like consistent

1412
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: week to week production based on this offense. But you know,

1413
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: they're definitely worth their ADP right now. Yeah, I think. Yeah.

1414
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 3: The thing with a guy I with guys on his

1415
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 3: team is that their defense is probably gonna be better than

1416
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 3: it was yeah last year, you know, and so that's

1417
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 3: going to kind of like you said, go back to that.

1418
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 3: You may have weeks where only one goes off as

1419
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 3: where it was last week. The defense was so bad

1420
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: from and it was average even when it improved that

1421
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 3: it was just they had to throw every week. And

1422
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 3: speaking of throwing, IRV Smith a guy we didn't talk about,

1423
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 3: I know, the profits on him.

1424
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: What's there? What where are you going with this prop?

1425
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1426
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: So I love him, and they don't really have a

1427
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 1: number three receiver, so I consider him basically the number

1428
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: three receiver in this offense should be a lot better.

1429
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: With Kyle Rudolph gone, you know, the Skuy's lemon with him.

1430
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: He's entering year three, so curious how high you are.

1431
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're high on him as well, but where

1432
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: are you projecting him for receptions? Because I have him

1433
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: at forty nine and a half right now, he's.

1434
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 3: Telling me fifty, Like wow, it's like a third or

1435
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 3: four time too, like a point where nuts, Yeah, now

1436
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 3: fifty catches. I think it's fair for him. I think

1437
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 3: the ceilings even higher. You know, we finally saw him

1438
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,959
Speaker 3: get into that like eighty percent eighty five percent routes

1439
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 3: run of like a true number one go to tight

1440
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 3: end near a couple of games with Rudolph out. I

1441
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 3: still think, you know, they use them two tight inseets.

1442
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 3: They have to looking at their receiver depth chart, but

1443
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 3: don't think of impact Smith. So yeah, and Smith has

1444
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 3: had big He's had the big games, Like we've seen

1445
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 3: him with the big games volume wise, we've seen him

1446
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 3: with the multi touchdown game. So yeah, Smith, that tight

1447
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 3: end seventeen is way too low considering his role on

1448
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 3: the offense and his talent level.

1449
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 1: It was a small sample size, but last year Rudolph

1450
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 1: was out the last four games, so we got a

1451
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: sneak peak and he was tight on eight over that stretch.

1452
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: So yees, and Tyler Conklin, don't get me wrong, he'll

1453
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: step up in the number two. Tyler Conklin was there

1454
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: and Irv Smith was still the tight end eight over

1455
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: that small sample size.

1456
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know that's and that's kind of the ceiling there.

1457
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 3: It's like and you need that for it, and I

1458
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 3: mean it could be even higher than that. I mean,

1459
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 3: let's say, you know, Deelan's getting older if he misses

1460
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 3: a couple of games, Smith is probably the number two target,

1461
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 3: so like him a lot. Let's go to the South Atlanta.

1462
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 3: Matt Ryan's at QB fifteen. Obviously, no Julio. We have

1463
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley at wide receiver six. That they're over Jefferson

1464
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 3: behind Metcalf. Is that where you're in and ahead of Brown?

1465
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 3: Is that where you're kind of thinking for really or

1466
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:09,839
Speaker 3: you have a difference.

1467
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm the biggest Calvin Ridley fan, so obviously I'm biting there.

1468
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: But it was so much more fun this time last

1469
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: year getting him wide receiver eighteen, betting on him ninety

1470
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: to one to lead the league and receiving yards. So

1471
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: now the Cat's out of the bag. He's he's where

1472
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: he should be now, he's you know, he's gonna be

1473
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 1: the number one receiver with Julio Gunn so you know,

1474
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: I can't hate to take him there. But he is

1475
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: coming off a minor foot surgery, so just something worth

1476
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: monitoring during training camp to make sure that he's gonna

1477
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: be one hundred percent entering the season. But yeah, you

1478
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 1: can't go off really, I think the sky's onm with him,

1479
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: especially with Julia out of the offense. So love really

1480
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: really r DK. I would go DK, honestly, like, yeah,

1481
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: I'd lean DK there.

1482
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably just a little more durable, like you said,

1483
01:09:55,560 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 3: with the foot injury. All right, Mike Davis RB twenty eight.

1484
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 3: Can he be a every week RB, no fantasy RB

1485
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 3: two or even you know, he had a lot of

1486
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 3: RB one week taking over from McAfee last year. They

1487
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 3: have Hobby and Hawkins the rookie probably behind him on

1488
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 3: the depth chart. But it's a new regime. We have

1489
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 3: the man, Arthur Smith, the head coach for the Falcons,

1490
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 3: who essentially is responsible for Derek Henry turning into where

1491
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 3: he is. So I mean there has to be some

1492
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 3: upside for Davis in this offense if he's the feature

1493
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 3: back right.

1494
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and the only way he doesn't hit this ADP

1495
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: of running back twenty eight, which is ridiculous, is due

1496
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: to injury, which every back deals with that downside, or

1497
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: they bring in a vet before week on, like you know,

1498
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,839
Speaker 1: bring back Todd Gurley or Leveon Bell or Adrian Peterson.

1499
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: So I think that's the only concern I have. So

1500
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: if you don't think that's gonna happen, just hammer away

1501
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: at RB twenty eight. I think he's a lock there.

1502
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't have anybody behind him worried about that would

1503
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: potentially take over, like Cordell Patterson might be the main

1504
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: backup or Quadri Olison you even mentioned, and Jamion Hawkins.

1505
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: None of those guys scaring me to take over. I

1506
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: think he looked good enough last year where we can

1507
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: trust him to like hold off those guys. The only

1508
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: concern is if they bring in a vet. So right

1509
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: now I'm just loading up at this ADP.

1510
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 3: I told you that like three years ago that out

1511
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 3: of Todd Gurley, Le'Veon Bell, and Adrian Peterson, that Adrian

1512
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 3: Peterson might be the best running back of that bunch

1513
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one.

1514
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: I would be.

1515
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 3: Anyway, because like I've given I've you know, given Ap

1516
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 3: a hard time in the past.

1517
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,520
Speaker 1: But I mean I am like he's.

1518
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 3: Kind of kept his his conditioning and like he's I

1519
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 3: would say he's probably the best year runner right now

1520
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 3: out of all those guys still at his age. Let's go,

1521
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 3: Let's go to the prop for Atlanta.

1522
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: Let's see the prop is Kyle Pitt's total receiving yards

1523
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: this year. I got it at seven eighty. Where are

1524
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: you at?

1525
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 3: I'm at seven hundred, so a little lower, but I

1526
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 3: mean it's I guess what it's like four or five

1527
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 3: yards a game, so not not too not too much

1528
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 3: buch of different, you know.

1529
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: I just you know, this is a new team.

1530
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 3: There's a new there's I mean, a new regime at coach,

1531
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 3: so right, I don't the Falcons have been notoriously passed

1532
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 3: heavy in the past. I mean it's been uh if

1533
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 3: the was six eighty four and twenty nineteen, another six

1534
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 3: thirty three attempts last year, and then now you have

1535
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith. The Titans have been you know, bottom five,

1536
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 3: bottom three in past attempts. So it's just I just

1537
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 3: I am projecting a Wittle. I'm not as going a

1538
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 3: little more conservative when it comes to the volume. I

1539
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 3: think that's the only thing there. And they still will

1540
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: have you know, Hayden Hurst, who I mean, he's really

1541
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 3: all I can do is catch, So you got it,

1542
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1543
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: You're not gonna use him as a blocker either, So.

1544
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 3: I I I'm a little conservative, but the sky's the

1545
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 3: limit for for this guy.

1546
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: Uh Pits.

1547
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 3: We probably will be talking about in like the Kittle

1548
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 3: you know range sooner than later.

1549
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean when it comes to tight ends,

1550
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: it's always tough to project them as a rookie. It

1551
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: usually takes the tight end you know, two to even

1552
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: three years. Sometimes hit people are definitely being maybe too optimistic.

1553
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 1: I think you would agree that he's one of the

1554
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: most talented tight ends we've ever seen. But how do

1555
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: you factor into historical you know, trends for like a

1556
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: rookie tight end entering league and where does he fit

1557
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 1: on that curve? Like is that part of your process

1558
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to yeah, definitely, you know low so, Yeah,

1559
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's I don't think it's that.

1560
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 3: I just I think it's more to do with the falcons.

1561
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 3: Just you know, I don't know if they'll pass anywhere

1562
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 3: near the same amount. I think that's I don't think

1563
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 3: it's Kyle Pitts like, but like, for example, I'll give

1564
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 3: you George Kittle on a pretty pass heavy Niners team

1565
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen because that was before they you know,

1566
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,719
Speaker 3: they got the good defense. His rookie year, sixty three targets,

1567
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 3: forty three catches, five hundred and fifteen yards, twelve yards

1568
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 3: per catch, two touchdowns, So about three catches for thirty

1569
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 3: four yards per game.

1570
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: Like I'm projecting over that for Pits.

1571
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 3: But like that's kind of the talent level, you know

1572
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like that's a good comparable.

1573
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: So it's it is, it is. It's just tough for

1574
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: rookie titands.

1575
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 3: Like that's why I said for Dynasty, you know, we

1576
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 3: talked about it on the AFC pod, Hunter Henry was

1577
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 3: my pick as a target because I just don't do

1578
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 3: that in Dynasty where it's like I'm targeting all these

1579
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: kind of like young tight ends that may or may

1580
01:13:59,400 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 3: not make it.

1581
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: Now Pitt's obviously he's a lock. He's gonna make it.

1582
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 3: But in general, I just think that we as a

1583
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 3: community tend to be a little too optimistic about tight ends,

1584
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 3: Like it's really just gonna be the same guys, and

1585
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 3: like one or two we're gonna enter every year, that

1586
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 3: like change that hierarchy. So yeah, I mean we're in

1587
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: the same we're in the sevens. It's just you have

1588
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 3: him about four to five yards.

1589
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: So you're like, are you taking Mark Andrews and TG

1590
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: Hawkinson above him? Then then Kyle Pitts. Is that kind

1591
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: of right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1592
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 3: I just think that's fair given the like you mentioned

1593
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 3: the aging curve of a tight end. I think year two,

1594
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 3: year three, that's when you start see a thousand yard

1595
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 3: seasons yep, and things like that. Let's go to the

1596
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers McCaffrey running back one. You're taking him at

1597
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 3: running back one. I know if I was doing one

1598
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 3: hundred drafts, I'd get some cook and some some Henry

1599
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 3: for sure, and there so you don't have to spend

1600
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 3: really any time on that.

1601
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: Here's what's interesting.

1602
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 3: Darnold's there at quarterback more as the wide receiver twenty

1603
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 3: four Anderson's wide receiver thirty six.

1604
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: Is that too much of a split, Yes, Because, like

1605
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: I said, I love being ahead of ADP on Derek

1606
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: Kenner every year, and the same goes with the Robbie

1607
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: and Robby Anderson. I always have to be higher than ADP.

1608
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: So I'm absolutely taking him at wide receiver thirty six.

1609
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: I mean last year he was basically the alpha. I mean,

1610
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: Joe Brady comes from the Sean Payton coaching tree, and

1611
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: he had Robbie Anderson be the X receiver. I thought

1612
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: it would be Dj Moore. So it gave Robby Anderson

1613
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: just way more consistency week to week. They expanded his

1614
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: route tree. He's more of a complete receiver the Mike

1615
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: Thomas roll So I love him going into the season.

1616
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: He already has that chemistry with Sam Darnold. So yeah,

1617
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: I love getting Robberie Anderson. As I say every year

1618
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: at ADP. Yeah, I mean I think he's a steal

1619
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: right now.

1620
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a guy that he was like

1621
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 3: in the running for the league lead in receiving for

1622
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,520
Speaker 3: a lot of the year. He ended up finishing what fifteenth,

1623
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 3: but like, you're getting the fifteenth leading, not even the

1624
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 3: thirteenth leating wide receiver because you have a couple of

1625
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 3: tight ends here. So the thirteenth leating wide receiver in

1626
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 3: yards and you're getting him at thirty six, Like, I know,

1627
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 3: he had three touchdowns.

1628
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: I get it.

1629
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 3: I mean that may not change because you know the

1630
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 3: quarterback situation. But uh, Sam Donald to Robbie Anderson, that

1631
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 3: was money even in New York. That's why that's why

1632
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 3: we're sitting here talking about Robby Anderson. That's why he

1633
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 3: has a career because of that connection there. So I

1634
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 3: love him. Uh And but but let's go right to

1635
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 3: the prop. We don't have to talk about Dan Arnold,

1636
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 3: who oh set it up and made played himself into

1637
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 3: a new contract as I thought he would with j

1638
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 3: Carter and in probably rendering Thomas irrelevant. So let's just

1639
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 3: get right instead the prop for Sam Donald.

1640
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah so Sam Donald total passing touchdowns over under twenty

1641
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: one and a half.

1642
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 3: Oh now, oh my god, another point five.

1643
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: Well it's really point six. I haven't at twenty point

1644
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 1: nine point nine.

1645
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm going under like you could give me

1646
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 3: if you loaded it, if you lowered it by like

1647
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 3: a like a touchdown out or probably loaded it by

1648
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 3: a touchdown, because I I don't want to be high

1649
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 3: on Sam Donald.

1650
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: I think a preposterous and absurd.

1651
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 3: That like he and I complained about Denver with this,

1652
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 3: with the whole case Keenum thing, and and stop trying

1653
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,440
Speaker 3: to pump to your fan base that these trash quarterbacks

1654
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 3: are saviors like it has you'll get lucky once in

1655
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 3: a blue and you need a really like a really

1656
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 3: good system in place, like because Ryan, like Ryan Tannehill

1657
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 3: was like the one guy who comes to mind. It's like, Okay,

1658
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 3: he wasn't good, but yeah, even he had Adam Gate,

1659
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 3: so that was like a kind of like I get it,

1660
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 3: I get it, Like that's why everyone's doing it. But

1661
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 3: it's like Sam Donald wasn't even Ryan Tanner here, Like

1662
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 3: Sam Donald was like every stack category, whether you look

1663
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 3: at his draft class, whether you look at his comparison

1664
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 3: to the other thirty star thirty one starters, he's bottom.

1665
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 3: You know, he's in the bottom court court tile, you know,

1666
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 3: in bottom twenty five per and everything.

1667
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: There's no stat I could point to to convince you otherwise.

1668
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: But just just having Robby Anderson, DJ Moore, potentially Terrence

1669
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: Marshall as his third receiver, and Christian McCaffrey the game's

1670
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: best receiving back, he just has so much talent around him,

1671
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: like he just needs to improve a little bit. And

1672
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: I agree that I don't expect a Ryan Tannehill post

1673
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: Adam Gase kind of breakout, but there's potential there. So

1674
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: it's like, it's also much Sam Darnold that we should target,

1675
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 1: but we need him to be good for Robbie Anderson,

1676
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: DJ Moore and again going back to the wide receivers,

1677
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: we're not knocking Dj Moore like he's receivers, but his

1678
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: his touching touchdown upside is limited. So this is why

1679
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: I wanted your opinion on this touchdown problem because it

1680
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: kind of dictates how many fat fantasy relevant targets we

1681
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: can have in this offense. And I'm afraid it's only

1682
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: two or three because, like you said, we can only

1683
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: expect so much from Sam Darminal. Is p J Walker

1684
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: still there? Yes, I think that's probably a better quarterback.

1685
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,879
Speaker 1: Went on to the New Orleans Saint XFL legend.

1686
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I'm saying this straight faced though you can't

1687
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 3: see me, you guys out there.

1688
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I'm we Washington of XFL. I'm yeah.

1689
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, that that twenty one projection maybe ten if

1690
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 3: Darna you know, he loses his job, which could happen.

1691
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara are before So you like Kamara behind Henry

1692
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 3: and Cook.

1693
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: Yes, I wouldn't say I like Kamara like one of

1694
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 1: the most talented running backs in the game, But we

1695
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna play quarterback, and I think it

1696
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: will matter just because of that. We had that four

1697
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 1: game stretch last year when Taysom Hill's quarterback and Alvin

1698
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 1: Kamara averaged two point five receptions, thirteen or standing yards

1699
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: and zero touchdowns. Granted one of those games was then

1700
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 1: Kendall Hilton in Denver, So even if you throw that away,

1701
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: it's still scary because if you think about Taysom Hill's

1702
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,799
Speaker 1: gonna pull it down and run with it as opposed

1703
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: to targeting Kamara. I think Sean Paynon is way too

1704
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: smart to let that be the offense heading into the season.

1705
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: I think they'll have a better plan in the event

1706
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: that Taysom Hill potentially overtakes Jameis Winston as quarterbacks. So

1707
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: it just gives me some pause at Kamara, but I

1708
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: would certainly still take him, you know, like QB five,

1709
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: I think I think I would, yeah, definitely take him

1710
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: over Barkley, But just just the uncertainty at quarterback is

1711
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: the only concern to have with Kamara. Where's the talent?

1712
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: You know, I still think he's you know, top three,

1713
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: top three four back in the league.

1714
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could say taking him over anyone too, Mike,

1715
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 3: he's another guy with Henry.

1716
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,879
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't I don't really like it's.

1717
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 3: Just for people out there, like I think I would

1718
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 3: rank I would rank them McCaffrey, Henry, Camara, Cook fourth.

1719
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 3: I just I think the whole thing with the with

1720
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 3: last year with the Taysom Hill was number one, you had,

1721
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 3: you had the the Kenda Hinton game, number two, you

1722
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 3: had the UH. You're taking one of your best UH

1723
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 3: wide receivers, your best special teams players, and you're starting

1724
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 3: in a quarterback. Of course, there's not like a plan to.

1725
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, like like it's gonna

1726
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: be totally different.

1727
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 3: I do think Taysoon Hill will make more starts. But

1728
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 3: I think like, like we saw the upside, We've seen

1729
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 3: it over and over album Kamara is one of the

1730
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 3: best running backs really of all time, Like wean this.

1731
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: So it's like I don't like.

1732
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 3: Or three really a three game sample size where you

1733
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 3: had this guy who's like your number three receiver and

1734
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 3: top special team player, like becoming the quarterback. I'm not

1735
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 3: putting any weight into that sample. I think it's I

1736
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 3: think Kamara is a no brainer pick. I think the

1737
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 3: biggest concern is, like anything, it's it's health. Michael Thomas

1738
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 3: are a wide receiver nine, trac On Smith's wide receiver

1739
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 3: ninety seven.

1740
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: What's going on there? Well, Michael Thomas, he played really well.

1741
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill the line up, I'm less worried about him,

1742
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 1: But the you know, wide receiver nine, that seems a

1743
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: bit rich. I'm not gonna fault anybody that takes them there.

1744
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 1: I took him in the scott Fish Bowl. He fell

1745
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: to me, no problem with that. But I think tray

1746
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 1: Kwon Smith has a ton of upside, so I think

1747
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: he's a great late round flyer, especially if Jameis Winston

1748
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: takes over his story. I'm after your explanation why you

1749
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: think Taysom Hill is gonna start more games? But when

1750
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston's in there, I think you know it's gonna expand.

1751
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: A guy like tray Kwan Smith's route tree quite a bit.

1752
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: He's a vertical runner, so I think he has some

1753
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: sneaky upside. And you know that they lost Male Sanders

1754
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 1: and Jared Cook, and targets are wide open this offense.

1755
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: And I think tray Quan Smith is the guy that's

1756
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna step in. Now. If someone like you projects Taysom

1757
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: Hill start ten plus games, I'm a little less interested

1758
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: in tray Kuon. But again, this is this is a guy.

1759
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: If you're doing best ball drafts, I stack tray Quan

1760
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: Smith with Jamis Winston. I think it's a high upside stack.

1761
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of uncertainty there, but I think

1762
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 1: the upside is there.

1763
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Trey Kwonder and and I love Troutman

1764
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 3: at tight end twenty five.

1765
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: Again, they're just targets to be had. But with going

1766
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: to the prop. Uh So for the prop, I have

1767
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston total passing yards, which is essentially total games played.

1768
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: So I have it at two thousand, five hundred.

1769
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going I'm going I got two thousand even

1770
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 3: this will all happen in the span of four games.

1771
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 3: He'll throw five for five hundred yards each game and

1772
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 3: Taysom Hill start together. Now, No, I think I think

1773
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 3: Sean Payton is just doing his Jameis Winston thing the

1774
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 3: same way he did the Teddy Ridge arter thing.

1775
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: I guess I think he.

1776
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 3: I think he really, I think in his heart of arts,

1777
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 3: he wants to start Taysom Hill. Now does everyone agree

1778
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 3: with him? Probably not, so he's got to give Jamis

1779
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 3: the shot. But I think it was pretty self I

1780
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 3: think it was pretty revealing that the guy who has

1781
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 3: been a full time starter in this league his entire career,

1782
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 3: when the opportunity arose to start him, they put him

1783
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 3: in for that one game. Because He'll remember, Hill was

1784
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 3: in the game plan and special teams and at receiver,

1785
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 3: so he's you know, he's got a role already. You

1786
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 3: can't just now you put him a quarterback. Now you're

1787
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 3: taking away from other parts of the game. Point So

1788
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 3: Winston comes in and then he's not heard from a

1789
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 3: game like that. To me, that's more revealing than any

1790
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 3: any offseason projection, any camp, training camp story, any first rep,

1791
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 3: second rep. This that, like, until I see Jamis on

1792
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 3: that field for more than half the games, I'm not

1793
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 3: gonna believe it.

1794
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: I think I think it's gonna be tasting. So you're

1795
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: projecting him around like seven and a half game started?

1796
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 3: Is that what you got yeah, yeah, yeah, like it's yeah,

1797
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 3: it's not like you know, and Taysom has injury risk.

1798
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 3: Obviously he's older and he's gonna take some hits. But

1799
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 3: I just don't Again, it's this just comes down to

1800
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 3: like the organizational philosophy versus like what we think.

1801
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 1: It's like, I like jamis too. I don't, I can't.

1802
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 3: I do get why you may start Taysom because I

1803
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 3: still think James would be more turnover prone to him.

1804
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 3: But I taste this all about what Sean Payton thinks,

1805
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 3: and I think he likes says like.

1806
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: He loves Taysom. That's his man.

1807
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 3: Like he's like this is like bigger than like John

1808
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 3: Elway brought Passwireler Love, Like this is my that he loves.

1809
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: This is his man crushes, man crushes.

1810
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 3: Let's go to Tampa Ronald Jones right about twenty nine

1811
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 3: for Nett thirty one? Is Jones going too high? It

1812
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 3: should he be going over for Anette period?

1813
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jones is definitely going too high. I mean

1814
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: just when it comes to this backfield, I'm, you know,

1815
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: a bit cautious because who knows how it's gonna turn

1816
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: out with Jio Bernard Now they have a legit pass

1817
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: catching back there.

1818
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 3: But am I aka Dari God, Like, that's take the

1819
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 3: Dari roll right right?

1820
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: Am I crazy for thinking Leonard Fournette is worth it

1821
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: at like I got him in the Scott Fish ball

1822
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: at like running back thirty nine, Like I'm not high

1823
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: on him, but just I think the potential is there

1824
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: where you know, when Ronald Jones is on the field,

1825
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: it usually indicates they're going to run the ball. If

1826
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: Gio Bernard's on the field, you know it's probably a

1827
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: pass play. I think Leonard Fournette gives the defense something

1828
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: to think about where they don't know if it's running pass.

1829
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, you know, there's a chance we see

1830
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: playoff Lenny for the entire regular season. I think the

1831
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 1: chances are low, obviously, but I think you know, he's

1832
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: worth a gamble. And you know they're acquired a midseason

1833
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: last year, so it wasn't until the playoffs that he

1834
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: broke out. So I think there's still some potential there

1835
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: with Leonard Fournette. If I if I were to pick

1836
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: any back from this back field, he seems like the

1837
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: obvious choice.

1838
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Burnette is like Garrett Blunt and Jones is

1839
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 3: like Mike GILLISLEI at this point, it's.

1840
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 1: Like except Burnett is gonna catch more balls. But like, yeah,

1841
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: I think Brady likes Fournette more. I think for remember,

1842
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,480
Speaker 1: for Nette's too matters, right, That's all that matters.

1843
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 3: Right, And for Neette's not that old, and he was

1844
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 3: a guy that we used to take top ten in fantasy.

1845
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 3: Jones was like we were like going on a limb

1846
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 3: for taking him even in the top twenty four and

1847
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 3: in which he usually doesn't like pay off anyway. Uh,

1848
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 3: you know, Fournette got released from the Jaguars, the worst

1849
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 3: team ever because it's like, you fine, it was Jones

1850
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 3: got like benched by like like in his rookiear, Like,

1851
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 3: Jones just has too a lot of volativity and if

1852
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 3: he doesn't hit like eighty yard runs, he's probably not

1853
01:26:58,640 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 3: catching any balls.

1854
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think this.

1855
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 3: I think it's absurd that he's going ahead of four Nette.

1856
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 3: I think like we forgot that Fournette was like considered

1857
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 3: a really good running back, you know, and he he

1858
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 3: he showed it again the minute he had a chance

1859
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 3: in a good offense. So Brady is he his top

1860
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 3: ten quarterbacks? Tho he's doing at QB nine.

1861
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brady's a top ten quarterback. I mean this offense

1862
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: is just loaded. Look at the receivers, look at the

1863
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 1: tight ends. I'm thinking the fact that he had that

1864
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: kind of season after being in the same offense for

1865
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: two decades, to have that kind of season with you know,

1866
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: a limited offseason, he's going to be even better this year.

1867
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 1: We could see the same thing we saw with Peyton Manning.

1868
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: Remember he was with the Colts forever and then he

1869
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 1: went to Denver. He had the really good first year.

1870
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: He threw for forty seven hundred passing yards and thirty

1871
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, and we're like, wow, that was amazing, and

1872
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: then the next season he threw for fifty five hundred

1873
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: yards and fifty five touchdowns. We could see something like

1874
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: that happen. The only thing that I think would prevent

1875
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 1: that is this Tampa Bay defense is elite, So it's

1876
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 1: gonna prevent you know, shootouts where they need to put

1877
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 1: up thirty five forty points to keep up the defense.

1878
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: Being good is kind of an issue with Brady where

1879
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: it kind of limits his upside a bit. But I think, yeah,

1880
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: he just has like the highest ceiling in this offense.

1881
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: Because he's never it's been a while since he's been

1882
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: surrounded by so many weapons like this.

1883
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess that's the only argument for

1884
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 3: Jones is like, if the defense is good, then that

1885
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 3: number two running back.

1886
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: You know, it gets to just sometime. I'm just gonna say, no,

1887
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not high on Jones.

1888
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of give, you know, give the outcomes,

1889
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 3: you know, for best ball and roster construction. Gronk get

1890
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 3: tight in eleven worries me. You know, Howard's at twenty three,

1891
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 3: brates at thirty nine. I just remember how they use

1892
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 3: Gronk down a stretch. It was like Brad is the

1893
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 3: number one tight end. Now you have brat n Howard here.

1894
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I just think it just worries me that

1895
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 3: Gronk is not gonna be that every week consistent guy

1896
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 3: and you're drafting him as a top twelve.

1897
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: But what do you where are you on bron Yeah, say,

1898
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 1: I'm in the same boat with you. I mean, if

1899
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: we remember last year, OJ Howard got off to that

1900
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 1: great start. After four games, OJ Howard was a tight

1901
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: end sixteen, Gronk was tiny ened thirty eight, and we

1902
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: were joking like he came out of retirement to block

1903
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,600
Speaker 1: for Brady. What's this? Yeah, look up, Yeah, the he

1904
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 1: broke out after Howard went down. So I agree now

1905
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,759
Speaker 1: that Howard's back in the mix, all three titands are healthy.

1906
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm kind of fading all of them. You kind of

1907
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: need one of them to miss time to pay attention

1908
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 1: just the the route tree that the route share is

1909
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: just you know too scout right now. So I'm passing

1910
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: on all three right now? All right, what's our prop

1911
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 1: for Tampa Tampa Bay. Let's see, Oh, Antonio Brown total

1912
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 1: receiving yards this year over under seven and thirty five.

1913
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 3: I'm seven to fifty so yeah, another like half yard figure.

1914
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 3: I got full yard per game. But yeah, I think

1915
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 3: that's the range. I think you got to expect some

1916
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 3: shenanigans with him. You gotta expect maybe him to get hurt.

1917
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 3: Where's his motivation after getting that ring? But at the

1918
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 3: same time, I'm still a really good receiver. He's not.

1919
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 3: He's not gonna get double covered in his so uh yeah,

1920
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 3: So I am about you know about you know, in

1921
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 3: the forty forty something yard pre game range, you know,

1922
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 3: just because they have so many weapons. Mike Evans is

1923
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 3: the thirteen, uh in a ADP, god Win the sixteen

1924
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 3: and Brown the forty two? Is that kind of where

1925
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 3: you're at with these guys?

1926
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And like when it comes to Brown, he

1927
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 1: has room to grow in this offense because the routes

1928
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 1: run per dropback was around sixty five percent, So you know,

1929
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 1: if you project them for eighty ninety, this guy's limning

1930
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: with him. But like, do you think that, like Scottie

1931
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: Miller and Tyler Johnson are gonna chip in? Or was

1932
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 1: that because they acquired Antonio Brown mid season they didn't

1933
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 1: trust him to be eighty ninety percent? Like we are

1934
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 1: you projecting like his routes run percentage when he's healthy, right?

1935
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 1: I think it run around sixty round the same. I

1936
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:47,440
Speaker 1: think it's because like this is the twilight of his career. Arians.

1937
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: I think Arians is kind of used to managing these veterans.

1938
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 3: I mean that's why I think you saw you know, what,

1939
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 3: you know, splits between the tight ends, you know, splits

1940
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 3: between the running backs, you know even and you know,

1941
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 3: like he's got to manage these guys. And I think

1942
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 3: Milleran and Johnson are talented enough that there are certain

1943
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 3: because I remember Tom Brady threw to Antonio Brown as

1944
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 3: like his like James White almost like that's that's what

1945
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,839
Speaker 3: Antonio Brown was, and Brady it was like his efficient

1946
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 3: guy that's gonna be opened underneath. Whereas like Miller and Johnson,

1947
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 3: those guys can go deep. You know, those guys can

1948
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 3: go downfield. So I got an area of Godwin and

1949
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 3: they're gonna have tight ends and you know what I mean.

1950
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 3: So it's just like, I think Brown's role is going

1951
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 3: to actually be very similar, and it could even decrease

1952
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 3: because like remember in the postseason, I know he was

1953
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 3: a little banged up, but like you just you don't

1954
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 3: need him every week to be Antonio Brown. Its just

1955
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 3: it's just a embarrassment of riches in Tampa really, which

1956
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 3: is amazing. So yeah, we're in the same range though.

1957
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 3: I think he's a nice pick in that in the forties,

1958
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 3: but probably little better in PPR because Brady's throwing him underneath. Arizona,

1959
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 3: Chase Edmonds is the twenty eight and and Connor's the

1960
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 3: thirty six at running back. I was high on Edmonds

1961
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 3: and then they signed Connor and then I was I

1962
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 3: was under them. I was projecting Connor for more work,

1963
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 3: but he doesn't look like the consensus really agrees with me.

1964
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 1: Oh, you're projecting Connor for more work, like when they're

1965
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 1: both healthy obviously, Oh yeah, I'm in a similar range,

1966
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 1: But like, when is Connor going to be healthy? He

1967
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 1: played a full season's coming off foot surgery, so I

1968
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,600
Speaker 1: think Edmunds has that built in the upside already and

1969
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 1: he's more likely to hit it. But I'm with you,

1970
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 1: I think both are kind of like cheap. Their ADP

1971
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: is a little bit high, so I target both. I

1972
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: mix a match because yeah, when Connor's healthy, I think

1973
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: he's going to have more of a workload. But when

1974
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: it comes to Chase Edmunds, I was I'm a little

1975
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: bit worried about Rondell Moore kind of siphoning away some

1976
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 1: targets because he's the kind of guy you want to

1977
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 1: put the ball in his hands and he has that

1978
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 1: make you distability. So I think that could limit Chase

1979
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: Edmunds receiving selling, and that's we kind of need that

1980
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: with Edmunds when Connor's healthy. So that's why I'm kind

1981
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 1: of shying away from Edmunds as well. The Connor signing

1982
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 1: obviously hurt his value, but in the end, I think

1983
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna miss a few games and Edmunds is going

1984
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,799
Speaker 1: to have that RB two upside in a few games.

1985
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: So I think both guys are definitely worth targeting at ADP.

1986
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 3: Hopkins and the wide receiver four. Yeah, probably make a

1987
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 3: case for him anywhere in the top four. AJ Green

1988
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 3: is sixty three, Christian Kirk is sixty four, and More

1989
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 3: is seventy nine.

1990
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on those three aps. I think More is

1991
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 1: going to be exciting. I wouldn't really target him fantasy.

1992
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to see enough targets necessarily

1993
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: or you know, touchdown potential to be fantasy relevant, but

1994
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,759
Speaker 1: he'll just be more a good real life player to watch.

1995
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna be exciting. It's hard to like AJ Green,

1996
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 1: but he's so cheap that he might be worth a

1997
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 1: fire here and there. He was just so inefficient last year.

1998
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: It's hard to project the guy at his age to

1999
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: bounce back, but certainly there's potential there. Same thing with

2000
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. He's probably gonna play more in the slot,

2001
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 1: which is more of his natural position, so he might

2002
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 1: finally break out. But there's just so many targets to

2003
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 1: go around that. You know, DeAndre Hopkins is going to

2004
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 1: get most of them. I think he's really the only

2005
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 1: guy that you need to target at ADP. Where's these

2006
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: other guys? They'll probably need one of them to go

2007
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 1: down for the other two to step up. So I'm

2008
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 1: a little as less interested in these ancillary receivers.

2009
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I would probably just fade Green and

2010
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 3: target Kirk and Moore because I think they're the better

2011
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 3: players at this point. I mean, Aj Green he's that

2012
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 3: out a year. You know, he missed that year he

2013
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 3: had a fifty nine point seven catch rate and a

2014
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 3: nine point zero yard per target, and then he comes

2015
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 3: back and he has a forty five two percent catch

2016
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 3: right and a five point zero yard per target with

2017
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 3: a better quarterback. So I mean, yeah, it's not looking

2018
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:39,679
Speaker 3: great for aj Aj Green. Here, what's our prop for Arizona?

2019
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 1: So let's go with Kyler Murray's rushing yards because I

2020
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: think we saw him definitely hit his ceiling there last year. Yeah,

2021
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 1: but he admitted that he was running a bit more

2022
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: because of the shoulder injury, So like, how do you

2023
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: factor things like that in when it comes to rushing projections?

2024
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 1: I have him at seven hundred rushing yards.

2025
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm am at seven to twenty five, so right

2026
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 3: in the same rage. Maybe a yard we areding to

2027
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 3: have off per per week, per game. I think again,

2028
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 3: you gotta look at the scrambles, and he was a

2029
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 3: little higher once he started getting hurt. But he's still

2030
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 3: one of the you know, he's still scrambles more than

2031
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 3: a lot of quarterbacks in this league. And he also

2032
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 3: gets his fair share of design runs. And I think

2033
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 3: given that backfield, but Edmonds and Connor Edmonds more of

2034
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 3: a receiver. Connor struggles to stay healthy. He's still going

2035
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 3: to get his diet of those. So, you know, kind

2036
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 3: of a split of what we saw the last his

2037
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 3: first two years of his career, you know, kind of

2038
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 3: splitting it down the middle. Not as much as last year,

2039
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 3: but I still a little probably still a little more

2040
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 3: than a rookie year. Yeah, I'm all right, we're in

2041
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 3: the same range. Like I said, I have a run

2042
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 3: around seven hundred yep rams. Matthew Stafford takes over. He's

2043
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 3: a QB seventeen or sixteen, and then you know, I

2044
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 3: think that's probably fair. I think, you know, not going

2045
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 3: to run a ton, but some nice weapons, Sean McVay,

2046
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 3: A little bit of upside there, should have some good weeks,

2047
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 3: good basketball pick. What are you doing with Woods and

2048
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 3: Cup at nineteen and twenty one?

2049
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 1: Do you like them? At at adp at a two

2050
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 1: high too? Well, it's tough to project this passing him

2051
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 1: because it's probably gonna be a bit different, right, I

2052
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 1: mean with Stafford there and just reading the tea leaves,

2053
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: you know they brought in DeShawn Jackson, they drafted to

2054
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 1: to at Well in the second round. Was kind of

2055
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: weird pick. But you know they're gonna have more of

2056
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,799
Speaker 1: a vertical element to the playbook because you know, McVeigh

2057
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 1: trusts Stafford to throw deep ball. So you know, these

2058
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 1: guys might not see the same week to week consistency

2059
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: that we saw with golf. I mean, they were very

2060
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: easy to project every week. Just give them both five

2061
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: and a half catches, eighty yards blah blah blah. So

2062
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 1: like they're probably not gonna have that consistency. But I

2063
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 1: think Stafford does help their touch On upside, I think

2064
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a better offense, higher scoring, so it

2065
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of counter balances there. But I think we'll see

2066
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 1: some of these you know, either like DeShawn Jackson or

2067
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,600
Speaker 1: even like Van Jefferson or two to at well not

2068
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 1: as high on him. Those guys might pop on certain weeks,

2069
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 1: whereas we didn't really see that before in Jared Goff offense.

2070
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: So I think they're they're gonna be at the end

2071
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 1: of the year probably worth it, but just have a

2072
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 1: little less consistency week to week. Yeah, I'm not.

2073
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:12,759
Speaker 3: I'm not really worried about them at all, to be honest,

2074
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 3: Like I think he's a better quarterback, yeah, even though

2075
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 3: I mean even consistency wise, because I think I think

2076
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 3: this it's all about the design of the offense, Like

2077
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 3: Kupp and Woods were always designed to get open based

2078
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 3: on that other like receiver kind of running clear outs

2079
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 3: like that's why like Watkins struggled. Cooks had that like

2080
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 3: kind of you know, he had times where he wouldn't

2081
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 3: see about of volume. That's gonna be the Jackson slash

2082
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 3: at Well role. Josh Renalds was in that role. But

2083
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 3: I think that the offense is design because it's all

2084
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 3: about spacing and like you know routes to you know,

2085
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 3: different route combinations, like it's designed to get Woods in

2086
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 3: cup and space and I think that I think that continues,

2087
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 3: so I actually think they it'll be it will work

2088
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 3: just as well because you're having better players at at

2089
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 3: quarterback and at that clear out spot than you had

2090
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 3: at each last year.

2091
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, those two. Out of those two, though, who do

2092
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 1: you favor? I'm big on Robert Was. I think out

2093
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 1: of those two, I think Robert Woods is the safest bet.

2094
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Woods just because of what he's shown.

2095
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 3: But I mean I think they're they're they're pretty much equal.

2096
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 3: At just ween Woods because he's had a little more production.

2097
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 3: But I think they're both really good. I don't if

2098
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 3: you took if you told me you're taking a couple

2099
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 3: of a way, that wouldn't necessarily bolt you. But I

2100
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 3: think Cup has a little bit of a lower floor

2101
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 3: because he's, you know, he's had the weird things with

2102
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,799
Speaker 3: the routes run at times and things like that. Higby

2103
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 3: at tight end thirteen, what do you think it at?

2104
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like it, you know, I think he has

2105
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 1: an upgrade at quarterback. I think Stafford's a significant upgrade

2106
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 1: over goth And then Gerald Everett's departure is huge. That's

2107
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 1: kind of why we didn't like him last year as

2108
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: Everett was siphoning a lot of routes run targets, Whereas

2109
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, the backups Bryson Hopkins and Jacob Harris are

2110
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 1: both getting some hype. I mean one of those or

2111
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 1: both of them are going to kind of absorb some

2112
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: of the Gerald Everett role. But I think we're gonna

2113
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 1: see potentially the end of twenty nineteen Tyler Higby, Like

2114
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 1: he has that upside we've seen, so I think just

2115
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 1: based on that in that range at titand honestly, you're

2116
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 1: just taking a flutter anyway if you're in a one

2117
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 1: tight end league, like if he doesn't pan out, you

2118
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 1: drop him, pick up another guy, it doesn't matter. So

2119
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 1: I think he's worth investing, you know, at tight end thirteen.

2120
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair place to take him. Yeah,

2121
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 1: I gotta definitely take him over Gronk.

2122
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 3: I think he has huge, much more upside at this

2123
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 3: point in his career, and I would I like him

2124
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 3: over everybody. I think I like him as high as

2125
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 3: ten after Logan Thomas because Gaseiki I think, you know,

2126
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 3: with more competition for targets, I think that could go

2127
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 3: either way. Gronk I think will continue to kind of

2128
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 3: be in a platoon role. And then you have Hunter,

2129
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 3: Henry and John Smith who could pop. And I like,

2130
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 3: you know, especially Henriette at his you know, for his upside,

2131
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 3: I think he'd be the number one. But you're still

2132
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 3: talking about a two tight end offense with Higby. Maybe

2133
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 3: out of that finally, may you might see Hopkins just

2134
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 3: take overs a good amount of the effort role, but

2135
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 3: he might not. Whereas we know, Henry and Smith are

2136
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 3: gonna share the field because they got huge contracts. So yeah,

2137
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 3: I like Higby's high as tight end number ten. Give

2138
01:39:57,479 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 3: us the prop for the Rams.

2139
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 1: Uh So the prop for the Rams is cam Akers

2140
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 1: total rushing and receiving touchdowns over under ten and a half.

2141
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 1: Another one.

2142
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:09,719
Speaker 3: I got it at ten point.

2143
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: Oh so.

2144
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 3: We're under this might be a record. You know me,

2145
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 3: I'm always on the under. I said this on our

2146
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 3: NBA NBA he checked our live show that you know.

2147
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 3: Matt mor made a comment like, Chris, You're always on

2148
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 3: these unders, And I'm because I feel like the books

2149
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 3: take their real projection and then they add a point

2150
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 3: five to it, and so I'm always trying to get

2151
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:30,759
Speaker 3: under that, you know what I mean, Because I feel

2152
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 3: like you have it.

2153
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 1: I feel like you have it at like ten point

2154
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: three and you just put it at ten point five

2155
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:34,799
Speaker 1: or something.

2156
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 3: But no, actually okay, okay, yeah, okay, so yeah, no, no,

2157
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 3: it's a good line. I'll go on the under because

2158
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 3: you know, running backs get hurt, and I just I

2159
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 3: think you always have to remember that there's gonna be

2160
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 3: some guys that we're not even projecting that are going

2161
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 3: to you know, kind of play, you know, depending on

2162
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 3: who gets hurt and who doesn't.

2163
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I like, but yeah, I'm in that range,

2164
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: which is still high.

2165
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,759
Speaker 3: I mean ten anytime you're talking about double digit touchdowns

2166
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 3: for a back, it's high. But Akers did the backfield.

2167
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 3: They got rid of Brown. So the Henderson's here, he's

2168
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 3: at RB forty eight. I think he's you know, he's

2169
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 3: the handcuff but nothing more. Uh and so yeah, I

2170
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 3: think it was thee a whole lot of camp makers

2171
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 3: on a field, passing, running and everything in between. Uh,

2172
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 3: let's go finish up quick. Here we got two more

2173
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 3: teams Seattle Chris Carson at RB twenty. I like that

2174
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 3: a little bit. Any anything with on that backfield with

2175
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 3: Rashad Penny.

2176
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Carson. I say this every year.

2177
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 1: I feel like he's the safest bet at the end

2178
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 1: of the RB two tier. Oh yeah. Some of these

2179
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,600
Speaker 1: guys like Miles Sanders, Dave Montgomery, they obviously have upside.

2180
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 1: We do like them as a talent, but like there's

2181
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 1: enough uncertainty there. But with Chris Carson, we know he's

2182
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: gonna be the guy. Carlos Height is gone, and you know,

2183
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: I do like Rashad Penny, but I guess he had

2184
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 1: a minor procedure on his sergery groper knee, so I

2185
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 1: don't know if we can ever expect him to truly

2186
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 1: be one hundred percent healthy. So I'm less worried about

2187
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny as I am most seasons. But either way,

2188
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 1: Seattle can usually carry two fansy relevant running backs. I

2189
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 1: just think he's play at the end of this RB

2190
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:01,719
Speaker 1: two tier.

2191
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Chris Carr, the coach loves him and doesn't

2192
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 3: like Penny, who is like a front office pick anyway,

2193
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 3: So like, yeah, that's we talked about. Metcalf Top five

2194
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 3: wide receiver locketted wide receiver twenty two is interesting. I

2195
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 3: think I think he could beat that. You know, even

2196
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 3: with Metcalf being a top five receiver. Any thoughts on

2197
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 3: on Locket here.

2198
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:25,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do lock it as a best ball specific

2199
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 1: target season long, head to head, I'm a little bit

2200
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 1: hesitant because he's just so inconsistent week to week. So

2201
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 1: he finished in the top twenty four only forty four

2202
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 1: percent of the time last year, which is very low

2203
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 1: for wide receiver. Two and then he had a dud

2204
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 1: rate of twenty five percent. That's when he finishes outside

2205
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 1: of the top sixty, and that's very high for a

2206
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver too. Those are two very bad stats. Yeh,

2207
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 1: as far as consistent. So he's putting up a ton

2208
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 1: of points in a few weeks, and so for best ball,

2209
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: that's great. For season long had to head not so much.

2210
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 1: So I think it depends what league you're in if

2211
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 1: I'm targeting Lockett or not. And then and do we

2212
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: think Everett beats his tight end twenty EIGHTYP Yeah, I

2213
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 1: do like him because he's entering this offense already being

2214
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 1: familiar with new offense coordinator Shane Waldron. They're both coming

2215
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 1: from the Rams Jacob Hollister and Greg olsener Gunn, so

2216
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: you know he's competing with Will Disley. I'm pretty low

2217
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: on just the wide receiver three depth chart for the Seahawks.

2218
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,160
Speaker 1: I think Jeryl Everett could be sort of that wide

2219
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 1: receiver three, you know, playing the slot a bit more. So.

2220
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 1: I do think he has the upside to target at

2221
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 1: you said tight end twenty Yeah, he's that twenty Oh yeah, No,

2222
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: I think he definitely has an upside to target there. Yeah.

2223
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 3: I think just just based off of the fact that

2224
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 3: we have seen the Seahawks tight end at times when

2225
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,679
Speaker 3: when it's been like one guy, whether it's been Disney

2226
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 3: or whoever it's been, who is it, how Hollister and

2227
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 3: Who's why am I blanking? Who started the year really

2228
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 3: hot for them and got hurt Will Disley every year

2229
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 3: it was Disney?

2230
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 1: Right, okay?

2231
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, and then he gets hurt every yeah yeah.

2232
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 3: So like, yeah, we've seen that. It kind of worries

2233
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 3: me on one end because.

2234
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 1: This is still there.

2235
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 3: But if ever it is that guy, you know you

2236
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 3: have Russell Wilson at quarterback, what's our prop?

2237
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 1: Because I know it's Wilson for Seattle. Yeah, so Russell

2238
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 1: Wilson passing yards. So basically, do you think they'll let

2239
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 1: Russ Cook for all seventeen games? I have his projection

2240
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 1: at four three and fifty. I have it at four

2241
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: three and eighty. Yeah, so we're right there. Yeah, I'm not.

2242
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 3: Betting Russ is a guy. He's another guy. It's like

2243
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 3: I want to be on the over for him, like

2244
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like he's like I don't

2245
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 3: there's maybe he falls a little short of his protect

2246
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,799
Speaker 3: but Russ is almost never going to disappoint you in fantasy,

2247
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean, He'll have his he

2248
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 3: might frustrate you for a week or two, but like, overall,

2249
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 3: you have two very talented receivers. You have just a

2250
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 3: good situation there with Russ, and he's one of the

2251
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 3: best quarterbacks again of all time, you know, so yeah,

2252
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 3: give me the over here seventeenth game.

2253
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like his ADP of QB six feels like his floor, right,

2254
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 1: that's where he finished last year. He was really bad

2255
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. So you know he

2256
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 1: has QB one overall upside. If let's say Pie Carroll,

2257
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 1: let's Shane Waldron run his offense and doesn't get in

2258
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 1: the way, I think Russ Wilson has QB one overall upside.

2259
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, QB six feels like his floor, right, Yeah, like.

2260
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 3: He's and even if it's he finishes like QB seven

2261
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 3: or eight, Like he's gonna he's gonna win you some

2262
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 3: weeks in that Lovin is the best love them in

2263
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,599
Speaker 3: any format really, Like it's russ Man. He's gonna throw

2264
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 3: thirty plus touchdowns. You know he's gonna get it done.

2265
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:40,480
Speaker 3: Let's go to San Francisco. Uh here's an interesting situation.

2266
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 3: Uh Raheem Moster RB twenty six, ADP Sermon the rookie

2267
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 3: forty seven, Mitchell the rookie sixty.

2268
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 1: Four, Gallman eighty four. I mean, is it even this?

2269
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 3: Is there even that much of a disparity here between

2270
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 3: these between these four guys, Like.

2271
01:45:56,000 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I say this, I'm interested. I'm

2272
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 1: very interested in trying to figure out who the best

2273
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 1: running back is going to be from the forty nine ers.

2274
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:07,639
Speaker 1: And it seems like every year it's the cheapest option,

2275
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 1: you know, going back three years ago as Matt Brida,

2276
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 1: and then two years ago is Raheem Moser, last years

2277
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson. I think this year it's probably a bit

2278
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 1: more obvious. I do think Tray Sermon is the guy

2279
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 1: we want to target now. Granted, he's pretty expensive. You

2280
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 1: have to draft him, you know, running back thirty five.

2281
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes he goes as high as like running back thirty.

2282
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 1: It does feel expensive, but at that range you are

2283
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 1: just kind of taking high upside flyers anyway, and he

2284
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 1: does seem that guy where he might not start week one.

2285
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 1: I think Raheemosert will start week one, but we've seen

2286
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 1: in the past year Rhimosart can't handle a full workload.

2287
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: He tends to get hurt. So I think eventually we

2288
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,879
Speaker 1: will see Tray Sherman be the main back. And that's

2289
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 1: you know, talk about forty nine ers. That's a fancy

2290
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 1: gold mine to actually hit the starting running back in

2291
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 1: this offense because we're really we're investing in this Shanahan

2292
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 1: running scheme. So you know, I think they took Sermon

2293
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:03,080
Speaker 1: in round three not to back up. Mostly, I think

2294
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 1: they do intend to have him be the guy. So

2295
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm targeting pretty heavily at ADP right now. Yeah, I

2296
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 1: think I'm faying on of them. This is like this

2297
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:11,679
Speaker 1: is like when we're talking about it on a podcast.

2298
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm faying all of them, like like, I don't know,

2299
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 1: it's like last year.

2300
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 3: Everyone's like, you know, it was a Jamichael Hasty, is it,

2301
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 3: Derrick McKinnon is it?

2302
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't it was Jeff Wilson. Yeah, yeah, right,

2303
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:21,640
Speaker 1: It's like I don't know.

2304
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 3: But it's like even week to week there was this question,

2305
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 3: and so it's like, I'm not gonna pretend that, like

2306
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 3: I don't even know how the split is gonna go,

2307
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 3: you know, for the full year, even if you take

2308
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 3: out that weekly volatilty. But even in a given week,

2309
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 3: if I have sermon, am I gonna know when to start?

2310
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 3: I don't even want to go through that. I'm fading

2311
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 3: all of them unless we get like some real definitive

2312
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 3: you know, like okay, Sermons just killing it in camp,

2313
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 3: and I has won the starting job, and like moster

2314
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 3: is gonna go back to his like special teams role,

2315
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 3: you know.

2316
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 1: What I mean.

2317
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 3: Like I just can't it just I don't feel like

2318
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:52,520
Speaker 3: it's playing to my strengths predicted forty nine or backfields.

2319
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you there. It's it's pretty vultable week week.

2320
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 1: I think when you draft any of these guys, you're

2321
01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 1: expecting them to be on your bench for the first

2322
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,560
Speaker 1: few games. But remember last year, like even though it

2323
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 1: was Volda. We knew when to play Jerk McKinnon, We

2324
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 1: knew when to play Jeff Felson. No, we didn't. I

2325
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: think you're over remembering.

2326
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 2: We did not remember because it would be like it

2327
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 2: would be like Wilson.

2328
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 3: Wilson would come in, but he would have like one

2329
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 3: good week and then but like then it would be like,

2330
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 3: especially toward the end of the year, is like, is

2331
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 3: it Wilson? Is it McKinnon?

2332
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Is it hasty?

2333
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 3: Like there was there was like a legitimate and then

2334
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 3: most of it would like come back and it'd be like, well,

2335
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 3: is he gonna get the full workld or is it

2336
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 3: gonna be Wilson because he popped the week before. It

2337
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 3: wasn't until like Wilson was like literally the last guy

2338
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 3: standing that we were like, all right, now.

2339
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 1: I may be over remember, but I think trace does help.

2340
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 1: I got some clarity of this. I mean, I think

2341
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 1: will give us some of that clarity.

2342
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 3: Give me the odds for Wayne Gorman leading this team

2343
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 3: in fantasy production, and I'll take them.

2344
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 1: Not not because there's five running backs, this is so yeah, yeah,

2345
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 1: Wayne would be that guy historically that leads, right, this

2346
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:05,759
Speaker 1: guy go with that guy. So yeah, you can't ignore

2347
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:06,680
Speaker 1: Wayne Gollman.

2348
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:11,639
Speaker 3: Bade Brant and Iyuk and Deebo Samuel are twenty six.

2349
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 1: And thirty three.

2350
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 3: I mean it seems low considering their upside and their

2351
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 3: routes running this offense, especially with Kendrick Borne. Got any

2352
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:22,720
Speaker 3: thoughts on those guys? Is it is this kind of

2353
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 3: a quarterback situation?

2354
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it depends like when do you have

2355
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 1: Trei Lance starting or how many games you have Trailance starting?

2356
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:32,679
Speaker 1: How do you envision that offense with Trey Lance's quarterbacks?

2357
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 1: I think with Ayuk specifically, I think it's a bet

2358
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: on talent. I'm a bit worried that when Trey Lance's

2359
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:40,599
Speaker 1: quarterback it's going to be a little bit more run heavy,

2360
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:44,759
Speaker 1: So Ayuk I'm a little bit hesitant on. Whereas Deebo Samuel.

2361
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 1: I think he has a high four where you know

2362
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: he's involved in the game plan every week where they

2363
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:50,599
Speaker 1: try to get him the ball you know, at least

2364
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 1: a handful of times a game. So I'm a little

2365
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 1: bit uh you know, I favor Samuel at his ADP.

2366
01:49:58,040 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 1: But where are your thoughts on Ayuk? Because I have

2367
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 1: projected the wide receiver thirty right now. So and it again,

2368
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 1: it depends how many games you're projecting Trey Lance to start,

2369
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 1: which right now I have him at round twelve. So

2370
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 1: how's that kind of factoring into your you know, quarterback

2371
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:14,440
Speaker 1: and faber productions.

2372
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 3: I think I have him right around like the low twenties,

2373
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:23,600
Speaker 3: him and Samuel I think Lance. It's not changing for

2374
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 3: me too much because I mean, even though I thought

2375
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 3: they would take Matt Jones, I think Lance. I think

2376
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 3: Lance is pretty good, like I think. I don't think

2377
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 3: like cause they're gonna this is I've talked about this before.

2378
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 1: This offense is not like a normal offense.

2379
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 3: In terms of wide receivers and like how do you

2380
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 3: project them and match up this matchup that everything's kind

2381
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 3: of schemed out to these guys, and a lot of

2382
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 3: it is at the adder behind the line of scrimmage,

2383
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 3: are close to it, so it's not necessarily like a

2384
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 3: lot of volatility. It's just and Salah's gone, So it's like,

2385
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:52,760
Speaker 3: how good is the defense? I think that may matter

2386
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 3: more so I'm not like, I mean, we've already seen

2387
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 3: him throw like ten fifteen times a game sometimes with Garoppolo, right,

2388
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 3: So it isn't gonna get anyway always than that one Lance.

2389
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't think so. So yeah, but they

2390
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 1: have a ton of weapons and I you have his

2391
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, just his yeah stretch when George Kittle is

2392
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. So you know, when all of

2393
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 1: them are healthy, it'll be kind of like the running

2394
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 1: back situation right where you don't know which No, no, it.

2395
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 3: Will not be like the running back situation because I uke,

2396
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 3: Samuel and Kittle are the guys, like those are the

2397
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 3: three guys. Like in the running back it's like, oh,

2398
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 3: like are you Samuel and Kittle could all play like

2399
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 3: eighty like eighty to ninety to one hundred percent of

2400
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 3: the route. Like Kiddle won't cut he the tight end.

2401
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 3: You know, they usually get a few plays off, but

2402
01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 3: like those are gonna be out there. So it's just

2403
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 3: a matter of literal math with with the running backs,

2404
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 3: is like you have to project snapcounts, rap counts, carry

2405
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,679
Speaker 3: like that's it's not the same to me. I think

2406
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 3: if they're all healthy, they throw more because they have

2407
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 3: a damn good uh receiving cores. If they're not all healthy,

2408
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 3: they don't you know, whoever is not healthy? You know,

2409
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 3: it kind of Eavens out. So I'm I'm higher. I mean,

2410
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 3: this is a classic year to breakout spot for Ayuk.

2411
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 1: So I'm i'm I'm I'm willing to and hope.

2412
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 3: And you know, everyone if everyone, if Trey Lance is good,

2413
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 3: everyone says he is, it shouldn't be a problem.

2414
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 1: If Jimmy G's there, he can get him the ball too.

2415
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 3: I think they're in good hands. Like I think they

2416
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 3: might be underestimating his offense, right, and then well they

2417
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 3: have no depth that like wide receiver three. It's exactly

2418
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 3: maybe we'll.

2419
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 1: See him play, so I'll give you that the target

2420
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,799
Speaker 1: chair will be pretty concentrated. So again I'm not saying

2421
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: like fade these guys, but it's depending on like how

2422
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 1: you project them with Trey Lance, and I have him

2423
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 1: running the ball a bit more. So that's why I

2424
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:36,719
Speaker 1: wide receiver three. That's all. Yeah, No, it's fair.

2425
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 3: I just I'll probably I'd probably take them ahead of

2426
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 3: adp R at weast that because I I just think

2427
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 3: we're underestimating the offense. Kittle, I am with you, though,

2428
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 3: I think I'd rather have him at tight end three,

2429
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 3: just because of of Waller and how consistent he's been

2430
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:51,800
Speaker 3: in the fact that they have no wide receivers, whereas

2431
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 3: San Francisco actually does so uh like uh like like

2432
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 3: Kittle is third, He's going second in most drafts. But

2433
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,320
Speaker 3: let's go to the final prop San Francisco.

2434
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 1: So again, when will Trey Lance start? Will he start

2435
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 1: by week four? No? I think I think. I think

2436
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:15,760
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go.

2437
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 3: I'm going in the weeks six, I'm going in seven, seven,

2438
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 3: the seventh or eighth game. I think I think Jimmy G.

2439
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:24,599
Speaker 3: If you look at his past history, I think he's

2440
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 3: likely to get hurt.

2441
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 1: Do you think it'll be an injury replacement? You don't

2442
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:31,920
Speaker 1: think he'll like replace? I think I think I think they.

2443
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 1: I think I think they are comfortable with Jimmy G.

2444
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:35,959
Speaker 3: I think they are.

2445
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 1: Proactive with Wance as the same.

2446
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 3: Way Andy Reid was with Mahomes. Like you know what

2447
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:43,679
Speaker 3: I mean, It's like this guys can be really good,

2448
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 3: but we also have another quarterback who took us really far,

2449
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 3: and he's been what was he twenty three and five

2450
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 3: as a starter.

2451
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 1: Let's see what San Francisco.

2452
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 3: He's twenty two and eight in the regular season as

2453
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 3: a starter for San Francisco. You're not just benching that guy.

2454
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 3: But no, you know what I mean, Like even last

2455
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 3: year he was hurt, you know, so I still think

2456
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:03,400
Speaker 3: they believe in him. I don't think that's a lie.

2457
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 3: I just think that you saw the cheek. Everyone has

2458
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:08,880
Speaker 3: to follow the Chiefs model now or or like the

2459
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 3: bronc or like the Broncos slash Bucks model. If you're

2460
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 3: not getting like a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, it's

2461
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 3: like you you can't be.

2462
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 1: Satisfied with your quarterback unless he's like.

2463
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 3: A Patrick Mahomes. And how did the Chiefs get Mahomes?

2464
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 3: They were proactive, So I think that's what this move was.

2465
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 1: It could.

2466
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Jimmy G's never stayed healthy, so I think

2467
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 3: he'll make starts, but I don't think he'll just like

2468
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 3: win the job.

2469
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: I guess that is what I Oh, Okay, well they

2470
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 1: have Okay, so they're by is week six and then

2471
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: week seven they play at home on Senate Football against

2472
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 1: the Colts. So that'd be amazing if that's Trier.

2473
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's also a big spot to start him

2474
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 3: for the first time. So yeah, yeah, I mean West

2475
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 3: hurt then it's not gonna matter. But I would think

2476
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 3: that would be like a lot of pressure, So I

2477
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 3: would yeah, I would wait.

2478
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 1: I would love if that's his first start. Oh of course,

2479
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 1: yeah no, that's that's gonna be.

2480
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 3: That should be a good game. But uh yeah no,

2481
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 3: I'm going to wait. I'll see how that pans out,

2482
01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 3: because you know, first round quarterbacks usually do make you know,

2483
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 3: eight to ten starts in their first year, and given

2484
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 3: Jimmyd's injury history, that could very well happen.

2485
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 1: But where would how far would he have to fall

2486
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 1: to draft him? I'm saying, like, if he's there at

2487
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 1: QB twenty two, I'm taking him. That's about where the

2488
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 1: line is for me. Are you taking? It depends on

2489
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 1: in bestball?

2490
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:19,560
Speaker 3: Sure, in in redraft, I mean, if he's not the

2491
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 3: Week one starter, you know, and I have to it

2492
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,440
Speaker 3: depends on my roster because if I'm carrying two quarterbacks,

2493
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 3: maybe because and I only have to start one, Maybe because.

2494
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 1: I can just straight up stash him.

2495
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 3: But I just it would be hard to find a

2496
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 3: roster spot for a guy who's not the starter in

2497
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 3: redraft period, you know what I mean.

2498
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 1: It's just it's just a hard thing to do.

2499
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:42,200
Speaker 3: Whereas bastball, you're kind of betting on what's going to

2500
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 3: play out over the course of the season, and you

2501
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 3: only have one chance.

2502
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 1: To kind of set your lineup, which is the draft.

2503
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, more of a yeah best ball if you

2504
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 1: take him, you kind of have to take a third

2505
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 1: quarterback because of that risk. So yeah, but I think

2506
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 1: he does have like low end QB one upside here,

2507
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 1: So absolutely think he is worth the rest. But like

2508
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 1: you said, it depends on your draft. Like there's a

2509
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 1: wide range of outcomes here. Just know that going into

2510
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 1: your draft.

2511
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he can give you that Jay when Hurts production,

2512
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 3: But is it gonna be for four weeks like Hurts

2513
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 3: really was, or is it gonna be like, you know,

2514
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:15,840
Speaker 3: like like half a season like Lamar a couple of

2515
01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 3: years ago, Like you know what I mean, there's all

2516
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 3: the different outcomes are kind of baked in, but I

2517
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 3: have no doubt that when he's on the field, he'll

2518
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 3: be a top ten quarterback.

2519
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, yeah.

2520
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:27,440
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